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s04e06 — End of the Beginning
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| Release Date: | 08.08.2024 15:00 |
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With Ben and Jennifer in peril and the Cleanse underway, the family unites for one last fight to save the world — and end the infinite devastation.
Discussion: Season 4, Episode 6 Join the Discussion
620Blah, blah, it doesn't make sense to make Victor transgender. He literally spent his whole life on ability blockers and being under the suggestion of Allison that he was ordinary (wow, can this also inspire cisgenderism???). Victor literally spends season 1 and 2 in an identity crisis and finally comes to harmony with himself in season 3. Once again, it MAKES SENSE
I do not support Haight in relation to any people, and I do not dislike queer personalities, but I sincerely believe that their choice to make the transition is very much imposed on them either by society, or by serious childhood injuries, or by a psycho.deviations
And this needs to be worked out and the reasons clarified, rather than encouraging and actually worsening the health of such people with various operations and drugs (
It is very sad that people generally have to deal with such thoughts and problems, and that society, in an attempt to show tolerance, goes to extremes and begins to normalize things that are harmful to health.
💔 This series just killed me
Thank you to the Academy for lighting his star again
The laser from the eyes has not been explained, as well as many other questions from different seasons.
In general, if we look at it, it turned out to be a pretty good story.
The scene after the credits really came out touching, only the flowers of the tree remained from the eight, well, at least something)
I hope I explained it clearly
I do not undertake to assert the truth, but I see it this way)))
And how are their children alive if they are not in the original timeline?
it took me a long time to get used to the rules of time travel, watching Marvel. as a result, I realized everything in half with grief. and then there are such jokes with children))))) IT WAS HARD ENOUGH FOR ME, DON'T BREAK MY BRAIN AND IDEAS ABOUT TIME
it's corny, simple, but happy and in general, life has not been lived in vain, we have achieved balance and deserve a normal life
Allison was successful in all universes, although she started life from scratch three times. In the original she was a superstar, in the 60s she lived happily married with a wonderful husband, this season she lived in a beautiful house with a loving daughter and had a stable job (albeit less famous), she also pulled her brother around her neck.
And Klaus would have kept himself well tied up, if only his dibilistic family hadn't egged him on. He even threw sake over his shoulder when caring relatives shoved a glass under his nose. I was really proud of him at that moment. But when the whole brain is burned by drugs and alcohol, it's hard to find any joy in normal life, and nevertheless he tried
There is a problem with the marigold, which gives strength, they removed it, the children took the subway to the main world, the worlds were erased.
personally, I did not pay for watching, the bazaar is zero, but the commentator above was not talking about himself personally, but about the fans and the crowd in general. Wasn't the series filmed for them?
And about the cancellation of shitty projects, we also know such precedents — for example, Batgirl.
You need to shoot for yourself, so that you like it yourself, and not try to meet the expectations of those who are sitting at the screen.
Not all Kevin Costners with their Horizons or Francis Ford Coppola with Megalopolis, who at their advanced age can finally shoot something for themselves for their own money.
Do you even understand how a movie is made? That it all starts with the idea that the script is being written on, and then they are looking for funding and those who want to participate in this case. And in order to get a good product at the exit, in this process there should be no thoughts about how much the audience will like it. Because when such thoughts appear, the authors stop taking risks and start shooting shit. And 100,500 seasons of TV shows appear not because it's all 100,500 fucking seasons, but because the first ones were cool, people got attached to the characters and are ready to spit and yell for a while, but watch it anyway. And pay the loot, for which they stamp out all sorts of shit in such quantities. No one shoots 100,500 seasons with the thought "oh, they like it so much, let's shoot another season, otherwise they'll be upset that the series is over." And the last 2 seasons of Umbrella are proof of that.
And what the fans want in all this, no one cares at all.
If not, then by what criterion do you judge the project's "goodness", if not according to the audience's opinion?
Do you understand how a movie is made? What you have described is the case of an enthusiast, an aspiring writer with a script in his hands, who hits the doorsteps of studios and shoots for pennies, like some Kevin Smith in his younger years. Do you think there are no examples when a studio buys the rights to books/ comics/remakes /reboots/biopics and already allocates a budget for this case and hires a group of screenwriters and directors?
In your opinion, Umbrella is not such a case? Gerard Way, the author of the comic, did not direct any series and did not write a script for any of them. Is this an author's project in your opinion, which was made for the soul, and not for the audience? He may have written the comic for the soul, but the series is pure commerce, which was created for Netflix subscription owners.
What is there to argue about, I really don't understand. To think that a movie is being shot for the audience is, it turns out, to have an ego. Holy shit. Well, apparently, for the glory of Satan, a movie is being shot and only for him, and here we are just mimic-coders, casually looking in with one eye
Secondly, what is "cinema for the sake of art" and what do we include in this category? The concept is too broad. Are any Lanthimos or Trier being filmed for the sake of art, or are you lumping them together with Michael Bay? Well, their films also find their audience, just not the mass audience, and you can see their paintings in my list, too.
Thirdly, which take are you responding to? That's what I'm saying, that cinema is a commodity and a product. Even an author's movie is made in order to earn money or convey an idea — that is, it is simply impossible to make a movie not for the viewer who will watch it. What was not done for the audience and not for money lies somewhere on a shelf in Weinstein's personal collection, and we, mere mortals, will never see it.
But I don't spend letters on the obvious, I won't help the situation with that.
It's a pity that a good series was leaked in such a way.
It was really interesting to watch the events. Therefore, the end, a bunch of plot holes and an unnecessary romantic line between the Fifth and Laila just break your heart.
If Allison's daughter and Lila and Diego's children, who simply shouldn't exist, fit into the only correct timeline, then why couldn't the main characters fit in there after they released their particles into "purification" and lost their strength ... In the promo for the season they promised that the end would be bittersweet, but somehow sweet I In short, I didn't really feel it.
And help me understand, if Klaus is immortal, why didn't he come to life for so many years during the first apocalypse, in which the Fifth was stuck?
