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Halo — s01e08 — Allegiance

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Duration: 48 min.
Released: 12.05.202212.05.2022 15:00
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1 season
s01e08
s01e04 - Homecoming
s01e05 - Reckoning
s01e06 - Solace
s01e07 - Inheritance
s01e08 - Allegiance
s01e09 - Transcendence
s02e01 - Sanctuary
s02e02 - Sword
s02e03 - Visegrad

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nickos
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12 May 2022, 12:41 #
Heaven and earth compared to the last series. Of course, it was possible to reduce the number of episodes by throwing out everything unnecessary (hi Kwan, fortunately she is not in this episode at all) and the dynamics would not have sagged so much. But, what is, is. Now it remains to wait for the last one.
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reddit
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12 May 2022, 14:02 #
Well
, they lost their virginity normally. she will get pregnant and in the second season they will meet again
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Mister_Tima
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18 May 2022, 15:28 #
I wonder how they know how to make love)
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Andrey_Bar
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18 May 2022, 19:47 #
@Mister_Tima: This knowledge is inherent in nature, called instinct. Or according to your logic, all animals would have already died out 🤣
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kingforthesirens
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19 May 2022, 19:47 #
@Andrey_Bar: It's about people, not animals. The main difference between one and the other is the presence of higher mental functions.
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id23728616
id23728616
21 May 2022, 13:39 #
@Andrey_Bar: Not an instinct, but vital (vital) needs, and numerous social attitudes, conscious or unconscious.
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id23728616
id23728616
21 May 2022, 13:42 #
@Mister_Tima: *Facepalm*
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darksidius
darksidius
12 May 2022, 14:03 #
Okay, you can forgive me for the last episode.
Halsey announced Order 66 while Cortana was jealous of John for 40 minutes :D
After all, they showed the glazing of the planet, it's a pity not to Madrigal, so that you can definitely finish that arch and not remember about it
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j0ker123
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12 May 2022, 15:20 #
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the episode aired 12.05.2022
Adrinalina
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12 May 2022, 15:49 #
Cool series, dynamic!
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gkalian
gkalian
12 May 2022, 19:27 #
No Quan and immediately dynamics, action, fights. Great, it would be like that right away.
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tema_krasnoe
tema_krasnoe
12 May 2022, 20:14 #
How bad was the last episode, so good is this one)
So many events, and now a whole week to wait...(
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Дашка1701
Дашка1701
12 May 2022, 22:59 #
It became so pathetic for McKay, the breakdown of the Covenant system in his head had already worked and such a combination of circumstances opened up old wounds and resentment against people(
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Penis_Vocabular
Penis_Vocabular
13 May 2022, 09:08 #
It was pointless, but now it has become stuffy. What kind of mess is it when an enemy almost becomes a friend, but then their own people make an enemy out of him again? I've seen this story so many times that it just hurts.
And now they will blame everything on poor Mackay, so that the Spartans will not be shot for treason. I'm sick of flatness.

But the dumbbell fight is great, of course. And in general, the series is nothing like that.
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Devais
Devais
13 May 2022, 09:17 #
oh my God, this series is heaven and earth compared to the previous one)
there is no Kwan and immediately there is drama (hello Cortana) and a love line (as I yelled) and betrayal of everyone with everyone)
I hope the finale will be similar to this series)))
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LeNTaY84
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13 May 2022, 12:22 #
The fire series, we are waiting for the final one..
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Yellzz
Yellzz
13 May 2022, 12:32 #
Why does it seem to me that the cliffhanger at the end of the season will be that Kwan (without which line the series feels much nicer) he will say that he knows where to fly to find the covenant and the second piece, because some monks are fumbling like that madman from the cage, and thus they will connect the lines of the Chief and Kwan again (please do not)
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fb1023424
fb1023424
16 May 2022, 16:01 #
@Yellzz: or even the whole series will be made about Kwan ...
this is probably the biggest fear of all those watching
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TIC_TAC
TIC_TAC
17 May 2022, 22:43 #
@fb1023424: This is the biggest nightmare of all watching. I won't survive another episode like this about kwan 😱😱😱
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Sheckter
Sheckter
13 May 2022, 14:03 #
The battle in the rocking chair is what you need!
