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s01e02 — Revenge / Justice

The Acolyte — s01e02 — Revenge / Justice

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Duration: 36 min.
Released: 04.06.202404.06.2024 15:00
Watched by: 2 10535.85%
1 season
s01e02
s01e01 - Lost / Found
s01e02 - Revenge / Justice
s01e03 - Destiny
s01e04 - Day
Release date
25 June
Release date
02 July
Release date
09 July
Release date
16 July

Discussion of the 2 episode of the 1 season
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Nog
Nog
05 Jun 13:32 # Show original
A Jedi Wookiee, wow. It's very rare.
But in general, I rather like it than not, I'm curious what all this will lead to. And who is this master who teaches Mei. Darth Plagueis? Although he didn't seem to have any students, except Palpatine. But they can rewrite history again, for the first time, or what?
Leyto
Leyto
05 Jun 15:23 # Show original
@Nog: who said it wasn't? Even Palpatine had их how many?
Nog
Nog
05 Jun 16:34 # Show original
@Leyto: Palpatine lost them, but he still took one at a time, the rule of two is the same. And he killed Plagueis himself, being the first and eventually the only one of his students. However, I cannot say that I am one hundred percent right, I have been reading about him for a long time.
However, there was also a theory that this was Plagueis' own teacher, and the girl might turn out to be his mother in the future.
Or maybe it's just nonsense, and it won't be like that at all.
kw_est
kw_est
07 Jun 05:47 # Show original
@Nog: and in the end it turns out that it was all a Wookiee's dream...
Сериальщик732
Сериальщик732
07 Jun 16:52 # Show original
@kw_est: or that their triplets and the third against their two will be for a neutral force 😂
GonReborn
GonReborn
05 Jun 23:55 # Show original
@Nog: for once, someone gives us a plot in a different time from the Skywalker saga and with other characters, and for some reason you want to attach the plot to them again. I hope that these characters will not be associated with them, but I will be glad if they show a glimpse of Yoda, who at this time should be an order after all, considering that specifically he was 900 years old at the time of episode 3.
Nog
Nog
06 Jun 00:07 # Show original
@GonReborn: I accept the reproach, although I am not saying this myself, but the experience of getting to know the universe)
And there are plenty of dark force users there.
mandrygin95
mandrygin95
06 Jun 00:14 # Show original
It's not in connection with the Volcker saga, but with the fact that for two series the project looks like a failure, they brought more plot.Moreover, there is not verified information that should shake the canon very much in the coming episodes.As for Yoda, he was already a Grand Master in the order according to the timeline, so his absence on the contrary raises questions, as well as the fact that someone other than Yoda is engaged in the training of younglings.And as for the fanservice characters, they can be scraped together here by the same teacher Dooku, and Dooku himself as youngling, Darth Plagueis, Yaddle, Oppo Rancisis.These are all the most important characters of this era and this is only a small part of those who can be remembered
ДенисЛевин
ДенисЛевин
06 Jun 22:01 # Show original
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vk384183
vk384183
05 Jun 15:37 # Show original
Who said that this is not a disciple of a disciple... one of many
DarvTormen
DarvTormen
05 Jun 19:49 # Show original
The arrogance of the Jedi in all its glory. Epochs change, but they don't...
Choly_Cavel
Choly_Cavel
05 Jun 20:49 # Show original
The murky story seems to have been there in the past, with this fire and the Jedi. I feel the understatement.
GonReborn
GonReborn
05 Jun 23:48 # Show original
The series flew by quickly. Interestingly, this Torbin came up with the idea that he was sitting in such a ball of power, and that he was waiting for her to come after him to pay for the sins of the past. I wonder what they did there, considering how Saul behaves in parallel with these statements. Perhaps they are trying to confuse the viewer so that we think that May is being deceived by her teacher, although perhaps it was Osha who was deceived, or even both of them were not told the whole truth. I hope at least the Wookiee Jedi doesn't get dealt.
adoraboy
adoraboy
07 Jun 01:58 # Show original
@GonReborn: Well, it's shorter by 10 minutes)))
kuzyun
kuzyun
05 Jun 23:53 # Show original
Finally, Oleg's planet
adoraboy
adoraboy
07 Jun 01:59 # Show original
@kuzyun: Yeah, the whole episode flew away at every mention.
"Set a course for Oleg"
"We need to escape from Oleg"
AtreidesLW
AtreidesLW
06 Jun 01:53 # Show original
Low-budget and rushing, except for Master Sol and his padawan, played by Daphne Keen, there is nothing to look at at all
Paramelion
Paramelion
06 Jun 03:59 # Show original
Are you sure this isn't fan fiction? Yes, I think even fan fiction would be better written.
Why do I have to wait until the last episode to find out why the great Jedi voluntarily drank Poison, even though the other two fought with her and have no idea why she kills them?

