s03e08 — Серия 24

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Duration: 53 min.
Released: 22.02.202422.02.2024 15:00
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s03e08
s02e06 - Серия 16
s03e01 - Серия 17
s03e02 - Серия 18
s03e03 - Серия 19
s03e04 - Серия 20
s03e05 - Серия 21
s03e06 - Серия 22
s03e07 - Серия 23
s03e08 - Серия 24

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webboss
webboss
22 Feb 01:18 # Show original
Finally a pleasant ending
CURI0SITY
CURI0SITY
PRO
22 Feb 04:16 # Show original
I'm kind of confused about these Wolf women. How many of them were there? And everyone is so in love with him. And how did they explain to themselves that there were others in the house besides them all the time?
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
23 Feb 00:33 # Show original
@CURI0SITY: sectarian thinking, apparently) not for the first time)
tanyamistery
tanyamistery
22 Feb 04:59 # Show original
I was disappointed hard(
why were there so many lines...
if in the end everything was reduced to everything that turned out.
Mother suddenly remembered EVERYTHING! I recognized my son..
the line with acid and this girl from the UK... everything ended up just a stupid meeting?
the killer was immediately clear... the wolf was someone at all??...
why did he need Pavlov??
he didn't seem to work as a private expert.. I was in the care of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
, and they certainly don't earn millions there.. I didn't have a private practice either...
but why was this blogger, can someone explain?
the dog's dream again)) It 's sad 🌚
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
23 Feb 00:35 # Show original
@tanyamistery: Pavlov's dog's dream))))
nataliscaptain
nataliscaptain
09 Apr 23:31 # Show original
@-TraumfraU-: Great joke 😂😂😂
leha17124
leha17124
23 Feb 18:06 # Show original
So also the beginning of the series - a particularly innocent girl douses herself with gasoline and dies terribly, babbling something incoherent to the watchman, instead of just contacting law enforcement agencies. In general, exactly the same dumb hat as the previous season. And characteristically, it turns out only in the last episode. And, this Volkov - "I didn't kill anyone," although they just showed how a man who didn't kill anyone in passing easily killed and stripped the driver of the car that picked him up. In short, the creators of this craft do not care deeply about logic and common sense.
WFurman
WFurman
06 Mar 07:20 # Show original
@leha17124: Where have you seen logic in your life?! Pure animal instincts and desires!
vasha_gadost
vasha_gadost
22 Feb 10:24 # Show original
I will support the comments above, everything ended very strangely. She came to him, and what? The wolf gathered this fan club for himself and courted everyone, as if it was not clear that sooner or later someone would start to be jealous, then what was it for? at the beginning of the insert with the boy and the mother, who was it anyway? A wolf? Andrew? Why did the Wolf follow Pavlov in the end? did you want to use it to sort out the conflict with your women, or what? the line with the blogger also did not lead anywhere, the fact that she ruined Pavlov's reputation did not really affect anything in the end, he worked and works until the end of the case🤷🏻♀️
Gordey
Gordey
23 Feb 09:40 # Show original
@vasha_gadost: I'll try to answer how I understood it.
The wolf stupidly earned money on the wallpaper, and now Pavlov took the basis of his behavior, which he told Ksyusha, which is why she demanded it.
The boy is a Wolf, yes. And he decided to prove that he was not worthless, not a half-wit.
The line with the blogger was for timing, I think
But what the judge was able to put pressure on the general, it's interesting here
vasha_gadost
vasha_gadost
23 Feb 14:54 # Show original
and the fact that the investigator went to the man who poured acid on her?I honestly thought that such actions were committed for the sake of some kind of completion of the situation for myself (to plant, take revenge, kill, finally), but here it was like talking to a salesman in a store - "well, how are you? Has it healed? - Well, yes..She found doctors," and what did she understand for herself from this? I've been turning this scene over in my head, but I still haven't been able to explain it.