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kingforthesirens
kingforthesirens
13 May 2022, 20:41 #
Well, something like that to myself. It was as if someone had smoked and decided that it was okay.
Having sex with a prisoner is like a war crime from a person who, in theory, is, firstly, asexual, and secondly, instead of a brain, has a set of rules of army laws, well, really such a thing.
The "poor thing" Maki, with her unblinking gaze, got a little tired, John, who is no longer John at all, too.
In general, how to make a bad TV series out of a good one? Let the Halo scriptwriters write the script.

Now I'm rooting with all my heart for Kai, the only adorable flower in this pile of stinking shit.........
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travismerkel
travismerkel
15 May 2022, 18:35 #
@kingforthesirens: As soon as he took out the capsule, he became human.
First of all, he is asexual, and secondly, instead of a brain, he has a set of rules of army laws, well, really such a thing.
It was all because of the capsule
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kingforthesirens
kingforthesirens
15 May 2022, 18:45 #
@travismerkel: Does a hormonal capsule erase memory and in reality there are no asexuals without a capsule? :))))))))))
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chrisgluschenko
chrisgluschenko
14 May 2022, 09:15 #
Finally, the dynamics appeared! Gun series
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a1istera
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14 May 2022, 14:56 #
Well, who ends the series in such an interesting place?) For the entire season, the first episode was watched in one go. Now we have to wait another week 🤪
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ArtchibalD
ArtchibalD
14 May 2022, 16:39 #
Protocol Z - and there it is!
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Mayers
Mayers
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14 May 2022, 18:32 #
- Goodbye, John...
Cortana: - Yeah, yeah, bye. :D
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vk673878
vk673878
14 May 2022, 21:18 #
Cool! Exon is what you need, not this muddy melancholy with Kwan. I hope that the chief will be OK with Mac in the end 👍
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the_Priest
the_Priest
15 May 2022, 00:21 #
Chief krasava:
- No one can easily get rid of decades of brainwashing
- I could
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br1ella
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15 May 2022, 16:00 #
This is how incompetent the scriptwriters are here, ppts. Watching the series with the mood to analyze it along the way was a mistake((
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cumberhams
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15 May 2022, 21:29 #
I'm sorry, but I have only one association here from a couple of Macs and a Chief - Mac&Cheese
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Eigetsu
Eigetsu
15 May 2022, 21:32 #
She forgot about the mission when animal instincts started playing, then she hates everyone again because they walked with a cudgel. And all this in one episode.
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Doro
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16 May 2022, 17:25 #
I thought they'd be talking the whole episode, walking in the park and doing sex work. Well, then there's the order 66 and stuffing comrades' faces with iron pancakes.
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dominatorik
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16 May 2022, 21:02 #
@Doro: fans are trying to get along with order 66 off topic), the participant of the order will be next week 😉
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dominatorik
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16 May 2022, 21:02 #
@dominatorik: старверс
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Shtrih
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16 May 2022, 20:55 #
What narrow-minded sheep are gathered here.
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skinners
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17 May 2022, 07:38 #
how quickly the series rolled into the U.G.
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walsnake
walsnake
17 May 2022, 14:34 #
In one episode, almost all the characters were merged, simply by rewriting their characters. Perhaps this can only be viewed further if you completely distance yourself from the name Halo. So don't give a shit about the canon regarding the characters of the key characters. To turn almost the only character who has always stood up for humanity, making any sacrifices and questionable decisions, here suddenly turned into a complete egoist with a god complex, whose exceptional fault in the next series, apparently, the Covenant will turn the Limit into glass. The most developed and populated human planet after Earth, the main headquarters of the entire space fleet, with advanced defense complexes... And all because Halsey suddenly became hysterical. There are just no words... It's so dumb...
