That's fucked up. It's just fucked up. I'm sitting and crying at work. You can't do that. This is the last fucking season, why can't everything end well???? Why Asher??? Even at the moment when he approached the temple, my point shrank. Then they left, but I thought it couldn't be that good. And I thought he would get hurt, but in episode 6 he will be pumped out. But WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS FOR, WHY AM I FUCKING JUST Fuck. I don't have the words. Why do all my favorite Ushers die and make me cry.
Is this a joke?! Some kind of idiotic piano in the bushes, just idiotic! Nothing foreshadowed trouble! I just have one question. WHY?! Well, there's a lot of drama, plus the last season, couldn't we do without victims?!
I wonder how the situation with Charlie's complaint will be handled, but otherwise, it's simple...I didn't understand anything...
@olya_loui: add a die at the end. There is no other reason. Everything else developed in whole series, not 30 seconds.
There was clearly no desire to reveal the topic. Apparently, there was no goal. Although my friends are Jews from the USA/Canada, they say, has not encountered this \_(ツ)_/
Although half of the die discriminates against half of the other.
mdaaaaaaaa I agree with the general opinion that Usher's death was just an unreal blow, but as Freddie Highmore said in an interview, the farewell season will make viewers cry more than once. That's what I won't forgive the filmmakers if they also kill Aaron Glassman.
After the loss of Melendez and how it was in vain, there is nothing to be surprised about. But I'm in shock right now! There was no hope of salvation: a pool of blood and open eyes. I understood that as soon as the war started, someone would definitely get hurt. But I thought more that after Asher left, they would attack Ravin and he would blame himself for leaving him. And even at the moment when they were following him, it could not have occurred to them that this was all. What a horror - he was such a nice guy, a good friend and an amazing doctor! They're just inhumans💔
It's morning, I have to go to school soon, and I'm crying. I knew it, I knew it, that everything can't be good for so many episodes, but here it is! I don't believe he's dead, not at all. I'm still(!) mourning Melendez and I don't want to mourn anyone else, no thanks
Well, the last season, so the trash content is not at the end, but at the beginning..... It's a pity that it happened, or rather it didn't work out, I was already waiting for the wedding. The blonde with the RACES is infuriating, of course, Sean was also a heavy resident, but at least he was brilliant)
Hmm... I really hope that Asher will survive. As for the upbringing of a child, it is a very questionable method to give a child to yell for 10 minutes. Moreover, stress is not only for the child, but also for the parents... So much for the or on the resident's girl. As for me, it's generally a dubious decision to put two people with a diagnosis on the same team. Moreover, both diagnoses are impressive...
@Acritas: considering the finale of the series, to close all open lines for him. A classic technique. For example, in "The Walking Dead", if a character "SUDDENLY" became the main character in the series and all lines were closed with him, then he was killed)
@Vladimirershov: well, technically, they have been exposing themselves as the only and main victims for the longest time, so something should be allowed and said goodbye to everyone else from their lordly shoulder (although the Hasidim send greetings), although there have been dozens of similar persecutions around the world. If you are interested, you can read the article by Thomas Soule (available in Russian): "Is anti-Semitism unique?".
I don't like this kind of thing because it devalues ALL the other victims of something. For example, the Second World War. 50+ million people died during it, and the media around the world only talk about the same people, although they are not even in the first place in terms of the number of dead (oddly enough for many, the Chinese are in the first place).
P.S. In general, Hasidim are very unpleasant personalities. There is a friend who was with her father in their community in Israel. And during communication with the Hasidic daughter, she said that she was not a "real" Jew, but only by dad. The Hasidic family found out about this after the departure of a friend. But they still had her father. My father has already told me that the Hasidim scrubbed the house for 3 days after, and they burned the bed linen where a friend slept. That's the kind of orthodoxy that happens. I don't know how to interact with them and want to communicate.
@-TraumfraU-: Yes, but I talked about nationalities above. I feel sorry for everyone, of course.
The Chinese were not particularly spared, but not afraid of competition within, as it was in the USSR (first whites, then aristocrats, kulaks, adamant intellectuals, anyone who was denounced), and considering those who did not want to participate in anything to be inanimate. The Yellow River flood of 1938 as an example of stupidity, ugliness, contempt for those who are lower on the social level, when they drained the water from the dam and killed (drowned, starvation, disease) at least by their own calculations (and China always underestimates the internal shoals) 500,000 people.
@Chizhikpyzhik: Oh, yes, it turns out that we have a great expert on Judaism and Scripture here, I'm looking. You're definitely better than screenwriters, consultants, and Jews in general. Amazing! Although, of course, it would be worthwhile to first learn how to spell the words related to this correctly. Otherwise, the image of the brilliant educator and savior of the narrow-minded viewers from the insidious propaganda of the authors somehow cracks. But for sure I don't fumble either, and it's all really the little things of life.
