s04e01 - The Unbearable Tragedy of Getting What You Want
s04e02 - Jean and Gene
s04e03 - The Squid and the Girl
s04e04 - The Cleanse
s04e05 - Six Years, Five Months, and Two Days
s04e06 - End of the Beginning
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al_topchiy
PRO
08 Aug 15:11 # Show original
Goodbye best family
Nmart17_
11 Aug 23:36 # Show original
@al_topchiy: and why without Klaus on 4?(
PlanePassenger
11 Aug 23:40 # Show original
@Nmart17_: The first one accidentally sat on it
Hidji
12 Aug 05:23 # Show original
@Nmart17_: it's cut off from the bottom. On the poster lies in front of the bench.
vSeregaSv
22 Aug 22:22 # Show original
How Paige has changed in five years!
arahant
07 Sep 07:20 # Show original
@vSeregaSv: matured
poisoncobra15
08 Aug 15:34 # Show original
cool ending
MadilynGrace
08 Aug 16:18 # Show original
I'm opening a support group for everyone who watched it. God, what a bad ending, only Elliot Page took it out for me.
-Holycow-
09 Aug 07:42 # Show original
@MadilynGrace: For me, Elliot just came to the fore and pushed everyone else aside, but in terms of relevance and integrity of the overall picture, he is also unproductive with all his might)
domenikk22
24 Aug 13:40 # Show original
Let's push another agenda with misunderstandings, yeah
MadilynGrace
26 Aug 13:52 # Show original
@domenikk22: and now learn to look and analyze from a scenario point of view, and not queerphobia. Victor's line made absolute sense, given the character's background and his development in seasons 1-2. and that's exactly why she's one of the best in 4 (well, the rest was too bad). the man finally began to live a life that he was happy with, and then he was dragged back into family squabbles. and it is absolutely logical why he wanted to save Ben until the very end, this is the most natural growth of the character.
Blah, blah, it doesn't make sense to make Victor transgender. He literally spent his whole life on ability blockers and being under the suggestion of Allison that he was ordinary (wow, can this also inspire cisgenderism???). Victor literally spends season 1 and 2 in an identity crisis and finally comes to harmony with himself in season 3. Once again, it MAKES SENSE
Eugen_Glau
30 Aug 17:41 # Show original
In general, it is unclear what he took out (la). In recent episodes, they tried to impose the importance of the character, mostly because of the agenda, but there were no actions other than "persuade". As a result, everything was reduced to a donation, absolutely shitting on all other seasons. I've seen a lot of merged finals, and this one is one of the favorites, so much so that it's safe to go into the furnace🔥👍
arahant
07 Sep 07:23 # Show original
@MadilynGrace: What did he take out there? The whole season passed with one expression on his face. All he did was stand with his mouth open next to someone in every scene.
sad_targaryen
PRO
08 Aug 17:03 # Show original
well such
dearmarie
08 Aug 17:16 # Show original
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anastasiaazza
08 Aug 18:39 # Show original
The scene after the credits 💔 This series just killed me
LUXEON
Yesterday, 00:15 # Show original
@anastasiaazza: Damn, thanks, otherwise I would have missed it.
dgf31
08 Aug 19:04 # Show original
Thank you to Umbrella Academy for Aidan Gallagher, Rita Arya, Elliot page and Justin Hong-Ki-Min.
Adrasteya
10 Aug 12:13 # Show original
@dgf31: Robert Sheehan.
myatezhka
15 Aug 00:36 # Show original
@Adrasteya: thanks for Robert's discovery Misfits ❤ Thank you to the Academy for lighting his star again
Adrasteya
15 Aug 10:20 # Show original
@myatezhka: That's how Paige was known long before Umbrella. Lollipop, Juno, The Beginning. After Nolan, she has the status of a star here in general. Her name is the first one in the credits.
-Holycow-
15 Aug 11:16 # Show original
@Adrasteya: technically, this is Elliot's debut and unlike Helen, it will be much more difficult for him to get the same status
Кепка_Марка
17 Sep 08:25 # Show original
@Adrasteya: Yes, I just watched it because of him.
Shooky
08 Aug 19:42 # Show original
Not wow, but thanks for finishing.. The laser from the eyes has not been explained, as well as many other questions from different seasons.
In general, if we look at it, it turned out to be a pretty good story.
The scene after the credits really came out touching, only the flowers of the tree remained from the eight, well, at least something)
ogo_o
15 Aug 11:12 # Show original
@Shooky: and the wife of the First One was generally beaten, as if she had never existed)
Shooky
15 Aug 15:05 # Show original
@ogo_o: he also had a wife with their powers in another universe (I may be wrong, I almost don't remember her anymore), so, in principle, it is logical that there is no mention of her here (although they could, knowing what a whiner Luther sometimes is)
ulquiorrashipher
26 Aug 11:38 # Show original
@Shooky: Can you tell me what kind of wife? Was it just in the comics? I don't remember this in the series ((
Shooky
26 Aug 11:42 # Show original
@ulquiorrashipher: Last season, Umbrella met with another academy (the cube was still flying there), and Luther's wife was from this academy. I hope I explained it clearly
Yoxwill
28 Aug 00:40 # Show original
@Shooky: So is Ben from another universe
Shooky
28 Aug 08:46 # Show original
@Yoxwill: here I am inclined to believe that Ben is from their universe, because they restarted their universe (thereby creating another parallel one), so Ben is native and returned. I do not undertake to assert the truth, but I see it this way)))
child_bluda
28 Aug 08:58 # Show original
@Shooky: if this asshole Ben (no offense) is from our universe, then I like him better dead.
Shooky
28 Aug 09:04 # Show original
@child_bluda: Similarly 🤝 😁
zyyfff
28 Aug 13:31 # Show original
@Shooky: It's definitely NOT Ben from our universe. In the first episode (it seems) of the same season, he says that Umbrella is not his family, he is from Sparrow, and his family is no more 🤷🏻♀️
Adrasteya
29 Aug 13:50 # Show original
@Shooky: how is it not when he remembers her and regrets that she is not in this version?
Penis_Vocabular
10 Sep 18:52 # Show original
@Shooky: No, he's from the second universe, with a cube. He's talked about it many times.
g1452132
31 Aug 00:34 # Show original
@Shooky: about the laser from the eyes. I thought she was copying the child's abilities. But in 7 years on the subway, she never gave birth. In general, their abilities changed after the rebooted universe.
aiatlt
08 Aug 20:45 # Show original
MDA the end of the series, of course such itself, very unclear season
andi
08 Aug 21:48 # Show original
I usually don't mind ending in the style of "we are the main problem, if we don't, everything will be fine for everyone", but something has let me down, as for me.
And how are their children alive if they are not in the original timeline?
-Holycow-
09 Aug 07:44 # Show original
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Zy4
09 Aug 15:17 #
@-Holycow-: лол
ssusiha
09 Aug 08:48 # Show original
@andi: Yes!!! it took me a long time to get used to the rules of time travel, watching Marvel. as a result, I realized everything in half with grief. and then there are such jokes with children))))) IT WAS HARD ENOUGH FOR ME, DON'T BREAK MY BRAIN AND IDEAS ABOUT TIME
-Holycow-
09 Aug 08:58 # Show original
@ssusiha: Do you know how you could fix the ending? Victor could have sucked the merigold out of everyone, sacrificed himself and sent everyone to the subway and happy ending, and then there would have been no questions for Victor, but of course it would be better to make sure that, in principle, there was nothing and the story had no meaning... Oh damn) And children don't care what's going on with their parents, what are you worried about)
ssusiha
09 Aug 09:03 # Show original
@-Holycow-: I honestly thought that this would happen: they would somehow destroy Marigold and live a normal life without the possibility of destroying the world :(
it's corny, simple, but happy and in general, life has not been lived in vain, we have achieved balance and deserve a normal life
Adrasteya
10 Aug 12:15 # Show original
@ssusiha: we were shown at the beginning that they do not know how to play normal life, alas.
-Holycow-
10 Aug 12:55 # Show original
@Adrasteya: awesome message to all informals turned out)
Adrasteya
10 Aug 15:29 # Show original
@-Holycow-: and what does it have to do with informals? It is difficult for people who grew up in dysfunctional families to build healthy relationships. That's what psychotherapy was invented for, by the way. It's only fun to watch it in TV shows. And real life is not so fun, alas.
Nonelementary
10 Aug 16:11 # Show original
@Adrasteya: Well, not everyone can't. Allison was successful in all universes, although she started life from scratch three times. In the original she was a superstar, in the 60s she lived happily married with a wonderful husband, this season she lived in a beautiful house with a loving daughter and had a stable job (albeit less famous), she also pulled her brother around her neck. And Klaus would have kept himself well tied up, if only his dibilistic family hadn't egged him on. He even threw sake over his shoulder when caring relatives shoved a glass under his nose. I was really proud of him at that moment. But when the whole brain is burned by drugs and alcohol, it's hard to find any joy in normal life, and nevertheless he tried
-Holycow-
10 Aug 16:29 # Show original
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tsumi735
10 Aug 20:27 # Show original
I thought about it too!! It was possible to beat it somehow, so that it would not be so sad :(
Кайла
12 Aug 12:39 # Show original
@ssusiha: in fact, if you had initially thrown the whole bottle at Jennifer, nothing would have happened...
-Holycow-
12 Aug 12:48 # Show original
@Kayla: Yes, by the way, for 6 years Abigail frostbitten (and if you can somehow pull an owl on the globe and say that she needed Ben as a magnet to find Jen, then fuck the rest), and then all the stars came together and she killed all the hares at once. Evil has won, hooray)
Кайла
12 Aug 14:18 # Show original
@-Holycow-: Yeah it's a strange story
TessaDS
18 Aug 09:45 # Show original
@Adrasteya: and what do they not know how to do that ordinary people do not live with? Yes, they didn't live perfectly, but this is an ordinary life, and you don't have to be a superhero with marigold in your blood for problems.
Adrasteya
18 Aug 18:51 # Show original
@TessaDS: And who said anything about skills? They are bored. The fifth got into the CIA, Diego was being driven, Luther was noticeably depressed, Klaus caught the GTR, Victor got his hands on it, Alison was never able to establish family relations.
dkarnov
24 Aug 22:15 # Show original
@ssusiha: It's so simple, there are no rules for time travel, because it wasn't time travel. There is a problem with the marigold, which gives strength, they removed it, the children took the subway to the main world, the worlds were erased.
ssusiha
25 Aug 01:40 # Show original
@dkarnov: of course, I didn't look very closely, but I thought they would completely disappear. as I understood it, they were not only supposed to be forgotten (like Peter Parker, for example), but in general they will not be in all times, spaces, lines. that is, they were never born, there were no consequences because of them, which means that their children never existed. therefore, I do not understand how the children survived and did not disappear.
Hidji
25 Aug 03:54 # Show original
@ssusiha: moreover, even the reality, judging by the conversations, should remain only one, because the rest appeared precisely because of them. A bunch of Fifths in the office talked about this effect.
ssusiha
25 Aug 10:05 # Show original
@Hidji: Yes, yes! it turns out that our dream team disappeared, which means that no other time lines ever existed, which means that children were never born, because there is nothing but the original single line, and there was never
Eugen_Glau
30 Aug 17:45 # Show original
In! Something reasonable! Otherwise, show the importance of the character at the end and then reduce everything to self-sacrifice. Then why waste time on the whole season?🐕💨
unicorn_Ria
08 Aug 22:21 # Show original
Yeah, how bad is this season compared to the previous ones. I was immediately alerted that instead of the usual 10-episode format, only 6 came out and for good reason. Instead of closing the issues and conflicts remaining after last season, they decided to write the absolutely idiotic line of Laila and the Fifth. Umbrella Academy has always been about the Hargreaves family, and it seems like the ending is obvious because whatever they do, everything always leads to the inevitable apocalypse, but the way the season brought us to this looks very sloppy. How many impressions were left from previous seasons and how empty this finale seems.
-Holycow-
09 Aug 07:47 # Show original
@unicorn_Ria: well, everyone was warned that the consequences of the strike would be) But the confidence of the showrunners will always be amazed that the product has turned out and it can be thrown off to the crowd no matter what, i.e. neither reschedule nor cancel, just throw it away and forget)
Adrasteya
10 Aug 12:17 # Show original
@-Holycow-: So simple is expensive, cancellation, in general, too. The money has been invested, so now.
-Holycow-
10 Aug 12:53 # Show original
@Adrasteya: to give a shit to the fans is priceless)
Adrasteya
10 Aug 15:30 # Show original
@-Holycow-: to think that a movie is being shot for you - I would like at least 5% of such conceit.
Nonelementary
10 Aug 16:19 # Show original
@Adrasteya: and what does conceit have to do with it? who do you think the series is being filmed for, if not for viewers of the streaming service who pay for a subscription? personally, I did not pay for watching, the bazaar is zero, but the commentator above was not talking about himself personally, but about the fans and the crowd in general. Wasn't the series filmed for them?
And about the cancellation of shitty projects, we also know such precedents — for example, Batgirl.
-Holycow-
10 Aug 16:38 # Show original
@Adrasteya: Yes, you're all right with that, don't be modest. I'll tell you a big secret - the movie is being shot for those who will watch it. And in an ideal world, movies were shot so that the audience was satisfied with watching, now this dogma is being broken, but as a rule, viewers cannot yet be extracted from this process.
pohititel_teney
10 Aug 22:59 # Show original
@-Holycow-: What kind of strike is this?
-Holycow-
10 Aug 23:14 # Show original
@pohititel_teney: about a year ago, the greedy rich got tired of paying pennies to texters and they decided to replace the entire staff with a jpiti chat, But the chat can't write breaking bad yet, but writes something similar to this season, so it was decided to increase the salary of people for the time being. While the strike was going on, no one was working and some projects were postponed, which they didn't care about, and some were injured...
Adrasteya
11 Aug 02:11 # Show original
@Nonelementary: people make movies because they are interested in transferring their ideas to the screen. And they do it initially for their loved ones. Studios and streaming companies give projects the green light if they think they can make money on it. They do it for the money. And they calculate the target audience solely for the purpose of cutting down more money. And when they begin to focus on viewers and fans, movies and TV series turn into factories for stamping remakes and sequels, serials of 100,500 seasons and other chewing gum, often stuffed with fanservice, meaningless and merciless. You need to shoot for yourself, so that you like it yourself, and not try to meet the expectations of those who are sitting at the screen.
-Holycow-
11 Aug 07:05 # Show original
@Adrasteya: You should have put things in order in your head or something. Are they making movies for themselves? This is the most idiotic idea you could come up with, congratulations)
Nonelementary
11 Aug 10:22 # Show original
@Adrasteya: Yeah, awesome) I'm interested in putting my ideas on the screen, can you give me a couple million dollars? Well, I'm just wondering, I want to take it off for myself, but not for my money, yes, that's how it works) I'll tell you a secret, there is usually a whole staff of screenwriters and a director working on projects, who are just hired workers. All they want is to get a po and try (and not always) not to make shit and not to ruin their career with a shitty project.
The way you think you should do it and the way they actually do it are different things. If the series lives for 100,500 seasons, as you write, then this is a successful series that the audience watches and which brings money. And they will stuff the fanservice there — just to keep watching. The quality of a product does not necessarily correlate with its profitability. Sometimes shit can be super profitable and popular. Are Marvel films masterpieces of world cinema? It turns out that targeting fans is more effective in terms of doing business? Oh, we didn't think so. Congratulations, you've fucked up your own argument.
Enchantresss
PRO
11 Aug 10:53 # Show original
@Adrasteya: First of all, people want to eat and live on something.
Not all Kevin Costners with their Horizons or Francis Ford Coppola with Megalopolis, who at their advanced age can finally shoot something for themselves for their own money.
Adrasteya
11 Aug 11:53 # Show original
@Nonelementary: and what's the point of repeating what I wrote and yelling that it's not an argument? Do you even understand how a movie is made? That it all starts with the idea that the script is being written on, and then they are looking for funding and those who want to participate in this case. And in order to get a good product at the exit, in this process there should be no thoughts about how much the audience will like it. Because when such thoughts appear, the authors stop taking risks and start shooting shit. And 100,500 seasons of TV shows appear not because it's all 100,500 fucking seasons, but because the first ones were cool, people got attached to the characters and are ready to spit and yell for a while, but watch it anyway. And pay the loot, for which they stamp out all sorts of shit in such quantities. No one shoots 100,500 seasons with the thought "oh, they like it so much, let's shoot another season, otherwise they'll be upset that the series is over." And the last 2 seasons of Umbrella are proof of that.
-Holycow-
11 Aug 11:53 # Show original
@Enchantresss: they shoot weddings and anniversaries for themselves. Movies are also shot with their own money not for themselves, it's just that its production is much easier to coordinate and organize, well, it's not even necessary to bring it to cinemas, for yourself)
Adrasteya
11 Aug 11:58 # Show original
@Enchantresss: and that too. But we are talking about the quality of the product, which necessarily falls when they try to get more out of the project. Because creativity is beginning to be severely censored, so as not to take risks and not lose profit. And what the fans want in all this, no one cares at all.
-Holycow-
11 Aug 12:18 # Show original
@Adrasteya: The Velma project, for example, is not focused on either fans or people as a species. Therefore, this is a mega successful project that will live for centuries) Yes, none of the directors and screenwriters are focused on their potential audience. Very plausible)
Nonelementary
11 Aug 21:42 # Show original
@Adrasteya: define a good product. Isn't it a good one that went to the audience and was commercially successful? Or did the creators take it out for themselves, pat themselves on the head, wind up their nipples and decide for themselves that the project is good? He really didn't earn any money, but the main thing is that we like it ourselves. If not, then by what criterion do you judge the project's "goodness", if not according to the audience's opinion?
Do you understand how a movie is made? What you have described is the case of an enthusiast, an aspiring writer with a script in his hands, who hits the doorsteps of studios and shoots for pennies, like some Kevin Smith in his younger years. Do you think there are no examples when a studio buys the rights to books/ comics/remakes /reboots/biopics and already allocates a budget for this case and hires a group of screenwriters and directors? In your opinion, Umbrella is not such a case? Gerard Way, the author of the comic, did not direct any series and did not write a script for any of them. Is this an author's project in your opinion, which was made for the soul, and not for the audience? He may have written the comic for the soul, but the series is pure commerce, which was created for Netflix subscription owners. What is there to argue about, I really don't understand. To think that a movie is being shot for the audience is, it turns out, to have an ego. Holy shit. Well, apparently, for the glory of Satan, a movie is being shot and only for him, and here we are just mimic-coders, casually looking in with one eye
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
PRO
13 Aug 00:19 # Show original
@Nonelementary: sorry, but those films that are shot for the sake of art - you won't even watch them) movies and TV series are a successful commercial niche. The product is emotions, for which the viewer is willing to pay
Nonelementary
13 Aug 09:32 # Show original
@ИнтeрecныйФиллep: First of all, welcome to the battle of the psychics. Can you look into my head and tell me which movies I would and wouldn't watch?) Wow... if anything, here at myshous, I basically only mark the horrors, and not everything I've watched in a row.
Secondly, what is "cinema for the sake of art" and what do we include in this category? The concept is too broad. Are any Lanthimos or Trier being filmed for the sake of art, or are you lumping them together with Michael Bay? Well, their films also find their audience, just not the mass audience, and you can see their paintings in my list, too.
Thirdly, which take are you responding to? That's what I'm saying, that cinema is a commodity and a product. Even an author's movie is made in order to earn money or convey an idea — that is, it is simply impossible to make a movie not for the viewer who will watch it. What was not done for the audience and not for money lies somewhere on a shelf in Weinstein's personal collection, and we, mere mortals, will never see it.
kalamburja
08 Aug 22:53 # Show original
I really liked this series in the first seasons and even after a weak season 3, I was really looking forward to the finale. But how disappointed I am: (I absolutely do not understand why these episodes were needed, why they introduced this romantic line with the Fifth and Laila. The characters have not changed in all seasons, they have not come to anything. As they were in the first season, they still are. It's a pity that a good series was leaked in such a way.
KatrionaNova
13 Sep 11:27 # Show original
I agree, I should have stopped at 3. A better ending would be((
Vasiys
15 Sep 12:26 # Show original
@kalamburja: I support, it would be possible to finish the same way on season 3. I think we wouldn't be upset, since season 4 turned out to be very weak, the only thing that amused the whole season was the song about the Shark 🤣😂
IndieAme
PRO
08 Aug 23:03 # Show original
Ambivalent impressions of the finale. On the one hand, the beloved dysfunctional Hargreaves family will be terribly missed. On the other hand, this season is an outright hack. A crumpled, meaningless narrative that looks like a long promo video. It would have been better to finish on the third season: everyone lost their abilities and went to live their lives.
taylor_m
09 Aug 00:13 # Show original
I loved the atmosphere of the series so much, the characters, the wonderful soundtracks (although it's a little sad that not a single song of my chemical romance was added to the series, many of them would fit in well, and anyway, comic book creator Gerard Way has his own band in vain). It was really interesting to watch the events. Therefore, the end, a bunch of plot holes and an unnecessary romantic line between the Fifth and Laila just break your heart. If Allison's daughter and Lila and Diego's children, who simply shouldn't exist, fit into the only correct timeline, then why couldn't the main characters fit in there after they released their particles into "purification" and lost their strength ... In the promo for the season they promised that the end would be bittersweet, but somehow sweet I In short, I didn't really feel it.
