Serebryakov, feeding the ducks, amused me. And in the restaurant scene, when communicating with my son, he's also good at being annoyed. But it's especially interesting to hear how Russian actors speak English. I hope that foreign viewers don't curl their ears from their speeches, as we do when Americans try to spout in Russian in Western TV series :)
And so crime and crime, in the standard "good" for British minicabs on similar subjects.
@Shirlok: Come on, at least I remember his Dr. Richter from the last one, the official Russian adaptation of House. He's never been mean, bad, drunk, or stupid there. As a House Substitute, of course, the series is crap, but there are the least questions about Serebryakov. At least that's how it was for the first two episodes, I didn't watch any more.
@Ouks: Not at all... It's not that big. If you compare it with some kind of "Secretary of State", where all the Russians still look like North Caucasian mountaineers and almost with balalaika, everything is not so bad here.
As always, bad Russians are necessarily associated with crime, and the only good boy among them was brought up in purely British traditions and is ashamed of his roots.
@vk166233: In fact, this is not Russophobia, it is leftism. Think of at least one TV series in recent years about good entrepreneurs, no matter Jews, Russians, or Americans. Even where people understand what they're shooting about, it still goes through the lip, as if everyone is to blame in advance. And where they don't understand, well, there's something like a saber. Heroin, copying the exterior, and other nonsense. Well, at least they don't hesitate to push dirty commercial propaganda in plain text.
@Ytzin: So my campaign headquarters is here, haven't they told you? And the homeland is where they feed, so it's no surprise that I'm here where you are.
Tell me, please, do you start banging your blackberry on the car radio with a squeal of "propaganda!" when they play Lennon's song "Imagine"?
@Chile: so they have a beach and a beach there. it's impossible to approach the beach here-either super expensive clubs or scary from someone lying next to you))) although it's scary in clubs, it's just different))))
It's quite an emotional series, I really liked it. Russian Russians are happy to be played by Russians, with a model of behavior unique to them. Well, it's true that some actors have a crooked Russian, but alas, what can you do?
Russian Russian and British actors working together, where Russians speak pure Russian (well, almost all of them), left an ambivalent impression from the pilot: on the one hand, it's incredibly cool to see GOOD Russian and GOOD British actors working together. Beautiful picture, beautiful James Norton, colorful Serebryakov and Shukshina...but on the other hand, it smells like cranberries. Oh, this Uncle Boris (and why are all Russians called Boris only in foreign films??). I agree that if it hadn't been for the moment of the murder, the pilot would have been a perfect three. In general, I'll keep looking, you can give the series a couple of episodes to rock up.
@distant_star: you mentioned the name Boris, I remembered that in the book "The Goldfinch" by the American writer Donna Tartt, one of the characters was Russian, and his name was Boris too)
@NatashaNeta: and I also remembered Boris Razor from the movie "Big Jackpot") By the way, he also lived in London and traded weapons. It's amazing why foreigners have both Russian and Boris at once. In fact, it's not such a common name))
@Filadora: by the way, I do not recall that there were Ivans in foreign films)) They probably don't know that this is one of the most common names in our country. I watched John Wick just yesterday, and the son of a Russian mobster was named Josef. It seems they just use the names of the presidents))
@Darula: Ahahah, and now I actually remember Jason Bourne's Russian passport. :D Well, at least there is no such thing in MacMafia! https://dic.academic.ru/pictures/wiki/files/66/Bourne-Identity-5.jpg
@distant_star: Boris is a Jewish name. It fits perfectly here. But then the older brother should have been named Venya or Lenya, for example, and not Dima.
It was like watching one of the Russian TV series on a Russian channel, but they translated it into English and added subs. Even all this is kind of ridiculous)) Russian Russian, however, is a pity that there is no way to convey it, however, as well as to translate English into Russian, for some reason, English immediately seems to everyone to be a poor language.. I probably won't go any further than the first episode. I don't like TV series about Russians, I don't even know what I expected from this series.
