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Pam & Tommy — s01e08 — Seattle

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Duration: 51 min.
Released: 09.03.202209.03.2022 20:00
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1 season
s01e08
s01e01 - Drilling and Pounding
s01e02 - I Love You, Tommy
s01e03 - Jane Fonda
s01e04 - The Master Beta
s01e05 - Uncle Jim and Aunt Susie in Duluth
s01e06 - Pamela in Wonderland
s01e07 - Destroyer of Worlds
s01e08 - Seattle

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AndrewJudas
AndrewJudas
09 Mar 2022, 16:36 # Show original
It's a pity that this was the last episode.
The series came out great.
I captured it from the first episode and it was interesting to watch the development of the story to the end.
Most of all, I'm sorry for Pam, (although, everyone is doing well in this whole scandal ...)
I'd rather now see a Netflix documentary about Pamela.
vs40
vs40
09 Mar 2022, 19:36 # Show original
Of course, we did not have such a media scandal, or it passed me by, but even when they loaded pieces of this video and individual frames through a modem, threw them over the IR port and discussed this case, then everyone perceived it exactly as "porn with Pamela Anderson", no one had any doubt that it was a deliberate "drain" for promotion (no one knew the words HYPE at that time), because Pam's certain reputation developed by itself, if the star's fame consisted in the covers of Playboy and in demonstratively shaking his, ahem, talents on the Malibu beach.

If it really was a drain without her permission, then of course she was repeatedly fucked, first by the drain itself and underground distribution, and then by official sale, and now by this series, which was also filmed without her consent, but as we already know from the series, this story is already public domain and everyone can do with she will do whatever she wants, even if it is outright psychological terror for a person who did not agree to it.

In this regard, the creators of the series are no better than the antagonists of the series, who do not care about the person.

But best of all, the series shows how much the world has changed during this time.
Now you won't surprise anyone with such a drain, even if we are talking about a star who had not shone in Playboy before. On the same massive drain of intimate photos / videos of celebrities from iCloud, everyone interested jerked off and forgot, well, photos are hanging on the Internet, no one cares, because what they previously dared to print only in adult magazines, now ordinary photos in all social networks.And the topic of online porn has become a mass phenomenon, and not as taboo as it used to be.

And the Streisand Effect can also be renamed the Pam and Tommy Effect, because they tried to remove something from circulation and remove it from the Internet, running into the opposite effect, before it became mainstream :D
aestera
aestera
10 Mar 2022, 07:19 # Show original
@vs40: Why are the creators of the series no better than the antagonists? After all, with this series, on the contrary, they restore Pamela's reputation by telling people how the video ended up online and so on.
vs40
vs40
10 Mar 2022, 16:08 # Show original
@aestera: Did she ask for it? Once again, someone profited from the story without her consent, trashing details that were a nightmare for her.

The investigative article on the basis of which the series was filmed was published as early as 2014. Also, by the way, without her consent, i.e. her reputation has already been forcibly restored once.

Now there is already an active generation on the network that did not catch this video at all, but let's remind the whole world once again about the video, which has become a nightmare for a person, but which the vast majority have already forgotten.
At the same time, even more people around the world have learned about this video than before, because almost everyone now has access to the Internet, and hype topics are spreading much more actively and on a larger scale than before.

Among the young colleagues there are those who found out about the video after the series. Before that, Pam had only been heard of remotely and was associated only with the rescuers of Malibu, who were also not really watched, they knew her more from references to the rescuers of Malibu from other TV series and films.

