@id63505705: Well, like all creatures in the galaxy use force. She has no talent, but her abilities have been developed by training for a little bit.
Although if Ani's ghost was there all this time, maybe he threw a sword. Yoda also showed in episode 8 that the ghosts of the Force retain the ability to cast.
@dezmond774: this has never happened). There have always been very few Forsyuzers (i.e., those who are able not only to feel, but also to control). That's why one child in a million was good enough to be a Jedi. Sabine, on the other hand, never showed such abilities at all, and if it was her efforts that yielded results, then Filoni simply gave her abilities with his generous plot hand, scoring on the rules already grown into the ent of the universe that without a gift (that is, a large number of medichlorians), train for at least a thousand years, but zero sense.
@id63505705: in the sense of "after all". Ahsoka didn't take it upon herself to teach her for her beautiful eyes. And the robot seemed to say that she was weak. But not hopeless.
And what was it all about? In the end, they just swapped places? This whole season looks like a half-empty introduction to something important in the future, but this important one was not even marked with some kind of teaser. Nevertheless, we now suddenly have three different storylines for the future on this incomprehensible planet - Ahsoka/Sabin, Shin and Beylan. Only Beylan will no longer be there, alas, unless they decide to replace or digitize the actor. Morgan was generally leaked, although the whole season there was an impression that she should become one of the main opponents in the future. But no, she just died, left to cover the departure of Thrawn and the others, even the legendary Finca Talzin did not help. And Ezra's return seems to be the only one Chopper is happy, Hera didn't even hug him, what's up?
@Nog: I didn't hug and didn't hug, thank you for not shooting me. This is another brilliant scenario - to make him come out in a helmet. A crowd of nervous people with guns. "But what a dramatic effect!" the screenwriter apparently thought. Which one? I really want to ask him.
@Ytzin: well, of course they didn't know who it was inside the imperial shuttle that was flying to them, they decided to just come out to meet everything. It would be better if he jumped down beautifully in a raincoat from above with a rose in his teeth, also dramatic, but not so stupid.
@Nog: it's a laugh with the legendary Finnish woman in general. Why didn't they just shoot her with two blasters? She's not a Jedi/Sith, she wouldn't be able to fight off all the shots.
@Nog: I'm looking at this gif and I'm thinking. She had wrung the saber from her. That is, in fact, she stabbed an unarmed woman. What for? Is the actress' contract over?
@Ytzin: Yes, all these are fairy tales about fair, kind-hearted Jedi, they are two sides of the same coin with the Sith, they cut and shred for nothing, and the fact that blood does not flow is noble nonsense.
@PlanePassenger: not exactly fairy tales). These are Lucas's Jedi, fair and kind. And at Disney, according to the will of the voice of the most bloodthirsty and intolerant fans, they have already begun to change. And Ahsoka is not actually a Jedi, she was excommunicated from the Order just before the Order. It may not follow the code.
@Hidji: Let's take Lucas's Jedi apart, I'm just looking to dig around. 1. The original trilogy - Luke the Jedi tries his best not to kill anyone with a sword, feels sorry for his father and father Ray. It was noble of the POC, of course, but in fact he simply shifted the responsibility onto Vader. The main thing that everyone forgets is that the pilot—Hatch destroys the Death Star with a million people with his own hands. And no reflection at all. Yes, it is in the name of great goodness, but in itself it is not good, it is evil, violence and death. But Luke is practically the only Jedi there, maybe he just didn't fully understand the ideals of the Jedi and in fact they were sweethearts? 2. The prequel trilogy - Lucas himself deconstructs his own myth and ideal. We have a full-scale war here with a lot of casualties, the Jedi are chopping everyone into cabbage right and left. Armies of droids, and later clones, are just an impersonal metaphor for the enemy in the cheerful and colorful propaganda of a war without blood. 3. Clone Wars + Rebels. Filoni's brainchild, under the great initial supervision of Lucas. Filoni develops his ideas, bringing into the universe his philosophy from the "Legend of Aang", exposing the above-mentioned propaganda. And the excommunicated Ahsoka becomes the image of the Jedi crisis for Filoni, she sees their mistakes, hypocrisy and dogmas. The Jedi as a structure is the eternal “we wanted the best, but it turned out as always,” and the synthesis of black and white is the only hope for getting out of the circle of endless repetitions in a spiral. Disney has brought practically nothing new to the discourse here, repeating and digesting all of the above. Filoni is still special too))
@PlanePassenger: The ideology of the Jedi does not imply that they do NOT kill. They kill. But only when it is necessary. And certainly when it is self-defense or protection of the weak, oppressed, etc. And according to the classics, light destroys not only darkness, but also those who adhere to it. Always leaving the opportunity for those to repent, but also not forgetting to strike when it is the best possible outcome. After all, who says that light doesn't kill if you get close to its source? Good things happen with fists). And there was no synthesis, the Jedi always have an extremely negative attitude towards the greys, even after all the innovations. And I don't know anything about Filoni working under Lucas' supervision.
@Hidji: "protecting the weak, the oppressed, etc." Ideally, yes. Spherical goodness in a vacuum. They allowed themselves to kill, well done. "When it's necessary" - and who decides when it's necessary and when it's not? We have to wrap every phrase about necessity in pseudo-philosophical nonsense, because if we speak in human language, we get the Orwellian "War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is power." And there is one more important clarification - according to the rules of the Jedi, it is necessary to kill without emotions: anger, fear, hatred, revenge. But the Jedi Order did not fall for nothing, because it lost to the treacherous plans of Palpatine, it fell under the weight of its own inflated pride. The Jedi became generals and betrayed their own principles: they acted out of fear of separatist victory, they succumbed to anger in the heat of battle, they blindly served the political system, not justice. The war has blurred the line between defense and aggression for them. Their downfall was not even that they killed, but why they did it: not out of a pure urge to protect, but simply to win the war. The system has rotted away because it is inherently stupid and utopian. Let's all live together and suppress our emotions - it can't lead to anything bad! By the way, it is in this regard that Andor stands out positively, Cassian, Luten, Guerrera do all the same, but in contrast to the hypocrisy of the Jedi, they recognized their essence. They're not good, they're bad, and they do bad things. For the sake of goodness. It's no better, but at least it's honest.
@PlanePassenger: The Jedi fell because Qui Gon did not do what Yoda advised him to do.) And Qui Gon was one of those Jedi who tried to change the principles. Enter shades of gray
@Hidji: A strong system that breaks down when one person sneezes is an oxymoron. True strength implies immunity to isolated failures like Qui-Gon, or it's just a soap bubble. This is a classic circular argument: it turns out that such a criterion of strength is tailored to any outcome, which makes it unfalsifiable and meaningless. The original thesis about the vulnerability of the Order has been confirmed by you.
@PlanePassenger: ten thousand years of the Order's existence is also a weighty argument). And certainly better than the alternatives. There were a couple of serious failures, we survived. Like this one, however, in the end. And it's always about one particular person who makes everything fall apart. Was it ever any other way? If there was at least one example of an invulnerable system, I might have believed otherwise. But it's not there). And in the STAR franchise, no matter how much they discussed the depravity of the Order and made something bad out of it, it only got worse without its influence.
@Hidji: Ten thousand years of existence prove not the absence of vulnerabilities, but the absence of an adequate challenge that would reveal them. Palpatine became such a challenge. He is the trigger that triggered the accumulated critical mass of internal problems — dogmatism, pride, blindness. The argument "it got worse without the Order" is sophistry. He does not negate the thesis that it was the vicious and degraded system of the Order that created this vacuum and disorder with its fall. She did not contain the threat, but created it with her collapse. A system whose internal flaws lead directly to its collapse and the era of tyranny cannot be called successful by default.
@PlanePassenger: if that were the case). But I also mentioned that the Order has experienced several downfalls and has been reborn again. And there is no sophistry here, past cycles were as bad without it as in the case of the Empire. Palpatine is not the first and will not be the last challenge. And there were enough crises. So that's exactly what can be considered as such by default.
And there is still no example of an invulnerable system.
@Hidji: It is strange to pass off the cyclical nature of disasters as a sign of the success of the system. Yes, this car breaks down every day, but I fix it later and it works again! This is not proof of strength, but a symptom of a fundamental flaw: the Order is incapable of learning from mistakes. It is not evolving, but only rebooting into the same dogmatic structure with the same security holes. Each rebirth is a postponement of the next collapse, the seeds of which he sows himself.
And I did not say that there are no invulnerable systems. It just doesn't justify the Order, but only proves my original thesis: it was the best of the bad options, not the good one. And his main tragedy is that, having a monopoly on the bright side of Power, he was never able to become the ideal in which he blindly believed, and constantly reproduced the conditions for his own destruction. It's like communism that never came. There is a bright idea, a myth is being written for it, but it does not work out from time to time in the way that they use.
@PlanePassenger: and my thesis is that he was the best option available, not a bad one. That's a big difference.If there are no examples of "good" options within that "far, far galaxy," then this one cannot be called bad by default. And then, what kind of excuses are needed if the other options are worse? I understand when there is a struggle to try to build the best, and it is almost always fought along an evolutionary path with illustrative examples. But the revolutionary way, coups, wars... In the absence of a better system, breaking the old one inevitably leads to bad consequences. And the fact that the Order is restoring its sphere of influence over and over again, until people forget that it won't get any better, only proves the correctness of its ideology. There would be no need for them - the Jedi would not return from time to time. Communism will definitely not be resurrected in the same form, but it shows itself well in a modified Chinese version. So the example is exactly the opposite in essence. The Order returns from time to time. And the next fall happens not at all because of the inconsistency of ideas, but precisely because of the factors that violate this construction. Once they move away from this very ideology, here comes the result again. It was the same in episodes 1-3. That's exactly the error. The communist system needed to change. The Order's ideology, on the contrary, suffers from attempts to change it. Rather, it is more appropriate to compare it with a democratic system that had a heyday and then a slow decline due to changes that fundamentally contradict its ideals at its peak.
@Hidji: Well, yes, of the bad options available, that's right. Chemotherapy is the best alternative to death from cancer, and it can cure, but it causes direct harm to the body. It's literally a bomb that kills both its own and others. This only proves that the entire choice system in this galaxy is in a deplorable state. And why justify anything at all, I'm not saying that its destruction is right, I'm trying to objectively analyze the reasons for its fall. And what does the revolution have to do with it? Do you want to bring me under the article?) You say yourself that you need to develop, and you deny it. Everything in the world should evolve and change (this is part of the definition of life as such), but the Order should not. Why? Is it already perfect? This is what led the Jedi to their downfall.: they did not evolve, but mummified, turning from a living organism into a mechanism. I repeat, the Sith are a side of the same coin, they literally came out of the Jedi and are their mirror image, some suppress their strong emotions - others completely succumb to them. Both paths are dead ends. There's also plenty of room for psychotherapy. Emotions need to be monitored, realized, lived, worked with, and integrated. This is the only way to achieve balance, both in Strength and in life. Until the Order understands this, it will endlessly breed its own gravediggers and remain just chemotherapy for a chaotic galaxy - a painful and toxic solution, necessary only until more advanced methods appear.
@PlanePassenger: of the available bad options? No. This is NOT a bad option. Either name a good one, or this is it). And yes, the Order's system is perfect within itself and breaks only when it is changed. It just so happened. It's like a sphere in which any changes lead to its instability and destruction. I repeat, it was the changes that led to the collapse of the Jedi. It just so happened. Moreover, what is the system of choice? An Order is an Order. The Galactic Council is a completely separate structure. There is no need to merge them into a single whole. What for? The Jedi are certainly not the highest authority in the galaxy, but rather executive, with free will and decisions. By the way, we haven't found a more perfect way in 25,000 years. So the chances of him appearing are close to zero. After all, the galactic system is exactly like a democracy with this very Senate, and the Jedi are just one of its mechanisms. And he can work not only in the Republic, but certainly not in the Empire. The worldview does not allow it))). The Order was not an organism, it is a mechanism. With sixes. And as long as they all work properly, the mechanism performs its task perfectly.