And to the question "why stick around again?" the most banal answer is because Klaus is a drug addict. And if we go deeper, we were not shown whether the ghosts released him + all the psychological traumas were clearly not worked out. And it would be better if he spent a year without Marigold on therapy than wrapping a room with a film with pimples
Forces that are, that are not
It is not disclosed as much as possible, although it can probably be said about many people🧐
I saw the photo, he looks so exhausted. I hope he's okay (
Did Reggie and Abigail kill two people and put on their skin, or did they create it for themselves?
Why didn't Ben remember the cause of his death and tell Klaus all these years? Reginald couldn't erase his memory, only Klaus's. Therefore, after Reggie's death, he should have told me right away.
Ray's actor refused to work on the final season, or why wasn't he there and the character just walked away from Allison?
Sloane. The same question. I assumed Sloane's life was for Luther's, but Ray was resurrected...
The reactions of Klaus, Luther and Allison to the novel of the Fifth and Lila are something!
Lila's new power was never explained. Until the last moment, I thought that they would resolve the situation with the help of friendship magic or other stuff, and show that Gracie has a power - lasers. It didn't happen. Did you do it to do it?
Many moments could have been more epic. When the family arrived by car to the protesters, I thought that Allison would force them to disperse. It's not for nothing that her strength was pumped, but no.
I hoped to the last to the scene after the credits, where they would be shown that they are people and do not remember anything at least, but there are just Marigold flowers of the same name...
Again, I hoped to the last that they would join hands and their forces would merge and fix the chronology and rewrite reality. It's not for nothing that they have the strongest forces: reality, soul, space and time, energy.
But I am glad that they still successfully saved the world without the endless ends of the world...
I will miss the series and this strange family, despite their sometimes stupid or even infuriating actions.
It's sad that they didn't show the true faces of Abigail and Reginald.
Well, in short, they searched for the right branch for 6 years, found it, drove it to their reality in 2030 and moved back to 2024 — something like that.
(well, or not at 30, whatever. The bottom line is that they have aged 6 years)
We were not shown what the soap apocalypse with the Ben Jennifer monster looked like, but the Fifth and Laila had to run out into it to return home. We were only shown the transfer of the diary with the coordinates, and the next scene — they are already on the threshold of Diego's house. I do not dispute that everything is confused here. Explain then how they came back if the subway only moves between universes, but not in time. Or does the subway always move to August 8, 2024, no matter what year you boarded it? I don't remember it being labeled. If only by the appearance and age of the alternate Fifth in the post-fight. Then yes, it turns out which branch you don't sit on, you'll get to August 8th. Well, it doesn't change the essence. It turns out that they shied away for 6 years on the alternative 8th of August 2024
Ben did not remember his death, as his father shot him from behind, and he did not know who shot him. And the brothers and sisters were inspired by Reginald that Ben just died on a mission. It was elementary for them that there were no questions. That's why Klaus and Ben didn't discuss it.. The moment is reminiscent of the plot from Men in Black 4, when Chris Hemsworth's character does not remember how they defeated the Swarm.
But it's sad not even that they didn't show Abigail and Reginald's faces, but didn't reveal them.. Why are they on earth? What is the purpose of coming to our planet?
And in general, there are a lot of unanswered questions. Who built the alternative Oblivion Hotel, who built the universe restart machine, who built the subway)
E and R are on Earth because their planet has perished. But only R was supposed to fly to it, since E died on her planet. As A explained, he simply should not have released Marigold in order to get his wife back in the end, but just spend the rest of his life here, then no branches of time branches would have appeared.
The hotel built a R around the portal in the relaunch, explained at the end of season 3. The restart of the universes itself has been there for centuries, apparently no one knew where it came from.
I'm just guessing about the subway, but there are so many of them that I won't even bring up this topic)
They returned at the same time, I guess, just judging by the costume of the Fifth, they also stopped to change and then drove to Lila's house. Here's just a couple of hours :D
But I'm most sorry that they didn't perform their traditional family dance.
But for Tiffany – I Think We're Alone Now, thanks a lot to them, back to the beginning
Ps. If the waiter has gained strength, maybe his strength is the lasers from his eyes. And strengthening Laila's power allows her to copy forces at a greater distance, such as in one big city or in one country.
I think when the Fifth and Laila found their station, they also rewound the time 7 years ago. That's why they appeared on the doorstep of the house in the same suits they were in before the trip
To be honest, the season is average, compared to the previous three it has sunk significantly. In my opinion, season 1 was the most delicious, and this one was the least liked.
And yet, it's a pity to say goodbye to the already beloved scumbag heroes. They left beautifully, but with a sadness…
He was still engaged in a solo career at that time (it's a pity that few people appreciated this masterpiece called Hesitant Alien, but I was too late (by 4 years) and could get to a concert in my city).
The fifth called the waiter a Killjoy, I didn't have time to hear in the original, but I give a tooth called him Killjoy, literally) Again, references to the 2010 album Danger Days and the comic sequel from 2014 (in Russian, the Legendary Killjoys and their real life)
The season is cool. So much has been made up and the backstory has been shown, and confused a little bit.
But, in principle, it was clear that if it weren't for them, then everything would go on and on as it should.
It is very difficult to wait 2 years for a new season, I set the task for autumn - to watch all the seasons at once.
Goodbye, umbrella. I'm going to miss you.
PS - even somehow lousy Luther was looking for the love of his life, while his brother could jump on parallels, and in general (
Minus for the fact that there was not a single MyChem soundtrack, well, kamon, they put it in the trailer, they could have ended the series with some Last Famous Words, most of the viewers of the series came only because of Gerard, kamon.
In general, the series turned out to be 50/50, of course I won't review it, but for a couple of cool moments throughout the action, like.
Goodbye, Hargreaves ❤
And the sensations are very crumpled. We watched-watched four seasons, but none of this happened :D
And what kind of baushka was with him? It's a pity Cha-chu wasn't shown
ehhh I loved this series very much and did not feel anything from the whole season except for a couple of moments that were fatly blocked by the kring line of the Fifth and Lila, because it would be possible to do everything not so straight and vanilla, it was so mediocre and cheap, it's just terrible that this finale can be put on one shelf next to season 8 of game of thrones
It's infuriating that they've all lived such a busy life, and in the end, bam, they just didn't exist🥺 I understand they couldn't have been born at all, in principle... But damn, it turns out that everything is useless, even if they are flowers now... and yes, it's strange that their children (who came from non-existent parents) stayed alive🤔
I liked that at the end they said yesterday's date of this year, how the creators prepared, they knew exactly when the series would be released 🔥
I love these guys endlessly and the series is still one of my favorites. 💙
From the very first episode, I assumed that this could happen, but not in all seriousness
And in the end, I didn't understand why it was necessary to bring them together. Lila did a terrible thing, it's just a pity for the fifth and Diego.