And help me understand, if Klaus is immortal, why didn't he come to life for so many years during the first apocalypse, in which the Fifth was stuck?
Мистер_Голубь
09 Aug 00:50 # Show original
@taylor_m: an interesting question. I can suggest that he just didn't want to come back, because his whole family died with him and there was no reason to resurrect.
taylor_m
09 Aug 01:39 # Show original
It sounds logical, thank you) It's a pity that we left so many questions that could be closed with small dialogues between the characters
-Holycow-
09 Aug 07:53 # Show original
@taylor_m: Apparently, he became immortal only in season 4 in the rebooted world after using marigold, there are indecently many questions: for example, why did he stick around if the dead had already let him go, maybe he just had no reason to be different.
taylor_m
09 Aug 11:12 # Show original
In season 3, we were shown that Klaus was immortal when he was accidentally shot by his fake son Diego, and then Reginald, from a parallel development of events, trained his ability to quickly resurrect and we learned that before that Klaus was also dying, but he did not understand it himself. And to the question "why stick around again?" the most banal answer is because Klaus is a drug addict. And if we go deeper, we were not shown whether the ghosts released him + all the psychological traumas were clearly not worked out. And it would be better if he spent a year without Marigold on therapy than wrapping a room with a film with pimples
-Holycow-
09 Aug 11:51 # Show original
@taylor_m: I haven't reviewed the 3rd season, I don't remember this moment well... Well, what can I say, making a character invulnerable is a very clumsy hack
Denis_Arslanov
20 Aug 19:46 # Show original
In general, Klaus is like an NPC this season
Forces that are, that are not
It is not disclosed as much as possible, although it can probably be said about many people🧐
PlanePassenger
20 Aug 19:53 # Show original
@Denis_Arslanov: I agree, it has frozen in development, if it has not rolled back at all
titslikemetal
09 Aug 17:21 # Show original
@taylor_m: I really hoped that the series would premiere a new MCR song. But as I understand it, Gerard has distanced himself from the project.
-Holycow-
09 Aug 17:37 # Show original
@titslikemetal: Well, he would have made up a better story, I think. Although the comic was more chaotic than the first season, it could have been used for the story and finale of the whole show.
titslikemetal
09 Aug 17:44 # Show original
@-Holycow-: They didn't even call for a cameo. Gabriel Ba lit up, but Gerard didn't. Claire is holding a doll that looks like him....but it's more like I'm making it up for myself.
taylor_m
09 Aug 18:12 # Show original
Oh, yes, or at least a cover of his performance, as in the first season, or a cameo, but even all the photos with his participation in the credits are only from the first season. I didn't even notice the references, although maybe I was inattentive. With such success, it's a miracle that he lit up at the premiere
titslikemetal
09 Aug 18:30 # Show original
@titslikemetal: about the cancellation doll. There's a huge article on Easter eggs on Netflix and Blackman confirmed that it's him (
titslikemetal
09 Aug 18:35 # Show original
@taylor_m: only the name was mentioned in the first season, as a critic on the cover of Vanya's (Victor's) book.
I saw the photo, he looks so exhausted. I hope he's okay (
gkalian
10 Aug 00:00 # Show original
@titslikemetal: Yes, he still hasn't released the fourth volume, four years have passed since the announcement, but there is no news. What kind of participation is there in the new season.
Mayer_E
09 Aug 19:48 # Show original
@taylor_m: they shouldn't have been born, including Klaus, they didn't die, they just disappeared)
АленаСоколова
10 Aug 04:48 # Show original
@taylor_m: It may well be that his abilities were not so developed then, I don't know... He was taught immortality by his father in the 60s, if my memory serves me right.
Juullietta
09 Aug 00:29 # Show original
I'll miss them: (
Мистер_Голубь
09 Aug 00:45 # Show original
A few questions remain. I'll start with this whole subway. The time branches are parallel, as far as I understand. At the moment he entered, he left at the same time. Then why did Fifth and Laila live in one of the branches for a while and come back a few hours later? Did Reggie and Abigail kill two people and put on their skin, or did they create it for themselves? Why didn't Ben remember the cause of his death and tell Klaus all these years? Reginald couldn't erase his memory, only Klaus's. Therefore, after Reggie's death, he should have told me right away. Ray's actor refused to work on the final season, or why wasn't he there and the character just walked away from Allison? Sloane. The same question. I assumed Sloane's life was for Luther's, but Ray was resurrected...
The reactions of Klaus, Luther and Allison to the novel of the Fifth and Lila are something!
Lila's new power was never explained. Until the last moment, I thought that they would resolve the situation with the help of friendship magic or other stuff, and show that Gracie has a power - lasers. It didn't happen. Did you do it to do it?
Many moments could have been more epic. When the family arrived by car to the protesters, I thought that Allison would force them to disperse. It's not for nothing that her strength was pumped, but no.
I hoped to the last to the scene after the credits, where they would be shown that they are people and do not remember anything at least, but there are just Marigold flowers of the same name...
Again, I hoped to the last that they would join hands and their forces would merge and fix the chronology and rewrite reality. It's not for nothing that they have the strongest forces: reality, soul, space and time, energy.
But I am glad that they still successfully saved the world without the endless ends of the world...
I will miss the series and this strange family, despite their sometimes stupid or even infuriating actions.
It's sad that they didn't show the true faces of Abigail and Reginald.
taylor_m
09 Aug 01:47 # Show original
Maybe Ben didn't tell Klaus about his death because he didn't see that it was Reginald who fired, the same one was behind him.
Мистер_Голубь
09 Aug 02:19 # Show original
@taylor_m: In principle, it makes sense, but Klaus did not bring up this topic, because for Ben it could be unpleasant or just Reginald wrote it down in his memory. Ben, on the other hand, was called up after the erasure of memory and could not have known or even guessed about the possibility of manipulating memory.
-Holycow-
09 Aug 07:57 # Show original
@Mister_golub: is it illogical to ask why I'm actually dead after the first call?)
Мистер_Голубь
09 Aug 12:05 # Show original
@-Holycow-: I declare this a plot hole. Unless, of course, Reginald has a machine to change the ghost's memory.
-Holycow-
09 Aug 13:04 # Show original
@Mister Deep: in general, it's funny to erase the memory of children at the same time and develop Klaus' talent for communicating with the dead)) I've thought it all out, damn it)
Мистер_Голубь
09 Aug 14:07 # Show original
@-Holycow-: huh, the plot twist: Reginald himself got Klaus hooked on drugs to block the connection with Ben, because he was tired of constantly erasing the guy's memory because of conversations with Ben.
Nonelementary
09 Aug 18:01 # Show original
@Mister Deep: as I understand it, they lived for 6 years of the actual time they spent jumping between branches. Being on the same branch, the Fifth can jump within its time frame, as he usually does. So, for example, they moved to 2006, leaving on the same day at the station in 2024 and jumping into the past with the help of its power. It is even shown by the glow when the Fifth and Laila move in the subway, the glow is pink, and when it is just in time within the same branch, it is the usual blue.
Well, in short, they searched for the right branch for 6 years, found it, drove it to their reality in 2030 and moved back to 2024 — something like that. (well, or not at 30, whatever. The bottom line is that they have aged 6 years)
CharlesManson
12 Aug 00:19 # Show original
@Nonelementary: There is no 2030 in their reality, there is also an apocalypse with a soap monster.
Nonelementary
12 Aug 11:43 # Show original
@CharlesManson: So what? In reality, where the Fifth was stuck at the very beginning, the apocalypse also came from the destruction of the moon, but time did not stop running. We were not shown what the soap apocalypse with the Ben Jennifer monster looked like, but the Fifth and Laila had to run out into it to return home. We were only shown the transfer of the diary with the coordinates, and the next scene — they are already on the threshold of Diego's house. I do not dispute that everything is confused here. Explain then how they came back if the subway only moves between universes, but not in time. Or does the subway always move to August 8, 2024, no matter what year you boarded it? I don't remember it being labeled. If only by the appearance and age of the alternate Fifth in the post-fight. Then yes, it turns out which branch you don't sit on, you'll get to August 8th. Well, it doesn't change the essence. It turns out that they shied away for 6 years on the alternative 8th of August 2024
id1549480
23 Aug 19:55 # Show original
@Nonelementary: Didn't they jump into the past at the very beginning of this journey? The fifth one also took the newspaper to check the date. Their original plan was to go to reality, where the fifth can travel through time (a strange moment, I did not understand it), jump, and then return back to their reality in the past.
Nonelementary
23 Aug 22:27 # Show original
@id1549480: As far as I remember, they jumped to prevent Jennifer and Ben from meeting in 2006, but they didn't get into their universe, but where Sparrow and Umbrella's mix was. From that moment on, we got lost. And they can jump back and forth in time within the same universe as much as they want, they just lost their reality
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
PRO
13 Aug 00:37 # Show original
The funny thing is that you answered your own question. The subway always runs on the same day, but in alternative timelines. They couldn't come back for 7 years, they were just looking for their timeline. 7 years have passed for them, but when they arrive at their station, only a few hours have passed in their world. This is similar to what was shown in the TV series Loki - when our hero studied time for 10 thousand years and tried to prevent the apocalypse, and returned at the last moment, Loki was absent for only a few minutes for the heroes.
Ben did not remember his death, as his father shot him from behind, and he did not know who shot him. And the brothers and sisters were inspired by Reginald that Ben just died on a mission. It was elementary for them that there were no questions. That's why Klaus and Ben didn't discuss it.. The moment is reminiscent of the plot from Men in Black 4, when Chris Hemsworth's character does not remember how they defeated the Swarm.
But it's sad not even that they didn't show Abigail and Reginald's faces, but didn't reveal them.. Why are they on earth? What is the purpose of coming to our planet?
And in general, there are a lot of unanswered questions. Who built the alternative Oblivion Hotel, who built the universe restart machine, who built the subway)
zyyfff
19 Aug 09:57 # Show original
@ИнтeрecныйФиллep: I will answer some questions E and R are on Earth because their planet has perished. But only R was supposed to fly to it, since E died on her planet. As A explained, he simply should not have released Marigold in order to get his wife back in the end, but just spend the rest of his life here, then no branches of time branches would have appeared.
The hotel built a R around the portal in the relaunch, explained at the end of season 3. The restart of the universes itself has been there for centuries, apparently no one knew where it came from.
I'm just guessing about the subway, but there are so many of them that I won't even bring up this topic)
Kentavr
18 Aug 06:28 # Show original
@Mister Deep: >>returned a few hours later They returned at the same time, I guess, just judging by the costume of the Fifth, they also stopped to change and then drove to Lila's house. Here's just a couple of hours :D
But I'm most sorry that they didn't perform their traditional family dance. But for Tiffany – I Think We're Alone Now, thanks a lot to them, back to the beginning
id1549480
23 Aug 22:45 # Show original
@Mister Deep: and in the first episode of the first season, 43 children were born, and only they were enough here. Plus Klaus splashed this goo on the waiter.
Мистер_Голубь
23 Aug 23:32 # Show original
@id1549480: after restarting the universe, everyone lost their strength. Umbrella, Ben and Lila were able to regain their powers, thanks to the presence of an artifact from another timeline. Even if the waiter had gained strength (perhaps Marigold needed to be taken inside), the Cleaning would have reached him anyway.
Ps. If the waiter has gained strength, maybe his strength is the lasers from his eyes. And strengthening Laila's power allows her to copy forces at a greater distance, such as in one big city or in one country.
orranj
PRO
09 Sep 23:17 # Show original
@id1549480: damn, it seemed to me then that the goo got on Ben - and hence that pair of his tentacles, which did not get out in any way... like, this is an external manifestation of a slurry that was not taken inside)
nineath
09 Aug 02:15 # Show original
Well, the conclusion "we are the problem" is quite logical, it's even obvious... But I don't know the rest. At least, it's pretty crumpled.
rin_rin
09 Aug 02:50 # Show original
Oh, well, that's it.:(I'm going to miss the Hargreaves bunch, especially Klaus, he and his sparkling humor forewa in mai hart😪🫶🏼 To be honest, the season is average, compared to the previous three it has sunk significantly. In my opinion, season 1 was the most delicious, and this one was the least liked. And yet, it's a pity to say goodbye to the already beloved scumbag heroes. They left beautifully, but with a sadness…
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
PRO
13 Aug 00:39 # Show original
@rin_rin: it's better to end on a good note than, for example, the TV series Garbage, where Klaus also played an immortal) they took extra seasons that a good series just slipped... At least there's a solid plot here)
rin_rin
14 Aug 01:28 # Show original
Here, yes,I agree with you,because I couldn't watch "abandonment", the first two seasons are in my heart, and it didn't go any further🥲
id165383750
09 Aug 03:19 # Show original
I hate such sad endings of TV series. I demand a happy ending 😭
-Holycow-
09 Aug 05:44 # Show original
I don't have anything against Music, but why didn't the musical romance, otherwise it's not even clear why such a fuss)
Mayer_E
09 Aug 19:50 # Show original
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-Holycow-
09 Aug 20:57 # Show original
@Mayer_E: Well, it's a rhetorical question, but I'll answer it. The music of the creator of the worlds would be more appropriate for the signal for the last battle, and the muse song on the radio as a signal is a phone call instead of an alarm)
Mayer_E
09 Aug 20:59 # Show original
@-Holycow-: I'm not that good at it. 😅
Hidji
12 Aug 05:58 # Show original
@-Holycow-: but at the beginning of the series, before the vocals started, there was a light vibe of the screensaver of the Fatal Patrol). Just for a few seconds, but still.
-Holycow-
12 Aug 06:32 # Show original
@Hidji: Well, such an achievement)
Hidji
12 Aug 06:35 # Show original
@-Holycow-: Everything I could scrape together The finale ruined my whole mood from this night marathon of the season, I write on the remnants of emotions.
-Holycow-
12 Aug 06:58 # Show original
@Hidji: I also looked at it in one gulp, but if they released a series a month, they would have a chance that everyone would forget what happened in the last series and everything would work)
PlanePassenger
11 Aug 15:07 # Show original
@-Holycow-: Chemical. The trick is not to insert any song of any band, but to make it fit a specific moment. Well, Gerard is a big fan of them, so I don't see any contradictions))
-Holycow-
11 Aug 15:27 # Show original
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PlanePassenger
11 Aug 16:05 # Show original
@-Holycow-: read the lyrics of the song, everything seems to be on the surface.
@PlanePassenger: that is why it is difficult for you to formulate an answer. It seems strange to me to miss the opportunity to make a really important reference to the original source. The muse group in this place is at the level of a beybisharp in its relevance.
-Holycow-
11 Aug 16:13 # Show original
@PlanePassenger: thank you, it wasn't worth it, gramnats.
PlanePassenger
11 Aug 16:16 # Show original
@-Holycow-: it's not grammar, it's orthoepy))
-Holycow-
11 Aug 16:19 # Show original
@PlanePassenger: Don't worry, your humanitarian aid will come in handy somewhere.
PlanePassenger
11 Aug 16:25 # Show original
@-Holycow-: considering that Way has nothing to do with the ending itself, then the reference would look strange.
PlanePassenger
11 Aug 16:28 # Show original
@-Holycow-: the trailer had "The End", by the way. And if you use the same song in the trailer and the series, the time continuum will break, everyone knows that.
-Holycow-
11 Aug 16:48 # Show original
@PlanePassenger: And to the series, of course. The reference would look like a reference, whoever understood would understand. And the Music song on the radio as a signal for the keepers still looks very stupid, but there are words there, and this is an undeniable victory)
-Holycow-
11 Aug 16:49 # Show original
@PlanePassenger: It's good that he has more than one composition)
mofogirl
09 Aug 05:48 # Show original
Kate Walsh?)) Riley?) The season is cool. So much has been made up and the backstory has been shown, and confused a little bit. But, in principle, it was clear that if it weren't for them, then everything would go on and on as it should. It is very difficult to wait 2 years for a new season, I set the task for autumn - to watch all the seasons at once. Goodbye, umbrella. I'm going to miss you. PS - even somehow lousy Luther was looking for the love of his life, while his brother could jump on parallels, and in general (
-Holycow-
09 Aug 05:49 # Show original
And what could you just pile on the old man and he would do whatever he was asked to do? Why didn't they do it before?)
mofogirl
09 Aug 05:50 # Show original
@-Holycow-: they could have done a lot of things before))) but they didn't think of it))
-Holycow-
09 Aug 07:38 # Show original
Well, it didn't work out, it happens. A couple of episodes, at least the initial ones were done fine, but they scored for the final... A time loop in Raccoon City with the slogan "I was wrong, but you fixed it, my love") Sorry, sorry, sorry, but I won't miss you)
Hidji
12 Aug 06:01 # Show original
@-Holycow-: The 2nd and 3rd series were excellent. "Baby Shark" will generally be remembered for a long time😆 But further down the line, and the finale just brought down the whole impression.
TTOSS
09 Aug 07:59 # Show original
Mixed feelings. It's kind of messy, strange, but on a good note, as if. Very umbrella-style :D
Asqa_Enot
09 Aug 11:37 # Show original
At noon on the eighth of August 2024, absolutely nothing unusual happened, you can say it was just an ordinary day. 🌼
rogoyx
12 Aug 00:15 # Show original
@Asqa_Enot: Correction: 🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼
Paramelion
12 Aug 01:50 # Show original
@Asqa_Enot: This is about the new season of metairony
younbelieveable
09 Aug 12:15 # Show original
We started for health, finished for peace. Congratulations to all of us on finishing, so to speak. The worst season of the four, but at least it was nice to see this crazy family one more time, the very last one. I still don't understand why it was necessary to cram a love line between the Fifth and Lila in the end, which in the end led to nothing and taught nothing, but okay. Minus for the fact that there was not a single MyChem soundtrack, well, kamon, they put it in the trailer, they could have ended the series with some Last Famous Words, most of the viewers of the series came only because of Gerard, kamon. In general, the series turned out to be 50/50, of course I won't review it, but for a couple of cool moments throughout the action, like. Goodbye, Hargreaves ❤
-Holycow-
09 Aug 13:06 # Show original
@younbelieveable: thanks, I'll watch the trailer, at least I checked in somewhere)
unicornpower
09 Aug 15:06 # Show original
@younbelieveable: Yeah, Last Famous Words would be awesome to hear! I was just waiting in the second part of the last episode: with
unicornpower
09 Aug 15:09 # Show original
The relationship to the ending is about like that of Klaus: "I love you...But you're all such jerks!"
And the sensations are very crumpled. We watched-watched four seasons, but none of this happened :D
NatashCHa
09 Aug 16:11 # Show original
Hooray, nothing has changed in 4 seasons. Everyone is the same apocalypse, they behave the same way from season to season. They quarrel all the time. Only the background is different
Darzik
18 Aug 16:52 # Show original
That's how the ending says it - all variations follow the same scenario - you make the apocalypse and either save the world or not - as it goes. That's why the seasons are like this - the family somehow contributes to the apocalypse and tries to avoid it. It worked 3 times, but they didn't do it 4 times, thereby rebooting the whole reality.
Rendall
09 Aug 17:03 # Show original
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titslikemetal
09 Aug 17:27 # Show original
Overall, it's not a bad series. Great cast, cool picture, awesome soundtrack at the beginning. But... the screenwriters' strikes clearly did not pass by) I don't even want to count the number of plot holes and inconsistencies. We're done and it's okay.
Nonelementary
09 Aug 18:04 # Show original
Among the cameos at the end, a man without a beard and with a bicycle is Hazel, right? Baby, my favorite character. 😭 And what kind of baushka was with him? It's a pity Cha-chu wasn't shown
taylor_m
09 Aug 18:19 # Show original
Yes, it was Hazel and the doughnut girl from the first season. In general, it's funny how they stupidly shoved everyone into one park at one time, apparently changing locations in order to show that everyone is happy and living their lives when the Hargreaves family does not exist was very expensive and long
Mayer_E
09 Aug 19:57 # Show original
@taylor_m: they were stuffed not to save money, but for the fans, so that we all remember the minor characters
-Holycow-
09 Aug 20:59 # Show original
@Mayer_E: thank you, I didn't recognize any of them and thought they were stupid ordinary people of pre-retirement age who have a habit of visiting the park)
Mayer_E
09 Aug 21:00 # Show original
@-Holycow-: I'm not all of them either🤪
Hidji
12 Aug 06:13 # Show original
@-Holycow-: and a rhetorical question, is there a real Reggie without a mask among this crowd of people).
-Holycow-
12 Aug 06:37 # Show original
@Hidji: It's more non-rhetorical here - how Reggie's plan and his Zombie wife's plan work and what kind of story they had there in general and why she can create and destroy worlds, but he can't) Maybe just think about it, making a mistake, he created something really unique and good, but he was just beaten up like a boy and all his achievements were taken away)
Hidji
12 Aug 06:40 # Show original
@-Holycow-: behavior from the series "...and don't pee in my pot!". Well, an option, of course))).
