@DarinaFleur: It was great to see him here! Because I think I once heard that he decided not to act because a bunch of inadequates sent him threats because they hated Joffrey. I'm glad that he's still filming, given his talent (to play a character so that everyone hates him, you have to be able to do it)
God, I'm so sorry for Maeve, she always had a difficult life, and now she has a grief and everyone is dumping their little problems on her, and she can't even cry.
Adam's character is just the coolest. He is kind, sincere, does nothing out of spite or revenge, tries to cope with his feelings in eco-friendly ways, tries to open up to people…
@DarinaFleur: I also love Adam very much, but let's not forget that "kind, sincere, does nothing for evil or revenge" was not always, this is character development)
Jack Glisson's cameo is generally unexpected. Maeve and Mr. Hendrix improved the situation, but it's unclear why the writers arranged such a forgiveness with Erin - flowers, music, a presenter. There are also these animations with Jackson, a lot of strange decisions.
So why didn't Maeve give Aimee the go-ahead to date Isak? How strange the characters are still spelled out.
@kobiii: I don't understand Jackson's animations, just like I don't understand Eric's dreams and galyuns. They just take away screen time from really important arches (
@K2isOn: these are important topics that both of them are constantly thinking about, and the screenwriters show us projections of their consciousness to describe the importance of the moment
attitudes to both diseases and religion are super important for many, so I wouldn't call the topics passing
The topics are important, but they cover them as clumsily as possible, casually and with excessive humor, as for me in the final season they could have been approached differently
I think Jackson's animations are tied to his anxiety, he really screwed himself up about the tumor, thinking it was cancer, some kind of hypochondria. It's just that I suffer from it too and sometimes it reaches the size of a panic attack. he screwed himself up a lot, although in the end it turned out that his tumor was not malignant
Poor Maeve has everything as always – while friends and peers indulge in all sorts of perversions and worry about trifles, she has a whole family drama ((( I join in Adam's praise – it's always interesting to watch him and his father, they still have a good family, despite all the difficulties🤝🏻
The host of the ceremony is just a nightmare. But in general, the ceremony turned out to be touching. Maeve made a good speech. U2 song at the end of the ceremony 💔 It was nice to see the teachers from the old school.
I like Adam's line more and more. It is incredibly interesting to watch its development.
Jack Gleason with a mustache is so funny, it didn't even immediately realize that it was him :))
I hope things get better between Eric and Otis. They should talk properly... Although, as you can see over the last few episodes, Otis has problems with conversations.
I am delighted with Aimee and Ruby. And I'm surprised that Maeve is against Aimee's relationship with Isaac. I thought she didn't care.
I like it less and less. He sticks his nose where he shouldn't, pretends to be a darling, but in fact a man with rottenness. It's interesting to see how things turn out after Ruby posted the video.
An amazing and touching series💔 It would seem that there should be so much sadness here, but masterfully inserted moments of humor, awkwardness and gorgeous performance of U2 💔
@ChandlerLi: this problem that stopped them this time - it was just invented out of nothing right now, such a cringe. Another series in which they are afraid to break the status Quo
The main question that still torments me is if Otis's family is so rich that even Eric is offended by him for this, then why can't Jean hire a nanny or at least a cleaner who would make her life easier?
The conflict between Otis and Eric looks super strange - yes, they are different, but it seems that the creators pulled all Eric's grievances from some obscure place. The creators themselves filmed the series, in which everyone ignored the race of the characters, and from the very beginning there were decently more black characters in percentage terms than actually lives on average in similar provincial cities in England (Asians are much less here than they actually live in England). But it turns out that Otis is now to blame for the fact that he and Eric do not discuss the issue of his race. There didn't seem to be any problems with the money issue either for season 3, but now again Otis is to blame that his family is richer, and he doesn't want to discuss it. Otis has a real problem that he can't speak with words through his mouth or at least through his phone, like all normal people. But it's also strange to blame Eric for not understanding LGBT issues - he seems to have always supported him, and in any case, it's impossible to expect a straight man to understand an LGBT representative 100%. I also have family and friends who are not LGBT, I do not expect them to fully understand my worldview, just because they communicate with me. It's like expecting a humanitarian to be interested in mathematics, just because he is friends/lives with a programmer.
Well, Maeve, who is against Amy dating Isaac, is also surprising, but against the background of her mother's death, I can understand why she can make strange decisions. This is really the case when Amy needed to postpone this conversation for later.
Yes! Since the first episode, I can't understand why Jin can't take a babysitter and quietly go about his business. This would greatly alleviate postpartum depression.
Jean has a huge house, almost like in America. And you will remember the standard houses in England. It seems to me that it costs a lot of money to maintain such a house. Plus, the fee for such a school is also high. Jean's income comes from publications and private consultations. I don't think the first one can bring in millions, because it's specialized, not fiction. And she doesn't have any private practices right now. Plus, it was correctly written that she does not know how to accept help, all by herself. And he probably lives partly on his savings, which he does not want to spend at zero. And Eric's family lives in a crowd in a simpler dwelling, to put it mildly. Plus they're migrants or whatever. I drew such a justification for myself 😀
I don't believe I'm writing this myself, but this season it no longer seems to me that Maeve and Otis are a good couple (Something stands between them, some kind of misunderstanding, a difference that prevents them from understanding each other. That spark has completely disappeared. But the relationship with Ruby was a shock, but when her other side was revealed, on the contrary, it seems that they are very harmonious and fit each other more.
