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Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich — s01e01 — Hunting Grounds

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Duration: 56 min.
Released: 27.05.202027.05.2020 15:00
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s01e01 - Hunting Grounds
s01e02 - Follow the Money
s01e03 - The Island
s01e04 - Finding Their Voice

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vs40
29 May 2020, 22:14 #
First of all, this documentary should be viewed by parents who, for some reason, have not yet explained to the children that it is not worth communicating with dubious uncles, as well as chasing fast money.

For adults and adequate people, this seems logical and understandable, but children, teenagers, and many close-minded adults need to be clearly explained so that their ignorance, misunderstanding, naivety and stupidity do not ruin their lives.

Well, Epstein made full use of this very naivety and desire for easy money for his perverted needs.

The girls' stories were almost identical: "I was invited to massage an unknown man in his cottage for $200." What could have gone wrong, right?

Well, okay, when he had it rolling with 14-16-year-old girls, who still have the wind in their heads, and even talking doesn't always help, but two cases from the documentary surprised me the most.

A special award "the best older sister" deserves a girl who initially really was only a masseuse for Epstein, but at some point he invited her to the island and began to molest and took advantage of her.
After that, she was invited back to the island... and she agreed. It was invited, called and invited, and not threatened or taken away by force.
Further even cooler, she agrees to go to a concert in Africa, where she meets celebrities and describes it herself "as the best day of my life", in the future she is still invited to various events, where she is used again.
After a few YEARS of regular events, she is offered to take her younger 17-year-old sister with her for dinner... and as she herself said "and it never occurred to me that this was maybe a bad idea".
That is! She has been voluntarily riding around the world for several years, where they have her all over, and when these same people invite her younger sister to dinner, it didn't seem like a bad idea to her???
WHAT'S IN THIS PERSON'S HEAD????
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vs40
29 May 2020, 22:15 #
There is a limit on the number of characters, so the continuation is a second message...

Or the naivety of a girl who was 22 at the time of meeting Epstein.
She moved to New York, went to a club, where she met a girl who, by the way, said that she knew a guy who was ready to help her with further education, let's go to the cinema / cafe with him tomorrow. Well, OK, we went, and the next day she receives an invitation to fly to his private island on his own private plane. Hmmm... Well, let's fly... On the plane, a man she met only yesterday began to have hardcore sex (hardcore sex, as she herself said) one of the girls in front of everyone, with everyone present pretending that everything was fine, admiring the view through the porthole or pretending to sleep. Well ok... Since no one said anything, then that's probably the way it should be... At the Virgin Islands airport, she did not try to return or otherwise show her unwillingness to participate in all this and went on to a private island, where she was suddenly fucked in the same way. And then she was repeatedly invited to other events, where, suddenly, they had her again.
One more time! They did not threaten or forcibly take me somewhere, but invited me to another event.

I am by no means defending Epstein, on the contrary, the documentary clearly shows that from the very beginning he built his "career" on lies and deception, constantly manipulating people for his financial gain and perverted needs, but most of these girls could have avoided all this if they had turned on at least for a second the head.
Damn, this is not a maniac in the park, against whom a defenseless girl has no chance to fight back, because almost all the stories revolve around the fact that they want easy money, and after they were used, it seemed to be disgusting to them, but $ 200 is $ 200, if they call, then I'll go again and I'll bring my sister and her friends, and I'll get another $200 for each one.
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vs40
vs40
29 May 2020, 22:25 #
And the last part...

And what is even more remarkable, in all the stories where the girls ran away and locked themselves in another room, no one chased them, the door was not kicked down or raped, Epstein pretended that nothing had happened, like "it didn't work out."
And for example, that girl who, under the guise of obtaining a certificate, went to another country and did not return, was not touched at all, well, she drove and left.

Only the artist and her sister, who went to the police because of harassment, began to receive some kind of threats on the phone. And to be honest, only these sisters really arouse sympathy, because they were really lured by deception under the pretext of normal work / practice /study, and not "massage uncle for $ 200", and when they began to be molested, they did not play a selfish interest, they ran out, locked themselves in another room, and later they went to the police, instead of including the fool "I'm not a prostitute, but $ 200 is $200 and I was used in general."

And all their photos are worth special mention, where they are happy in the interiors of cottages and beaches surrounded by celebrities, in modern realities these would be typical instadives with the tag #fabulously fucked.

I repeat once again, I'm not defending Epstein, it was a lying and perverted animal, but almost all the girls' stories developed according to the same scenario, where they showed a selfish interest and for $ 200 they were ready not only for a massage, but also for more, did not attempt to refuse and even lured their own sisters into this hell and friends for the sake of an extra $ 200.

Well, corruption and hypocrisy of the authorities / celebrities is generally some kind of standard, for some reason you don't expect anything else :(

