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s02e17 — Wounds and Scars

Twin Peaks — s02e17 — Wounds and Scars

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Duration: 56 min.
Released: 28.03.199128.03.1991 17:00
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2 season
s02e17
s02e13 - Checkmate
s02e14 - Double Play
s02e15 - Slaves and Masters
s02e16 - The Condemned Woman
s02e17 - Wounds and Scars
s02e18 - On the Wings of Love
s02e19 - Variations and Relations
s02e20 - The Path to the Black Lodge
s02e21 - Miss Twin Peaks

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Вереск
Вереск
01 May 2015, 00:59 #
Влюблённый Дейл, что может быть прекрасней?
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nataliyazh
nataliyazh
06 Jun 2017, 02:19 #
@Heather: In love with Audrey Dale
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SayLegendary
SayLegendary
05 May 2015, 23:19 #
Как хоть мистер Пинкл вообще мог додуматься пихнуть эту ласку прямо в лицо Тремейну? А вот реакция людей на сбежавшую ласку позабавила :D
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MARxLENin
MARxLENin
19 Jul 2015, 03:08 #
@SayLegendary: Реакция людей на сбежавшего зверька бесит. Будто в дешевой детской комедии.
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2pac
2pac
11 Jun 2015, 01:54 #
Купер перестал делать заметки в диктофон,а я надеялся хоть увидеть ту Диану. Интересно кто это.
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S1S13AF7
S1S13AF7
28 Jun 2015, 08:12 #
@2pac: его-же отстранили, он теперь уже почти как местный.
Вон даже в библиотекари, ой, тоесть в читальню взяли.
и "с местной полиции", "Вы на долго к нам?"
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Yana_Andrusenko
Yana_Andrusenko
07 Jun 2016, 20:54 #
@2pac: я думала, это имя его диктофона
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UrHomie
UrHomie
02 Feb 2017, 21:36 #
@2pac: ассистентка, и нет, не увидите
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Solegus
Solegus
12 Jul 2017, 08:20 #
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lyusya86
lyusya86
20 Mar 2022, 17:23 #
@2pac: может быть в 3м сезоне?
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id268457930
id268457930
04 Jul 2015, 18:46 #
Не бывать паре Одри и Агента Купера(
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id31828880
id31828880
16 Jul 2015, 17:51 #
@id268457930: А как жаль
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shurfiada
shurfiada
21 Jul 2015, 06:12 #
@id31828880: да ну. Купер, мне кажется, слишком стар и слишком джентльмен, чтобы со старшеклассницей водиться :)
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vk373451
vk373451
02 Aug 2015, 13:54 #
@shurfiada: зато, как они мило выглядели с:
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Stekliashkina_ua
Stekliashkina_ua
05 Dec 2016, 21:20 #
@shurfiada: это была официальная отмазка

А вообще ход с Одри планировался, но на тот момент Маклахлен встречался с барышней, которая играла Тину.
Она очень ревновала и была против линии с Одри. Аргументом её было то, что "Купер, мне кажется, слишком стар и слишком джентльмен, чтобы со старшеклассницей водиться :)".
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Irena_Turner
Irena_Turner
10 Feb 2017, 14:11 #
@Stekliashkina_ua: Он встречался с Ларой Бойл, которая играет Донну. Какая Тина?
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Stekliashkina_ua
Stekliashkina_ua
10 Feb 2017, 19:35 #
@Irena_Turner: сорян, перепутала имена. Да, я имела в виду Донну.
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Mr_Persik
Mr_Persik
08 Jun 2017, 03:07 #
@Stekliashkina_ua: Как с Джеймсом на экране мутить, так ей норм, а как на том же экране её парень будет с другой - та не =)
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Solegus
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12 Jul 2017, 08:22 #
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SophietheValiant
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23 Feb 2022, 20:13 #
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SophietheValiant
SophietheValiant
23 Feb 2022, 20:12 #
@id268457930: ну да... он ей в отцы годится, ну или в старшие братья, какие нахуй шашни с 18-леткой, але? ему 35, 36 лет, посчитайте. на нее итак уже свой отец чуть ли не напал, ну, можно сказать, что и напал в том борделе, только до самого дела, до секса с ней не дошел. прекращайте свои эти воздыхания по малолеткам, это фу. как ни почитай комментарии, так по половине людей в этих дискуссиях тюрьма плачет, за растление несовершеннолетних.
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SeraFimaSoynova
SeraFimaSoynova
08 Sep 2022, 01:28 #
Не знаю, сколько Энни по сюжету, но актрисе было 20 лет на тот момент, так что разницы нет особо, не ровесницу встретил.
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kate_archer
kate_archer
15 Sep 2022, 12:53 #
@SophietheValiant: Кайлу до предыдущей серии был 31 год, начиная с этой - 32 (по датам выхода). Только дети могут считать разницу в 13 лет существенной, хватит уже писать, что он ей в отцы и деды годится. Она умна и развита не по годам, их психологический возраст вообще не сильно отличается. Уж лучше настоящие чувства в такой паре, чем "лишь бы было", зато с ровесниками. Эйджизм задолбал.
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SophietheValiant
SophietheValiant
16 Oct 2022, 13:28 #
@kate_archer: че за хуйню я щас прочитал! тринадцать лет разница существенная! вы мне тут педофилию не пихайте. заблокировать вас!
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BoomGrowl
BoomGrowl
20 Jan 2016, 06:47 #
как бы я ни любила Одри и Дейла Купера,все же видеть счастливыми этих героев пусть даже и не вместе - уже счастье )
P.S во всяком случае они не умерли ;)
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rollingroland
rollingroland
15 Feb 2016, 01:30 #
одри: был, но уже нет. никого нет. никого.