In general, there is a huge growth of the characters, not that they abruptly overcame their fears and became better, but that they began to look problems in the eye more, to understand what they care about. This leads to conflicts between Otis and Eric. They were children and it was cool for them to "play" together, but what unites them now? Do they give each other what they want from friendship? Such a crisis of friendship, it seems to me, is normal. It just usually happens by itself after graduation, for example, I don't communicate with anyone from school/childhood friends, we have become too different, there's nothing to even talk about except shared memories.
A very vital and dramatic season is coming out and there is not even a feeling that in two episodes the final is completely over, there is still so much to show!
Of course, I did not expect to see King Joffrey Baratheon with a mustache and allergies at all) I am glad to see this actor.
Otis and Eric are both good that way. Everyone's claims are understandable in some way - for example, Otis really often thinks only of himself, and Eric really knocked him over for the sake of new incomprehensible friends, but they have a petty conflict.
They reminded me why I like Isaac so much. Still, against the background of teenage problems of varying severity, he understands Maeve on a deeper level and he manages to figure out what's wrong with her, find the right words or actions. He's cool. I'm waiting for Maeve to lift her strange taboo after all, and they'll try with Aimee.
And Adam is just the sun. He's so nice. May he be all right)
Wow, Jack Gleason was lured into the light of day!
Adam is the best in general. A normal healthy arch in humans. Aimee is also happy. Why Maeve is suddenly against the fact that Aimee and Isaac were somehow together is a mystery to me. I thought she didn't care.
Beau is very annoying, my spider sense works for him.
Something from the category - am I unhappy, let everyone be too? It's not like she and Isaac had love to the grave to react violently to Aimee's feelings.
@Darzik: you demand too much judgment from a 17-year-old girl whose mother has just died, her brother is hooked on drugs again, problems with a boyfriend and difficulties in studying. Maeve loves Aimee and hardly wants her to be unhappy, it's more like she's just not ready to reflect on that at the moment.
A very intense series. I'm happy for Aimee, she finally found her purpose in creativity, and how she responded to those workers! An unexpected twist with Ruby and Oh, I wonder what's going to happen next. Throughout the season, Adam and Aimee's characters are the most interesting, they have really grown as individuals.
When Mr. Hendricks and Miss Sands looked at the light, I just tore up from the touching moment. I missed some of the actors from the old cast, but especially these guys!
I want to go and hug a horse ... I liked this episode the most in the season so far, then I realized - there were no new characters in it (except Oh, but she was separate from Jean) and a new school, but there were old teachers, hence it seems that this is the same atmosphere of the first seasons.
And I was thinking why this series touched me so much that the last 5 just flew out of my head, like the wrong link. The whole past cast has become a family, in 3 short seasons, and new characters do not penetrate in any way
Something about the Eric/Mystique line strongly smacks of Riverdale madness...A strange move Sean at the funeral is certainly something...but he said everything according to the facts, more resentment than selfishness. Very sad
@DiDendy: I recently attended two funerals and involuntarily compared this scene with what I saw in person. Despite the fact that the situation at the funeral in the series is terrible, the ceremony itself is very, very emotional. I spent the whole episode in tears. In fact, it is a very deep topic, so many thoughts immediately pop up
@dar1101: she is a teenager and talks about sex with teenagers like her. I bet that 90% of young people will talk about such problems with a peer, and will not sign up for a specialist because it is still a shameful topic. About on the radio in order to ensure trust
It's not the first time Eric has shared with Otis how he feels, and without accusations, and Otis can't even squeeze out one phrase in all the conversations, meaning that he heard Eric; they've always been different, but they were just there for each other, and that's the value of their friendship, and this emotional stupidity from Otis is infuriating, I understand Eric very much. Adam and Aimee's lines are just the best for the whole series, I really want them to be happy 😭💖 in this series, the warm feeling from the series finally returned, before that there was a feeling that the previous 3 seasons did not exist
Eric's sudden visits are already beginning to annoy, what are they leading to? That his vocation is to worship black Jesus? Last season he had a stupid storyline, but this one interrupted. Adam is still the best boy, I hope he will have a happy ending, maybe even with Jam. That Maeve is against Aimee and Isaac's relationship..What's going on? She's not in love with him now- since they broke up a lot of time ago + they haven't been together for a long time at all. What are you complaining about, Maeve? What's the big deal? Otis and Maeve are still rotten, chemistry 0 out of 10. If in season 1 I still understood the idea of their pair, now everything has slipped into absurdity.