And the ending really upset me. I wanted a happy ending 😭😭😭
Out of all 145 thousand attempts to stop the end of the world, only one Fifth persuaded his family to sacrifice themselves? It's certainly not the 14 million visions of Strange, but it's still weird.
In general, thanks for the finale, thanks for the soundtrack (it was really good here). Well, as Klaus said, the main wisdom of the season:
— I love you guys, but you are all assholes.
Such "denouements " completely devalue the entire plot that was before. Just forget it, none of this was supposed to happen.
Unfortunately, I personally never want to review the series with such finales - so they achieved their goal, Umbrella Academy is waiting for oblivion: (
The season is very chaotic, in some places it is stretched so that you can fall asleep, and in some places you should leave the room for half a minute - and you no longer understand what happened.
And we could give them a last dance before the last end of the world, no?
It's sad and insulting, I think I'll review the 1st season somehow, the candy is the same
Diego's awareness of his love for his family in the CIA, along with the birth of love between Laila and the Fifth – is it serious????
Ben in general ... What was that? It would be better if I didn't know about the continuation of the series, but stopped at the third, or better yet, the second season
Finished as finished. But I would have left at least one so that he could save everyone later and fix everything.
Bunny Claus is forever in my heart ♥
The fifth one has been brilliant as an actor since the first season. Bunny Five, as a hero, deserved at least a little happiness with Leila. ♥️♥️♥️
It is clear that many, many questions have not been answered, and seasons 3 and 4 are weak in plot, locations, and saturation.
Season 2 is my favorite!)
I also insist that the Fifth deserves to be happy at least a little bit in his 70s.
Well, the acting of the Fifth (especially in the first two seasons) can be endlessly admired. Klaus and the Fifth are very vivid characters, forever in my heart)
Six episodes are the very thing, they finished very well, everything is logical and dramatic.
Good bye, Umbrella Academy 👉👈
Gerard and Gabriel, as producers, make you think that this is the canonical canon for possible comic book sequels one day, and it breaks your heart no less.
I don't know, you need to get used to it, get used to it.
Thanks guys Hargreaves. I love you very much and I will miss you. A great series, great actors, my heart is yours forever.
I didn't understand why children exist if parents were erased from the timeline, what are such wonderful properties of the subway? 🤷🏻♀️
And where the fuck is Delhi Sloane going? Remember, Luther had a wife :/
Do you remember in the finale of the third season there was a scene after the credits where Ben was riding the subway? Why throw in some kind of hook if you're not going to use it later?
And what exactly was it between the Fifth and Lila? Why and why? Meh.
In general, I sympathize with people who have been waiting for the continuation of their favorite series for two years, and in the end they got it.
Until recently, I believed that Laila and the Fifth were an awesome bromance, not an awkward and random love line. how ridiculous their "love" scenes looked is just a separate topic, zero chemistry, especially against the background of Laila+Diego. who needed it at all...
It's a shame that in the end, the characters we know from several short scenes from the same season survived, and the characters who fought so much and sacrificed everything for peace did not deserve their happily ever after
There were enough cool scenes and characters, too, and many people had great acting. After all, we didn't completely fail the season, and finally, at least it was over.
the creators of the series acted foolishly, of course, that they left such significant moments for the audience to think out for themselves. then we can come up with a normal ending ourselves)
then the only thing that confuses me then is why there was even a stutter about these 43 children. some kind of misunderstanding or changed their mind halfway through, like "these are magical and cool, and finally forget about the rest, I don't care how they lived." although at least in the original timeline, they all had superpowers, but some became celebrities, and others had zero mentions. Like no one shot without Reginald? I don't believe it))
However, the FBI could have taken someone for experiments quite well.
But this is probably where all my "thanks" this season ends ...
And how beautifully it all began
Goodbye, Umbrellas💔
The series had such potential, as it could be tested... Ahem, ahem... Lose it?(
I think that I will return to the cool moments of season 1-2 more than once, but I want to forget the 3-4 seasons. Not even that, they will forget themselves, since the last two seasons are about nothing at all.
Eh.
A lot remains a mystery, but fuck it, after the disastrous third season, this one is a super-masterpiece.
I was really looking forward to the final season and hoped for a cool conclusion - although last season turned out to be weak, there were hopes that they would improve in the 4th. I remember how excited I was about the first season and I liked the second one too, and it really hurts what they did with the series. Uh, sad.
The antagonists of the season, although they are not really antagonists, are terribly disappointing. Hazel and Cha-Chi, by comparison, also didn't have a specific background, and they were a great example of how you can write strong, interesting, charismatic characters without revealing the backstory. Jean and Jen have nothing but a goofy image, although they seemed to have potential at first, especially considering WHAT a stunned and numerous army of followers they have gathered.
There's some kind of hat with abilities this season. Lasers from the eyes have already been mentioned many times, while in the last two episodes they remembered that Laila could also copy other people's abilities, which means that the old skills still somehow survived, while Allison never uttered the trademark "rumor has it" - even at the time of by twisting eggs, when it was most appropriate, they replaced it with some kind of psionics, akin to Victor. And in general, somehow a lot of unnecessary fervent brutal violence arrived.
Why did Luther acquire the body of a gorilla after all - I did not understand, because it was not the influence of Marigold, but the result of a surgical operation? Correct me if I'm wrong.
At first, Klaus's interesting line about finding the fear of death and about the subsequent acceptance of his mortality did not grow into anything other than comic relief. But, probably, I really want to, it's a difficult topic.
Victor's unprocessed long-term traumatic grudge against his father ran through the entire season, developed in one three-minute dialogue with an alternate version of Reginald. As if they remembered about this line, caught themselves - and shoved it in for show.
A representation of friendship (even sworn friendship) between a man and a woman: well, yes, well, fuck me. Ugh.