моё сердце уже не собрать воедино
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kalante
kalante
22 Apr 2016, 00:14 #
Смотришь на целующихся Билли Зейна и Шерилин Фенн и с грустью понимаешь, что они оба снялись у Невского...
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Yana_Andrusenko
Yana_Andrusenko
07 Jun 2016, 02:01 #
В пещере сов как-то Индианой Джонсом запахло:D
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Kitaelaki
Kitaelaki
27 Aug 2016, 22:21 #
Купер смог в трифорс :D
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Ikar
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17 Jun 2017, 02:33 #
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Victory_s
Victory_s
28 May 2017, 02:39 #
Одри и Купер с кем-то другим вообще не смотрятся=( так жалко...
сцена в конце просто не реальная какая-то, это же самій крутой помошник шерифа, а тут его так просто вырубили...
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Daisy_May
Daisy_May
06 Jun 2017, 19:04 #
Интересно, Надин в зеркало совсем не смотрится? Если бы смотрелась, ее бы удивило, что выглядит она совсем не на 18 и левого глаза у нее нет.
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Mr_Persik
Mr_Persik
08 Jun 2017, 03:07 #
@maramaxwell05: только в туфли)
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solncanet
solncanet
21 Jun 2017, 18:49 #
Да, и не понятно, как Надин умывалась по утрам, не замечая, что нет глаза... нелепо как-то, но забавно))))
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Solegus
Solegus
12 Jul 2017, 08:50 #
@solncanet: Думаю, для психических расстройств такое характерно... т.е., в упор не замечать какие-то детали в пользу построенной в мозгу бредовой идеи (в данном случае, что взрослая женщина является школьницей). Ведь даже смотря просто в зеркало – она не может не видеть (пусть и одним глазом), что она на вид уже далеко не ученица...
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sabjulia
sabjulia
12 Dec 2019, 04:47 #
@Solegus: да она и окружающих видела так же, Норму и мужа тоже принимала за сверстников.
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SaburovaG
SaburovaG
10 Aug 2017, 16:25 #
As a Dale and Audrey schipper, I had a hard time with the kiss scene
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chch93
chch93
01 Sep 2017, 03:12 #
Whatever you say, but visually Josie and Harry were a very beautiful couple, such chemistry. I feel sorry for him, our fool, who is now suffering from betrayal and loss. Such a big explosion, just wow. "For those who find it hard to love, they love too much" - that's the truth. An interesting phrase is that their quiet town is supposedly now the same as the whole world - with lies on every corner. Finally, Mr. Badalamenti and I got together and I liked this autumn blues, I usually don't really understand the choice of his musical parts for the scenes.
"Spit over your left shoulder" Hawk is my idol.
Oh, these cute awkwardness and sparks between Jack and Audrey are so good. And then they're so beautiful sitting on a picnic, and I thought longingly about Cooper. The couple write well, they are good together, but Audrey and Cooper had a highlight, there was a confrontation and the inability to simultaneously refuse her on his part, and her passion to solve his riddle, and their common adventurism...Oh, they fucked up such a couple for nothing, not just.
I'm laughing-Lucy has found a new way to take out Andy's brain. Through the chess knight XD
, "I think I'm blind in my left eye" Nadine in the last episodes is epic +100500, I scream just from her appearances in the voice. And their couple with Mike will fly away, too, Bonnie and Clyde.
"When you hold hands, you can't clench your fists" Shelly was so funny and for the first time I liked her. It's unexpected that she doesn't consider herself crass, it's even strange, she's awesome.
Who was it with Donna's mother? Ben Horn? Windom Earle? And...why? It will also turn out that she can walk.
Mmm, Dale was given a blonde with severe internal problems, mmm. Five episodes before the end of the season, mmm.
Isn't that Josie in the assistant's body?..
I got bored again without perfume and Black Wigwams.
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Arrivera
Arrivera