de_javu
de_javu
23 Feb 22:38 # Show original
@vasha_gadost: I realized that his life did not work out and he is clearly ill with something, since he is constantly coughing and he will probably recline soon. And that he is not scary at all, and you should not be afraid of him, Pavlov shouted his name in the car and said just that no one appeared and was stupidly afraid of the past, but you need to look into his eyes. That's how I understood it.
malitski
malitski
24 Feb 05:36 # Show original
@Gordey: Charm :)
Gordey
Gordey
24 Feb 06:19 #
@malitski: вы правы :))
alavitka
alavitka
25 Feb 00:16 # Show original
@vasha_gadost: This is called "exposure" in cognitive behavioral therapy. The first stage of solving the problem. Pravlov fumbles, he ordered, she decided to obey, and it seems that in the end she realized that she had been shaking with fear for so long in vain. She was afraid that he would come for her, and he has been living his worthless life with some woman and smoky lungs for a long time (perhaps tuberculosis even after prison). It's obvious that it's a schmuck. Especially for her now. And it became ridiculous and insulting to be afraid of this world Cup. In general, the first step was enough.
nonlondon
nonlondon
22 Mar 07:59 # Show original
@vasha_gadost: here, in addition to everything else that was written above, there was also a feint that she had been shaking from him for so many years, and he just didn't give a shit about her all the time, even when she arrived. And the fact that he didn't apologize, but just found a doctor? It's also indicative that he doesn't even feel guilty.
winnie69
winnie69
22 Feb 11:45 # Show original
A good ending, all lines were closed. All these lines were needed to show the problems of the characters, their feelings, fears, etc. This is a psychological series, the causal relationship is well shown, it needs to be watched thoughtfully and paying attention to the details, the actors' play (and they play great) and the words they utter.
Responding to the comments above, I would like to say:
1. The boy at the beginning of the series is a Wolf, his mother even called him that.
2. The wolf followed Pavlov to study him, he also said that Pavlov turns people around as he wants and earns money from it. (It was in the last episode, when we were shown him and Tanya, they were sitting in the car).
As we see at the beginning of the series, the Wolf's mother told him that he was a half-wit like his father and would die under the fence, he also wanted to become as manipulative and omnipotent as Pavlov (in his eyes) and prove to his mother that he mattered.
3. Memory may return when severe stress or significant events are repeated. The mother saw a boy strangling a girl, and Andrei strangled his sick sister as a child. This was the trigger and some part of the memory returned. And in the end, apparently, not a single day has passed, mom is in the hospital and treatment, or rather supportive therapy, is doing its job.
4. To say that the acid line ended with a dumb encounter... for her, this encounter was like death.
This is the strongest fear, the actress played great, I had only seen her in the Ivanko series before and such two different roles that I applaud standing up!
Again, we are shown the problems of the hero, his pain, his growth above himself and not all people, this is how they can meet their demon.
5. Pavlov worked for the Ministry of Internal Affairs and private practice.
6. The blogger was like a great example of the current realities of what it really looks like. All these perfect people on social media, with perfect families and perfect faces, are actually the same as the rest of us. It's a job and it's hard (emotionally). It is difficult for the psyche to lie to everyone and especially to yourself, it is difficult to live a life not your own based on likes, subscriptions and coverage.
vayana
vayana
23 Feb 01:01 # Show original
@winnie69: memory cannot, dementia can be suspended, but it cannot be reversed, and the mother was already sufficiently neglected. At the same time, it feels like he let her go on purpose in anticipation of stress. so that it would work, and she would come to life and become a conscious adult again, able to make decisions, and just forget words. That is, the screenwriters wrote so beautifully.
This is a fairy tale, very false and harmful, which seems to me clear to anyone who has encountered such a thing in life.
de_javu
de_javu
23 Feb 22:42 # Show original
@vayana: Well, it's not true, memory can disappear and then come back. In the future, all this will progress, and memory returns will become rare and short-term. And he let her go so as not to drag her by force, but here she was under supervision and she liked it there, and yes, he probably hoped that as soon as his memory returned, then she would call him herself.
vayana
vayana
24 Feb 01:08 # Show original
@de_javu: a separate memory is returned, the capacity that she has already lost is not returned. She could hardly live alone anymore, but she lived, that's the way he let her go. I got into the family well, or I could have been under a dump truck.