The good news is a very touching relationship between Claire and Klaus, built against the background of how Allison, ostracized after last season, seized on the most unstable and dysfunctional of the brothers. As it seemed to me - for my own comfort. But the real warmth was felt between him and her daughter.
And, in short, against the background of all this disappointment, the ending with self-annihilation is so crystal clear. I don't even feel sorry for anyone, it feels like I didn't have to say goodbye to my favorite characters.
I will miss Umbrella-the one that I loved before, that I waited for for two years and returned to in difficult moments, like home. A long and sad farewell did not work out, it happened somewhere in the middle of the season unnoticeably.
Thanks for everything, and goodbye.
Allison also took advantage of her ability to start a rumor once this season - when a bunch of Keepers went to her and her brothers in a small town, she forced one of them to shoot all the others and then shoot himself. however, she did not say anything, but inspired him with the need for this action somehow remotely. but at least so 🥲
The open ending of season 3 was more interesting.
Reg, selfishly wanting to save his wife, creates a multiverse that eventually made everyone unhappy.
RIP Umbrella Academy 🥀
It's very sad, I would like a naive and banal happy ending, of course. But the creators of the campaign really did not want to solve all these interpersonal problems and love triangles that they had screwed up.
Sadness.
It's a pity that Ben had half a season on his own, that Diego and Luthor didn't have a special role either, but overall it was still very interesting. I'll probably reconsider it sometime.
Eight marigolds in the post-credits milot scene, of course. Let's at least meet like this.
I remember how much I loved Klaus × Diego and Klaus × Ben bromances. It was fun to watch in season 1, it got me hooked. What they did next with Klaus is such a disappointment. They did Diego dirty. I can't remember what I ever liked about Ben.
Five and Lila is just 🤢 Idk why it's so disgusting to me, but it is. Made me so uncomfortable.
It finally ended. Bye.
So here the authors also have a problem that they rarely know whether their series will be extended or not, and from this you need to try to tell a more or less complete story, with a hint of continuation. In this case, the continuation turned out to be so-so also due to the fact that some of the previous lines were simply abandoned and forgotten.
But if the author has no idea or has a bad idea of how the story should end, something like this will turn out. Often, the story grows, absorbs the author, he gets confused and cannot steer properly to the finale. Therefore, imho, Martin PLIO will not finish in any way.
Well, I do not know if you have ever written, but often in the process you realize that as planned, it will not work anymore. Rowling Vaughn was going to kill Harry Potter, for example.
The feeling that someone was told the main idea of the series, he did not really understand and went to shoot on a limited budget. Okay?
All the screenwriters in the world seem to be obsessed with timelines at one time, although this breaks the narratives and does not add points to the series / films, only adds extra semantic load... Against the background of such a confusing and short finale, I decided to review the masterpiece of the first season completely in order to get the thrill I was waiting for from the new season, but alas, I did not get it.
Does Five have a name? And is it Max like the name of the deli we see at the end of the season?
Blackman: No. Five’s name is Five. What we came up with was that — and I think this also has to do with Gerard Way telling me this — as the kids grew up, they got to pick their names and Grace (the Brellies’ adoptive robot mother, played by Jordan Claire Robbins) helped pick their names. Five could never pick one. He just was that kind of stubborn kid who didn’t know what his name was yet. And when he was 11, he disappeared and got lost in the future. So he never got back to be able to have a name. So he just kept Five. So Five’s name is only Five. There is no other name for Five.
Gerard Way: He was basically like, “Fuck you!” That’s the way it was in the comic, even though you haven’t seen it yet.
Initially, in principle, I only liked two characters - Klaus and the Fifth. Klaus was prescribed at least some variety. but the Fifth, for all its dynamism, seemed like some kind of nonsense all season.
It turned out a little short. Something was missing. there would be more episodes, maybe we would get more adventures of Diego and Luther, it would be fun.
Paige still doesn't know how to play, and the long scene where Victor yells at Reggie only worsened this impression ((
for the first time in my life, I had a desire to read fix-it features, because somehow it's all wrong. or you will have to imagine that this season did not happen %)) Although there are such great ideas on tumblr how to fix all this, maybe I'll pull myself together and draw a fix it comic.
Well now, it's definitely Umbrella, lol
There are a lot of unexplained elements, unclosed branches and filler plots in this short season.
Initially, the story was built around Vanya (Victor), and ended with the central protagonist in the person of the fifth.
The best episode is the second. That's all that can be highlighted this season. The last episode started off great with Muse, but all that followed was shame and shame for the fans.
I'm going to miss this family. Bye
Moreover, in which nothing is clear
The fifth one who died an old man ? Yes, it's just that another fifth decided to found. From another timeline
Motivation? Well, I just didn't want to come alive, but my husband revived me, so let's fuck the whole world.
Why start this at all if you could just cure the bottle (which Abigail apparently threw) on Jennifer and that's it?
Do we need people to die? By the way, was there anything left in it? Or did they get at Klaus after all?
It feels like another series with the same characters.
And by the way, what about relatives? Are these really Lila's parents who are alive in this timeline? She just found them and came to the door and said I'm your daughter, here's my husband, are we expecting a baby?
It seems that there is little time and it could have been spent on explanations, and not on the sad eyes of the fifth. A completely meaningless line with Lila.
Sad sad, very upset to be honest(
I didn't understand at all. We didn't finish anything and it was very sad and insulting (I liked this series because yes it is "funny" And here it was reduced to some bad pink snot everywhere that is out of place
and I still don't understand where Lila's family came from in the new timeline
what are the different questions for and from where)
there are cool moments, there are no conceptual complaints about the finale (not all cats have happy endings), the season looked cheerful (especially when I had already forgotten about all the old guns, like me), but uneven, there are also blunt turns (the line of the Fifth and Laila looked beautiful and tremulous at the moment, but only in isolation from the rest of the series; as someone has already mentioned, it really looks like an homage to peaches and plums, motherfucker, but rather awkward, especially considering the 15-year age difference between the actors and the fact that the Fifth, even if he is in the world without magic " (tm) I began to grow up, physically at most 19; they showed these pictures of the actors at the end, I forgot what a tiny bead Aidan was in the first season). in general, well, this. but at least the gestalt is closed, and we've seen worse endings.
Screenwriters like to leave a bitter aftertaste
So everything started well once, and now they've ended up with this?
