Oh, well, Selim is so stupid, he can't do anything humanly...And Nurban also gets him drunk for some reason. Okay, when she had to get to him, then you can still say that all means are good, but now? That I have doubts about this sudden friendship between Mustafa and Bayazed with Jihangir. First, their mothers are too calm and know too little about it. Secondly, okay, Bayazed and Selim have been at loggerheads all their lives, but why did the relationship deteriorate with those two? In fact, it was also like that, wasn't it? I can't believe ... ah, Syumbul-aha...I am very glad that he got his freedom, but I thought he would still work in the palace, I did not expect that he would be taken out of the plot like this( How can we be without Syumbul-aga!((((I hope, at least there will be a new aha and not worse( Valeria jumped up. A besyachaya girl, unpleasant. Even the sultan was not sorry for her, no one sighed. Nurbanu herself, probably, was most worried about her in the end. Suleiman-Suleiman...It's so painful to watch their relationship with Mustafa go to hell...Send a caftan...((But Mustafa, of course, is good, go to the capital...Probably, he would have been an even better sultan than his father. I really liked the way Mahidevran ran to her son...And how this situation repeated itself for her. I can't imagine, to be honest, how everyone is going to hide these secret marriages and especially secret children. They won't evaporate. Especially, Khurijihan. No one will miss her, right? How did she come to Amasya so easily, and not to Beihan? And Beihan will not be surprised at all when her niece suddenly does not live with her anymore. And why should Hurrem go to Bayazed, and not to Selim, or not to choose? O_O
Sehnsucht
12 Jul 2018, 02:39 # Show original
@nens8_8y: Selim is just a jerk and since childhood he believes that the whole world treats him badly and he is being squeezed. Mustafa is probably jealous. To love Jihangir, he lacks generosity and kindness. However, he very cunningly twisted his desire to abandon the sanjak, just the genes of a vile mother.
And I feel sorry for Valeria, this murder was not necessary at all, well, in general. Hurrem is already turning into a universal evil and it is even strange that she treated Syumbul like this and gave him freedom now, in such a turbulent time.. I do not believe. In vain I hoped that Syumbul's woman would disappear and he would not find out about the deception. It was a heartfelt passage about his sealed heart and his courage to start living in the big world is very unusual.
So far, I've only watched until Suleiman dug up the caftan and just has no strength, well, holy shit, you just remembered that scene with Ibrahim (by the way, how touching he constantly smiles when he imagines Ibrahim), you told us so much about the victory of good and evil, what are you doing....
nens8_8y
12 Jul 2018, 14:07 # Show original
@Sehnsucht: no, well, I can't treat it like that: just a jerk. In my childhood, nothing like this was shown. They only talked about the fact that Selim is sensitive (and not a coward), and about the fact that he and Bayazed are competing, well, they are the weather, this is natural for children with a small age difference. So why did Selim suddenly grow up to be a jerk, and Bayazed is a darling? Just because? In fact, it was either said or will be said again that almost every son of the sultan feels that he is being squeezed. So why should Selim not feel sympathy for a non-copernicus Jihangir, for example, on the basis of general clamping? Or to seek protection from the strong brother of Mustafa? And why would the noble and honest Mustafa and Jihangir not want to be friends with their brother Selim, but choose a side? In general, all the stupid politicians in this series are some kind of stupid. No one considers it necessary to hide their intentions. No one knows that it is better to keep the enemy closer and that he thinks that he is your friend. Therefore, everyone so easily quarrels head-on with Mustafa, but they could be friends and enjoy all the benefits.
Sehnsucht
14 Jul 2018, 22:16 # Show original
@nens8_8y: You treat Selim very leniently :) He was both cowardly and weak, unfortunately, sheh-zadeh was required to become a warrior and wield a saber, he was not at all strong in this, well, it's okay, we would have forgiven him as an audience for what the sultan did not forgive, but some meanness of nature and a tendency to lie was shown in childhood. And a weakness of character. They grew up different, as always in the family, children are different from the same parents-it was laid at birth ) Mustafa was equally friends with everyone, it was over the years, when Selim started playing tricks there, he changed his attitude towards him towards some coldness. In general, Mustafa did not allow anything like this against Selim. But in friendship, like is drawn to like, Mustafa and Bayazed are similar in hot temper, honesty, strength, military abilities, sincerity. Therefore, it is logical that they are unwittingly more disposed to each other.
