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s07e17 — Everything's Different, Nothing's Changed

Desperate Housewives — s07e17 — Everything's Different, Nothing's Changed

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Duration: 43 min.
Released: 03.04.201104.04.2011 05:00
Watched by: 73 86361.49%
7 season
s07e17
s07e13 - I'm Still Here
s07e14 - Flashback
s07e15 - Farewell Letter
s07e16 - Searching
s07e17 - Everything's Different, Nothing's Changed
s07e18 - Moments in the Woods
s07e19 - The Lies Ill-Concealed
s07e20 - I'll Swallow Poison on Sunday
s07e21 - Then I Really Got Scared

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muser
muser
28 Jul 2015, 20:48 #
А где работает Бри? Она же продала свою компанию, сын не работает, Кита больше не с ней, тогда откуда она берет деньги?
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Weraaleksand21
Weraaleksand21
27 Aug 2015, 15:17 #
@muser: well, do you think while she had a company, she didn't earn enough? Andrew bought a house without any problems, an expensive car. I think she's had enough...
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Fadelena
Fadelena
09 Sep 2015, 17:49 #
@muser: besides, Rex kind of left it to her too
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Barrowman_Rory
Barrowman_Rory
19 Aug 2016, 11:09 #
@muser: Even before the foundation of the business, I was always surprised by this...
All(!) Bree's men lived with her. And she was able to support her husbands, children and herself for many years...How rich was Rex, since he provided his wife with such a long comfortable existence?
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morena
morena
14 Jan 2017, 16:59 #
@Barrowman_Rory: doctors in the USA receive very large salaries
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rio_suerte
rio_suerte
18 Oct 2020, 03:32 #
@muser: I think she still gets a lot of money for her book. You can live very well for a long time on copyright. Plus, she apparently managed to accumulate enough capital over her entire life and marriages so that he would already work for her. Americans are very financially literate people, especially rich Americans. No one from PO to PO lives there with rare exceptions. Everyone has accumulated wealth, the rich have capital that is multiplying.
Plus, it seems to me she didn't sell the company, but rewrote it to this guy from last season. Perhaps she remained a shareholder who receives passive income. This company was built on her name though.
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SantaJul
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19 Oct 2020, 19:31 #
Are Americans financially literate? Don't make me laugh. You have correctly described the rich, but everyone else lives in perpetual loans and this is the norm for them, and there is no question of any savings there.
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nens8_8y
nens8_8y
12 Oct 2016, 01:17 #
Yes, look only at the poor and destitute Scavo and Delfino. To have and maintain your own house, at least a couple of cars, pay for college, and support 7 people in a family is low income. There is no comparison with our realities.
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vk594813
vk594813
12 Mar 2017, 23:41 #
Only I feel sorry for Paul Young? Felicia seems to me as always hypocritical, and his emotions are sincere.
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rogueFOX
rogueFOX
24 Sep 2017, 03:44 #
@vk594813: and beth is sorry. She's not bad, just unlucky with her mother. She really wanted a family, a loving person, and here she lost everything
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DigitalCrystal
DigitalCrystal
19 Dec 2017, 12:26 #
It became creepy from Felicia's smile at the end of the series...
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Tristia
Tristia
16 Jul 2020, 06:39 #
@DigitalCrystal: Was it my imagination, or did she have all her fingers when she prayed? One more moment in the piggy bank of blunders))
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ватаджер
ватаджер
25 Apr 2023, 13:51 #
@Tristia: fingers are still not everything
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Watka
Watka
11 Feb 13:16 #
@Tristia: в этой серии ещё Линнет в оранжевом ходит, а в пиццерии терпеть не могла носить футболки оранжевые)
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id18379359
id18379359
02 Jan 2018, 19:13 #
Why is Susan so worried about the kidney, if she can give it to Bree!
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vitrea
vitrea
03 Feb 2018, 15:55 #
@id18379359: I think Bree didn't say
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Mrs_Bennington
Mrs_Bennington
13 Feb 2018, 01:39 #
@vitrea: didn't say what?

