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Re: Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu — s02e11 — The Taste of Death

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Duration: 25 min.
Released: 16.09.202016.09.2020 16:30
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2 season
s02e11
s02e07 - Friend
s02e08 - The Value of Life
s02e09 - Love Love Love Love Love Love You
s02e10 - I Know Hell
s02e11 - The Taste of Death
s02e12 - The Witches' Tea Party
s02e13 - The Sounds That Make You Want to Cry
s02e14 - STRAIGHT BET
s02e15 - Otto Suwen / A Reason to Believe

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ZeroOne_01
ZeroOne_01
16 Sep 2020, 21:27 #
I knew that Roswal would be the most adequate. Finally, there is someone who understands more or less what is happening around.
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NNYU
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16 Sep 2020, 23:04 #
@ZeroOne_01: it's so strange to hear "Roswal", having got used to "Roswar"
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ZeroOne_01
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17 Sep 2020, 21:35 #
@NNYU: I'm watching with an English sub, so the translation is free
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rradn
rradn
17 Sep 2020, 00:33 #
@ZeroOne_01:
"Adequate", to put it mildly, is not quite the right word... "Over-the-top", sorry for the jargon, - it can be.
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NNYU
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16 Sep 2020, 22:56 #
maji koweee~~
what's going on? The arch has dragged on for so long that I'm already nervous.
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daizydaria
daizydaria
16 Sep 2020, 23:04 #
Mood: it is clear that nothing is clear
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aanatskiy
aanatskiy
16 Sep 2020, 23:07 #
It's vile and creepy
I hope Subaru, contrary to Roswal's words, will continue to try to save everyone
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driveshaft
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16 Sep 2020, 23:57 #
I already had tears in my eyes because of Beatrice's suffering. Damn witches, they doomed the world to 400 years of suffering. And after all, it was such a good start, I was already hoping, now Subaru will solve everything, and here is another unknown attack. Holy shit, what a damn place.

Then I thought that Satella possessed Emilia, but it turned out that she just went cuckoo, and in her madness she became too similar to the Witch of envy. And then Roswal, the calculating son of a bitch. Well, at least he deserved to taste the damn rabbits.

But the most shocking scene, of course, is I don't like your eyes. I shuddered.

How does Subaru solve all this in two episodes? There is a whole sea of problems that need to be solved simultaneously, taking into account the behavior of a dozen creatures. He definitely needs help.
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ARTOG
ARTOG
17 Sep 2020, 12:56 #
@driveshaft: considering that initially it was a 24-episode season and it was simply divided into two parts due to the pandemic, it may not be solved in two episodes
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Lanfir777
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18 Sep 2020, 12:31 #
@driveshaft: there is a suspicion that Subaru will also go and fixate on Emilia once again, well, actually it will be decided only for her sake, and then somehow by chance Rem will save, I don't know, maybe he will drag the rabbits with him and they will devour the Hunter for guts forever.
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driveshaft
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18 Sep 2020, 23:21 #
@Lanfir777: It won't work. Rabbits go for magic. If they go to the village, then this is the end of the village.
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rradn
rradn
17 Sep 2020, 00:30 #
1. I have never felt such thick and black DESPAIR from any episode in all two seasons. No matter what you do, no matter how you try, there's no chance. There are more enemies than it seemed, key events happen earlier than I thought, the reaction of the heroes is not what I expected every time, and in fact there are no allies at all. I must admit, even here, in real life, my hands have already dropped - a completely exhausting piece of work.
How will Subaru save everyone? I can't imagine that this is even possible, even in an ideal theory. He will probably have to make the most difficult choice in his life and sacrifice someone.

2. The most terrifying scene is Emilia going crazy; moreover, she only went crazy... in a couple of days? At first I thought that it was Satella who took her form, but no - it's just that the man lost his mind in a terrible way.
The post-title scene -- The Doki-Doki Literary Club sends greetings; there are still Vietnamese flashbacks from these "subtractions" of the screen.

