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s02e07 — I'm Not Going Anywhere

Invincible — s02e07 — I'm Not Going Anywhere

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Duration: 52 min.
Released: 28.03.202428.03.2024 15:00
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2 season
s02e07
s02 special-1 - Invincible: Atom Eve
s02e01 - A Lesson for Your Next Life
s02e02 - In About Six Hours I Lose My Virginity to a Fish
s02e03 - This Missive, This Machination
s02e04 - It's Been a While
s02e05 - This Must Come as a Shock
s02e06 - It's Not That Simple
s02e07 - I'm Not Going Anywhere
s02e08 - I Thought You Were Stronger

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BalaGi
BalaGi
28 Mar 12:47 #
Well, they made a funny joke with the animation budget, of course, but it would have been better if they hadn't done it at the beginning of the series — how can you watch it calmly after that?
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id4109444
id4109444
28 Mar 16:38 #
@BalaGi: self-irony is never superfluous)
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funnypennywise
funnypennywise
03 Apr 09:00 #
@id4109444: yes, it was an extra clowning, the animation in the series is too simple to do it for so long
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id4109444
id4109444
04 Apr 09:33 #
@funnypennywise: A little more sharper people on YouTube explained that this is in fact also a reference to comics with the conventions of their creation,
and in general, before you do something, it would be nice to try to make a simple animation yourself.;
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the_fallen_devil
the_fallen_devil
28 Mar 13:29 #
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SckraT
SckraT
28 Mar 20:14 #
A great series. And fights, and self-irony, and drama, and plot. It turned out great to fit everything in one episode.
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Tony_G
Tony_G
28 Mar 20:28 #
1) the moment with the meta-irony about animation turned out to be very funny
2) Donald's dialogue on the roof is one of the best moments of the season. IMHO
3) Anisa's criticism of capitalism came out almost convincing, Mark could really calmly establish order, but decides to play the good boy.
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DiKEY999
DiKEY999
28 Mar 21:36 #
It seems to me that Mark could have prevented many problems and prevented them if he could have killed at the right moment. Like with the kraken and the cruise. What was he pulling for …
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Doro
Doro
29 Mar 14:49 #
@Tony_G: Well, yes, well, yes, because people live well in dictatorships? Or are these not legitimate dictatorships and would Mark have a legitimate one?
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Tony_G
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29 Mar 16:34 #
@Doro: Why the dictatorship? The fact is that he could force the same capitalists to cause less harm to the planet by overproducing all sorts of junk, by force to achieve privileges for people exploited in some third world countries by the same corporations under the rule of the local bourgeoisie. This does not require a dictatorship, but a normal democracy from below, and not the power of the richest. It would be enough for him to support the people themselves so that the police would not kick them with batons every time they try to improve their lives.
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Doro
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29 Mar 16:43 #
@Tony_G: Mark would not be able to organize the power from below in any way, only if he killed those from above and then just new ones would come in their place, such is human nature.
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-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
29 Mar 16:47 #
@Tony_G: it's all unrealizable from the word at all)
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Tony_G
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29 Mar 17:02 #
@Doro: People and their characters do not have any unchangeable core in the form of human nature. Our history, and not our nature at all, makes us who we are; so that when history changes in its essence, then, following historical conditions, people will also be able to transform themselves. Aristotle considered slavery inherent in human nature, although a number of other ancient thinkers disagreed with this. Among medieval thinkers there were those who viewed the production of profit as unnatural and anti-human, since for these thinkers human nature coincided with the nature of feudalism. It's not the natural depravity of most people, but the pressure of material conditions that they are forced to obey.
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Doro
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29 Mar 17:24 #
@Tony_G: I simplified everything myself "capitalists" although these are the same people as from below and then you say that there is no human nature, although it clearly exists and follows from our needs. More game theory, I won't explain it, the council will just get acquainted. A zero-sum game.
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Tony_G
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29 Mar 17:43 #
@Doro: What does game theory have to do with it? It is only a tool for analyzing social relations, and not a confirmation of some kind of human nature. Moreover, in this theory, Nash found out that teamwork, when everyone is fighting for one goal, and not for their individual aspirations, is much more effective. In the case of capitalists, they fight primarily for their well-being to the detriment of the rest of society. Regarding the fact that "capitalists are people from below" I do not understand what is written, considering that I kind of clearly wrote that the system builds human needs, and not some kind of inherently embedded nature.
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Doro
Doro
29 Mar 19:01 #
@Tony_G: they didn't come up with anything better than capitalism, under any other system, all people live worse.
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Tony_G
Tony_G
29 Mar 19:06 #
@Doro: "They didn't come up with anything better than slavery, under any other system, all people live worse. (c) Aristotle
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adoraboy
adoraboy
30 Mar 02:45 #
@Tony_G:
>why the dictatorship?
>force
>by force to achieve