upd: I got it.) Well, I've been thinking about it too. maybe if things hadn't worked out with Beth, she would have offered.
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dearpenny
dearpenny
07 Sep 2020, 02:17 #
I think she would have given up her kidney if she found out
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Olgan81
Olgan81
19 Aug 2023, 11:43 #
@dearpenny: мне кажется нет! Она эгоистка самовлюбленная
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aanastasiasshev
aanastasiasshev
17 Dec 2020, 10:29 #
Somehow it would be unwise in this situation to sacrifice your kidney... Bree was ready to do it and even persuaded Beth to give in to her, but since Beth is dead... 🤷🏼‍♀️
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Fata_Morgana
Fata_Morgana
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28 Feb 2018, 12:46 #
Despite everything, I feel very sorry for Paul Young😔
Felicia is disgusting👎🏻
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Iradakzlv
Iradakzlv
26 Oct 2018, 21:39 #
Poor Paul.. when will he finally be happy? Unhappy man, offended by life..
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vk198776
vk198776
30 Jan 2019, 00:30 #
I can't imagine how Paul feels right now. even for such an ambiguous character, I had some kind of sympathy, or something...after all, in fact, now he has no one left but his son. I hope everything will be fine with Zach
after all, no matter what, everyone deserves forgiveness sooner or later
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snowflvke
snowflvke
04 Sep 2022, 23:12 #
I didn't expect it from myself, but at the moment when he came to Susan, I burst into tears. Although a series ago, she called him the last words
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vk198776
vk198776
30 Jan 2019, 00:32 #
special thanks to the series for revealing such a topic alcoholism. I don't like it when this case is romanticized, but here alcohol addiction is shown as a very serious problem ~
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veer
veer
22 Feb 2019, 09:12 #
@vk198776: and in the Clone series, the topic of drug addiction is very deeply revealed, from the most important side.
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wooolfsons
wooolfsons
25 Oct 2019, 15:39 #
After watching the clone at a conscious age, I stopped even looking at alcohol, I just keep silent about everything else.
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Alinielis
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01 Feb 2021, 05:36 #
@veer: and what year's TV series are we talking about? I Googled and found a few. Yandex outputs Brazilian. Is that him?
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veer
veer
01 Feb 2021, 22:39 #
@Alinielis: yes Brazilian, which is about 2000 year of release.
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Crystal_Witch
Crystal_Witch
08 May 2019, 17:08 #
Why does she celebrate the arrival of spring on April 10? It's understandable for us, but they have heat all year round.
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eva4ka2000
eva4ka2000
07 Aug 2019, 13:50 #
@Crystal_Witch: Why 10 when she said "the first Sunday in April"? And what is the strangest thing at the beginning of the series, Renee asks Susan "Will you come to me on Saturday"?. Or it's all about translation..
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rio_suerte
rio_suerte
18 Oct 2020, 03:36 #
@Crystal_Witch: In the States, the seasons are marked a little differently. They do not correspond to the calendar. For example, their summer begins in mid-June, ends in September, and so on.
Filming of the series took place in Los Angeles. There is no year-round heat, there is a temperate climate. In summer it is hot and dry, and in winter it is 15-20 degrees during the day, and in the evenings and at night the temperature can drop to 3-4 degrees.
According to the plot of the series, their street and city are generally in the Chicago area somewhere. That is, there is winter and snow. It's just a cinematic assumption, since they have both the state and the city invented, then they nominally do not show the winter. There is no reference to the weather at all.
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kozhepiaka
kozhepiaka
28 Sep 2021, 02:31 #
@rio_suerte: and where does it say about the climatic similarity with Chicago? Christmas in Fairview is celebrated not only without snow, but as if in Florida
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klaria
klaria
23 Mar 2023, 00:21 #
Spring break is usually celebrated, it is tied to Easter and just begins at the end of March or in April.
And Renee seems to have come from New York and could bring the tradition from there.
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shevnevv
shevnevv
22 Aug 2019, 16:16 #
Surprise! ... Kidney!
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Sehnsucht
Sehnsucht
08 Oct 2019, 14:45 #
In my opinion, Susan is crossing the boundaries in her altruism, I don't really believe in it. When there is a direct threat to life, your son and daughter will be left without a mother.. it is scattered by the kidneys. I don't care that this classmate will follow you around, you will live!

