@muser: well, do you think while she had a company, she didn't earn enough? Andrew bought a house without any problems, an expensive car. I think she's had enough...
@muser: Even before the foundation of the business, I was always surprised by this... All(!) Bree's men lived with her. And she was able to support her husbands, children and herself for many years...How rich was Rex, since he provided his wife with such a long comfortable existence?
@muser: I think she still gets a lot of money for her book. You can live very well for a long time on copyright. Plus, she apparently managed to accumulate enough capital over her entire life and marriages so that he would already work for her. Americans are very financially literate people, especially rich Americans. No one from PO to PO lives there with rare exceptions. Everyone has accumulated wealth, the rich have capital that is multiplying. Plus, it seems to me she didn't sell the company, but rewrote it to this guy from last season. Perhaps she remained a shareholder who receives passive income. This company was built on her name though.
Are Americans financially literate? Don't make me laugh. You have correctly described the rich, but everyone else lives in perpetual loans and this is the norm for them, and there is no question of any savings there.
Yes, look only at the poor and destitute Scavo and Delfino. To have and maintain your own house, at least a couple of cars, pay for college, and support 7 people in a family is low income. There is no comparison with our realities.
Somehow it would be unwise in this situation to sacrifice your kidney... Bree was ready to do it and even persuaded Beth to give in to her, but since Beth is dead... 🤷🏼♀️
I can't imagine how Paul feels right now. even for such an ambiguous character, I had some kind of sympathy, or something...after all, in fact, now he has no one left but his son. I hope everything will be fine with Zach after all, no matter what, everyone deserves forgiveness sooner or later
special thanks to the series for revealing such a topic alcoholism. I don't like it when this case is romanticized, but here alcohol addiction is shown as a very serious problem ~
@Crystal_Witch: Why 10 when she said "the first Sunday in April"? And what is the strangest thing at the beginning of the series, Renee asks Susan "Will you come to me on Saturday"?. Or it's all about translation..
@Crystal_Witch: In the States, the seasons are marked a little differently. They do not correspond to the calendar. For example, their summer begins in mid-June, ends in September, and so on. Filming of the series took place in Los Angeles. There is no year-round heat, there is a temperate climate. In summer it is hot and dry, and in winter it is 15-20 degrees during the day, and in the evenings and at night the temperature can drop to 3-4 degrees. According to the plot of the series, their street and city are generally in the Chicago area somewhere. That is, there is winter and snow. It's just a cinematic assumption, since they have both the state and the city invented, then they nominally do not show the winter. There is no reference to the weather at all.
@rio_suerte: and where does it say about the climatic similarity with Chicago? Christmas in Fairview is celebrated not only without snow, but as if in Florida
Spring break is usually celebrated, it is tied to Easter and just begins at the end of March or in April. And Renee seems to have come from New York and could bring the tradition from there.
In my opinion, Susan is crossing the boundaries in her altruism, I don't really believe in it. When there is a direct threat to life, your son and daughter will be left without a mother.. it is scattered by the kidneys. I don't care that this classmate will follow you around, you will live!
Beth shot herself, although she is very sorry, of course, but there is no reason to give up her life for her. I probably sound cruel, but the thirst for life is a strong thing, and sitting like this sorting out "morally-not morally" is somehow unnecessary in Susan's situation.
And I agree with Renee's words about Beth: everyone has problems, but not everyone shoots themselves in the head. I sympathize with Beth and appreciate her act of giving a kidney, but it was stupid to shoot.
@Sehnsucht: «стрелять было глупо», «Сьюзен переходит границы в альтруизме» 🙄🙄. Так цинично судить можно только по ту сторону экрана, не переживая те самые события лично. А на деле, это всё очень сложные вопросы, на которые сложно сделать однозначный вывод, стоит ли брать почку от человека, который покончил жизнь с самоубийством, и вообще «правильно» ли пускать себе пулю в висок. Я до последнего момента не понимала как Рене может так относиться к смерти человека, неважно каким образом это произошло, пока не поняла, что люди всегда так реагируют из своих личных травм. Но как-то это все равно всё неправильно судить людей по таким поступкам. Это жизнь, мы все люди и не всегда можем мыслить и поступать рационально и отстранённо, с расчётом.
