s02e15 — Keep Your Mouth Shut
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| Duration: | 43 min. |
| Released: | 04.03.201405.03.2014 07:00 |
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And also, yes, thanks to this episode for showing me how lucky I am with my station.
They have such an interesting unit here - rescuers, firefighters, and paramedics. How is that even possible?
I can still imagine that firefighters and rescuers are in the same structure (although it seemed to me that rescuers are a separate topic, like the Ministry of Emergency Situations), but the felshers are somehow not at all close, no? What is your part in this plan?
And I have a huge question - how is it that Mills suddenly decided to go to the police, and he's like, no question, then Dawson decided to go to the fire department - she's like that too, no question - how is it at all? Aren't the police academy, the fire department, and the felshers all studying in completely different places?
They also have a billion tools here, and to unbend the car, and all sorts of endless ropes to pick up everything - do we have such rescuers?
And firefighters all have fashionable masks - how do we deal with this, do our guys in masks also enter a burning building? And we also get people first, then they just start putting out?
But these smoke chips of theirs "oh, the smoke has darkened, now everything will collapse" - are you fumbling around in all this?
But, yes, in the USA (in Canada, in Germany, it seems, in most of the world), both firefighters and paramedics (EMS) are part of the same structure. Rescuers are the same firefighters, only they have received additional training and have their own car. Rescue squad drive a squad truck(s), like Severide and his company. They have their own area of tasks, such as rescue at altitude or working with hydraulics at the scene of an accident, but, damn, any firefighter should be able to cope with hydraulics. Yes, they are similar to the Ministry of Emergency Situations, but, nevertheless, they carry out fire extinguishing work, if necessary, on a par with firefighters. This... well, everything and everyone can and should be able to do - provide first aid, cut people out of cars, cut trees, pump water out of rain-flooded basements, extinguish a fire and rescue a duckling stuck with a paw somewhere. Except for the paramedics, because they are only for first aid.
Policemen and firefighters - yes, in different ones. These two services have no common ground in this. I suspect it meant passing the tests for admission to study. Here and there, both Mills and Dawson could have contributed, and with their training, going through this is not a problem.
Of course, such tools and devices are standard, I think, for most countries. Although, of course, it seemed to me that ammunition was also the standard, but not all countries allocate money for their rescue services to have this by default. In any case, there are emergency vehicles where hydraulics (Octopus), pneumatic tools, winch, lighting and everything else is always on board.
Yes, of course, personal respiratory protection equipment (PPE) is a prerequisite for working in a smoky space. Well, I hope so, at least. That the time of the daredevils from "Reverse Thrust" has already passed. Smoke is damn carcinogenic, especially now, when sometimes you don't know what can burn, and firefighters are at very high risk of getting cancer or COPD or some other rubbish for a couple of times without a mask. No one needs it, really. Everyone wants to live and continue to do their job. And masks are not necessarily worn when working only in burning buildings. Personally, I'm not going to put out even a trash can without it, because, seriously, it's not worth it. And tactics in a fire depends on the situation - what burns, where it burns, how it burns, whether there is someone who can burn, etc. Yes, saving human lives and animal lives is the main priority in any situation in this service (fire, accident or flood - I don't care), so first, if possible, they save, and only then they begin to extinguish. Although challenges like every episode here happen... Well, rarely. In a big city - a couple of times a day, no more. Most often, there are faulty fire sensors or one or another food forgotten somewhere that starts to burn.
The color of the smoke depends on what is already burning and how much. Yes, you can determine a lot from it, and it learns more from your own experience than from the classroom, but, yes, you need to know this.
A lot of text, oh yes, but I hope I was able to answer your questions.
About "such fires happen a couple of times a day" - on the contrary, I thought a couple of times a year about
Again, it depends on the city. Chicago is a megacity, where large fires with possible victims due to the number of people occur more often than in a town of a couple thousand people. But in the city, and not in one area, as shown in the series, where, of course, there should be more drama for the sake of drama.
And I really wouldn't want Dawson and Casey to have a fight.
I like Gaby from the very beginning. And in her relationship with Matt, she was very often a friend, supported, and helped him..and romantically, there were enough sparks between them.
Fuck, I was especially surprised by the moment in the locker room. Are 4 men sitting in the locker room and complaining to a woman?
Why the fuck should she lick the lieutenants' ass? Does this position give you the right to humiliate a person?
In addition, Jones additionally scolded for daddy, who did not let her be kicked out of the academy. As she showed herself normally, the attitude towards her has changed.
And I don't think it's a matter of humiliation. This is knocking down the arrogance that Jones has through the roof. She went to complain behind her back at the academy, and did the same in the unit, although Severide told her back then that they didn't do that.
