The series clearly shows the difference between the new anime and the old ones, where they pay attention not only to the quality of the picture, but also to the spiritual component. I am glad that such good episodes are being filmed nowadays.
They lived on an inhabited island for three years, but for some reason they settled in huts. For so much time, it was possible to study every millimeter of the island and grab not only a vegetable garden and a wooden boat, but also a house with first aid kits, beds and other things. And yes, the guys are dying of pneumonia there, and the only doctors went to the big island.
@Lanfir777: in general, yes, this whole arch and the backstory as a whole are surprisingly poorly thought out. It's not even particularly clear, in fact, why they didn't build a real ship in so much time, if they tried to sail from the island on a raft. They could have done it in so much time, even if none of them were interested in shipbuilding, then this is not the theory of relativity, they could have rediscovered everything. At the same time, some of the descendants were able to sail away, but modern people pumped by science were not. Well, the oddity with the population of the village has been mentioned more than once – for 3700 years the planet could be repopulated, and there are still two dozen people. (In fact, everything is clear – they could not sail away, because if they got to computers and other equipment, the anime would not work).
It's a stretch to justify all the inconsistency, saying that over the years the stories told have turned into fairy tales, something like a new holy book. But why they didn't explore the island is a mystery
I didn't understand where the graves of the founders came from, if they died in South America, and it's kind of like in Japan. And in general, a touching story, of course humanity would not be lucky if some men flew.
@Slimov: well, seriously, it is generally believed that even before the fall, Adam and Eve had many children. Because they were born in God's grace, then all sorts of things like genetic diseases did not apply to them. It already started later, when they were kicked out. And in principle, it is not forbidden to marry cousins even now, Kamon. What kind of harsh incest?
@Langolier: seriously about Adam and Eve, seriously? : ) It's not forbidden or allowed, it doesn't matter, it doesn't cancel the fact of incest, does it?
@Slimov: well, there is such a version. Of course, there are no details in the canon) Yes, it seems to make a huge difference. It wasn't me who used the epithet "harsh". From a physiological point of view, the risks of having children in a marriage between cousins are in the area of static error. So in this case, the "fact of incest" has more to do with the cultural norm, which means that the law is an important marker here.
@Langolier: You can build any theories about this pair of fictional characters by itself, but the word "seriously" in this context is clearly not the topic. So here just the law contradicts moral norms, severe incest is more about the fact that a brother is obliged to spire a sister without having any choice, and if many boys are born, the situation will be so-so.
I didn't quite fully understand where they landed and why they had to go to the mainland, and not to the nearest island, but oh well! But the series is very soulful!
@Gordey: it was necessary to go to the island, because it is closest to the fallen Soyuz capsule, and the place where the soyuz landed was explained by problems during descent. But nevertheless, they flew to find out about the reasons and eventually found out nothing. I hope it's not Bondarchuk's gun.
I shuddered... In general, if you think about it, the whole story of the petrification of billions of people and a few survivors is incredibly sad. Inspires a kind of despair
And in general, watching all this, I remembered the Discovery program and it still seemed to be played by davinci There a group of scientists were sent to some backwoods and they made all sorts of devices from improvised materials.... If anyone remembers the name, please tell me!!!
That is, these four children left in the end gave birth to the whole village?..... Okay, there are so many inconsistencies and illogicalities that I don't even want to try to sort it out, it was all just to bring to the Senk anyway. By the standards of anime, Senku is still that megamind, only it and the Gene are still interesting to watch.
Such nonsense. Well, how can you stay living in the forest when you have all the infrastructure, books, etc. at hand. How can you pass information from generation to generation that they don't know how to do shit, only fish. Yes, they are not geniuses, but Kamon, the first thing was to swim to the mainland. And he is not particularly far away, once Senku has reached this village for one or two. How could one abandon all the information gathered over centuries and the infrastructure built and descend to the level of primates
1) Why didn't the survivors even try to destroy the stone shell, in theory, the first thoughts (immediately after the basic needs) should be about this?