As Maeve said at the end of the episode: it was a strange day. Oh, yes, it turned out to be a strange series. On the one hand, there are many touching and sad moments, on the other hand, sometimes I absolutely do not understand what is happening in the frame and why. Jackson's fears about his health are understandable, especially at funerals, but all those eggs around were clearly superfluous.😅 Otis, who, after Erin's funeral, immediately approaches not his supposedly beloved person to support, but Eric to discuss their far-fetched differences. As if there was no other time. Maeve, who is not with Isaac herself, and does not give him a chance to be happy with Amy. It's unclear where Otis's glitches came from. Did the night with Ruby affect him so much that he started thinking about his mom again?There are too many incomprehensible things. I was pleased that the new characters in this series were left behind the scenes and a couple of oldies from previous seasons were invited
@blacki3: I think it wasn't the night with Ruby that influenced Otis, but his inner fears. He slept with Ruby drunk and without any hope of a relationship. Now, as they said above, he is afraid to enter into a serious relationship, because he is afraid of being abandoned: he had a traumatic experience in childhood with his father's departure, Maeve could theoretically leave, so he again fixated on the problem and caught a panic attack.
Adam and Ruby are the best characters in the series and so both want happiness 😭😭
And the more I watch these "misunderstandings" of Otis and Maeve, the more I understand that they are not a couple, but friends.
The conflict between Otis and Eric seems logical to me. It's just that sooner or later there are too many such little things and it turns out that this is already a whole lump that cannot be ignored. But yes, Otis really has some kind of problem with normal communication, despite the fact that he supposedly gives people advice. Sometimes he didn't answer Maeve for days, then Ruby, then stupidly ignores the claims that Eric openly expresses (who is also not without sin). But Otis really isn't particularly interested in Eric's life, that's a fact!
Well, the best scene in the series: It's like Amy yelled at the men!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Despite the fact that the characters have grown both externally and internally, it feels like the series has become more childish (I'm not sure I picked the right word). But. The first seasons were sparkling, the actions were natural, and the now popular agenda was appropriate. From the fourth season, it feels as if the agenda is stuffed disproportionately with the plot and the number of episodes, and the actions of the characters have lost their teenage charm, and have become just stupid. "Let's break up for a while," - what is Eric anyway!? Otis!? They don't stick that on the contrary it is necessary to talk, and not to wrap up friendship? Why do they make a completely absurd fool out of Otis? One hope for Ruby, Amy, Jean and the Groff family this season. I love them. The latter especially. That Maureen and Michael's relationship, that enchanting dialogues about Viagra between Michael and Adam. I hope everything will work out for them 🖤
I don't know why, but at the moment when Sean was talking about all the horrors and cruelty that Erin Uyali (Maeve and Sean's mother) brought to her children's lives, I let out a tear..It's really terrible, she didn't make a good mother.
I don't see Otis and Maeve as a couple at all, imho. I'm sorry for Adam, now almost everything is fine again.. I am sincerely glad for Jackson that everything went well)) But still, what happens to him then? in general, it's already the 2nd rather difficult series ... but I understand the emotions of all the characters in this series
I didn't like that Eric didn't remember at all for 6 episodes how he acted with Adam (and before that with Rahim). I hope Adam, his parents, Isaac, Aimee and Ruby will be fine, I'm turning on new episodes for them.
Otis is infuriating, Eric has always shared his feelings with him, waited for support from him, after all, he is the best friend! And Otis doesn't fucking support a friend, doesn't remember him at all, and when Eric forgot about him, he immediately said, "let's not quarrel! ". Yes, Otis and Ruby's feelings don't care at all. And when Maeve turned out to be on his bed, he doesn't give a damn, he remembers his childhood problems. Well, you love her, dude, what's wrong with you. I feel sorry for those people who are in close contact with Otis, it seems to me that they are all unhappy from communicating with him
I think this episode should put an end to the relationship between Maeve and Otis. As a couple, they are nothing and go in completely different directions. I hope Otis at least has the courage to convince her to finish her studies, and he still has so much work to do on himself that he will just pull Maeve along. As she said herself, she needs stability, and this is not about Otis at all and definitely not about their relationship.
Eric and Otis' friendship took a wrong turn a long time ago. Eric, of course, is far from a gift himself, but I wouldn't take him out to be friends with such an egoist as Otis. And he doesn't deserve Ruby either as a friend or as a girlfriend. I hope he stays alone in the end and stupidly works out his problems to begin with.
It became difficult to watch something.. The actors have matured a lot, if at the beginning of filming they were slightly over 20 and could somehow be mistaken for schoolchildren, then now the uncles / aunts are playing teenagers, causing dissonance, although the cast is generally good. The new characters never fell in love, but no one from the new college at all.