@Hidji: I don't understand where you got the idea that there is always a good option, it's not like that. The famous trolley dilemma is exactly about this. And don't offer me a false dilemma, otherwise it smells like a Dud, why stoop to such a level)) The example of the sphere is extremely strange, there are a million ways to change the sphere so that it remains stable and certainly should not collapse at the slightest touch. It's more like balance, but then again, for a better balance, you need to move and change, and they put a lightsaber on the tip and for some reason they think it's going to stay that way forever. The order as a part of the political system is generally some kind of "Zen or the art of caring for an AK-47" - initially a huge stupidity, again contrary to their ideas. Because of all this, they were literally acting at the behest of the Sith, where is Qui Gon's fault here? And they are not just a mechanism, they are an outdated mechanism, antique watches can still be accurate enough for small tasks, but they have not been able to meet modern challenges for 100 years.
@PlanePassenger: calling the Sith "the slightest touch" is an original look))). I'll explain about the options. Yes, there is always a good option. It's just that it's not always available for selection. As in the trolley dilemma, the option is to stop. Would you like to name such an option here? If not, then the best one available is a good one. That's all. It's pretty simple.
@Hidji: you keep attributing things to me that I didn't say)) the slightest touch is not the Sith, but Qui Gon, this is your own argument that one person can easily and easily destroy any stable system (and generally always does, it always has been, and it can't be any other way, because 10/25/350 000 years). If an option is not available, it does not exist for selection, then this is simply an illusion of an option, you want to sell me a spherical horse again. The trolley dilemma was created specifically to show the absurdity of such thinking, there is no option to stop it, otherwise it is not a dilemma. It's just a rejection of a choice, which still leads to the initial outcome of the dilemma. Your logic leads to solipsism. A chronic illness is health, because there is a corpse nearby. The best available is the best available. This is the only logical statement in this case. Otherwise, it's Orwellian doublethink.
@PlanePassenger: "there are a million ways to change a sphere..." and further down the text to that very touch - these are your words, not mine). Qui Gon is the change here, and Palpatine and his ilk are the touch. The analogy is yours, not mine))). Or did I attribute this sentence to you??? Rather, you're attributing other words to me. And about the trolleys: Who says there are only two ways? If so, what new, better systems are you talking about in the future? There are only two ways, in your opinion. And from my point of view, there are more ways, it doesn't matter if they are allowed by someone's restrictions. If you were not given such a choice, then this does not mean that the opportunity itself is missing. We talked about this option ourselves. You're trying to convince me that the system is bad and a new option is needed, and when I try to fit into the scheme the very possibility of these best options in their absence at the moment, you deny even the theoretical chance of their existence. If we deny even the theoretical possibility of a good outcome in the form of a non-existent alternative, then we still have a bad and a good option. After all, even in your fantasies, you can't imagine any "good" outcomes in your vision. Like with trolleys. There are only two ways. And there is nothing else even in theory. In theory, not for choice. Nightmare.
@Hidji: "the slightest touch" are my words, and Palpatine's words are not mine. You said yourself that Qui Gon was entirely to blame, which is what I quoted. Perhaps, by the way, I misunderstood you there, mistaking the sphere for a ball. Regarding trolleys, this is just a concrete example that clearly shows that there are situations with two bad options. Other options are deliberately excluded by lack of time and conditions, you can also enhance the effect by putting someone close to you on one of the lines, and so on. I didn't say that all situations are like this. Hypothetically, there may be a better option. Or maybe, hypothetically, it doesn't exist. Both of these situations are possible. And you say that there is always a good choice, and if there is none, let's call it the better of two evils. But in fact, it's more of a dispute about a worldview, and it doesn't make much sense. Our main gag is in the changes: You believe that "it was the changes that led to the collapse of the Jedi," and I believe that these changes were insufficient. So what should we finally figure out, what was Qui Gon so guilty of? And the best theoretical good option is to go back to the past and just not make this religion a military force, we would be like Buddhist monks, meditating and giving advice, no sith and politics, solid nirvana and shavasana - that's what I could call the bright side)))
@PlanePassenger: and before the appearance of the Order, was there peace and quiet in the galaxy?))) The fact of the matter is that even hypothetical probabilities with a different development of the Jedi do not represent the best forms of existence. They are like a balancer of this world, preventing it from falling into chaos. It is possible that the cycles of their existence themselves are also related to balance, being the opposite vector of Force to prevent too much bias towards order. I can at least agree with this option). By the way, about nirvana. And how do you imagine this without dividing the teachings into Jedi and Sith? It is unlikely that the dark side would have stopped its influence on the Temple at that time, giving its followers to the power of the light. After all, their separation did not happen because of the formation of a military force, but because of their views on the very concept of Force. They have too different approaches to just sit in one place and meditate.
@Hidji: and then it starts, if only, I think we could have done it, we have to believe in the best, at least hypothetically, as you say. There would be turmoil in the world, but it's all just an illusion and a fuss, they would just live in harmony with the Force, and then there would be no need to balance it)) And if this is all the machinations of the Force, then again, what does Qui Gon have to do with it, it's all the Force's fault, balancing himself, you know) About the Sith Jedi: well, there were the Jedi first, I imagine. If they had appeared at the same time, it would have been a different conversation.
@PlanePassenger: The Jedi weren't even Jedi at all back then.) And then some of them started practicing working with the Dark Side. Their approach was too different from the harmony you described). They couldn't get along under the same roof. And with the absence of even a hint of the "one teacher, one student" rule in those days, they quickly became a threat. I don't remember the details, but the split was inevitable, anyway. What other conversation could there be?
@PlanePassenger: Hypothetically, yes. It was just necessary to keep people away from the places of power. Not Homo sapiens, all races in general). And as we know, only death can stop our (and others like us) craving for research. That is, even hypothetically, the chances of such a thing tend to zero. Therefore, there were others besides the Jedi. If the Order hadn't appeared, someone else would have been in their place. Moreover, there must have been someone else. I don't know if this was spelled out in the ENT, but the paper already mentioned the ancient temples of the Power of the Mountains, which are more than ten thousand years old. I have no idea what I've read is canonical. Surely you don't take seriously the extrapolation of this coven's model from Acolytes to the entire galaxy?😆 Because there is a limit to everything, even to such a theater of the absurd))).
@Hidji: I'm happy with the odds tending to zero, but not zero. There were also animals using Force. Again, as in the Avatar. And in order to avoid war, you just need to be friends with everyone, which could be easier)) Hypothetically, though.
@PlanePassenger: There were dark ones among the animals too. And they killed thousands of animals of the other side, as well as people. And in one of the ancient temples there were drawings of how the masters of that time used Force to destroy entire planets. That's where Starkiller will envy, the walking Death Starlings. These are peaceful times without the Jedi).
@PlanePassenger: Disney has abandoned midi-Chlorians at the forefront, alas). Now, using the example of this series, we see that anyone can become a Jedi if they REALLY want to.😅 It's idiotic, but the realities of the ZV universe are like that now...
@PlanePassenger: possible😁 But in fact, we have such a blow to the ENT, which is stronger than a nuclear explosion. Thanks in large part to this plot move, I am disappointed specifically with "Ahsoka", although there are plenty of other reasons. But it's like an axe they've been using to chop down a tree of Skywalker's special power that's been cultivated for decades. Having fed the audience three times before with a story about being chosen and being special thanks to genetics😒 I still don't understand why anyone could be so scared to ruin everything. Are there accusations of a cult of eugenics or a theory of superiority? Senility.
Well, congratulations, everyone on the end of the next "masterpiece" from Disney. As they say, Lucas, we're all about Bali.Well, let's go in order.The series is miserable for as much as season 3 was miserable, Mando, Obiwan and Boba Fett's book, the characters except Ezra and with a stretch Thrawn do not look like their cartoon adaptations at all.As if the people who wrote their character and dialogues didn't watch the rebels and the Clone Wars at all.Yes, by the way, congratulations to everyone, the idiot on Filloni still made Sabine a forcuser, it turns out Mary sue >medichlorians (another canon is fucked up).In general, the impressions are negative.Regarding this series, I can praise the action, for the first time in the entire season, Ahsoka does not move like a piece of stone with an axe in her hands, perhaps the fight scene with Morgan is the best, if you do not take into account the appearance of Hayden (where dad showed who is actually a Jedi in this series).The Bailon line has not received a denouement, and given the circumstances of life, we will definitely not see development.Which is a pity, because Ray's character is the only one in this series who does not cause feelings of Spanish shame, the Tire line is also fucked up.It is not clear what the creators are counting on for season 2 of ahsoka, or for a film about the end of the mando era (which we will see in at least 3 years).But in general, as usual, there are more questions than answers, but no one will give answers in the near future.Well, according to tradition, God save Andor
I'm more interested in the time canvas. The events of the series take place after the Mandalorian?
I liked the series itself. I am satisfied. I don't see the point in trolling the script and blunders. It has even become familiar. According to the script, a lot of things were discovered. And they will develop it. Whatever it was, there is a position in LucasArts - the keeper of the integrity holocron. So at least they will concoct for 4 minutes.
Of course, there was not enough drama, although the soundtrack hinted at this.
Yes, it's not Rogue One and not Andor. And not even Obi Wan. But serious films will still be released.
In the meantime, I liked the idea of making a cinematic version of the cartoon.
In Mandalorian, Andor and the Book of BF, the universe was expanded. And then they returned to the Jedi again. And good. I missed you. This is the way ✊
The events of all the series, except Kenobi, go +- parallel (9-11 aby), you can navigate both in the kvm, which series / season came out earlier and in the chronology it is earlier
@MasterGeo: The events of the series are guaranteed to take place after season 3 of "Mandalorian". The line with Morgan starts at 2.05 "Mandalorian". In the series "Ahsoka", where the bureaucracy of the republic is demonstrated, the batch on Mandalore and the death of Gideon, who is recognized by them as a "loner", are mentioned (and this is the finale of the third season of "Mandalorian" without options).
@mandrygin95: even if we accept as a rule the idea that anyone can master the force, the plot of the series will not fix it. 10 minutes ago, Sabine could do absolutely nothing by force, 5 minutes ago she moved the sword with great difficulty, now she easily throws a person up, being at a great distance from him. There is no mastery of power through long, hard training, just by a wave of a magic wand, the forces suddenly appeared.
It's cool that Ahsoka told Sabin to help open the gate when they were jumping under a volley of shots, I'll assume that this was the catalyst for her awakening in the force, she was between two force users and they pulled her to themselves in this way + all her attempts and desire before. The series itself is cool, dynamic, the fight between Ahsoka and Morgan looked beautiful. I wonder what Beylan is up to, it's a pity that we won't see Ray Stevenson in this role anymore. Of course, it ended in nothing, but they managed to convey the feeling of something coming, dangerous and epic in the last minutes.
complete nonsense from the first to the last minute, again not a single scratch was received by the Jedi, even their ship was not torn apart after the release of energy from hyperspace, there was only a slight "turbulence" and Sabine, without medichlorians, pumped the Power to the master level , damn you Disney
What confuses me most of all is that Sabinych beats off arrivals to the head by putting a blaster sideways to it (he's like something as durable as beskar or other durable materials) 2 series, she so beat off 2-3 arrivals in each (He should have crumbled a long time ago).
Well, as for the Master, I disagree a little, her fencing is crooked even against zombie storm fighters, she drove her like an ace xD hot water bottle all season (although she herself is only a student of Beylan). Well, 2 pushes and the attraction of the blade, hardly pulls on the qualification of a master.
As I remember from old movies, a padawan to become a knight had to defeat an enemy with a blade (kill). Obi earned the rank by killing ( as he and the council then thought ) Darth Maul. So Saba is still a beginner))
And if I'm not mistaken, the history of the universe knows several Mandalorians sensitive to the force. Although the mandalore from her in the series came out a comical parody of a warrior.
@Zverenysh: Sabin fought off shots with handcuffs from beskar, actually, and not with a blaster. Even in a helmet, like a decent Mandarolets, it's inconvenient for her to fight =))
@The Little Beast: This is only if you don't watch the "Mandalorian", where they hammer in detail about beskar into you =)) By the way, she even fired a valuable whistle projectile here, which she delivered separately (a kind of homing mini-rocket from a wrist brace, there she knocked out a bunch of fighters with it).