3. Beatrice is not just a lump in her throat, but pieces of glass in her throat. My heart aches so much for the poor.
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driveshaft
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17 Sep 2020, 22:50 #
@rradn: How is it that there are no allies? And Otto, and the inhabitants, and Petra, and Ram, and the grandmothers are clones, and the animal maid, and Beatrice? Plus, you can still recruit Garfil and Roswal, albeit temporarily. Subaru's main thing is to properly manage resources. Clones can deal with rabbits, but since this tactic has not yet been tested, it is not known if it will work. Beatrice can be ambushed, but there is a problem that Subaru does not have complete information, it is not known who the employer is (Roswal, lol), why the killer did not die from Beako's magic and where the small-town is at the time of the attack on the mansion. There remains a third problem with the arrival of the Satellite, but it is not clear what it depends on.
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rradn
rradn
18 Sep 2020, 03:26 #
@driveshaft:
I exaggerated a bit, of course, for the sake of effect. But if you think about it... Otto and Petra are nice and wonderful, but weak; the residents are just a crowd, overcome with fear that they turned away from Emilia because of the usual snowfall; Ram is infinitely loyal to Rozval, and Rozval is faithful only to himself; Garfil is an uncontrollable psychopath, and his sister still seems to be playing some kind of game; The clone grandmothers actually obey Echidna (who, even dead, can physically interact with the world of the living), and Beatrice longs to die - such a kamikaze ally.

All of them can and should be united in order to defeat a common enemy (which in itself is a feat that requires almost impossible management skills), but it will clearly not be like fighting shoulder to shoulder with good friends; rather, "I tolerate you as long as you are the enemy of my enemy." Finally, it is worth noting that if the problem with rabbits at least has a theoretical solution, then how to defeat two assassins, which is an order of magnitude stronger than the Subaru group, and what to do with the Satellite, which ultimatum destroys all living things, is not clear at all.

I'm incredibly excited.
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Ozu_sensei
Ozu_sensei
17 Sep 2020, 03:02 #
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РитаЛунева
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24 Jun 2023, 18:11 #
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-Damons__blood-
17 Sep 2020, 05:06 #
Okay, so Roosevelt's motives are the fulfillment of his dreams. The question remains, does he really care about everyone (Ram, for example) or is he just sure that Subaru will save everyone?
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lammuit
lammuit
17 Sep 2020, 15:12 #
Rather, he is confident in his writing
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M73568
M73568
18 Sep 2020, 19:56 #
@holyonegolf: It's the same as Beatrice's. Well, in any case, the kmk doesn't give him any more hints, otherwise he wouldn't have kicked the Subaru for so long.
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romanista
romanista
17 Sep 2020, 07:22 #
As I said in the comments to the first episode of this new season, in the future we will see a completely different Roswal. And so it turned out. But it turned out that this egoist does not care about anyone, he only wants to fulfill his dream, for which he will use Subaru's gift to return after death, which he guessed.
He hid everyone in a Shelter, and it seems that all this time he was directing what was happening around Subaru from afar, using a book in which, unlike Beatrice's copy, everything is in place.
With each episode, it gets steeper and steeper, only now it's not at all clear how Subaru will get out of all this.
One thing is clear, he will have almost nothing in time for the two remaining episodes, and in order to finally figure everything out, we will have to wait for the second part of the season next year.
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driveshaft
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17 Sep 2020, 22:52 #
@romanista: Well, he did not fully guess, because he thought that Subaru was transported by the power of thought or something, and the received hints remained in this lost world.
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nurkhansmail
nurkhansmail
17 Sep 2020, 16:59 #
Damn, after this anime, it's just depressing, I hope everything will be resolved
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lorienncrow
lorienncrow
17 Sep 2020, 23:59 #
Okay, Google, how many more times will Subaru have to die to get to a happy ending?
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Dimixond
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18 Sep 2020, 07:08 #
Roswal confirmed my thoughts that subaru is being transported to alternate realities rather than rolling back the same world
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Krerm
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24 Sep 2020, 07:29 #
@dimixonx: I think Roswal meant that if he dies now, then Roswal from the past will have no memory and "personality" of the current one, and as a result, he will be like a different person. After all, the current version will die.
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Mr_Knight
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18 Sep 2020, 08:38 #
I have no words, I've been so fucked up since this episode. Even the first season was not so shocking, but here the emotion is on the emotions. Beato's death, Garfiel crying over the Frame, a gnawed Subaru and Emilia completely off the rails...

This is the toughest branch Subaru has ever been in so far, and I have no idea how he's going to get out of it.