14 Oct 2017, 23:01 #
@chch93: It was a big discovery for me about Shelly that she doesn't consider herself beautiful. Nothing foreshadowed the whole series))
Isn't the blonde too young for Cooper? Although they are all so well made up that I can hardly distinguish schoolgirls from mothers of families) In general, how many new characters can be introduced before the finale ...
+ a lot to the pair of Cooper and Audrey. They looked and played so beautifully that everyone else can't get over it.
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chch93
chch93
15 Oct 2017, 01:48 #
@Arrivera: I also thought so about Annie, but she seems to be of age, so they won't put her in jail. XD I lamented a lot about Audrey and Cooper, but then I read that the actors had a conflict there: Lara Flynn Boyle, who plays Donna, then I met with Kyle McLachlan, and allegedly was against it, to write love to him and Sherilyn, so Kyle said that Cooper would not have an affair with such a young girl. I don't know if this is true, but the fact that they were abruptly cut off is a fact.
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Arrivera
Arrivera
15 Oct 2017, 02:25 #
@chch93: I read about it too! Because of this, Donna pisses me off even more)) I read that in general, Lara Flynn Boyle became a star because of her popularity in the series and the rest of the series could hardly get along with her, and yes, that Cooper's planned romance with Audrey was filmed because of this. And so I'm absolutely sure that he should have been there for the reason that a lot of screen time was spent on developing the relationship, and in such a thoughtful series (at least before Leland's death) nothing happens by chance, especially several episodes in a row - it clearly seems to me that they took a long time and carefully brought to the agent's affair with Audrey (indirectly indicates that only Audrey is initially presented to us as a fatal beauty, experienced in relationships and manipulations by men, all the others are either more or less ordinary schoolgirls or married women; accordingly, unique
a smart and sexy woman and a unique smart and sexy man, that's the best Twin Peaks love story). To be honest, if they really went along with Lara Flynn Boyle then, then this is complete wildness...
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Arrivera
Arrivera
14 Oct 2017, 22:52 #
I really liked the scene in which Cooper calmed the sheriff down. And Hawk had brought food to the sheriff before that, and before that, everyone was trying to keep the sheriff from the truth about Josie. I like this humane concern for each other, even Albert got into it)
The fashion show is some kind of complete surrealism and farce from the opening speech and the garlanded totem (or whatever wooden one stands there) to this animal and the panic inexplicable to the inhabitants of a small town - they live next to the forest, fish, owls fly out, for them animals should not be something outstanding, if it's not a wolf or a bear)
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alla_la
alla_la
07 Jan 2019, 20:57 #
Norma's sister looks about 16 years old, and Cooper looked at her like he was in love. She's beautiful, of course, but it's wrong :) You can't take him with a girl who suddenly came to town
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sabjulia
sabjulia
12 Dec 2019, 04:50 #
@alla_la: It's Heather Graham! She doesn't really look like herself here.
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lyusya86
lyusya86
20 Mar 2022, 17:29 #
@alla_la: I don't like Annie. It doesn't fit Cooper
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Jammm
Jammm
05 Mar 03:17 #
Apparently, Cooper likes young girls :) Well, charming beauties, almost all the women here are very pretty.
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sabjulia
sabjulia
12 Dec 2019, 06:54 #
I barely recognized Bryce's mom in Jones out of 13 reasons.
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sabjulia
sabjulia
12 Dec 2019, 07:13 #
Heather (Annie) is beautiful, of course, but I didn't notice the chemistry between her and Cooper.
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Ottawa31
Ottawa31
06 Feb 2020, 01:21 #
My heart is broken.