Against the background of the vast majority of TV series, this one is not the worst. Perhaps only Andor was a more or less serious work, at least the series did not seem like a children's fairy tale.
to have such potential in the form of the characters Ahsoka, Thrawn and Anakin and to remove such a shame. Excuse me, madam. thanks for Anakin, but even the fanservice turned out to be weak, although Hayden dragged as best he could. Morgan was dead, and thank God that lack of emotion was getting on my nerves. At least their last fight with Ahsoka looked more lively. The idea of Beylan's character was the most interesting, but it was written very stupidly. Sabine is a cringe, and the fact that Ahsoka has decided to support her absolutely goofy decisions is just beyond me. Hera - just that she is, that she is not - there is no difference at all. how can you shoot such lazily written and thought-out content over and over again, see the reaction of fans, see ratings and how much money they lose over and over again, and continue to shoot the same nonsense?? Answer me, Disney, answer me 🙄
I'm also wondering if Ezra will teach little Jason how to use the force. Just like his late father used to do. And in this sense, Ahsoka's most obvious blunder is to overlook such a talent and choose Sabine as a student. 🤦♂️ Oh well.
And these people who wrote the script will now receive more money. It's certainly better than Obi-Wan.
Just a quick retelling: Ahsoka and Sabin go in search of Thrawn, find him and Ezra, but he escapes. There's also a grandfather and a granddaughter who don't know why they were there. 2 lines for 6 episodes of 45 minutes each
But you just had to do 3 sentries and then it would have looked more lively.
Thrawn is a pot-bellied man, and it seems that he only likes to talk a lot. And then he'll die like Gideon. That is, stupidly.
Ahsoka, the whole series is just "🙂" and that's it. No disclosures, nothing
Well, I'm not going to justify that, when it's bad, it's bad. Thrawn himself says at the beginning: "start preparing for docking in orbit," but no, the laziness of the scriptwriter drives the booster ring down, not the other way around. And this ship is a Jedi ship, and its altitude. Only in the last episode, the same ship successfully dodged at least three fighters throughout the series. And by the way, here's the scene of the Stormtrooper massacre, have you ever thought that even Dave, let alone the Jedi films, had never faced such a crowd before? They are not Neo, they have limitations on control and everything else. Every time in such a situation, they either ran away or surrendered, or a piano fell on the stormtroopers from the bushes, but there has never been such a cheerful passage. There is also Chinese dancing with a witch who suddenly learned how to use a ball and face one of the best living swordsmen in the galaxy on equal terms. And two deserters who are more effective than two platoons of stormtroopers. The witch duels with Ahsoka again, while the stormtroopers stand around and watch. They're probably sick. The Jedi stormtroopers are not so much detaining as pushing them up. This is the quintessence of Thrawn's skill. The skill of playing along with the scriptwriters. Although shooting your fortress instead of the enemy's ship is also not bad. Then this pussy, who said "No negotiations" ten minutes ago, starts negotiations. Here I wanted to finish watching, but curiosity won out. In general, I don't like it somehow. The second season is please without me. And yes, here it is most acutely felt that Dave is playing out the Rebels, well, playing out and playing out, why not? But why was it called Ahsoka? And it's clear that at the time of filming it was still unclear, but at the installation they already knew that Beilin would not be there any more. Was it difficult for him to edit a normal ending? Well, at least the birds came at the end. At least one joy.
@Ytzin: "the laziness of the screenwriter drives the acceleration ring down, and not vice versa." by the way, after some reflection, I think this is not laziness. There was nothing to stop the scriptwriter from simply saying that the loading was not finished yet and the destroyer would have hung there. Actually, at the conceptual level, it sounds cool, Thrawn is in a hurry to load the Nazi gold onto the ship, while the stormtroopers are desperately trying to hold off the Jedi onslaught. But the implementation... yes. So this is not laziness, this is editing. Many things indicate that they were mounted through tears and cut five times. There are vagueness, skipping some scenes and stretching others, and a clear division into sequels that do not flow from each other, but simply line up in a row. Well, in short, the obvious suffering of the editor. Which almost always lead to such nonsense - first the ring descends into the atmosphere (this is generally a separate pain, for some reason, before the Disney trilogy, I was sure that large ships would not enter the atmosphere in the future, it ruins diving much more than these sounds of yours in space and other fifth-grade experts), and then the ring it rises back into orbit with the destroyer and only then departs.
And well, I forgot to praise you separately, if there was anything good in this series, it was the dialogue between Ezra and Hu Yang (although the idea of assembling a lightsaber for a time, like your Kalashnikov, is also such a thing). They're both great guys. It's just strange that they call Duma Canon.
@Ytzin: Are you saying it's weird that Kanan (Jarrus) is called Caleb (Doom)? Like Hu Yang shouldn't have known his new name? But, as we are given to understand, he worked with Ahsoka during the Uprising.
@Ytzin: >Not to mention the movies, the Jedi have never faced such a crowd. The Geonosis Arena has logged out of the chat. She showed perfectly well that superiority in firepower is good for even full-fledged knights.
@fluffyevil: Well, yes, I'll score a dozen of these scenes, even from 4-6, even from 1-3, even if it's on the CW. Drones, yes, they were shot down like that, but this is a separate conversation.
@Ytzin: What kind of "such"? Scenes where 200+ like great Jedi stand up to a crowd like pathetic tin cans and 90% of the swordsmiths are left dead in the sand?
@fluffyevil: g-d, well, OK. Sun, let me explain to you how the discussion works. I say: there were no such scenes. You answer me, you're lying, hater, here's the scene, the movie, the timing. The Arena of Genesis, if anything, is not an option at all, because... Well, I'm too lazy. The obvious needs to be explained to you, right?
@Ytzin: >The obvious needs to be explained to you, right? It's obvious that you made a mistake without thinking. Again. Am I right? Don't answer, I know kekw is right.
@fluffyevil: You've already started a completely meaningless (well, no enrichment) dialogue for five lines and now you're getting personal. I don't know, have some tea, they say it calms you down.
@fluffyevil: Soryan, I was a little like that yesterday, which was worth a cup of tea. In short, droids are droids, they were really chopped up in batches. Stormtroopers are still a bit different.
@Ytzin: So when Thrawn called Ahsoka before the jump, he did it not for the sake of negotiations, but as a mockery of the losers, because he understood that now they would jump and these elusive avengers would not be able to stop them in any way. Dancing with a witch is a joke, of course, it's all about becoming a Jedi who gets their hands on an artifact weapon or a lightsaber. And the stormtroopers generally operated in their usual range of stupidity) With Baylon, there is a hint of a sequel - Statues of the Gods of Mortis
@Iamliam23: and ten minutes before that, why wasn't he ready to tell kabanikha where he was going? And from what? Moreover, why is he doing this in public, on purpose? What for? Hey, you've already sold the livers, I remember you definitely ate them. You understand that it's not your fault, but you already owe us a yard of lawsuits, cookies are expensive these days, but if you hire ten co-sponsors, then you owe us ten times less. Good luck!
The finale is almost the most important part, even if the season is not very good, you can slightly correct the impressions, but Disney constantly manages to make the finales weak in their series. The budget is there, the timing is good, the actors are almost all on the level, but the script fails, in theory the whole story could have been put into a 2-hour film, but they stretched it so much. And it would have been fine if we had used our time, but there were very few cool moments, and a lot of meaningless ones.
Well, everyone is used to the armor of the ZV characters, but it causes direct irritation, especially when Ahsoka and the team broke through to the ship.
So, the general verdict: you should finish the Rebels, Filya... I'd make myself a fifth season of the cartoon before my movie, that's all. But no, in the wake of the hype on Mando, I wanted a series. In the end, it's still better than Obi Wan, but he's very, very far from two really good TV series in the ZV universe. It's sad, there were hopes at the start, but now it's even difficult to determine the overall assessment.
Was this the season finale? It doesn't seem to be bad, but it's kind of weak. Well, OK, Ezra has returned to his home galaxy, Thrawn too, but what about the others? Are you looking forward to the second season? Has it already been confirmed?
@Raych: And the joke is that they're like, well, OK, but Ezra came home... Is it okay that the worst enemy has returned with the sisters of the night and an entire army? How did they even imagine the outcome? That the three of them are piling on everyone. Anyway, if Ahsoka hadn't found the sphere, it wouldn't have happened, but the gun should have gone off. Mickey Mouse needs money.
@kw_est: How would it not be? Have you forgotten that this sphere was also hunted by droids in the beginning? Ahsoka just beat them to it and crushed them. Then Sabine stole her home, and the droids and Shin came to her. Or did you think, why did they go there, after our heroes?
@alavitka: It's all part of the plot, with many details omitted and happening off-screen. The question is, if the sphere was known before, why was so much time lost? Or Morgan Elzbeth was in prison receiving information from the sisters of the night about the location of the sphere, which is unlikely (then how did Ahsoka find out?). A more logical version is that Ahsoka, in the best traditions of Lara Croft, unraveled this mystery, bringing a tail along the way. After all, the surveillance of gg was conducted after that. Morgan Elzbeth knew Ahsoka was looking for Ezra.
@kw_est: Well, actually, Morgan said in plain text, "your visions took me among the stars." That is, it was specifically the "Norns" who told her what to look for and where through witchcraft. That's how Ahsoka found out about it- the third question. And it was not noticeable from her whole disposition that she was looking for Ezra like that. She actually spied on Morgan (see Mando forgot which season) to prevent Thrawn's return. The opportunity to find Ezra was more of a hook for Sabine, and as soon as Ahsoka said: "Let no one come back." In general, I have the impression that you have some kind of your own series that does not relate to what was in the plot earlier. But why invent a wheel?
@Raych: In general, it is possible to guess what could have been in the 2nd season of Ahsoka. Thrawn hides, gathers an army, looks for allies, the Republicans find him, at some point a war begins, he is defeated by common efforts (one super skilled pilot turns off the force field of the entire army and their ships are blown up). XD Then at the end, Ezra and co. take this accelerator and fly after Ahsoka. Only the series probably shouldn't be called Ahsoka anymore, but something else. Or this one should have been called something else and just be a continuation of the rebels. In short, there are questions..I wouldn't be surprised if they don't extend it.
It was as if they had promised me something cool and deceived me. The ending, like the beginning of the series, is made up of something that is unclear. I was disappointed because I thought that the series was being rehabilitated and the previous episodes seemed to me to talk about it. As a result, we got what we got.
As cool as the zombie sisters of the night and their machete with Grievous and droids were in the Clone Wars, it looks exactly the opposite here, cringe-worthy and shabby. Damn, Filoni, how's that? You've already written season 7 of the Clone Wars, the last 4 episodes are generally masterpieces, and in Ahsoka you just made a fart.
Eight episodes of some kind of prequel to something more (hopefully). They stretched it out as much as they could to get two months of subscription out. I can't see Sabine as a Jedi, she's being overly attracted to the role of a force-sensitive Mandalorian. There was not a single hint during the four seasons of the Rebels, this was already thought up by the hatter in hindsight.
I liked the choreography, we saved up furioka for the last episode. Bailan seems to be waiting for a recast.
In general, the events can be described in several sentences. But to heat up the season as much as the figures above do is simply ridiculous) This is an ordinary piece of gum that adds several important events/characters to the further narrative of the development of the universe, what else did you expect from the series on streaming, lol) We looked at the freebie and received constructive and not-so-constructive criticism from constructive and not-so critics. If you're so upset and angry about TV shows, maybe you shouldn't spend more time on them?)
@maxbrownium: It was, it was. Kenan was still training her to the minimum level when they clipped Mandalore's dark sword in the tank near the Pier. They decided to make her a sluggish enforcer back in The Rebels. It's just that the dark sword line with Sabine didn't lead anywhere in the end, and Kenan also died in season 4. That's where her training clearly kicked in.
It's like suddenly meeting high school love after twenty years. The voice is the same, the memories are pleasant, but when you look at it, you want to cover the photo with a footcloth. The fanservice here is a five, and everything else, with rare exceptions like Bailan and droid, is a weak three, sliding into a two. There is no normal plot, no character development, no dialogues... Sorry.
The best fight of the season in the end is Ahsoka and Morgan, which immediately shows that Morgan is playing the daughter of a martial artist and a martial artist herself. You can't hide your skill, as they say. Rosario looks very pale against her background and won only because of the scenic armor.