Well, that's why, was it really impossible without it? They just caught up with the drama with all their might. I understand that it is important to draw attention to such acute social problems, but senseless cruelty is enough in life. I would like to distract myself with the series, and not drive myself even harder.
Also, of course, I don't understand the logic of forcing Charlie into Sean's team. Firstly, they are clearly not glued, which can really harm patients. Secondly, they are both guys with special needs, and each of them needs the help of neurotypical colleagues for normal contact with patients and their families, it would be logical to separate them. It seems that in the first seasons there were patients who were confused that a doctor with autism was working with them, and now there are two such doctors in the team at the same time, but not a single complaint.
@wickedsugar: I also didn't understand why they were stuffing her just to get revenge on Sean for the way they suffered with him. Well, either they think that Sean will learn. Or was Charlie so insistent? At least Sean studied when he was told he was wrong. In principle, any student who distracts the doctor with arguments during surgery should be kicked out of the operating room, it does not matter if he is autistic or not.
And if she can't concentrate under pressure, what kind of surgeon is she going to be? Sean overcame his stupors with the support of neurotypical colleagues, how would Charlie support Sean or he her in case of problems with one of them?
I just don't have the words, Asher, damn it, why Asher? One of my favorite characters, but what kind... I really can't find the words, it's impossible.
An interesting effect. When Sean was being bullied by Khan, he wanted to be protected. It was clearly felt that Khan was wrong, and he should change his mind. There is no such thing with a new student. She was made very annoying. And now there's a complaint from her. Despite the fact that she messed up herself, and then tried to distract the surgeons from the patient during the operation to explain why her joint is not a joint.
@Straight25: this is because we see the situation from different points of view, in the first case - from the position of Sean the student and we sympathize with him and feel injustice towards him, in the second case - again from the position of Sean, but already a teacher, and get annoyed with him. The so-called storyteller's magic. But if the first situation had been shown by Khan or the second by Charlie, the perception would have been completely different
@Straight25: I even thought about Khan that he was partially right, although he was very tough, but I don't understand Charlie at all. Any student who argues with a doctor who is pulling a patient out of the next world right now should be put out of the operating room and admit his joint, and if he is not able, this is the student's problem, whether he is autistic or not.
If Charlie has such a problem with concentration, what kind of surgeon is she going to be? Will she stand in a crisis and explain how everyone around her did the wrong thing?
Of course, everything is according to the canon of drama (when he accepted himself, realized everything, was going to take an important step), but this does not reduce the level of my sadness
I may be wrong. But Sean ACTUALLY yelled at Charlene this time and kicked her out of the operating room. I am extremely surprised that she wrote a complaint and what is the wording there? I didn't put in all the necessary tools, which could have caused the patient to die, and Dr. Murphy kicked me out of the operating room when I tried to prove that I was not to blame while the patient was lying on the operating table and his life was in danger? Well, that's crazy. And yes, the heroine is unnecessarily annoying. There is no sympathy for her. This is medicine - there is no room for error/ignorance.
@maryleontyeva: I think there will be a link in the complaint to how Sean said that he started the operation slightly sleepy ((like, because of this, he allowed a situation in which the patient was in danger, and she is a victim of circumstances here
@maryleontyeva: yes, absolutely to the point, in general it's amazing how they run around with a student intern, is it really true that someone is courting students like that :D
What the hell? Why did you have to do that? I don't understand the desire of the screenwriters to perform such turns with the characters. The whole episode was ruined. Glassman and Audrey's mom are great) but the fact that Audrey broke up with her man is also unpleasant. Was it possible to give happiness to this woman? No, they'll leave her alone at the end of the whole series. Sean annoys me as much as the new heroine. Instead of shutting up and dealing with a patient in the operating room in a critical situation, he continues to argue with her so that he has the last word. Yes, you shut up and work yourself, then you will express everything. But the principled nature of the co-presidents is really strange, what is the problem with separating them into different teams.
To eat glass at the beginning of the season? For what? This is a medical series, not a drama for the sake of drama. We are ready to shed tears from really incurable diseases and conditions, and not from a blunt blow to the head with a blunt object by a blunt npc character
@debaucher: For the sake of the die, you could kill anyone from the incoming patients. But to bring out the actor of the main cast just like that, because his death will not give any development to other characters, is incredible nonsense
I just recently watched desperate housewives I still haven't stopped being outraged about how a character was leaked there in the last season just for no reason, and now here is exactly the same situation🗿 Well, it's so stupid that there are just no words
Some kind of far-fetched drama with Charlie, the duty to teach is not from Sean, but from the hospital, there are few other surgeons. Sean as a teacher is like a bear as a ballerina.