And this is not treated by stress, willpower, etc. Pills too. You can only slow it down.
de_javu
de_javu
24 Feb 09:22 # Show original
@vayana: Did I say somewhere that it's treatable? I know perfectly well that it is not. And I understand about the dump truck, and I could also get lost and die, like my grandmother. I have also faced such a situation in my life. A comment on your answer that memory cannot return, but it can.
vayana
vayana
24 Feb 10:28 # Show original
@de_javu: well, I meant memory as a general coherence of thinking, which she suddenly began to show, so of course some moments (son-not son) are remembered and forgotten constantly.

I am very sorry for the situation with your grandmother.
alavitka
alavitka
25 Feb 00:22 # Show original
@vayana: Legal capacity does not disappear in the legal sense, it is deprived, for which someone must submit documents somewhere and go through the stages. And Pavlov fundamentally did not want to force his mother - he worked out not to meddle in someone else's life much better than anyone.
Gordey
Gordey
23 Feb 09:41 # Show original
@winnie69: yulin. Thank you, you have written it out more clearly, I should have read your comment first before replying
alavitka
alavitka
25 Feb 00:19 # Show original
@winnie69: I'm fiercely positive! And I had already forgotten about the story with my sister, this topic had been raised for a long time.
winnie69
winnie69
22 Feb 12:22 # Show original
As for the Wolf himself, it seems to me that he liked the very fact of manipulating people, he did not have any specific purpose, he bred these girls for money, played on their feelings, perhaps he did not think what to do with them (as it goes) and relied on Tanya to kill them herself out of jealousy, by manipulating competently. He needed the fact that he was a king and a god and did not die under the fence.
And the girls at the beginning were euphoric, they found the person who loves them, hears where they are important, all that they did not have at home and at first they did not pay attention to what was happening, and if they noticed, then most likely the denial defense mechanism was turned on to avoid cognitive dissonance. In some ways, the Stockholm syndrome.
aksimxx
aksimxx
22 Feb 12:40 # Show original
The love line with Starshenbaum at the end is generally strange and suddenly looks
Pasde
Pasde
23 Feb 17:36 # Show original
It just looks like shit from a shovel. For three seasons, she crawls after him like a snail with a wet stripe, kills herself for him, agrees to everything, he does not consider her a person. Masha # 2 was introduced, he coddled her, poked a new sled and sent her to the rapist. Why did he sleep with her? Why did she have all this romance in her eyes? No hint, and then Marina, sitting next to a maniac, as if she was drugged, and Pavlov suddenly realized that he loved her🫡
alavitka
alavitka
25 Feb 00:27 # Show original
@aksimxx: That's how I agree. The only thing that comforts in this regard is that from the sore (painful attachment to Andrew) she seems to have been cured in the end (two phrases - wondering why he called her and "you're an asshole"). Which, well, contradicts a little bit with the fact that in the final she stayed with him anyway. But not really. It's just that it so rarely happens in life that after you get sick, you build a normal relationship with the same person. Usually with someone else. Well, I see it as a kind of concession to the audience, who are so fond of Cinderella happy endings.
vlandus
vlandus
25 Feb 02:09 #
@aksimxx: Вероятно, это фансервис с хэппи эндом. Закрыли сериал.
gmbmnp
gmbmnp
22 Feb 13:01 # Show original
first. This is some kind of trash.

second. when people have to explain in the comments what's what and what the series finale meant, the series screwed up.

the third. when Marina said "you're an asshole," I really hoped that she would add "get out" and get rid of his influence. I was upset.

I can't help but note the advantages of the season, that it was shot superbly, that in some places it was really very interesting to watch. but filler storylines and illogical moments violently knocked out of the narrative and blurred the impression. hzhz.