Yes, everything was bad for the series last season, but I hoped that by the end they would do something really powerful and finish everything with dignity. But this season looked like it was filmed and edited by a man with schizophrenia.
of course, it is impossible to ignore the number of plot black holes, but I am really glad that this whole thing, which began in the third season, has come to an end. All love and good TV shows😽
Sijiai flowers were finished off with the last frame)) a strike is a strike, but it would be better to postpone the end of the season than to end like this
Here we have a complete picture, all the arches are closed and that's good. Yes, it's a pity for your favorite characters that you had to say goodbye to them, but it's better than just dropping it later on some 6-7-8 season.
Reginald and Abigail remained so unclear to me. What kind of aliens are these? What is their mission of staying on our planet? 🤔
If even in the third season the motivation of the Pope was clear, he faked his own death to start a series of events and bring back his dead wife, but still their purpose of staying on earth remains unclear.
Why Abigail died in the first place. Why did she create Marigold and Durango in the first place 🤔
Who built an alternative version of the hotel called Oblivion. What kind of unkillable samurai appeared in it on a call at the reception 🤔
And most importantly, who is the creator of the universe restart console?
Who created the subway? It reminded me a little of the Dark Matter series, but there was a man-made cube moving through the multiverse.. Who is the architect of the metro here ?
"Why she created Marigold in the first place" I don't think there was a special reason, just scientific interest. People systematically discover new elements of the periodic table, simply because they can. " Who built it... Oblivion" Reg, no?
As for the construction, it seems like yes, Reginald found a wormhole in a field, and built a hotel on this site.. This is where the moment is not clear, the same builders were building an alternative hotel... Or this hotel was built in parallel to the main one)))
But there's more of a question about the remote control of the universe)
Well, Reg on the one hand, alternative Reg on the other)) Well, the remote is really xs)
the scene after the credits is sad too.
even in the last episode, the couple of Laila and the fifth did not feel so bad anymore
The CGI level...a series from the 90s + cut scenes from games. It was neither realistic as in previous seasons nor atmospheric (as in Strange Cases, for example)
It's a very strange shoot. Camera angles, color correction, scales. Sometimes it felt like I was watching such a cheap sitcom from a small American town
The scenery was also pumped up. And the soundtracks are either the wrong ones or in the wrong place. It was especially noticeable in the battle scene with the monster. And it would be cool if they danced at the end, as in previous seasons, and not just stood while they were swallowed up by the muck.
The script and dialogues with holes.
You literally had a successful product ready in your hands, with a good idea, actors and design. Well, how could this be done?? What went wrong??
How suits suit the guy... He didn't need a relationship line at all._.
There is nothing more to say, we started for health, finished for peace.
This is not the end I expected.
My beloved crazy family, I will miss you very much, I wanted so much for them all 💔💔💔
The series flew by very quickly
The development of many lines was not enough
But, in any case, thanks to the authors for so many interesting characters
And tell me how the story ends in the comic, who read it?!
love lines also turned out to be dead ends.
It probably should have been left for season 3.
Shit
The last season as farewell came out well. But the series itself is a bit strange, yes) At least it was brought to some kind of logical conclusion, many Netflix series of those years died after 1-2 seasons.
P.S. Before watching this season, I watched the series Black Matter, where the plot was based on the multiverse, it's funny)
The whole season, only the actors pulled on themselves, but they could not save this, the plot was hopeless.
And it's even sadder that they didn't give us their dance.
If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution.
I'm going to review the first seasons and listen from there to Tiffany - I Think We're Alone Now, The Phantom of the Opera performed by Lindsey Stirling, Istanbul performed by They Might Be Giants, Kiss – I Was Made for Lovin’ You and a dozen others… Wow, how much good music they've piled up!
Hello! Good bye!
Well, being a selfish person, I would just jump from branch to branch with the whole family and live my best life. There are an infinite number of branches, you can get out anywhere and move at any time, their powers allow it. Why not then?
What was perhaps possible here was to show the connections within the family. Everyone eventually found their own truth. Seeing his father's approval, Klaus realized that he was not alone. The first one had a match with a knife thrower. Poor guy five suddenly found love in Laila. Laila has reconciled with her husband. Ben, who sacrificed himself. A strange, dysfunctional family that is trying to find a foothold and who find it in the same broken relatives. Technically, the plot moves and the work of the universe did not work out very well, but emotionally, yes.
I still expected in the end that they had survived. Without Marigold, without memories, but still survived. On the other hand, a natural end for a family whose end of the world is an ordinary environment and who find it so difficult to find a place in life (which is still not very convenient for them)
There is a little scene after the credits🌝
terrible + cringe + holes + ultra cringe of an unnecessary novel + loss of all the character developments that were before
Thanks for it again. I wish I'd listened.
what was it all about and was it necessary at all? it was worth stopping at the 3rd.
I even felt a little sorry for Diego, Lila and the Fifth. We couldn't even really talk about this situation. I understand the feelings of each of them, so I see no point in blaming anyone.
It's necessary, as they believe a brother.
He alone thought, said and all collapsed))
In the end, it seemed that I was watching another episode of Dark Matter, especially where there were many Fifths, well, I couldn't help but remember the ending of Dark
It seems to have done well for everyone, but it's so sad 🥲 light sadness
All this breaks the season completely. I got into the ending anyway, because I really love these characters, any ending would have made me cry. And even a piano with erasing itself from reality (it's not so bad) it could have turned out if the writers had built it correctly in the plot, throughout all 6 episodes. The impotence of the screenwriters killed
and Sloane, who in fact turned out to be the love of Luther's life, mentioned Luther once 🤡
The moment when Laila takes a step out the door - just bravo to both the actress, and the directors, and the camera work - honestly, it took my breath away, how cool they conveyed this feeling of necessity and a little death literally in one second.
The photo of the shooting process and the scene after the credits left a pleasant aftertaste.
P.S. I don't even have the desire to describe why, to discuss something. Therefore, only 2 words
as a result, the flowers of Marigold are blooming and the apocalypse will be again
Maybe I missed it, but why was the girl found in the squid in the first place? Did the screenwriters just want to? And why wouldn't she and Ben turn into a huge squid instead of this miserable something...
