And why again disperse the topic of Otis and Ruby, as friends they look much more harmonious. So, after the second series, I became convinced that I definitely don't like Eric's new group)
@shirrrmm: I agree, in all other respects, this season does not fit me at all (They wrote to the first series that they were able to preserve the atmosphere, but as for me, it is just not enough. I specially reviewed three seasons before that, and the difference feels drastic. And the Groff family is just about the only thing that remains the same as before. (Separately, I would like to note how infuriating it is for me that Eric does not remember Adam at all)
the new school is too unrealistic. I can't believe there are such things. new characters do not cling, many old ones already too. The maeve stuffy line…
But it seems to me that they deliberately exaggerated everything to the maximum. We decided to make fun of what is happening with them now. After all, there is a limit to everything, and, for sure, they are concerned about this. I believe that there are sane minds everywhere who try to bring uncomfortable issues to the surface, no matter how taboo it is by society or the state. In fact, things are even more difficult for us with this. But anyway, it's cool that the world is changing all the time. I am for any trends except war and poverty (ignorance). P.S.: To be honest, Maeve was partly motivated to write =) it is interesting to watch how writers become writers
Oh my God, what I didn't expect in this series is I wanna be your dog at the end! New characters do not cause sympathy, but old ones are revealed due to them, so I think a decent ending will come out of this) At least I hope so :)
It's pretty boring so far. The new kringe school, Moordale at least looked like a school in some ways, but here you don't understand what at all. The characters are new and generally uninteresting, the line with Maeve is also so-so, two series have passed, at least events. I hope it will be better from now on.
@kobiii: it's not true, murdale was always hyperbolized too, in the first season people fucked everywhere, in the season where there was a new headmistress it was impossible strictly, they walked literally along the lines, so this school is not so realistic
The thing about the series was that it was kind of out of time. It was like the 80s, 70s and 90s combined, but with phones and the Internet. This season, this super modern school is out of the style of the series and the series has lost its vibe. New characters are generally passing by, not interesting. The total mass of students look like they are mentally retarded. The intrigue of who will remain of the two therapists of the school is not an intrigue at all, but apparently they will keep the season on this. It's boring, it's good that this is the last season.
Apparently, this is the beginning of Emma Mackie's departure from the series. But it's great that she appeared at least like that. I was afraid that neither she nor Jokey would be there at all. The new school increasingly seems to be something fantastic, which simply cannot be in reality. And in this case, it's never a compliment. I wanna be your dog in the end credits pleased.
Even the writer is kind of muddy, I wouldn't be surprised if he passes off Maeve's work as his own. Somehow, the clientele quickly ran away to Otis, I thought it would take longer to walk restless, but they decided to mess up the versus battle of the British spill
It wasn't mentioned, but outwardly, he looks very much like a girl who took in a lot of testosterone) Women's legs… I can't be sure, but that's my guess + someone wrote in the comments below that Roman is played by a transgender actor.
If I remember correctly, Maeve and Jackson dated in the first season and Jackson asked Otis for advice about their relationship, and then Maeve fell in love with Otis.
Hmm, I found the first episode quite interesting, but the second one is kind of... I don't know, it's weird or something. the school really looks as unrealistic as possible. long-distance relationships are trash... I don't wish it on anyone. I wonder what kind of story O has, because Ruby found out about it, and I think it's for a reason. I also think that this professor can take Maeve's work and pass it off as his own. It's too cloudy. This is the kind of thing where you create an "idol" for yourself, and it turns out to be rotten.
@hunny-bunny: the school does not look realistic in any reality.Just for example, I studied in both British and American schools, and apart from the education system, there is no difference with schools from the post-soviet period, the same bullying and bullying, gossip and caste division.The same mooredale is closer to a typical British school than what is being shown to us now, where everything is for everything good against everything bad.
Watching the first season, I would never have guessed my favorite character...But Adam! Ah, my heart aches for my boy. I share his feelings in every possible way and hope that he will find himself, start smiling again and get out of this deepest longing.