Damn, I agree with the claims against Otis only in relation to Ruby and partially Eric - they are a pair of boots with him))) neither one nor the other listens to the other, the rest don't give a shit about him at all, no one asks how his life is there at all. In general, this season seems to have been too clever with the fact that everyone is silent about what is happening in their lives there and a lot of absolutely stupid conflicts are built on this. The moment when Otis went to look for Maeve at the funeral and did not find her, and Isaac in a wheelchair scanned with one glance right through the wheelbarrow that she was there, just a facepalm))))
I somehow didn't understand at all why it was necessary to add so much comedy when saying goodbye to Maeve's mom, it was nice to see a good old couple of teachers, Eric's conflict with Otis is understandable, but it is built incorrectly, about Maeve's relationship with Otis, it feels like they are being sucked out of the finger, if in previous seasons, I I empathized with them and wanted their happiness with every fiber, now I'm completely indifferent because of stupid actions and dialogues, there are 2 episodes left, and considering that this is the last season, I have no idea how they should end it all normally
It's so touching that Cal's mom calls them "they" (I know for myself that it can be difficult to switch and start talking about a person in the third person)
@MidnightPhoenix: да, сложно переключиться, потому что это абсолютно неадекватно применять множественное число на человека. язык делался для того, чтобы облегчить коммуникацию, а не думать судорожно каждую секунду "какой бы пронаун тут применить, чтоб не задеть его/её/их чувства??"
@Alice_Eisemann: This is just a feature of the English language, and it's not just about queers. In English, in principle, if gender is unclear or not important, they say. For example, you read the rules of a board game, and they will be there, because anyone can play. It's like in Russian they can write "he(a)", implying both sexes at once. Tracing paper "they" in Russian really looks strange, but there is simply no such language analogue.
The scene with Adam and the horse reminded me of a scene from the Sopranos. With all the dubious plot twists, subtle psychologism still slips through in some places.
Отис бесит, друга просрал, любимую девушку отталкивает своими тараканами, причем раз за разом. Но все равно надеюсь на хеппи-энд. Руби красотка, надо эту О на место поставить!
песня u2 просто 💔💔💔 я ее услышала и мурашками покрылась, она великолепна, особенно в эмоциональном исполнении мистера Хендрикса)) здорово, что Эми в каком-то смысле проработала травму, ответим тем рабочим. все еще надеюсь что у Адама всё будет хорошо, момент когда он сказал Эрику что скучает просто 🥺💔 Эрик очень раздражает, отворачивается сам от близких ему людей
а еще мне кажется, что очень эгоистично со стороны Мейв не давать Эми и Айзеку встречаться, если они друг другу нравятся. Мейв сама его отвергла, жаль что из-за нее двое людей, которые влюблены, не могут быть вместе. ни себе, ни людям
Очень хорошая серия получилась Жалко Мэйв, вроде началась новая жизнь, но много неприятного навалилось.. И Адам, такой лапочка, сама невинность, ему так тяжело всё дается, справляется с трудностями и вот вроде доверие к отцу возвращается, но нет, ему снова врут в лицо.. О - полное отвращение вызывает, то как она выкручивается из ситуаций где она действительно не права прям фу
В четвертом сезоне меня начали раздражать персонажи Мейв, Отиса и Эрика. Причём поведение каждого из них я могу понять и посочувствовать, если держать в голове, что они просто школьники, но из-за того, что актеры уже далеко так не выглядят, то это вызывает диссонанс. Что имеем: Эрик, который вечно в поисках тех, кто ему «больше подходит» и наплевательски относится к тем, кто рядом. Мейв, которая против отношений Эми с ее бывшим, которого она, судя по прошлым сезонам, и не любила даже. И Отис, который вечно во всем неуверен и все портит, при этом считает себя достаточно взрослым, чтобы проводить секс-терапии, но наезжает на свою мать, которой и так трудно, потому что «я тоже все еще ребенок». Абсолютно каждый из этой тройки считает, что им все что-то должны, но сами они своим требованиям не соответствуют.
Мейв как-то не вызывает жалости уже, простт хочется, чтобы сериал поскорее кончился.
Жду реакцию людей на видео, которое выложила Руби. Ну молодец, надо эту О уже затопить.
ОТ АДАМА СЕРДЦЕ КРОВЬЮ ОБЛИВАЕТСЯ. "I missed you". Мой малыш.... я тоже скучала по вашим отношениям, но ты заслуживаешь лучшего! Но какой же он крохотулечка, так и хочется обнять и чтобы у него всего хорошо было, хотя считаю, что на то, что родители сошлись он слишком реагирует, но его можно понять.
Мейв и её "я буду против, если вы будете встречаться". Ты ебанутая? Тебе этот Айзек ни с какой стороны не всрался, вы не то чтобы даже встречались как-то. Ты его бросила. И когда твоя подруга действительно счастлива с ним, ты против, при условии что сама посоветовала им начать общаться.
Я бы поняла, если бы она сказала "Айзек со мной плохо поступил, имей это ввиду, когда будешь с ним встречаться, мало ли что он сделает". Это да, это окей, она волнуется за подругу, но вот это...
Отис ведёт себя эгоистично в ссоре с Эриком. Никто не говорит, что вам нужно перестать общаться, просто вы можете общаться и с другими людьми, и это абсолютно нормально.
