The church and religion nowadays are just pop culture. A delightful revelation! All the vices of a thoroughly rotten church in one series. Dad goes to Jude Law.
@andre5000: A loud statement, so far unsupported by anything other than beautiful scenery. How is religion in "your time" different from religion in any other time? It seems to me that there will be no exposure at all, because the series clearly focuses on individual characters, and not on the church as a whole. And that's for the best. I still want to watch the show, not the sermon.
@MadMetHead: The church interprets religion for itself. Always. In the Middle Ages, for example, under the guise of religion, the church burned witches at the stake. Compare the different eras, and maybe you'll understand what I mean. This series is not so much about individual characters, as each character embodies a certain vice.
@andre5000: 1. Analyzing the influence of religion on pop culture is a great topic for a PhD. It has probably already been defended several times, and the sections "Comparison of different eras" occupy hundreds of pages of scientific work in them. If you are familiar with this topic, then use links to authoritative sources or quotes from them in your provocative comments. In this case, ignorant people like me will not annoy you and question your awareness of this issue. 2. The theory about a certain vice is quite interesting. Meanwhile, in the second episode, the main characters have a "mysterious past," which means that a deeper character reveal should follow, and then try to isolate something specific from it. But what will be the main problem - philosophical arguments about religion or the usual confrontation of people in unusual settings - depends on the plot.
@MadMetHead: No, no, it's the influence of pop culture on religion that's interesting, not the other way around. I'm sorry if you misled yourself. I don't understand why my, as you say, "provocative" comments on the website about the series were so agitated, although... yes, I am an atheist and a psychologist, and I am proud of it. And it is appropriate to demand some evidence on a topic that does not concern cinematography, except in scientific forums. And here I come to rest, which I wish you too!
@squark: With this ridiculous comment, you are making it clear that you cannot comprehend and master what I have written. And if there is something constructive, please contact us! Yes, and we haven't switched to you yet. Watch all the episodes that have been released so far, and go back to what you wrote, maybe you'll see a different angle.
@andre5000: You have a ridiculous comment, because you draw the basis for your point of view from the box. Where are the revelations, some kind of pretentious, unfounded shit sucked out of the finger. It's fine if it applied to the Borgias, but it was a different era, and the actions of contemporaries in the person of the papal family corresponded to it. Better read about Pope Francis, or Pope John Paul II. And find the parallels shown in the series. We're discussing modern Catholics here, aren't we?
@andre5000: I haven't touched on the doctrinal side yet, because Pope Pius XIII would have lost his tiara instantly for his carts, right in the first episode.
If I couldn't figure out what it was all about during the first episode, then I got involved in the second one. It's very interesting what Dad will do next, watching him is a pleasure for both the eyes and the mind :)
WHOA! That's the ending of the series... Beautifully wrapped - such a mirror image of the beginning of the first episode. Very cool. I can't wait to find out what will happen next.
Maybe I didn't understand something, but Dad's speech looked like a complete failure. That's probably why it was chosen, so that it would be easy to manage. But surely, as usual, gg will surprise everyone)
great episode, Dad's speech at the end is strong. as they say, people worship a man (in this case, the Pontiff), not God. Jude Law looks very decent in his role, a charismatic actor.
Damn, the ending is something. Dad's arrogance is pouring out of him in gallons, but there's something to it. As my friend said, he's the only one who can be forgiven. Definitely worth watching the series. To my shame, I was very surprised that Dad was so strict, but then I think that's exactly what we need in our time. All this fixation on the bright and all-accepting... In general, there is such a sharp contrast at the end that makes people really think - or maybe we are doing something wrong? Maybe you should be stricter towards yourself and others?
@Atomic: I once answered an exam at the institute without taking my eyes off a piece of paper, the teachers did not interrupt, they listened to everything honestly, and then decided to scold, they say, anyone can take a piece of paper, but it's empty. Considering that I knew and thought about these teachers specifically, it just made it easier for me to concentrate.
This is something incredible! I never thought that you could make something so cool about religion, Dad, and everything. Jude Law is simply irresistible. I really liked the first episode, but the second one is much more. Every scene is just perfect!
I was a little disappointed at the moment about "he's a homosexual, he's fired" - I didn't expect that after the excitement of the series, but we'll see. The ending is very strange, but strong.
Esquire begins episode-by-episode analysis of Paolo Sorrentino's series "The Young Pope". The author is Slava Shvets, an art critic and expert on the cultural heritage of the Vatican. Episode Two: The "invisible" Dad and the kangaroo: https://esquire.ru/young-pope-episode-2
The Pope's strong speech, albeit ambiguous. In general, the two episodes caused me mixed feelings, Pius' actions are somewhat inconsistent, incomprehensible, and they cause rejection. But that's their attraction. It's interesting to see what Dad's strategy boils down to. And although the series is not about the church and religion as such, but more about its ministers, and individuals, I would like to think that the series will be worthy. At least Jude Law's acting is simply incredible, and the efforts of the cameramen and directors can only please.