& gt;That's why everyone is so easy, they quarrel head-on with Mustafa, but they could be friends and enjoy all the benefits. and glory to Allah ) it would not be enough for Mustafa to have vile hypocritical people next to him, whom he would consider his friends. Don't do this!
nens8_8y
17 Jul 2018, 01:15 # Show original
@Sehnsucht: I only remember a couple of cases. For example, when Suleiman first takes Selim on a campaign, he looks about 11 years old, maybe even during the execution (it seems) Selim is sick. From the point of view of the Sultan and all his nobles, this is, of course, an unforgivable crime. But I don't think that for an 11-year-old boy this is an indicator of cowardice or weakness. I don't remember any meanness from little Selim. Only from Mihrimah.
But it's more interesting this way!)) And more plausible) In general, Mustafa has such friends that there are no enemies. For example, his beloved mother, who killed his brother.
Sehnsucht
17 Jul 2018, 03:56 # Show original
@nens8_8y: when Selim was sick or when he lost to Bayazed, he started lying and presenting the case as if nothing had happened and it was not so. He substituted a bow for Bayezed so that he would not hit the target. And then no one believed Bayazed that it was Selim who spoiled his bow. Selim grew up into a weak-willed rag and an alcoholic, and remained the same liar, to be honest. Without Nurbanu, he is completely without a steering wheel...
Yes, friends can hurt Mustafa, it's true.
Шоич
17 Sep 2018, 13:09 # Show original
@Sehnsucht: in my opinion, both are good, that Selim, that Bayazed) Bayazed is a daredevil, in general, the brain does not apply to what it does, its temper is too hot. He doesn't do his sanjak, he almost never goes there, but he sticks his nose into his brothers. He collected debts, ran to Mihrimah to ask for help. He always quarrels with Selim, most often, by the way, their quarrels are provoked by him, and he could have done more wisely - shortened the language. How many times was he told - you behave like a child, so you will not get Manisa. Every time I saw his remorse, I thought-well, that's it, he will take up his head. But no, where is there.
At least Selim solved the problem with water. Bayazed has not done anything good at home so far.
Marchi08
14 Sep 2022, 01:25 #
@nens8_8y: как же Вы не помните? Селим что-то сделал с луком Баязеда, когда у них были типо показательные выступления перед Суликом. Баязед пытался объяснить и отцу и матери, что вина Селима, и что даже Бали Бей может подтвердить как он хорошо стреляет. Но увы, Хюррем его только наказала и лишила тогда всего. Отсюда и вечная их ругань, потому что вечно верят Селиму тк он типо страше, а у Баязеда растёт вселенская ненависть ко всем из-за того, что его никто в этом деле не понимает
nens8_8y
06 Oct 2022, 18:03 # Show original
@Marchi08: OK, there really was such a case. But he was really the only one shown. Were there brothers and sisters who grew up together and never, once in their lives, never once in their entire childhood, did not frame each other, did not complain to their parents in vain, did not say or lie something? This is part of life, especially if the age difference is small, rivalry, etc.my cousin and I fought as children, he complained about me as adults, and I beat him, and then I defended him, and stood up for him. all sorts of things happened. I think everyone can remember something from the past, but give these one and a half cases such direct significance...? I don't know.
Marchi08
14 Oct 2022, 02:31 #
Просто у каждого психика устроена по-разному. То, что кому-то реально покажется мелочью, то другому крышеснос. И психологические травмы человеку даются не просто так. Недавно смотрела сериал «Метод» русский, про маньяков, так там вообще…Не дождалась с армии девчонка, а он потом каждую похожую ловил… Всё относительно
Marchi08
14 Oct 2022, 02:31 #
Не знаю дошло ли обращение. у меня не видно, что именно тебе написала )
mollycoddlez
02 Dec 2022, 17:47 #
но ведь нам не показывают всю их жизнь, а именно только важные кусочки, по которым мы делаем выводы об отношениях персонажей и их характерах. и ситуация с луком нам говорит: Баязед действует честно и прямо, горячо и необдуманно, а Селим может подгадить исподтишка, соврать и спокойно смотреть, как из-за его завистливой пакости несправедливо страдает брат
Байхор
23 Nov 2019, 21:14 # Show original
With the kaftan, a strong moment turned out. Right up to the goosebumps! Simbyuyul! Sobbing... how are we without him. Or will there be more? About Valeria while watching the series, I say to my husband, "Hurrem will not forgive her for this trip, he will probably remove it soon" and then opa! And she is flying from the balcony. Well, it just happened quickly somehow.