okay
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Tony_G
Tony_G
30 Mar 06:46 #
@adoraboy: Well, is it a dictatorship to achieve this by force? What is the contradiction if it is clear to anyone that there will be no changes without the use of force. It has been clear since the time of Spartacus, grassroots initiatives and requests for improving life are always suppressed by those in power. Therefore, any peaceful protest will end with a baton in the face. In this universe, Mark has levers of influence that ordinary people will never have, and he will not necessarily become a dictator if he forces completely overeager people in power to make progressive decisions that will improve the lives of the majority. An example from our life: raising the retirement age in Europe and the Russian Federation. Millions of people turned out against them, they were ignored and even the cops turned on them. Anti-war protests: a similar situation, batons, gas attacks. Yes, in such situations, you want some kind of superhero to protect ordinary people, even if by force.
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MathAddict
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07 Apr 11:10 #
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Tony_G
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07 Apr 11:23 #
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volodyuka
volodyuka
30 Mar 09:59 #
@Tony_G: if you read carefully, then the original comic sees terry fascism as an alternative to capitalism... with the series, it is still unclear whether they will depart from the canonical plot.
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Tony_G
Tony_G
30 Mar 10:03 #
@volodyuka: I haven't read the original, but if that's the case, then it's sad...
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svffer
svffer
03 Apr 20:54 #
@Tony_G: Yes, there is a condition for the arrival of Wiltrumites on Earth: after pumping out all resources, the planet will be destroyed along with the population. This information was part of the dialogue with Anissa in the comic
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Proto_drak
Proto_drak
02 Apr 14:48 #
It resembles the plot of injustice Justice League, where Superman decided that he would be able to establish order (dictatorship) on earth and solve all problems.
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anpadov
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04 Apr 11:40 #
@Tony_G: I read your answers. Boy, how do you manage not to see contradictions in your words? The Wiltrumites are offering slavery to humanity, and you take their words as criticism of capitalism. Wiltrum believes that man is unreasonable and that smart slave owners will make better use of people's lives.
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Tony_G
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04 Apr 12:00 #
@anpadov: What are the contradictions? I wrote that the speech was almost convincing and in general would not be meaningless if the Vultrumites were not ardent Darwinists who destroy the weak, in this regard their criticism of capitalism is no different from the criticism of capitalism by far-right politicians (fascists). In the rest of the answers, I just write about, in my opinion, an adequate alternative that Mr.
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anpadov
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04 Apr 12:02 #
@Tony_G: Which one, gg didn't offer anything like that
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Nog
Nog
28 Mar 23:59 #
A fighting lady.
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DiKEY999
DiKEY999
29 Mar 01:28 #
Don't you think there were different animation styles here, what were they talking about at the beginning of the series? When she broke through such a flash and the line of her flight, I usually use this in anime.
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byplayz
byplayz
29 Mar 00:04 #
High-strung Wiltrumitka ♥️
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tema_krasnoe
tema_krasnoe
29 Mar 00:06 #
@byplayz: beautiful, smart, strong, mmm)
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ЧижикПыжик
ЧижикПыжик
01 Apr 10:17 #
@tema_krasnoe: that is, the usual wiltrumite. But on her head she caught a one-eyed one. Waiting for the consequences)
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ИнтeрecныйФиллep
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06 Apr 10:49 #
@byplayz: According to the comics, she was so infatuated with Invulnerable to the point that she raped him and gave birth to Marky's son by him.
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tema_krasnoe
tema_krasnoe
29 Mar 00:08 #
Mark's day didn't go well...
my heart would stop if someone wrapped an arm around my neck, which can crush steel, not that fragile flesh...
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Anlyness
Anlyness
29 Mar 02:35 #
I hope Allen has a great plan.
There is a cool reference about saving effort and time for animation, etl constantly noticed in animated series when they can just show one picture for 20 seconds, or a hero from the back so that they don't draw mouth animation :)
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Falleny
Falleny
29 Mar 08:32 #
They finally broke up with Amber, this line had been going on for too long. Well, or almost broke up, in any case, I hope this is the end of their relationship.
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Hidji
Hidji
02 Apr 19:50 #
@Falleny: in general, I've been thinking for several episodes that they decided to bring him and Eva together according to the plot, but there's nothing yet). From a ton of comics about supermen, it is clear that in 99% of cases, relationships with ordinary people are not for them, but things are much better among themselves... Moreover, she also has problems with relationships. Xs, maybe they postponed it for season 3))).
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-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
29 Mar 08:44 #
"One day I came with a tree instead of a bouquet. I thought it was the same, only better. hDDDDDDD
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Mr_Knight
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29 Mar 15:43 #
@-TraumfraU-: как говорится, и в чем же он не прав?)
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-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
29 Mar 15:47 #
@Mr_Knight: if the tree is blooming (like cherry blossoms), then it's generally a buzz))
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Mr_Knight
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30 Mar 08:17 #
@-TraumfraU-: вот-вот, у них же у всех дома. Посадить и пусть себе цветёт на заднем дворе. Романтика
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ztRav4
ztRav4
29 Mar 09:04 #
Not bad, so Allen pumped up)
Well, the next episode is the final one, and judging by the beginning of this series, it seems that we are waiting for an almost three-year break again:(