So I repeat. If it was really a drain, without her consent, and not a deliberate drain for PR, which has been unwinding over and over again for several decades, then the creators are no better than those who originally leaked the video, they stupidly need a HYPE topic on which they can cash in, and no one asked them for another forced restoration of their reputation and I did not give my consent to this event.
AnnaVeshkurtseva
AnnaVeshkurtseva
19 Mar 2022, 23:10 # Show original
It seems to me that one of the tasks of the series (and they, kmk, coped with it) is to show this terror from the data drain, the importance of consent, how the drain differs from porn and in general how reputation affects the internal state, business and relationships (we also see how this situation cracks the relationship of Pam and Tommy). Yes, this is an artistic interpretation of an old scandal, but I see in this a reflection from the 2020s about the attitude to personal data and consent (which is now superactual, there's a plus sign that now you won't surprise anyone with plums of stars), and not another hype.
id373972
id373972
24 Feb 18:06 # Show original
@vs40: why do you write over and over again IF [it was a drain]? Do you still have any doubts after watching it?
id11921653
id11921653
09 Mar 2022, 22:03 # Show original
This look at the end gives us a hint that she will fall into this river again. We already know that, but we beat it beautifully)
And it's a pity that in reality Rand Gauthier has no regrets. And he never realized that he had done something wrong.
likaeleva
likaeleva
02 Jul 2022, 18:15 # Show original
Well, at the end of the credits it was said that in 2008 they got back together, but not for long
Sofi_Coffee16
Sofi_Coffee16
09 Mar 2022, 23:31 # Show original
It was great acting and makeup work, the most gorgeous! But it became morally difficult for me at the end, I even caught myself feeling ashamed and guilty in this episode, looking at it as if I had climbed into someone else's bed or I was an accomplice to this drain (I have 300 TV series on my account, but this is the first time with me.
rin_rin
rin_rin
PRO
09 Mar 2022, 23:58 # Show original
It turned out to be a great series, as for me everything here was perfect - the acting, the plot, the music🔥👍

I am very sorry that Pamela had to go through such an experience, a very unpleasant incident (((If Tommy had not had a mania for filming ALL the details of their personal life on camera, perhaps this would not have happened. In such cases, a woman is most vulnerable, it is her reputation that suffers above a man's.
And to be honest, I don't believe it was a PR move on Pam's part. The fact that she had such an image does not mean that she wanted to star in porn or put a personal video on public display.

The make-up artists really did a tremendous job, Lilka was simply unrecognizable 🙈🤩🔥Well, Seba is Seba - always beautiful and sexy, the image of a rocker will just stick to him now🎸🖤
id373972
id373972
24 Feb 18:09 # Show original
@Rin_Rin: so the series is about the fact that it wasn't a PR move, or do you think she invented a parallel reality? And in real life, was she happy about how millions of people watch the intimate moments of her life and the whole world finally knows her?
rin_rin
rin_rin
PRO
24 Feb 22:43 # Show original
Where did you read my comment?On the contrary, I spoke out in defense of Pam, that I do not believe the rumor and doubt that she wanted such fame for herself. Did I confirm or deny the rumor somewhere that it was a PR move, especially on Pamela's part?? There are various rumors about the authenticity or fake nature of this story, who to believe in what - everyone decides for himself. So I really don't understand why you answered me.
id373972
id373972
25 Feb 02:44 # Show original
@Rin_Rin: it is to your phrase that "I do not believe that this was a PR move on the part of Pam")
How, after this series based on real events and her real experiences, can we still talk about faith or not faith about a PR move?
DeadDanny
DeadDanny
PRO
10 Mar 2022, 00:39 # Show original
So suddenly they cut off everything with credits. It would be possible to make another episode. It's kind of weird. Pam fights with Tommy, corrects the tattoo, and gets divorced only 2 years later, having given birth to his second child before that, about which there is no word at all.
AllisonJB
AllisonJB
10 Mar 2022, 12:16 # Show original
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Zoyarekomendyet
Zoyarekomendyet
11 Mar 2022, 14:38 # Show original
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Griglow
Griglow
PRO
10 Mar 2022, 17:23 # Show original
What do you mean the end? I've already become close to them.
In general, the series has two feelings. If we consider only from the artistic side, then the roles played out perfectly and the plot is good. But if on the other hand, then sooooo sorry for Pamela. I honestly have never been interested in her work, I haven't heard much about the leaked video, and in general I didn't care about her. But now somehow the attitude has unfolded. It's a pity that all this has fallen on her. Yes, no one would have bothered about it now, but then, yes, it was such a scandal. It was hard to watch, but of course it was interesting.
Overall, I am happy with the viewing.
And also about Tommy and Pam's relationship... God, what a rattling mixture it is.
Margarits
Margarits
10 Mar 2022, 20:28 # Show original
An excellent series - actors, music, general dynamics🔥🔥
The only thing I understood was that Pamela was against this series...
SilverТIger_7
SilverТIger_7
PRO
11 Mar 2022, 16:52 # Show original
Sebastian Stan and Lily James played their roles superbly and were able to show us the incredible chemistry between the real Pam and Tommy! It was a pleasure to watch this gorgeous duo)
rnkrkp
rnkrkp
PRO
11 Mar 2022, 20:05 # Show original
That's the end of this series. The beginning was relatively easy, but the end was so hard.
It's a terribly sad story, actually. I am very sorry for Pam and what she had to go through.
Huge respect to the actors, they played Pam and Tommy superbly and the chemistry between them. Lily James is gorgeous.
victimofanxiety
victimofanxiety
12 Mar 2022, 04:15 # Show original
I cried almost the entire end of the series, the series was great, Lily and Sebastian just did a great job, during his outburst she pressed herself into the sofa 😥