Kazakh actors talked about filming in the TV series McMafia in London
Kazakh actors Yerden Telemisov, Murat Mukashev and Nurken Tumatayev starred in the Anglo-American television series McMafia. According to Telemisov, no one organized the auditions in Kazakhstan. The actors got into this project after Yerden Telemisov received a message from violinist Marat Bisengaliev, whose daughter, Arukhan Galieva, was looking for actors of Asian appearance to shoot in the series. "The casting director of the new project asked Aruhan for help to find three characters. They needed brutal men. Marat gave me the contacts, and I contacted them. They asked me to act as an agent and asked me to find two men. Initially, they were looking for Uzbeks. I turned to my friends. And he sent my and Murat's video tests. Then they came to my Youtube channel, started watching videos, and saw Nurken. They liked him, and we sent him a video test too, and he passed," Telemisov said. "When Yerden told me that we were going to London to shoot, I didn't believe him. I didn't believe it until I found myself at the British Embassy. When they started filling out all the documents, I thought, "Am I really going?" - Nurken Tumatayev shared.
The actors said that the Kazakhstanis stayed in London for 26 days, they had one shooting day a week. It took them a total of five days to shoot. "On the first day, we looked brutal: with a beard, we made evil faces. The director looked at us strangely. Then the makeup artist was invited, and she shaved off our beards. The director then explained: yes, you are the assassins, the killers in the series, but it shouldn't be visible from the very beginning. You have to look like businessmen," he said. The actor also talked about his role in the TV series.
"Our role in the series is very significant, the director talked about it. Our appearance in the series is the starting point of changing the main character. After our appearance, the main character will not be the same. We may not have been in the frame for so long, but try to get into this frame as extras. Two of us made do with one episode. And someone, I won't say who, appears in the third episode," Telemisov said.
McMafia is an Anglo-American television series co-produced by the BBC and AMC television companies. Russian actors Maria Shukshina and Alexey Serebryakov also starred in the series. On January 1, 2018, the eighth episode began airing. Kazakh actors played representatives of the Kazakh mafia.
Well, by the way, not particularly cranberry. Apparently, the British have seen enough of the diverse international crime in general and the fugitive Russian oligarchs in particular:) And the script as a whole does not cause rejection, especially the moments with the attempts are good, and everything looks convincing from the psychology so far.
It's actually very cranberry-like. It's just that Russians can't understand it for obvious reasons. All these cliches are not cliches in real life at all. I sound like someone who lives in London.
@desyonka: I think you've got something mixed up. Cranberries are false stereotypes, you first say that they are cranberries, and then you say that they are not cliches...
"McMafia" is very similar to the TV series "The Night Manager" starring Tom Hiddleston. He is very serious, unhurried (read slow, realistic, boring). Everything was done with high quality, but for a niche audience.
@Gourry_aka_pm: Maybe it is, and I'm not arguing with that. But from the look of gg, it seems that he doesn't really like him. And he says it just because it's the right thing to say, because that's his uncle. Purely my opinion)
Does GG not speak Russian with his parents on principle? Even if he grew up in a private boarding school, even if he was educated in the United States, even if he doesn't want to have anything to do with the dark affairs of the family, I still can't believe that he would speak English with his parents alone! (And Russians don't say "I love you" to each other on the phone.)
I always tell my parents that I love them..I don't understand what everyone is attacking... Initially, the theme and genre of the series was crime..It's just that this time it's not about English killers and illegal fighting, but about the Russian mafia..the topic is interesting to many..Just like the Yakuza... kozanostra... etc.. And here's the cliche..do Russians like caviar?..maybe they just point to the prosperity of these families?..Do Russians drink vodka? That's how Americans drink whiskey..I don't see anything mega-urgent here)) I agree that the murder scene forced me not to turn off the series in the middle..because it was getting boring..It's just a fairy tale!! Russian Russians speak Russian..Of course there is a polyline..but at least there's not that much of it..I liked the pilot..and intrigued..something new..)I'll keep looking..it will be clear..)
Is the uncle actually framing the nephew, depriving him of a business raised from scratch to force him to wash money, the uncle is successfully killed, and the nephew decides to take revenge by laundering money? It's kind of unreliable.
I watched it until the 16th minute and couldn't go any further there are films and TV series in which it is absolutely impossible to believe what is happening and this is the case , the story does not fascinate at all
@Andru1488: But today's events taking place in the country, from the People's Commissariat of Foreign Affairs to Rybka, fully prove that the screenwriters wrote with immersion in the topic. ;) In Russia, it's always the case that the most idiotic, insanely absurd scenario of events is likely to turn out to be true. The country of Pelevin, Sorokin, and now Guy Ricci. And always Kafka. Funny, sad, but true.