"Chewie, we're home." 😁 So far, the reference model from the TV series universe is Andor. Ahsoka's not bad, but she's learned a lot about the plot and drama.…
Just like in the case of Obi Wan, it's not straight shit, but it's so depressing that the world wouldn't have lost anything if this series hadn't happened. It turned out to be boring, tedious, with fanservice for the sake of fanservice, and with the new canon, where anyone can be a strong enforcer without the need for harsh training, and the story armor will protect even from a light stick right in the belly. Just think, the liver is gone, it is not needed to be strong and independent, but the next day it is already running.
Of course, Ahsoka herself was particularly distinguished, the actress diligently plays the role of "oh, well, it's so hard to explain my motivation" to literally any question. There's not much of her in the Mandalorian, so she didn't piss me off, there's a lot of her here, and it's annoying. However, cardboard and single-celled characters are the norm for animals, but even here they have gone a bit overboard. The only one who turned out well was the voice of the actor who played Thrawn, that's just very good.
To people who would advise, in order to be filled with the plot and characters, to watch all the cartoon episodes, read all the books and scroll through all the comics, I can only suggest taking a look at Netflix's Van Pease film adaptation, where I didn't have to read 1,090 manga chapters and watch 1,080 anime episodes to enjoy it.
I'll add what I wrote for the last episode - the running time of about 320 minutes is only 50 minutes shorter than the running time of the original trilogy of 370 minutes, which already says a lot about the talent of the creators.
@gooodvin: Bad acting is bad directing, as they say. Mb this is the situation here.
It is also possible that Filoni wants to shove his beloved brainchild into the original canon by any means possible, but since there is no special talent and the character of children's cartoons looks like cardboard in person, it turned out what happened.
At the end of the last episode: Grand Admiral Thrawn - "Withdraw the troops and ships, we have delayed Ahsoka for a sufficient time" At the beginning of this episode: Grand Admiral Thrawn - "Send two Tie Fighters after the Jedi"
Well, you can see the genius of command right away.
There are some impotents on the screenwriters' slot. They didn't even show what was in the chests, which were loaded for three days. I wish we could open one last one. If there are kyber crystals, it means a new Death Star - it could pay off the whole season.
Anakin is wonderful, thanks to the series for the new inserts in various movies.
Zombies, dark stormtroopers, simple stormtroopers and their captain - we are waiting for you in collectible lego sets, then they will cost money, just like the Inquisitors and Thrawn now.
Bail, as a dark Jedi with his, alas, unfinished storyline, is also charming.
Ezra and Hyoyang, thank you for not taking them. The type of actor Ezra does not repel, such a kind person. And the droid is just a sweetheart.
AND THAT'S IT!
The rest is all lost, Ahsoka, who somehow doesn't catch on; the great Thrawn, who doesn't cause trepidation and anticipation of something cool, as it was in the cartoon; Chopper, who didn't even hit anyone; And other victims of the incompetent screenwriter...
@giftsvamp: She's good, of course, but as Rogso noted in the comments to the fifth episode, what a wild mix of all kinds of fencing styles there is.: One minute they're cosplaying movies, the next they're trying to be European, the next they're Japanese, and now Zhang Yimou's been kicked. I never thought that Datomiris are actually kung fuists. Which of the actors knows how to do it stylistically and falls. It's not very pretty.
@Ytzin: well, then we need fight directors and fencing coaches in preparation for filming, here, apparently, they saved on them. And then there's the editing - choose the right angles, add acceleration, deceleration - it didn't happen either.
Ahsoka waves her sabers like lamps and seems afraid to break them, Bailan wields a lightsaber like a cast-iron two-handed sword. What Sabine did in the final fight is better not to show anyone, I laughed at how ridiculously the stormtroopers move in order to substitute for the skill of the actress)
@giftsvamp: Beilin is such a knight of the old-fashioned films about the Teutonic Order, yes. Well, I still try to focus on what they do. Although there really aren't enough comedies right now.
@Ytzin: Take even more ancient ones... this is Titt Pullo... the centurion from Rome))) ps. and it's a pity that we won't see him in the second season, since the actor died in May of this year.
@Ytzin: Just last year, the actor played in the Indian epic RRR (Rise, Roar, Revolt) about the confrontation between revolutionaries and British colonialists in India. That's where he's great as the governor- the main villain.
Well, it's a stretch, of course, but generally watchable. Only logical stretches sometimes cause confusion.
For example, why didn't Shin return to the cruiser, if the Jedi had time, then she certainly should have - she left earlier. And what did she do with a sword at the end in front of the bandits? Judging by the expression on his face, suicide through a fight with a superior opponent? Otherwise, why draw a sword? Although in theory she could chop them up, but why? Did you decide to stay and become the leader, out of grief that you lost the master earlier than you thought? In general, it's a lot of questions.
Beylan's line is intriguing - what was he looking for there. Ahsoka will probably find it, too, since she's where she belongs. It's just not clear how they'll get out without an actor.
Sabine was infuriating the whole way - how a 13-year-old teenager behaved, but it seems like they have a programmatic disease of the genre in order to catch a child of the appropriate age. I even feel a little sorry for Morgan - she was so stupidly leaked, because she went such a long way! And she was sacrificed as cannon fodder...
And so, it seems, the second season will be. We are waiting, sir.
@alavitka: Moreover, Shin could even return on the ship with the corpses. And Balan told her to go back to the empire. In short, it feels like the last episode was really riveted on the knee, the number of logical holes simply exceeds all the norms.
As far as I understand, the whole series was filmed for the sake of something big in the future and Anakin. Well, why stretch everything into 8 episodes if you could fit a maximum of 4 episodes?
Mndaaaa. The series is called Ahsoka, Ahsoka is like the main character. Ahsoka has no character development at all for 6 episodes (character development). Even Obi-Wan looks like a model of screenwriting against her background: there at least the main character had some kind of internal conflict that was resolved by the finale, and in general the series would even be good if it weren't for the terrifying little Leia and the nightmarish Roar. Ahsoka started with what she started with in terms of character, and finished with that. And in general, why did she go through the whole series with the same facial expression? Is that how she thinks Jedi behave? Well, as if Anakin, Obi-Wan, and damn, even Yoda allowed themselves emotions. Why is Ahsoka so mysterious all over herself? I won't talk about the stupidity of Sabine, the stupidity of the plot, nightmarish action movies, they wrote everything from above. Stupidly merged the beautiful Elsbeth. Shin walked around with bulging eyes all the time, causing very funny associations. And yes, Bailon looked really good, but only against the background of all the others, so he is also boring and his fights also did not pull at all (okay: in principle, only Anakin and Elsbeth pulled). In general, Filoni-versa's finest hour was the finale of the second season of the Mandalorian. Everything after that just slides down and down. (Andor is a separate category, an exception and a masterpiece). I really love Star Wars, and after the first two seasons of Mando, there were such high hopes for the continuation of the universe, I believed that Filoni would treat this case with love for ZV. Unfortunately, the love of money has won. That 's why it 's insanely insulting now :(
How production hell can touch Ahsoka, Season 3 of Mando, the book of Boba Fett and Obi-wan, but not touch Andor.All the series were developed at about the same time, they were released at about the same time.But for some reason, Andor, to which Filloni has nothing to do, turned out to be a masterpiece, and everything else that the hatter touches turns into a pumpkin?
@mandrygin95: Uh, well, at least because there are different people in the credits, right? There's Tony, there's Dave, there's some kind of third showrunner in this Kenobi of yours (hopefully). I'm not justifying the bad ending of this particular series, I just see (see above) that this series was painfully and poorly assembled. And as a result, it was poorly assembled.
@Ytzin: so Ahsoka's problem is not only in the ending, the series itself turned out to be very weak.If it wasn't for a ton of fanservice, it would be a complete failure.
@mandrygin95: As a slightly indifferent observer, I don't see any fundamental qualitative differences in Andor (except for a lot of chatter), and that's how he gets out of the spirit of classical sounds. There's every kind of angst, etc. - apparently, it's coming to people today as "realism". And it's catchy. But calling it a masterpiece is a big overkill. If I'm ready to call something a masterpiece of presentation, it's Mando for its conciseness and beauty. As it is, everything was shot at about the same level, if we talk about professionalism. The plot is full of holes everywhere and the strained suffering in Andor is annoying. At least in the rest of the series there is no such whining.
This is so that you can imagine that to someone everything seems quite homogeneous and unassuming at the root. Commercial candy, no more.
Animals have long outgrown the "classical" concept, there are many adult and serious works inside the universe that reveal the ENT of the world.Even within the "classical" works, these topics were raised, but Glory, who came for piu-piu, did not notice this.So the masterpiece of Andor is that this project can show the inside of the familiar world of sound, while showing it all clearly, structured and concise.Andor shows a holistic plot and not wooden characters with their problems.What we haven't seen in Ahsoka, and in principle in all the latest projects.Even if the projects of the ZV universe were originally meant to be entertaining (which is actually not the case) this does not give the creators of the "wonderful series", including the 3rd season of Mando, Ahsoka, Obiwan, and the Book, the right to expose well-known and beloved characters as idiots.The universe also has an established ent and canon, which even the creator has no right to violate, but the stupid hatter apparently doesn't care about the established laws of the universe.So what am I talking about?Andor takes a part of the universe of stars and shows how different the inside is from the outside, and Ahsoka, taking a part of the universe, shows how much worse we can do what was well done before us.
@mandrygin95: The franchise has a certain style - and I'm not talking about piu-piu (although this is also important), but about the spirit, which determines at the spinal cord level how much a work is "SOUND" and how much is not. Yes, we've always had high tech - low life, going into space like on a minibus, but at the same time drinking from rusty mugs, and this low life can be described and brought out as the main characters. But in my opinion, Andor is the least like Star Wars. Not because of the drama and lack of fights on lightsabers, but simply because there is no characteristic vibe. When watching it, I had the feeling that I was watching something from a completely different universe, only by a strange coincidence it had the same names of realities and scenery - well, not all of it. And if we consider it as an abstract independent sci-fi work, basically, then Andor itself and the prison series are interesting, but the endless chatter on the "upper strata" and the "police detective" component is completely jaw-dropping, so it's 50/50. At the same time, the same Rogue One has gone into drama, but this vibe is fully present.
Imho, the "spirit" is perfectly conveyed in the Mandalorian, in the Book, too, in principle, but to a lesser extent. Ahsoka and Obi-Wan are pure fanservice, and poorly written fanservice at that. I don't think the world would have lost much if they hadn't been taken down.
Definitely better than Kenobi, there's quite some running around. Although in Ahsoka, I didn't really understand the global idea of the season, if in the end Thrawn came back, and Ahsoka and Sabin were stuck somewhere. Since I didn't watch the animated series, characters like Sabine or Ezra weren't changed much, it was more interesting to watch Baylan, but his line led to absolutely nothing, completely cut off. The same goes for Shin, the feeling that the character was needed only because there is always a rule of two, no more. As a result, I did not see the full-fledged development of the characters anywhere. It's all strange.
However, I enjoyed the sword fight with Morgan, the fight was much more active and dynamic than the others. But even here there are questions - what kind of circle of honor was organized by the stormtroopers, why such nobility? In short, it's kind of average, Disney would like to take a break and complete all these series with the promised full meter, and that's enough.
By the way, I remembered something. Isn't Bailan standing on his Father's statue at the end? The Son is next to her, and there is a rift in the Daughter's place... Or is it bullshit and just similar? I understand that this line is highly unlikely to be continued unless a replacement for Stevenson is found, but it's still interesting.
@Hidji: these are the monuments of "Mortis". Two whole, the third broken. The line may well be continued (Ahsoka and Sabine must somehow get off the planet), but without Bailon.
Damn, well, I really liked it, in fact, I watched the season in one go.
It's interesting to see the characters I once watched in animation. Even at that moment, when I was watching the Rebels, did I think that I would ever see their movie versions? This is a very interesting move)
It's a good ending, I think that after many years, in the second season, Ezra will return for them, and Sabin will already be a trained Jedi.