– Oh man, I feel terrible for women. They got to deal with us.
– Yeah, you are not the greatest gender.
Sonchittaaa
Sonchittaaa
16 Mar 2022, 01:04 # Show original
I really don't want to say goodbye to them!! I agree with many of the commentators above on almost everything, so I won't repeat myself.
I started watching purely out of love for Stan, but I was so imbued with these two that their photos were saved, and there were tears in my eyes from sweet and sad moments. After the credits, I couldn't stop crying at all after the phrase "they still consider each other the love of their lives." It was really a cosmic couple!
karinabuzia
karinabuzia
PRO
17 Mar 2022, 15:12 # Show original
The transformation of Lily and Sebastian Stan is just super.
I watched the series with great pleasure.
Destiny_Ocean
Destiny_Ocean
PRO
20 Mar 2022, 18:51 # Show original
The series is great and touches on important topics about consent and how some moronic act of revenge can ruin someone's career and life. But I'm sorry that this series was filmed without the consent of Pam and Tommy. Lily was very surprised, she was wonderful in the role of Pam and conveyed her image completely. Sebastian also really liked the role of Tommy! It's a pity that they had to go through all this and also give away the rights to that video(
JTBuzya
JTBuzya
21 Mar 2022, 07:33 # Show original
@Destiny_Ocean: it seems to me that Tommy was only for this series to be filmed. For they have already begun to forget about him, Motley has not been heard of for a long time, and here is such a fit. The 80s and 90s are back in fashion, after this series, I think the albums went up again.
And as for Pam, there are two feelings here. On the one hand, it's a pity that everything turned out that way (if that's how it turned out). And on the other hand... Well, there is a video where she walked naked in front of Hefner. It's not just that there are a couple of photos for a magazine and shooting in erotic films. It's clear that it's more personal... but... Now, for example, many former webcam models go into cosplay, and when you ask them about their past occupation, they perceive and agree with hostility. There are two ways to treat this. But for the drain, of course, it was necessary to bring to justice. But, as we said above, was there a drain? Two fading stars at the end of their careers... Here, alas, no one really finds out...
derxot
derxot
08 Oct 2023, 23:34 # Show original
@JTBuzya: Yes, brother, you were raised by propaganda. You'll never know the whole truth about anything anymore.
id373972
id373972
24 Feb 18:13 # Show original
@JTBuzya: Great, so you watched a series based on real events and decided that it was a parallel reality? But in reality, Pamela was delighted that millions of people were staring at the intimate sexual moments of her life and the whole world finally knew her? Is that how you see it?
id373972
id373972
24 Feb 18:10 # Show original
@Destiny_Ocean: Tommy was in favor, Pamela refused in principle to contact on this matter.
poohlaya
poohlaya
04 Apr 2022, 22:26 # Show original
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CALIGULA
CALIGULA
14 Apr 2022, 07:39 # Show original
the fact that they shot a series about how important consent is, but did not ask the consent of the victim herself to shoot the series, Hollywood as usual, I hope everyone who wanted to watch watched pirates so that the bosses did not earn extra profit, and all the statements they say restored reputation, for the sake of a good cause, then no one will ever work just for the good cases, a loud story that can once again be unearthed, all their correct arguments are empty if they themselves do not adhere to them
eternity888
eternity888
20 Apr 2022, 23:13 # Show original
Well, at least the upcoming doc. The Netflix film is curated by Anderson herself. There we will find out the look from her side. And now Pam is not only singing along to the musical on TV, but has received a role in the popular musical "Chicago" on Broadway. In the photo at the premiere with his sons.
luonmii
luonmii
23 May 2022, 01:36 # Show original
Do you already know the name of the movie?
eternity888
eternity888
26 Jul 2022, 18:38 #
@luonmii: пока нет названия. Зато французы свою документалку сняли и у себя показали уже 15 июля. Нигде её не нашла. Кто найдёт, свистните.
Pamela Anderson & Tommy Lee - Sexe, romance et vidéo
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21289542/
https://www.netflix-movies.com/movie/987228/pamela-anderson-tommy-lee-sexe-romance-et-vid-eacute-o
MargerryBolton
MargerryBolton
30 Apr 2022, 10:31 # Show original
I hoped that whoever stole the tape would be killed
Шерстёнок
Шерстёнок
PRO
30 Apr 2022, 21:57 # Show original
A good series, featuring the work of makeup artists and main characters ♥
AlisaSever
AlisaSever
05 May 2022, 01:00 # Show original
A good series, not sorry for the time spent 👏🏻🔥
all_lavender
all_lavender
09 May 2022, 22:19 # Show original
on the one hand, it's a pity that they remembered all this unpleasant situation and Pamela had to remember it again,
but on the other hand, it's great that they showed the other side of the scandal, namely Pam's experiences and how it affected her and her life
while watching the third season of "American crime story" several times and The Clinton/Lewinsky scandal
, although the situations are generally different, but it was women who got very badly there. it's just disgusting now to watch the shows of that time with all these jokes about the "two lifebuoys" on a yacht, etc. and understand that the girls really had to answer all these humiliating questions during interrogations ... and I'm very glad that the situation in the world is changing now