Бо очень странный и подозрительный. Надеюсь, Вив поймёт, что Джексон желает ей только лучшего, и Бо это не лучшее
что злит весь сезон - у Отиса как будто вообще нет роста персонажа. четвертый сезон, а у него как будто ноль понимания, как вести себя с людьми, с собственными друзьями, с Мейв. просто всю его арку смотришь и злишься на его действия. не знаю, разрулят ли это как-то к концу сезона и покажут, что он что-то вынес из всех ситуаций, но пока он ужасно бесит(
не могу придумать ни одного логического объяснения, почему Мейв так остро отреагировала на Эйми с Айзеком и против этого. надеюсь, это раскроют дальше
присоединяюсь к любви к Адаму, надеюсь, что он наконец будет счастлив)
@bettea: мне кажется, что Мейв боится, что её все бросят, что Эйми может увлечься новыми отношениями и забить на их дружбу. Зрителя плавно подводили к тому, что её "бросают" - мама, брат, препод, Отис, её, талант, и всё рушилось вокруг неё. Я думаю, что так она держалась за последнее. Вообще не осуждаю её, мне кажется, это очень человечено. Она не идеальна.
Могу ошибаться, но вроде есть какой то культурный «bro code» в Америке(?), по которому ты не можешь встречаться с кем то из тех, кто нравится/ нравился (?) твоему другу. Так это всё без объяснения показали с Мейв, что будто у них тоже подобное в культуре есть, типа это каким то образом не этично для них, тк и Эми заранее чувствовала, что Мейв плохо воспримет новость. Посмотрим, в общем, надеюсь, что объяснят. А если нет, то наверно какие то британские социальные контексты
У меня еще такое предположение (чисто пытаюсь себя поставить на место Мейв), что ей просто неприятно было бы пересекаться с Айзеком, зная, какую подлость он сделал и на что способен, и она как будто хочет оградить Эйми от сближения с ним
Мне определенно нравится, что сместили акцент с пошлых шуточек на персонажей. Мне нравится, что делается с персонажами. Они наконец из максималистичных подростков превращаются во взрослых личностей. Постепенно находят свое место в мире. Да они все еще по подростковому остро реагируют на проблемы, но не признать рост героев просто нельзя. Крайне интересно, чем все закончится. Особенно интересно, что будет с Мейв и Отисом. Создается впечатление, что вселенная прямо кричит о том, что они не пара. Мейв явно хороша в писательстве и у нее зарождается новая жизнь. Отис который никак не может намеренно переспать с Мейв, но с невероятной легкостью оказывается в постели у Руби. Но при всем при этом я вижу тонкую ниточку которая их связывает. Это сложные по своему судьбы, которые они могли бы править с опорой друг на друга. Отис определенно голос разума, а Мейв видела много дерьма и поэтому сильная (даже слезинки не проронила из за похорон). Мейв может внести безуменку в жизнь Отиса, а Отис соответственно дать Мейв островок стабильности. Но посмотрим, как оно будет. В жизни не всегда случаются Хэппи энды
Порой тяжелая,но очень мощная серия получилась👏👏 Сцена с похоронами,речь Мэйв и после игра на фортепиано заставили меня всплакнуть🥺 Надеюсь Отис и Эрик все же продолжат общаться спустя какое-то время,и их дружба не оборвется вот так🤞
Только начала смотреть серию и никак не могу понять Мэйв. Почему она против, что бы ее подруга встречалась с Айзеком? У нее к нему чувств уже явно нет, да и те что были, явно были не шибко сильными, так почему она против? Да он ее Бывший, но что с того то? Они и встречались то не долго, да и вроде даже до интима дело не дошло, плюс она вообще любит Отиса. Короче логика мэйв мне не ясна. Может конечно к середине или к концу серии она поменяет свое решение, но пока мне ее не понять…
Несколько мгновений назад Руби была против использования видео в борьбе с О. Но жажда справедливости оказалась сильнее потребности сохранить свою безупречную подростковую репутацию. И склоняюсь всё же к тому, что тёплые чувства к Отису не угасли, и она желает ему всего самого лучшего.
Очень понравилась сцена с песней на похоронах. Взгляды героев говорили громче всяких слов.
Эпизод лучший. Речь Эйми разорвал сердечко, аж плакать захотелось. Со Стрёмного Мо орала. Как и от раскрытия романа родителей Адама. Ну и теперь стало совсем очевидно, что Мейв и Отис не будут вместе в финале - сами сценаристы показывают, что их совместимость нулевая (химии между ними ноль, только дружеские вайбы, плюс очень красивый с точки зрения сюжета ход, что Мейв нашел не Отис). Рада, что О разоблачили, но, с другой стороны, это тупое разоблачение, потому что поступки детства и достижения во взрослом возрасте не равны (хотя её хитрожопая улыбочка мне всё равно не нравится). Не понравился ответ Мейв, что она против Эйми и Айзека (пыталась поставить себя на её место, но ее ответ может означать только, что у неё есть чувства к Айзеку). С другой стороны на Мейв многое навалилось, а она держит всё в себе.Но это её проблема. Исполнение мр. Хендрикса на высоте!
Руби молодец🔥🔥🔥 Не побоялась показать ролик. Надеюсь она осознала и приняла тот факт, что ее вины не было, и с ней поступили плохо. И ей не должно быть стыдно.