Beth shot herself, although she is very sorry, of course, but there is no reason to give up her life for her. I probably sound cruel, but the thirst for life is a strong thing, and sitting like this sorting out "morally-not morally" is somehow unnecessary in Susan's situation.

And I agree with Renee's words about Beth: everyone has problems, but not everyone shoots themselves in the head. I sympathize with Beth and appreciate her act of giving a kidney, but it was stupid to shoot.
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ЖибекШотанова
ЖибекШотанова
01 Nov 2023, 22:55 #
@Sehnsucht: «стрелять было глупо», «Сьюзен переходит границы в альтруизме» 🙄🙄. Так цинично судить можно только по ту сторону экрана, не переживая те самые события лично. А на деле, это всё очень сложные вопросы, на которые сложно сделать однозначный вывод, стоит ли брать почку от человека, который покончил жизнь с самоубийством, и вообще «правильно» ли пускать себе пулю в висок.
Я до последнего момента не понимала как Рене может так относиться к смерти человека, неважно каким образом это произошло, пока не поняла, что люди всегда так реагируют из своих личных травм. Но как-то это все равно всё неправильно судить людей по таким поступкам. Это жизнь, мы все люди и не всегда можем мыслить и поступать рационально и отстранённо, с расчётом.
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koaala
koaala
24 Oct 2019, 11:06 #
@Sehnsucht: Beth is very weak mentally, and then her husband rejected her, her mother suppressed her all her life and refused her, there are no friends - so she couldn't stand it.
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aanastasiasshev
aanastasiasshev
17 Dec 2020, 10:32 #
Weak, weak, but what tricks did she do with Paul when she was still sure that he was a murderer and their marriage was a game
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sobolev
sobolev
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27 Dec 2019, 03:35 #
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Dazhur
Dazhur
23 Mar 2020, 17:35 #
@sobolev: is it difficult to stop now?
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Olgan81
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19 Aug 2023, 12:49 #
@Dazhur: это для красного словца
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RinaAri
RinaAri
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28 Dec 2019, 02:22 #
Pity Paul! He's just a man who's been hit by misfortunes. Which led to him making mistake after mistake. And Beth's mother didn't seem so upset. That's amazing, so from the fact that Paul killed her sister, she was furious and ready to do anything to take revenge, but when her daughter died, there was no despair in her. And in general, to send a daughter to a man who killed her sister, what kind of mother would do that!?
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Dazhur
Dazhur
23 Mar 2020, 17:36 #
@Nighteyes: She is mentally ill
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varvarenya
varvarenya
06 Feb 2020, 04:52 #
Such touching scenes with Andrew and Bree, Susie and Paul at the end
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varvarenya
varvarenya
06 Feb 2020, 04:57 #
Paul Young is an ambiguous character, but if you look at his life, you feel sorry for him. The son is crazy, and now he's a drug addict who hates him. The first wife killed herself, then the second. He served ten years in prison. I helped my wife to remove the corpse of my son's biological mother. The neighbors hate him. It's just a nightmare...
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rio_suerte
rio_suerte
18 Oct 2020, 03:39 #
@shstkvsk: But he still nailed the neighbor himself.
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aanastasiasshev
aanastasiasshev
17 Dec 2020, 10:34 #
Well, there was such a neighbor.....
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id159635624
id159635624
06 Jun 2020, 09:26 #
again, they are being wise with age. Last season, Tom said he was about to turn 40, and now he's suddenly 46🤨
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Etrniiity_wnoo
Etrniiity_wnoo
29 Oct 2020, 17:38 #
I still don't know who is how old at all😅
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ttikhonova99
ttikhonova99
21 Jul 2023, 16:09 #
@id159635624: for some reason I thought that several years of their life passed steadily between seasons...
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Eviltea97
Eviltea97
05 Jul 2020, 22:57 #
Oh, I really feel sorry for Paul. The whole series is just being blown by everyone around him, and he made a mistake over and over again, simply because others saw him as a villain. If this psycho still kills him herself, it will even be a shame.
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SantaJul
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05 Oct 2020, 13:07 #
I like the kind Floor much more, I even felt sorry for him
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Etrniiity_wnoo
Etrniiity_wnoo
29 Oct 2020, 15:06 #
That strange feeling when I tried with all my might to restrain pity for Paul, but it was in this episode that I even somehow got into him. It's really a pity that it happened this way. I think he was really hurt by Felicia's words that Beth really loved him, and he began to blame himself.