now, in general, about the series. it turned out to be really cool. I watched it in one evening. it's very atmospheric, the cast is gorgeous, the makeup artists work 10/10

p.s pleased with the appearance of Mark Mahoney's cameo at the end of the
Zaharbrozzer
Zaharbrozzer
14 May 2022, 18:22 # Show original
It's a good series, but after the finale, it still feels like I was spying on someone and did something wrong. For some reason, the hand does not rise to put an assessment. Still, it's not right to shoot this without Pam Anderson's permission, no matter how good the series is and no matter how it opens people's eyes to an obvious problem. Incredibly sorry for the actress (I want to believe that this is impossible in our time.
Mirra_
Mirra_
14 May 2022, 23:16 # Show original
Everything is of course romanticized). Tommy actually infected her with hepatitis later, so-so the story actually came out.

In any case, the series is good
klasto4ka
klasto4ka
20 May 2022, 20:13 # Show original
Why couldn't Pamela and Tommy forbid the distribution of this video, and the guy who offered to buy out the copyright said that only he could sell it, and no one else could?
eternity888
eternity888
20 May 2022, 20:36 # Show original
@klasto4ka: because if they claimed their rights to the video and kept it for themselves, forbidding others to distribute it, then this would be confirmation that they initially shot and leaked the video in order to receive any benefits for it.
Nooooo99
Nooooo99
28 May 2022, 20:22 # Show original
The actors got used to the role perfectly, an amazing job! It was interesting to learn about the story of Pam and Tommy's mad love. However, in the finale, the feelings from the series are ambiguous. Once again, a woman is the center of a biased and unfair attitude towards herself. I feel very sorry for Pam in this situation.
I think many people didn't know so many details about their lives and the circumstances of the video being leaked. Personally, I only found out about it after the series was released. This has most likely caused a new wave of interest in the video, which everyone has long forgotten about. And they made Pamela worry about it again.
The creators of the series may not have planned this, but it turned out not to be very ethical, and of course no one asked for permission. Although they themselves carry the idea of the importance of consent in the series...
Nooooo99
Nooooo99
28 May 2022, 20:43 # Show original
@Nooooo99: Pam has announced the release of her documentary on Netflix. I really want to see the story of her life, told by herself.
himmelsky
himmelsky
17 Jun 2022, 18:07 # Show original
The series, in general, turned out to be quite good, primarily due to high-quality acting, uncut, so to speak. But, in my opinion, the plot story, the interpretation of events turned out to be one-sided, formulaic, sleek in that Hollywood manner that exposes real heroes of cardboard characters with clear behavioral features. So, Pam is a good Christian girl who accidentally got into Playboy, did not use drugs before meeting Tommy and generally led an almost exemplary lifestyle. The trend for MeeToo is obvious here, only from a different angle. Tommy turned out to be a flat, expressionless character against her background, a stereotypical brawler at first, who almost completely lost his charm at the end of the series. Well, Rand Gauthier somehow sharply repented of what he had done. The emphasis on the topic of female pain is obvious. And I, as a woman, am very supportive of him. But still...This emphasis personally seems to me one-sided and, unfortunately, is due to current trends in Hollywood, and not to the laws of justice.
