It's infuriating that Suleiman is stubbornly trying to sit on two chairs at once. Wow! Hurrem's conversation with Walide and Hatije is the first really unpredictable and unexpected plot twist of all time. I even felt sorry for her, for once the actress played it wonderfully. Maybe there is something good about Hurrem..
Why has Hatice changed so much towards Hurrem? I seemed to treat her well, even befriended her, protected her in front of her mother. And now she's being deliberately thrown off balance by this princess. What did Hurrem expect when she gave Valida an ultimatum? It's stupid... Suleiman is behaving incomprehensibly: both ours and yours.
I thought for a moment that Hatija and Walida were ashamed! but no. Hurrem is not an angel, of course, but the relationship has improved. And it's just low and petty to take away the rooms from Hurrem, in the old chambers there is one main room and a second room, and there is a whole crowd of them: Hurrem herself, 4 children, 3 maids. Valide decided to punish Hurrem, for example, but her grandchildren, whom she claims to love, for what? Hatice has gone completely berserk, it is interesting to observe the changes in her, but it is unpleasant.
Because Hurrem's accusations are justified in principle, she did nothing against Valide, and offending Hatice is not her main goal. And they really take it out
Ugh! Hatice became even more disgusted. I don't understand what Suleiman is trying to achieve. It feels like he's trolling both of them)))) Is he waiting for Isabella to pounce on him or what?
I was interested in one point - why did Nigar suddenly start wearing dresses of such a specific style - with a high "throat" and a completely closed neckline area. No one else wears them except her. Did you just want to highlight a character or did the actress have any problems? As I predicted, very soon most of the commentators wanted to "cut" Princess Isabella out of the plot. As Sadiq used to be. Does the line of squabbles and unfunny squabbles of eunuchs seem more interesting? It turned out awkwardly - when Hurrem asked Ibrahim for an alliance, did she already have a plan to stop poisoning him if it was not too late? Or did she find it not so important? An unfavorable alliance, it's good that he refused. The redhead decided to play the "victim card" again - oh, I'm so good, I love everyone in the harem (with some exceptions), but you all treat me badly. Either you change your attitude or I'm on the warpath. One might think that from the very first days she did not dream of ruling the harem, which inevitably led to a big conflict. But no, it turns out that others forced her)
@KaterinaVoyler: eunuchs have always made me laugh, it was much more fun and interesting with them than with lenten Sadika and her pretentious but implausible line. It infuriates that both her story and Isabella's story are not just fictional, but absurd and soapy, who invented it at all, this could never have happened in principle. It infuriates how the sultan behaves with them, given his tirades about love, about feelings, about loyalty, about justice...So yes, I choose any asu without looking instead of the next passion))
@nens8_8y: I agree with something. Indeed, Isabella's story is simply impossible, Sadika's story is unlikely (in the sense that she could get into the harem, but she could communicate with the outside world so freely, exchange messages online and, moreover, make an attempt - no). But I've come to terms with them, it's necessary to supplement the plot of the series with something, otherwise there will be nothing to show - the scenes of military battles come out frankly poorly, they try to insert a real historical line, but they serve it in a very simplified form, most likely so as not to strain viewers who are not familiar with the story. And the truth is not always pretty. Anyway, you need to come up with something, we decided to involve beautiful girls))) As for the Sultan's behavior, I fully understand it here. No matter what tirades about love he utters, he remains a Muslim man, most likely, he does not see anything reprehensible in his behavior) And Suleiman's passions are more plausible - I never believed in his "vanilla" love for Hurrem (or rather, that it extended to physiological needs). And I frankly don't like the humor that is used in the eunuchs' skirmishes. But I tolerate it as much as I can. They definitely won't be cut out of the plot. Although it would be nice... Gul-aga and Niluffer's faces are asking for bricks)))
@KaterinaVoyler: Well, I do not know, I just have cognitive dissonance. Of course, I'm not a Muslim man or even a Muslim woman, so I'm really trying to understand logic, thinking, but I can't. On the one hand, you must agree, all absolutely love stories are shown in a typically Western spirit, monogamous, the only eternal love and nothing else. No male character says like, yes, I love you, but tomorrow I'll call Svetka, the usual thing. And not a single female character treats this calmly, as a natural part of life (well, at least some people should treat it that way, shouldn't they?), everyone is babbling and booing just like us, Christian women of Western culture. And it turns out that at the level of men's actions, the orders seem to be Muslim, but at the level of words, feelings, how it all is presented, how everyone treats it - not at all Muslim. It seems to me that some of this is lies and fiction.
Hatice has become unrealistically vile, just like her psychopathic husband. Moreover, both have changed a lot, especially Hatice. Hurrem is of course very brave, indeed, she is not a Mahidevran, sometimes she is very admired. And she was pleased with her conversation with Walide and Hatice, she said everything, well done!
This is the twist - Hurrem's conversation with Valide. Actually, I'm thrilled. Hurrem did everything very competently and put everything on the shelves. It's just a pity that a person accustomed to power does not know how to share it. It's hard to realize that someone will overrule her power and rights in due time.