I'm glad that Bree and Andrew still have a dialogue, I believe that everything will be fine.

By the way, Renee fits into the series quite harmoniously. It's not Edie, of course, but the character is also interesting when her feelings are revealed.

And you know, there is a little lack of this childish fuss in the Scavo family, when the boys were not so grown up.. it's even sad somehow. I haven't finished watching the series yet, but I already want to review it again😂
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Etrniiity_wnoo
Etrniiity_wnoo
29 Oct 2020, 15:09 #
That's what's interesting, do you think Catherine will come back again? Somehow they quickly forgot about it.. Although they left just to "deal with feelings"
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misspolli
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23 Nov 2020, 23:46 #
This Felicia gives me the creeps...
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Jemm
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06 Mar 2021, 02:08 #
And why aren't Bree and Andrew going to see a psychologist together? Well, at least they started pouring out their souls to each other....Although, I still said it loudly. But when Andrew started crying, my heart just squeezed😅💔
Linnet has such an image of a stewardess😁she actually somehow prettier straight. But the character is the same.. At the sight of profit and prospects, she immediately forgot how Carlos helped her family at one time. He even hired Tom back then when she was on maternity leave. Well, somehow I don't understand, honestly. I still don't like her manipulations, like with a car, for example.
I've been sorry for Paul for a long time. Felicia is a vile witch, she would rather be sent after her sister and daughter...
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kozhepiaka
kozhepiaka
28 Sep 2021, 02:40 #
@Pearl: how would Carlos fire Linnet at the most difficult moment - when they were at the very bottom, also in a position. And he didn't look that she was supposed to become his vice president

And he did not get Tom a job out of remorse - but as a thank you for saving Celia during the plane crash

I completely agree with Linnet - Carlos would not hesitate for a second if he received such an offer
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klaria
klaria
23 Mar 2023, 00:28 #
@kozhepiaka: but Tom is not Carlos, and he hardly wants to be like that, and Lynette herself hardly wants a husband like Carlos.
She just doesn't respect Tom at all.
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kozhepiaka
kozhepiaka
24 Mar 2023, 00:56 #
@klaria: the same feeling when I received a response to a comment 2.5 years ago))
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kurbasovatati
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02 Jan 21:46 #
@kozhepiaka: ой, я так читаю комментарии от 2020 года, и для меня это - сейчас. А потом задумываюсь, и понимаю, что нет, четыре года назад уже...
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Sofi_Snegireva
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02 May 2021, 13:33 #
I cried at the moment when Bree and Andrew were talking, and also when Sue was comforting Paul, I hope they will become friends in the future...I think Paul deserves it, he has suffered so much grief...
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Aerials
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15 Jul 2021, 08:54 #
Oh, how sorry for Paul blablabla... Ugh, people, how can you sympathize with him. Paul deserved the shit that fell on him.
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Griglow
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20 Aug 2021, 10:12 #
Paul is hypocritical. I never liked this character.
Then he drives his wife with piss rags, then he plans to kill her (or whatever he wanted to do with her when they were going to a country house), and right now he realized everything and such a sucky musi is my wife, she's not a car uaaaa... That's nonsense.
I love Lynette, but this manipulation of sex is fuu.. All housewives are guilty of this, but she is somewhat more often
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kozhepiaka
kozhepiaka
28 Sep 2021, 02:45 #
@Dev6th: At the "not a car" moment, he wanted to annoy Susan. He immediately said when he just got a call from the hospital: "If the brain doesn't work, then she's dead and we need to turn off the machines," and when he found out that she was a donor, he perked up