VestaSB
09 Aug 18:34 # Show original
I'm sure the problem of a weak script is due to the writers' strike and it just killed everything. It would have been better if they had put the project on pause and finished it after the strike ended. maybe they wanted to, but netflix is obviously a greedy bastard who most likely wanted to quickly slap something and raise money, but this is just my guess why everything is so bad ehhh I loved this series very much and did not feel anything from the whole season except for a couple of moments that were fatly blocked by the kring line of the Fifth and Lila, because it would be possible to do everything not so straight and vanilla, it was so mediocre and cheap, it's just terrible that this finale can be put on one shelf next to season 8 of game of thrones
Mayer_E
09 Aug 19:52 # Show original
Everything is logical, in principle, there are no questions left, except for one, why did they never show Reginald's true face and could not figure out how he should look It's infuriating that they've all lived such a busy life, and in the end, bam, they just didn't exist🥺 I understand they couldn't have been born at all, in principle... But damn, it turns out that everything is useless, even if they are flowers now... and yes, it's strange that their children (who came from non-existent parents) stayed alive🤔 I liked that at the end they said yesterday's date of this year, how the creators prepared, they knew exactly when the series would be released 🔥 I love these guys endlessly and the series is still one of my favorites. 💙
rkypkz
09 Aug 20:10 # Show original
A very weak season, it would be better to close after 3. I remember that I really liked seasons 1 and 2, but I don't remember what was there except the apocalypse
-Holycow-
09 Aug 21:03 # Show original
@rkypkz: I would suggest closing after the 1st episode of the 3rd season, because the world with dancing instead of battles was cool, it's a pity that it turned out to be a dog's dream, and such potential was ... Eh
serialoman333
09 Aug 20:47 # Show original
The fifth and Laila.... From the very first episode, I assumed that this could happen, but not in all seriousness And in the end, I didn't understand why it was necessary to bring them together. Lila did a terrible thing, it's just a pity for the fifth and Diego. And the ending really upset me. I wanted a happy ending 😭😭😭
gizza28
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trefi
PRO
09 Aug 22:13 # Show original
as for me, if they did not exist, then their children should not be in the only reality
-Holycow-
09 Aug 22:24 # Show original
@trefi: they have a magic subway)
zyyfff
19 Aug 10:12 #
@-Holycow-: было)
rkypkz
09 Aug 22:19 # Show original
Many here justify the failure with a strike, but season 4 was filmed before. In general, I noticed that recently when the final season is announced on Netflix, it turns out to be just terrible, as if maybe they shouldn't extend it at all for the final one and immediately close it)
-Holycow-
09 Aug 22:31 # Show original
@rkypkz: Season 4 was completed during the strike period, and this is not the best time, you know. In the summer of 2023. It might not have worked out so well without a strike, but there is no need to mislead anyone.
rkypkz
09 Aug 22:35 #
@-Holycow-: Filming for the fourth season began on February 6, 2023, and concluded on May 31, 2023. Filming for the season was finished before the 2023 Writers Guild of America strike occurred. Все уже было прописано и написано, съемки подходили к концу
-Holycow-
09 Aug 23:20 # Show original
@rkypkz: So everything was fine and wonderful before the strike started? Well, about the accuracy of the beginning and completion, I would leave a little gap
tyoma_azov2022
09 Aug 23:52 # Show original
There is a theory that in the end we were shown purgatory or life in that subway outside of it.As I understood it, there were characters Hansel, Leila's mother and Umbrella, Swedes who played frisbee
mavlytovfagiz
PRO
11 Aug 15:48 # Show original
@tyoma_azov2022: you know, the idea of purgatory or everyone died can be attached to almost any story))) There are even such videos about Prostokvashino, Winnie the Pooh, etc. where they ridicule this idea)
all_lavender
10 Aug 00:15 # Show original
well... the ending turned out to be as logical as possible, but the last season just didn't work out. some absolutely unnecessary love line between the fifth and Leila, the motivation of the characters was not fully disclosed, etc. but in general, the series was quite good, funny, with bright characters, an excellent soundtrack, exciting
gkalian
10 Aug 00:34 # Show original
Well, somehow it turned out sadly, they started very well and cheerfully, and then for some reason they added extra drama between the Fifth and Laila, it's not clear why. They all have problems anyway, they would have dealt with the current ones, but no, they reset everything again, the characters have no progress at the end.
Out of all 145 thousand attempts to stop the end of the world, only one Fifth persuaded his family to sacrifice themselves? It's certainly not the 14 million visions of Strange, but it's still weird.
In general, thanks for the finale, thanks for the soundtrack (it was really good here). Well, as Klaus said, the main wisdom of the season:
— I love you guys, but you are all assholes.
Kentavr
18 Aug 06:39 # Show original
@gkalian: Well, they (the Fifth) said that he is the original Fifth from the original time line. Who better to fix it than him?)
gkalian
18 Aug 14:51 # Show original
@Kentavr: Oh, well, then it's not "strange", but I watched their dialogue through one place. Thanks for the comment.
-Holycow-
19 Aug 08:41 # Show original
@Kentavr: it's very lazy to make a bunch of clones that are absolutely useless and passive, the 5th of season 2 almost persuaded Luther to crash the original and take his place, and here are a bunch of 5x who are waiting to be annihilated... Well, don't we all love stories about such amoebas? Isn't that right?)
Voider
10 Aug 01:30 # Show original
My least favorite kind of finals. "We fought and fought, but we just had to die." Such "denouements " completely devalue the entire plot that was before. Just forget it, none of this was supposed to happen. Unfortunately, I personally never want to review the series with such finales - so they achieved their goal, Umbrella Academy is waiting for oblivion: ( The season is very chaotic, in some places it is stretched so that you can fall asleep, and in some places you should leave the room for half a minute - and you no longer understand what happened. And we could give them a last dance before the last end of the world, no?
-Holycow-
10 Aug 12:24 # Show original
@Voider: this does not prevent us from reviewing the first 2 seasons, despite the fact that there is a crack in places, but a fervent story about family values with morality works perfectly there.
Iscariot_Elian
12 Aug 01:32 # Show original
@Voider: I'm very positive about the ending, it's so insulting for the Persians, well, what is it (You don't understand how to relate to the fact that you watched the previous 3 seasons, fart into space (
It's sad and insulting, I think I'll review the 1st season somehow, the candy is the same
-Holycow-
12 Aug 01:48 # Show original
@Iscariot_Elian: I turned on the beginning of season 3 here, because they didn't give me a family dance in season 4) and how painful it is - they look so pale copies of themselves in season 4, I immediately remembered what the 5th was like and why he was the heart of the whole show in general and it became even sadder)
Hidji
12 Aug 06:16 # Show original
@Voider: I hate dog-sleep finales, but they've been really trendy lately...
-Holycow-
12 Aug 06:48 # Show original
@Hidji: it's just a rebut "lost" with meta-irony, it's cool to live 30-40 years and find out that in fact all the problems in the world are because of you and it would be better if you weren't born normally at all, so treat this with understanding and joy to finally leave this hateful world, These are the heroes you have become attached to. It's cool)
Hidji
12 Aug 06:54 # Show original
@-Holycow-: There is such a thing. I couldn't bring myself to watch the rest of what happened after the season 4 finale for a long time. But in the end, it would be better not to watch. And there are similar feelings here.
-Holycow-
12 Aug 09:13 # Show original
@Hidji: after such a finale, even Sidabovsky paradise seems to be the best idea, because he does not cross out what is happening, but only draws a line and says everything to this hero, let's see what his nephews have there)
АленаСоколова
10 Aug 05:04 # Show original
Complete shock. So spoil the finale – you need to try... There are so many plot twists, love, broken hearts, losses, gains... And as a result, "let's die and just finish everything"??? Hazel, the Swedes and the Curator were pleased, but this is a small grain of the entire series finale that I liked. It was as if they had figured out how to finish, and as a result they stuffed this and that in order to fill at least 6 episodes with a plot...
Diego's awareness of his love for his family in the CIA, along with the birth of love between Laila and the Fifth – is it serious????
Ben in general ... What was that? It would be better if I didn't know about the continuation of the series, but stopped at the third, or better yet, the second season
Matilda007
10 Aug 16:08 # Show original
@Alyonasokolova: agreed
DarinaI
10 Aug 10:04 # Show original
My favorite TV series. I will review it. Finished as finished. But I would have left at least one so that he could save everyone later and fix everything. Bunny Claus is forever in my heart ♥ The fifth one has been brilliant as an actor since the first season. Bunny Five, as a hero, deserved at least a little happiness with Leila. ♥️♥️♥️
DarinaI
03 Sep 05:52 #
@DarinaI: пересмотрела все-таки и 1 , и 2 сезоны. И знаете - закончили логично. Там с первой серии эта мысль звучит постоянно - что сколько мир не спасай, все равно опять будет конец света и будут виноваты Академия Амбрелла. Понятно, что на много-много вопросов не ответили, и 3 и 4 сезон слабоват и сюжетно, и локациями, и насыщенности нет. 2 сезон самый любимый!) Так же настаиваю, что Пятый заслуживает счастья в свои 70 лет хоть немного. Ну, а актерской игрой Пятого (особенно в первые два сезона) - можно бесконечно восхищаться. Клаус и Пятый - очень яркие персонажи, навсегда в моем сердце)
Danivsmisle
10 Aug 11:28 # Show original
The line of the Fifth and Laila is a rupture of the heart
NickPlexus
10 Aug 15:04 # Show original
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Nonelementary
10 Aug 16:22 # Show original
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Kamila_hell
11 Aug 19:41 # Show original
It seems that the trans transition is very harmful to the body, and life is greatly shortened.
Liyuuuuunder
10 Aug 16:04 # Show original
Kate Walsh, I thought it wouldn't be 😍😍😍😍 Six episodes are the very thing, they finished very well, everything is logical and dramatic. Good bye, Umbrella Academy 👉👈
Klipeshnik
10 Aug 16:04 # Show original
Absolutely slim final , very sorry 😔
Quvatlh
10 Aug 16:40 # Show original
The weakest season, created only to finish the series as soon as possible
zyyfff
19 Aug 10:27 # Show original
@Quvatlh: Hurry up? Are you kidding? There was a two - year break between the previous one and the final one
white_boom
10 Aug 16:57 # Show original
Yes, it was time to finish) not the worst ending in the history of the series
artnovv
10 Aug 18:57 # Show original
honestly, I've been a rabid fan of the series since the first season, but with this finale and this whole season in general, it's like I've screwed up a shovel of shit
Enchantresss
PRO
10 Aug 19:13 # Show original
I started with the reaction of the family to the novel by Lila and the Fifth 😂
Mrs_Tenn_Simm
10 Aug 21:28 # Show original
It was terribly smeared by the finale. For me, umbrellas is more than just a series, it pulled me out of difficult events in my life and that's how it ended. And it makes sense in general, we were told all the way that Reginald had done something wrong and it was all his fault, and the guys shouldn't have shown up, but damn it. A happy ending for some, "flowers of life" for others. Gerard and Gabriel, as producers, make you think that this is the canonical canon for possible comic book sequels one day, and it breaks your heart no less. I don't know, you need to get used to it, get used to it. Thanks guys Hargreaves. I love you very much and I will miss you. A great series, great actors, my heart is yours forever.
Enchantresss
PRO
10 Aug 21:29 # Show original
There are simply no impressions from the final. Even the end credits with photos from filming with the actors did not sweeten the pill.
I didn't understand why children exist if parents were erased from the timeline, what are such wonderful properties of the subway? 🤷🏻♀️
And where the fuck is Delhi Sloane going? Remember, Luther had a wife :/
Do you remember in the finale of the third season there was a scene after the credits where Ben was riding the subway? Why throw in some kind of hook if you're not going to use it later?
And what exactly was it between the Fifth and Lila? Why and why? Meh.
In general, I sympathize with people who have been waiting for the continuation of their favorite series for two years, and in the end they got it.
rkypkz
10 Aug 23:05 # Show original
@Enchantresss: I'm so angry for season 4 that I started writing another comment to, and I wanted to add about Sloane, they just leaked her. Just like Allison's husband was leaked, who was returned for some reason at the end of season 3. And of course I wanted a happy ending for Luther with Allison, if I'm not mistaken, 1-2 seasons a lot of time was spent on this love arc, why then?
Кайла
12 Aug 12:45 # Show original
@Enchantresss: Sloane didn't get out of the elevator at the end of Season 3
full_fusion
10 Aug 23:15 # Show original
Okay, I'm just going to love the first season and forget all the others, including this one.
pohititel_teney
10 Aug 23:28 # Show original
The season is weak compared to the previous ones. I expected that all the accumulated questions would be answered, the origin and motivation of Reginald and Abigail would be explained in a normal way, all the characters would become mature and determined
Until recently, I believed that Laila and the Fifth were an awesome bromance, not an awkward and random love line. how ridiculous their "love" scenes looked is just a separate topic, zero chemistry, especially against the background of Laila+Diego. who needed it at all...
It's a shame that in the end, the characters we know from several short scenes from the same season survived, and the characters who fought so much and sacrificed everything for peace did not deserve their happily ever after
There were enough cool scenes and characters, too, and many people had great acting. After all, we didn't completely fail the season, and finally, at least it was over.
PlanePassenger
11 Aug 15:02 # Show original
@pohititel_teney: I agree, the main twist of the series about Reginald's origin was simply forgotten.
pohititel_teney
11 Aug 19:35 # Show original
@PlanePassenger: and also, initially, there were 43 children born suddenly on the same day, and I was waiting from the very first episode for them all to be shown! In the end, we only saw umbrella and Sparrow, although all the other children should also have Marigold, and he is so important for the ending. They didn't tell me where they were or what happened to them either
Hidji
12 Aug 06:19 # Show original
@pohititel_teney: There was also a Phoenix. But I didn't notice if there were any new faces.
pohititel_teney
13 Aug 22:16 # Show original
@Hidji: It seems that two more Persians appeared there, whom we have not seen yet. but anyway, 43 of them are not going to all, they write that 16 are known. the creators of the series acted foolishly, of course, that they left such significant moments for the audience to think out for themselves. then we can come up with a normal ending ourselves)
Кайла
14 Aug 00:43 # Show original
@pohititel_teney: so there were 43 of them in the original timeline, with sperro it seems 16 or 18 (they say a different number at the beginning) And here, in fact, he was all in the bank, as I understood it, and he was not sprayed on anyone. Because his wife was alive, there was no point in dispelling it. It was just synthesized. And in this timeline, none of them seemed to be born, they then gained strength
pohititel_teney
15 Aug 02:47 # Show original
@Kayla: This is a comprehensive explanation, it's so logical. I also tried to understand something along different time lines, but I did not take into account that the joke was not in the children, but in Marigold, which was first contained in them, and then it was just collected in a jar
then the only thing that confuses me then is why there was even a stutter about these 43 children. some kind of misunderstanding or changed their mind halfway through, like "these are magical and cool, and finally forget about the rest, I don't care how they lived." although at least in the original timeline, they all had superpowers, but some became celebrities, and others had zero mentions. Like no one shot without Reginald? I don't believe it))
Adrasteya
29 Aug 15:54 # Show original
@pohititel_teney: but Reg was developing their abilities, that is, without training, they could either not develop properly and, most likely, either kill the carrier or significantly damage his/her cuckoo.
pohititel_teney
29 Aug 17:54 # Show original
@Adrasteya: such an explanation exists, but I don't believe that Reg was some kind of unique superhero trainer for the whole world, that no one could develop their own powers on their own, or that no one notably messed up with their powers to make it rumble in the news.
Adrasteya
29 Aug 18:59 # Show original
@pohititel_teney: Reg had the advantage of knowing about their abilities and what they were for. However, the FBI could have taken someone for experiments quite well.
Chebotovava
10 Aug 23:46 # Show original
Thank you so much for Map of the Problematique, one of my favorite Muse songs! But this is probably where all my "thanks" this season ends ... And how beautifully it all began
Goodbye, Umbrellas💔
dia_ling
11 Aug 00:27 # Show original
I join everyone who was disappointed by the end. The 3rd season was already gone, and the 4th even more so. It's as if seasons 1-2 and 3-4 were written by completely different people. The series had such potential, as it could be tested... Ahem, ahem... Lose it?(
I think that I will return to the cool moments of season 1-2 more than once, but I want to forget the 3-4 seasons. Not even that, they will forget themselves, since the last two seasons are about nothing at all.
Eh.
kingforthesirens
11 Aug 00:44 # Show original
The end in the style of Darkness is probably the only one that could be here, because all the problems initially came from the guys and their forces. A lot remains a mystery, but fuck it, after the disastrous third season, this one is a super-masterpiece.
PlanePassenger
11 Aug 15:00 # Show original
@kingforthesirens: more spoilers! "Butterfly Effect & # 34;! Although there are a few ends.
kingforthesirens
12 Aug 12:27 # Show original
@PlanePassenger: the series is already a lot of years old, what are the spoilers? You are still for spoilers to the Lost!
PlanePassenger
13 Aug 12:41 # Show original
@kingforthesirens: in my opinion, you didn't see the irony)
kobiii
PRO
11 Aug 03:26 # Show original
How bad it was... Not even how it ended, but this particular season. It is unclear why it is needed at all, you can write so many things about why you just want to forget this season and not remember, but even too lazy to do it. They just scored on the plot, on the characters, even on many lines from previous seasons, and gave out some kind of unnecessary filler.
I was really looking forward to the final season and hoped for a cool conclusion - although last season turned out to be weak, there were hopes that they would improve in the 4th. I remember how excited I was about the first season and I liked the second one too, and it really hurts what they did with the series. Uh, sad.
KillerTargaryen
PRO
11 Aug 06:24 # Show original
Cheap, simple, crumpled, brazen and just plain bad. It could be a good season, give it a few more episodes and normal writers for the finale.
EraOfMercy
11 Aug 12:58 # Show original
The season started well, but after the fourth episode it went to hell. So many unloaded guns and unfounded hopes.
The antagonists of the season, although they are not really antagonists, are terribly disappointing. Hazel and Cha-Chi, by comparison, also didn't have a specific background, and they were a great example of how you can write strong, interesting, charismatic characters without revealing the backstory. Jean and Jen have nothing but a goofy image, although they seemed to have potential at first, especially considering WHAT a stunned and numerous army of followers they have gathered.
There's some kind of hat with abilities this season. Lasers from the eyes have already been mentioned many times, while in the last two episodes they remembered that Laila could also copy other people's abilities, which means that the old skills still somehow survived, while Allison never uttered the trademark "rumor has it" - even at the time of by twisting eggs, when it was most appropriate, they replaced it with some kind of psionics, akin to Victor. And in general, somehow a lot of unnecessary fervent brutal violence arrived. Why did Luther acquire the body of a gorilla after all - I did not understand, because it was not the influence of Marigold, but the result of a surgical operation? Correct me if I'm wrong. At first, Klaus's interesting line about finding the fear of death and about the subsequent acceptance of his mortality did not grow into anything other than comic relief. But, probably, I really want to, it's a difficult topic. Victor's unprocessed long-term traumatic grudge against his father ran through the entire season, developed in one three-minute dialogue with an alternate version of Reginald. As if they remembered about this line, caught themselves - and shoved it in for show. A representation of friendship (even sworn friendship) between a man and a woman: well, yes, well, fuck me. Ugh.
EraOfMercy
11 Aug 12:58 # Show original
From personal disappointments: I was really looking forward to Ray's appearance and Sloan's return in some form. They were great characters, for Luther and Allison - as important as the Hargreaves family, and it was important and great, especially in light of the fact that they finally managed to get away from each other, it showed coolly that even a long codependency and falling in love can end, and that's okay, and after that You can live.
The good news is a very touching relationship between Claire and Klaus, built against the background of how Allison, ostracized after last season, seized on the most unstable and dysfunctional of the brothers. As it seemed to me - for my own comfort. But the real warmth was felt between him and her daughter.
And, in short, against the background of all this disappointment, the ending with self-annihilation is so crystal clear. I don't even feel sorry for anyone, it feels like I didn't have to say goodbye to my favorite characters. I will miss Umbrella-the one that I loved before, that I waited for for two years and returned to in difficult moments, like home. A long and sad farewell did not work out, it happened somewhere in the middle of the season unnoticeably. Thanks for everything, and goodbye.
orranj
PRO
09 Sep 23:46 # Show original
@EraOfMercy: I will answer your comment about the fact that Jean and Jean did not have any background. There was! and the motivation was just right. they say they were successful scientists in the original timeline, unlike this one. and that's why it's so important to them that the Cleaning takes place and all the other timelines are removed - so that they become successful people in the original timeline (again). However, it is interesting that in the final scene in the park, none of them is visible...
Allison also took advantage of her ability to start a rumor once this season - when a bunch of Keepers went to her and her brothers in a small town, she forced one of them to shoot all the others and then shoot himself. however, she did not say anything, but inspired him with the need for this action somehow remotely. but at least so 🥲
Sarcoma
11 Aug 13:15 # Show original
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Quvatlh
11 Aug 14:04 # Show original
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mavlytovfagiz
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11 Aug 15:43 # Show original
@Quvatlh: I'll tell you, you won't believe it)))
Кайла
12 Aug 12:52 # Show original
@Quvatlh: it seems you missed something)
-Holycow-
12 Aug 13:10 # Show original
@Quvatlh: "It seems to me, gentlemen, it was... Comedy".