For some reason, it also raised a lot of questions that everything was happening around Christmas time. Was the series originally supposed to be released at the end of December?
Why would you do that?
We could just jump into the past and kill the blonde who came up with the magic concoction.
They would show why their mother died.
Close the loop.
Well, I'm hz, just tentacles with monsters? I didn't wait a year for this))))
I want a separate series about the fifth!!!!
And how and when did the seven find out about Marigold?
And how and when did the seven find out about Marigold?
Well ok.
Everyone is always unhappy
The logical conclusion
The only thing I liked was the very beautiful and atmospheric shots of winter American nature and a small town. Well, the soundtracks are at their best as usual. One umbrella out of five this season.
As if a bunch of events from there didn't affect anything
thanks for the fifth and his smile 🥰
It would be better if they stayed in the subway 🥺💔
Yes, there are enough questions left, but the story itself, the actors, the atmosphere have done their job and I don't even want to dig into the flaws.
It's not strange, but I've been waiting for the spike of the Fifth and Laila since season 2. Yes, they look cool with Diego, but these sparks of the Fifth and Laila... Aiden Gallagher played an adult so smartly that even at 17 he was perceived as Laila's equal in age. Speaking of Gallagher. I consider him a new rising star for five years now, it's a pity that he doesn't act much, he's a talented guy and very handsome. Yes, there were a lot of shipp dramas, but it's been so long since I've watched anything romantic that I've been into it. And even all these cliches.
Victor's line is great this season. Their connection with Ben, papallelle with the second season, which made me cry for half the series, his confidence and, finally, proof to my father that his strength is worthy of being part of the team.
The rest were somehow not affected by the development. Allison is still the savior of all, Klaus is still weak in spirit, Luther is stupid and strong, and Diego is a fanatic. It is sad that it so happened that in fact none of them achieved anything new, if not degraded. Well, okay, Diego seems like a normal father.
Overall, the ending is very sad. I hoped that they would be born, but without Marigold, but alas. I cried for half an episode because it was very sad. And Ben's connection with Vanya, and the fact that as a result they all died, or rather were never born. But this is probably the logical ending for the whole story.
It was nice to see the cameos of the heroes of previous seasons)) I will definitely review the entire series later.
The fifth is the most interesting character for me. There are 100 times more dramas in his history than the whole family. And that's why this cute novel by the Fifth and Laila in the form of an mb fanservice really came to me. Because otherwise, the plot has been sucked out of my finger for a long time. As well as the motives of the heroes' actions.
P.S. I don't understand why his character was rewritten to please Page. The hero did not have the same path as the actor. It looks so-so. Well, in principle, the entire character's arch was merged to the end.
In principle, I am happy with the ending. There are no very stupid super heroes - no problem. We were shown that there will be no super happy end if they are left without strength. And it's hard to believe that everything could be very good for everyone.
p.p.s. of course, if you find fault, then I don't understand why I self-released these versions, destroyed all the other branches and erased them from history, in principle. I thought they would go at the moment when their mothers got pregnant, prevent the spread of Mary gold, and then time itself would erase all other branches and themselves. And here it is already possible to show how they were born ordinary people and lived some kind of their lives separately or something brought them together
Despite the fact that the ending is generally logical, the question remains: what was the point of it then? Why shoot as many as 4 seasons, so that in the end you can say " everything should have ended on the first"? It is this "incomprehensibility" personally, in my opinion, adds a huge disadvantage. Such an interesting storyline, wonderful actors, well-written characters, all this... it turns out it was in vain. And what the authors hoped for when they simply zeroed out their own work. I would have understood more if the characters had stayed alive. By the way, the third season ends much better, everyone went their own way, the super powers disappeared from the world, there were no those who created the end of the world, therefore the world did not need to be saved. But... We have what we have.
Despite the merged ending, the series deserves attention anyway, it was interesting to watch the characters. But I'm definitely not going to review it, because what's the point? All this should not have happened..)
Well, it's a pity a little.
I mean, yes, by the end of the second season, it became clear that the way they save the universe, it would be better not to save it. But still, the option of "let's stand and wait for the monster to devour us" is somehow, well...
why couldn't Victor, who was trying to pull durango out of Ben, pull Marigold out of them all into a jar and just give it to Ben? Why couldn't he take Marigold for himself and heroically devour the monster, canceling all those apocalypses that he caused himself, like a White Violin? It would make a good character arch from "I'll kill you all" to "I'll save you all."
Why did the children of the characters survive? Why was the awkward arc of the Fifth novel with Lila necessary? Why was Lila's drama with Diego if it wasn't really resolved, except for "well, we're all going to die, let's make up"? Why was there a big part of this season at all? Why were they all so ugly? What did Hagreaves' wife want anyway? Why couldn't Marigold have been shoved into someone else/someone else and pushed against Jennifer?
There are more questions than answers.
The second episode was good and in the spirit of previous seasons. The rest... Why?
"Personal dramas" look strained and artificial in most cases, like Victor's showdown with the folder, Klaus's with his sister, and the rest.
Okay, it's just a series. Someday I won't exist either.
Aidan Gallagher grew up with an unreal crash, even with this hairstyle
Now I'm going to read the comments.
They have become ordinary, they live on.
But the screenwriters were abruptly forced to kill them....
And the method chosen is disgusting ((((
7 years in the subway, within 5 minutes of screen time - why do you need it at all?!
And the couple Leila and the Fifth, like Rachel and Joey in Friends, are not at all ale.
Thank you for your opinion.
That's where I think the presentations are over - everything else is done well and how the final finale fits. My verdict is 8 pet monkeys out of 10 (-1 for the strange and out of nowhere love story of Laila and the fifth, -1 for Vanya's weak game and for his weakness as a character. The original conflict between father and daughter became a conflict between father and son)
And also: why would Victor become a strong male character? Where is it written that this is some kind of prerequisite or consequence of a trans transition? Vanya's/Victor's is quite a logical and well-prescribed arch, into which it was possible to organically fit a trance transition that was not there initially. It paralleled well with the main story of the character.
It's like everything and nothing at once..
The character of the characters has changed a lot..
It seems clear why: everyone lived their lives for 5 whole years, but still..
An inappropriate love line (or rather the characters themselves ...)