@wert: yes, I'm not talking about the fact that such a thing could not happen in principle, but I don't even know how to explain it, I'll try, there are movies / TV shows that you forget that you're looking at the monitor screen and just watching the story that fascinates you , and there are those when you watch and in your head you do not leave the thought that it's just the movie and all this is fake and just tinsel. So, for me, Makmafia is the second case. I didn't see any real people, I saw actors acting out the script.
It's a good, smart, multifaceted story. There is also a family in which adult children sometimes feel embarrassed for their parents, but sincerely love them, take care and protect them, and parents love and protect children, although they sometimes behave like teenagers, other relatives whom you do not choose, but whose actions can change your life. There is also a conflict of cultures with an arrogant and hypocritical rejection of the realities of the world around them, when decency is righteous /phew, as if all their current material well-being has been inflated by the holy Spirit)) yeah. / and fearfully distances himself from anything that might be considered inappropriate. There is transparency of the boundaries between legal and criminal business, and a reassessment of the priority of socially accepted norms in the event of a threat to the lives of loved ones. It was staged and shot well, the locations were well chosen, the characters and events were fairly reliable, and the invited Russian performers added realism. However, minor ethno-religious inconsistencies are noticeable, some circumstances and dates do not add up, the FSB officers look frankly vampiric (however, perhaps the CIA officers in "Born" or "MI6SHNIKI" in "Bond" are shown to be the same vampiric). Overall, there were significantly fewer cranberries on the Russian theme than usual, although it was necessary, which is a bit annoying, since the series, despite some stereotyping, clearly claims authenticity. It turned out to be confidently above average, perhaps a little delayed at times. It is quite possible to look at it, at least as an illustration of English stereotypes, phobias and ideas about foreigners and foreign life.
@Nikquest this is how Serebryakov plays a Russian for whom English is not his native language. If he had played an American with that pronunciation, it would have been funny.
It's not a bad start, it's too early to say anything, but the first episode is on a good level and keeps you in suspense. The good news is that the creators try to avoid Russian-related cliches, although, of course, they don't always succeed, but in general, it's not bad. At least there are still no running around here and no "toe heads" :D
Russian russians talked about cranberries and non-cranberries, about a British man who looked nothing like a Russian, about a bad and a good story, about Serebryakov as a typical Russian drunk, about Boris, who was not very Russian, and even about Shukshina... and not a single comment about Merab Ninidze! The only one of the "Russian" actors here who plays at the level of cool British/American actors. Even the British "Lyosha", in my opinion, is not up to it. I'm sorry, if you watch this series, it's just for him. By the way, despite some rather stereotypical moments like black caviar, which constantly appears at all events, and a crooked Russian accent, I think this is a great progress. Russian Russians are played by Russians who speak pure Russian (except Boris, but let's let him go, he's like half a Jew), the inscriptions make sense, and not just made of a set of letters, kalinka-malinka or a wild thieves' chanson is not playing on the background, matryoshka dolls are not on every corner... For that alone, it's worth saying thank you to the creators of the series. The plot is still a bit boring, but I really hope that the series will accelerate further.
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76And so crime and crime, in the standard "good" for British minicabs on similar subjects.
Well, at least they don't hesitate to push dirty commercial propaganda in plain text.
Breaking Bad. He raised production from scratch, promoted the brand!
Tell me, please, do you start banging your blackberry on the car radio with a squeal of "propaganda!" when they play Lennon's song "Imagine"?
"What else should I do in this stupid park?"
In general, the subtitles were lame throughout the series. They do not convey all the beauty and richness of the Russian language!
Norton doesn't look like the son of Shukshina and Serebryakov at all. Who does he have such a nose and such a chin for? The gardener or the neighbor?
And Uncle Boris was killed for nothing. I liked him the most. So much so that even his crooked Russian was willing to put up with it.
I agree that if it hadn't been for the moment of the murder, the pilot would have been a perfect three.
In general, I'll keep looking, you can give the series a couple of episodes to rock up.
It's amazing why foreigners have both Russian and Boris at once. In fact, it's not such a common name))
I watched John Wick just yesterday, and the son of a Russian mobster was named Josef. It seems they just use the names of the presidents))
https://dic.academic.ru/pictures/wiki/files/66/Bourne-Identity-5.jpg
Russian Russian, however, is a pity that there is no way to convey it, however, as well as to translate English into Russian, for some reason, English immediately seems to everyone to be a poor language..