I support and sympathize with Mr. Groff, but his antics at the table... he was noticeably rude, maybe without meaning it. to kill Adam's newly appeared hopes for something good, devaluing his little pride in himself. objectively, it is true that sometimes love alone is not enough, you need to earn something, but you can not put pressure on the child, doing everything gradually. I was a little disappointed by his careless remarks.
this is probably one of the most interesting topics in the series for me. I hope that their relationship will start to improve a little bit. The driving lessons gave me a little bit of hope.
Humor is so good sometimes! Although it's often too awkward, that's probably what makes it catchy. 🙈
I don't understand what's going on with Isaac and Maeve, but it's interesting, oddly enough
I love therapist O, and it's fun to watch them fight Otis. I hope that at the end of the season Adam will be a pro with horses and cars. this farm will definitely benefit him more than the school. a kind of occupational therapy and Aimee is happy to watch
Who are Abby and Roman anyway, a girl and a boy, right?.. I understand, it's purely a question of the grandmother, but Abby didn't understand about the transition
I'm also a grandmother and I asked myself this question. I Googled that the presonage of Abby is played by a trans actress, so it was said about the transition in this series And the character of the Novel is played by a trans actor 😶
@auestik: Be careful with assumptions, you're stigmatizing them and you may hurt their tender feelings. Maybe they're not people, but helicopter gunships)
@jensenjar: or they could just divide the days and take turns. Moreover, the therapist's personality is very important in such matters. It can't be that absolutely everyone is comfortable with O or absolutely everyone with Otis. It would be great if students could choose who to go to with their problems. who is more comfortable and free to talk to.
I was so upset when Ruby and Otis broke up last season, if they try to bring them together again now, and at the end Otis runs off to Maeve again, it will be like a knife to the heart.☹️
I do not know, I really liked Jackson's character, and even now it does not cause negativity, plus the Groff family line is very interesting and, I would say, touching to the soul, especially the father, who seems to be trying, but it doesn't work out very well.
I've always liked Ruby, but this season she looks like she's 10 years older than her REAL age. I think it's about makeup, but they're really not very...
The teacher-writer annoys me, I don't believe him, he's kind of nasty.
Maeve and Otis are no longer particularly interested and happy.
And the troika is the "elite" of this school, in general, kringe. I can't just start with them, they're all so fake to the point of horror
Eric's new friends - well, borscht, the whole college is borscht 😂 How many colors, how much freedom of speech. But at the same time, these are all restrictions and limits covered by freedom. 🥲
Maeve, along with the new ones, is still the most repulsive, the college itself is also "empty", I think the season will accelerate, but the beginning is weak
The second episode somehow did not please. In general, this season is somewhat far-fetched. It feels like in the middle of last season, half of the cast decided to dump the series and they quickly staged a brawl at school and sold it, the line with Jacob was also leaked (where did this biker come from, how did Jean not remember about him when she got pregnant?) As if everything was done in a hurry. The new school seems to be freer than the last one, but at the same time it looks like some kind of plastic. It is very sad that Eric's character has not changed for the better for the second season (
I don't quite understand the mix with sexologists - why should I stay alone? Two are more convenient: someone is more comfortable with O, someone with Otis
I'm sorry, but one thing seems to me that Otis is merging his own relationships? He's a great sexologist and has helped a lot, but why doesn't he take into account the mistakes of the past and talk about his feelings with Maeve? (And if he does, it's at the very end) As in the first episode, as in this one, he screwed himself up in both cases and makes Maeve ride in an emotional swing. I also didn't listen to Eric, it's more important for him to be someone in this school. I really love the character of Otis from previous seasons and understood why he made mistakes, but now it's like the character isn't growing and it's a little frustrating for me.
Perhaps I misunderstood, I will be glad for the opinion of others.