It seems to me that Mahidevran has become more beautiful. I stopped worrying about hurrem and that's it, I blossomed. It seems to me that this is done on purpose. Hurrem began to look bad, because she is constantly being gnawed by the fact that the sultan is having fun with others. That's the answer, she became vile as a frog
@Lika_aka_Dianka: And it seems to me that Mahidevran has recently stopped living for the sake of revenge of Hurrem, but just rofs over her whenever an opportunity arises)
Hatice likes to remind hurrem so much that she is just a concubine, but she just got out of the right womb of the sultan's tree and does not represent anything. Hurrem punches everything for herself, but Hatice can't do anything except suffer
Hatice has become very nasty, I'm just shocked at what she's like this season. I liked it so much in the first season, so sweet and kind here... Bitch and bitch
Hurrem, bravo. Such a powerful conversation and everything is on the case, well done. And in general, this season she has grown very much, she has become much more competent to behave, except for the moments when she says something to Suleiman against Ibrahim. And so, I almost always began to behave with dignity
Hatice is just infuriated by the tin. At first, her whining was infuriating, but now she looks arrogant. What benefits she wants to get. At first, Hurrem was defending, but what happened now? I didn't cross the road
I didn't bury it, I buried it. in general, indeed, and who, if not Hurrem, should then manage the harem? No one respects Mahidevran anymore, and Hurrem, who is essentially a slave, is called a mistress. and no one cares about the princess at all. no one considers her more than a temporary toy
Well, she gave herself a Hurrem... This day was definitely not Valide's day: at first sonny rushed over and did not want to kiss his hand, then Hurrem with such a piercing speech. However, the ultimatum at the end is really too much. The whole speech was addressed to conscience, and in the end the threat, well... this snake on the princess's bed is not a sight for the faint of heart)
The heading "what you see cannot be seen": these hats worn by employees of the mosque or sultan (sorry, I don't know who it is specifically) are very similar to the top of vanilla ice cream in a cone😂
For a moment, I thought that valide really thought about the fact that Hurrem would be better able to hold the future harem in his hands than Mahi. Only, as far as I understand, who will be the next valide depends on whom Sulik chooses as his successor. But Valide's alliance would definitely not be superfluous. Shtosh.. She thinks Hurrem will lose. I don't want to upset her)
Nigar, perhaps, will pay extra to Hurrem herself so that she poisons Ibrahim more often. It's a pleasure to treat. Ah, Syumbul, Syumbul, I fell in love, God forbid, God forbid. Oh, how Hurrem broke their tete-a-tete, the princess found herself in a very unenviable position. And Suleiman was simply amazed at how powerful Hurrem was, and even though he was the ruler, the head of the state, his neck was Hurrem, wherever he turned, he would keep the way there. Hurrem's speech to Valide sent a chill through me. She said everything so accurately that she couldn't turn it down or add it up.
- Hurrem, what is everyone taking out? Going somewhere, huh? - We're going to hell, maybe we'll go together?
God, Mahidevran is pathetic, her only function in the plot now is to grin nastily when something goes wrong with Hurrem. They should have given her some kind of fine line, or something. I am generally silent about Gulfem, who appears in the frame once every five years:(
Hatice is slowly going crazy and soaked in hatred. It's a pity for her, but she chose this path herself and it won't lead her to anything good... Such a beautiful and romantic couple was, but Hatice's impulsivity, tantrums and Ibrahim's pride ruined everything.
Hatice is purely a MOTH at the palace, but ambitions are above the roof. I used to worry a lot about her and Ibrahim as a couple, but now I have nothing but disgust for them. The power felt cleanly " and not otherwise.
Wow! Hurrem's conversation with Walide and Hatije is the first really unpredictable and unexpected plot twist of all time. I even felt sorry for her, for once the actress played it wonderfully. Maybe there is something good about Hurrem..
What did Hurrem expect when she gave Valida an ultimatum? It's stupid...
Suleiman is behaving incomprehensibly: both ours and yours.
I immediately remembered the meme: "I will not communicate with you until you become romantic ..."
I don't understand what Suleiman is trying to achieve. It feels like he's trolling both of them)))) Is he waiting for Isabella to pounce on him or what?
As I predicted, very soon most of the commentators wanted to "cut" Princess Isabella out of the plot. As Sadiq used to be. Does the line of squabbles and unfunny squabbles of eunuchs seem more interesting?
It turned out awkwardly - when Hurrem asked Ibrahim for an alliance, did she already have a plan to stop poisoning him if it was not too late? Or did she find it not so important? An unfavorable alliance, it's good that he refused.
The redhead decided to play the "victim card" again - oh, I'm so good, I love everyone in the harem (with some exceptions), but you all treat me badly. Either you change your attitude or I'm on the warpath. One might think that from the very first days she did not dream of ruling the harem, which inevitably led to a big conflict. But no, it turns out that others forced her)
And I frankly don't like the humor that is used in the eunuchs' skirmishes. But I tolerate it as much as I can. They definitely won't be cut out of the plot. Although it would be nice... Gul-aga and Niluffer's faces are asking for bricks)))
When did Hatice become such a bitch?
this snake on the princess's bed is not a sight for the faint of heart)
First Gulnihal, now Nilufer?
Shtosh..
She thinks Hurrem will lose. I don't want to upset her)
Ah, Syumbul, Syumbul, I fell in love, God forbid, God forbid.
Oh, how Hurrem broke their tete-a-tete, the princess found herself in a very unenviable position. And Suleiman was simply amazed at how powerful Hurrem was, and even though he was the ruler, the head of the state, his neck was Hurrem, wherever he turned, he would keep the way there.
Hurrem's speech to Valide sent a chill through me. She said everything so accurately that she couldn't turn it down or add it up.
- Hurrem, what is everyone taking out? Going somewhere, huh?
- We're going to hell, maybe we'll go together?
Such a beautiful and romantic couple was, but Hatice's impulsivity, tantrums and Ibrahim's pride ruined everything.
I used to worry a lot about her and Ibrahim as a couple, but now I have nothing but disgust for them. The power felt cleanly " and not otherwise.