It turned out to be a great series, and I'm glad that the last episode of the season didn't disappoint. They showed us very good fights, it was nice to watch. And the groundwork for the second season is interesting.
I foresee fierce burning of the fifth points of the local fanatics, who diligently hated every episode here, looking for any little thing so that they could express their dissatisfaction. But everything has been clear with them for a long time, there is no point in paying attention to them at all. It's always going to be wrong and wrong. That's the way. 🤗
@flaxman: I don't know, I don't really like the series as a whole, but I really liked the seventh and sixth episodes. Well, this one looks like a failure. Corny boring, it would be nice to have a place to burn. Again, I'm jealous, it's cool that at least someone liked it. And what exactly did you like?
@Ytzin: On the contrary, I liked episodes 6 and 7 the least, there was too little action. In general, I liked the whole series.: 1. The general atmosphere. 2. Well-chosen cast 3. Great music and picture 4. Good space fighting and sword fighting 5. A separate point, of course, is the appearance of Anakin and the flashbacks from Clone Trooper. 🤗🤗🤗
The sound is normal, the plot will go, but the fights of which a third of the series and the series could have been better staged. You look right at me and it's a shame!
@IronFOX: Well, first of all, why not immediately Tajik? I was quite like that when I was young. And secondly, I didn't even recognize that the droid had worked.
Ahsoka's 1st season has ended. I think we're so spoiled by the amount of content in the SV universe that many are already starting to show off and find fault. In my opinion, everything in this series was generally good, if you don't find fault: the visual, the cast, the storyline (except for the ending), the dumb stormtroopers, the fan service (especially). As for the ending, it doesn't contain any ellipsis, intrigue, hints at a possible sequel, it doesn't entice you to look further, It's just a stump. This also applies to Thrawn's line with Ezra and Balan's line. Only Ahsoka's character seems to be in his place - like everything is clear, we are resting here until they come to pick us up. Then the question arises - why do the 2nd season if Ahsoka is in her place and all subsequent events will obviously be related to Ezra and Thrawn? I'll go further - why then the 2nd season of Ahsoka, if her Persian is practically not there?(unless, of course, she and the turtles build an intergalactic accelerator)) Even further, why was this series called Ahsoka? They could have just removed the continuation of the Rebels) In general, I was glad to see old acquaintances, but the way the writers ended the series is more like its finale, then I'll understand everything. I hope we'll find out soon. I'm betting that the continuation of the Insurgency will be announced.
Overall, the series is stronger than Kenobi. But, it's unclear why Bailan and his student were introduced, their characters in episode 8 showed no one for a minute. And now how to get Ahsoka and Sabine off this God-forsaken planet? It looks like the second season will be called Rebels.
@Garet: and what should I find there? I Googled... the Great Russians – they received the least benefits from the Empire and paid the most for its existence with their own lives. The life expectancy of Russian men in 1897 was lower than that of Neanderthals (33-35 years). That wasn't very clever, was it? There were few pogroms. The Russians are too kind. We will not stop saying thank you to Grandpa Lenin!
It's not a good season yet again. Sabine is officially the most annoying character. It's better for Thrawn to go to the gym on arrival, although Lars has a good voice, you can't argue. Well, the crown of it all is Ahsoka's phrase that they are exactly where they should be. I mean, on a God-forsaken planet, having failed a mission? OK, what. I wonder what they'll do with Balon. They will recast or stupidly forget about the character.
I was kind of waiting for the series, although I don't really understand all these star wars at all, but my opinion is twofold: it seems beautiful, but what is it all for anyway? In general, the characters remained mostly undisclosed, periodically only the actions raised questions. It is very doubtful and everything has ended (we are where we should be! - Okay😂)
If Ahsoka hadn't given that fool the map, none of this would have ever happened. In general, Sabine was annoyed by the whole series, not having the strength at one point, 20 minutes before the end of the season, she began to use it to the fullest. Luke had spent weeks on Dagobah, and it was with great difficulty that he pulled the ship out of the cracks. In just 10 minutes, she, at will, having no skills and standing "first from the end", showed such power abilities that even Luke did not dream of in his first months of training ... In general, I was rooting for the empire the whole series, which is extremely strange...
Ray Stevenson certainly won back every penny of his salary! No one has ever played a villain so harshly and fatherly. It's a pity that he was given so little screen time. The story of Balon in his performance would be a gorgeous continuation of the star saga.
@Masim8888: Ray Stevenson died of cancer in May and this was his last role... He played beautifully, but the small amount of screen time is most likely due to illness.
@Masim8888: "and it was with great difficulty that I pulled the ship out of the quagmire."
He hadn't pulled it out, he hadn't learned zen yet, and he was chasing to do everything faster, so he could confidently lift only stones off the ground, and as a result, he blew out the bat, lost his arm, and almost stumbled, condemning all of Jedi to extinction. And the ship pulled out Yoda, showing that weight doesn't matter.
And this is the new canon, any random scourge can now wield power at the master level with years of training, because he is a strong and independent character.
By the way, continuing the theme of the new canon and the author's misunderstanding of how and what should work in cinema. In Episode 3, there was a scene where Sabin tries to refresh his old skills in the force. An obvious plagiarism of a similar scene from the original trilogy, where old Ben decided to show what strength is by giving Luke a sword and a closed helmet. Luke then said that all these are old tales, it doesn't make sense at all, and how he should repel drone attacks if he can't see anything. And only in the course of the film does he become convinced that the force really exists, it is present in him, and listening to Ben's voice, he undermines the death star, catching the right moment to fire bombs. A visual growth of a character in 2 hours, who went from not believing in fairy tales to someone who then sees the spirit of his grandfather, hears his voice and wants to become like him.
Immediately, Sabine is able to do it from the very beginning due to the level of many years of training, but she doesn't know how, she forgot, but then along the way she remembers again and starts doing witchcraft with her hands and waving a flashlight. What did the author mean by that, be on style and everything will work out by itself?
In general, I'm disappointed. Ahsoka herself is in the series Ahsoka series on 3. She is silent almost all the time, as opposed to VK, where she did not shut up)) I understand age, it's a long way, but why is it so depressing? We all loved Ahsoka not only for her looks and lekka, but also for her character. Even in the Mandalorian, she performed more brightly.
Thrawn. Well....Bad. You can't get into a character with blue makeup and a good actor, even if he talks slowly and calmly. Thrawn had a sense of power, spirit, some kind of mystery and a little bit of horror. In the Rebels. There's no sign of that here. And don't tell me about the long years of exile.
As I have already written, Sabine was greatly changed for this plot, removing Mandalocia, skills, character, and making her a stupid girl with a big dream. It was a good thing she hadn't left with Ezra, even though it was clear that she wouldn't leave Ahsoka a second time.
Ezra is a complete miskast to me. A sweet smile, kind eyes, and that's it. From what I remember of Ezra (and am even reviewing some Rebel episodes now), nothing.
Bailon. Complete misunderstanding. A bunch of solemn silent pathos and two monologues with longing for the past. And he left. And cheto is looking. And he won't find it. because the actor is no more. He was a handsome man. But the character is completely past me and about nothing.
Tires. There's nothing to talk about at all.
The best of the season are Hyuyang (or whatever it's actually pronounced, but localizers still giggle at Japanese names), and nomadic crabs. Another win-win cuteness.
What terrible sword fighting. And these zombies are still standing around and watching. Why did they even add them and drag them to the fight scene if they hadn't thought out their behavior in any way?
Such a thing. You didn't have to take it off. The zombie stormtrooper who suddenly ran away especially smiled. If Lucas had done it, you could have said, "I have explosions in space," and "I have zombies running around.")
Mixed feelings. On the one hand, I got a solo album about Ahsoka, which I had been hoping for since the days of VK. On the other hand, the series is not about her at all. This is a sequel to the Rebels, starring Sabine, who is behaving very stupidly and who for some reason wants to become a Jedi. Yes, and Ahsoka is shown so-so, as if they had played it off for show. Well, in general, it's even some kind of disrespect for a cool character, why is that with her?(( Hope for season 2, if there is one - after all, there was a reason why her bird flew to her at the end. P.S. the duel with Morgan is normal, like herself, it's even a pity that she died, besides, right after she was "pumped"
What did I just watch??? Who are these walkers in space?))And the staging of the fights??Yes, when I was a child, the school cleaner waved a mop more intensively than Ahsoka.What a mess..
I like Hayden Christensen in this series. In general, I thought that Ahsoka and Sabina would stay. Apparently, there will be some kind of sequel in other series, or this story will not develop in any way.
Maybe I missed the scene where the whales from Doctor Who arrived and saved everyone? Or what? I don't understand why the fuck I'm going to finish the season without finishing it.
Overall, the series is clearly better for me than Obi-Wan and Boba Fett's Book, at least it doesn't have such a huge number of scenes that cause "Spanish shame."
But Ahsoka's problem is that this series is completely based on 2 animated series that not everyone has watched (most people who watch live-action series skip animation) and exists solely to introduce a new antagonist to the Mandalorian to replace Gideon.
As for the characters, in general, everyone played quite well, except Ahsoka. I don't know what the main problem of the character is. Maybe it was the excessive makeup that hindered Rosario Dawson's facial expressions or the generally lean character of the character, but the series was a little better in any scene where the main character of the series was not present.
It looks like there should be another episode. How did Ezra escape from the Dreadnought? Where exactly was the bearded Jedi going? Well, at least they showed some kind of building, and not a light on the horizon. As Ahsoka and her student will be returning, it would be possible to make a reserve for this. What is Thrawn's next step? Well, and in general, there are questions about the quality of the series. There are no arches of the characters, the actors have no emotions. The most charismatic is Ahsoka's droid... Who only has eyes that can express something. A lot of things are unclear if you haven't watched cartoons before. Sword fighting is still shit. If they don't continue, I won't be upset.
@Lighthouse012: The bearded ex-Jedi was clearly looking for some kind of force artifacts or a local temple. The statues from the Mortis trinity are quite suggestive.
The series is saturated with unjustified excessive pathos, which sometimes looks ridiculous. Apart from that, there is no plot as such. Rather, it is, but it is too simple for 8 episodes. As we wrote above, it can be described in 3 sentences and literally lose nothing. It would be fine if it was seasoned with some kind of deep disclosure of the characters, but no, after all. The disclosure is also quite superficial. Maybe the action movie is cool? Well, no either, 2-3 more or less good fighting scenes for the whole season. In general, as far as I'm concerned, it's very weak, just a few times worse than the Mandalorian and even Boba Fett. It was empty and uninteresting, even the fanservice did not save.
I read the comments and wonder, "Everything is wrong with this series" Personally, I enjoyed another meeting with my beloved Universe and nothing will spoil this pleasure for me)
What can I say: Pros - I really liked the visual range - the graphics are nice, the costumes, the framing. The music is good, the makeup (talk thrawn and Hera somehow didn't come out very well, as for me) There are more cons, a lot more - the plot, the acting, the action movie, my God, did the choreography of the fights really have to be changed in a movie about Jedi warriors???! Plot presentation, scenario moves, dialogues - the weakest thing, what the series, the movie, whatever, should be based on, they didn't work out at all... The result: watching the background while you're working will go, you won't remember the series in a year
Oh, if all the Jedi were like these three, then Order 66 would have survived without any problems.
But seriously, the series is passable, although the show does not clarify anything to a person who has not watched cartoons. It's confusing. Well, that's it... We are waiting for the second season.
If you read it, everyone's talking like that, but I liked it! I was just watching, not trying to figure something out for myself. And so the series looks cheerful. I was glad to see Ahsoka again.
A sour ending, however... The energy demon has escaped from captivity, war is coming, Asosoka and Padawan are stuck in the ass of the world, but there is a reserve for the second season, which pleases)
I liked the visual (I won't even find fault with the short montrals and Ahsoka's vocabulary). I liked the witch hunt and the dark Jedi duo (I kept thinking Shin was cosplaying the unblinking Wednesday, but then I decided it was a chibi-fem version of Darth Maul from The Hidden Menace. He also barely blinked and was constantly on vicious vibrations in the “kill-kill” mode).
There was something good in every episode. But... all this is somehow not what I wanted (and I'm tired of justifying the shoals of the series with “inflated” expectations for it, so fuck it!).