About what happened at the end of 3, everyone has already forgotten..
In general, I am disappointed this season
The last season was very boring and the new love line is disgusting.
Who is Alice/crossed out/Jennifer? Where did she come from?! (except that of squid)
And what is a sweep? (other translations have a different word)
a sweep, just the destruction of everything except the main timeline
The drama with Laila for me personally was the motivation to watch the last couple of episodes))
Plus sign for a good mood in the moments with Klaus and "Can I fly?!" (in Misfits, Nathan tried to find out what kind of ability he had and jumped off a chaise longue :DD) and Fifth, as I called him, (Rick's advice, hello), screamed notably.
Stepping aside - well, it's good that it's over, it's quite logical and reasonable. If you don't want a time loop, keep the balance/ execute the key event /don't break the chronology/DON'T RAISE THE DEAD. Thank you for softening the line with Laila and the Fifth a little.
Vanya.. Did you feel like a stranger all the seasons, only to say in the end that this is still his place? Oyoru.
It's impossible to watch the burden, it's very boring, the last episodes have just been destroyed by accelerating
the characters, scoring on their development, they poured into the trash all the lines that were in previous seasons
and in fact something happens all season, but in fact nothing affects anything at all
Laila and the Fifth CHIIGOO IT WAS LIKE THAT, WHY am I
silent about the main message of the finale at
all? I think it would be better to forget that the 4th season was and stop at the 3rd
, although it is also not so good, but compared to this it is just a masterpiece + the ending with an open ending is much better than this
There are holes, there are flaws, but I really liked it. And yes, I liked the line of the Fifth and Layla too. Well, I understand how this could happen, of course it is not clear why the writers decided to develop this line at all literally in the last episodes. But what has been done has already been done. The actors played well, I saw their other softer sides and I didn't have a strong rejection. And thank you for not just making this branch, as it happens. Although, well, they were blinded, but at least you understand why it happened to them, you can even say logically. But that's my opinion.... And the nagging with age.. Well, there's Jason Statham, in general, his wife is 20 years older, and these are real people. And they don't yell oh, how come he's older than her. And here the Fifth is no longer 13-15 years old externally, but everyone equates it to the first season. And they have kamon in this world, every day, the apocalypse. Alison was losing her daughter, then gaining. And you can understand Lila, a murderer with his rather intense past, becoming a mom and a housewife, and very naturally showed how difficult it is for such a person. Like Diego, I was rushing around, I want to go to the CIA, then life sucks. Because, well, they are not used to such a simple family life. And Laila just wanted to feel like herself again, I think it was regarded as a little adventure and adrenaline, but it turned out differently.
With Ben, of course, they got smart, and Klaus, in general, well, even with him, they also got smart. The season itself is weird, but thanks for finishing.
And if all the bearers of the merigold sacrifice themselves, then it doesn't matter where the rest of the people are. It would be another matter if she tried to thwart their plan by running away and they had to fight her in pursuit, but no. We just wasted our time.
Oh, and the line with Klaus didn't lead to anything. What's the point of his trying not to drink sake if he didn't experience any problems with his strength afterwards. What's the point of a drug dealer and money in a cemetery if it affects the ending. Klaus loved the family in the beginning - Klaus loves it in the end, nothing has changed from what happened.
The feeling of the season is very cheerful, the team knows how to shoot, but does not know about what.
I haven't read comics, I'm not a fan of the series itself, I just read about some kind of connection with chemical brothers. Therefore, I don't remember much from previous seasons (like about the wife of the first, about the foreign origin of the father, and so on, thanks to local commentators for the reminders), except for the general feeling of eternal pizdets and warmth to the family itself.
Thank you that there was little eternal suffering from Victor, but you can do even less, as if he alone suffered from the actions of the "father".
When Klaus was buried, the music from Misfits started playing in his head. But the character himself this season wasn't as weird as usual.
I really liked the line with Laila and the Fifth, I love everything about timelines. The only thing is that the suffering for the children was not shown to us, so her main motivation to return back was not disclosed to me.
And the Fifth one is still a sweetheart, I really like this old man in a teenage body.
I also thought that for some reason the characters don't age at all. They lived for an average of 6 years in each new timeline. By the last season, it has already been + 12 years at least (and Laila has another plus 7). And they're still the same, only with a sad look in their eyes.
But of course I admire them, so many times it's easy to start from the beginning. Who could, but still.
I watched it in one gulp, all seasons in a row. And still some points remained unclear, unsolved. Others seemed superfluous and, in principle, unnecessary.
I liked the idea of the metro and temporary branches. Very confusing and intriguing throughout all six episodes.
Honestly, I was crying at the moment when the whole family was standing in a circle, summoning their powers. It's a pity to part with these weirdos.
As for the final. It seems like everything is logical, but children don't fit into this logic. Well, nothing at all.
PS: Thanks to this series for my new love - Aidan Gallagher! An incredible actor, whose character it's just impossible not to fall in love with!!!!
P.P.S.: but I started watching this series because of Skien))) I didn't let you down, curly!
The Fifth's love for Laila is such nonsense!
It's like with Game of Thrones - the adaptation ran ahead from the original source.
But it was in AA that I, in the place of the author, would not kill the heroes. At least, not all of them. There were comments somewhere that the White Violin could take the whole Marigold for itself and sacrifice itself so that the rest would live. Only the motivation is still to be prescribed. Well, something like that 🫠
it was nice to see the photos from the shooting, but it seems to me, or has the adult Vanya never been shown? as if it's unfair to the character... in general, the season left some kind of strange aftertaste of sadness and meaninglessness of everything.
5 the best😍
Thanks to the directors for the fact that we managed to see him grow up!
I was waiting for the arguments of many points, but apparently the screenwriters themselves scored to work through
The first two seasons turned out well
I'm not talking about the visual or the acting (for the most part, well done), there are scenario holes
So most of the project team did it!)
When you get into plots with time and space, you need to understand all the conditions 100 percent, the authors seem to have failed, or maybe I'm stupid.
The season started very well, it's a little disappointing for the final. It is not clear what all of them were leading to. All the storylines of all the characters are merged
I wasn't a fan of this series, but the last episode touched me. It's so sad to say goodbye to this family.