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Фаталь
Фаталь
17 May 2022, 22:08 #
@walsnake: Damn, I seriously don't understand fanatics...TV series and movies are an artistic reinterpretation, not an exact carbon copy. If you want accuracy, go read books and play original games. Why do you have to do the same
thing and force others to do it? For example, I really liked how the Ho(a)lsi was made into an evil genius. This adds unpredictability to the series, it is more interesting to watch it as an alternative version...even Marvels are filmed with all sorts of "What if?". Or, for example, in the TV series Foundation, they added a genetic line of three Emperors, not one...
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walsnake
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19 May 2022, 09:25 #
@Fatal: the character does not correspond not only to the book/game one. Fuck it, I've given up on inconsistencies with LORE for a long time. The character was rewritten to a diametric opposite relative to just a couple of episodes of this series back. One minute she was tearing her ass off, fiercely exposing herself to all the bumps in order to save John's life and place in the unit, and then she just wastes him because he doesn't play by her rules, while she didn't even try to talk to him about it, which she always did before. And I absolutely do not believe that a man who was harshly working to ensure the safety of all people 1-2 episodes ago, in this one suddenly says that people are evil, that they should not be protected, saved and all that, and compromises the work of the general staff of the armed forces in wartime. I do not believe. This is not how she was shown in previous episodes. This is what I have designated as a fusion of the character. Plus, in the last and in this series, for some reason, twists were introduced, saying that this Blessed One would defect to people, but only to cross it out with a 1-minute episode in which she activated the artifact, giving the location of the planet to the Covenant. Which I guessed would be the case as soon as it was shown for the first time. So why did you have to try to lead me by the nose? What were all these twists and storylines leading nowhere to?
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Фаталь
Фаталь
19 May 2022, 09:33 #
@walsnake: It's also clear from the first episodes that she needed John only to make profits from the artifact. She was originally shown as a fanatic in the series. What kind of claims can there be? Why did she put Cortana in him? In order to control, of course, and in case of something completely take control of a valuable body. It all boils down to the fact that "not according to the lore, not according to the canon."..and is this really so, because in the game she was still the one (in the series she was just slightly pushed into darkness)
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walsnake
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20 May 2022, 07:30 #
@Fatal: Do you think they didn't exist before the first episodes? According to the series, this is the first find of such importance. And she had been raising and educating John for almost 40 years by this point. And it was practically not in the game. She was there for a couple of episodes in the entire franchise. The novels are another matter. And there she really was and behaved like a mother to the Spartans, and they treated her the same way. And in the games it was also displayed, and in the first episode of the series it was shown. And the scene in it, where she allowed the Spartans to chop soldiers into cabbage if they even touched her pet, made it possible to see exactly that. She always considered John to be the last hope of humanity (in the books), and in the first episodes here she gives that impression... But then, it was as if she had been replaced. So that a person could just take and put a huge bolt on the work of a lifetime, declaring the Spartans expendable, sharply unscrewed his ego to the maximum, for the sake of ambitions to rule the galaxy, dick knows where they came from... Halsey from the end of the season and Halsey from the beginning of the season are two completely different people.
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Фаталь
Фаталь
20 May 2022, 11:04 #
@walsnake: The problem is that the relationship between John's personality and John as her experimental project is intertwined here. It is very difficult to distinguish whether she really loved him personally as a mother or whether it was the fanatic's love for his project...In the series, this was shown more clearly with a focus on the project.
Perhaps this is even a misinterpretation by the creators of the series of the image from the books, or maybe they intentionally wanted to create an evil female character-a scientific genius (which is quite original and trending). In any case, the series is not bad except for some moments with other Persians.