Linke_S
PRO
19 May 2020, 16:29 # Show original
A tense series. At first, this Valeria was cocked, but she is not at all sorry. Then this story with the caftan. Now Hurrem is being evicted. Yes, and Syumbul is gone(
Kira1964
30 Oct 2020, 02:37 # Show original
Damn, it's a pity that without Syumbulya-aga now😭 😭 😭 in general, this was the last person who was among the servants from the very beginning with Hurrem, they noticed how everyone had already either left or died (well, mostly died 🙃) Straight death walking 💀 🧟 Nazenin-khatun is not a pity at all, from the word at all. Thank God, one less splinter, and it serves her right 😁 👍 Hurrem well, sooo sorry (((again Suleiman sends her into exile 🤦 ♀ ️ as they say, the story is cyclical - The same stuff with a jacket by the way😶 very cool made a moment with this scene, just exactly repeated the past, and this is very symbolic🤭 Well, if you go back to the topic of the exile of Hurrem - I have already (as I think many) got used to it, in a couple of episodes, Hdddd will return And even more so now the heat will go with Mustafa👌 it will even be interesting if he decides to rebel against his father (I repeat - history is cyclical😂), but we already know everything how it will end. And yet something new is always very interesting, especially when it comes to all sorts of uprisings/wars among themselves/conspiracies or intrigues)) 😌😉
elmira_amy
19 Nov 2020, 03:25 # Show original
What a pity in all these intrigues of Suleiman. On the one hand, the grandfather does not see further than his nose, for which he is paid, on the other, Hurrem, what are you doing, you are driving your beloved to the grave yourself...
vk571701
18 Dec 2020, 16:31 # Show original
Kaftan stopudovo Hurrem poisoned😭 😭 something I liked Mustafa in season 4
omalyshko
25 Mar 2021, 03:26 # Show original
SYUYUMBUYUYUYUYUYUYUL, well, for what 😭 😭 Return it to nazaaad 😭 Tell me that it will appear again 😭 😭 😭 😭
oneshot_tequila
11 Jun 2021, 19:12 #
боже, Ибрагим уже 2 сезона мертв, а все не заткнется
mollycoddlez
02 Dec 2022, 17:54 #
Я ИБРАГИМ 🤡
Alyona_13
07 Feb 15:38 #
Это имя вам о чем-нибудь говорит?😂
LindemannDasha
04 Feb 2023, 18:44 #
@oneshot_tequila: даже смерть не разлучит его с Сулейманом 🤣🤣🤣
rzeynalova
30 Jul 2023, 10:48 #
Пару серий назад гадалка сказала.скоро появится Шехзаде.который в будущем станет султаном..Мурад |||😍 Если не ошибаюсь.Сулик первый раз в Манисе.после смерти Ибрагима.очень грустно.не знаю.скучал ли он в реальности так по нему.но в сериале это что то с чем то..💔
hwa_chouette
22 Feb 22:32 #
Суслик опять за своё >< Постоянно то и дело отсылает Хюррем. Когда она на 2 года пропала, он ныл, потом чуть ли не смирился. Ок, она скрыла факт тайной комнаты, но язык для чего придумали????? Как насчёт выслушать и поговорить??????
That I have doubts about this sudden friendship between Mustafa and Bayazed with Jihangir. First, their mothers are too calm and know too little about it. Secondly, okay, Bayazed and Selim have been at loggerheads all their lives, but why did the relationship deteriorate with those two? In fact, it was also like that, wasn't it? I can't believe ...
ah, Syumbul-aha...I am very glad that he got his freedom, but I thought he would still work in the palace, I did not expect that he would be taken out of the plot like this( How can we be without Syumbul-aga!((((I hope, at least there will be a new aha and not worse(
Valeria jumped up. A besyachaya girl, unpleasant. Even the sultan was not sorry for her, no one sighed. Nurbanu herself, probably, was most worried about her in the end.