Мне очень нравится как показано, что происходит с детьми из неблагополучный семей. Очень наглядно показано, что есть выбор пойти по тропе родителей(Шон, который торговал раньше наркотиками, сейчас сам подсел) или стараться выбраться из всего этого и быть противоположностью(Мейв, которая усердно училась, пошла на престижную стажировку и тд)
айзек просто чудо! кажется он и правда лучше подходил мейв…)) но с эйми они тоже чудо😍 надеюсь мэйв поменяет мнение, хотя ситуация конечно непростая и не самая приятная - бывший и лучшая подруга.. блин отис и эрик😭😭 надеюсь поговорят и поймут что друзья это не расходный материал и надо ими дорожить. и иногда приходится прикладывать усилия чтобы не потерять близких
Честно, мне понравилась речь Шона. Он сказал все так, как было на самом деле. Он имеет право на такие эмоции. Мэйв тоже имеет право как никак злится на него за такие слова, ведь она хотела достойно попрощаться с Эрин. А вот момент где Отис падает в кусты, а Эрик кричит ему, -“OATCAKE! OATCAKE!”, просто в голос засмеялась, так еще пару раз пересмотрела момент. Этот момент наверное единственное, что мне понравилось в этом сезоне
Как же трогательно было на похоронах И как круто было видеть всех ребят вместе в одном здании. Адам и Эрик это вообще отдельная песня. В общем пол серии в слезах с проблесками улыбки в кринжовых моментах
Не очень понимаю мотивацию О так сильно поднасрать Отису. Как будто бы конкуренция конкуренцией, но она ведет себя так, будто у нее какие-то личные счеты с ним. Очень трогательная серия получилась, очень много боли у каждого персонажа, что порой фокус на ней отдаляет от других. Мэйв зациклена на себе и своих проблемах, ее ранит, что Отис остался ночевать у Руби, она горюет по маме, не нравится, что подруга влюблена в бывшего. Но здесь буквально все зациклена на своих проблемах и оттого так тяжело даются коммуникации, и это так жизненно, на самом деле. Эрик не понимает хочет ли он пойти в церковь и креститься, у него новые друзья, с Отисом какие-то недопонимания, хотя они, вроде, лучшие друзья. Отис ревнует маму к сестре, переживает из-за своей репутации и столкновения с О, думает о Мэйв, думает как бы подмазаться к Руби, чтобы та помогла с О. Адам переживает из-за родителей и так далее. Прям после просмотра этой серии прошла параллель с Маркесом «100 лет одиночества», как будто бы эта серия — отличная иллюстрация.
Oh, incredibly annoying, dodgy bitch. Maeve behaves selfishly when she asks her best friend not to date her ex, I understand perfectly well that it's hard for her, but Aimee tries so hard, is always there, supports and helps, sometimes even ignoring her own affairs and problems, has always been on Maeve's side, even in old school preferred Maeve to her usual circle of communication and I took her side. You could just be glad that your friend's personal life is getting better, but no. Otis also does a shitty thing, uses Ruby, who always helps him. He ignores her for days, and then asks for help. He thinks only of himself. He's trying to be a good guy for Maeve, but even here he's got it all up his ass. He also treats Eric strangely, takes him for granted, and is practically not interested in what is happening in his life. He expresses his dissatisfaction to his mother. Dude, you're in high school, and she has a baby and a lot of work, she just doesn't have time to keep track of everything at once. And when she listened to his claims and tried to establish contact, he starts to get mad and says "you haven't been interested in me lately, what are you doing now?" Oru. He started a war with O, and threw all the problems on Ruby, he himself is not trying to find a way to open everyone's eyes to the fact that O is not as holy as everyone thinks.
So why didn't Maeve give Aimee the go-ahead to date Isak? How strange the characters are still spelled out.
attitudes to both diseases and religion are super important for many, so I wouldn't call the topics passing
I join in Adam's praise – it's always interesting to watch him and his father, they still have a good family, despite all the difficulties🤝🏻
I like Adam's line more and more. It is incredibly interesting to watch its development.
Jack Gleason with a mustache is so funny, it didn't even immediately realize that it was him :))
I hope things get better between Eric and Otis. They should talk properly... Although, as you can see over the last few episodes, Otis has problems with conversations.
I am delighted with Aimee and Ruby. And I'm surprised that Maeve is against Aimee's relationship with Isaac. I thought she didn't care.
I like it less and less. He sticks his nose where he shouldn't, pretends to be a darling, but in fact a man with rottenness. It's interesting to see how things turn out after Ruby posted the video.
It would seem that there should be so much sadness here, but masterfully inserted moments of humor, awkwardness and gorgeous performance of U2 💔
The conflict between Otis and Eric looks super strange - yes, they are different, but it seems that the creators pulled all Eric's grievances from some obscure place. The creators themselves filmed the series, in which everyone ignored the race of the characters, and from the very beginning there were decently more black characters in percentage terms than actually lives on average in similar provincial cities in England (Asians are much less here than they actually live in England). But it turns out that Otis is now to blame for the fact that he and Eric do not discuss the issue of his race. There didn't seem to be any problems with the money issue either for season 3, but now again Otis is to blame that his family is richer, and he doesn't want to discuss it.