What prevented her from immediately summoning a cloud of dust and killing Saul, and not just running away while he was blind?
Why didn't the sister come out right away, even though she heard all the negotiations when Yord came on stage and they convinced her for a minute that Osha was alive?
msev
msev
PRO
06 Jun 07:10 # Show original
@Paramelion: There may be many questions, but the answer is the same: the script is complete. But, my young Padawan))
GritsanY
GritsanY
09 Jun 00:32 # Show original
@Paramelion: In a cloud of sand, lna would not have seen anything herself. And Indara fought with her because at first she did not understand who it was. Saul knew perfectly well, obviously, why she wanted to kill them, so he didn't talk to her much about it, but asked her who taught her.
Paramelion
Paramelion
09 Jun 19:11 # Show original
@GritsanY: Why did she leave after seeing her sister, even though all her revenge was for killing her family?) Despite the fact that she then returned to the pharmacist and did not even say a word about her sister, but immediately thought how to escape and send for a new revenge?)
GritsanY
GritsanY
09 Jun 19:35 # Show original
@Paramelion: here we are already treading on the ground of guesses and assumptions. It was clear from May's reaction that she was shocked that her sister was alive, but we don't know what motivates her more - revenge or ambition, the desire to complete the master's task. And she certainly wasn't going to chat with the pharmacist, especially after he turned her in.
Sayonara_Nirvana
Sayonara_Nirvana
PRO
06 Jun 11:43 # Show original
I see, in short, with this series. everything)
Gordey
Gordey
06 Jun 13:31 # Show original
Why did the Jedi take the long road to this suicide in the temple if there was a short one that Osha took?
Why did Saul fight so long and hard with May if he could stupidly twist her by force and punch her in the head?
Why does some merchant already know where to look for the third of the necessary Jedi, and no one in the Council is itching to send protection to him? Are they jerks?
maxnmd
maxnmd
06 Jun 14:21 # Show original
@Gordey: Good questions, very good ones. Then there will be more of them. It feels like you can already stop watching the series on the 4th episode)
fanatikDK
fanatikDK
06 Jun 14:20 # Show original
Unfortunately, for one high-quality TV series, there is one (at best) passer-by.
Now I can't get rid of the thought that for 130 years, anyone was taken into the order once, to put it mildly, not the most skillful possessor of power crumbles those to the left and to the right.
Sei-sama
Sei-sama
06 Jun 15:57 # Show original
It's frustrating to have a weak plot, a poorly written script, jumping from one planet to another with nothing and without a proper plot transition. Lightsabers like in SWTOR - Easter Egg. It's just a pity they are used as a lamp, and in the first series Master Indara waved a couple of times. That's all. That's right, if the Jedi are fighting, then use swords! I suspect that they lead to the fact that May is an acolyte, not an apprentice, which means that she has not yet earned the right to a lightsaber.
Даня_
Даня_
07 Jun 01:29 # Show original
@Sei-sama: So this incomprehensible Sith literally said so at the end of the first episode...If you attack a Jedi with a weapon, you will lose. Steel or lasers are not an obstacle for them. But the acolyte... An acolyte kills without a weapon."

That is, he clearly says that she is an acolyte.
And also in this series, Kuimir bluntly says that HE forbade her to use weapons / tricks and she must kill her targets herself, which also hints that she, as an acolyte, is being tested for the ability to wield a sword
Sei-sama
Sei-sama
08 Jun 00:30 # Show original
@Даня_: yes, that sith calls it acolyte, but my comment was about whether the creators would be faithful to lore, or come up with something new, hence "I suspect that they lead to...". Because the canon has already been changed, xs that can be taken for granted.
Nexus34
Nexus34
07 Jun 10:21 # Show original
@Sei-sama: In both fights, May tried to pull a lightsaber from the Jedi's belt
Sei-sama
Sei-sama
08 Jun 00:33 # Show original
@Nexus34: in both fights, it is not clear why Mei reached for the sword with her hand, and not with the help of Force? Who knows if the opponent will have time to intercept the sword back, especially if Mei distracted Master Indarra in the first fight to save others twice, which gave her an advantage.
Nexus34
Nexus34
09 Jun 18:30 # Show original
@Sei-sama: hmm, maybe that was the meaning of May's mentor's words not to use weapons (force?), the Jedi should feel when someone uses force, but she only fights with physical strength and as if actions are less predictable
Sei-sama
Sei-sama
09 Jun 19:25 # Show original
@Nexus34: The Jedi read the opponent regardless of whether they use the Force or not. Otherwise, any opponent without Strength would be on equal terms with them.
Kroze
Kroze
06 Jun 18:46 # Show original
The whole series was pumped up, pumped up, and Oleg himself was shown like that...
GritsanY
GritsanY
09 Jun 00:34 # Show original
@Kroze: if you have your own planet, then you are no longer chasing fame...
ekko
ekko
06 Jun 19:56 # Show original
100 years before SU, it seems, the Jedi Order was grinding hard. They took just anyone. Both masters and students. Especially bodypositive.
The killing of the second Jedi was masterfully staged. Agent 47 himself would be impressed.
The Jedi, like Padme, just didn't want to live.