Let's forget about the high entry threshold. First of all, my complaint is about the pace. The series has been rocking for a long time and is not very interesting. After watching The Rebels, I began to understand better who all these people were and what they were doing, but the sluggish story of finding Erza and returning Thrawn didn't get me hooked.
Ahsoka walks most of the time with a lean face and a sedate step in the image of a wise mentor (tm). It's not a bad character change per se, but Ahsoka is just fucking boring. I can't believe that a Stud has turned into just another nerd who preaches Jedi truths. She was so full of her knowledge that she lost absolutely all the iconic character traits.
Sabine is something like a teenager in the bad sense of the word. That she and Erza flew past me. I understand that Erza comes with Thrawn, but what is the value of his character?
As a bonus, I have questions for the fencing choreographer. Almost all action scenes are built for realism with its inherent careful circling around the enemy, although they seemed to promise dynamic fights in the style of sequels. Anakin's appearance only highlights the difference in the smoothness of his movements and the slowness of everyone else. I watched “Van Pease” at the same time and wondered how they managed to convey the swashbuckling spirit of anime battles without getting into outright grunge. I wish I'd seen that in Ahsoka.
How promising everything was at the beginning, and where did it go in the end... Thrawn's brilliant decisions to send a flying group to 2.5 Jedi twice to give the command to return back to eventually meet the Jedi with infantry. Zombie stormtroopers turn out to be more dangerous than the living. The witch, who has never held a weapon in her hands, gives wholeheartedly to the Jedi master, who has gone through the entire Clone Wars and the fight against the empire. And what happened at the very end? Why get out of the ship and go to the turtle camp on wolf-horses if the ship was following you anyway? For a beautiful shot? Gorgeous, of course, but pointless. Ezra also comes out of the spaceship in full uniform and without even removing his helmet. A genius, no doubt. Well, what kind of nonsense is this...
@Garet: Well, I'm telling you not only my own opinion, but also the general opinion. Bobba Fett's book was saved only by the appearance of mando with Grog, and Obi Wan is worse than Ahsoka.
I don't mention cartoons. Because the Clone Wars and the Rebels (where Ezra and the rest of Ahsoka appear) are certainly cool.
@oleg2101: Lousy acting, tedious narration, cardboard and uninteresting characters, as well as poor choreography, graphene and plot.
The fact that the rest of the crafts are worse or slightly better does not change the fact that the universe is being degraded and turned into a soulless conveyor belt by a rat, which means it will not get better, it will only get worse.
For me, this scam has finally killed all interest in new crafts on ZV.
I've been watching Clone Wars for a long time and it seemed to me that the trinity from Mortis is the embodiment of the Force itself. and I didn't like it. Force is the energy that permeates the universe, and it doesn't need to be personified. but it turns out that father, son and daughter are the Celestials - an ancient race of the most powerful adepts of Power. And Beilan found the mother of this family, Abelot. as someone wrote here.
imho, Abelot may need a vessel body and it will be a blonde. It's a pity, of course, not to see the development of Shin's personality. But most likely, the Ukrainian Shinka will follow the banal arch of redemption. The teacher left her. she hesitated at Ahsoka's suggestion and did not join Thrawn. Well, or Felony will give up on her and Shin will stay there.
Do you have a daughter? "What do you have? Camera. I thought it was an owl."
The last three episodes of the series were even less interesting, and that was due to the action and fast-paced events. The beginning, in my opinion, is very long, Sabina's actions are comparable to the behavior of a 5-year-old child, I understand that it is necessary to somehow unwind the plot with the loss of the "ball", but it is so stupid to expose one of the main characters right at the beginning of the series... Oh in vain. And anyway, Sabina doesn't catch on to anything, you look at her like a minor character who was forced to come to the fore. Ahsoka, well, I'm not an ardent fan of the Star Wars universe, however, as I understand it, she is one of the most interesting characters in this world, even based on the hype during filming. The fans were very happy that the whole series would be filmed about her, which means that the heroine is clearly not a bad guy. But in the end, I personally saw a woman with unclear motives and beliefs, and I didn't see anything outstanding in the Jedi force. In my opinion, Ahsoka was not revealed, most of it was due to the character's empty chatter and lethargy. Although there are no complaints about the actress, but there are complaints about the screenwriters who prescribed her. What were Grandpa and his blond stepdaughter for? In my opinion, these guys are also cardboard, like a decoration. If you have cast a fishing rod for the development of events of the Great Forces, the power that the peasant was talking about, then at least explain it clearly, but in the end, "zilch" and that's it. As for the plot of the series, I still didn't understand what it was all about. The ending came to the beginning with the substitution of characters and their habitat. There are a lot of questions that I'm unlikely to get answers to because there won't be a season 2. In general, the series will be on once, but the expectations from Ahsoka were much greater and more professional, without cardboard characters and formulaic actions...
@FreddyChannel202: in any case, the story is cut short and has not received a logical end. From the sources that I came across, it was said that most likely Ahsoka would appear in other projects of the "Universal", but I still hope for a full-fledged season 2.
@PlanePassenger: Видео вышло на 4 дня раньше новостей о том, что на второй сезон все же продлили. https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/ahsoka-season-2-development-star-wars-1235745085/
Why do almost the entire series of loading, if the two ships then docked anyway and they flew away together?
Why send stormtroopers, who seem to be worth their weight in gold, to kill Jedi when you can just fly away?
Why send stormtroopers to fight with their fists if you can just shoot the area from the air?
Why didn't Thrawn, if he wanted to get even with Ezra, do it sooner? Both Sabin and the grandfather and granddaughter found him one or two times without much effort.
If the emo student was initially skeptical about flying to a distant galaxy and clearly did not really want to fly there, then why did her grandfather need to take her with him? To leave her alone on a semi-deserted planet almost immediately?
A meeting of senators. One fucker is carrying outright game, all the others are sitting modestly with their eyes downcast. I'm sorry, what? Are you senators or furniture? If you don't agree, why can't you object and crush the number?
Why does no one hit anyone, even if they shoot at point-blank range, in the back, etc.?
Why didn't the super-gifted and all-powerful witches feel that a Jedi had jumped on the ship? And he flew by calmly, probably pissed off more people, stole the ship, and was gone.
An imperial ship is flying towards you. Of course, he is allowed to land without trying to find out what he is and where he is from. A dude in a stormtrooper suit comes out. The people greet him with bread and salt, saying, come on, daraga. SHTA?
The open ending is of course yes. The series is cool, but I'm always infuriated by cliffhangers, especially in such series in which one season of 8 episodes takes a year or two to shoot, and still half of the episodes will be fillers
Oh, Morgan, it's a pity, such potential was spent on some kind of moronic fight. It would have been better if she had gone to Bailon, whom she clearly liked, and the two of them would have found exactly what he was looking for and broken the wheel. It's a pity that the actor died, such a textured guy.
Ezra is so bad, it's scary. That's who the real zombie is, he has no personality at all, only a beautiful appearance and one smile for all occasions.
It's funny that the most interesting lines for me in the entire series are the Dathomir witches and father, son and daughter, and not the showdown between the Jedi and Thrawn.
Everyone is discussing Sabina's powers (how strange it is to entertain hopes and give her abilities), there is a deep-seated problem! Pressure from communities and the media about the fact that in the ZV universe, anyone can be a force user if they try hard (to train a lot)! Personally, I have a position that George Lucas and his screenwriters should not lose their way under the opinion of the "position of equality", and everything should remain the old-fashioned way, as intended!
@id503652248: we see all this Disney devilry precisely because George Lucas sold the film rights along with the studio and all the other giblets, he has had nothing to do with the film for a long time, except as the creator. Nevertheless, if anyone is his ideological successor, it's Dave Filoni, he did the Clone Wars with Lucas, and in general, the godfather of the entire animation movement of those times.
There was just one thing the whole series couldn't understand. Why was everyone fighting so hard against Thrawn, even the seemingly magical witches. He's super smart, but he's an ordinary guy, and they worship him like he's the new Emperor.
Zombies and an ode to feminism. Boring is mediocre and there is a lot of stupidity. The only bright spot is Anakin, how nice it is to see him, it's a pity not to make him a separate series.
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268Filming of the second season of the series is officially over #Ahsoka
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So in 2026 we will most likely see a new season.
I couldn't believe they'd take it off, though.
Although if Ani's ghost was there all this time, maybe he threw a sword. Yoda also showed in episode 8 that the ghosts of the Force retain the ability to cast.
Nevertheless, we now suddenly have three different storylines for the future on this incomprehensible planet - Ahsoka/Sabin, Shin and Beylan. Only Beylan will no longer be there, alas, unless they decide to replace or digitize the actor.
Morgan was generally leaked, although the whole season there was an impression that she should become one of the main opponents in the future. But no, she just died, left to cover the departure of Thrawn and the others, even the legendary Finca Talzin did not help.
And Ezra's return seems to be the only one Chopper is happy, Hera didn't even hug him, what's up?
"But what a dramatic effect!" the screenwriter apparently thought.
Which one? I really want to ask him.
1. The original trilogy - Luke the Jedi tries his best not to kill anyone with a sword, feels sorry for his father and father Ray. It was noble of the POC, of course, but in fact he simply shifted the responsibility onto Vader. The main thing that everyone forgets is that the pilot—Hatch destroys the Death Star with a million people with his own hands. And no reflection at all. Yes, it is in the name of great goodness, but in itself it is not good, it is evil, violence and death. But Luke is practically the only Jedi there, maybe he just didn't fully understand the ideals of the Jedi and in fact they were sweethearts?
2. The prequel trilogy - Lucas himself deconstructs his own myth and ideal. We have a full-scale war here with a lot of casualties, the Jedi are chopping everyone into cabbage right and left. Armies of droids, and later clones, are just an impersonal metaphor for the enemy in the cheerful and colorful propaganda of a war without blood.
3. Clone Wars + Rebels. Filoni's brainchild, under the great initial supervision of Lucas. Filoni develops his ideas, bringing into the universe his philosophy from the "Legend of Aang", exposing the above-mentioned propaganda. And the excommunicated Ahsoka becomes the image of the Jedi crisis for Filoni, she sees their mistakes, hypocrisy and dogmas. The Jedi as a structure is the eternal “we wanted the best, but it turned out as always,” and the synthesis of black and white is the only hope for getting out of the circle of endless repetitions in a spiral. Disney has brought practically nothing new to the discourse here, repeating and digesting all of the above. Filoni is still special too))
And there is still no example of an invulnerable system.
And I did not say that there are no invulnerable systems. It just doesn't justify the Order, but only proves my original thesis: it was the best of the bad options, not the good one. And his main tragedy is that, having a monopoly on the bright side of Power, he was never able to become the ideal in which he blindly believed, and constantly reproduced the conditions for his own destruction. It's like communism that never came. There is a bright idea, a myth is being written for it, but it does not work out from time to time in the way that they use.
As they say, Lucas, we're all about Bali.Well, let's go in order.The series is miserable for as much as season 3 was miserable, Mando, Obiwan and Boba Fett's book, the characters except Ezra and with a stretch Thrawn do not look like their cartoon adaptations at all.As if the people who wrote their character and dialogues didn't watch the rebels and the Clone Wars at all.Yes, by the way, congratulations to everyone, the idiot on Filloni still made Sabine a forcuser, it turns out Mary sue >medichlorians (another canon is fucked up).In general, the impressions are negative.Regarding this series, I can praise the action, for the first time in the entire season, Ahsoka does not move like a piece of stone with an axe in her hands, perhaps the fight scene with Morgan is the best, if you do not take into account the appearance of Hayden (where dad showed who is actually a Jedi in this series).The Bailon line has not received a denouement, and given the circumstances of life, we will definitely not see development.Which is a pity, because Ray's character is the only one in this series who does not cause feelings of Spanish shame, the Tire line is also fucked up.It is not clear what the creators are counting on for season 2 of ahsoka, or for a film about the end of the mando era (which we will see in at least 3 years).But in general, as usual, there are more questions than answers, but no one will give answers in the near future.Well, according to tradition, God save Andor
I liked the series itself. I am satisfied. I don't see the point in trolling the script and blunders. It has even become familiar.