In total we have:
1) The sanctuary does not let anyone out. Otherwise, it would be possible to simply move into the manor and repel the attack.
2) As I expected, Roswal is acting solely in his own interests. And as I have not read the novel, I have no idea what these goals are. As I understand it, he is associated with the Witch of Envy, and does not disdain to get his hands dirty. Although I don't rule out that he didn't care, because it seems he knows about Subaru's ability. "Well, I killed the extras, you'll just reset it anyway."
3) Garfield still needs to be persuaded not to climb, otherwise the game is over.
4) Emilia is going off the rails.
5) The Great Rabbit. I don't even know if Roswal can win in his current state? There is no one else to hope for, Garfiel and Ram will be torn apart.
6) Beato wants to commit Roskomnadzor. I punched my face with the palm of my hand when Subaru completely forgot Roswal's advice for the SECOND TIME and stood stupidly silent, listening to her tantrum. Tell me that you are "that person"! Say, "Roswal said to ask a question"! Not that it had much effect on anything in this routine, but oh my God.
7) In general, the attack on the estate does not seem to be repulsed. Subaru pulled away from the very beginning of the loop, and still everyone died. They tried to escape, tried to fight, and were defeated both times.
8) Absolutely random intervention by Satella, caused by, uh, I do not know what. Jealousy? I didn't understand at all why she suddenly appeared.

It all looks like a stalemate. Subaru needs to be in two places at the same time, and time is working against him. It's incredibly interesting what happens next.
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driveshaft
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18 Sep 2020, 23:24 #
@Inferno2015: The Sanctuary does not release only half-breeds.

You can board up the doors to the estate or instruct someone to close them, then the killer will not break into the library.

Roswal will definitely not be able to defeat the rabbit, because each individual must be killed at the same time.
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Mr_Knight
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19 Sep 2020, 22:13 #
@driveshaft: now I would like to scare two cool assassin magicians with an army of monsters with boarded-up doors...
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driveshaft
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19 Sep 2020, 23:52 #
@Inferno2015: Допустим, в особняке сотня дверей, пока они открывают на втором этаже, закрываем на первом.
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phantasm
phantasm
30 Oct 2020, 01:56 #
@driveshaft: Перебить сначала всех ваших закрывателей и нет проблем)
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driveshaft
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30 Oct 2020, 02:28 #
@phantasm: Надо сперва заметить, что их закрывают. А это сложно, если сама занята их открытием.
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Nocturne
Nocturne
05 Feb 2022, 01:09 #
@Mr_Knight: о, я вижу мой самодельный игнор-лист даёт свои плоды. Пока пересматривал режиссёрку первого сезона успел заигнорить 3х тупых комментаторов, и уже во второй раз вижу ответ на комментарий которого нет)
Судя из контекста выше находится предположение "заколотить все двери"? XD Я даже не знаю уместно ли смеяться в это случае или стоит пожалеть человека...
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saynotoid
saynotoid
21 Sep 2020, 16:21 #
@Inferno2015: ну скажи он, что "тот человек", судя по ее "монологу-истерике", это должно означать, что субару готов "поставить ее на первое место и т.д.", но он ведь не готов - эмилия и все дела... или фраза-ключ совсем для другого?
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M73568
M73568
22 Sep 2020, 03:07 #
@saynotoid: Сейчас не готов. Но он и Рем не был готов ставить рядом с Эмилией, но теперь ставит. Дайте ему время и он таки наберёт себе гарем ;) Ну я так думаю.
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Shikisen_Hishune
Shikisen_Hishune
25 Jan 2021, 21:04 #
Черт возьми, это точно одна из самых безжалостных серий в сериале, пи**ец. Чувствую, я так сама скоро с ума сойду :D Стекло на стекле, идеальная иллюстрация б е з ы с х о д н о с т и.
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Nocturne
Nocturne
05 Feb 2022, 01:10 #
@Shikisen_Hishune: тебя не смогут свести с ума если ты уже :]
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murmurramu
murmurramu
29 Jan 2021, 03:04 #
беспросветица какая, жесть.
а сцена после титров вообще хоррор натуральный, ещё и с элементом плёнки.
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FringeMania
FringeMania
02 Jun 2021, 23:32 #
Жесть какая-то...
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pepsnap
pepsnap
05 Jun 2021, 01:27 #
Вообще жестко-криповая серия
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РитаЛунева
РитаЛунева
24 Jun 2023, 18:12 #
Главный вопрос: как у Субару ещё не поехала крыша? Ну реально? Он ещё молодцом держится😅

И я немного запуталась в событиях, честно говоря, слишком много всего и нихера непонятно :)

*а вообще бедный Субару, столько боли пипец, это офигеть как трудно пережить столько смертей, так ещё и таких жестоких и больных
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