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Mr_Knight
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29 Mar 15:43 #
@ztRav4: обещают, что не будет такого долгого перерыва, но.. не особо им верю) Посмотрим, как на деле будет.
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AliKHamidullin
AliKHamidullin
29 Mar 12:19 #
I didn't hear it?!? Did she tell Kaiju ?! Luxury class?
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BalaGi
BalaGi
29 Mar 12:44 #
@AliKHamidullin: a behemoth-class kaiju
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bekzhan
bekzhan
29 Mar 14:26 #
Since the first season, the main character's girlfriend has infuriated me. They finally broke up, I don 't see the point in seeing a lisping in such a bloody and merciless genre
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Vitek00500
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29 Mar 20:43 #
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Fera_one
Fera_one
30 Mar 01:30 #
Кайф. Сюжет стремительно летит вперед, жаль только, что серий в сезоне так мало, понимаешь, что хочется больше, особенно после таких вот серий. Отношения Неуязвимого затянулись, теперь то он наконец-то посвятит себя супергеройству, что очень радует. Ну и самоирония авторов по поводу анимации сработала на ура, отлично реализовали.
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Momo_69
Momo_69
30 Mar 02:01 #
Donald's monologue is something. The third-rate character is so well written, with his drama and philosophy, who would have thought that the author would try so hard on him.
The second best moment, self-irony with animation.)
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Mercer_Vortex
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30 Mar 02:02 #
It's time to get Mark mixed up with Eva)
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tsumi735
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02 Apr 18:31 #
Да, о Боже да, пожалуйста
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the_fallen_devil
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30 Mar 06:23 #
I hope the 8th series will end with the War of the Invulnerables. If there is no war, then the season will be weak
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GonReborn
GonReborn
30 Mar 21:15 #
At first, of course, there was a funny irony over the animation on the comic, but only the animated series itself does not look like they are trying to work on it in this regard, the maximum animation here is average, no more.
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AD-Rock
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31 Mar 18:07 #
@GonReborn: So that's the irony. They're messing around and laughing at it.
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kriptopsix
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31 Mar 02:20 #
Was someone at Mark's house in the end?
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-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
31 Mar 13:24 #
@kriptopsix: Angstrom Levy
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31 Mar 02:23 #
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nikita78
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31 Mar 02:23 #
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Cyberwatcher
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31 Mar 20:08 #
I understand that gg's relationship with people is a way to evoke empathy for the character, and at the same time his line with the girl just got how much you can let the same thing go around in a circle