2) It is strange that Byakuya and Senku are not related by blood, given the specific coloring of their hair))
Everything is not so bad with logic, as some commentators say here. 1. They did not sail away from the island, because it was very dangerous. Two tried - it didn't work out. To go to the rest is to allow a serious threat to the existence of humanity, because there are only two adult, capable characters left - father Senka and the singer. 2. Building a ship is very difficult. Even from the very beginning there are six of them, without proper tools and skills. After all, these are just astronauts. Not scientists, not engineers, not artisans, but just people with good physical shape. Maybe there was some tech guy there, but you need to understand that specialization in spacecraft does not make you a shipbuilder. 3. There are six of them, and here it is important just to survive, arrange life and continue the generation. These things take a lot of time. It is quite reasonable that they made a bet on this, and not on trying to get to the monuments of a dead civilization. Laptops, tweeters, electric scooters would be useless for them.
The only thing I can't understand is that the astronauts landed on an island in the Pacific Ocean (as I understood it). Senko and his friends were petrified in Japan. But when they woke up, it turned out that they were all on one island. Either I didn't notice something, or I need to come up with excuses that the relief of the earth has changed so much, or statues of people from Japan somehow washed up to this island. But this is already some kind of pulling the owl on the globe.
@tersit: 2 Modern cosmonauts are just scientists and engineers mostly, so it's a strange saying about "just cosmonauts". 3 the essence of the claims was just that it is much easier to arrange life on the basis of old achievements, but for some reason the guys scored on it and decided to settle down almost at the level of cavemen. Why did the same laptops suddenly become useless if they could continue to be used? I've been watching it for a long time, maybe I don't remember any details.
@Slimov: 2. Astronauts are basically upgraded military pilots. I have already said that there can be a maximum of an engineer, but with a narrow specialization. Scientists do not need to fly into space. They process all the data on earth. 3. And will they serve the power plants in the sixth? Well, good luck to them. They don't even have the qualifications to operate alternative energy sources. It's not easy to connect two wires together. As I have already said, the risk accompanying attempts to reach civilization is unjustified. They acted rationally
@tersit: 2 reading the education of the first astronauts from the ISS The first master of geology, the second master of Environmental Engineering... 3 It is enough to maintain a generator for such a number of people, power plants would probably work in automatic mode for some time.
@Slimov: 2. Their education may be different and often unrelated to space. There are doctors of Philosophy and masters of Mathematical Sciences. Only here the crew is usually formed from a commander (warriors with a rank), a pilot and a mechanic / engineer. Senku's father was a professor. It means that his scientific degree was not lower than the candidate. Only scientists are not as omnipotent as gg in this anime. A dissertation on nuclear physics, for example, does not make you a master of everything in the world. 3. Where will they get fuel for the generator? Stocks will quickly fall into disrepair. They will sit with the light for a couple of decades (if not less) and that's it. In general, everything that they would not have found there would not have existed for long and would have disappeared after one or two generations, because there would have been no reproduction. The only thing that (in my opinion) was worth sailing for was technical and scientific literature. But, of course, not on a raft when you have the last two or four adults on the whole Earth.
@tersit: that is, we finally reached a different education, otherwise before that the astronauts were just sports guys. I did not say that they are omnipotent, I opposed "just astronauts" that these are some of the smartest people on the planet and their education can be of different directions. But what does the Doctor of Philosophy have to do with it again is unclear to me. 3. There is a lot of fuel at abandoned gas stations. At least high-quality houses would have stood for hundreds of years. Technical literature and even such a trifle as medicines.
@Slimov: 2. I absolutely disagree here. First of all, cosmonauts are sports guys, and then geologists and ecologists. Having a different education that is not related to professional activity does not solve anything. And a master's degree does not make you one of the smartest people on Earth ... 3. Neither fuel, nor even medicines, will last even one generation. And there is no point in going behind the houses, because there are optimal conditions on the island.
In general, you just ignore most of my arguments and answer only what is convenient for you to parry. This is some kind of demagoguery, not a discussion.
@tersit: I agree, I proved that astronauts are scientists and engineers, but they are still primarily athletes, there is clearly no point in arguing. Well, what can I do, apparently they all fly into space to do sports there in zero gravity.
Idk how it worked considering potential adverse effects of incest. But for people mentioning the numbers, it all makes sense, we just witnessed how 33% of the adult population died from pneumonia. I am sure there were other diseases too.
