@rogueFOX: Orson loved her too. She was very wise with Keith. She understands that he is young and he wants children. That Fleur's infatuation with them will pass and he will not be happy with her. And this is the way to nowhere. She let him go very wisely and correctly.
@rio_suerte: in principle, all this is correct. However, the psychology of a man is arranged in such a way that choosing between a child and a woman, he will choose a woman. For women, it's the opposite. Keith could have just visited the baby at first, and then picked him up. But his "problem" with his father did not allow him to make a balanced choice. And most likely Bree wasn't as important as we thought...
A wonderful series about how parents influence our lives. That children need to be given direction and pushed forward so that they achieve success, even if it can be unpleasant and difficult. The main thing is to always show them that they are loved and that they are proud of them, even despite their failures. Otherwise, the output will be such an internally broken person like Beth. What a bitch Felicia is-she ruined the life of such a good girl.
@AnnaKolpakova: but specifically about this I would say a well-known phrase: if you want to feed a person once, give him a fish. If you want to feed him for life, teach him how to fish.
Poor Paul. The whole series shows us what a wonderful family they had, that he was a kind man. And how everything went wrong after the suicide. Why is he being made a monster? After all, it was his wife who killed that drug addict, his wife committed suicide out of guilt. And because of the blackmail of a crazy old woman. I don't understand Zack's hatred and claims.
@Iradakzlv: and I understand Zach, Paul is a murderer, he and Zach's foster mother are to blame for the death of his real mother, and then Paul killed another woman who wanted to expose them, plus Paul lied to him all his life, try to figure out such a situation for yourself.
@Aerials: Paul had never abused Zach before Mary Alice's suicide. Zack's hatred came out of nowhere at the behest of the screenwriters to whip up drama. Paul raised Zach and treated him well. Zach is being selfish in general, the first season and his intrigue are the best in the series, I'm glad that Paul is back! Charismatic actor
@id109844011: maybe you forgot, but Paul isolated Zach from friends and neighbors, ignored his nightmares and terrible flashbacks - seeing how his son suffered, he sent him to a psychiatric hospital, but forbade psychotherapy with him - he did not care about Zach's condition, he was only afraid for his skin, so that Zach would not be seen by anyone He told me nothing superfluous. And then Paul literally held Zach hostage, pumping him with tranquilizers, not letting him come to his senses. This is not to mention the constant verbal abuse, control, threats, humiliation, manipulation and lies, as well as the denial of the right to learn about his background and his past.
I don't understand this idea, why you need to drive away your loved ones, decide for them what will be best for them, and the main idiocy is that in this series one person immediately does what another person told him, although before that he thought completely differently. Is it so easy to confuse someone else's mind? Why did Bree send Keith away? Let the man decide for himself. It seems that she really doesn't need him that much, otherwise what's the point of pushing a loved one into the arms of another woman he doesn't love.
@Sehnsucht: she didn't send her away, it's just that the child is really more important than the new passion, even if you love her. he would have realized it later, and Bree would still be guilty.
Она же сказала, что разница в возрасте имеет значение и что она всегда знала, что этот роман не навсегда. Это ее решение, а его решение - уехать к сыну, никто никого никуда не толкает. Поступки взрослых людей.
I feel sorry for Paul. I think he's had a lot of shit happen in his life that he just can't believe in real feelings anymore. But Beth really seemed to love him.
@RinaAri: Sorry for both of them. this pair is much better than Bree's improbable feelings for Carl, then for a new nouname for a couple of episodes. I'm sick of it already, I came - I saw - I fell in love - they already live together, every first one makes an offer a week later. All partners of interest become available in a couple of episodes. The screenwriters clearly have problems with fantasy. There can be no non-reciprocity, no obstacles other than the death of the character that needs to be removed?
Damn, I feel so sorry for Paul... Why does everyone dislike him so much, I don't understand?! My son hates it so much... Yes, he killed that nasty aunt from the first season, but no one knows about it, in my opinion. I don't understand Zach at all, but maybe I missed something.
And I felt sorry for his wife, I believe that she fell in love with him. And it's sad that he didn't find out, it's very hard to think that no one loves you, not even your own son...
Everything is very cruel with Susan. Hopefully, they'll find her a kidney soon, Mike will earn money and they'll return to Fairview. Well, how does she remind me of Lenka Gilbert this season (:
Bree did well and very well, well done. Lynette, too, actually. And how did she have the strength to let her boys go. Steel.
Gabi is gorgeous in this series, I really liked that there is a place where she is a super star and the main asset, I was happy for her as for myself. :) Carlos the driver is something xD In general, he is a great fellow who supports her. They're a great couple. And a nun is darkness, terrible both externally and internally... How tired of these sanctimonious aunts who dare to blame a child whose whole life goes awry because of their limitations.
And I still hope that Paul will forgive his wife and everything will be fine with them. Both crippled souls, they should be together.
The moment when the twins moved into the next house is very funny))) Bree and Kit are cute. Linnet has become much prettier this season) Who would have thought at the beginning of the series that the couple Gabi and Carlos would love it so much, it's so cool to watch them
I don't understand sympathy for Gender. A child will never love you if you take him away from his real mother and lie all his life, and then if you also somehow directly or indirectly influence her death - that's crazy for a person. Think for yourself, here you have your own mother, and everything could have been different, she could have had problems, you were taken away and raised by other people and did not tell you anything, and then your adoptive mother killed the biological one. It's a tin can... imho poor Zach.