And given his capabilities and connections, one can only wonder if he's really dead or just hanging out on another private island.
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alena_lvn
alena_lvn
06 Jun 2020, 04:19 #
There is a simple linear relationship here. A victim of violence or abuse commits stupidity, a mistake: goes to an unknown uncle to get a massage, sends his sister to the rapist, puts on provocative clothes, etc. She becomes ashamed of her actions, she closes herself, is silent, wants to forget what happened to her.
And if she tells someone, friends, the police, they tell her: that's a fool, where she went, it's her own fault, didn't your mother teach you that you can't take sweets from strangers?
And as long as there are such smart people who, sitting on the couch in front of the TV, condemn the actions of victims, there will be people like Epstein, because victims will be afraid to tell the truth because of universal condemnation. And if there is no truth expressed, there is no reason, no case for punishing rapists and pedophiles.
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Baturchi
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30 May 2020, 03:43 #
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Dianna-N
Dianna-N
01 Jun 2020, 16:45 #
there is an emphasis on the fact that all these girls were originally from unfavorable families: their parents were not up to them / they were beaten-raped /etc
., respectively, yes, no one explained anything
to them and those to whom they explained something went to the police
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Dianna-N
Dianna-N
01 Jun 2020, 16:46 #
dysfunctional families*
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Baturchi
Baturchi
30 May 2020, 03:46 #
Ещё немного в шоке с того, что маленькая девочка просто тупо могла заманивать других на массаж к деду😑😑😑😑 «Мне самой не понравилось, но я решила водить других» .WTF?!?!
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ladymickey
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31 May 2020, 18:16 #
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Nahaha
Nahaha
30 May 2020, 18:54 #
It's just terrible, the hair on my head is standing up
Not a man, but a monster 😦😦 All parents must watch it!
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annukhalova
annukhalova
01 Jun 2020, 05:10 #
The main thing is to write "of course I'm not defending Epstein, but ...". In the documentary, even adult 70-80-year-old uncles say that Epstein was able to be convincing, aroused confidence, almost hypnotized. What can we say about teenage girls with unstable psyche, problems in life, inability to stand up for themselves, ashamed of themselves after what happened.
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Divldn
Divldn
01 Jun 2020, 21:02 #
Комментарии по типу «им что не объясняли?», «что они из себя строят каких-то жертв» и тд.
Очень радостно читать с той стороны,что в вашей жизни никогда не было насилия над вами и вы просто не можете их реально понять.
Возможно не было таких жизненных обстоятельств ,как родители наркоманы и тд.
Это очень хорошо и искренне за вас рада.
Но есть и другая жизнь,другая сторона медали.
По моему тут все предельно понятно рассказывается,девочки были из неблагополучного района,семьи и тем самым показывая им роскошь у любой такой девочки загорелись глаза.
Не даром здесь говорит адвокат,который собирал ему самых лучших «защитников» что он умел «уговорить» всех.
И не нужно ставить себя на место девочек,хотя бы потому что каждый человек действует в стрессовых ситуациях по разному.
Не понимаю абсолютно осуждения в сторону девочек,девушек -страх,отчаяние,стыд делает с людьми страшные вещи.
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whaleteafox
whaleteafox
04 Jun 2020, 14:29 #
люди, которые пишут, что девочки сами должны были думать, прежде чем идти к богатому взрослому дядьке со связями, видимо, не представляют, как 1) устроена детская психика и 2) насколько искусно нарциссы умеют манипулировать людьми.

ну и привычное смещение вины с насильника на жертву; приятно жить в мире, где ведёшь себя «правильно», и тогда ничего плохого не случится. к сожалению, так бывает не всегда.

тем более жертвами были дети, которые в силу возраста и опыта не могут отстоять границы и дать отпор взрослому человеку, хотя даже сформировавшиеся люди не всегда на это способны.
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Smool
Smool
04 Jun 2020, 17:57 #
При просмотре серий ловила себя на мысли что хотелось орать в некоторых девочек, что: Смотри! Вот звоночек! Ты сама сказала что тебе стремно и не нравится! Сваливай!
И как только я ловила эту мысль приходилось резко себя одергивать. Они в большинстве своем мелкие, из не самых хороших семей и отношение к богатым людям совсем другое. Весь ужас ситуации заключается в том что не достаточно знать что злой дядя тебя может изнасиловать. Не бывает черного и белого. Особенно в жизни 16 летки в начале 2000-х, когда богатые и знаменитые это где-то далеко и другая жизнь (а еще во всех таблоидах постоянно рассказывают что кто-то с кем-то переспал и стал звездой) у тебя нет денег и ты живешь в какой-то заднице, а тут появляется очень богатый мужик который делает с тобой какие-то стремные вещи, но обещает тебе светлое будущее и уже дает бабки реальные.

Оправдывать или шеймить кого-то бесполезно, особенно после. Учитывая что некоторые жертвы пытались бороться 15 лет, и только когда это стало модно и приемлемо их вдруг услышали. Более чем уверена что среди тех кто был мелким когда с ним это все случилось были те кого все устраивало и нравилось. Хорошо это или плохо - сейчас не важно.

По хорошему эти серии надо воспринять как почву на подумать как объяснять разницу между богатым принцем из сказки и насильником который ведет задушевные беседы, обещает отправить тебя учиться и показать мир, при этом не убив надежду на светлое будущее и человечество, но и не вырастить милого цветочка.

Это тяжело...
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Body_Speaks
Body_Speaks
29 Mar 2021, 12:45 #
Напомнило неверленд про Джексона
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Sabi-Vasabi
Sabi-Vasabi
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15 Dec 2021, 05:06 #
Очень удивительно слышать такие рассказы от девочек которым 16 лет, как я знаю в Америки есть даже специальные уроки по поводу того как вести себя в подобных ситуациях. И это не важно хорошая семья у тебя или нет! Либо ты реально слушаешь и матаешь это себе на ус либо когда к тебе в постель лезит мужик старше тебя на много и начинает трогать тебя просто встань и скажи простите но мне это не надо и сваливай от туда!!!! Это мое личное мнение. Я не оправдываю поступки Эпштейна но вариант уйти был от туда. Как я знаю он не кого не убивал.
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