A modern TV series, modern medicine, modern relationships, modern problems in society are being raised, but the baby will scream like in ancient times... Sean says himself: "Steve crying is a way for adults to know that he needs care." Therefore, we will sit with the poker face for 10 minutes. Like the wolves ate us? It's just nonsense. Asher's death is also some kind of nonsense.. It seems to me that those scum would just as well have punched a white heterosexual man in the head simply because they are scum, and someone dared to interrupt their occupation and threaten the police.. The disassembly from series to series is also fed up. None of the characters learns anything they shouldn't have learned, but only butt heads like two sheep. I don't see a new super surgeon and awesome mentor at the end of the season, to be honest. It's like I'm not looking at a good doctor, but reading someone's unsuccessful fan fiction..
@Eudial69: "Disassembly"!!!! Brilliant! I agree about Steve's crying, no one uses this method of teaching self-help from more or less adequate parents anymore... And here's Sean, the genius doctor, and he didn't find anything better?
A surprisingly uncharacteristic and frankly poorly made series.
Usually, showing some approaches to the life of the characters, this series tried to consider it from different angles. Here they concentrated on the frankly dangerous practice of ignoring a child's crying. Such an approach to the upbringing of a baby is a cruel dissatisfaction with its needs, which leads to disorders of personality development, in particular to melancholic depression, which cannot be cured in adulthood. And it's been proven. But no hero talks about it.
It is important and necessary to show the problem of anti-Semitism, especially now. But to show it in the style of "a man closed all his conflicts in one day and died" — well, that. This shows neither the reasons, nor the essence, nor the system. It does not show where it comes from, how it works, what is the crookedness of logic and why exactly this is bad and concerns everyone, except for a cool gay man who died. Although this, of course, is insulting and stupid. Stupid pointless drain. One day, the screenwriters of the world will realize that by killing important and catchy characters, throwing plot prerequisites in three seconds, just to press the "suffer" button and show some kind of thing, WELL, VERY BAD, they actually just devalue the character's life and the meaning of their own plot. The viewer is not impressed by just death, does not go to think about the problem after such a plot for twenty minutes "went in and out ". The viewer just thinks that the plot is a hack.
The viewer in my person came to this and throws the series.
@rony_mcglynn: the series started falling down a long time ago, just at the end of last season-the beginning of this one leveled off slightly, but now the old song started again and all the same jambs
Brilliant Dr. Sean - I will solve any medical problem, if I do not solve it, then I will find a solution in reference books and magazines, I will find the most modern methods of solution He also ignores the crying of children, as he was taught 40 years ago!
Kaaaaaaapets, I did not expect such a quick and unexpected death at all, it did not portend anything, and to be honest, it looks so stupid. It's a shame to the point of tears, why is this with Asher😭😭💔
And the fact that this annoying Charlie wrote a complaint killed me. Sean may be biased against her, but it's not organized out of the blue. She really doesn't shut up, she always wants to find out everything, and for God's sake, she bothers everyone. When he kicked her out, it was all about the fact and the case. She had already been told about the order and quantity of tools literally in a day, but no, she decided to do it her own way and because of what a man almost died. But then again, what Sean says all the time is that she doesn't admit her mistakes. This is her huge problem, she doesn't feel guilty at all and doesn't seem to want to study. The man dies on the table, and she distracts the doctors from the operation to prove the fact that she is not to blame for the situation where she is to blame. God forgive me, but sometimes you want to shake her up.
I don't know why, but in the middle of the episode, the thought suddenly arose that Asher would be gone. I drove her away from me, like - well, Kamon, what nonsense. And here it is.... Very unexpected, very sorry
This is some kind of nightmare. She just yelled at the whole apartment that this was bullying. You can't do that. You can at least leave something good for the audience at the end. I'm terrified.
Why did they kill Asher? Here I sit and cry, I've never written comments, but here it goes straight to the heart. He was so cool, the only one who made you smile when watching the series
I spoilt the finale of the series for myself when I went to check the names of the actors of the guest roles on the imdb, in the process of watching. And I accidentally saw a freeze frame of the next episode. And I'm even glad about it (not the plot). I really didn't want to be in the same shock as the others, and in the end I managed not to burst into tears. With difficulty. I'm really sorry about Asher. He was bright and funny. I hope the freaks get caught.
About the guest role. I was pleasantly surprised to see Matt McCoy (the elderly groom). And although the actor is 65 years old, I recognized him by his kind eyes. Faces from childhood in memory - Nick from the Police Academy 5 and 6 parts.