And he wanted to annoy Felicia too-and keep Beth in a coma for her evil. But apparently, this old witch pitied him. Imho

In what, in what and in hypocrisy it is difficult to accuse him. He did not hide his hatred and contempt for anyone on the street.
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Griglow
Griglow
28 Sep 2021, 19:27 #
@kozhepiaka: он лицемерный. В первых сезонах когда соседи к нему приходили после смерти Мэри Элис, он от них отнекивался. Понятное дело, что его злило что они больше за сплетнями идут, чем соболезновать. Он убил Марту, да та довела его жену до самоубийства, но все равно это не повод ее душить. А он ходил и делал вид что все отлично. Не поддерживаю сестру Марты в ее мести, но блин Пол не был невинным лялей. А когда его посадили он обозлился на всю улицу, ой вы меня даже не навещали бубубу..
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a1087268
a1087268
17 Nov 2021, 01:29 #
Линет все таки знает, как влиять на психику, особенно на психику Тома:).
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why_not
why_not
12 Jun 2022, 20:27 #
пола так жалко стало💔💔
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13freiheit
13freiheit
12 Oct 2022, 22:30 #
Линнет в самом деле хорошо знает своего мужа) мне казалось, она переборщила, но нет, как всегда нет)
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fb998554
fb998554
12 Dec 2022, 18:59 #
Делайте со мной всё, что хотите, но этой парочке такая тачка не идёт 🤷‍♀️
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rueful_dream
rueful_dream
20 Dec 2022, 23:56 #
Безумно трогательная серия, одна из лучших в сезоне
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Sophie_suffix
Sophie_suffix
02 Feb 2023, 22:28 #
А где внебрачная дочь Тома? Про нее все забыли?
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irka_zal
irka_zal
27 Mar 2023, 22:31 #
У бабушки с дедушкой
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AlGoRyThM
AlGoRyThM
26 Feb 2023, 01:25 #
Линнет в шаге от "разбитого корыта". С таким отношением к Тому, зачем вообще было за него выходить. Хотя её "любовь" к детям и неуёмное желание построить карьеру, как нельзя лучше описывает, что происходит в голове этого персонажа. До щелчка Судьбы "по носу", остались секунды...
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TatianaBlunt
TatianaBlunt
08 Mar 2023, 23:44 #
Очень очень жалко Бетт. Ведь она не плохая была ведь правда. Просто слишком верила в людей. В сцене Пола и Сьюзен стало жалко пола.
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TatianaBlunt
TatianaBlunt
08 Mar 2023, 23:46 #
П.с все думала где я видела актрису Бетт. Она играла в Бесстыжих дочь Фрэнка ещё одну
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TheEvilQueen
TheEvilQueen
04 Jun 2023, 13:29 #
Почему Линетт просто не вернуться на работу к Карлосу, Тому не согласиться на выгодное предложение, и не нанять младшей дочке няню? Линетт права, отказываться от такого предложения - идиотизм, когда у тебя на шее пять человек, у матери деменция, детям нужно оплачивать колледж, а тебе уже под пятьдесят. Это они еще Кайлу не вспоминают, а ей наверняка тоже нужна была бы финансовая поддержка.
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fb877283
fb877283
17 Jun 2023, 23:06 #
Я ждала этот комментарий 🙌🏻
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ubulem
ubulem
29 Sep 2023, 06:45 #
@TheEvilQueen: ну у Линетт есть работа, они же с Рене агентство держат, и неизвестно еще где она больше может получать: у Карлоса или у Рене.
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id165383750
20 Sep 2023, 01:58 #
Совершенно не понимаю почему все жалеют Пола. Какого фига? Все забыли, сколько жести он сделал? Тем более жену он выгнал сам, в чувства её не поверил. Ни капли его не жалею. Думаю это его карма настигла!
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leahscharf
leahscharf
18 Feb 22:51 #
Сука! Даже после смерти за тебе решения принимает "grieving husband"! Даже нельзя спокойно подяку отдать и застрелиться!!!
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chezhinatv
chezhinatv
17 Mar 21:34 #
In the end, she burst into tears with Paul 😭💔
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