It seems like it was possible to glue a normal story out of this, but how badly it was written and staged.
Perhaps I can only throw a plus sign for the choreography of the fights-they look better than expected by Disney standards.
timerrekt
timerrekt
10 Jun 19:41 # Show original
@ekko: well, they explained the hairstyles, they have the same since childhood (to the question about your comment in the first episode).
"The Jedi, like Padme, just didn't want to live." He had reasons to do this, it is very interesting what happened there 16 years ago.
That's how it works with TV shows, you look further and they tell you the details.
w1semc
w1semc
06 Jun 22:44 # Show original
For a good start)
Даня_
Даня_
07 Jun 01:15 # Show original
I'm still interested in the series. It's beautiful and interesting.
There are a lot of plot holes, just like that. There are no illogicalities either.
But it's the same thing, take any project and it will be about the same, no matter how the fans reject it.

It is very interesting what happened on that planet that none of the sisters knows that the second one survived, but at the same time one of the Jedi blames himself so much that he died of his own free will.

It's very interesting why Saul treats this girl like that. She's not even his padawan, but he looks at her as if they almost had an affair there.

Mae is beautiful, her sister is not very much, which is funny considering that they are played by the same actress.
Yord is funny, so far very interesting, but there is a suspicion that he will be left until the end of the season as an errand boy of the second plan.

Vernestra looks like something else. A Jedi in a trance also looked pretty good, but in his case it's cool that not only sexy men are accepted as Jedi. A padawan with a volume of three people is a strange story. Kuimir is some kind of budget copy of Ezra Miller
porco
porco
07 Jun 02:30 # Show original
And "Obi Wan" wasn't so bad...
DmitriyPetrov
DmitriyPetrov
07 Jun 19:38 # Show original
The Negro-Chinese farce 🙈
There is not even a gram of the spirit of the Star Warriors in this camp.
Disney, burn in Hell!
Wookiee Jedi - spit at all the fans of the stars
fluffyevil
fluffyevil
08 Jun 01:14 # Show original
@DmitriyPetrov: What kind of SOUNDS are you a fan of if there were at least 4 Wookiee Jedi in the RV at the time of Lucas?
DmitriyPetrov
DmitriyPetrov
08 Jun 03:17 # Show original
@fluffyevil: First of all, you're going to poke your mom.
Secondly, in which numbered part and at what minute did Lucas have the Wookiee Jedi? Don't talk nonsense.
fluffyevil
fluffyevil
08 Jun 05:37 # Show original
@DmitriyPetrov: There was nothing in the RV that Lucas personally would not allow to be added. If there were Wookiee Jedi in the RV, then they corresponded to his views on the universe. Up to a certain point, at least. They were in fags, they were in books and they were in VK. So what are you doing there?
msev
msev
PRO
08 Jun 12:12 # Show original
@fluffyevil: Heh ... "plucked " Dmitry Yanov, because in general he is more right than wrong)) Blacks with dreadlocks really belong in the Black Panther. And there is no racism here - they are in their place there)) If you watch this interview (https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2215363609/?playlistId=nm2853516& ref_=nm_pr_ov_vi) , it is clear that the title actress has quite pleasant facial features, and with a hairstyle a la Padme Emidal, she would look decent in the movie. What prevented a good heroine from choosing a similar style, and for an evil one, a short haircut that emphasized her more aggressive nature? Yes, even a young Jedi (I don't remember his name in Alcoholite) is also quite normal. with a short haircut))
At the very least, the appearance of the Wookiee Jedi had to be pre-played somehow. If they appeared in novels by name, then for people unprepared it is a shock)) I don't see any point in blaming them for this)) For example, in several novels, there was a mention of the Hutt Jedi Beldorion. And is it thoughtless to introduce him into the movie canon? I would be very careful with that. Being able to shock fans is not a sign of talent, I think.
Well, the Chinese farce is also understandable)) In fact, this is a Korean farce)) I would also not take on a key role of an actor who does not know how to speak English at all. Watch the series with the original audio track and you will be horrified by the aggressive Asian accent of actor Lee Jung-jae. And this is not surprising! Before Acolyte, he had all the roles, as well as interviews in Korean, i.e., at best, a couple of months before the start of filming, he took English lessons and then struggled to extract something articulate on set. There is no question of any normal acting here.
adoraboy
adoraboy
08 Jun 15:07 # Show original
@msev:
1. English does not affect acting, and even if it does, a huge number of native English speakers have such an accent, there are a lot of migrants from Asian countries of the first and second generations in America. In almost any movie, people have accents and this is not an indicator of the level of English, but the norm for a language with a huge number of native speakers from different countries. Take the same hinglish, which also sounds "aggressive", but at the same time, people with such an accent play in a huge number of films and play well enough
2. Why is Yoda without explanations the norm for you, baby yoda without explanations from the Mandalorian too, but the Wookiee Jedi already needs to be beaten?
There are Wookiees, there are Jedi, in the Jedi temple, different races are constantly being trained among the Younglings, what should I explain?
3. Is your brilliant idea to make a good sister a good hairstyle, and an evil one a malicious one?? This is the height of banality, and it is far from the fact that this will be combined with the subsequent development of the themes and characters of the series
4. If you say "I'm not a racist ", and then say " everyone should be in their places ", then I'm sorry, dad, this is racism. In a universe where literally every city has a bunch of different races, saying that there is no place for a black man with dreadlocks is nonsense and racism.
fluffyevil
fluffyevil
08 Jun 20:18 #
@msev:
Вы куда-то не туда пошли. Я потомственный барнаулец и маму рот кино водил все 72 гендера и диверсити ради диверсити.

