I have already watched the series in full, in general I liked the series, but in my opinion it is a little delayed. But the series is made better than Chikatilo, the atmosphere of that time is made interesting.
It's strange to comment on the series after you watched the entire series last week...🤔 I agree with the comment above, it's stretched, but it's more interesting to watch if it's not Chikatilo (who was stretched for two seasons🙈)
The middle of the series, the wife was given a quota - there is hope that Bokov will finally stop adjusting the facts to what he wants so that they will get behind him and engage in a normal investigation. If so, then, in theory, it should go more lively and interesting
Bokov is an antihero, but an antihero must also have some charisma, some zest or something else that will make him empathize, follow the evolution of his character. This is imho, of course, but the antihero failed, he is rude to everyone, behaves like cattle, everyone around him, apparently, owes him, he suffers, as if he is the only one on the planet. He throws himself like a dog at people, I didn't see any special genius skills in the professional sphere either, or just a good level — he is engaged in fitting facts, humiliates and intimidates everyone around, just to get home as soon as possible. He is not sorry at all after such piggishness, one wife is a man for him, her character is almost not revealed, it would be interesting to understand how, according to the screenwriters, one can fall in love with this type.
@Hahtor: I don't understand this idiocy at all with my wife, who is like the love of his life and so on blah blah, then he calls the heroine Bortich a woman, p ** doy and that she needs to cook borscht and in general the attitude towards everyone is openly bestial. it seems to me that he has some kind of painful fixation on his wife, like he "loves" her and has to bear this cross, like a debt. in general, he came up with it himself, he adheres to it. perhaps this is a type who thinks that you have to suffer in life, but for something or because of something, your wife has become this someone. or they just had a codependent relationship, while his wife was healthy, he behaved like cattle with her, she suffered, then fell ill, and he feels guilty, well, this whole topic with "bear the cross" appears, which I wrote above.
@necomilfo: I don't see any contradiction in loving a wife and at the same time not considering women as people (this is not such a rare combination of emotions and views)
@necomilfo: Well, his wife is at home, most likely, she cooks borscht, but she doesn't want to be a cop)) But to be fair, he also began to treat Natasha better during the series)
Just a disgusting frightening side In the first series, Yankovsky is very wooden, but now he just failed in this role and scares me very much with his character
I watched the series. as a result, they started for health, ended for peace. the first six episodes were stretched out godlessly and the ending turned out to be some kind of rapidly crumpled. but the atmosphere is five-plus. and at some point I caught myself empathizing more with the heroine Bortich, especially at the end, while the hero of Yankovsky becomes absolutely unbearable. Yatsenko is a wonderful actor, in my opinion, and perfectly balanced his game and his characters with the sometimes apathetic, indifferent Bortich and the psychotic trying to be a "bad boy" Yankovsky.
@Vikatoria_1995: did we watch exactly the same TV series?) Yes, he wasn't particularly emotional at the first interrogation, but it shows that he is tired as hell. On the second, the Sides fell off. And how his hands were shaking near the swamp - is that without emotion?
@id90254354: We mean spoilers for this particular series
What is the point of commenting serially then, if you can stumble upon people who do not respect other people's decisions (do not read the original story, etc.)
@id90254354: You can always comment on the trail here. episodes, even if they haven't been released on schedule yet. There are already 6 comments written on the last one.
@id90254354: because this particular episode and the events BEFORE this episode are discussed here. Comments on subsequent episodes that people haven't watched yet are disrespectful. The spoiler alert applies to this particular episode.
@id90254354: you can just mysteriously write - 'explanation ahead, watch the next episodes.' Obviously, the person asking the question hasn't watched these episodes yet, holy crap. 🤫
@id90254354: слушайте, а если вы посмотрели весь сериал и понятия не имеете, что к какой серии относится, на кой вы вообще комментируете каждую серию? И прекратите в самом деле свою истерику. Люди к вам всего лишь с просьбой обратились, а вы истерите эмоциально. Зачем?
Рассказываю еще раз: откройте сам сериал в приложении. Там есть перечень ВСЕХ серий. Нажимаем на последнюю (которая по плану через недели 2-3) и комментируем-обсуждаем. Вы наверное удивитесь, но там уже есть комментарии - люди находят и обсуждают весь сериал, это правда не сложно. 2 раза на экран нажать
@id90254354: зачем писать разработчикам сайта если тут все расставлено правильно? на КиноПоиске ещё не вышли все серии, как я поняла их слили. Серии будут высвечиваться с официальным показом, но так как этого ещё не произошло, они не высвечиваются у всех. Вам же не закрыли комментарии к последним сериям, пишите там, если не хотите стать жертвой злой истерички
@id90254354: >The reason for these tantrums is because of spoilers So you're the most hysterical here. You have the longest comments, and you respond to any harmless sneeze in your direction, as if you want to strangle your opponent like a black sheet from pioneer folklore.