I would like headphones like gg's, wiltrumitka beats him with such force, but he works!)
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Gordey
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01 Apr 14:07 #
Yeah, I got it in full... But for Alain, at least henna! :))
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alexandr_pflyaum
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02 Apr 08:12 #
Ethel Kane joska in the subject......
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shane1step
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04 Apr 05:50 #
I was absolutely delighted when I saw how my favorite meta-joke from the comic book was adapted to the format of an animated series. But now, a week later, after seeing how it is interpreted in the comments, the delight fades somewhat. It seems as if this joke leaned more towards self-irony. Yes, we can see what techniques animators use to animate less somewhere. However, camera angles not only reduce the time of hard work (drawing animation is difficult!), they work for cinematography. No one will be outraged if in a live-action movie or TV series a character is shown from behind during a conversation or if he covers his mouth with his hand. In the cinema, in general, a static frame where nothing happens is quite a trick. And when I see such scenes in animation, I think first of all not about how the authors reduced their work, but I think how animation at such moments paradoxically approaches the liveliness of cinema.

My favorite example: in the anime SSSS.Gridman, there was no movement for the opening half minute, only sounds from the schoolyard creating an atmosphere — the series was generally full of static, but it also created the feeling of a Sundance movie. And in "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" there is an even cooler scene where the character sits alone in a room for several minutes and only occasionally turns the pages of a book — a scene also based on sounds, conversations and screams coming from the school corridor. Cinema and animation are audio—visual arts. And the last thing I would think about is how much effort the animators saved in these examples.

It even seems to me that some examples of "Invulnerable" work too head-on, at the same time emphasizing the shortcomings of the series: the extras are too obviously standing still, and right now such fragments are often covered with three-dimensional models of lower quality, albeit somewhat out of style, but so that there is movement. As if in a joke, it was possible to approach more sophisticated: to show people standing in line to the author, to take a special angle for this. Well, so that it looks great in static.

The meta-joke from the comic seems to me more ambivalent (check out the picture first). On the one hand, it's still the same (self)The irony is about cutting corners and simplifying the work for the artist. On the other hand, repetitive frames are really a cool technique that can easily reduce the pace of narration (in McCloud's "Understanding of comics": "space on the page = time"), give pauses, and even stop time altogether. And sometimes repeating frames can have a powerful effect on the reader (I have an example, but only one place under the picture). And it's a shame for this duality. It's a shame for the animators, who deserve great respect even in the most "low-budget" scenes.
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Snegnarek
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04 Apr 22:42 #
@shane1step: Brilliant ideas are born out of limitations 👍
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Doctor_13
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06 Apr 20:36 #
And wiltrumintka is hot, and it speaks about inequality and other problems on earth. But when colonialists seize territory, don't they exploit subordinate territories? Or will these just bring prosperity to the lower race?
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kiprian_zhurov
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09 Apr 13:14 #
@Doctor_13: they will bring prosperity, but only such as suits the Viltrunists, I think)
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