PlanePassenger
12 Aug 13:14 # Show original
@Quvatlh: I feel the meta-irony
PlanePassenger
11 Aug 14:59 # Show original
In fact, we are dealing with something like the ending of Game of Thrones, in the sense that the original comics kept within the first 2.5 seasons. The next volume, Sparrow Academy, has not been released for several years. So the ending is most likely entirely on the shoulders of the screenwriters. Way and Ba, of course, were producers and could whisper something, but judging by the credits, they did not take much part in the work. Nevertheless, the season is made quite in the spirit of the whole series, I did not notice any strong distortions. It's over and done, thanks for that too.
PlanePassenger
13 Aug 01:09 # Show original
and in general... actually, if you think about it, it's such a standard emo ending))
mavlytovfagiz
PRO
11 Aug 15:40 # Show original
It seems like everyone twisted the plot so cool, they went to save their brother and girlfriend, the keepers were gathered, and as a result, some strange ending where everything just disappeared ... The open ending of season 3 was more interesting.
mavlytovfagiz
PRO
11 Aug 15:56 # Show original
As I understood the moral of the season and the series, as in the series Dark Matter - Do not decide for others what is best for them, this only creates even more problems; Reg, selfishly wanting to save his wife, creates a multiverse that eventually made everyone unhappy.
-Holycow-
11 Aug 15:58 # Show original
@mavlytovfagiz: damn heroes, they decide to save someone's life, bastards))
guzyalildusovna
11 Aug 17:34 # Show original
Let's all pretend that there was no fourth season. RIP Umbrella Academy 🥀
Anica22
11 Aug 17:35 # Show original
I hate endings where the characters you've grown to love over the years just die. I cried my eyes out on the stage where they were all saying goodbye to each other.
It's very sad, I would like a naive and banal happy ending, of course. But the creators of the campaign really did not want to solve all these interpersonal problems and love triangles that they had screwed up.
Sadness.
Me-wow
11 Aug 21:25 # Show original
A series that started with such a bombastic song couldn't be bad, I would like to say, but I can't, it's too sad. And it helps a little to come to terms with such an ending, this perfectly played universal fatigue in the eyes of the Fifth. Maybe it's really better this way, but when they were trying to find the right words at the very end to have time to say something important, knowing that it would still not be enough, it really tears their soul. It's a pity that Ben had half a season on his own, that Diego and Luthor didn't have a special role either, but overall it was still very interesting. I'll probably reconsider it sometime. Eight marigolds in the post-credits milot scene, of course. Let's at least meet like this.
zaynaria
11 Aug 22:15 #
Thanks for 'Щедрик' in the 2nd episode, I guess. Everything else.........
I remember how much I loved Klaus × Diego and Klaus × Ben bromances. It was fun to watch in season 1, it got me hooked. What they did next with Klaus is such a disappointment. They did Diego dirty. I can't remember what I ever liked about Ben.
Five and Lila is just 🤢 Idk why it's so disgusting to me, but it is. Made me so uncomfortable.
It finally ended. Bye.
akaredo
11 Aug 22:17 # Show original
The way they presented a similar ending in Dark years earlier, and how they pushed it here... It's a pain, really.
DarinaI
12 Aug 04:00 # Show original
@akaredo: why spoiler another series?
Adrasteya
29 Aug 16:01 # Show original
@akaredo: The darkness was originally conceived this way. That is, they planned such an ending right away, and how everything would come to it. The darkness was at once a complete work. Umbrella's problem, like the problem of Game of Thrones, is probably that the authors themselves don't really know how to bring such a complex and confusing story to the finale.
gkalian
29 Aug 20:17 # Show original
@Adrasteya: Darkness was lucky that Netflix did not close the series after the first or second seasons, although it is known that the original story was originally for three seasons. 1899 also had ideas for three seasons, but in the end it all ended with a cliffhanger and the series was closed.
So here the authors also have a problem that they rarely know whether their series will be extended or not, and from this you need to try to tell a more or less complete story, with a hint of continuation. In this case, the continuation turned out to be so-so also due to the fact that some of the previous lines were simply abandoned and forgotten.
Adrasteya
29 Aug 23:19 # Show original
@gkalian: That's right about the extension. This is generally an industry problem, imho. But if the author has no idea or has a bad idea of how the story should end, something like this will turn out. Often, the story grows, absorbs the author, he gets confused and cannot steer properly to the finale. Therefore, imho, Martin PLIO will not finish in any way.
Hidji
30 Aug 00:04 # Show original
@Adrasteya: It is also interesting that there are many gorgeous finished works from books to comics that are more than worthy of a film adaptation, but no one takes them into development. But there are already a lot of remakes or unfinished ones in the work, some end up like this, others hang around waiting for the author's text. Although in my opinion this is for the best, lately they have been too fond of plowing the original in full and well, whatever they do in the coming years.
-Holycow-
30 Aug 05:19 # Show original
@Adrasteya: if the author has such a problem, then it probably doesn't make sense to contact him. The final should be in the project from the very beginning, the path to it can lengthen and wobble in different directions. There is also no difficulty in tracking ratings and interest in the project at a distance and to wrap up in time. It's more difficult to release an entire season like Netflix, but no one prevents you from telling one story in one season and making an implicit cliffhanger that can be developed in the future or not developed and left just a pleasant bonus. The difficulties are just with the troubled authors, who begin to shove Santa Barbara into the finished story and turn it into a porridge that is not very tasty and does not look very good either)
Adrasteya
30 Aug 10:55 # Show original
@Hidji: No one wants to take such risks with new projects. Everyone wants money guaranteed. And people are also more likely to go for the familiar, alas. Therefore, we have what we have.
Adrasteya
30 Aug 10:58 # Show original
@-Holycow-: and the author has it written on his forehead that he has such a problem. Well, Martin knew what the end of the PLIO would be. Did it help in any way? People still naively believe that he will write something else. That's why he doesn't write at all now. Well, I do not know if you have ever written, but often in the process you realize that as planned, it will not work anymore. Rowling Vaughn was going to kill Harry Potter, for example.
Hidji
30 Aug 12:23 # Show original
@Adrasteya: Potter has such an ending that it's obvious there). But this is far from the first author to follow in the footsteps of Conan Doyle, reviving the character because of the readers, even in the same story where he died. But with Martin, the situation is much more complicated. The elaboration of the moves at the beginning and the idiocy at the end are too striking. Well, it is impossible that the author so obviously scored on such carefully worked-out moves and plot twists, draining everything to such a level. That's why the fans don't believe it.
-Holycow-
30 Aug 12:31 # Show original
@Adrasteya: Your communication style is interesting... Do you seriously think that you can come to the producers with a written napkin and a cool idea and they will immediately launch the project? and then somehow someone will finish and come up with a structure, a conflict, a composition, that's why at all, the main thing here is to show how teenagers suck, and we'll collect the scenery around from some garbage... The whole concept and the final is written out and calculated if anything, just not always following the logic that will be understandable to a simple consumer... Martin said that he has a finale (do you believe him?), how does the film adaptation of PLIO relate to his finale? if in fact it does not exist. Fakap PLIO is entirely based on brilliant showrunners who, within the framework of the already existing stories of the released seasons, could not reduce all the threads to one canvas, but invented some crap on the go and painfully shoveled the whole plot in half for it. I left an opinion about Martin somewhere under Rick and Morty, if you're interested, look for it) As for Rowling, I agree, an adjustment of the original plan for the finale is possible if circumstances arise due to inclusions in the main plot that interfere with the original finale, but here again there are 2 points: the cancellation of Harry Potter's death is a unique thing and it is connected with the author's condition and responsibility to the audience, and this is rare, not something everyday, and something seems to me. that TV shows don't bother with such reasons... ps You know, you don't have to be a writer to understand how a work is created. I don't know if you've thought about it... ;^D
Adrasteya
30 Aug 13:10 # Show original
@Hidji: with Martin, it is obvious that he has so many side characters and branches that he can no longer cope with this colossus.
Adrasteya
30 Aug 13:14 # Show original
@-Holycow-: well, yes, you can calmly talk about what you don't really understand, this is exactly how it is usually done. At this point, further dialogue becomes meaningless.
-Holycow-
30 Aug 13:23 # Show original
@Adrasteya: You can, you can even figure it out, you can worry, there are a lot of options. The dialogue with you loses its meaning, because you are not interested in what they tell you, You are interested in yourself)
Adrasteya
30 Aug 16:27 # Show original
@-Holycow-: first of all, I'm not interested in you specifically.
-Holycow-
30 Aug 16:41 # Show original
@Adrasteya: what a tragedy) It would seem that analysis and judgment have nothing to do with it, most importantly, do not get hung up)
SweetLex
11 Aug 22:21 # Show original
Among other things, as mentioned above. How terribly Ben's face was painted when he turns into a monster.. the graphics are lame.
The feeling that someone was told the main idea of the series, he did not really understand and went to shoot on a limited budget. Okay?
Настос
11 Aug 22:30 # Show original
Immediately after the finale, I went to watch the very first episode - I saw several references in the finale to the beginning, which can not but please! But in general, the atmosphere that was set for the first couple of seasons was irretrievably spoiled(( All the screenwriters in the world seem to be obsessed with timelines at one time, although this breaks the narratives and does not add points to the series / films, only adds extra semantic load... Against the background of such a confusing and short finale, I decided to review the masterpiece of the first season completely in order to get the thrill I was waiting for from the new season, but alas, I did not get it.
vk461598
11 Aug 22:33 # Show original
I enjoyed the season, I was glad to see their interactions, support and quarrels. I came to read similar musli in the comments, but there are dissatisfactions. Well, wow. Well okie. I'm going to miss the guys sooo much. I think maybe the comic can start reading 🤔
kingforthesirens
12 Aug 12:30 # Show original
@vk461598: Well, thank God, I'm not the only one. They also poured shit on tumblr, although they were more loyal to the third season (and it was tin as bad, imho).
pohititel_teney
13 Aug 22:22 # Show original
@kingforthesirens: First of all, the third season had a much bigger budget, and they made the coolest visual there. and the second reason for loyalty is that the season was not the final one, we hoped that then all the understatements and misunderstandings would be explained for sure. well, I personally will not say that it was tin as bad. in my opinion, no worse than the fourth at least)
Настос
11 Aug 22:34 # Show original
But for the MUSE song at the beginning of the series, I clap standing up!🙂↕️
DanilinArthur
11 Aug 22:39 # Show original
Is Ben and Jennifer's pairing a reference to Affleck and Lopez?)
HolyPryce
12 Aug 13:00 # Show original
@DanilinArthur: Finally, someone said it 😅
pohititel_teney
13 Aug 22:23 #
@DanilinArthur: почему?)
Nonelementary
13 Aug 23:18 # Show original
@pohititel_teney: I suspect because celebrities have the same name — Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez. But something is doubtful in terms of intentional reference)
pohititel_teney
15 Aug 02:36 # Show original
@Nonelementary: aah, exactly, I didn't guess something)) and it's really unclear what the point of such a reference would be, although they could just indulge, of course
Sania_san
16 Aug 10:09 # Show original
Most likely, it is a reference to their relationship that they got together after 20 (?) years, but now they seem to be splitting up again
Adrasteya
29 Aug 16:03 # Show original
@DanilinArthur: no, because Ben draws Jennifer back in season 3. That is, the idea arose earlier than these two came together again.
DiKEY999
11 Aug 22:59 # Show original
And only I noticed that the name of the fifth was shown??Is his name Max Hargreeves ?
PlanePassenger
11 Aug 23:49 #
@DiKEY999: Нет, его имя Пятый.
Does Five have a name? And is it Max like the name of the deli we see at the end of the season?
Blackman: No. Five’s name is Five. What we came up with was that — and I think this also has to do with Gerard Way telling me this — as the kids grew up, they got to pick their names and Grace (the Brellies’ adoptive robot mother, played by Jordan Claire Robbins) helped pick their names. Five could never pick one. He just was that kind of stubborn kid who didn’t know what his name was yet. And when he was 11, he disappeared and got lost in the future. So he never got back to be able to have a name. So he just kept Five. So Five’s name is only Five. There is no other name for Five.
Gerard Way: He was basically like, “Fuck you!” That’s the way it was in the comic, even though you haven’t seen it yet.
Archabil
11 Aug 23:08 # Show original
The series is generally not bad. It all started out great, but in the end it seems there are no ideas left. But in any case, I was glad to see the rest
Maybe_Karl
11 Aug 23:23 # Show original
damn, I once had to come up with, write, and draw a comic book in size as one printed commercial issue for a competition in a month, and there was clearly a lack of time and opportunity to think over some twists more interestingly. this season feels the same way. maybe there was a limited budget for screenwriters and everything was leaked to graphon. in short, the season of krinzhukh. Initially, in principle, I only liked two characters - Klaus and the Fifth. Klaus was prescribed at least some variety. but the Fifth, for all its dynamism, seemed like some kind of nonsense all season. It turned out a little short. Something was missing. there would be more episodes, maybe we would get more adventures of Diego and Luther, it would be fun. Paige still doesn't know how to play, and the long scene where Victor yells at Reggie only worsened this impression (( for the first time in my life, I had a desire to read fix-it features, because somehow it's all wrong. or you will have to imagine that this season did not happen %)) Although there are such great ideas on tumblr how to fix all this, maybe I'll pull myself together and draw a fix it comic.
EraOfMercy
11 Aug 23:29 # Show original
@Maybe_Karl: It's a sinful thing to dream of a petition so that Way and Ba fix-it comics will fit us all.
Maybe_Karl
11 Aug 23:47 # Show original
@EraOfMercy: Yeah, that would be cool.
PlanePassenger
11 Aug 23:52 # Show original
@EraOfMercy: at least let them finish Sparrow Academy first) And there may be no need for a petition.
PlanePassenger
11 Aug 23:53 # Show original
@Maybe_Karl: if anything, throw it here later)
Maybe_Karl
11 Aug 23:54 # Show original
Oh, and I'll also add that the final message of the season is just tin. here you have two problems affecting each other all your life - a mental and a relative, and in the end it turns out that you are actually the problem. there is no need to fix anything, psychotherapy is not needed, building relationships is not necessary, we just drank to fix the situation. The meme of the worshiping penguin.jpg
Sinhito
12 Aug 00:41 # Show original
Giant monsters? Well now, it's definitely Umbrella, lol
tsarinadzicc
12 Aug 00:52 # Show original
An absolutely meaningless season. It was necessary to finish on the previous one. The relationship between Lila and the Fifth looks strange, what is it all about? If in the end she didn't stay with Diego either and sent the Fifth one. Unnecessary drama amid a flawed ending
zyyfff
19 Aug 11:13 # Show original
@tsarinadzicc: she needed the Fifth to freak out and escape back to the subway, where he met with himself in parallel... Well, I look at it this way, it gets easier)) although the overall ending didn't make it any easier anyway
child_bluda
19 Aug 11:34 # Show original
@zyyfff: I'm sitting with my face on and thinking what I just looked at.
Paramelion
12 Aug 02:18 # Show original
Gorgeous first two seasons, a decent third. And what a disappointment from the fourth ( There are a lot of unexplained elements, unclosed branches and filler plots in this short season. Initially, the story was built around Vanya (Victor), and ended with the central protagonist in the person of the fifth. The best episode is the second. That's all that can be highlighted this season. The last episode started off great with Muse, but all that followed was shame and shame for the fans. I'm going to miss this family. Bye
Кайла
12 Aug 12:49 # Show original
this season seems to be a separate story altogether. Moreover, in which nothing is clear The fifth one who died an old man ? Yes, it's just that another fifth decided to found. From another timeline Motivation? Well, I just didn't want to come alive, but my husband revived me, so let's fuck the whole world. Why start this at all if you could just cure the bottle (which Abigail apparently threw) on Jennifer and that's it? Do we need people to die? By the way, was there anything left in it? Or did they get at Klaus after all? It feels like another series with the same characters. And by the way, what about relatives? Are these really Lila's parents who are alive in this timeline? She just found them and came to the door and said I'm your daughter, here's my husband, are we expecting a baby?
It seems that there is little time and it could have been spent on explanations, and not on the sad eyes of the fifth. A completely meaningless line with Lila. Sad sad, very upset to be honest(
-Holycow-
12 Aug 13:04 # Show original
@Kayla: In 6 episodes, it was possible to reveal the secret of Reginald and his beloved, the secret of Ben's death (and not this empty one, invented by those who watched through the window in the jump in previous seasons), answer the question why Hargreaves faked his death (if it was not preventing the end of the world, but something besides that Well , he couldn't have known about the return of the 5th in any way...) It was possible to focus on one storyline and dot it all, give each of the Hargreaves some kind of catharsis or what his actions would lead to... But no, let's erase them all and pretend that this is the way it should be. Ben actually miraculously survived, regained his strength to stupidly get sick and die next to a stranger - what is this all about? What am I supposed to feel about this story? Moreover, they also managed to spoil Ben from season 1 with this brilliant flashback... darkness
Кайла
12 Aug 14:21 # Show original
@-Holycow-: it would even be OK for me in general that they should not exist, well, because the truth is that they were essentially conceived by magic pollen. But this pollen is in the jar! Well, it's like there are no problems
I didn't understand at all. We didn't finish anything and it was very sad and insulting (I liked this series because yes it is "funny" And here it was reduced to some bad pink snot everywhere that is out of place
-Holycow-
12 Aug 15:03 # Show original
@Kayla: Well xs... What's with the magic pollen, what's with the magic subway, what's wrong with 5m, it's dementia, why are Claire and Diego's nameless children in some park with villains from previous seasons... Well, there are just too many questions after the finale, "what kind of horror is going on here" and nothing bright covers it... So yes, the reasons to get upset about the finale are different, but as usually happens, we chose the one from the set that absolutely no one will like) and it's all because of the 5th)
Кайла
12 Aug 16:21 # Show original
@-Holycow-: well, villains like didn't become villains) I'm always glad to see Walsh of course) But just WHAT and I still don't understand where Lila's family came from in the new timeline
-Holycow-
12 Aug 16:51 # Show original
@Kayla: they would still have remained mercenaries with questionable morals, who were not reached by the Ministry of Chronology Correction) so that Laila could suffer on an equal basis with the rest, of course)
Кайла
12 Aug 19:22 # Show original
@-Holycow-: Why? what are the different questions for and from where)
-Holycow-
13 Aug 05:31 # Show original
@Kayla: We will leave this question unanswered, following the given trend. There's no way to understand how all the people were rebooted. They could have returned Diego's ex and prescribed an affair on the side, if they certainly needed this melodramatic absurdity, and indeed the entire cast of the 1st season to the pile, and if we remember about Alison's husband, who would put the entire reboot script and blow up the brains of this machine, then there generally an abnormal zone should arise with bugs and sagging)
shirrrmm
12 Aug 13:09 # Show original
What kind of Dark-style ending did it turn out to be?
myrin221
12 Aug 23:49 # Show original
@shirrrmm: Yes, that's right, I wanted to write about it, but the Darkness turned out much cooler
HolyPryce
12 Aug 13:11 # Show original
Oh, I'll just say, thanks for ending it.
there are cool moments, there are no conceptual complaints about the finale (not all cats have happy endings), the season looked cheerful (especially when I had already forgotten about all the old guns, like me), but uneven, there are also blunt turns (the line of the Fifth and Laila looked beautiful and tremulous at the moment, but only in isolation from the rest of the series; as someone has already mentioned, it really looks like an homage to peaches and plums, motherfucker, but rather awkward, especially considering the 15-year age difference between the actors and the fact that the Fifth, even if he is in the world without magic " (tm) I began to grow up, physically at most 19; they showed these pictures of the actors at the end, I forgot what a tiny bead Aidan was in the first season). in general, well, this. but at least the gestalt is closed, and we've seen worse endings.
Хосок13
12 Aug 15:44 # Show original
It's fine, it's just fine
GonReborn
12 Aug 15:46 # Show original
Thank God this series is over, no matter how interesting the twisted plots in the seasons were, I got tired of their endless showdowns and squabbles out of the blue every season, and it all started from the very first season, but I continued and continued to watch, as if purposely forgetting that I disliked so much in the past before each new one. And the actors are cool, and they say that families are like that, they swear, they argue, but they don't leave each other, but in each season the characters seem to deliberately degrade their brains so that they swear and swear and swear.
g1486142
12 Aug 16:14 # Show original
to be honest, I thought it would be better, but we did a lot and not with high quality
eeevgenya
12 Aug 16:48 # Show original
and we've been waiting for this for 2 years... well, there were hopes for something more
zhannaboo
12 Aug 16:55 # Show original
I heard a rumor...that Season 4 didn't happen
Luc1
12 Aug 18:16 # Show original
@zhannaboo: Yes, they reset all 4 seasons
Anna007K
12 Aug 18:06 # Show original
Well P * * * * C of course, recently it has become fashionable to drain the final seasons along the way
Luc1
12 Aug 18:16 # Show original
Seriously, another self-deprecating ending? Screenwriters like to leave a bitter aftertaste
Guka
12 Aug 18:20 # Show original
What kind of very strange things did I look at?))