Jerzy Zhulavsky's version called "On the Silver Planet" seems to me more realistic.
(In fact, everything is clear – they could not sail away, because if they got to computers and other equipment, the anime would not work).
But why they didn't explore the island is a mystery
And in general, a touching story, of course humanity would not be lucky if some men flew.
Wives of sons still do not cancel severe incest
And in principle, it is not forbidden to marry cousins even now, Kamon. What kind of harsh incest?
It's not forbidden or allowed, it doesn't matter, it doesn't cancel the fact of incest, does it?
Yes, it seems to make a huge difference. It wasn't me who used the epithet "harsh". From a physiological point of view, the risks of having children in a marriage between cousins are in the area of static error. So in this case, the "fact of incest" has more to do with the cultural norm, which means that the law is an important marker here.
So here just the law contradicts moral norms, severe incest is more about the fact that a brother is obliged to spire a sister without having any choice, and if many boys are born, the situation will be so-so.
There a group of scientists were sent to some backwoods and they made all sorts of devices from improvised materials....
If anyone remembers the name, please tell me!!!
By the standards of anime, Senku is still that megamind, only it and the Gene are still interesting to watch.
1) Why didn't the survivors even try to destroy the stone shell, in theory, the first thoughts (immediately after the basic needs) should be about this?
2) It is strange that Byakuya and Senku are not related by blood, given the specific coloring of their hair))
1. They did not sail away from the island, because it was very dangerous. Two tried - it didn't work out. To go to the rest is to allow a serious threat to the existence of humanity, because there are only two adult, capable characters left - father Senka and the singer.
2. Building a ship is very difficult. Even from the very beginning there are six of them, without proper tools and skills. After all, these are just astronauts. Not scientists, not engineers, not artisans, but just people with good physical shape. Maybe there was some tech guy there, but you need to understand that specialization in spacecraft does not make you a shipbuilder.
3. There are six of them, and here it is important just to survive, arrange life and continue the generation. These things take a lot of time. It is quite reasonable that they made a bet on this, and not on trying to get to the monuments of a dead civilization. Laptops, tweeters, electric scooters would be useless for them.
The only thing I can't understand is that the astronauts landed on an island in the Pacific Ocean (as I understood it). Senko and his friends were petrified in Japan. But when they woke up, it turned out that they were all on one island. Either I didn't notice something, or I need to come up with excuses that the relief of the earth has changed so much, or statues of people from Japan somehow washed up to this island. But this is already some kind of pulling the owl on the globe.
3 the essence of the claims was just that it is much easier to arrange life on the basis of old achievements, but for some reason the guys scored on it and decided to settle down almost at the level of cavemen.
Why did the same laptops suddenly become useless if they could continue to be used? I've been watching it for a long time, maybe I don't remember any details.
3. And will they serve the power plants in the sixth? Well, good luck to them. They don't even have the qualifications to operate alternative energy sources. It's not easy to connect two wires together. As I have already said, the risk accompanying attempts to reach civilization is unjustified. They acted rationally
The first master of geology, the second master of Environmental Engineering...
3 It is enough to maintain a generator for such a number of people, power plants would probably work in automatic mode for some time.
3. Where will they get fuel for the generator? Stocks will quickly fall into disrepair. They will sit with the light for a couple of decades (if not less) and that's it. In general, everything that they would not have found there would not have existed for long and would have disappeared after one or two generations, because there would have been no reproduction. The only thing that (in my opinion) was worth sailing for was technical and scientific literature. But, of course, not on a raft when you have the last two or four adults on the whole Earth.
I did not say that they are omnipotent, I opposed "just astronauts" that these are some of the smartest people on the planet and their education can be of different directions.
But what does the Doctor of Philosophy have to do with it again is unclear to me.
3. There is a lot of fuel at abandoned gas stations.
At least high-quality houses would have stood for hundreds of years.
Technical literature and even such a trifle as medicines.
3. Neither fuel, nor even medicines, will last even one generation. And there is no point in going behind the houses, because there are optimal conditions on the island.
In general, you just ignore most of my arguments and answer only what is convenient for you to parry. This is some kind of demagoguery, not a discussion.
Well, what can I do, apparently they all fly into space to do sports there in zero gravity.