Top 10 unexpected endings, this is probably the last thing that could have been expected at all. I don't really believe that they will kill Asher, but if they do, then I don't understand why at all. Just to put salt on the wound for the audience?
It's an interesting story with Sean and quite ambiguous. Both are to blame for the situation, both do not particularly like each other. I do not understand why it is impossible to give her to the guardianship of the Park, what is the problem of exchanging students. It just happens that people don't get along together. In addition, they are in fact the same, on their own minds, interrupt everyone and everything, do as they see fit, and whoever does otherwise is wrong. Therefore, naturally, it will be very difficult for them to find a common language. But let's see how this complaint affects Sean, what the consequences may be.
You can't do that. This is the last fucking season, why can't everything end well????
Why Asher??? Even at the moment when he approached the temple, my point shrank. Then they left, but I thought it couldn't be that good. And I thought he would get hurt, but in episode 6 he will be pumped out. But WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS FOR, WHY AM I FUCKING JUST
Fuck. I don't have the words. Why do all my favorite Ushers die and make me cry.
Some kind of idiotic piano in the bushes, just idiotic! Nothing foreshadowed trouble!
I just have one question. WHY?! Well, there's a lot of drama, plus the last season, couldn't we do without victims?!
I wonder how the situation with Charlie's complaint will be handled, but otherwise, it's simple...I didn't understand anything...
The actor is so funny, his eyes were so funny all the time.
He's so funny there.
It was super unexpected, I'm roaring.
There was clearly no desire to reveal the topic. Apparently, there was no goal. Although my friends are Jews from the USA/Canada, they say, has not encountered this \_(ツ)_/
Although half of the die discriminates against half of the other.
The blonde with the RACES is infuriating, of course, Sean was also a heavy resident, but at least he was brilliant)
As for the upbringing of a child, it is a very questionable method to give a child to yell for 10 minutes. Moreover, stress is not only for the child, but also for the parents... So much for the or on the resident's girl.
As for me, it's generally a dubious decision to put two people with a diagnosis on the same team. Moreover, both diagnoses are impressive...
Why can't she be followed by another doctor! They were very good at the Park
I feel sorry for Asher. I don't particularly like this character, but he didn't deserve this...
For example, in "The Walking Dead", if a character "SUDDENLY" became the main character in the series and all lines were closed with him, then he was killed)
I don't like this kind of thing because it devalues ALL the other victims of something. For example, the Second World War. 50+ million people died during it, and the media around the world only talk about the same people, although they are not even in the first place in terms of the number of dead (oddly enough for many, the Chinese are in the first place).
P.S. In general, Hasidim are very unpleasant personalities. There is a friend who was with her father in their community in Israel. And during communication with the Hasidic daughter, she said that she was not a "real" Jew, but only by dad. The Hasidic family found out about this after the departure of a friend. But they still had her father. My father has already told me that the Hasidim scrubbed the house for 3 days after, and they burned the bed linen where a friend slept.
That's the kind of orthodoxy that happens. I don't know how to interact with them and want to communicate.
I feel sorry for everyone, of course.
The Chinese were not particularly spared, but not afraid of competition within, as it was in the USSR (first whites, then aristocrats, kulaks, adamant intellectuals, anyone who was denounced), and considering those who did not want to participate in anything to be inanimate. The Yellow River flood of 1938 as an example of stupidity, ugliness, contempt for those who are lower on the social level, when they drained the water from the dam and killed (drowned, starvation, disease) at least by their own calculations (and China always underestimates the internal shoals) 500,000 people.
Although, of course, it would be worthwhile to first learn how to spell the words related to this correctly. Otherwise, the image of the brilliant educator and savior of the narrow-minded viewers from the insidious propaganda of the authors somehow cracks. But for sure I don't fumble either, and it's all really the little things of life.
They just caught up with the drama with all their might.
I understand that it is important to draw attention to such acute social problems, but senseless cruelty is enough in life. I would like to distract myself with the series, and not drive myself even harder.
Also, of course, I don't understand the logic of forcing Charlie into Sean's team.
Firstly, they are clearly not glued, which can really harm patients.
Secondly, they are both guys with special needs, and each of them needs the help of neurotypical colleagues for normal contact with patients and their families, it would be logical to separate them.
It seems that in the first seasons there were patients who were confused that a doctor with autism was working with them, and now there are two such doctors in the team at the same time, but not a single complaint.
Like, minus by minus gives a plus) Another one will be added, patients will stop liking it again))
At least Sean studied when he was told he was wrong.