AlexBest115
PRO
12 Aug 18:26 # Show original
Thanks to everyone who watched this series with me
_practical_mery
12 Aug 19:17 # Show original
oooooooh, b.....b. Thank you all, I watched this something to understand how it would end, and they just became marigolds.
sunshine_lika
12 Aug 19:35 # Show original
I liked it, everything is stable apocalypse and they save the world or move to another reality. But then they decided to accept the inevitable. The fifth season this year was just like always
sunshine_lika
12 Aug 19:37 # Show original
Yes, not everyone liked the finale, but it's better than just closing the project without a finale :)
Iscariot_Elian
13 Aug 01:31 # Show original
In this case, it would be better to leave everything for the 3rd season)
sunshine_lika
14 Aug 22:53 # Show original
@Iscariot_Elian: Yes, I thought about it after I wrote it. I agree, the 3rd season ended well, why the 4th
Наизусть
PRO
12 Aug 20:46 # Show original
To be honest, this is the most ridiculous final season in recent times. So everything started well once, and now they've ended up with this? Yes, everything was bad for the series last season, but I hoped that by the end they would do something really powerful and finish everything with dignity. But this season looked like it was filmed and edited by a man with schizophrenia.
Ell
12 Aug 22:17 # Show original
I think the ending is great. The season as a whole started off average, but the second half is good. The last three episodes have gone straight in. That's what you need. In total, 1,2,4 seasons are good. Season 3 is average. The result is quite OK.
gdetomezhdu
12 Aug 22:43 # Show original
Honestly, for me, the ending doesn't look right merged. Yes, the fourth season feels much worse than the others, especially the first and second, but as if nothing else could have happened? it feels like the pace of the narrative is jumping, rushing somewhere, everything seems strange and like a rough draft. Regarding the end: of course, it could have been better, but this is umbrella — everything is not going the way you want it to. I've come to such an end, even if it looks like a drama for the sake of drama. I can't imagine a complete he for this family, they're not like people. so I'm glad it's finally over, even so. It's still hard to accept, but I think it's possible.
of course, it is impossible to ignore the number of plot black holes, but I am really glad that this whole thing, which began in the third season, has come to an end. All love and good TV shows😽
myrin221
12 Aug 23:45 # Show original
Yeah, only the song from the credits is good in the finale... The season sucks Sijiai flowers were finished off with the last frame)) a strike is a strike, but it would be better to postpone the end of the season than to end like this
мышьсоня
13 Aug 00:51 # Show original
The fifth one looked like an adult Jughead from the last seasons of Riverdale, the same tired, tortured, not getting enough sleep...
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
PRO
13 Aug 00:52 # Show original
Of course, the series left a lot of questions... I am glad that the show runners did not follow the path of the series Garbage, even with a bunch of unnecessary seasons.
Here we have a complete picture, all the arches are closed and that's good. Yes, it's a pity for your favorite characters that you had to say goodbye to them, but it's better than just dropping it later on some 6-7-8 season.
Reginald and Abigail remained so unclear to me. What kind of aliens are these? What is their mission of staying on our planet? 🤔
If even in the third season the motivation of the Pope was clear, he faked his own death to start a series of events and bring back his dead wife, but still their purpose of staying on earth remains unclear.
Why Abigail died in the first place. Why did she create Marigold and Durango in the first place 🤔
Who built an alternative version of the hotel called Oblivion. What kind of unkillable samurai appeared in it on a call at the reception 🤔
And most importantly, who is the creator of the universe restart console?
Who created the subway? It reminded me a little of the Dark Matter series, but there was a man-made cube moving through the multiverse.. Who is the architect of the metro here ?
PlanePassenger
13 Aug 01:06 # Show original
@ИнтeрecныйФиллep: Well, it's good that there is hope to learn something from this, at least in comics. "Why she created Marigold in the first place" I don't think there was a special reason, just scientific interest. People systematically discover new elements of the periodic table, simply because they can. " Who built it... Oblivion" Reg, no?
ИнтeрecныйФиллep
PRO
13 Aug 01:11 # Show original
@PlanePassenger: Oh, we would like to have a little bit of their disclosure, I think it would be an interesting topic.. Well, for example, their home planet was destroyed by some kind of apocalypse, and these two elements are the key to the revival of their species)
As for the construction, it seems like yes, Reginald found a wormhole in a field, and built a hotel on this site.. This is where the moment is not clear, the same builders were building an alternative hotel... Or this hotel was built in parallel to the main one)))
But there's more of a question about the remote control of the universe)
PlanePassenger
13 Aug 01:17 # Show original
@ИнтeрecныйФиллep: then she would have rejoiced at their creation, but on the contrary she blamed herself. This is comparable to the creation of dynamite or the principle of splitting an atom.
Well, Reg on the one hand, alternative Reg on the other)) Well, the remote is really xs)
br1ella
PRO
13 Aug 04:09 # Show original
I'll just pretend that this season didn't happen and it ended up restarting the universe... it's necessary to merge a good project so stupidly.
g1489536
13 Aug 08:34 # Show original
the series killed. but it's good that I watched it. I am grateful for this series. the end was sad, but quite logical. the scene after the credits is sad too. even in the last episode, the couple of Laila and the fifth did not feel so bad anymore
pepsnap
13 Aug 11:14 # Show original
But I was most annoyed by CGI this season. What the hell is this? This is literally the level of the 90s TV series. You're in 2024, HOW could you do that? What did your entire budget go to?
PlanePassenger
13 Aug 12:44 # Show original
@pepsnap: in my opinion, CGI as a whole has been very depressed in the industry lately, even in large projects. Soon it will be possible to count on the fingers, especially in TV series.
Adrasteya
29 Aug 16:12 # Show original
@PlanePassenger: because they save us a lot. And the working conditions in the industry, to put it mildly, are not a fountain.
pepsnap
13 Aug 12:06 # Show original
It feels like a completely different team did this season.
The CGI level...a series from the 90s + cut scenes from games. It was neither realistic as in previous seasons nor atmospheric (as in Strange Cases, for example)
It's a very strange shoot. Camera angles, color correction, scales. Sometimes it felt like I was watching such a cheap sitcom from a small American town
The scenery was also pumped up. And the soundtracks are either the wrong ones or in the wrong place. It was especially noticeable in the battle scene with the monster. And it would be cool if they danced at the end, as in previous seasons, and not just stood while they were swallowed up by the muck.
The script and dialogues with holes.
You literally had a successful product ready in your hands, with a good idea, actors and design. Well, how could this be done?? What went wrong??
badking
13 Aug 17:59 # Show original
I watched this whole disgusting season only for the sake of the Fifth and generally grown-up Aidan. How suits suit the guy... He didn't need a relationship line at all._. There is nothing more to say, we started for health, finished for peace.
tinacassie
13 Aug 22:59 # Show original
Since they shot such a ridiculous season, then at least let everyone stay alive, and not this glass here 🙄
g1489536
13 Aug 23:00 # Show original
@tinacassie: in fact damn
dazzz
13 Aug 23:30 # Show original
I hope that someday this will still be released in Volume 4 of the comic and there will not be such an X**no!
Masim8888
14 Aug 00:22 # Show original
At least one series with a normal ending.
sghxhsgup
14 Aug 00:58 # Show original
I'm disappointed in the season, but the end is cool. The best seasons were 1 and 2. I thought that the series would end grandly, but not like this. The ending is more or less cool and the photos with the custom are cool.
vk775121
14 Aug 07:04 # Show original
By the way, the logical ending of the series, another thing is that the series has long turned the wrong way and was trampling in a circle 🔁
Rutha
PRO
14 Aug 11:17 # Show original
How much I hate TV shows where the main character/characters die at the very end. Because of this, all the love for the series and the desire to review it always spoils. And I really loved watching this series... RIP 💔
-Holycow-
14 Aug 11:32 # Show original
@Rutha: Come on, they would have died and saved the world or died and lost... but they gave up and admitted their lives were a mistake and kind of sacrificed themselves for what? like for the sake of the children (who, in theory, should not exist either) and some people (who were a priority only when dad was in authority, and after Ben's death, saving the world was an accompanying additional task). This is the finale of those when you've been following what's happening for 5 years, and now it's all a dog's dream, nothing happened, take a bite, life is a boring turd, go touch the grass... fuuhhh... sorry, it's boiling over)
myatezhka
14 Aug 12:00 # Show original
Did they all just disappear? 💔 This is not the end I expected. My beloved crazy family, I will miss you very much, I wanted so much for them all 💔💔💔
myatezhka
15 Aug 15:52 # Show original
@myatezhka: I found something interesting for myself in each season, and now it's so disappointing that the final season turned out to be shortened, I didn't have time for 6 episodes to feel that this is the end The series flew by very quickly The development of many lines was not enough But, in any case, thanks to the authors for so many interesting characters
Sich666
14 Aug 12:25 # Show original
A completely unnecessary and very crumpled season, but thank you for definitely ending.
НастяШевелева
14 Aug 13:47 # Show original
Muse group song in the theme of😍😍😍 😍
prevedviper
14 Aug 17:49 # Show original
Yeah, it would be better not to shoot the season, it turned out to be a complete bullshit
Valunyaya
14 Aug 18:20 # Show original
"Since season 3, everything has gone to hell," that's what I thought when I decided to watch the ending after all. What a first season it was! And the second one is also good. Music, picture, budget and plot. And here there is sadness, which, in fact, I expected from the previous season. Rough. I will be reviewing the first season.
zhosman-kinoman
PRO
14 Aug 19:31 # Show original
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zhosman-kinoman
PRO
14 Aug 19:32 # Show original
The expectation and the release of season 4 gave their emotions and watched with pleasure, no matter what they took. But apparently the creators did not plan to finish the wonderful series and the story beautifully. Alas, how it turned out so it turned out. Anyway, these series, characters, heroes have left their mark and a pleasant aftertaste. And tell me how the story ends in the comic, who read it?!
Hidji
14 Aug 20:08 # Show original
@zhosman-kinoman: no way, it's not finished yet). It's the same stuff as Game of Thrones.
zhosman-kinoman
PRO
14 Aug 21:00 # Show original
Accepted thank you🤝
Anekina
PRO
14 Aug 20:31 # Show original
The series is very cool. It's sad that it ended like this
mrloser_69
14 Aug 21:01 # Show original
The season has not gone very far, but the end is sad, it's a pity that this family has such an outcome 🥲
__Алиса__
14 Aug 23:26 # Show original
Well shtosh... congratulations on closing the gestalt to all of us 🥳
vk238278
14 Aug 23:30 # Show original
What a woof
Varyast
15 Aug 08:04 # Show original
I will pretend that there was no fourth season, for me the best are the first and second seasons, I will review them, but I will erase the fourth from my memory
Сериальщик732
15 Aug 11:05 # Show original
In general, the idea of the season is not about anything. They had already lost their strength in the third, even if they had lived peacefully. It's all over!
vikafro17
15 Aug 14:56 # Show original
as for me, too much nonsense has been stirred up, a lot of disgusting things. I used to like this series better. this season has not come at all... some kind of turbidity
elected2009
15 Aug 20:01 # Show original
Oh, damn, well, how so (How good were the previous seasons, the last one was so terrible, the ending is generally tin ((Supernatural reminded me, there I also really regretted that I watched the last episode, only here I regretted that the 3rd season was not the end of the series.
zyyfff
19 Aug 11:42 # Show original
@elected2009: and I liked the ending of the SPN, even if everything is crumpled and messy, but they prescribed the real end of all the ends. And then they just crossed out the WHOLE series! Like, forget it, he wasn't there, everything's fine 🤬
Sinsinsin
15 Aug 20:37 # Show original
Why was there a 5 episode with a love story that did not develop in any way. We traveled for 7 years, fell in love, returned and that's it, the end. Apparently it was necessary to stretch at least for 6 episodes, but there were no ideas at all. If someone decides to read the comments before watching the series, then this is a message to that person. DON'T WATCH SEASON 4, the third one has a great ending
Lari
16 Aug 00:57 # Show original
Still, the golden rule is, if the characters themselves start to chew "what's going on here" to you, the script is certainly weak… love lines also turned out to be dead ends. It probably should have been left for season 3.
Sania_san
16 Aug 09:52 # Show original
At first I thought that the third season was not good at all, this one became not good after the second series ... But such a non-happy ending put everything in its place - the series is top!
Sania_san
16 Aug 09:56 # Show original
The only thing that causes, if not anger, then specific perplexity is WHY WE DIDN'T GET A CAMEO BY GERARD WAY?!?!?! Why didn't you hear any songs of Romances?!?! Why couldn't something from Way's repertoire be put on instead of Muse's song?.
Sania_san
16 Aug 09:57 # Show original
Post-credits scene-thank you for sending to the attack of the Titans and the sacred tree
Sania_san
16 Aug 10:15 # Show original
Even if it wasn't a reference, I'll still believe it. 😅
Коневская
16 Aug 13:04 # Show original
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TymXs
16 Aug 13:11 # Show original
The series is not about anything.... Like a Bizet wrapped around a fan... Don't look, the degradation of everything... They give you under a beautiful picture ... Nothing. No meaning, no story, no understanding of what. We mastered the budget and that's all.
dkorab
16 Aug 15:16 # Show original
When it was easier for the screenwriters to kill everyone than to figure out how to save them. Shit
pavlovdv22
16 Aug 23:53 # Show original
Sad emotions, nostalgic. After all, a lot of time has passed since the release of season 1, a lot has changed in my life)
The last season as farewell came out well. But the series itself is a bit strange, yes) At least it was brought to some kind of logical conclusion, many Netflix series of those years died after 1-2 seasons.
P.S. Before watching this season, I watched the series Black Matter, where the plot was based on the multiverse, it's funny)
ArtisFear
17 Aug 04:40 # Show original
I will ask a question that may have already been asked (or an answer was given to it), but still. If Reggie sprayed marigold, then why didn't the moms of all the guys just gain superpowers themselves? Why did they all get pregnant as one and only then gave birth to children with superpowers...?
-Holycow-
17 Aug 06:06 # Show original
@ArtisFear: Here, rather, again, the authors of the 4th season stared into their eyes at this moment and spraying with subsequent short-term pregnancy should have been waiting for Hargreaves, as for the male sex, it is more difficult there - well, than not an option pupation and rebirth) So yes, it was correctly noted how everything was for everyone...
Adrasteya
18 Aug 19:04 # Show original
@ArtisFear: That's how they got pregnant when I sprayed them, and they took this one inside. Plus, they already had the strength before.
-Holycow-
18 Aug 19:10 # Show original
@Adrasteya: and if you put it through your veins, you will turn into a tree - everything sounds very logical and convincing)
ohhnasty
PRO
17 Aug 11:52 # Show original
The fifth one is the only one I watched this series for.
Shaidy
17 Aug 19:19 # Show original
Victor was trying to persuade Reginald not to kill Ben, because Victor could take the marigold out of him. When it turned out that it was the merigold in them that was the cause of the constant ends of the world, Victor was like, "fuck it, we're dying," instead of taking the merigold from them all. The father from this universe accepted him, the character gets what he was waiting for, well, at least offer to take them to Marigold, don't you? Or to explain somehow why he suddenly can't do it now, can't he?
Lol457
17 Aug 22:06 # Show original
I really thought it would all end on season three. The ending was normal, they lost their strength and are now living their lives, but no, the fourth season. Okay, we all understand the plot is just terrible, both in general and the end, although the beginning was still not bad. Apart from that, it was a disappointment for me that the heroes had lost something, lost themselves. And as for me, the screenwriters are to blame for this again, well, actors can't play familiar roles badly. I fell in love with these characters in the first season for the comedic beginning and a bit of exaggeration. An arrogant, short-tempered genius, ready to do anything for the sake of his family and saving the world. A junkie and an alcoholic who is always relaxed, on his own wave, also sees ghosts, etc. That's why I fell in love with this strange unusual series and I'm really sorry that it ended like this. It would have been better if the author of the original source hadn't left, I don't know...
AtomicTroll
18 Aug 00:09 # Show original
A bad ending, but not because they all disappeared hopelessly and irrevocably (we don't count the flowers), but just an unrealistically stupid mess of storylines all season, and incompetent in their scenario value and the development of events, just something vague, as if the creators couldn't figure out where to shove the characters, until at the end everything is resolved in the last about 40 minutes. The whole season, only the actors pulled on themselves, but they could not save this, the plot was hopeless.
Kentavr
18 Aug 07:00 # Show original
Oh, it's sad. You can say a lot, want to do a lot differently, but they will still be missed. And it's even sadder that they didn't give us their dance. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution.
I'm going to review the first seasons and listen from there to Tiffany - I Think We're Alone Now, The Phantom of the Opera performed by Lindsey Stirling, Istanbul performed by They Might Be Giants, Kiss – I Was Made for Lovin’ You and a dozen others… Wow, how much good music they've piled up!
Hello! Good bye!
zhosman-kinoman
PRO
18 Aug 13:01 # Show original
As for the songs, yes, I've put together a whole playlist from that series for myself 👌🏽😁
Jessicа
18 Aug 12:52 # Show original
It feels like if Dad hadn't killed himself in season 1 and left them alone, they wouldn't have gathered and there wouldn't have been the end of the world.
-Holycow-
18 Aug 13:30 # Show original
@Jessisa: Vanya would have become a Nuclear violin anyway, and the story that the scribe leads the whole world to paradise on Earth stumbles over the moment that when the 5th dropped out of chronology, the world came to an end, but there was no reboot, well, or if the squid girl was neutralized, then still what Has Chief Hargreaves been planning all this time? We'll never know because... Fuck us, that's why)
Foxander
18 Aug 15:56 # Show original
The ending is bad in itself, of course, and the message of suicide is the solution to all troubles is even worse, but doesn't the scene after the credits kill everything to hell? Purification was necessary to completely remove Marigold from the world, to purify it, which is what the name implies. In the scene after the credits, we are shown flowers from which the same pollen flew out, that is, it didn't clear a damn thing. If the pollen remains, then the end of the world will happen again, but without the main characters who died for nothing Well, being a selfish person, I would just jump from branch to branch with the whole family and live my best life. There are an infinite number of branches, you can get out anywhere and move at any time, their powers allow it. Why not then?
-Holycow-
18 Aug 16:32 # Show original
@Foxander: It seems to me that commentators have more motivation to build a logical conclusion to the story than the authors of the 4th season, and professional aptitude) You know, I would love to watch a 3-hour conversational dramedy in which Reginald and his children sit in a mansion and find out their origin and purpose adjusted for new circumstances, simultaneously explaining all the plot holes and the inconsistencies of previous seasons, I would even be satisfied with the explanation that Hargreaves raised the children to prove to his wife that she had created something good, but the experiment turned out to be unsuccessful and they could go on their way, and Reginald just lost the bet... but we don't always get what we want, but we get some, ..., pen samples.....
Hidji
18 Aug 23:44 # Show original
@Foxander: suicide propaganda for those who consider themselves to be individuals harmful to society. Maybe their value matrix has shifted and now it is considered normal).
AD-Rock
18 Aug 16:52 # Show original
Heh. I'm still watching for a minute and a half - I wonder how many times these sectarians gathered in such a crowd after hearing Muse on the radio)
orranj
PRO
10 Sep 00:18 # Show original
@AD-Rock: I also thought about it, but there seems to be a specific frequency set up, their personal guardian radio. another thing is that it is impossible to listen only to this frequency everywhere and always, no, no, you will hear music somewhere)
somniferous
18 Aug 20:19 # Show original
It would seem that there is such a thing, there are only 4 seasons, and after watching my brain resembles a subway map, in which you will not understand where you will find yourself.
kikajan
18 Aug 22:25 # Show original
I am surprised by such negative comments and ratings on IMDB. The season, of course, turned out to be a trifle against the background of the previous ones. But I would not record this finale in the rating of the most impetuous finales of good TV series.
svetskayababe
19 Aug 00:19 # Show original
But it is necessary. None of the questions from the end of season 3 are closed. Hargreaves was also not what we saw last season. The woman turned out to be empty, just like, "I didn't want to come back to life," so she didn't seem to die? What happened in oblivion? The point was to reset the timeline, but in the end it turned out ... to be honest, it's unclear what happened. At the end of season 4, the multiverse suddenly turns out to be, when at the end of season 3 they kind of all just existed in the same time line, changing it. It is unclear in short. Nonsense.
svetskayababe
19 Aug 00:19 # Show original
Jennifer is a dummy, Sloan was a dummy last season. What the two Bens were shown for at the end of the third season is unclear.
svetskayababe
19 Aug 00:20 # Show original
The storyline of the Fifth and Laila was sucked out of the finger, the storyline with Laila's lies did not play Diego, J. and J. were not disclosed, Hargreaves' wife was not disclosed, no one was disclosed. Why their abilities work differently is unclear.
-Holycow-
19 Aug 00:30 # Show original
@kikajan: quite naturally. Few people like stories that end with the universe collapsing and you being returned to your starting point and you feel like you've wasted time on a puff, it's annoying.
Lighthouse012
18 Aug 23:15 # Show original
When you build a multiverse, you need to think through every detail. How did the relatives survive? Why did the destruction of Merigold in one universe collapse everything to the state of a single universe? Why does Marigold have such catastrophic consequences for the world? What was perhaps possible here was to show the connections within the family. Everyone eventually found their own truth. Seeing his father's approval, Klaus realized that he was not alone. The first one had a match with a knife thrower. Poor guy five suddenly found love in Laila. Laila has reconciled with her husband. Ben, who sacrificed himself. A strange, dysfunctional family that is trying to find a foothold and who find it in the same broken relatives. Technically, the plot moves and the work of the universe did not work out very well, but emotionally, yes. I still expected in the end that they had survived. Without Marigold, without memories, but still survived. On the other hand, a natural end for a family whose end of the world is an ordinary environment and who find it so difficult to find a place in life (which is still not very convenient for them)
svetskayababe
18 Aug 23:36 # Show original
What a mess
fiery_matsu
PRO
19 Aug 00:28 # Show original
It was a good series🥲
There is a little scene after the credits🌝
SS_orb
19 Aug 01:23 # Show original
I love the first 3 seasons so much, the 4th one is like a spit in the soul for me
terrible + cringe + holes + ultra cringe of an unnecessary novel + loss of all the character developments that were before
child_bluda
19 Aug 11:34 # Show original
There was a warning not to watch one of the previous episodes.