The game is cool, that's it. the takeaways from the comment above about the fact that all lines are closed - there is a place to be, but these lines themselves are not attractive.
it would probably look great in the text version. a book. to make the characters more voluminous, the motives would be read much easier, as well as the morality. and then they throw it, and sort it out for yourself. cool 😵💫
winnie69
winnie69
22 Feb 13:47 # Show original
And what's wrong with sitting and thinking why was this, why that?! For me, it's much more interesting when, after and even while watching a movie or TV series, you turn on your head, and not just have everything chewed up and put on a silver platter.
the episode aired 22.02.2024
Fo_Ya
Fo_Ya
22 Feb 15:37 # Show original
The ending is trash)) For 2 seasons, Pavlov mocked Marina, showed how he gave a shit about her, and then once he realized that this was love. And she accepted it as if nothing had happened. It's kind of clownish. Another demonstration that a woman should tolerate an inadequate attitude towards herself and accept a man, because this is love 🤡
vk674790
vk674790
22 Feb 16:03 # Show original
@Fo_Ya: Anyway, she accepted him because she loves him.
alavitka
alavitka
25 Feb 00:25 #
@Fo_Ya: Он над ней не издевался. Он пытался ей помочь. Устроить экспозицию, довести до ручки, чтобы встрепенулось её чувство достоинства, а она сама пригибалась всё ниже и ниже (потому что зависимый тип личности). Чем вы вообще смотрите сериал?
WFurman
WFurman
06 Mar 07:34 #
@alavitka: Есть люди, которые слышат и видят только то, что им хочется! Не пытайтесь достучаться до логики, ее там небыло, нет и не будет!
veer
veer
22 Feb 19:06 # Show original
How unexpectedly, after three seasons and a string of women, Pavlov realized that he loved Marina🙄
Dazhur
Dazhur
22 Feb 21:21 # Show original
So why did the girl burn herself at the very beginning? It's better to go to jail for complicity than to die, isn't it?
CURI0SITY
CURI0SITY
PRO
22 Feb 21:57 # Show original
@Dazhur: because the screenwriter wanted to. Instead of going to the police and telling them everything, she comes to the cottage village and puzzles the guard at the barrier. Why was she sure that the guard would remember which kilometer of which highway to look for a corpse on? That he would remember Pavlov's last name? And why should Pavlov have stopped the Wolf at all, if the killer was his girlfriend, who should have been handed over to the police. Besides, it seems like she's pregnant, the instinct of self-preservation should have worked
Dazhur
Dazhur
22 Feb 22:16 # Show original
@CURI0SITY: well, it's bullshit, I felt like it wouldn't be explained in any way! I also watched this mess (season) one episode a week and then I couldn't understand at all what it was about, I even somehow reviewed the scenes of the investigation from the very beginning, so that at least I could figure out these girls. And the main character froze the whole season, fucked up her colleague for half a season and taught life, while she was on pills, she also works in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. What was this character for anyway? To walk around with a rotten face? She didn't even reveal anything. And the last scene with Marina was as sudden as snow in July. 😆
Babicheva_krd
Babicheva_krd
25 Feb 11:54 #
Она потеряла ребенка, вы внимательно смотрели?
alavitka
alavitka
25 Feb 00:28 #
@Dazhur: Ну у неё кукуха к тому времени уже явно свернулась набекрень.
WFurman
WFurman
06 Mar 07:35 #
@alavitka: Юношеский максимализм...
Chirkusha
Chirkusha
22 Feb 21:26 # Show original
And what was the point about the cross? I would understand about the restick😂
ДаФФка
ДаФФка
23 Feb 10:57 # Show original
@Chirkusha: Maybe it has something to do with the fact that she preached something Hindu? (I don't understand it)
De_retour
De_retour
24 Feb 00:30 # Show original
@Chirkusha: perhaps it meant that she became down-to-earth, so she asked to buy a cross, apparently her worldview changed after she was almost killed, but this is just a guess
reelsunny
reelsunny
22 Feb 22:33 # Show original
The places were interesting and intriguing, I wanted some kind of development about the Wolf, about the girls, about the tracker..