@id90254354: kapets, Alesya, you are an iberichka of course, so nervous because of the comments, do not drink tea with mint, you need to take care of yourself
I liked the series. There are some shortcomings, but they did not interfere much. The last episodes were generally very interesting to watch. In general, it's creepy that such ghouls exist in the world.
Gentlemen who have watched the series to the end - thank you for keeping us updated on this issue, but please do so in the comments only for the latest episode
@id90254354: Out of respect for the people who are discussing a particular episode here. If you don't know what was in which episode, go to the end to discuss the whole series. All the best to you 🙂
@id90254354: in my opinion, it's better not to comment on anything here, because any personal opinion that goes against the opinion of the crowd immediately causes a lot of outrage and disadvantages in karma:)
I liked the series - in general, it was even very good, the iconic points in the Fisher case were noted, but Bortich - well, I don't know, as if it wasn't her role.
everyone is annoyed by Bokov, but how Igor's father pisses me off! the kid is *** walking through the forest, he is dragged for identification of varying degrees of meaningfulness, in addition, the dog ran away — everything is sideways, the man has an article. and most importantly, he's also trying to fill in some honesty stuff there
@deleau: there are not only questions for the father, but also for the mother. Not a word about her work, i.e. maybe she doesn't work, but where is she anyway? No one cares what he is, where he is, left home at night and no one would have noticed if the dog hadn't barked. The parents of the year are simple. A disgusting family, to be honest...
The first two episodes made us believe in the best, but with the third, everything went to hell. And the characters were merged and the plot could not be developed.
After "Chikatilo", in which Nagiyev turned out to be completely out of place, which ruined the series, "Fisher" became a breath of clean air. I watched all the episodes at once and it was just a masterpiece. The tension in the series gets stronger and stronger with each episode and literally knocks you down in the finale. Solid 5 points and 5.
It's almost the end of the series, and none of the actors are particularly catchy. I'm not even interested in who this Fisher is. The young investigator is as nasty as possible, by episode 5 he should have changed at least a little for the better, but no. Well, homophobia in this series is at its maximum. The Russian audience is probably delighted.
@imisteria: Both homophobia and sexism cut our advanced tolerant ears, but please consider the context. After all, this is the USSR with its homosexuality and homosexuals. Thank you also that the kind uncle policeman did not put me in jail for this. Yes, it's terrible and unfair, it breaks my heart, but it was like that.
Someone definitely needs to make a montage video with all the swearing from the series. I do not recall such a large amount of obscene vocabulary in Russian movies or TV series.
This was not a social problem in the 80s and 90s, in the broad sense of the word that we put into it these days. And the series is a little bit about something else.
you come in to read the comments on episode 5. and you see the messages "I watched the series, etc." alo, what did you forget here? write under the last episode. let other people see for themselves and draw conclusions
I can't explain how much I explained in the comments. You can throw me in the trash! Bitch, well, you don't like the acting, you see mistakes in everything, mats and cigarettes are annoying - go watch Turkish TV series about love! In fact, I no longer pay attention to Bokov's dialect, nor to a large number of cigarettes, and I simply burn out from some obscene expressions, because they are present in my life. Personally, I'm interested, but for this series, they actually overclocked. Here, for the first time, I shed tears from the conversation between Valera and Zhenya, when the second one was sitting on the floor, smoking and letting out a stingy male tear; and then, when Bokov knelt down, asking for a quota, I finally got cold feet. The moment came when Natasha said about the earring in the ear of the new victim and Valera ran.... She cursed while he was looking for change in his pockets to call his wife.
And I will support the commentator above once again: many people come here to read people's opinions about the series. ABOUT THE SERIES, NOT THE WHOLE SERIES! I like it when people make guesses and I reason by reading their guesses (because I'm such a detective).
Is it really only me who burns up from the way they stupidly wishful thinking! It's the investigators, then it's not easy to get up Arguments and evidence are purely from the category of "yes, I'm telling you that's for sure he has a suitable mug," etc Each time they stupidly take the one on whom everything conveniently came together and press until they come to some goal, i.e. either recognition or self-release Power💪 The screenwriters and other people clearly did not stint and threw everything they could and a harsh and callous hero with a hard fate in the form of a dying wife + discrimination based on gender and race +LGBT + unwanted children still a bunch of everything and the cherry on the cake serial Also some raspberries with cigarettes
@_Sakura__: даже интересно, как по вашему мнению работают сейчас и работали тогда настоящие следователи? Как по мне, максимально реалистично показана работа следствия под давлением сроков и начальства
I was thinking here, once again seeing a naked maniacello in the forest. How can we cut through our forest? He stands quietly, so white, clean. Damn, he would have been devoured by mosquitoes, midges and ticks, his legs and arms would have been scratched.