According to the script, a lot of things were discovered. And they will develop it.
Whatever it was, there is a position in LucasArts - the keeper of the integrity holocron. So at least they will concoct for 4 minutes.
Of course, there was not enough drama, although the soundtrack hinted at this.
Yes, it's not Rogue One and not Andor. And not even Obi Wan. But serious films will still be released.
In the meantime, I liked the idea of making a cinematic version of the cartoon.
In Mandalorian, Andor and the Book of BF, the universe was expanded. And then they returned to the Jedi again. And good. I missed you.
This is the way ✊
In the series "Ahsoka", where the bureaucracy of the republic is demonstrated, the batch on Mandalore and the death of Gideon, who is recognized by them as a "loner", are mentioned (and this is the finale of the third season of "Mandalorian" without options).
>> another "masterpiece" from Disney.
Oh, come on. It is simply impossible to shoot worse than the first 6 Lucas films.
and Sabine, without medichlorians, pumped the Power to the master level
, damn you Disney
Well, as for the Master, I disagree a little, her fencing is crooked even against zombie storm fighters, she drove her like an ace xD hot water bottle all season (although she herself is only a student of Beylan). Well, 2 pushes and the attraction of the blade, hardly pulls on the qualification of a master.
As I remember from old movies, a padawan to become a knight had to defeat an enemy with a blade (kill). Obi earned the rank by killing ( as he and the council then thought ) Darth Maul. So Saba is still a beginner))
And if I'm not mistaken, the history of the universe knows several Mandalorians sensitive to the force. Although the mandalore from her in the series came out a comical parody of a warrior.
Oh well.
It's certainly better than Obi-Wan.
Just a quick retelling: Ahsoka and Sabin go in search of Thrawn, find him and Ezra, but he escapes. There's also a grandfather and a granddaughter who don't know why they were there.
2 lines for 6 episodes of 45 minutes each
But you just had to do 3 sentries and then it would have looked more lively.
Thrawn is a pot-bellied man, and it seems that he only likes to talk a lot.
And then he'll die like Gideon. That is, stupidly.
Ahsoka, the whole series is just "🙂" and that's it. No disclosures, nothing
Alo, it was only for the sake of Winstead's ass that I kept watching.
And this ship is a Jedi ship, and its altitude. Only in the last episode, the same ship successfully dodged at least three fighters throughout the series.
And by the way, here's the scene of the Stormtrooper massacre, have you ever thought that even Dave, let alone the Jedi films, had never faced such a crowd before? They are not Neo, they have limitations on control and everything else. Every time in such a situation, they either ran away or surrendered, or a piano fell on the stormtroopers from the bushes, but there has never been such a cheerful passage.
There is also Chinese dancing with a witch who suddenly learned how to use a ball and face one of the best living swordsmen in the galaxy on equal terms. And two deserters who are more effective than two platoons of stormtroopers.
The witch duels with Ahsoka again, while the stormtroopers stand around and watch. They're probably sick.
The Jedi stormtroopers are not so much detaining as pushing them up. This is the quintessence of Thrawn's skill. The skill of playing along with the scriptwriters. Although shooting your fortress instead of the enemy's ship is also not bad. Then this pussy, who said "No negotiations" ten minutes ago, starts negotiations. Here I wanted to finish watching, but curiosity won out.
In general, I don't like it somehow. The second season is please without me.
And yes, here it is most acutely felt that Dave is playing out the Rebels, well, playing out and playing out, why not? But why was it called Ahsoka?
And it's clear that at the time of filming it was still unclear, but at the installation they already knew that Beilin would not be there any more. Was it difficult for him to edit a normal ending?
Well, at least the birds came at the end. At least one joy.
So this is not laziness, this is editing. Many things indicate that they were mounted through tears and cut five times. There are vagueness, skipping some scenes and stretching others, and a clear division into sequels that do not flow from each other, but simply line up in a row. Well, in short, the obvious suffering of the editor. Which almost always lead to such nonsense - first the ring descends into the atmosphere (this is generally a separate pain, for some reason, before the Disney trilogy, I was sure that large ships would not enter the atmosphere in the future, it ruins diving much more than these sounds of yours in space and other fifth-grade experts), and then the ring it rises back into orbit with the destroyer and only then departs.
And well, I forgot to praise you separately, if there was anything good in this series, it was the dialogue between Ezra and Hu Yang (although the idea of assembling a lightsaber for a time, like your Kalashnikov, is also such a thing). They're both great guys. It's just strange that they call Duma Canon.
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She showed perfectly well that superiority in firepower is good for even full-fledged knights.
I> here she is
You're going to score a dozen of these scenes.
say wut?
The Arena of Genesis, if anything, is not an option at all, because... Well, I'm too lazy. The obvious needs to be explained to you, right?
It's obvious that you made a mistake without thinking. Again. Am I right? Don't answer, I know kekw is right.
>When they switched to his personality, he indignantly demanded not to get personal.
You're going to succeed.
Dancing with a witch is a joke, of course, it's all about becoming a Jedi who gets their hands on an artifact weapon or a lightsaber.
And the stormtroopers generally operated in their usual range of stupidity)
With Baylon, there is a hint of a sequel - Statues of the Gods of Mortis
Hey, you've already sold the livers, I remember you definitely ate them. You understand that it's not your fault, but you already owe us a yard of lawsuits, cookies are expensive these days, but if you hire ten co-sponsors, then you owe us ten times less. Good luck!
Well, everyone is used to the armor of the ZV characters, but it causes direct irritation, especially when Ahsoka and the team broke through to the ship.
Anyway, if Ahsoka hadn't found the sphere, it wouldn't have happened, but the gun should have gone off. Mickey Mouse needs money.
Only the series probably shouldn't be called Ahsoka anymore, but something else.
Or this one should have been called something else and just be a continuation of the rebels.
In short, there are questions..I wouldn't be surprised if they don't extend it.
I liked the choreography, we saved up furioka for the last episode. Bailan seems to be waiting for a recast.
In general, the events can be described in several sentences. But to heat up the season as much as the figures above do is simply ridiculous) This is an ordinary piece of gum that adds several important events/characters to the further narrative of the development of the universe, what else did you expect from the series on streaming, lol) We looked at the freebie and received constructive and not-so-constructive criticism from constructive and not-so critics. If you're so upset and angry about TV shows, maybe you shouldn't spend more time on them?)
The fanservice here is a five, and everything else, with rare exceptions like Bailan and droid, is a weak three, sliding into a two. There is no normal plot, no character development, no dialogues... Sorry.
So far, the reference model from the TV series universe is Andor. Ahsoka's not bad, but she's learned a lot about the plot and drama.…
Of course, Ahsoka herself was particularly distinguished, the actress diligently plays the role of "oh, well, it's so hard to explain my motivation" to literally any question. There's not much of her in the Mandalorian, so she didn't piss me off, there's a lot of her here, and it's annoying. However, cardboard and single-celled characters are the norm for animals, but even here they have gone a bit overboard. The only one who turned out well was the voice of the actor who played Thrawn, that's just very good.
To people who would advise, in order to be filled with the plot and characters, to watch all the cartoon episodes, read all the books and scroll through all the comics, I can only suggest taking a look at Netflix's Van Pease film adaptation, where I didn't have to read 1,090 manga chapters and watch 1,080 anime episodes to enjoy it.
I'll add what I wrote for the last episode - the running time of about 320 minutes is only 50 minutes shorter than the running time of the original trilogy of 370 minutes, which already says a lot about the talent of the creators.
I think it's about the "talents" of the writers of Ahsoka.
It is also possible that Filoni wants to shove his beloved brainchild into the original canon by any means possible, but since there is no special talent and the character of children's cartoons looks like cardboard in person, it turned out what happened.
Grand Admiral Thrawn - "Withdraw the troops and ships, we have delayed Ahsoka for a sufficient time"
At the beginning of this episode:
Grand Admiral Thrawn - "Send two Tie Fighters after the Jedi"
Well, you can see the genius of command right away.
I wish we could open one last one. If there are kyber crystals, it means a new Death Star - it could pay off the whole season.
Zombies, dark stormtroopers, simple stormtroopers and their captain - we are waiting for you in collectible lego sets, then they will cost money, just like the Inquisitors and Thrawn now.
Bail, as a dark Jedi with his, alas, unfinished storyline, is also charming.
Ezra and Hyoyang, thank you for not taking them. The type of actor Ezra does not repel, such a kind person. And the droid is just a sweetheart.
AND THAT'S IT!
The rest is all lost, Ahsoka, who somehow doesn't catch on; the great Thrawn, who doesn't cause trepidation and anticipation of something cool, as it was in the cartoon; Chopper, who didn't even hit anyone; And other victims of the incompetent screenwriter...
Ahsoka waves her sabers like lamps and seems afraid to break them, Bailan wields a lightsaber like a cast-iron two-handed sword. What Sabine did in the final fight is better not to show anyone, I laughed at how ridiculously the stormtroopers move in order to substitute for the skill of the actress)
Although there really aren't enough comedies right now.
ps. and it's a pity that we won't see him in the second season, since the actor died in May of this year.
For example, why didn't Shin return to the cruiser, if the Jedi had time, then she certainly should have - she left earlier. And what did she do with a sword at the end in front of the bandits? Judging by the expression on his face, suicide through a fight with a superior opponent? Otherwise, why draw a sword? Although in theory she could chop them up, but why? Did you decide to stay and become the leader, out of grief that you lost the master earlier than you thought? In general, it's a lot of questions.
Beylan's line is intriguing - what was he looking for there. Ahsoka will probably find it, too, since she's where she belongs. It's just not clear how they'll get out without an actor.
Sabine was infuriating the whole way - how a 13-year-old teenager behaved, but it seems like they have a programmatic disease of the genre in order to catch a child of the appropriate age. I even feel a little sorry for Morgan - she was so stupidly leaked, because she went such a long way! And she was sacrificed as cannon fodder...
And so, it seems, the second season will be. We are waiting, sir.
and so, yes, wait for the second season, as it will be a huge stepping stone to the next movie)))
And in general, why did she go through the whole series with the same facial expression? Is that how she thinks Jedi behave? Well, as if Anakin, Obi-Wan, and damn, even Yoda allowed themselves emotions. Why is Ahsoka so mysterious all over herself?
I won't talk about the stupidity of Sabine, the stupidity of the plot, nightmarish action movies, they wrote everything from above. Stupidly merged the beautiful Elsbeth. Shin walked around with bulging eyes all the time, causing very funny associations. And yes, Bailon looked really good, but only against the background of all the others, so he is also boring and his fights also did not pull at all (okay: in principle, only Anakin and Elsbeth pulled).
In general, Filoni-versa's finest hour was the finale of the second season of the Mandalorian. Everything after that just slides down and down. (Andor is a separate category, an exception and a masterpiece).
I really love Star Wars, and after the first two seasons of Mando, there were such high hopes for the continuation of the universe, I believed that Filoni would treat this case with love for ZV. Unfortunately, the love of money has won. That 's why it 's insanely insulting now :(
This is so that you can imagine that to someone everything seems quite homogeneous and unassuming at the root. Commercial candy, no more.
Imho, the "spirit" is perfectly conveyed in the Mandalorian, in the Book, too, in principle, but to a lesser extent. Ahsoka and Obi-Wan are pure fanservice, and poorly written fanservice at that. I don't think the world would have lost much if they hadn't been taken down.
However, I enjoyed the sword fight with Morgan, the fight was much more active and dynamic than the others. But even here there are questions - what kind of circle of honor was organized by the stormtroopers, why such nobility? In short, it's kind of average, Disney would like to take a break and complete all these series with the promised full meter, and that's enough.
On the third day, Eagle Eye noticed that one wall of the barn was missing (c)
I watched the season in one go.
It's interesting to see the characters I once watched in animation.
Even at that moment, when I was watching the Rebels, did I think that I would ever see their movie versions? This is a very interesting move)
It's a good ending, I think that after many years, in the second season, Ezra will return for them,
and Sabin will already be a trained Jedi.
Everything else is very average..
I foresee fierce burning of the fifth points of the local fanatics, who diligently hated every episode here, looking for any little thing so that they could express their dissatisfaction. But everything has been clear with them for a long time, there is no point in paying attention to them at all. It's always going to be wrong and wrong. That's the way. 🤗
Again, I'm jealous, it's cool that at least someone liked it.