Thanks for it again. I wish I'd listened.
what was it all about and was it necessary at all? it was worth stopping at the 3rd.
zyyfff
19 Aug 11:57 # Show original
I've wanted to write for a long time, but somehow I forgot everything. About Ben at the end of season 3. Maybe it was his commercial for cryptocurrency? Well , the patamushta theories about two Bins and a temporary subway didn 't burn out .
zyyfff
19 Aug 12:08 # Show original
Impressions... Sad ones. I won't say that the final is the bottom, but I can't attribute it to the best either. If I review the series, I will forget about the 4th season altogether, as if it does not exist. It's a shame, of course, this is not what I expected for the characters 😓
Cheryl
19 Aug 15:33 # Show original
It's not as bad as I thought, it's much worse.
stay8_skz
19 Aug 21:35 # Show original
I was a little disappointed with the finale, I didn't expect this... Well, as they say, don't build expectations - you won't get disappointed.
I even felt a little sorry for Diego, Lila and the Fifth. We couldn't even really talk about this situation. I understand the feelings of each of them, so I see no point in blaming anyone.
icon
19 Aug 21:44 # Show original
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19 Aug 21:46 # Show original
I will miss the humor of Klaus, the duo of Klaus and Ben, the arrogant Fifth and the cheeky Diego, and of course their mother and the good times
child_bluda
19 Aug 22:04 # Show original
@icon: this Ben is not so bad, but the good, mind-blowing duo of Ben and Klaus ended after our Ben's death.
StrawberryGo
PRO
20 Aug 11:21 # Show original
An epic ending. It's necessary, as they believe a brother. He alone thought, said and all collapsed))
retr0
20 Aug 12:03 # Show original
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retr0
20 Aug 12:13 # Show original
I'll miss you, Hargreaves family!
Liza
20 Aug 22:50 # Show original
I was pleased with the song Muse in the series, although I waited for Michael all season, but apparently this action was only in the trailer))
In the end, it seemed that I was watching another episode of Dark Matter, especially where there were many Fifths, well, I couldn't help but remember the ending of Dark It seems to have done well for everyone, but it's so sad 🥲 light sadness
blacki3
21 Aug 00:57 # Show original
A very bad ending. I was so excited about this series and the crazy family, and in the end it all came down to this... I immediately remembered the finale of Darkness. But there such a turn was at least natural, though sad, and why there is such a thing - I do not understand. As if the screenwriters simply couldn't squeeze anything out of themselves and just erased people from reality. And along with them, all the undisclosed topics that you will get tired of listing here. It turned out to be a sloppy season. Despite the fact that there were funny moments in it. But in general, the finale was simply leaked. It's a pity. The series had a good level.
Vadimboy
21 Aug 01:15 # Show original
I wanted to delay the time so I could stay with the Hargreaves a little longer. What a shit this fourth season is. It would seem that the creators had only 6 episodes. It was possible to make a complete and beautiful ending story. But no: 1) A thousand fillers were stuffed into it, which repeat (!) already passed topics, as it happened with Klaus, or do not reveal the characters at all (why are Luther, Diego and Allison here, what have they been doing all season?). 2) We have a romantic line that no one asked for. 3) Collapsing into one timeline is not only stolen from Loki, it is also implemented stupidly. Why did the family survive? Shouldn't they have died on the subway? All this breaks the season completely. I got into the ending anyway, because I really love these characters, any ending would have made me cry. And even a piano with erasing itself from reality (it's not so bad) it could have turned out if the writers had built it correctly in the plot, throughout all 6 episodes. The impotence of the screenwriters killed
Gastya
21 Aug 02:43 # Show original
I really hate the fact that Ben and his girlfriend watched a Blob at the hotel, and then they turned into a blob themselves :D
orranj
PRO
10 Sep 00:27 #
@Gastya: блин))))))
Владислав-95
21 Aug 17:36 # Show original
Something the series began for health, ended for peace.
nastya2106
21 Aug 17:46 # Show original
Favorites 🥰 the only series I didn't want to end 🫠
badertan
21 Aug 20:11 # Show original
Oh, what a hyperfixation I had on the first and second seasons and how strangely it all ended... I sincerely felt sorry for the Fifth in love, he had such a sad puppy look, I generally expected the worst from the ending, but it is quite tolerable, although I would like more episodes and disclosure of some details. I'm going to miss you, crazy family.🫶🏻
vseslav
21 Aug 21:23 # Show original
A good ending to the saga, I liked it
KILLJOYNASTICORN
22 Aug 04:01 # Show original
Does it bother anyone that Ray just left Allison? well, this is purely VTF, even if something did not work out with the actor's schedule, it would be more plausible to "kill" him somehow, a type of car accident, xs. and then he just left when he loved so much? well xs. Well, thanks, at least you mentioned it for a second. and Sloane, who in fact turned out to be the love of Luther's life, mentioned Luther once 🤡
KILLJOYNASTICORN
22 Aug 04:04 # Show original
It is also very sad that the song my chemical romance was not used as a "cry". yes, the muses are undoubtedly good too, and the song is cool, but damn, many people started watching the series because of the comic book by Gerard Way (lead singer of mcr) and it would be a very cool detail. famous last words would be great, for example. and so in the end, only the trailer was inserted for this season.. Well, thanks for that, I guess
amadei
22 Aug 15:16 # Show original
For me, the Fifth was the closest character with an interesting storyline in literally all seasons. Klaus was a kind of Pierrot - sad clown. I can't help but note the feeling of joy and pride for him that he didn't drink sake. The season started cheerfully and abruptly, ended more...dramatic, or something (not to say sluggish). The moment when Laila takes a step out the door - just bravo to both the actress, and the directors, and the camera work - honestly, it took my breath away, how cool they conveyed this feeling of necessity and a little death literally in one second. The photo of the shooting process and the scene after the credits left a pleasant aftertaste.
max_wheel
22 Aug 20:09 # Show original
Once again, I am convinced that the most important thing in the series is to finish it at least more or less logically and clearly, and not with another piece of shit on a shovel. Not many people succeed, so the Academy failed.
vSeregaSv
22 Aug 22:26 # Show original
This is not the ending I was waiting for, but the final season as a whole is not the best.
black_cat11
23 Aug 07:11 # Show original
Well, yes, but thank you for Agnes and Hazel, returned to the first season beautifully 💜
Margarits
23 Aug 21:35 # Show original
How bad and disgusting....
P.S. I don't even have the desire to describe why, to discuss something. Therefore, only 2 words
Hamali666
24 Aug 05:39 # Show original
That's it, Finita. Or do the flowers at the end say the opposite?! I liked the season in principle, better than the previous one, such a straight-forward rapidly developing plot (sometimes even too fast). It was even a little sad that the end was over, but on the other hand, enough is enough.
Doctor_13
24 Aug 15:04 # Show original
Even somehow there were not enough episodes, or something. There are also events on Christmas Eve, and they were rolled out in the summer
davidadam
24 Aug 15:40 # Show original
Yeah, wasted time. The finale: a la there is no man - there is no problem for yourself, but make the final twist that there is a man and the problem has resolved could not. I would like them to be born as little people, but without super abilities, I don't say anything about children at all. Their children appeared out of nowhere.
umka_pumka
24 Aug 20:40 # Show original
Very contradictory feelings remained from watching the entire season and especially from the final episode. They've been muddied, mixed, and cleansed in some ugly way, I don't understand what. A crumpled story, unanswered questions. I love the Hargreaves family, but no season is better than this. To finish on the third would be quite normal. Although it's a pity to say goodbye to everyone, of course. I'm going to miss you.
Maybe I missed it, but why was the girl found in the squid in the first place? Did the screenwriters just want to? And why wouldn't she and Ben turn into a huge squid instead of this miserable something...
For some reason, it also raised a lot of questions that everything was happening around Christmas time. Was the series originally supposed to be released at the end of December?
-Holycow-
24 Aug 21:04 # Show original
@umka_pumka: I can, again, assume that the Hargreaves family is from the squid civilization, and Ben carried rudimentary echoes in himself, and Jen is one of the inhuman experiments of Reggie's wife, including killing self-like and dissecting, and since they have a squidogen, they can arrange a squid painting together, and the rest of the family members are balast... it seems to me that my theory is more consistent and it can be polished)
umka_pumka
26 Aug 12:36 # Show original
@-Holycow-: Cool theory! Thanks for sharing. I'll think so, this option perfectly covers some of the gaps of the season :)
JonMalkov
25 Aug 00:36 # Show original
Which voice acting is as close as possible to the dubbing from Netflix? So used to those voices
Hamali666
25 Aug 01:42 # Show original
I looked from RHS and even this time they are not very good, but I still watched 😂try cutting or tvshows..
Adrasteya
29 Aug 16:17 # Show original
@Hamali666: tvshows are censored, so at your own risk.
Hamali666
31 Aug 14:11 # Show original
So he asked for closer to dubbing, but as usual in dubbing there is always censorship, so I advised tvshek)
filimonov_a_n
25 Aug 09:59 # Show original
What a funny ending... Ala "12 monkeys" Why would you do that? We could just jump into the past and kill the blonde who came up with the magic concoction. They would show why their mother died. Close the loop. Well, I'm hz, just tentacles with monsters? I didn't wait a year for this)))) I want a separate series about the fifth!!!!
zula22
25 Aug 11:12 # Show original
And I thought I was the only one who didn't like it. I finished eating. of course, thanks for Muse, but the season is terrible. And how and when did the seven find out about Marigold?
zula22
25 Aug 11:12 # Show original
And I thought I was the only one who didn't like it. I finished eating. of course, thanks for Muse, but the season is terrible. And how and when did the seven find out about Marigold?
Adrasteya
29 Aug 16:16 # Show original
@zula22: in Season 3, when the universe was relaunched.
dalaukar
25 Aug 18:12 # Show original
A great ending - they drowned in shit with their whole moronic family and died. Well ok.
it_was_me
26 Aug 10:24 # Show original
A strange ending. And Hargreaves' wife stirred up strange things, took and destroyed the world, although everyone lived normally.
Julia_G_White
26 Aug 11:16 # Show original
And I liked it 😁 Everyone is always unhappy The logical conclusion
KurtadaBlainavra
26 Aug 16:38 # Show original
It's a shame that the next series was ruined by a ridiculous script, undisclosed lines, plot holes and characters who suddenly start behaving like an idiot. I wanted a grandiose and satisfying conclusion to the story, but all I got was a fart into the void. The only thing I liked was the very beautiful and atmospheric shots of winter American nature and a small town. Well, the soundtracks are at their best as usual. One umbrella out of five this season.
bobbyroad
26 Aug 16:58 # Show original
Well, a tedious series, of course. Just snot
Katherine_San
26 Aug 18:11 # Show original
It feels like there was no previous season at all As if a bunch of events from there didn't affect anything
adavaitvoyamat
26 Aug 22:21 # Show original
The ending is a shock. it was too unexpected, as they wrote above: "it was easier for the screenwriters to merge the characters than to figure out how to save them," and this is a very sad fact. I really loved the characters and the series, but the ending was terribly leaked 💔
dicaprioonelove
26 Aug 22:43 # Show original
Yeah, well, the ending... thanks for the fifth and his smile 🥰 It would be better if they stayed in the subway 🥺💔
RitaSamoilo
PRO
27 Aug 12:44 # Show original
When season 3 ended, I thought the series was over, too. And then hop season 4 in 6 episodes. They decided to end everything completely. Okay, I really love seasons 1 and 2. In general, thanks to the creators😍
Sensation2102
28 Aug 11:01 #
annaruana
28 Aug 15:56 # Show original
When muse started playing from the first seconds, I was hoping for a cool ending, but it wasn't there.
saven95
28 Aug 23:27 # Show original
There's a sad Loki somewhere
Margo_Darling
30 Aug 07:14 # Show original
No matter what anyone says, the season is better than the 3rd. There was a desire to review everything, especially season 1. Yes, there are enough questions left, but the story itself, the actors, the atmosphere have done their job and I don't even want to dig into the flaws. It's not strange, but I've been waiting for the spike of the Fifth and Laila since season 2. Yes, they look cool with Diego, but these sparks of the Fifth and Laila... Aiden Gallagher played an adult so smartly that even at 17 he was perceived as Laila's equal in age. Speaking of Gallagher. I consider him a new rising star for five years now, it's a pity that he doesn't act much, he's a talented guy and very handsome. Yes, there were a lot of shipp dramas, but it's been so long since I've watched anything romantic that I've been into it. And even all these cliches. Victor's line is great this season. Their connection with Ben, papallelle with the second season, which made me cry for half the series, his confidence and, finally, proof to my father that his strength is worthy of being part of the team. The rest were somehow not affected by the development. Allison is still the savior of all, Klaus is still weak in spirit, Luther is stupid and strong, and Diego is a fanatic. It is sad that it so happened that in fact none of them achieved anything new, if not degraded. Well, okay, Diego seems like a normal father. Overall, the ending is very sad. I hoped that they would be born, but without Marigold, but alas. I cried for half an episode because it was very sad. And Ben's connection with Vanya, and the fact that as a result they all died, or rather were never born. But this is probably the logical ending for the whole story. It was nice to see the cameos of the heroes of previous seasons)) I will definitely review the entire series later.
vezuchau
30 Aug 13:55 # Show original
This season is such a durango. the last two episodes are just something, they recruit idiots who don't know how to write a script, and then sit and watch and think about why and why it exists.
Eugen_Glau
30 Aug 18:07 # Show original
How stupidly the series ended. This is one of the most merged finales, and this despite the fact that no matter how the series raises the bar, it gradually slides down. But the past seasons have led their narrative and at least on some emotional levers they left. There were connections with the previous ones and it somehow influenced the characters. And in this "we are a family and we are a problem - let's die", no questions and arches were closed, everything was reduced to the importance of Victor (sorry, Vanya), although its importance was never shown, because "I will persuade" does not count. I would understand if she sacrificed herself, they say, a reference to the first part, I will correct myself and all that as having arranged the first apocalypse. But OK, they're all guilty for some reason, they could have shown it. And not to reduce everything to midi-chlorians, oh, sorry to Mary-gold. Why Ben is the only one. They all had these chlorians. Why didn't Ben say anything to Klaus about this incident, even though he appeared to him all the time, they couldn't erase his memory. The only thing is that the almighty script wiped everything away. In short, there are a lot of questions, and so to merge the finale on the fading so compared to the first season of the series, you still have to try. But other seasons have at least contributed something. And this one is in the furnace for clumsiness!👎🏾
Wefast
30 Aug 23:44 # Show original
The series sometimes weighed in with its randomness in the plot. There has never been much of a complete story, and everything that has been squandered more and more with each season. It took me a long time to finish watching the series.
The fifth is the most interesting character for me. There are 100 times more dramas in his history than the whole family. And that's why this cute novel by the Fifth and Laila in the form of an mb fanservice really came to me. Because otherwise, the plot has been sucked out of my finger for a long time. As well as the motives of the heroes' actions.
P.S. I don't understand why his character was rewritten to please Page. The hero did not have the same path as the actor. It looks so-so. Well, in principle, the entire character's arch was merged to the end.
In principle, I am happy with the ending. There are no very stupid super heroes - no problem. We were shown that there will be no super happy end if they are left without strength. And it's hard to believe that everything could be very good for everyone.
p.p.s. of course, if you find fault, then I don't understand why I self-released these versions, destroyed all the other branches and erased them from history, in principle. I thought they would go at the moment when their mothers got pregnant, prevent the spread of Mary gold, and then time itself would erase all other branches and themselves. And here it is already possible to show how they were born ordinary people and lived some kind of their lives separately or something brought them together
MarkFairvud
31 Aug 10:43 # Show original
In fact, season 4 consisted of some meaningless body movements. and the feeling does not leave that they galloped through Europe, while cramming a bunch of unnecessary actions. There are a lot of plot blunders.. Despite the fact that the ending is generally logical, the question remains: what was the point of it then? Why shoot as many as 4 seasons, so that in the end you can say " everything should have ended on the first"? It is this "incomprehensibility" personally, in my opinion, adds a huge disadvantage. Such an interesting storyline, wonderful actors, well-written characters, all this... it turns out it was in vain. And what the authors hoped for when they simply zeroed out their own work. I would have understood more if the characters had stayed alive. By the way, the third season ends much better, everyone went their own way, the super powers disappeared from the world, there were no those who created the end of the world, therefore the world did not need to be saved. But... We have what we have. Despite the merged ending, the series deserves attention anyway, it was interesting to watch the characters. But I'm definitely not going to review it, because what's the point? All this should not have happened..)
Катерина2
31 Aug 20:45 # Show original
The recipe for this series: A little bit of Rick's vibe (from Rick and Morty, where there is also a council of Ricks from different universes) + the finale of the series Darkness = the finale of the Umbrella season
Well, it's a pity a little.
PlanePassenger
01 Sep 05:26 # Show original
@Катерина2: The Rick Council is a reference to the Reed Council from the Fantastic Four
VeresNa
31 Aug 21:03 # Show original
I don't like finals in the style of 'in general, everyone died " well, shtosh. It was a good series.
naumenkovika
01 Sep 09:16 # Show original
I didn't expect this to be the series finale. sorry
posredstveno
01 Sep 21:08 # Show original
There was no excitement from the last episode and from the whole season in principle. Unintelligible, crumpled and strange. It is clearly different from the first three, which were bombed)
mary_01
04 Sep 08:12 # Show original
A great ending. I liked everything. The series will remain in the heart of ❤❤❤❤❤❤
hinarien
04 Sep 11:44 # Show original
It's a very strange feeling from the finale in particular and the whole season. I mean, yes, by the end of the second season, it became clear that the way they save the universe, it would be better not to save it. But still, the option of "let's stand and wait for the monster to devour us" is somehow, well... why couldn't Victor, who was trying to pull durango out of Ben, pull Marigold out of them all into a jar and just give it to Ben? Why couldn't he take Marigold for himself and heroically devour the monster, canceling all those apocalypses that he caused himself, like a White Violin? It would make a good character arch from "I'll kill you all" to "I'll save you all." Why did the children of the characters survive? Why was the awkward arc of the Fifth novel with Lila necessary? Why was Lila's drama with Diego if it wasn't really resolved, except for "well, we're all going to die, let's make up"? Why was there a big part of this season at all? Why were they all so ugly? What did Hagreaves' wife want anyway? Why couldn't Marigold have been shoved into someone else/someone else and pushed against Jennifer? There are more questions than answers. The second episode was good and in the spirit of previous seasons. The rest... Why? "Personal dramas" look strained and artificial in most cases, like Victor's showdown with the folder, Klaus's with his sister, and the rest.
Fin
07 Sep 13:35 # Show original
The prize for the most stupid and meaningless ending of all time.
sai_
07 Sep 17:31 # Show original
Is that all? Is that it, the end? to be honest, it turned out to be kind of boring, I kept thinking that there would be some kind of scene after the credits, where the sequel would be announced (which I also would not like), but no, it ended somehow strangely
Vasiys
07 Sep 21:14 # Show original
The beginning of the last, final episode is generally super. Girl, turn on the song - the track is just super, I love this song, just a cannon💥 Damn, I can't the series is awesome👍 When everyone was riding in the van, again this cool song Akulenok 🤣😂 I can't go crazy, Akulenok 🤣😂 But the series ended on a sad note, I did not think that this was how the entire series and all 4 seasons that we watched would end. I, and probably Many, still hoped for the best, that they would remain in another normal reality without abilities and powers, and would continue to live a happy and simple life. But no, they really all died, for the sake of saving the world😭 All the characters will always remain in my heart❤❤ The series was really cool 100% all the characters are cool and well chosen
arihhaa
08 Sep 02:33 # Show original
Fifth 💔
nurai_6
08 Sep 13:31 # Show original
Goodbye, Umbrella Academy, honestly, I'm going to miss the guys. Thanks to the creators for the emotions presented.
Haven
08 Sep 21:02 # Show original
It's just a merged series finale that took years to complete. It was nice to see the familiar characters again, but in fact they just never existed. It's the first time it's burned like this, although I'm a fan of a Song of Ice and Fire.
Okay, it's just a series. Someday I won't exist either.
averroman
11 Sep 09:37 # Show original
The average series ended with a bad season. If you replace the plot with an agenda, nothing but shit will work
OlgaKiselyova
11 Sep 18:53 #
Мда
Mandr1ck
11 Sep 21:32 # Show original
I started crying for something. I've been watching it for so many years...