This season turned out to be much more interesting than the third, as for me
I remember that the first season evoked very positive emotions in me. Bright characters, an interesting and confusing plot, stylish visual ...
The second season was also good, albeit weaker. The third season has completely faded from my memory, and the fourth is a faded something.
It's a shame that everything is so deflated.
The mannequin was better than that
Anyway, the rest of the characters haven't gone very far.
I will review the first three seasons and never review the fourth.
In general, a broken heart and no joy from watching (
It was very interesting to watch the series in some places, but it's not about explanations or answers to questions. That really messed up the assessment. It's like every season is about sorting out ideas and dismissing the previous ones.
The ending is reminiscent of the Dark Beginnings.
But somehow I don't even care about such a conclusion. It's over and it's okay.
The season was ruined by the fact that the series decided to take care of the real-life problems of one character behind the scenes, at the expense of other characters and the overall story.
It was possible to finish the second season.
The beginning of this season turned out much better than the finale.
The fifth one is always a crash, but his line with Laila is so vague
I hope the gif from the dance battle with Sparrow Academy is still in my savings somewhere)
If Hargreaves' wife only appeared in this timeline, then where did Jennifer come from during the very first season? After all, if you believe the information from this season, Hargreaves erased the memory of killing Ben just because of a meeting with Jen. To loop, they looped, but they didn't think about the fact that it turned out crookedly. Hurtful.
The super strange line of Laila and the Fifth - why it was needed is still not clear. It leads to nothing but disappointment and whining of the characters. Well, it's clear that the actor is growing up and all that, but we could have played it somehow, otherwise he grew up over the seasons, and in 7 years on the subway none of the actors changed a bit, which is wildly strange (considering that when the Fifth was sitting in the apocalypse, he normally aged like that). In short, either they always don't change, or they always change - and it turned out that they change only when it's convenient for the scriptwriters.
Overall, the season is weak. But the end just broke the bottom. The characters are like, "Why couldn't we save the world from the apocalypse, it's all because of us. Let's kill ourselves and it's over"=)) And it's over, really =) The catch is, why couldn't they come to this sooner?) Because the ending, it seems, and the reason for the apocalypses, were invented only in the last season, scoring the first four. I'm very, very disappointed. I had a favorite TV show, but it was leaked.
The season itself as a whole is very different from the previous ones, there are more bloody scenes, I don't know who was responsible for this or why they decided that, it's just that they hadn't done it in such a large number before. But they brought back the classic dangerous killers, which were not in season 3, although only in the first half of the season there was tension and danger emanating from them, and then it was not the same, and in general the first 3 episodes seemed to be the most action-packed, then the narrative was already calmly going on.
Grace, one of my favorite characters, was missing this season, although I can't really think on what basis she could exist in the setting of this season.
I like the return of Baby Shark short, otherwise I started to forget one of the business cards of those very action-packed episodes from the beginning of the season.
All sorts of romantic and family lines didn't really catch on, but it was in the final episode that they still worked, in terms of showing what it meant to the characters, especially at the end of the series, and even emotions began to appear for the characters. In the end, of course.. Completion, the universe without them.. And at the same time, the last moments with minor characters from previous seasons.. I didn't recognize or remember all of them, but many of them were very well done in this regard, and also for such a track.. In general, as I said at the very beginning, I was in tears at the end.
(in theory, the Fifth One could have stayed there with his versions, found someone, it would have been interesting, but I think the very fact that they are going there is that one of them did just that)
I'm glad I watched the show, even though I wouldn't have lost much if I hadn't started watching. But he still left warm feelings in my soul. 🫶
It's a pity that the First and Allison weren't together, as they should have been in the first season.
In general, it was possible to shorten the season, the most interesting thing was still in the last two or three episodes. Before that, I was thinking of leaving halfway. Although by the end I didn 't really understand what was why and why 😅
With each season, the dope that the scriptwriters would buy became stronger 😄
The fifth has grown into an incredibly handsome man.🥰
We don't know his name, do we? Or was he still called during all the seasons? I'll assume that his name is Max, based on the name of the diner))
7/10
They are an anomaly, originally they should not have existed at all, they appeared only thanks to the released particles from the jar.
Back in the second season, not knowing how the 4th would end, when they were wondering "how to prevent another apocalypse?", I replied to the monitor, "you must all die," and in the end it turned out that way, well, this is really the most correct and logical conclusion.
In almost all TV series / movies, problems related to time travel and parallel universes are solved by the death of the one/ those who travel and create them - well, this is the base.
It was sad to say goodbye..
I really liked this quirky family!
I agree with the comments that the ending is quite logical. Yes, it was possible to come up with something better, the guys from above threw cool options, but it is what it is
I would also note the illogic that Laila's family and Allison's daughter exist, although they themselves never existed. Well, how can I explain this? Well how? Then a thought just popped into my head: don't think and don't analyze
I loved the tandem of Laila and the Fifth, but their love line brought nothing but disgust. Laila did a nasty thing: she was hitting on him, which is as obvious as possible, and then: The Fifth! I have children! Husband! How would... what?
It's mean and ugly. I played a kid who fell in love with a real person for the first time. Well, again. We don't think or analyze
I want to mention Aidan's performance. He is very impressed with the character, as a man, he is very good, he showed himself in a great light. Respect for many things
Klaus is my little sweetheart, full of love and chill. Adore.
Thank you for somehow trying to resuscitate Allison, otherwise she was too much talked into in the previous season. I still don't understand where Ray went, for whom there was all the fuss.
This season, Diego was almost able to talk, but my love was not broken. Thank you for opening up Luther a bit. It's sad that Sloane was brought out. They were cute.
I didn't expect anything else from Ben Sparrow. I hoped to the last that Umbrella was somewhere nearby (post-credits scene in episode 1)
Dad Hargreaves is such an asshole, but he's a great guy. There are still questions with Abigail: what, kavo, where. In general, there is a question for both of them: who are you anyway?
I'll just keep quiet about Jennifer and Vanya (aka Victor), so as not to spit poison here.
Thanks for the interesting incarnation of Gerard's comics. Bright characters. Jer, thanks for the story. Thank you for not giving up, even though you were told you couldn't draw and needed to quit. I haven't read the comic and I don't think I will, but the series definitely took its place there, under the ribs. Thanks ♥️