@Koralain: His forces of evil keep the midges away))) But seriously, probably a maniac is so focused on his maniac that he doesn't care about mosquitoes.
Well, it's interesting that it's spinning, damn it! Bortich played out, well done)
But I would personally kill Maman Bokova. And most of all for hypocrisy. If she had said bluntly, "I hoped she was dead and I wouldn't have to bother with her anymore," she would have aroused less contempt than with this "I thought I was tired, Marinochka-swallow." Ugh, such people make you want to puke, they exude such cloying poison.
Классный сериал, правда, смотрела этот сюжет у Каневского. Вообще не понимаю нареканий на работу следователей и прокураторы — на самом деле очень правдоподобная и приближенная к реальности картина. С матерных фраз смеюсь (для трепетных ланей можно выбрать звуковую дорожку с цензурой, если что). Нравится бортич, она тут саму себя играет, вообще классно вписалась. Янковский хорошо в роль потерянного и отбитого вписался. Не помню как актера, исполняющего роль третьего члена команды зовут, но он тоже молодец.
Понятно, что он - журналист, но такое потребительское и похуистическое отношение к собственному ребёнку (таким не надо потомство заводить; маман у него тоже не особо там заботливая) - наверное, если бы Фишер грохнул Игоря тот бы сенсацию из этого сделал(
В этой серии радостно, что жене Бокова дали квоту. А то, как он ее просил у своего главного тронуло. Ну а когда труп нашли, Наташа про серьгу сказала, я сразу про сына Валеры подумала, что это он там.. переживала всё то время, пока он домой жене звонил. Вообще сериал достаточно интересный, моментами держит в напряжении.
- Work or I'm fucked!
I agree with the comment above, it's stretched, but it's more interesting to watch if it's not Chikatilo (who was stretched for two seasons🙈)
But to be fair, he also began to treat Natasha better during the series)
In the first series, Yankovsky is very wooden, but now he just failed in this role and scares me very much with his character
the first six episodes were stretched out godlessly and the ending turned out to be some kind of rapidly crumpled. but the atmosphere is five-plus. and at some point I caught myself empathizing more with the heroine Bortich, especially at the end, while the hero of Yankovsky becomes absolutely unbearable.
Yatsenko is a wonderful actor, in my opinion, and perfectly balanced his game and his characters with the sometimes apathetic, indifferent Bortich and the psychotic trying to be a "bad boy" Yankovsky.
What is the point of commenting serially then, if you can stumble upon people who do not respect other people's decisions (do not read the original story, etc.)
Рассказываю еще раз: откройте сам сериал в приложении. Там есть перечень ВСЕХ серий. Нажимаем на последнюю (которая по плану через недели 2-3) и комментируем-обсуждаем. Вы наверное удивитесь, но там уже есть комментарии - люди находят и обсуждают весь сериал, это правда не сложно. 2 раза на экран нажать
So you're the most hysterical here. You have the longest comments, and you respond to any harmless sneeze in your direction, as if you want to strangle your opponent like a black sheet from pioneer folklore.
Plus, the spoilers above relate not only to the personality of the hero, but also to the relationship between the characters
- At first, I would give you so that you don't ask me any shit. ©
And I will support the commentator above once again: many people come here to read people's opinions about the series. ABOUT THE SERIES, NOT THE WHOLE SERIES! I like it when people make guesses and I reason by reading their guesses (because I'm such a detective).
It's the investigators, then it's not easy to get up
Arguments and evidence are purely from the category of "yes, I'm telling you that's for sure he has a suitable mug," etc
Each time they stupidly take the one on whom everything conveniently came together and press until they come to some goal, i.e. either recognition or self-release
Power💪
The screenwriters and other people clearly did not stint and threw everything they could and a harsh and callous hero with a hard fate in the form of a dying wife + discrimination based on gender and race +LGBT + unwanted children still a bunch of everything and the cherry on the cake serial
Also some raspberries with cigarettes
But I would personally kill Maman Bokova. And most of all for hypocrisy. If she had said bluntly, "I hoped she was dead and I wouldn't have to bother with her anymore," she would have aroused less contempt than with this "I thought I was tired, Marinochka-swallow." Ugh, such people make you want to puke, they exude such cloying poison.
Понятно, что он - журналист, но такое потребительское и похуистическое отношение к собственному ребёнку (таким не надо потомство заводить; маман у него тоже не особо там заботливая) - наверное, если бы Фишер грохнул Игоря тот бы сенсацию из этого сделал(