And I really liked the initial speech about love.> But it was immediately clear that he would not say it and blurt out something of his own that few people would like. Well, a thunderstorm, yes. Symbolic.
It's an ambiguous series for me, I can't quite make up my mind about my impressions. On the one hand, we have a good understanding of the Vatican, the greedy elders and their rules. On the other hand, chewing, tediousness, licking the new Dad (that's what a good guy he is, even with his stuff on his shoulders). The series itself was shot with high quality, the actors' acting is excellent. But, perhaps, here I will have the same thing as with House of Cards — this kind of series does not catch on (
That's right - the cardinal's speech about love is meant to charm the flock, and the Pope's speech is meant to disappoint, in order to remove blind worship and lead a person to an inner search. I wish our patriarchs and politicians would do that))
the speech at the end and its gloominess, just like the dictator on the balcony. The camerawork is excellent and Dad's speech is a masterpiece, to the point of goosebumps!
It seems to me that Lenny's speech was not addressed to people, but to himself. We have heard from him more than once that he does not see God, and in front of the confessor he even "joked" that he did not believe in him. He doubts his faith, cannot find it himself, and painfully tries to find God.
the first episode was very confusing and unclear, but the second one surprised and captivated the speech is just great, and how Lenny responded to the girl responsible for the media was just a delight.
The pope was disappointed that he used his power to violate the secrecy of confession, spy on people and use this information to put his henchmen in good places. :// Vindictive, arrogant, petty, self-centered, narcissistic...
I haven't figured out what the joke of the series is yet. It looks interesting, but it's too slow. GG should arouse sympathy, but it only arouses disgust. Like most of the characters. The one I liked was the First Secretary. I'm just looking forward to something interesting.
I liked the series much more than the last one, because at least we have already immersed ourselves in the context and understand in general terms what is happening here. The ending is gorgeous and simple. A speech based on a child's drawing is strong) Jude Law really looks as organic as possible in her role.
Is it just me, or is it like a fortress? at the moment, with "no one loves me," a thought crept in, and when he said "you don't deserve me," the opinion strengthened. It's funny)
Still, the censorship is amazing. Okay, we cut out half of the opening speech in the first episode. What is the point of deleting the question of whether the cardinal is a homosexual? It's just awful.
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67This series is not so much about individual characters, as each character embodies a certain vice.
2. The theory about a certain vice is quite interesting. Meanwhile, in the second episode, the main characters have a "mysterious past," which means that a deeper character reveal should follow, and then try to isolate something specific from it. But what will be the main problem - philosophical arguments about religion or the usual confrontation of people in unusual settings - depends on the plot.
Watch all the episodes that have been released so far, and go back to what you wrote, maybe you'll see a different angle.
Better read about Pope Francis, or Pope John Paul II. And find the parallels shown in the series. We're discussing modern Catholics here, aren't we?
Jude Law looks very decent in his role, a charismatic actor.
5 out of 5.
To my shame, I was very surprised that Dad was so strict, but then I think that's exactly what we need in our time. All this fixation on the bright and all-accepting... In general, there is such a sharp contrast at the end that makes people really think - or maybe we are doing something wrong? Maybe you should be stricter towards yourself and others?
Considering that I knew and thought about these teachers specifically, it just made it easier for me to concentrate.
I never thought that you could make something so cool about religion, Dad, and everything.
Jude Law is simply irresistible.
I really liked the first episode, but the second one is much more. Every scene is just perfect!
The ending is very strange, but strong.
Episode Two: The "invisible" Dad and the kangaroo: https://esquire.ru/young-pope-episode-2
It's interesting to see what Dad's strategy boils down to.
And although the series is not about the church and religion as such, but more about its ministers, and individuals, I would like to think that the series will be worthy.
At least Jude Law's acting is simply incredible, and the efforts of the cameramen and directors can only please.
But it was immediately clear that he would not say it and blurt out something of his own that few people would like. Well, a thunderstorm, yes. Symbolic.
On the one hand, we have a good understanding of the Vatican, the greedy elders and their rules. On the other hand, chewing, tediousness, licking the new Dad (that's what a good guy he is, even with his stuff on his shoulders).
The series itself was shot with high quality, the actors' acting is excellent. But, perhaps, here I will have the same thing as with House of Cards — this kind of series does not catch on (
"You fucking genius son of a bitch
I just finished watching "Holy Mike," and Jude Law is here with his "you can't smoke."
the speech is just great, and how Lenny responded to the girl responsible for the media
was just a delight.
Vindictive, arrogant, petty, self-centered, narcissistic...
"Help us, Pipita." - this phrase does not apply to the series. It's really time to save Juve.)