Aidan Gallagher grew up with an unreal crash, even with this hairstyle
Hannah_Abbot
PRO
13 Sep 17:00 #
Всё откладывала просмотр последней серии из-за отзывов на тумбе, но финал, по сравнению с еле шевелящимся сезоном, был вполне бодрым. Ну и меня в принципе ещё с Доктора Кто размазывают всякие сюжеты о потерях памяти, так что сердечко всё равно разбилось. Начала смотреть сериал из-за Пятого и из--за него, в общем-то, и домучивала до конца.
afrikata
13 Sep 18:50 # Show original
How it bombs me that we ended up like this! The screenwriters did not even try to make a logical ending, not only according to the main plot (about the time line), but also so that the actions of the characters looked logical. The biggest disappointment is that Reginald Hargreaves just agreed with his wife, and his paternity line was never finished, just cut off. I see that no matter how difficult his relationship with these children was, he still felt something for them. Therefore, I should not have folded my paws, but answered my wife something like: No, my children/relatives will die, I don't want to lose them - in fact, he invested a lot in them, and they became his family (even if not in this version of Reginald). Therefore, it would be logical for this character to stop merging with the monster at the last moment and make sure, for example, that they never got to him, grew up with their mothers, never discovered their powers (or discovered them, but used them otherwise, not to save the world). But then we would see that they somehow get to know each other by chance anyway, and Reginald is watching them from the sidelines. For me personally, such an ending would be more satisfying and would not destroy the Academy universe forever.
Adrasteya
17 Sep 10:42 # Show original
@afrikata: what you are suggesting is completely contrary to the idea and plot of the series, as well as the character of the characters. It would be a dull fanservice, meaningless and merciless.
-Holycow-
17 Sep 12:17 # Show original
@Adrasteya: The creation of season 4 is a dull fanservice, meaningless and merciless. And the idea that Reginald, in an attempt to resurrect his love, creates an instrument, and then changes his attitude towards it, and changes when interacting with his students, is a good trope with the right approach. Here's the idea that it's necessary to rewind everything before the start, I don't like it at all, and even more so when all the main characters are soaked at the end, it would be fine if there was still one person and he died heroically, but the whole cast, well, they had to turn over in the car to make it even more dramatic)) If you have a lot of characters and at the end of the series they don't learn anything and don't come to anything, then it's all pointless... The conclusion that "you are a mistake", which is extrapolated to the audience, is not very cool and useful)
Buloch114ка
14 Sep 07:11 # Show original
I love this series with all my heart, but I want to send season 4 in three letters, honestly. I watched and was horrified at what was done to my favorite characters (so to smash to the end the already broken heroes, of course, you have to try), what was done with the musical accompaniment and spectacular scenes. Where is it all? Then I found a playlist separately and listened to it. The music is really good and quite umbrella. But the problem is that in the first three seasons, the plot and the songs went hand in hand. The song moved the moment, and the moment complemented the song. This is how a memorable twist is created. In season 4, you can count such moments on your fingers, although the academy is usually very generous with this. Season 4 is simple... Sadly. What is in terms of heroes, what is in terms of interactions, or rather, their absence, which is in general. It's all very, very sad
Atia
15 Sep 22:57 # Show original
There is no Roskomnadzor on them. This is incitement to suicide. Now I'm going to read the comments.
Кепка_Марка
17 Sep 08:32 # Show original
What's wrong with the ending of season 3? They have become ordinary, they live on. But the screenwriters were abruptly forced to kill them.... And the method chosen is disgusting ((((
7 years in the subway, within 5 minutes of screen time - why do you need it at all?!
And the couple Leila and the Fifth, like Rachel and Joey in Friends, are not at all ale.
Vasiys
17 Sep 09:13 # Show original
@CAP_MARK: I support, I said the same thing above. That season 3 was much cooler and the ending was wonderful. But the truth is, the screenwriters wanted action. But I have never seen sadder endings in the series. Bring them all back and give them strength again to kill them all in the end. It's a pity and a shame that this is the end of the series 😔😔😔😒😒😒
Кепка_Марка
17 Sep 22:16 # Show original
@Vasiys: They couldn't...
-Holycow-
17 Sep 09:26 # Show original
@Cap_mark: 7 years in the subway was a thorough preparation for dipping characters into the fecal sewage of the final chord. After all, they showed so wonderfully how these 7 years affected Laila and 5m, 7 years have passed (you live like this in shit, war, gardening, then you returned to the original chronology and say everything is normal, drove on, I'm ready right now, as if it were yesterday) that would be the 5th in the 1st season appeared and I started to whip up a fever not about the end of the world, but about the fact that what the hell did you leave and where Ben and dad are, I missed everything and how to continue living ...) and no changes - it's brilliant, almost as brilliant as 6 years at the beginning of the 1st series, and if they weren't if they erased it, then it would be possible to squander it for another 10 years and everything would be exactly the same, because why any development, why wait for anything at all...
Кепка_Марка
17 Sep 22:18 # Show original
@-Holycow-: You're stuck! Thank you for your opinion.
-Holycow-
18 Sep 01:57 # Show original
@Cap_mark: well, not really, the horse died in the middle of the 3rd season, and this is so, its further operation, so there was not much hope initially)
Кепка_Марка
17 Sep 08:34 # Show original
But the Easter egg was given with cats sooo much fun!
LUXEON
Yesterday, 00:34 # Show original
I'm probably the only one who was touched by the sad love story of Layla and the Fifth, especially when they had to come back and couldn't erase those years and feelings. Of course, it was very crumpled and careless, but I was sad for them. I don't think the ending is terrible either, everything has been put back in place. I'm going to miss the weird family.
-Holycow-
Yesterday, 06:01 # Show original
@LUXEON: Alas, not the only one. As for the ending, there is such a film "this wonderful life", he is 80 years old, and the main idea there is that if a person had not been born the world would not have become better, here exactly the opposite - they found a scapegoat and everyone is happy that finally he is no more and in There are no more problems in the world. It's stupid, it's some kind of farce and a fabulous ending, what he's doing here is absolutely incomprehensible.
mcmcmax437
Yesterday, 09:40 # Show original
Phew, well, what can I say - they started for health, finished for peace. The beginning was pretty good, in the style of the old seasons - but by the end everything had already slipped to what, I can't figure it out myself. The storyline of Laila and the Fifth is very, very strained and inserted for no clear reason? So that she understands the value of the family before death, or just not to kill everyone, but to end on a positive note of saving the family.... Another obvious disadvantage was that the characters do not use their abilities, in moments when they need it, they simply forget about them or do not specifically demonstrate them. Especially Vanya - in the first seasons, he (she) was the most powerful being capable of literally destroying the world, right there she is only able to crush her grandfather and then, without pressing + I read there from above that people wrote they say "this is an analogy for control, imunoblockers, etc.", but I will tell you this - this branch of the relationship She didn't touch me with my father, I just don't believe her. It can be seen that initially there should have been 2 women in the team, but after a "successful" sex change and getting into the script, we had to actively change everything, shove Lila and the conflict with my father (who was more or less excellent before the finale of season 3). Now, even though Vanya is trying to play, there is no strong male character in his attempts, which he should be. Literally because of his weakness, the world died, you pin Ben down with force and take Veteligo away and everything would be fine - no need to try to solve everything with snotty pleas, and then pass out from one blow of the tentacle "still the strongest character (no)" That's where I think the presentations are over - everything else is done well and how the final finale fits. My verdict is 8 pet monkeys out of 10 (-1 for the strange and out of nowhere love story of Laila and the fifth, -1 for Vanya's weak game and for his weakness as a character. The original conflict between father and daughter became a conflict between father and son)
Blah, blah, it doesn't make sense to make Victor transgender. He literally spent his whole life on ability blockers and being under the suggestion of Allison that he was ordinary (wow, can this also inspire cisgenderism???). Victor literally spends season 1 and 2 in an identity crisis and finally comes to harmony with himself in season 3. Once again, it MAKES SENSE
💔 This series just killed me
Thank you to the Academy for lighting his star again
The laser from the eyes has not been explained, as well as many other questions from different seasons.
In general, if we look at it, it turned out to be a pretty good story.
The scene after the credits really came out touching, only the flowers of the tree remained from the eight, well, at least something)
I hope I explained it clearly
I do not undertake to assert the truth, but I see it this way)))
And how are their children alive if they are not in the original timeline?
it took me a long time to get used to the rules of time travel, watching Marvel. as a result, I realized everything in half with grief. and then there are such jokes with children))))) IT WAS HARD ENOUGH FOR ME, DON'T BREAK MY BRAIN AND IDEAS ABOUT TIME
it's corny, simple, but happy and in general, life has not been lived in vain, we have achieved balance and deserve a normal life
Allison was successful in all universes, although she started life from scratch three times. In the original she was a superstar, in the 60s she lived happily married with a wonderful husband, this season she lived in a beautiful house with a loving daughter and had a stable job (albeit less famous), she also pulled her brother around her neck.
And Klaus would have kept himself well tied up, if only his dibilistic family hadn't egged him on. He even threw sake over his shoulder when caring relatives shoved a glass under his nose. I was really proud of him at that moment. But when the whole brain is burned by drugs and alcohol, it's hard to find any joy in normal life, and nevertheless he tried
There is a problem with the marigold, which gives strength, they removed it, the children took the subway to the main world, the worlds were erased.
personally, I did not pay for watching, the bazaar is zero, but the commentator above was not talking about himself personally, but about the fans and the crowd in general. Wasn't the series filmed for them?
And about the cancellation of shitty projects, we also know such precedents — for example, Batgirl.
You need to shoot for yourself, so that you like it yourself, and not try to meet the expectations of those who are sitting at the screen.
I'll tell you a secret, there is usually a whole staff of screenwriters and a director working on projects, who are just hired workers. All they want is to get a po and try (and not always) not to make shit and not to ruin their career with a shitty project.
The way you think you should do it and the way they actually do it are different things. If the series lives for 100,500 seasons, as you write, then this is a successful series that the audience watches and which brings money. And they will stuff the fanservice there — just to keep watching. The quality of a product does not necessarily correlate with its profitability. Sometimes shit can be super profitable and popular. Are Marvel films masterpieces of world cinema?
It turns out that targeting fans is more effective in terms of doing business? Oh, we didn't think so. Congratulations, you've fucked up your own argument.
Not all Kevin Costners with their Horizons or Francis Ford Coppola with Megalopolis, who at their advanced age can finally shoot something for themselves for their own money.
Do you even understand how a movie is made? That it all starts with the idea that the script is being written on, and then they are looking for funding and those who want to participate in this case. And in order to get a good product at the exit, in this process there should be no thoughts about how much the audience will like it. Because when such thoughts appear, the authors stop taking risks and start shooting shit. And 100,500 seasons of TV shows appear not because it's all 100,500 fucking seasons, but because the first ones were cool, people got attached to the characters and are ready to spit and yell for a while, but watch it anyway. And pay the loot, for which they stamp out all sorts of shit in such quantities. No one shoots 100,500 seasons with the thought "oh, they like it so much, let's shoot another season, otherwise they'll be upset that the series is over." And the last 2 seasons of Umbrella are proof of that.
And what the fans want in all this, no one cares at all.
If not, then by what criterion do you judge the project's "goodness", if not according to the audience's opinion?
Do you understand how a movie is made? What you have described is the case of an enthusiast, an aspiring writer with a script in his hands, who hits the doorsteps of studios and shoots for pennies, like some Kevin Smith in his younger years. Do you think there are no examples when a studio buys the rights to books/ comics/remakes /reboots/biopics and already allocates a budget for this case and hires a group of screenwriters and directors?
In your opinion, Umbrella is not such a case? Gerard Way, the author of the comic, did not direct any series and did not write a script for any of them. Is this an author's project in your opinion, which was made for the soul, and not for the audience? He may have written the comic for the soul, but the series is pure commerce, which was created for Netflix subscription owners.
What is there to argue about, I really don't understand. To think that a movie is being shot for the audience is, it turns out, to have an ego. Holy shit. Well, apparently, for the glory of Satan, a movie is being shot and only for him, and here we are just mimic-coders, casually looking in with one eye
Secondly, what is "cinema for the sake of art" and what do we include in this category? The concept is too broad. Are any Lanthimos or Trier being filmed for the sake of art, or are you lumping them together with Michael Bay? Well, their films also find their audience, just not the mass audience, and you can see their paintings in my list, too.
Thirdly, which take are you responding to? That's what I'm saying, that cinema is a commodity and a product. Even an author's movie is made in order to earn money or convey an idea — that is, it is simply impossible to make a movie not for the viewer who will watch it. What was not done for the audience and not for money lies somewhere on a shelf in Weinstein's personal collection, and we, mere mortals, will never see it.
It's a pity that a good series was leaked in such a way.
It was really interesting to watch the events. Therefore, the end, a bunch of plot holes and an unnecessary romantic line between the Fifth and Laila just break your heart.
If Allison's daughter and Lila and Diego's children, who simply shouldn't exist, fit into the only correct timeline, then why couldn't the main characters fit in there after they released their particles into "purification" and lost their strength ... In the promo for the season they promised that the end would be bittersweet, but somehow sweet I In short, I didn't really feel it.
And help me understand, if Klaus is immortal, why didn't he come to life for so many years during the first apocalypse, in which the Fifth was stuck?
And to the question "why stick around again?" the most banal answer is because Klaus is a drug addict. And if we go deeper, we were not shown whether the ghosts released him + all the psychological traumas were clearly not worked out. And it would be better if he spent a year without Marigold on therapy than wrapping a room with a film with pimples
Forces that are, that are not
It is not disclosed as much as possible, although it can probably be said about many people🧐
I saw the photo, he looks so exhausted. I hope he's okay (
Did Reggie and Abigail kill two people and put on their skin, or did they create it for themselves?
Why didn't Ben remember the cause of his death and tell Klaus all these years? Reginald couldn't erase his memory, only Klaus's. Therefore, after Reggie's death, he should have told me right away.
Ray's actor refused to work on the final season, or why wasn't he there and the character just walked away from Allison?
Sloane. The same question. I assumed Sloane's life was for Luther's, but Ray was resurrected...
The reactions of Klaus, Luther and Allison to the novel of the Fifth and Lila are something!
Lila's new power was never explained. Until the last moment, I thought that they would resolve the situation with the help of friendship magic or other stuff, and show that Gracie has a power - lasers. It didn't happen. Did you do it to do it?
Many moments could have been more epic. When the family arrived by car to the protesters, I thought that Allison would force them to disperse. It's not for nothing that her strength was pumped, but no.
I hoped to the last to the scene after the credits, where they would be shown that they are people and do not remember anything at least, but there are just Marigold flowers of the same name...
Again, I hoped to the last that they would join hands and their forces would merge and fix the chronology and rewrite reality. It's not for nothing that they have the strongest forces: reality, soul, space and time, energy.
But I am glad that they still successfully saved the world without the endless ends of the world...
I will miss the series and this strange family, despite their sometimes stupid or even infuriating actions.
It's sad that they didn't show the true faces of Abigail and Reginald.
Well, in short, they searched for the right branch for 6 years, found it, drove it to their reality in 2030 and moved back to 2024 — something like that.
(well, or not at 30, whatever. The bottom line is that they have aged 6 years)
We were not shown what the soap apocalypse with the Ben Jennifer monster looked like, but the Fifth and Laila had to run out into it to return home. We were only shown the transfer of the diary with the coordinates, and the next scene — they are already on the threshold of Diego's house. I do not dispute that everything is confused here. Explain then how they came back if the subway only moves between universes, but not in time. Or does the subway always move to August 8, 2024, no matter what year you boarded it? I don't remember it being labeled. If only by the appearance and age of the alternate Fifth in the post-fight. Then yes, it turns out which branch you don't sit on, you'll get to August 8th. Well, it doesn't change the essence. It turns out that they shied away for 6 years on the alternative 8th of August 2024
Ben did not remember his death, as his father shot him from behind, and he did not know who shot him. And the brothers and sisters were inspired by Reginald that Ben just died on a mission. It was elementary for them that there were no questions. That's why Klaus and Ben didn't discuss it.. The moment is reminiscent of the plot from Men in Black 4, when Chris Hemsworth's character does not remember how they defeated the Swarm.
But it's sad not even that they didn't show Abigail and Reginald's faces, but didn't reveal them.. Why are they on earth? What is the purpose of coming to our planet?
And in general, there are a lot of unanswered questions. Who built the alternative Oblivion Hotel, who built the universe restart machine, who built the subway)
E and R are on Earth because their planet has perished. But only R was supposed to fly to it, since E died on her planet. As A explained, he simply should not have released Marigold in order to get his wife back in the end, but just spend the rest of his life here, then no branches of time branches would have appeared.
The hotel built a R around the portal in the relaunch, explained at the end of season 3. The restart of the universes itself has been there for centuries, apparently no one knew where it came from.
I'm just guessing about the subway, but there are so many of them that I won't even bring up this topic)
They returned at the same time, I guess, just judging by the costume of the Fifth, they also stopped to change and then drove to Lila's house. Here's just a couple of hours :D
But I'm most sorry that they didn't perform their traditional family dance.
But for Tiffany – I Think We're Alone Now, thanks a lot to them, back to the beginning
Ps. If the waiter has gained strength, maybe his strength is the lasers from his eyes. And strengthening Laila's power allows her to copy forces at a greater distance, such as in one big city or in one country.
To be honest, the season is average, compared to the previous three it has sunk significantly. In my opinion, season 1 was the most delicious, and this one was the least liked.
And yet, it's a pity to say goodbye to the already beloved scumbag heroes. They left beautifully, but with a sadness…
The season is cool. So much has been made up and the backstory has been shown, and confused a little bit.
But, in principle, it was clear that if it weren't for them, then everything would go on and on as it should.
It is very difficult to wait 2 years for a new season, I set the task for autumn - to watch all the seasons at once.
Goodbye, umbrella. I'm going to miss you.
PS - even somehow lousy Luther was looking for the love of his life, while his brother could jump on parallels, and in general (
Minus for the fact that there was not a single MyChem soundtrack, well, kamon, they put it in the trailer, they could have ended the series with some Last Famous Words, most of the viewers of the series came only because of Gerard, kamon.
In general, the series turned out to be 50/50, of course I won't review it, but for a couple of cool moments throughout the action, like.
Goodbye, Hargreaves ❤
And the sensations are very crumpled. We watched-watched four seasons, but none of this happened :D
And what kind of baushka was with him? It's a pity Cha-chu wasn't shown
ehhh I loved this series very much and did not feel anything from the whole season except for a couple of moments that were fatly blocked by the kring line of the Fifth and Lila, because it would be possible to do everything not so straight and vanilla, it was so mediocre and cheap, it's just terrible that this finale can be put on one shelf next to season 8 of game of thrones
It's infuriating that they've all lived such a busy life, and in the end, bam, they just didn't exist🥺 I understand they couldn't have been born at all, in principle... But damn, it turns out that everything is useless, even if they are flowers now... and yes, it's strange that their children (who came from non-existent parents) stayed alive🤔
I liked that at the end they said yesterday's date of this year, how the creators prepared, they knew exactly when the series would be released 🔥
I love these guys endlessly and the series is still one of my favorites. 💙
From the very first episode, I assumed that this could happen, but not in all seriousness
And in the end, I didn't understand why it was necessary to bring them together. Lila did a terrible thing, it's just a pity for the fifth and Diego.
And the ending really upset me. I wanted a happy ending 😭😭😭
Out of all 145 thousand attempts to stop the end of the world, only one Fifth persuaded his family to sacrifice themselves? It's certainly not the 14 million visions of Strange, but it's still weird.
In general, thanks for the finale, thanks for the soundtrack (it was really good here). Well, as Klaus said, the main wisdom of the season:
— I love you guys, but you are all assholes.
Such "denouements " completely devalue the entire plot that was before. Just forget it, none of this was supposed to happen.
Unfortunately, I personally never want to review the series with such finales - so they achieved their goal, Umbrella Academy is waiting for oblivion: (
The season is very chaotic, in some places it is stretched so that you can fall asleep, and in some places you should leave the room for half a minute - and you no longer understand what happened.
And we could give them a last dance before the last end of the world, no?
It's sad and insulting, I think I'll review the 1st season somehow, the candy is the same
Diego's awareness of his love for his family in the CIA, along with the birth of love between Laila and the Fifth – is it serious????
Ben in general ... What was that? It would be better if I didn't know about the continuation of the series, but stopped at the third, or better yet, the second season
Finished as finished. But I would have left at least one so that he could save everyone later and fix everything.
Bunny Claus is forever in my heart ♥
The fifth one has been brilliant as an actor since the first season. Bunny Five, as a hero, deserved at least a little happiness with Leila. ♥️♥️♥️
Понятно, что на много-много вопросов не ответили, и 3 и 4 сезон слабоват и сюжетно, и локациями, и насыщенности нет.
2 сезон самый любимый!)
Так же настаиваю, что Пятый заслуживает счастья в свои 70 лет хоть немного.
Ну, а актерской игрой Пятого (особенно в первые два сезона) - можно бесконечно восхищаться. Клаус и Пятый - очень яркие персонажи, навсегда в моем сердце)
Six episodes are the very thing, they finished very well, everything is logical and dramatic.
Good bye, Umbrella Academy 👉👈
Gerard and Gabriel, as producers, make you think that this is the canonical canon for possible comic book sequels one day, and it breaks your heart no less.
I don't know, you need to get used to it, get used to it.
Thanks guys Hargreaves. I love you very much and I will miss you. A great series, great actors, my heart is yours forever.