The Dale Cooper and Audrey Horn line was beautifully crafted. We all saw a spark, a whole flame that grew with each new episode when our dear characters met. Even a blind man could see the attraction between them, the passion. In their words, looks, and movements. When Cooper saved her, it was just the best. How worried he was, how he cared. Audrey reminded him of his lost love, but she also made him forget, returning long-lost feelings. We were gradually introduced into these complex interactions, revealing the characters even more. A well-thought-out romantic line. What now?

We lost everything because of the sheer unprofessionalism of one woman, and the actors wanted to continue. I need a mate everywhere, but then I won't be able to write comments anymore, pha.

And now they're giving us left-hand stalls for Cooper and Audrey. There is nothing in this new relationship. They are empty. Are you saying that Cooper fell in love with Annie right away? A man who spent his whole life blaming himself for letting the love of his life (as he said) slip away, did not hope for a family, and then meets Audrey, who touches some parts of his soul with each new step. When she was kidnapped, we all saw Dale, words are powerless. and now. Do they give us this?

Uuu, I cannot describe the storm that is in my soul.

To lose such a pair.... My heart broke into little pieces. And the moments with their new partners are like a bulldozer through these fragments.
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jj_cas
jj_cas
09 Apr 2020, 07:11 #
Donna-Mom and Dad are not at home, come in!🤦🏽‍♀️🔫
What does Horn have in common with Donna's mom?!🧐🤔
These signs remind us of something, I don't know what🤦🏽♀️
Harry-go on!😂
What kind of gift was it for Catherine🤔
A wildlife expert puts a ferret in a person's face🤦🏽♀️ they also love to bite the nose, lips, lobes, how could a pro not know this🤦🏽♀️
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vk391697
vk391697
13 May 2020, 07:33 #
The scar on the leg of the woman with the log reminded me of the emblem of this secret circle of readers. Maybe it's just a coincidence, of course.
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morze_polnocne
morze_polnocne
04 Jul 2020, 22:07 #
@vk391697: isn't it just an emblem of the city? Twin peaks — literally "two peaks". At the entrance to the city there is also a sign with the image of two mountains.
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Nas1k
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17 May 2020, 20:19 #
why didn't anyone write about Andy as a model?)))
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SophietheValiant
SophietheValiant
23 Feb 2022, 20:32 #
Донна дура, ебанулась, нет? То есть пару недель назад или сколько там дней назад ее лучшую подругу насиловал и убил собственный отец, который потом пытался ее же тоже убить, чуть ли не задушил, а она радостно открывает чужим людям двери собственного дома? Я бы нахер заколотила все двери и окна в своей квартире, если бы со мной случилась хоть капелька такого ужаса, что в этом ебанном Твин Пиксе происходит каждый долбаный день. Кто там пишет сценарии, почему у женщин не видно психологических флешбеков, каких-либо психологических штуковин, тот же птср в этом сериале? Такое ощущение, будто бы они все куклы или проститутки, а парни вот да, они чуть что, сразу в слезы. Непорядок.
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lyusya86
lyusya86
20 Mar 2022, 17:32 #
Everyone writes about Audrey and Cooper
And I like the couple Nadine and Michael. They're so cute
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lyusya86
lyusya86
20 Mar 2022, 17:36 #
Am I the only one confused that Windom is quietly wandering around the city, past Cooper and no one notices him?
Is it impossible to hang a sketch around the city?
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kate_archer
kate_archer
15 Sep 2022, 12:46 #
@lyusya86: так он же маскируется. Я вот его через раз узнаю
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Demausol
Demausol
22 May 2022, 12:37 #
Как же мне больно за Дейла и Одри. Ну это что вообще такое??
Не понимаю, в чем проблема этой романтической линии, почему многие пишут, что он ей в отцы годится? Але, какие отцы, они даже выглядят как ровесники, ну может Купер чуть старше. Да и Одри все время повторяет, что ей 18. Да, тут уже дело принципа Купера, что мол влюбляться снова не хочет и т.д. Ну так вас никто и не подгонял, оставили бы все как есть, с этими неловкими взглядами и загадочными разговорами.
Не верю, что Одри всерьез увлеклась Джеком, если бы я встретила такого человека, как Дейл Купер, то все мои мысли были бы заняты тем, как разгадать его. И линия с Энни мне не понятна, или вы хотите сказать, что она намного старше Одри? Пипец, мозг взрывается, сейчас на митинг пойду, чтобы вернули все как есть.
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Irson
Irson
14 Dec 2022, 09:36 #
Cooper and the sheriff are already like brothers, so touchingly one comforted the other. Dale can be broken down into quotes - a man who hardly falls in love loves too much.
My heart is bursting with the sheriff, really, you're not the only one who doesn't understand anything, Harry 💕
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Tsykin
Tsykin
19 Apr 2023, 20:36 #
Ни одной сцены с Джеймсом и сразу так интересно смотрится
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