I probably won't go any further than the first episode. I don't like TV series about Russians, I don't even know what I expected from this series.
Kazakh actors Yerden Telemisov, Murat Mukashev and Nurken Tumatayev starred in the Anglo-American television series McMafia.
According to Telemisov, no one organized the auditions in Kazakhstan. The actors got into this project after Yerden Telemisov received a message from violinist Marat Bisengaliev, whose daughter, Arukhan Galieva, was looking for actors of Asian appearance to shoot in the series.
"The casting director of the new project asked Aruhan for help to find three characters. They needed brutal men. Marat gave me the contacts, and I contacted them. They asked me to act as an agent and asked me to find two men. Initially, they were looking for Uzbeks. I turned to my friends. And he sent my and Murat's video tests. Then they came to my Youtube channel, started watching videos, and saw Nurken. They liked him, and we sent him a video test too, and he passed," Telemisov said.
"When Yerden told me that we were going to London to shoot, I didn't believe him. I didn't believe it until I found myself at the British Embassy. When they started filling out all the documents, I thought, "Am I really going?" - Nurken Tumatayev shared.
The actors said that the Kazakhstanis stayed in London for 26 days, they had one shooting day a week. It took them a total of five days to shoot.
"On the first day, we looked brutal: with a beard, we made evil faces. The director looked at us strangely. Then the makeup artist was invited, and she shaved off our beards. The director then explained: yes, you are the assassins, the killers in the series, but it shouldn't be visible from the very beginning. You have to look like businessmen," he said.
The actor also talked about his role in the TV series.
McMafia is an Anglo-American television series co-produced by the BBC and AMC television companies. Russian actors Maria Shukshina and Alexey Serebryakov also starred in the series. On January 1, 2018, the eighth episode began airing. Kazakh actors played representatives of the Kazakh mafia.
But gg always says he loves him very much, yeah.
But from the look of gg, it seems that he doesn't really like him. And he says it just because it's the right thing to say, because that's his uncle. Purely my opinion)
, it's a tin can
there are films and TV series in which it is absolutely impossible to believe what is happening and this is the case
, the story does not fascinate at all
In Russia, it's always the case that the most idiotic, insanely absurd scenario of events is likely to turn out to be true. The country of Pelevin, Sorokin, and now Guy Ricci. And always Kafka.
Funny, sad, but true.
it, I'll try, there are movies / TV shows that you forget that you're looking at the monitor screen and just watching the story that fascinates you
, and there are those when you watch and in your head you do not leave the thought that it's just the movie and all this is fake and just tinsel. So, for me, Makmafia is the second case.
I didn't see any real people, I saw actors acting out the script.
It was staged and shot well, the locations were well chosen, the characters and events were fairly reliable, and the invited Russian performers added realism. However, minor ethno-religious inconsistencies are noticeable, some circumstances and dates do not add up, the FSB officers look frankly vampiric (however, perhaps the CIA officers in "Born" or "MI6SHNIKI" in "Bond" are shown to be the same vampiric). Overall, there were significantly fewer cranberries on the Russian theme than usual, although it was necessary, which is a bit annoying, since the series, despite some stereotyping, clearly claims authenticity.
It turned out to be confidently above average, perhaps a little delayed at times. It is quite possible to look at it, at least as an illustration of English stereotypes, phobias and ideas about foreigners and foreign life.
and not a single comment about Merab Ninidze! The only one of the "Russian" actors here who plays at the level of cool British/American actors. Even the British "Lyosha", in my opinion, is not up to it. I'm sorry, if you watch this series, it's just for him.
By the way, despite some rather stereotypical moments like black caviar, which constantly appears at all events, and a crooked Russian accent, I think this is a great progress. Russian Russians are played by Russians who speak pure Russian (except Boris, but let's let him go, he's like half a Jew), the inscriptions make sense, and not just made of a set of letters, kalinka-malinka or a wild thieves' chanson is not playing on the background, matryoshka dolls are not on every corner... For that alone, it's worth saying thank you to the creators of the series.
The plot is still a bit boring, but I really hope that the series will accelerate further.