Otis has a real problem that he can't speak with words through his mouth or at least through his phone, like all normal people. But it's also strange to blame Eric for not understanding LGBT issues - he seems to have always supported him, and in any case, it's impossible to expect a straight man to understand an LGBT representative 100%. I also have family and friends who are not LGBT, I do not expect them to fully understand my worldview, just because they communicate with me. It's like expecting a humanitarian to be interested in mathematics, just because he is friends/lives with a programmer.
Well, Maeve, who is against Amy dating Isaac, is also surprising, but against the background of her mother's death, I can understand why she can make strange decisions. This is really the case when Amy needed to postpone this conversation for later.
I'm just mad when she appears on the screen
In general, there is a huge growth of the characters, not that they abruptly overcame their fears and became better, but that they began to look problems in the eye more, to understand what they care about. This leads to conflicts between Otis and Eric. They were children and it was cool for them to "play" together, but what unites them now? Do they give each other what they want from friendship? Such a crisis of friendship, it seems to me, is normal.
It just usually happens by itself after graduation, for example, I don't communicate with anyone from school/childhood friends, we have become too different, there's nothing to even talk about except shared memories.
A very vital and dramatic season is coming out and there is not even a feeling that in two episodes the final is completely over, there is still so much to show!
Otis and Eric are both good that way. Everyone's claims are understandable in some way - for example, Otis really often thinks only of himself, and Eric really knocked him over for the sake of new incomprehensible friends, but they have a petty conflict.
They reminded me why I like Isaac so much. Still, against the background of teenage problems of varying severity, he understands Maeve on a deeper level and he manages to figure out what's wrong with her, find the right words or actions. He's cool. I'm waiting for Maeve to lift her strange taboo after all, and they'll try with Aimee.
And Adam is just the sun. He's so nice. May he be all right)
Adam is the best in general. A normal healthy arch in humans.
Aimee is also happy. Why Maeve is suddenly against the fact that Aimee and Isaac were somehow together is a mystery to me. I thought she didn't care.
Beau is very annoying, my spider sense works for him.
Throughout the season, Adam and Aimee's characters are the most interesting, they have really grown as individuals.
I liked this episode the most in the season so far, then I realized - there were no new characters in it (except Oh, but she was separate from Jean) and a new school, but there were old teachers, hence it seems that this is the same atmosphere of the first seasons.
Sean at the funeral is certainly something...but he said everything according to the facts, more resentment than selfishness. Very sad
The teachers are very touching, and so is the scene with the song
Adam is still the best boy, I hope he will have a happy ending, maybe even with Jam.
That Maeve is against Aimee and Isaac's relationship..What's going on? She's not in love with him now- since they broke up a lot of time ago + they haven't been together for a long time at all. What are you complaining about, Maeve? What's the big deal?
Otis and Maeve are still rotten, chemistry 0 out of 10. If in season 1 I still understood the idea of their pair, now everything has slipped into absurdity.
And the more I watch these "misunderstandings" of Otis and Maeve, the more I understand that they are not a couple, but friends.
The conflict between Otis and Eric seems logical to me. It's just that sooner or later there are too many such little things and it turns out that this is already a whole lump that cannot be ignored. But yes, Otis really has some kind of problem with normal communication, despite the fact that he supposedly gives people advice. Sometimes he didn't answer Maeve for days, then Ruby, then stupidly ignores the claims that Eric openly expresses (who is also not without sin). But Otis really isn't particularly interested in Eric's life, that's a fact!
Well, the best scene in the series: It's like Amy yelled at the men!!! 🔥🔥🔥
One hope for Ruby, Amy, Jean and the Groff family this season. I love them. The latter especially. That Maureen and Michael's relationship, that enchanting dialogues about Viagra between Michael and Adam. I hope everything will work out for them 🖤
Yes, Otis and Ruby's feelings don't care at all. And when Maeve turned out to be on his bed, he doesn't give a damn, he remembers his childhood problems. Well, you love her, dude, what's wrong with you. I feel sorry for those people who are in close contact with Otis, it seems to me that they are all unhappy from communicating with him
Eric and Otis' friendship took a wrong turn a long time ago. Eric, of course, is far from a gift himself, but I wouldn't take him out to be friends with such an egoist as Otis. And he doesn't deserve Ruby either as a friend or as a girlfriend. I hope he stays alone in the end and stupidly works out his problems to begin with.
Adam and Aimee - 💖
(I know for myself that it can be difficult to switch and start talking about a person in the third person)
In English, in principle, if gender is unclear or not important, they say. For example, you read the rules of a board game, and they will be there, because anyone can play. It's like in Russian they can write "he(a)", implying both sexes at once.
Tracing paper "they" in Russian really looks strange, but there is simply no such language analogue.
Aimee is a tough guy ❤️
Ruby is a tough guy ❤️
Adam and the horse - 2)))) ❤️
Maeve, don't stay for Otis!!! After the teachers said how proud they are of her and how talented she is, omg, how sad it is to see this.
здорово, что Эми в каком-то смысле проработала травму, ответим тем рабочим.