And what exactly did you like?
1. The general atmosphere.
2. Well-chosen cast
3. Great music and picture
4. Good space fighting and sword fighting
5. A separate point, of course, is the appearance of Anakin and the flashbacks from Clone Trooper.
🤗🤗🤗
And secondly, I didn't even recognize that the droid had worked.
As for the ending, it doesn't contain any ellipsis, intrigue, hints at a possible sequel, it doesn't entice you to look further, It's just a stump. This also applies to Thrawn's line with Ezra and Balan's line. Only Ahsoka's character seems to be in his place - like everything is clear, we are resting here until they come to pick us up.
Then the question arises - why do the 2nd season if Ahsoka is in her place and all subsequent events will obviously be related to Ezra and Thrawn?
I'll go further - why then the 2nd season of Ahsoka, if her Persian is practically not there?(unless, of course, she and the turtles build an intergalactic accelerator))
Even further, why was this series called Ahsoka? They could have just removed the continuation of the Rebels)
In general, I was glad to see old acquaintances, but the way the writers ended the series is more like its finale, then I'll understand everything.
I hope we'll find out soon. I'm betting that the continuation of the Insurgency will be announced.
bggg, Google foreigners and gentiles during the time of the Russian Empire and how often they were subjected to pogroms.
the Great Russians – they received the least benefits from the Empire and paid the most for its existence with their own lives. The life expectancy of Russian men in 1897 was lower than that of Neanderthals (33-35 years).
That wasn't very clever, was it?
There were few pogroms. The Russians are too kind. We will not stop saying thank you to Grandpa Lenin!
You've either been banned from Google, or you can't read Russian letters, which is pretty funny in the context of a Hussite Nazi tearing his shirt. :3
In general, the characters remained mostly undisclosed, periodically only the actions raised questions.
It is very doubtful and everything has ended (we are where we should be! - Okay😂)
In general, Sabine was annoyed by the whole series, not having the strength at one point, 20 minutes before the end of the season, she began to use it to the fullest. Luke had spent weeks on Dagobah, and it was with great difficulty that he pulled the ship out of the cracks. In just 10 minutes, she, at will, having no skills and standing "first from the end", showed such power abilities that even Luke did not dream of in his first months of training ...
In general, I was rooting for the empire the whole series, which is extremely strange...
Ray Stevenson certainly won back every penny of his salary! No one has ever played a villain so harshly and fatherly. It's a pity that he was given so little screen time. The story of Balon in his performance would be a gorgeous continuation of the star saga.
He hadn't pulled it out, he hadn't learned zen yet, and he was chasing to do everything faster, so he could confidently lift only stones off the ground, and as a result, he blew out the bat, lost his arm, and almost stumbled, condemning all of Jedi to extinction. And the ship pulled out Yoda, showing that weight doesn't matter.
And this is the new canon, any random scourge can now wield power at the master level with years of training, because he is a strong and independent character.
Immediately, Sabine is able to do it from the very beginning due to the level of many years of training, but she doesn't know how, she forgot, but then along the way she remembers again and starts doing witchcraft with her hands and waving a flashlight. What did the author mean by that, be on style and everything will work out by itself?
Ahsoka herself is in the series Ahsoka series on 3. She is silent almost all the time, as opposed to VK, where she did not shut up)) I understand age, it's a long way, but why is it so depressing?
We all loved Ahsoka not only for her looks and lekka, but also for her character. Even in the Mandalorian, she performed more brightly.
Thrawn. Well....Bad. You can't get into a character with blue makeup and a good actor, even if he talks slowly and calmly. Thrawn had a sense of power, spirit, some kind of mystery and a little bit of horror. In the Rebels.
There's no sign of that here. And don't tell me about the long years of exile.
As I have already written, Sabine was greatly changed for this plot, removing Mandalocia, skills, character, and making her a stupid girl with a big dream. It was a good thing she hadn't left with Ezra, even though it was clear that she wouldn't leave Ahsoka a second time.
Ezra is a complete miskast to me. A sweet smile, kind eyes, and that's it. From what I remember of Ezra (and am even reviewing some Rebel episodes now), nothing.
Bailon. Complete misunderstanding. A bunch of solemn silent pathos and two monologues with longing for the past. And he left. And cheto is looking. And he won't find it. because the actor is no more. He was a handsome man. But the character is completely past me and about nothing.
Tires. There's nothing to talk about at all.
The best of the season are Hyuyang (or whatever it's actually pronounced, but localizers still giggle at Japanese names), and nomadic crabs.
Another win-win cuteness.
And these zombies are still standing around and watching. Why did they even add them and drag them to the fight scene if they hadn't thought out their behavior in any way?
Hope for season 2, if there is one - after all, there was a reason why her bird flew to her at the end.
P.S. the duel with Morgan is normal, like herself, it's even a pity that she died, besides, right after she was "pumped"
But Ahsoka's problem is that this series is completely based on 2 animated series that not everyone has watched (most people who watch live-action series skip animation) and exists solely to introduce a new antagonist to the Mandalorian to replace Gideon.
As for the characters, in general, everyone played quite well, except Ahsoka. I don't know what the main problem of the character is. Maybe it was the excessive makeup that hindered Rosario Dawson's facial expressions or the generally lean character of the character, but the series was a little better in any scene where the main character of the series was not present.
Well, and in general, there are questions about the quality of the series. There are no arches of the characters, the actors have no emotions. The most charismatic is Ahsoka's droid... Who only has eyes that can express something. A lot of things are unclear if you haven't watched cartoons before. Sword fighting is still shit. If they don't continue, I won't be upset.
There are no words, every ridiculous second of the series has already been described above.
The only question remains, why did I watch 8 episodes of this? What was, what wasn't
It's time to quit TV series, just like movies.
Pros - I really liked the visual range - the graphics are nice, the costumes, the framing. The music is good, the makeup (talk thrawn and Hera somehow didn't come out very well, as for me)
There are more cons, a lot more - the plot, the acting, the action movie, my God, did the choreography of the fights really have to be changed in a movie about Jedi warriors???! Plot presentation, scenario moves, dialogues - the weakest thing, what the series, the movie, whatever, should be based on, they didn't work out at all...
The result: watching the background while you're working will go, you won't remember the series in a year
But seriously, the series is passable, although the show does not clarify anything to a person who has not watched cartoons. It's confusing. Well, that's it... We are waiting for the second season.
I was glad to see Ahsoka again.
There was something good in every episode. But... all this is somehow not what I wanted (and I'm tired of justifying the shoals of the series with “inflated” expectations for it, so fuck it!).
Let's forget about the high entry threshold. First of all, my complaint is about the pace. The series has been rocking for a long time and is not very interesting. After watching The Rebels, I began to understand better who all these people were and what they were doing, but the sluggish story of finding Erza and returning Thrawn didn't get me hooked.
Ahsoka walks most of the time with a lean face and a sedate step in the image of a wise mentor (tm). It's not a bad character change per se, but Ahsoka is just fucking boring. I can't believe that a Stud has turned into just another nerd who preaches Jedi truths. She was so full of her knowledge that she lost absolutely all the iconic character traits.
Sabine is something like a teenager in the bad sense of the word. That she and Erza flew past me. I understand that Erza comes with Thrawn, but what is the value of his character?
As a bonus, I have questions for the fencing choreographer. Almost all action scenes are built for realism with its inherent careful circling around the enemy, although they seemed to promise dynamic fights in the style of sequels. Anakin's appearance only highlights the difference in the smoothness of his movements and the slowness of everyone else. I watched “Van Pease” at the same time and wondered how they managed to convey the swashbuckling spirit of anime battles without getting into outright grunge. I wish I'd seen that in Ahsoka.
Thrawn's brilliant decisions to send a flying group to 2.5 Jedi twice to give the command to return back to eventually meet the Jedi with infantry.
Zombie stormtroopers turn out to be more dangerous than the living.
The witch, who has never held a weapon in her hands, gives wholeheartedly to the Jedi master, who has gone through the entire Clone Wars and the fight against the empire.
And what happened at the very end? Why get out of the ship and go to the turtle camp on wolf-horses if the ship was following you anyway? For a beautiful shot? Gorgeous, of course, but pointless.
Ezra also comes out of the spaceship in full uniform and without even removing his helmet. A genius, no doubt.
Well, what kind of nonsense is this...
I don't mention cartoons. Because the Clone Wars and the Rebels (where Ezra and the rest of Ahsoka appear) are certainly cool.
The fact that the rest of the crafts are worse or slightly better does not change the fact that the universe is being degraded and turned into a soulless conveyor belt by a rat, which means it will not get better, it will only get worse.
For me, this scam has finally killed all interest in new crafts on ZV.
He chased after Thrawn. Stuck on a planet near Thrawn. I ended up on a ship with Thrawn. He ran home, further away from Thrawn.
Статус "в разработке"
And Beilan found the mother of this family, Abelot. as someone wrote here.
imho, Abelot may need a vessel body and it will be a blonde. It's a pity, of course, not to see the development of Shin's personality. But most likely, the Ukrainian Shinka will follow the banal arch of redemption. The teacher left her. she hesitated at Ahsoka's suggestion and did not join Thrawn. Well, or Felony will give up on her and Shin will stay there.
Do you have a daughter? "What do you have? Camera. I thought it was an owl."
Ahsoka, well, I'm not an ardent fan of the Star Wars universe, however, as I understand it, she is one of the most interesting characters in this world, even based on the hype during filming. The fans were very happy that the whole series would be filmed about her, which means that the heroine is clearly not a bad guy. But in the end, I personally saw a woman with unclear motives and beliefs, and I didn't see anything outstanding in the Jedi force. In my opinion, Ahsoka was not revealed, most of it was due to the character's empty chatter and lethargy. Although there are no complaints about the actress, but there are complaints about the screenwriters who prescribed her.
What were Grandpa and his blond stepdaughter for? In my opinion, these guys are also cardboard, like a decoration. If you have cast a fishing rod for the development of events of the Great Forces, the power that the peasant was talking about, then at least explain it clearly, but in the end, "zilch" and that's it.
As for the plot of the series, I still didn't understand what it was all about. The ending came to the beginning with the substitution of characters and their habitat. There are a lot of questions that I'm unlikely to get answers to because there won't be a season 2.
In general, the series will be on once, but the expectations from Ahsoka were much greater and more professional, without cardboard characters and formulaic actions...
https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/ahsoka-season-2-development-star-wars-1235745085/
Why send stormtroopers, who seem to be worth their weight in gold, to kill Jedi when you can just fly away?
Why send stormtroopers to fight with their fists if you can just shoot the area from the air?
Why didn't Thrawn, if he wanted to get even with Ezra, do it sooner? Both Sabin and the grandfather and granddaughter found him one or two times without much effort.
If the emo student was initially skeptical about flying to a distant galaxy and clearly did not really want to fly there, then why did her grandfather need to take her with him? To leave her alone on a semi-deserted planet almost immediately?
A meeting of senators. One fucker is carrying outright game, all the others are sitting modestly with their eyes downcast. I'm sorry, what? Are you senators or furniture? If you don't agree, why can't you object and crush the number?
Why does no one hit anyone, even if they shoot at point-blank range, in the back, etc.?
Why didn't the super-gifted and all-powerful witches feel that a Jedi had jumped on the ship? And he flew by calmly, probably pissed off more people, stole the ship, and was gone.
An imperial ship is flying towards you. Of course, he is allowed to land without trying to find out what he is and where he is from. A dude in a stormtrooper suit comes out. The people greet him with bread and salt, saying, come on, daraga. SHTA?
View, mark as viewed and forget.
It would have been better if she had gone to Bailon, whom she clearly liked, and the two of them would have found exactly what he was looking for and broken the wheel.
It's a pity that the actor died, such a textured guy.
Ezra is so bad, it's scary. That's who the real zombie is, he has no personality at all, only a beautiful appearance and one smile for all occasions.
Why was everyone fighting so hard against Thrawn, even the seemingly magical witches.
He's super smart, but he's an ordinary guy, and they worship him like he's the new Emperor.