Just because he helps others does not mean that he himself will become an ideal being. For example, just like his mom. Besides, it's more convenient to see the situation and consult from the outside, and when you're inside it, it's much more difficult. That's often why people go to psychologists and so on.
maybe I'm too old for this shit, but I don't understand the meaning of this sexologist battle at all. it looks ridiculous and childish, but they seem to strive for professionalism. someone is more comfortable with a female therapist, someone with a man, it still depends on the personality why feud if you can compete well?
Adam is the sun from the second season, which is shining brighter and brighter for me. For the rest, I can say that it's good that the season is extreme, because you can see how they pull it out of their fingers. I wish Raphael was here, I liked him. Everyone else has become faded, and the new characters are not the same at all, maybe I've grown up🤷♀️
Otis's feud with O is Funny If Adam doesn't do well by the end of the season, the writers will burn in hell. Aimee and Isaac's line is weird, even though I like Isaac. Can someone remind me, please, where Ola and Lily have gone?
@myatezhka: well, since Ola's father left Otis' mother after learning that the child was not his, then Ola left with him too, and Lily with Ola, so there is no need to show them, because they are not related to anyone else except Otis, Jean and Joy, Ola was not even friends with someone from Maeve, Aimee, or Ruby, well, maybe she was friends with Adam, but that friendship was leaked...
Oh, I can already imagine a Ruby-style election campaign-to dig up some shit about Oh, especially considering that they do know each other. As a result, everything will turn into a dirty game, where both will be injured, quarrel with their friends, then in the end they realize they are wrong, shake hands and there will be two clinics in the school.
but it would seem that it would be possible to just make two clinics at once and not arrange this kindergarten with a monopoly, and who was the first to come up with it?
Joan is certainly as strange as possible. The house is in shit, I don't have enough hands, I'm on edge, but I absolutely won't accept help. She replaced her husband with her son, imposed daddy duties on the schoolboy, and was also unhappy with his decision to call his aunt for help. Moreover, she is clearly burdened by the state of things, she wants to work, not that she is just a super-caring mother hen. Well, if you don't want a sister, take a babysitter, a housemaid, why is that all?
It's painful to watch the already fragile relationship between Otis and Maeve crumble. And of course, we are being hinted at opaquely that a teacher who has written his name will steal her work and pass it off as his own.
I really feel for Jackson, the actor is acting great. Adam's line is interesting, I want him to finally find a common language with his father, it's obvious that the guy is attracted to him.
And only Eric is doing relatively well) Persona and actor - sunny! I love how he fades over Otis, his sincerity and kindness.
@juliakey: Stealing the best practices is fine, but what prevents me is that the teacher looks like the teacher from Life is Strange, if you know what I mean.
Adam is one of my favorite characters, and it's so nice to watch his life get better little by little. Mr. Groff is a real dad, but I'm personally very happy that he's trying. Yes, the realization came to him after the family fell apart, but better late. And I really like Mrs. Groff because she supports Adam and doesn't put pressure on him. I would not like to compare them with a good and an evil policeman, but she seems to be very carefully instructing her son. In the last episode, it was beautiful: don't you want to study? Don't study. Just do something in life. And she didn't press him with a choice. In general, I really hope that Adam will be fine. I want him to finally allow himself to be himself and not live up to anyone's expectations.
That everyone is clinging to the new school? Why is it called plastic? New technologies, interesting designs, lots of entertainment - as far as I'm concerned, it's a dream, not a school. What kind of people study there is the second question, and it's at least stupid to shit on the school for this. And new students (as if you and I were invited to study there) have a choice of how to behave and who to support.
@valdislava: because even though all the students look like friendly, positive and correct people from the point of view of modern wake culture, in fact they do not express any human emotions, just smile, send positive messages and (I'm sure) fake and fake worry for others. and the design of this school is just as correct-iridescent, but in fact soulless and uninteresting. from there, there is a feeling of plasticity, as if you are looking at a bright and pretentiously dressed doll with empty, creepy eyes (hello to pediophobes, I'm sorry to the rest).