все еще надеюсь что у Адама всё будет хорошо, момент когда он сказал Эрику что скучает просто 🥺💔
Эрик очень раздражает, отворачивается сам от близких ему людей
Жалко Мэйв, вроде началась новая жизнь, но много неприятного навалилось.. И Адам, такой лапочка, сама невинность, ему так тяжело всё дается, справляется с трудностями и вот вроде доверие к отцу возвращается, но нет, ему снова врут в лицо..
О - полное отвращение вызывает, то как она выкручивается из ситуаций где она действительно не права прям фу
Жду реакцию людей на видео, которое выложила Руби. Ну молодец, надо эту О уже затопить.
ОТ АДАМА СЕРДЦЕ КРОВЬЮ ОБЛИВАЕТСЯ. "I missed you". Мой малыш.... я тоже скучала по вашим отношениям, но ты заслуживаешь лучшего! Но какой же он крохотулечка, так и хочется обнять и чтобы у него всего хорошо было, хотя считаю, что на то, что родители сошлись он слишком реагирует, но его можно понять.
Мейв и её "я буду против, если вы будете встречаться". Ты ебанутая? Тебе этот Айзек ни с какой стороны не всрался, вы не то чтобы даже встречались как-то. Ты его бросила. И когда твоя подруга действительно счастлива с ним, ты против, при условии что сама посоветовала им начать общаться.
Я бы поняла, если бы она сказала "Айзек со мной плохо поступил, имей это ввиду, когда будешь с ним встречаться, мало ли что он сделает". Это да, это окей, она волнуется за подругу, но вот это...
Отис ведёт себя эгоистично в ссоре с Эриком. Никто не говорит, что вам нужно перестать общаться, просто вы можете общаться и с другими людьми, и это абсолютно нормально.
Бо очень странный и подозрительный. Надеюсь, Вив поймёт, что Джексон желает ей только лучшего, и Бо это не лучшее
не могу придумать ни одного логического объяснения, почему Мейв так остро отреагировала на Эйми с Айзеком и против этого. надеюсь, это раскроют дальше
присоединяюсь к любви к Адаму, надеюсь, что он наконец будет счастлив)
Вообще не осуждаю её, мне кажется, это очень человечено. Она не идеальна.
Очень вдохновляют линии Адама и Руби, рост их персонажей! 🤍
Сцена с похоронами,речь Мэйв и после игра на фортепиано заставили меня всплакнуть🥺
Надеюсь Отис и Эрик все же продолжат общаться спустя какое-то время,и их дружба не оборвется вот так🤞
Очень понравилась сцена с песней на похоронах. Взгляды героев говорили громче всяких слов.
Рада, что О разоблачили, но, с другой стороны, это тупое разоблачение, потому что поступки детства и достижения во взрослом возрасте не равны (хотя её хитрожопая улыбочка мне всё равно не нравится).
Не понравился ответ Мейв, что она против Эйми и Айзека (пыталась поставить себя на её место, но ее ответ может означать только, что у неё есть чувства к Айзеку). С другой стороны на Мейв многое навалилось, а она держит всё в себе.Но это её проблема.
Исполнение мр. Хендрикса на высоте!
Шон хоть и не положительный персонаж, но заставил сочувствовать ему.
Адам такой искренний...
Не побоялась показать ролик. Надеюсь она осознала и приняла тот факт, что ее вины не было, и с ней поступили плохо. И ей не должно быть стыдно.
Так багато болю у кожному із них, пісня у крематорії була чудовою..
И как круто было видеть всех ребят вместе в одном здании.
Адам и Эрик это вообще отдельная песня.
В общем пол серии в слезах с проблесками улыбки в кринжовых моментах
Адам и Эрик ,как бы хотелось видеть их вместе ...💔
мальчик или девочка? до этого думала что мальчик, но вроде как девочка
Вот так наверное и закончится сюжетная линия Адама.
The most beautiful scene: Adam hugging a horse
Isaac clearly feels that way Maeve
It's a pity that Ruby has only one way out.
Maeve behaves selfishly when she asks her best friend not to date her ex, I understand perfectly well that it's hard for her, but Aimee tries so hard, is always there, supports and helps, sometimes even ignoring her own affairs and problems, has always been on Maeve's side, even in old school preferred Maeve to her usual circle of communication and I took her side. You could just be glad that your friend's personal life is getting better, but no.
Otis also does a shitty thing, uses Ruby, who always helps him. He ignores her for days, and then asks for help. He thinks only of himself. He's trying to be a good guy for Maeve, but even here he's got it all up his ass.
He also treats Eric strangely, takes him for granted, and is practically not interested in what is happening in his life.
He expresses his dissatisfaction to his mother. Dude, you're in high school, and she has a baby and a lot of work, she just doesn't have time to keep track of everything at once. And when she listened to his claims and tried to establish contact, he starts to get mad and says "you haven't been interested in me lately, what are you doing now?" Oru.
He started a war with O, and threw all the problems on Ruby, he himself is not trying to find a way to open everyone's eyes to the fact that O is not as holy as everyone thinks.