I didn't understand why children exist if parents were erased from the timeline, what are such wonderful properties of the subway? 🤷🏻♀️
And where the fuck is Delhi Sloane going? Remember, Luther had a wife :/
Do you remember in the finale of the third season there was a scene after the credits where Ben was riding the subway? Why throw in some kind of hook if you're not going to use it later?
And what exactly was it between the Fifth and Lila? Why and why? Meh.
In general, I sympathize with people who have been waiting for the continuation of their favorite series for two years, and in the end they got it.
Until recently, I believed that Laila and the Fifth were an awesome bromance, not an awkward and random love line. how ridiculous their "love" scenes looked is just a separate topic, zero chemistry, especially against the background of Laila+Diego. who needed it at all...
It's a shame that in the end, the characters we know from several short scenes from the same season survived, and the characters who fought so much and sacrificed everything for peace did not deserve their happily ever after
There were enough cool scenes and characters, too, and many people had great acting. After all, we didn't completely fail the season, and finally, at least it was over.
the creators of the series acted foolishly, of course, that they left such significant moments for the audience to think out for themselves. then we can come up with a normal ending ourselves)
then the only thing that confuses me then is why there was even a stutter about these 43 children. some kind of misunderstanding or changed their mind halfway through, like "these are magical and cool, and finally forget about the rest, I don't care how they lived." although at least in the original timeline, they all had superpowers, but some became celebrities, and others had zero mentions. Like no one shot without Reginald? I don't believe it))
However, the FBI could have taken someone for experiments quite well.
But this is probably where all my "thanks" this season ends ...
And how beautifully it all began
Goodbye, Umbrellas💔
The series had such potential, as it could be tested... Ahem, ahem... Lose it?(
I think that I will return to the cool moments of season 1-2 more than once, but I want to forget the 3-4 seasons. Not even that, they will forget themselves, since the last two seasons are about nothing at all.
Eh.
A lot remains a mystery, but fuck it, after the disastrous third season, this one is a super-masterpiece.
I was really looking forward to the final season and hoped for a cool conclusion - although last season turned out to be weak, there were hopes that they would improve in the 4th. I remember how excited I was about the first season and I liked the second one too, and it really hurts what they did with the series. Uh, sad.
The antagonists of the season, although they are not really antagonists, are terribly disappointing. Hazel and Cha-Chi, by comparison, also didn't have a specific background, and they were a great example of how you can write strong, interesting, charismatic characters without revealing the backstory. Jean and Jen have nothing but a goofy image, although they seemed to have potential at first, especially considering WHAT a stunned and numerous army of followers they have gathered.
There's some kind of hat with abilities this season. Lasers from the eyes have already been mentioned many times, while in the last two episodes they remembered that Laila could also copy other people's abilities, which means that the old skills still somehow survived, while Allison never uttered the trademark "rumor has it" - even at the time of by twisting eggs, when it was most appropriate, they replaced it with some kind of psionics, akin to Victor. And in general, somehow a lot of unnecessary fervent brutal violence arrived.
Why did Luther acquire the body of a gorilla after all - I did not understand, because it was not the influence of Marigold, but the result of a surgical operation? Correct me if I'm wrong.
At first, Klaus's interesting line about finding the fear of death and about the subsequent acceptance of his mortality did not grow into anything other than comic relief. But, probably, I really want to, it's a difficult topic.
Victor's unprocessed long-term traumatic grudge against his father ran through the entire season, developed in one three-minute dialogue with an alternate version of Reginald. As if they remembered about this line, caught themselves - and shoved it in for show.
A representation of friendship (even sworn friendship) between a man and a woman: well, yes, well, fuck me. Ugh.
The good news is a very touching relationship between Claire and Klaus, built against the background of how Allison, ostracized after last season, seized on the most unstable and dysfunctional of the brothers. As it seemed to me - for my own comfort. But the real warmth was felt between him and her daughter.
And, in short, against the background of all this disappointment, the ending with self-annihilation is so crystal clear. I don't even feel sorry for anyone, it feels like I didn't have to say goodbye to my favorite characters.
I will miss Umbrella-the one that I loved before, that I waited for for two years and returned to in difficult moments, like home. A long and sad farewell did not work out, it happened somewhere in the middle of the season unnoticeably.
Thanks for everything, and goodbye.
Allison also took advantage of her ability to start a rumor once this season - when a bunch of Keepers went to her and her brothers in a small town, she forced one of them to shoot all the others and then shoot himself. however, she did not say anything, but inspired him with the need for this action somehow remotely. but at least so 🥲
The open ending of season 3 was more interesting.
Reg, selfishly wanting to save his wife, creates a multiverse that eventually made everyone unhappy.
RIP Umbrella Academy 🥀
It's very sad, I would like a naive and banal happy ending, of course. But the creators of the campaign really did not want to solve all these interpersonal problems and love triangles that they had screwed up.
Sadness.
It's a pity that Ben had half a season on his own, that Diego and Luthor didn't have a special role either, but overall it was still very interesting. I'll probably reconsider it sometime.
Eight marigolds in the post-credits milot scene, of course. Let's at least meet like this.
I remember how much I loved Klaus × Diego and Klaus × Ben bromances. It was fun to watch in season 1, it got me hooked. What they did next with Klaus is such a disappointment. They did Diego dirty. I can't remember what I ever liked about Ben.
Five and Lila is just 🤢 Idk why it's so disgusting to me, but it is. Made me so uncomfortable.
It finally ended. Bye.
So here the authors also have a problem that they rarely know whether their series will be extended or not, and from this you need to try to tell a more or less complete story, with a hint of continuation. In this case, the continuation turned out to be so-so also due to the fact that some of the previous lines were simply abandoned and forgotten.
But if the author has no idea or has a bad idea of how the story should end, something like this will turn out. Often, the story grows, absorbs the author, he gets confused and cannot steer properly to the finale. Therefore, imho, Martin PLIO will not finish in any way.
Well, I do not know if you have ever written, but often in the process you realize that as planned, it will not work anymore. Rowling Vaughn was going to kill Harry Potter, for example.
The feeling that someone was told the main idea of the series, he did not really understand and went to shoot on a limited budget. Okay?
All the screenwriters in the world seem to be obsessed with timelines at one time, although this breaks the narratives and does not add points to the series / films, only adds extra semantic load... Against the background of such a confusing and short finale, I decided to review the masterpiece of the first season completely in order to get the thrill I was waiting for from the new season, but alas, I did not get it.
Does Five have a name? And is it Max like the name of the deli we see at the end of the season?
Blackman: No. Five’s name is Five. What we came up with was that — and I think this also has to do with Gerard Way telling me this — as the kids grew up, they got to pick their names and Grace (the Brellies’ adoptive robot mother, played by Jordan Claire Robbins) helped pick their names. Five could never pick one. He just was that kind of stubborn kid who didn’t know what his name was yet. And when he was 11, he disappeared and got lost in the future. So he never got back to be able to have a name. So he just kept Five. So Five’s name is only Five. There is no other name for Five.
Gerard Way: He was basically like, “Fuck you!” That’s the way it was in the comic, even though you haven’t seen it yet.
Initially, in principle, I only liked two characters - Klaus and the Fifth. Klaus was prescribed at least some variety. but the Fifth, for all its dynamism, seemed like some kind of nonsense all season.
It turned out a little short. Something was missing. there would be more episodes, maybe we would get more adventures of Diego and Luther, it would be fun.
Paige still doesn't know how to play, and the long scene where Victor yells at Reggie only worsened this impression ((
for the first time in my life, I had a desire to read fix-it features, because somehow it's all wrong. or you will have to imagine that this season did not happen %)) Although there are such great ideas on tumblr how to fix all this, maybe I'll pull myself together and draw a fix it comic.
Well now, it's definitely Umbrella, lol
There are a lot of unexplained elements, unclosed branches and filler plots in this short season.
Initially, the story was built around Vanya (Victor), and ended with the central protagonist in the person of the fifth.
The best episode is the second. That's all that can be highlighted this season. The last episode started off great with Muse, but all that followed was shame and shame for the fans.
I'm going to miss this family. Bye
Moreover, in which nothing is clear
The fifth one who died an old man ? Yes, it's just that another fifth decided to found. From another timeline
Motivation? Well, I just didn't want to come alive, but my husband revived me, so let's fuck the whole world.
Why start this at all if you could just cure the bottle (which Abigail apparently threw) on Jennifer and that's it?
Do we need people to die? By the way, was there anything left in it? Or did they get at Klaus after all?
It feels like another series with the same characters.
And by the way, what about relatives? Are these really Lila's parents who are alive in this timeline? She just found them and came to the door and said I'm your daughter, here's my husband, are we expecting a baby?
It seems that there is little time and it could have been spent on explanations, and not on the sad eyes of the fifth. A completely meaningless line with Lila.
Sad sad, very upset to be honest(
I didn't understand at all. We didn't finish anything and it was very sad and insulting (I liked this series because yes it is "funny" And here it was reduced to some bad pink snot everywhere that is out of place
and I still don't understand where Lila's family came from in the new timeline
what are the different questions for and from where)
there are cool moments, there are no conceptual complaints about the finale (not all cats have happy endings), the season looked cheerful (especially when I had already forgotten about all the old guns, like me), but uneven, there are also blunt turns (the line of the Fifth and Laila looked beautiful and tremulous at the moment, but only in isolation from the rest of the series; as someone has already mentioned, it really looks like an homage to peaches and plums, motherfucker, but rather awkward, especially considering the 15-year age difference between the actors and the fact that the Fifth, even if he is in the world without magic " (tm) I began to grow up, physically at most 19; they showed these pictures of the actors at the end, I forgot what a tiny bead Aidan was in the first season). in general, well, this. but at least the gestalt is closed, and we've seen worse endings.
Screenwriters like to leave a bitter aftertaste
So everything started well once, and now they've ended up with this?
Yes, everything was bad for the series last season, but I hoped that by the end they would do something really powerful and finish everything with dignity. But this season looked like it was filmed and edited by a man with schizophrenia.
of course, it is impossible to ignore the number of plot black holes, but I am really glad that this whole thing, which began in the third season, has come to an end. All love and good TV shows😽
Sijiai flowers were finished off with the last frame)) a strike is a strike, but it would be better to postpone the end of the season than to end like this
Here we have a complete picture, all the arches are closed and that's good. Yes, it's a pity for your favorite characters that you had to say goodbye to them, but it's better than just dropping it later on some 6-7-8 season.
Reginald and Abigail remained so unclear to me. What kind of aliens are these? What is their mission of staying on our planet? 🤔
If even in the third season the motivation of the Pope was clear, he faked his own death to start a series of events and bring back his dead wife, but still their purpose of staying on earth remains unclear.
Why Abigail died in the first place. Why did she create Marigold and Durango in the first place 🤔
Who built an alternative version of the hotel called Oblivion. What kind of unkillable samurai appeared in it on a call at the reception 🤔
And most importantly, who is the creator of the universe restart console?
Who created the subway? It reminded me a little of the Dark Matter series, but there was a man-made cube moving through the multiverse.. Who is the architect of the metro here ?
"Why she created Marigold in the first place" I don't think there was a special reason, just scientific interest. People systematically discover new elements of the periodic table, simply because they can. " Who built it... Oblivion" Reg, no?
As for the construction, it seems like yes, Reginald found a wormhole in a field, and built a hotel on this site.. This is where the moment is not clear, the same builders were building an alternative hotel... Or this hotel was built in parallel to the main one)))
But there's more of a question about the remote control of the universe)
Well, Reg on the one hand, alternative Reg on the other)) Well, the remote is really xs)
the scene after the credits is sad too.
even in the last episode, the couple of Laila and the fifth did not feel so bad anymore
The CGI level...a series from the 90s + cut scenes from games. It was neither realistic as in previous seasons nor atmospheric (as in Strange Cases, for example)
It's a very strange shoot. Camera angles, color correction, scales. Sometimes it felt like I was watching such a cheap sitcom from a small American town
The scenery was also pumped up. And the soundtracks are either the wrong ones or in the wrong place. It was especially noticeable in the battle scene with the monster. And it would be cool if they danced at the end, as in previous seasons, and not just stood while they were swallowed up by the muck.
The script and dialogues with holes.
You literally had a successful product ready in your hands, with a good idea, actors and design. Well, how could this be done?? What went wrong??
How suits suit the guy... He didn't need a relationship line at all._.
There is nothing more to say, we started for health, finished for peace.
This is not the end I expected.
My beloved crazy family, I will miss you very much, I wanted so much for them all 💔💔💔
The series flew by very quickly
The development of many lines was not enough
But, in any case, thanks to the authors for so many interesting characters
And tell me how the story ends in the comic, who read it?!
love lines also turned out to be dead ends.
It probably should have been left for season 3.
Shit
The last season as farewell came out well. But the series itself is a bit strange, yes) At least it was brought to some kind of logical conclusion, many Netflix series of those years died after 1-2 seasons.
P.S. Before watching this season, I watched the series Black Matter, where the plot was based on the multiverse, it's funny)
The whole season, only the actors pulled on themselves, but they could not save this, the plot was hopeless.
And it's even sadder that they didn't give us their dance.
If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution.
I'm going to review the first seasons and listen from there to Tiffany - I Think We're Alone Now, The Phantom of the Opera performed by Lindsey Stirling, Istanbul performed by They Might Be Giants, Kiss – I Was Made for Lovin’ You and a dozen others… Wow, how much good music they've piled up!
Hello! Good bye!
Well, being a selfish person, I would just jump from branch to branch with the whole family and live my best life. There are an infinite number of branches, you can get out anywhere and move at any time, their powers allow it. Why not then?
What was perhaps possible here was to show the connections within the family. Everyone eventually found their own truth. Seeing his father's approval, Klaus realized that he was not alone. The first one had a match with a knife thrower. Poor guy five suddenly found love in Laila. Laila has reconciled with her husband. Ben, who sacrificed himself. A strange, dysfunctional family that is trying to find a foothold and who find it in the same broken relatives. Technically, the plot moves and the work of the universe did not work out very well, but emotionally, yes.
I still expected in the end that they had survived. Without Marigold, without memories, but still survived. On the other hand, a natural end for a family whose end of the world is an ordinary environment and who find it so difficult to find a place in life (which is still not very convenient for them)
There is a little scene after the credits🌝
terrible + cringe + holes + ultra cringe of an unnecessary novel + loss of all the character developments that were before
Thanks for it again. I wish I'd listened.
what was it all about and was it necessary at all? it was worth stopping at the 3rd.
I even felt a little sorry for Diego, Lila and the Fifth. We couldn't even really talk about this situation. I understand the feelings of each of them, so I see no point in blaming anyone.
It's necessary, as they believe a brother.
He alone thought, said and all collapsed))
In the end, it seemed that I was watching another episode of Dark Matter, especially where there were many Fifths, well, I couldn't help but remember the ending of Dark
It seems to have done well for everyone, but it's so sad 🥲 light sadness
All this breaks the season completely. I got into the ending anyway, because I really love these characters, any ending would have made me cry. And even a piano with erasing itself from reality (it's not so bad) it could have turned out if the writers had built it correctly in the plot, throughout all 6 episodes. The impotence of the screenwriters killed
and Sloane, who in fact turned out to be the love of Luther's life, mentioned Luther once 🤡
The moment when Laila takes a step out the door - just bravo to both the actress, and the directors, and the camera work - honestly, it took my breath away, how cool they conveyed this feeling of necessity and a little death literally in one second.
The photo of the shooting process and the scene after the credits left a pleasant aftertaste.
P.S. I don't even have the desire to describe why, to discuss something. Therefore, only 2 words
Maybe I missed it, but why was the girl found in the squid in the first place? Did the screenwriters just want to? And why wouldn't she and Ben turn into a huge squid instead of this miserable something...
For some reason, it also raised a lot of questions that everything was happening around Christmas time. Was the series originally supposed to be released at the end of December?
Why would you do that?
We could just jump into the past and kill the blonde who came up with the magic concoction.
They would show why their mother died.
Close the loop.
Well, I'm hz, just tentacles with monsters? I didn't wait a year for this))))
I want a separate series about the fifth!!!!
And how and when did the seven find out about Marigold?
And how and when did the seven find out about Marigold?
Well ok.
Everyone is always unhappy
The logical conclusion
The only thing I liked was the very beautiful and atmospheric shots of winter American nature and a small town. Well, the soundtracks are at their best as usual. One umbrella out of five this season.
As if a bunch of events from there didn't affect anything
thanks for the fifth and his smile 🥰
It would be better if they stayed in the subway 🥺💔
Yes, there are enough questions left, but the story itself, the actors, the atmosphere have done their job and I don't even want to dig into the flaws.
It's not strange, but I've been waiting for the spike of the Fifth and Laila since season 2. Yes, they look cool with Diego, but these sparks of the Fifth and Laila... Aiden Gallagher played an adult so smartly that even at 17 he was perceived as Laila's equal in age. Speaking of Gallagher. I consider him a new rising star for five years now, it's a pity that he doesn't act much, he's a talented guy and very handsome. Yes, there were a lot of shipp dramas, but it's been so long since I've watched anything romantic that I've been into it. And even all these cliches.
Victor's line is great this season. Their connection with Ben, papallelle with the second season, which made me cry for half the series, his confidence and, finally, proof to my father that his strength is worthy of being part of the team.
The rest were somehow not affected by the development. Allison is still the savior of all, Klaus is still weak in spirit, Luther is stupid and strong, and Diego is a fanatic. It is sad that it so happened that in fact none of them achieved anything new, if not degraded. Well, okay, Diego seems like a normal father.
Overall, the ending is very sad. I hoped that they would be born, but without Marigold, but alas. I cried for half an episode because it was very sad. And Ben's connection with Vanya, and the fact that as a result they all died, or rather were never born. But this is probably the logical ending for the whole story.
It was nice to see the cameos of the heroes of previous seasons)) I will definitely review the entire series later.
The fifth is the most interesting character for me. There are 100 times more dramas in his history than the whole family. And that's why this cute novel by the Fifth and Laila in the form of an mb fanservice really came to me. Because otherwise, the plot has been sucked out of my finger for a long time. As well as the motives of the heroes' actions.
P.S. I don't understand why his character was rewritten to please Page. The hero did not have the same path as the actor. It looks so-so. Well, in principle, the entire character's arch was merged to the end.
In principle, I am happy with the ending. There are no very stupid super heroes - no problem. We were shown that there will be no super happy end if they are left without strength. And it's hard to believe that everything could be very good for everyone.
p.p.s. of course, if you find fault, then I don't understand why I self-released these versions, destroyed all the other branches and erased them from history, in principle. I thought they would go at the moment when their mothers got pregnant, prevent the spread of Mary gold, and then time itself would erase all other branches and themselves. And here it is already possible to show how they were born ordinary people and lived some kind of their lives separately or something brought them together
Despite the fact that the ending is generally logical, the question remains: what was the point of it then? Why shoot as many as 4 seasons, so that in the end you can say " everything should have ended on the first"? It is this "incomprehensibility" personally, in my opinion, adds a huge disadvantage. Such an interesting storyline, wonderful actors, well-written characters, all this... it turns out it was in vain. And what the authors hoped for when they simply zeroed out their own work. I would have understood more if the characters had stayed alive. By the way, the third season ends much better, everyone went their own way, the super powers disappeared from the world, there were no those who created the end of the world, therefore the world did not need to be saved. But... We have what we have.
Despite the merged ending, the series deserves attention anyway, it was interesting to watch the characters. But I'm definitely not going to review it, because what's the point? All this should not have happened..)
Well, it's a pity a little.
I mean, yes, by the end of the second season, it became clear that the way they save the universe, it would be better not to save it. But still, the option of "let's stand and wait for the monster to devour us" is somehow, well...
why couldn't Victor, who was trying to pull durango out of Ben, pull Marigold out of them all into a jar and just give it to Ben? Why couldn't he take Marigold for himself and heroically devour the monster, canceling all those apocalypses that he caused himself, like a White Violin? It would make a good character arch from "I'll kill you all" to "I'll save you all."
Why did the children of the characters survive? Why was the awkward arc of the Fifth novel with Lila necessary? Why was Lila's drama with Diego if it wasn't really resolved, except for "well, we're all going to die, let's make up"? Why was there a big part of this season at all? Why were they all so ugly? What did Hagreaves' wife want anyway? Why couldn't Marigold have been shoved into someone else/someone else and pushed against Jennifer?
There are more questions than answers.
The second episode was good and in the spirit of previous seasons. The rest... Why?
"Personal dramas" look strained and artificial in most cases, like Victor's showdown with the folder, Klaus's with his sister, and the rest.
Okay, it's just a series. Someday I won't exist either.
Aidan Gallagher grew up with an unreal crash, even with this hairstyle
Now I'm going to read the comments.
They have become ordinary, they live on.
But the screenwriters were abruptly forced to kill them....
And the method chosen is disgusting ((((
7 years in the subway, within 5 minutes of screen time - why do you need it at all?!
And the couple Leila and the Fifth, like Rachel and Joey in Friends, are not at all ale.
Thank you for your opinion.
That's where I think the presentations are over - everything else is done well and how the final finale fits. My verdict is 8 pet monkeys out of 10 (-1 for the strange and out of nowhere love story of Laila and the fifth, -1 for Vanya's weak game and for his weakness as a character. The original conflict between father and daughter became a conflict between father and son)