Ну близнецы и сцену разыграли, переезжая в соседний дом МакКласки 😀. Хорошо, что Линет сама признала, что по большому счету сама виновата в не самостоятельности сыновей. Кит был, пожалуй, самый адекватный из мужчин Бри, хоть и было понятно, что их отношения не продлятся долго. Габи в лучах славы в родном городке была забавна).
@a1087268: линия Кит- Бри полностью вымучена. С ее стороны - физиология, с его вообще хрен пойми что. Тут должны быть глубокие комплексы в отношении с матерью, что он ищет новую мать в лице женщины намного старше, а этому не уделили никакого внимания. Какой профит молодому мужику встречаться с 50 - летней? Или сколько им там? Выглядят они не очень, хоть все и вопят, какие они красотки.
Почему Майку так безразличен стал Зак? В первом сезоне он очень проникся, что нашел сына, о котором не знал. А потом стало резко по фиг вплоть до этой серии? Очередной ляп
@id109844011: потому что Зак когда-то давно сказал, что у него один отец - Пол. Потом у Майка потеря памяти была. Зак сам не особо желал общаться с Майком и это можно понять, Майк скорее всего не стал навязываться.
Сцена с Габи и монашкой отличная. Габи все время прячет чувства за шоппингом, развлечениями даже от самой себя. Единственно - случай с Грейс выбил её из колеи совсем. Хорошо, что она наконец выговорилась, а Карлос заботливо ей помог. Сначала они были так себе парочкой, два манипулятора, но приятно смотреть, как из персонажи меняются, сохраняя характер и очарование из первых сезонов.
Я ревела на сцене расставания Бри и Кита 😭. Это так больно… Очень жаль, что и в кино и в жизни зачастую отношения с разницей в возрасте обречены, хоть люди могут так идеально подходить друг к другу. Бри была и остаётся любимейшим персонажем, через столько всего прошла и осталась мудрой и здравомыслящей женщиной, которая никогда не предаёт свои ценности в виде семьи.
Как можно сравнивать диабет с потерей одной почки и деформацией второй? Совсем долбанутый мудак🤦♀️ Еще пошел бы раковым больным рассказал, как ему, бедняжке, тяжело живется. Карлос слишком сильно давит на Габи, а у нее срабатывают психологические защиты, потому что в ее прошлом очень много боли, с которой крайне тяжело справиться. Очень жаль ее. Близнецов давно пора было вышвырнуть, парочка бытовых инвалидов
She was very wise with Keith. She understands that he is young and he wants children. That Fleur's infatuation with them will pass and he will not be happy with her. And this is the way to nowhere. She let him go very wisely and correctly.
if you want to feed a person once, give him a fish. If you want to feed him for life, teach him how to fish.
Yes, he's a little gloomy, but, damn, he's a deeply lonely and unhappy man...
in general, the first season and his intrigue are the best in the series, I'm glad that Paul is back! Charismatic actor
And then Paul literally held Zach hostage, pumping him with tranquilizers, not letting him come to his senses. This is not to mention the constant verbal abuse, control, threats, humiliation, manipulation and lies, as well as the denial of the right to learn about his background and his past.
Zach has every reason to hate Paul, and more.
And I felt sorry for his wife, I believe that she fell in love with him. And it's sad that he didn't find out, it's very hard to think that no one loves you, not even your own son...
Everything is very cruel with Susan. Hopefully, they'll find her a kidney soon, Mike will earn money and they'll return to Fairview. Well, how does she remind me of Lenka Gilbert this season (:
Bree did well and very well, well done. Lynette, too, actually. And how did she have the strength to let her boys go. Steel.
Gabi is gorgeous in this series, I really liked that there is a place where she is a super star and the main asset, I was happy for her as for myself. :) Carlos the driver is something xD In general, he is a great fellow who supports her. They're a great couple. And a nun is darkness, terrible both externally and internally... How tired of these sanctimonious aunts who dare to blame a child whose whole life goes awry because of their limitations.
And I still hope that Paul will forgive his wife and everything will be fine with them. Both crippled souls, they should be together.
Bree and Kit are cute.
Linnet has become much prettier this season)
Who would have thought at the beginning of the series that the couple Gabi and Carlos would love it so much, it's so cool to watch them
Габи тоже жаль, к сожалению, такие ситуации часто встречаются в жизни(
Очень жаль, что и в кино и в жизни зачастую отношения с разницей в возрасте обречены, хоть люди могут так идеально подходить друг к другу.
Бри была и остаётся любимейшим персонажем, через столько всего прошла и осталась мудрой и здравомыслящей женщиной, которая никогда не предаёт свои ценности в виде семьи.
Еще пошел бы раковым больным рассказал, как ему, бедняжке, тяжело живется. Карлос слишком сильно давит на Габи, а у нее срабатывают психологические защиты, потому что в ее прошлом очень много боли, с которой крайне тяжело справиться. Очень жаль ее. Близнецов давно пора было вышвырнуть, парочка бытовых инвалидов