But in the end, it feels like Pavlov's story should have ended last season at his sister's grave.
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
23 Feb 00:34 # Show original
We drove off into the sunset, as in the ending of the "Method", lol))
MerryCherry
MerryCherry
PRO
23 Feb 00:46 # Show original
@-TraumfraU-: I came specifically to write this))))))) I kept waiting for them to fly into the sky somewhere there too))) I see that our filmmakers like to send somewhere by car into the sunset at the end of the year)))) Offhand with this ending: Method-2, Scythe, Possessed and now a Mediator)))))
MerryCherry
MerryCherry
PRO
23 Feb 00:49 # Show original
The first season was artificially divided into supposedly two seasons. For me, this season doesn't look like 3, but like 2. I hope there will be 8 more episodes like season 4, because I didn't like the ending at all. I agree with the commentators above: a bunch of storylines leading nowhere. I watched 7 episodes with great pleasure, and I spat all over 8 episodes. And at the end, his outburst of love for Marina.... breeeeeee...
loliya_loliya
loliya_loliya
23 Feb 01:12 # Show original
Please explain who understood why Tanya attacked the Wolf with a screwdriver when the investigator arrived at their house? I tried to turn the tables on the Wolf, but how?🤨🧐
likaeleva
likaeleva
24 Feb 05:28 #
Чтобы выдать себя за жертву, которая пытается спастись (он же тогда взял в заложники Лизу на глазах следачки)
Gordey
Gordey
23 Feb 09:42 # Show original
It's a bit corny, unfortunately.. Last seasons were more interesting
Pasde
Pasde
23 Feb 17:43 # Show original
Very sorry. The first part of the series was more epic. Somehow everything was smooth there, children, terrorist attacks, a sick aunt, etc. To that Mediator, 10 out of 10. It was finished. I sincerely believed that Pavlov, Masha and the orphan girl lived a happy family.
Why the sequel was filmed is unclear, it is unclear 😂
Why did the girl burn herself?
Pavlov's work was shown only with a bad blogger and in the artist's house. That's all.
The topic of bullying on the Internet was quickly hushed up, and was no longer raised.
Why sledachka was yelling at her fat colleague all the time is not clear, she was eating anyway. Where is the logic? Meaning? What is she eating, she's fat from it, but the taxi driver historian fell in love with her anyway?
Why was an artist and his whole family brought in?
Why did the "new Masha" climb on Pavlov, and then show him this? Is he so wow that everyone wants him?
A sudden love for Marina. 🤷‍♀️
Nonsense. It would be better not to film all this
Хатифнат
Хатифнат
23 Feb 19:11 # Show original
Marina and Pavlov's game of BDSMCHIK continues. Classically, they leave into the sunset) At the same time, let him buy her a cross and a collar. Well, very suddenly love appeared, very much. Or the point is that they went back to being manipulative and codependent when everyone around them seemed to be healed.
Respect for the final soundtrack)
alavitka
alavitka
25 Feb 00:31 #
@Хатифнат: Да вроде нам показали, что и они оба тоже исцелились (она от болезненной зависимости от него, а он от своего цинизма по поводу чувств). Всего одна сцена короткая конечно, но я так увидела (ключики были).
MsLavender
MsLavender
PRO
23 Feb 21:28 # Show original
I was upset that Marina and Andrey were brought together in the end. For both, the healthier option was to break up either permanently or on a friendly note, as a maximum.
But maybe the fact is that both were initially "crippled" ...
In general, it was a very pleasant season, I watched it with satisfaction.
de_javu
de_javu
23 Feb 22:50 # Show original
Pooh, pooh still flew))) Somehow, I was not at all confused by the fact of Pavlov's love for Marina, they are both codependent. If he knows and understands everything about others, it does not mean that he is healthy and adequate in his own life. He was used to her being around all the time and getting into his life, and in the situation with Volkov, he was afraid that he would lose her now, so he realized that he did not want this at all.