Suleiman-Suleiman...It's so painful to watch their relationship with Mustafa go to hell...Send a caftan...((But Mustafa, of course, is good, go to the capital...Probably, he would have been an even better sultan than his father.
I really liked the way Mahidevran ran to her son...And how this situation repeated itself for her.
I can't imagine, to be honest, how everyone is going to hide these secret marriages and especially secret children. They won't evaporate. Especially, Khurijihan. No one will miss her, right? How did she come to Amasya so easily, and not to Beihan? And Beihan will not be surprised at all when her niece suddenly does not live with her anymore.
And why should Hurrem go to Bayazed, and not to Selim, or not to choose? O_O
And I feel sorry for Valeria, this murder was not necessary at all, well, in general. Hurrem is already turning into a universal evil and it is even strange that she treated Syumbul like this and gave him freedom now, in such a turbulent time.. I do not believe.
In vain I hoped that Syumbul's woman would disappear and he would not find out about the deception. It was a heartfelt passage about his sealed heart and his courage to start living in the big world is very unusual.
So far, I've only watched until Suleiman dug up the caftan and just has no strength, well, holy shit, you just remembered that scene with Ibrahim (by the way, how touching he constantly smiles when he imagines Ibrahim), you told us so much about the victory of good and evil, what are you doing....
In general, all the stupid politicians in this series are some kind of stupid. No one considers it necessary to hide their intentions. No one knows that it is better to keep the enemy closer and that he thinks that he is your friend. Therefore, everyone so easily quarrels head-on with Mustafa, but they could be friends and enjoy all the benefits.
Mustafa was equally friends with everyone, it was over the years, when Selim started playing tricks there, he changed his attitude towards him towards some coldness. In general, Mustafa did not allow anything like this against Selim. But in friendship, like is drawn to like, Mustafa and Bayazed are similar in hot temper, honesty, strength, military abilities, sincerity. Therefore, it is logical that they are unwittingly more disposed to each other.
& gt;That's why everyone is so easy, they quarrel head-on with Mustafa, but they could be friends and enjoy all the benefits.
and glory to Allah ) it would not be enough for Mustafa to have vile hypocritical people next to him, whom he would consider his friends. Don't do this!
But it's more interesting this way!)) And more plausible) In general, Mustafa has such friends that there are no enemies. For example, his beloved mother, who killed his brother.
Yes, friends can hurt Mustafa, it's true.
At least Selim solved the problem with water. Bayazed has not done anything good at home so far.
Simbyuyul! Sobbing... how are we without him. Or will there be more?
About Valeria while watching the series, I say to my husband, "Hurrem will not forgive her for this trip, he will probably remove it soon" and then opa! And she is flying from the balcony. Well, it just happened quickly somehow.
Nazenin-khatun is not a pity at all, from the word at all. Thank God, one less splinter, and it serves her right 😁 👍
Hurrem well, sooo sorry (((again Suleiman sends her into exile 🤦 ♀ ️ as they say, the story is cyclical - The same stuff with a jacket by the way😶 very cool made a moment with this scene, just exactly repeated the past, and this is very symbolic🤭 Well, if you go back to the topic of the exile of Hurrem - I have already (as I think many) got used to it, in a couple of episodes, Hdddd will return
And even more so now the heat will go with Mustafa👌 it will even be interesting if he decides to rebel against his father (I repeat - history is cyclical😂), but we already know everything how it will end. And yet something new is always very interesting, especially when it comes to all sorts of uprisings/wars among themselves/conspiracies or intrigues)) 😌😉
Если не ошибаюсь.Сулик первый раз в Манисе.после смерти Ибрагима.очень грустно.не знаю.скучал ли он в реальности так по нему.но в сериале это что то с чем то..💔
Постоянно то и дело отсылает Хюррем. Когда она на 2 года пропала, он ныл, потом чуть ли не смирился.
Ок, она скрыла факт тайной комнаты, но язык для чего придумали????? Как насчёт выслушать и поговорить??????