Eric was kissing another guy, and he told Adam about it, but despite the fact that Adam was ready to honor him, Eric broke up with him. Because Eric felt that he was more conscious than Adam, who was just beginning his journey of finding himself.
Too much time is spent squabbling and sorting out the relationship between Otis and Maeve, the rest of the characters are either scenery or 15 minutes of screen time. I don't really understand why Otis suddenly decided that O stole the idea from him, and indeed the whole struggle for the title of campus sexologist. In general, the season is not bad, but the rocking has been going on for too long...
It's a little creepy. Perhaps I lost the thread of the narrative and the very atmosphere of the series, because I watched season 3 more than a year ago. But I have some kind of rejection from season 4. I barely watched 1 episode. And I just started the second one, but I already have to speak out. All this fake that the showrunners are trying to pass off as reality, it's just too much. It is possible that the first 3 seasons have been erased in my memory, but, in my opinion, everything was not so beaten off and exaggerated. All these gender-neutral toilets, all painted gays and transgender people, in fact, there is no such thing. Literally every second. It's only on the screen. So why are they kidding themselves, trying to say that they are the majority? Like there's no room left in the series for the usual, albeit overly glamorous, beauty, since Ruby is now an outcast, and the elite are a couple of creepy trannies to whom everyone is afraid to say a word across?
Adam's line is really interesting. It's great that he's found something that he really likes and is willing to devote himself to, not everyone succeeds. I hope their relationship with their father will improve. It's obvious that it's hard for him.
the new school is really VERY unusual. I do not want to say that it is somehow bad, because it gives a lot of opportunities for self-realization and the manifestation of individuality, but in order to study there, you need to be ready for it. in my opinion, this is not about a spontaneous decision. For example, it's hard for people like Ruby to be there. well, there are clearly disadvantages. For example, the moment where the guys put candles for Abby's relationship is mega weird. and in general, such a huge involvement of a large number of people in the personal lives of others looks artificial and very stressful.
Yes, I liked the characters from the first season right away, there was something so interesting about them, the new characters from the fourth don't catch on, maybe they'll be revealed a little later, but the end of the series is coming, we'll see, we'll see.
Somewhere in the back of my mind, I'm just glad that this is the last season. It would have been better if they had stopped after the third one. Otis looks like an adult man, most of the storylines are sucked out of his fingers, only Adam's relationship with his father is interesting.
I was very pleased that Michael has changed so much that he is trying to be in a relationship with his son! And Adam feels it. I wish I could see their normal relationship, then we can end it)
It's impossible to watch, well, what kind of teletubby colors and behavior? Give me back the alien girl with penis hands. She was more adequate than all of them combined. I understand that they turned this vomit out to the maximum for the sake of satire, but this is too much. I'll check it out purely on stubbornness.
Discussion: Season 4, Episode 2 Join the Discussion
117-No, you are quite right. It’s not funny at all. Except it’s very funny!
(Separately, I would like to note how infuriating it is for me that Eric does not remember Adam at all)
P.S.: To be honest, Maeve was partly motivated to write =) it is interesting to watch how writers become writers
New characters do not cause sympathy, but old ones are revealed due to them, so I think a decent ending will come out of this) At least I hope so :)
The new school increasingly seems to be something fantastic, which simply cannot be in reality. And in this case, it's never a compliment.
I wanna be your dog in the end credits pleased.
Somehow, the clientele quickly ran away to Otis, I thought it would take longer to walk restless, but they decided to mess up the versus battle of the British spill
Such is the queer cycle in nature
long-distance relationships are trash... I don't wish it on anyone.
I wonder what kind of story O has, because Ruby found out about it, and I think it's for a reason. I also think that this professor can take Maeve's work and pass it off as his own. It's too cloudy. This is the kind of thing where you create an "idol" for yourself, and it turns out to be rotten.