The whole problem is that she doesn't look like a very good person, and she didn't come there to save lives, but to show herself, to prove how cool she is. Did you notice how she smiled when she commanded Casey and Severide while on that crumbling staircase? She doesn't understand the seriousness, it's adrenaline for her.
So far, at least, it looks like she has nothing to do there. And it is clear that they will survive it, because a situation is very likely where their lives will depend on it. These are not toys.
And yes, it's not an army. It is more intense and stricter than the army.
FOLLOW ORDERS - CAN TEACH DIRECT EXPERIENCE ON A CALL, and not in the toilet or in the shower to scrub shit and urine to shine🤦🏼♀️(although in fact, this is a sign that the lieutenants of each squad are trying to show who is in charge here due to this)
Well, she went behind her back and said something, and so what? Who is without sin? Once you make a mistake , it doesn't mean that it will never change.
The dumbest brigade is shown next to it for contrast, have you watched the series further?
I see no point in arguing, you are gushing with emotions, and not reasoning logically.
So you don't need to try to climb into the fire monastery with your friend from the citizen's charter, calling them stupid. If there's anyone here, it's not them.
p.s. the most important thing for a firefighter is to be able to cook. It doesn't take much intelligence to hold a sleeve pointing it at the fire. They do this much less often than they cook for themselves.
What do you mean they'll break? You know that they are trained in advance and the conditions that they reproduce there are no different from a real fire and already at this stage, the insecure merge.
Can you even hear yourself? In order for your comrades to trust you, do you have to clean the toilet first? Gender? And to cook for these downs? 🤨🤦🏼♀️
Were Casey and Severide treated even worse? AND SO WHAT? DOES THIS GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO HUMILIATE OTHERS BECAUSE OF THIS OFFENSE?🤦🏻♂️
WE CONCLUDE THAT IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO COMPLICATE THIS LIFE FOR OTHERS.
INSTEAD OF QUIETLY TEACHING INTERNS: IT IS NECESSARY TO HUMILIATE THEM IN FULL, MOCK THEM AND TREAT HIM LIKE SHIT - do you know that life does not have to be complicated for everyone? You can also do nice things to people. Why take out your grievances on others?
And @vauxhall_cross is a firefighter himself, look at the comments above, well. Have you found someone to teach
You don't have to be a firefighter to make logical decisions on this topic. - according to your logic, IF I COOK POORLY, THEN I CAN'T TELL A PRO COOK THAT HE COOKED THE FOOD BADLY?
I don't even know how it all started, but it's funny to read such a cap.
First of all, no, I and people like me save this life, but people like you complicate it.
Secondly, a normal person will not join the fire department. There are no normal (tm) people among firefighters. They sit in banks and other offices, and at the slightest danger they run away from her. Firefighters run to places where they can die. A normal person wouldn't do that.
Let's move on.
Thirdly, yes, in order to be trusted, you need to clean the toilets first. It shows that you know how to obey orders. In reality, everything is not like in the series, no one dares to disobey orders. This is the basis of the work. If you are not capable of this, then no one will go into the fire with you. No one will trust you. Yes, it is interconnected, yes, it shows the level of human reliability. No, you won't understand, don't try.
And the conditions that are reproduced there are only a hundredth of a fraction closer to reality. There are dolls, burning containers twenty by ten meters, from where you can get out in seconds, and cellars filled with smoke from a smoke machine with scattered chairs and cabinets. It's nothing, it doesn't teach you anything except how to fix the door properly, it's not even real pressure, just a little physical exertion. I know what I'm saying, I go through this regularly.
And fourthly, of course, I understand that a civil brain will not understand everything that stands behind the word "colleague" or "brother/sister-firefighter", and I do not see any point in explaining this to you, but simply - if after such a gentle daisy throws words like "humiliation", "resentment" and other bullshit, then he won't make it to the second week at the Academy.
To the great happiness of everyone else, it saves time, nerves and other people's lives. For this babble...
Okay, the conversation is over, please stop writing with this cap, it looks stupid, well.
The only thing I disagree with is the fourth. I am an absolutely civilian person, but I quite understand what you are writing about, in fact, it was clear before that, so I got involved in this discussion from the beginning, because I have deep respect for all first responders.
So this is a question of normality (tm), probably.
It is a pity that there is no function to ban a user and not see his comments. I no longer have the strength to see yours.
@vauxhall_cross: Thank you, it was very interesting to read about how such a station works in reality
Casey and Gaby, don't fight, you're so cute.
I'm worried about Severide's sister and for Kayleigh himself, as for myself.
And Gaby and Shay's tandem is just in the heart!