Но я категорически не понимаю, когда доёбываются до вещей, которые буквально были в РВ. Да, хатт-джедай тоже (хоть и пиздец как и вся арка Каллисты. Мадина убили, сволочи). Как вообще это должно шокировать фанатов, если они это уже видели/читали? Фанатиков, которые "ЗВ это только фильмы", я не учитываю, обитатели дурки мне не интересны.

Алсо после 15 лет смотрения вообще всего в оригинале, акцент Джондже не особо пугает.
Vernon_Roche
Vernon_Roche
PRO
08 Jun 15:03 # Show original
Honestly, I don't understand why everyone is talking so much about this series. Perhaps, of course, they say in me initially not too high expectations, but as for me, this is clearly not the worst thing that came out in the universe of stars. By the way, I am a long-time fan of hers, who began his acquaintance with her 25 years ago with the original trilogy, if anything
adoraboy
adoraboy
08 Jun 23:50 # Show original
@Vernon_Roche: No one hates ZV as much as the ZV fandom
Garet
Garet
09 Jun 12:36 # Show original
@Vernon_Roche: If even sasoka and obivan are not such a slag against the background of acolyte, then this is just a level, you need to try.
porco
porco
17 Jun 14:21 #
@Vernon_Roche: просто он очень плохой. Плохой не потому что "повесточка" и негры с китайцами, на это сейчас всем уже пофиг. Плохой он потому что он плохо снят. У него плохой сценарий, в котором картонные персонажи совершают нелогичные поступки, в нем плохие диалоги, в нём даже картинка очень скучная.
Он просто очень плохой.
Его делали без любви.
GritsanY
GritsanY
09 Jun 00:37 # Show original
And they also said that the director is not interested in the universe of stars and will shoot his vision. Only a fan, I believe, could leave such fat references - "I have a bad feeling about this", "she survived someone", seething sand, which is now clear why Anakin did not like
DarvTormen
DarvTormen
09 Jun 08:30 # Show original
@GritsanY: I have zero knowledge/understanding of what is there in the background of creation. But it seems to me that in this case these phrases were written by the screenwriters, and the director just called them out...
TopGun
TopGun
09 Jun 16:34 # Show original
Osha - mm, the crime scene, class, we urgently need to take evidence so that everyone thinks that I killed him!
GritsanY
GritsanY
09 Jun 19:37 # Show original
@TopGun: Yeah, I'm the one who's suspected of killing a Jedi.
Enchantresss
Enchantresss
PRO
10 Jun 21:59 # Show original
Mei is such a cool character that even Master Torbin, who hasn't talked to anyone for 10 years, decided to chat with her.
timerrekt
timerrekt
10 Jun 22:49 # Show original
@Cherik_daughter: Because of the events 16 years ago, he began to meditate with Mei and her family. He apologized, saying that he had been waiting for her and had taken poison.
Sheldon4446
Sheldon4446
10 Jun 23:58 # Show original
Critics liked the first episodes, but information has already appeared that the third episode will completely kill Star Wars. It sounds very intriguing.
So far, the series feels completely tasteless. After watching two episodes, there are absolutely no emotions.
msev
msev
PRO
12 Jun 17:51 # Show original
We brought a review of 2 episodes from the Black Cabinet channel. Apparently, not all critics liked the first episodes)) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am_g6T1pK88
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