WFurman
WFurman
06 Mar 07:54 #
@de_javu: То, что она осталась с Павловым, тоже не удивило. Видел я такую "Марину" в жизни и, после этого, все эти глупости о логике, самоуважении, мужском эгоизне, тупых сценаристах такие забавненькие.
marusya212121
marusya212121
24 Feb 00:13 # Show original
Well, I don't know... why Pavlov was connected to Marina.. It's more like friendship was here. And in the end, there it is, it's debatable
juliawishes
juliawishes
24 Feb 13:04 #
Сезон понравился.
Не удивлена, что Павлов остался с Мариной.
Актёр, играющий Волка, очень красив.
Redbelka
Redbelka
24 Feb 16:59 #
Такое впечатление, что сериалу не хватило времени. Поэтому скомкали финал как могли.
a1389842
a1389842
24 Feb 22:13 #
Неплохой финал
stasonfcsm
stasonfcsm
25 Feb 02:44 #
С одной стороны всё слишком запутано и мы тут можем обсудить что же там к чему было, а с другой стороны хорошо, что сериал закончился и мы это больше обсуждать не будем. 7/10
Kalashnikoff
Kalashnikoff
28 Feb 04:45 #
Хороший сериал. Последний сезон пусть и не идеальный, но все равно посмотрел с удовольствием. Так же, из сериала ярко запомнил вступительный трек первых 2ух сезонов. В 3ем сезоне тоже приятная музыка, но в плейлист ко мне не переехала.
severefish
severefish
PRO
28 Feb 14:50 #
Надеюсь, 4 сезона не будет. 1 сезон и 3 по масштабности очень разные. 3 сезон - какая-то возня и суета. Чего стоят алкоролевые страсти второй следачки, самосожжения, ночные пляски в ночнушках, нервные движения плечами адвокатихи блогерихи... Какая-то куча-мала и хорошо, что серий только 8. Вот саундтрек - это сто баллов. Хорошо бы кто-то заморочился и плейлист собрал. На я. м. есть но там не всё
00rainbow00
00rainbow00
PRO
07 Mar 13:28 # Show original
It turned out pretty well. I liked the acting (except for this curly-haired girl, Lisa, like). It looks good when compared with the same Others Inside the killer. That stuff is generally hard to watch.
myseryals
myseryals
07 Mar 21:54 # Show original
Personally, I have a lot of questions, it's not clear at all why the girl burned herself.
It is not clear why the wolf from the gas station went home when he knew that he was being tailed (sledachka)???? Who's going to do that? Why did the wolf mix something with the curly-haired girl twice, since, as it turned out, he did not touch any of them?? In general, there are a lot of questions.
I love the actress who plays sledachka, she took out the whole series for me, and Pavlov. Marina also played super well. In general, the actors' game is on top, but the plot itself is weak.
karinabuzia
karinabuzia
PRO
08 Mar 09:03 # Show original
With Marina, seriously...)))) Ahahaha))))
alex31
alex31
08 Mar 19:38 # Show original
It feels like there's still a series missing. And the last two are somehow running. Everything seems to be on the case. But something is missing. The blogger's story was leaked. There was no need to invent a novel. The wolf was not really revealed. He didn't kill, but why did he keep a psycho with him? She could have killed him too, in a fit of passion and jealousy. What an unexpected ending for Pavlov. I drove Marina away in every possible way, and now poof, I love her... I have a strange attitude towards my mother all the time and I don't understand why this is so.. a lot of reasons and so little because...
Lwwn
Lwwn
16 Mar 17:05 # Show original
The ending smiled!) However, it turned out to be completely unconvincing about love, probably because there were no obvious hints about it, except that he first thought of her when the Wolf escaped. If we had been more clearly shown to care about Marina, the ending would have seemed more logical. There is a place for such a finale, but I would like a slower development of events between them.
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