In principle, any student who distracts the doctor with arguments during surgery should be kicked out of the operating room, it does not matter if he is autistic or not.
And if she can't concentrate under pressure, what kind of surgeon is she going to be? Sean overcame his stupors with the support of neurotypical colleagues, how would Charlie support Sean or he her in case of problems with one of them?
If Charlie has such a problem with concentration, what kind of surgeon is she going to be? Will she stand in a crisis and explain how everyone around her did the wrong thing?
Glassman and Audrey's mom are great) but the fact that Audrey broke up with her man is also unpleasant. Was it possible to give happiness to this woman? No, they'll leave her alone at the end of the whole series.
Sean annoys me as much as the new heroine. Instead of shutting up and dealing with a patient in the operating room in a critical situation, he continues to argue with her so that he has the last word. Yes, you shut up and work yourself, then you will express everything. But the principled nature of the co-presidents is really strange, what is the problem with separating them into different teams.
I still haven't stopped being outraged about how a character was leaked there in the last season just for no reason, and now here is exactly the same situation🗿
Well, it's so stupid that there are just no words
Asher's death is also some kind of nonsense.. It seems to me that those scum would just as well have punched a white heterosexual man in the head simply because they are scum, and someone dared to interrupt their occupation and threaten the police..
The disassembly from series to series is also fed up. None of the characters learns anything they shouldn't have learned, but only butt heads like two sheep. I don't see a new super surgeon and awesome mentor at the end of the season, to be honest.
It's like I'm not looking at a good doctor, but reading someone's unsuccessful fan fiction..
I agree about Steve's crying, no one uses this method of teaching self-help from more or less adequate parents anymore... And here's Sean, the genius doctor, and he didn't find anything better?
Usually, showing some approaches to the life of the characters, this series tried to consider it from different angles.
Here they concentrated on the frankly dangerous practice of ignoring a child's crying. Such an approach to the upbringing of a baby is a cruel dissatisfaction with its needs, which leads to disorders of personality development, in particular to melancholic depression, which cannot be cured in adulthood. And it's been proven. But no hero talks about it.
It is important and necessary to show the problem of anti-Semitism, especially now.
But to show it in the style of "a man closed all his conflicts in one day and died" — well, that. This shows neither the reasons, nor the essence, nor the system. It does not show where it comes from, how it works, what is the crookedness of logic and why exactly this is bad and concerns everyone, except for a cool gay man who died.
Although this, of course, is insulting and stupid. Stupid pointless drain.
One day, the screenwriters of the world will realize that by killing important and catchy characters, throwing plot prerequisites in three seconds, just to press the "suffer" button and show some kind of thing, WELL, VERY BAD, they actually just devalue the character's life and the meaning of their own plot. The viewer is not impressed by just death, does not go to think about the problem after such a plot for twenty minutes "went in and out ".
The viewer just thinks that the plot is a hack.
The viewer in my person came to this and throws the series.
He also ignores the crying of children, as he was taught 40 years ago!
And the fact that this annoying Charlie wrote a complaint killed me. Sean may be biased against her, but it's not organized out of the blue. She really doesn't shut up, she always wants to find out everything, and for God's sake, she bothers everyone. When he kicked her out, it was all about the fact and the case. She had already been told about the order and quantity of tools literally in a day, but no, she decided to do it her own way and because of what a man almost died. But then again, what Sean says all the time is that she doesn't admit her mistakes. This is her huge problem, she doesn't feel guilty at all and doesn't seem to want to study. The man dies on the table, and she distracts the doctors from the operation to prove the fact that she is not to blame for the situation where she is to blame. God forgive me, but sometimes you want to shake her up.
I almost fell off the track I was running on from the last seconds of the episode.
I'm terrified.
And I'm even glad about it (not the plot). I really didn't want to be in the same shock as the others, and in the end I managed not to burst into tears. With difficulty. I'm really sorry about Asher. He was bright and funny. I hope the freaks get caught.
About the guest role. I was pleasantly surprised to see Matt McCoy (the elderly groom). And although the actor is 65 years old, I recognized him by his kind eyes. Faces from childhood in memory - Nick from the Police Academy 5 and 6 parts.
well ,why so?!😭
It's an interesting story with Sean and quite ambiguous. Both are to blame for the situation, both do not particularly like each other. I do not understand why it is impossible to give her to the guardianship of the Park, what is the problem of exchanging students. It just happens that people don't get along together. In addition, they are in fact the same, on their own minds, interrupt everyone and everything, do as they see fit, and whoever does otherwise is wrong. Therefore, naturally, it will be very difficult for them to find a common language. But let's see how this complaint affects Sean, what the consequences may be.