I support and sympathize with Mr. Groff, but his antics at the table... he was noticeably rude, maybe without meaning it. to kill Adam's newly appeared hopes for something good, devaluing his little pride in himself. objectively, it is true that sometimes love alone is not enough, you need to earn something, but you can not put pressure on the child, doing everything gradually. I was a little disappointed by his careless remarks.
this is probably one of the most interesting topics in the series for me. I hope that their relationship will start to improve a little bit. The driving lessons gave me a little bit of hope.
Humor is so good sometimes! Although it's often too awkward, that's probably what makes it catchy. 🙈
I don't understand what's going on with Isaac and Maeve, but it's interesting, oddly enough
I hope that at the end of the season Adam will be a pro with horses and cars. this farm will definitely benefit him more than the school. a kind of occupational therapy
and Aimee is happy to watch
It's a little boring so far
And the character of the Novel is played by a trans actor
😶
Adam is the best boy
I've always liked Ruby, but this season she looks like she's 10 years older than her REAL age. I think it's about makeup, but they're really not very...
The teacher-writer annoys me, I don't believe him, he's kind of nasty.
Maeve and Otis are no longer particularly interested and happy.
And the troika is the "elite" of this school, in general, kringe. I can't just start with them, they're all so fake to the point of horror
How many colors, how much freedom of speech. But at the same time, these are all restrictions and limits covered by freedom. 🥲
Perhaps I misunderstood, I will be glad for the opinion of others.
- They're just big dogs, right?
why feud if you can compete well?
If Adam doesn't do well by the end of the season, the writers will burn in hell.
Aimee and Isaac's line is weird, even though I like Isaac.
Can someone remind me, please, where Ola and Lily have gone?
"What freaks!
As a result, everything will turn into a dirty game, where both will be injured, quarrel with their friends, then in the end they realize they are wrong, shake hands and there will be two clinics in the school.
but it would seem that it would be possible to just make two clinics at once and not arrange this kindergarten with a monopoly, and who was the first to come up with it?
Joan is certainly as strange as possible. The house is in shit, I don't have enough hands, I'm on edge, but I absolutely won't accept help. She replaced her husband with her son, imposed daddy duties on the schoolboy, and was also unhappy with his decision to call his aunt for help.
Moreover, she is clearly burdened by the state of things, she wants to work, not that she is just a super-caring mother hen.
Well, if you don't want a sister, take a babysitter, a housemaid, why is that all?
It's painful to watch the already fragile relationship between Otis and Maeve crumble.
And of course, we are being hinted at opaquely that a teacher who has written his name will steal her work and pass it off as his own.
I really feel for Jackson, the actor is acting great.
Adam's line is interesting, I want him to finally find a common language with his father, it's obvious that the guy is attracted to him.
And only Eric is doing relatively well)
Persona and actor - sunny! I love how he fades over Otis, his sincerity and kindness.
What kind of people study there is the second question, and it's at least stupid to shit on the school for this.
And new students (as if you and I were invited to study there) have a choice of how to behave and who to support.
In general, the season is not bad, but the rocking has been going on for too long...
Perhaps I lost the thread of the narrative and the very atmosphere of the series, because I watched season 3 more than a year ago. But I have some kind of rejection from season 4. I barely watched 1 episode. And I just started the second one, but I already have to speak out. All this fake that the showrunners are trying to pass off as reality, it's just too much.
It is possible that the first 3 seasons have been erased in my memory, but, in my opinion, everything was not so beaten off and exaggerated. All these gender-neutral toilets, all painted gays and transgender people, in fact, there is no such thing. Literally every second. It's only on the screen. So why are they kidding themselves, trying to say that they are the majority? Like there's no room left in the series for the usual, albeit overly glamorous, beauty, since Ruby is now an outcast, and the elite are a couple of creepy trannies to whom everyone is afraid to say a word across?
Give me back the alien girl with penis hands. She was more adequate than all of them combined.
I understand that they turned this vomit out to the maximum for the sake of satire, but this is too much.
I'll check it out purely on stubbornness.