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theteenagewitch
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23 May 2022, 18:48 #
She did not say there that people are evil and they are not worth protecting. Rather, it looks like she decided on her own how it would be better to protect people. If you hand over the artifact to them, they, the stupid ones, will kill themselves with such a powerful thing, but she will figure out how to use it and how to manage it so that all sorts of generals do not climb and do not prevent her from becoming a god (well, as an excuse for herself to make the human race divine too). Just the same, Halsey has a very well-defined character, she has clearly been on her mind since the first episode, but if at the beginning it seems to us that she is just for progress, and stupid bureaucrats are interfering with her, then in this series it becomes obvious that the stupid bureaucrats were right when she was suspended. She is a fanatic with very controversial ideas about how to do the right thing, ready to use any means to achieve her goals and her personal ambitions
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golos07
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11 Jun 2022, 20:36 #
@Fatal: A fan becomes a fan if they like the product. In its entirety, from the description of the world to the characters, what they say and what they do. When clueless artists like that grab onto the product and sculpt something "just not like everything has already been invented", such nonsense with the characters and their actions turns out. It would seem that instead of a Ring, come up with a World-Ball, call the modified people, I do not know, Hoplites, there - and release your "reinvention" to your heart's content. No one will say a word (except "take back your quantum squalor and close the series due to a drop in views on the first season").
She was not in the game like that. The first three minutes of https://youtu.be/jCoRfbtsGrk
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Фаталь
12 Jun 2022, 09:28 #
@golos07: This is an extremely exaggerated example, smacking of second-handedness. ... his fate is known, such crafts are buried by the public in category B.
The reaction of fans is a classic butchert from the slightest changes in the character traits of their favorite characters...there's not even a need to make a ring world, a ball world... lol. This technique has been used by filmmakers for a very long time to raise ratings on the conflict between fans of the original source and the new model...someone is still being conducted) I'm telling you there's a solution...do not watch the new model, these are young (or rather old and decrepit) people who are not filmed for you.
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golos07
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15 Jun 2022, 13:29 #
@Fatal: No, colleague, I disagree. The calculation is for those who saw the original-read-played-different things and they liked it and there is always a "sundress" from them. That's just how you can do like Peter Jackson with LotR - throwing out only the real unnecessary (and simultaneously dividing the fans into a lot of those who "oh, it turned out quite well" and a small part of those who, without some kind of forest devil, Bombed the whole plasticine ring). And suddenly it turned out that it was not at all "the same thing", but even a masterpiece, a textbook on how to make film adaptations.
And you can do it here, for some reason overexciting all the fans.
Halsey is a good example, yes - it is believed that changes are good if shades are added to the one-dimensional "good / evil", but here, on the contrary, for some reason the character was made flatter.
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Фаталь
Фаталь
16 Jun 2022, 12:15 #
@golos07: This is a problem of public cinema, a lot of topics in books when transferred to screens (no matter TV series or movies) are deeply taboo or simply very difficult to adapt. Roughly speaking, it will not be possible to beautifully remove a chic book idea...If Jackson's Lot is still more or less clear, he has dribbled an undisclosed niche...this simply has not been filmed yet (high-quality fantasy is meant), hence the ratings of the film adaptation. For example, Alan Moore himself and the fans of the original source (who insisted that it was not adaptable to the film standard) took over the same Snyder Keepers...although it seems like Snyder shot well. Or there is an example of the Verkhovensky Starship Troopers...Heinlein's book is about something else, but Verhoeven shot his own and it turned out well too.
Everywhere it turns out to be a demo version of the book, and initially a fairly low bar was taken, due to the inability to adapt it correctly.

For example, I can't imagine how to get rid of yourself in order to successfully transfer to the cinema... King's "Dark Tower" or, for example, the Cycle of "The Space of Revelation" by Alastair Reynolds (specifically the city of the Abyss) and so on.
For example, there is a good example of transferring J. Corey's "Expansions" to the series...again, isolated cases of hundreds and thousands of mediocrity...if there are no files at all.
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Фаталь
Фаталь
17 May 2022, 21:58 #
I watched episodes 7 and 8 as 2 different TV series...The difference in quality and pitch is too strong.
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ReaLN_KRc4
ReaLN_KRc4
21 May 2022, 14:49 #
Awesome series. The Master Chief has shown that he is cool without armor and can fight the Spartans on equal terms. Finally, he and Kartana teamed up. Top Series
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Oliverell22
Oliverell22
23 May 2022, 00:20 #
Yes, it was interesting to finally see the Chief and Cortana in battle. Very cool.
And it was also shown head-on that Kai can lift hellish weights, so even a stone bench is like an old meringue for her)
The intimate scene was, as it should be, awkward for everyone)) Cortana even added to the awkwardness.