TatianaBlunt
TatianaBlunt
PRO
14 Jul 2022, 04:38 # Show original
The series is cool. But.
A very strange feeling did not leave the whole viewing. It's like you're part of this scandal. It's like I bought this tape myself.
Poor Pam. How much she 's been through .
Mario_rossario
Mario_rossario
PRO
31 Jul 2022, 20:11 # Show original
I'm just thrilled with Lilly! I'll be rooting for her at the Emmys
sowesonya
sowesonya
13 Aug 2022, 00:21 # Show original
The series came out great) It's a very interesting story, the cast is very well chosen. I don't understand why many people say that Pamela was deliberately made "dumb", on the contrary, there were many scenes and phrases where she said very smart and logical things.
ThornyRose
ThornyRose
14 Aug 2022, 06:13 # Show original
Pamela's second son is like this: show me! SHOW ME!
eternity888
eternity888
30 Oct 2022, 17:38 # Show original
The film Alone at Night (the working title was 18 & OVER) in limited release and streaming services on January 20, 2023. They promise dismemberment, boobs, hard music and banter - everything that the director loved so much in his youth. The main character (played by Ashley Benson), who works on a webcam with an 18+ subscription, decides to retire to quarantine in a lonely forest hut after parting. But "isolated doesn't mean hidden," says the director. A man in a mask and with a crowbar in his hand is already nearby. Paris Hilton, Pamela Anderson, G-Eazy, A$AP Nast and others are on hand. The trailer https://youtu.be/Q4iqmSwClAE
eternity888
eternity888
30 Oct 2022, 17:52 #
Christipo
Christipo
01 Nov 2022, 01:26 #
так много вопросов к профессионализму их юриста…
Как вариант, когда им предложил этот Варшавски выкупить права пришло в голову, почему они сами не могли озвучить своё право на управление и распространение видео. Сами себе «продать» права…
Понимаю первая поправка и все дела. Я не юрист может и не права.

Какая-то серия вышла немного скомканная, как-будто хотели снять ещё что-то, но резко закончились деньги/вдохновение и нужно было закругляться.
Лили и Себастьен просто шикарны 😍 Великолепная работа гримёра 🙏
Viktoriya026
Viktoriya026
14 May 2023, 21:10 #
Понравился, я не поклонник ни Пэм ни Ли, но прониклась очень, жаль Пэм грустная история.
derxot
derxot
08 Oct 2023, 23:51 #
Первые половина сериала вдохновенна, вторая уже нет. Последняя серия вообще скомкана, согласен с комментарием выше.
История-то для сериала хорошая, но все равно эксплуатация.
Мораль сериала: во всем виноват грёбаный Сиэтл.
dariayana
dariayana
03 Jan 15:02 #
Сериал превзошёл все мои ожидания. После просмотра первой серии я подумала, что придётся его досматривать только ради Себастиана Стэна и его голой жопки... Ой, кхм, то есть прекрасной актёрской игры 🤭 (А играет он действительно шикарно!) Но тут дальше и сюжет интересный подъехал, и потрясающая Лили Джеймс прекрасно расскрылась как персонаж... Так что, получился очень даже хороший сериал на твёрдую четвёрку)
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