I looked at the photos of the actress playing Maki, and I'm delighted. The girl has a great face. Change her hairstyle, change her eye color, and I wouldn't recognize her. She has different hair and looks there, and I doubted almost everywhere that I could distinguish her from others.

Everyone has already compared something with something from another universe, but it should be noted that Halsey's voice and words during the video sequence sound very impressive and impressive.
It's a pity that I don't like her.

This General Parangoski is very dumb. A woman who hides her incompetence and her fear with all her might, but it is so clearly written on her face that I do not understand how she has not been suspended yet. She's also an evil bitch.
Because even though Maki is a flat character so far, she was still pitied in the end.
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alavitka
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08 Feb 07:56 #
@Oliverell22: And I'm just admiring the actress who plays this Parangoski. Well, it's great! Such a texture...
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zhosman-kinoman
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23 May 2022, 00:26 #
This series is already more interesting 😎🔥🔥🔥
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29 May 2022, 15:56 #
Maki is sorry 🥺
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grigorievav
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30 May 2022, 21:37 #
What kind of love affair is this between John and McKee?!
Scriptwriters, what have you done?? 🥲🥲
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grigorievav
30 May 2022, 21:38 #
Cortana, of course, well done! I doubted her until the last moment
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Freeman
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06 Jun 2022, 20:00 #
Even here the protocol is Z, hospade...
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Den4ikyahoo
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01 Jul 2022, 18:11 #
The bomb series💣 a normal couple would come out)) and finally John needed AI, he will probably be like superman soon)
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naglyxo_04
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07 Aug 2022, 02:55 #
And how is it that John can fight back against the Spartan exoskeleton?
How does AI affect this if this AI itself only prompts, and does not control John. Here, the reaction rate should be a human factor, not a fictional one.
And graphically, John's movements were similar to those of the Spartans. (Speed of movement and speed of execution of punches, techniques)
I like this kind of action, but it's not logical.
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alavitka
alavitka
08 Feb 07:58 #
@naglyxo_04: The exoskeleton cannot affect the reaction rate, because it is in the brain. Only for strength, etc. Although it was also unclear to me how it was possible to fight without an exoskeleton. I thought maybe I didn't understand something about the details of their costumes. Those little ridges on John's back were constantly bothering my eyes. Apparently this is the strengthening part. I.e. they seem to be always in the part of the exoskeleton? I'm xs shorter.
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naglyxo_04
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08 Feb 08:11 #
@alavitka: I agree with only half of it. In our world, the concept of an exoskeleton is like that, but what is it there? I don't know.
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09 Feb 00:47 #
@naglyxo_04: I mean, their speed is not from skeletons, but from something else, are they all scarred for nothing? Well, the ridge on John's spine is constantly worn like some part of an exoskeleton, otherwise I don't see any excuses to carry this crap all the time.
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Мася
Мася
24 Aug 2022, 06:59 #
* Dad came to his daughter*
- Dad, I can't decipher the recording, I don't understand anything, it's a strange dialect.
* Dad, after thinking about it, asking for unnecessary things, says * - You can handle it. * leaves*.
It's just great, what a good fellow, I wonder why he came, why he asked if he didn't tell me anything.
Otherwise, it turned out to be funny how John kept away from other Spartans in suits with his bare hands. He's a Master for a reason.
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walsnake
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24 Aug 2022, 11:56 #
@Мася: он не мастер. Мастер Чиф - это всего лишь воинское звание. Главный старшина по нашему.
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Мася
Мася
24 Aug 2022, 16:32 #
@walsnake: it's understandable, I just wanted to add this word to him, as an assessment of his coolness in a particular fight.
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alavitka
alavitka
08 Feb 08:00 #
@Masya: Dad did a good job. If he had said the same thing without first listening to the essence of the problem, it would have looked like he just got out of it, but he didn't give a shit.
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g1217882
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08 Feb 2023, 19:56 #
Halsey seems to see herself as a god. I hope everything goes well with the Chief. And McKay was already on the dark side in the beginning, so she came back with ease
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