@Sehnsucht: Beth is very weak mentally, and then her husband rejected her, her mother suppressed her all her life and refused her, there are no friends - so she couldn't stand it.
Pity Paul! He's just a man who's been hit by misfortunes. Which led to him making mistake after mistake. And Beth's mother didn't seem so upset. That's amazing, so from the fact that Paul killed her sister, she was furious and ready to do anything to take revenge, but when her daughter died, there was no despair in her. And in general, to send a daughter to a man who killed her sister, what kind of mother would do that!?
Paul Young is an ambiguous character, but if you look at his life, you feel sorry for him. The son is crazy, and now he's a drug addict who hates him. The first wife killed herself, then the second. He served ten years in prison. I helped my wife to remove the corpse of my son's biological mother. The neighbors hate him. It's just a nightmare...
Oh, I really feel sorry for Paul. The whole series is just being blown by everyone around him, and he made a mistake over and over again, simply because others saw him as a villain. If this psycho still kills him herself, it will even be a shame.
That strange feeling when I tried with all my might to restrain pity for Paul, but it was in this episode that I even somehow got into him. It's really a pity that it happened this way. I think he was really hurt by Felicia's words that Beth really loved him, and he began to blame himself.
I'm glad that Bree and Andrew still have a dialogue, I believe that everything will be fine.
By the way, Renee fits into the series quite harmoniously. It's not Edie, of course, but the character is also interesting when her feelings are revealed.
And you know, there is a little lack of this childish fuss in the Scavo family, when the boys were not so grown up.. it's even sad somehow. I haven't finished watching the series yet, but I already want to review it again😂
That's what's interesting, do you think Catherine will come back again? Somehow they quickly forgot about it.. Although they left just to "deal with feelings"
And why aren't Bree and Andrew going to see a psychologist together? Well, at least they started pouring out their souls to each other....Although, I still said it loudly. But when Andrew started crying, my heart just squeezed😅💔 Linnet has such an image of a stewardess😁she actually somehow prettier straight. But the character is the same.. At the sight of profit and prospects, she immediately forgot how Carlos helped her family at one time. He even hired Tom back then when she was on maternity leave. Well, somehow I don't understand, honestly. I still don't like her manipulations, like with a car, for example. I've been sorry for Paul for a long time. Felicia is a vile witch, she would rather be sent after her sister and daughter...
@Pearl: how would Carlos fire Linnet at the most difficult moment - when they were at the very bottom, also in a position. And he didn't look that she was supposed to become his vice president
And he did not get Tom a job out of remorse - but as a thank you for saving Celia during the plane crash
I completely agree with Linnet - Carlos would not hesitate for a second if he received such an offer
@kozhepiaka: but Tom is not Carlos, and he hardly wants to be like that, and Lynette herself hardly wants a husband like Carlos. She just doesn't respect Tom at all.
I cried at the moment when Bree and Andrew were talking, and also when Sue was comforting Paul, I hope they will become friends in the future...I think Paul deserves it, he has suffered so much grief...
Paul is hypocritical. I never liked this character. Then he drives his wife with piss rags, then he plans to kill her (or whatever he wanted to do with her when they were going to a country house), and right now he realized everything and such a sucky musi is my wife, she's not a car uaaaa... That's nonsense. I love Lynette, but this manipulation of sex is fuu.. All housewives are guilty of this, but she is somewhat more often
@Dev6th: At the "not a car" moment, he wanted to annoy Susan. He immediately said when he just got a call from the hospital: "If the brain doesn't work, then she's dead and we need to turn off the machines," and when he found out that she was a donor, he perked up
And he wanted to annoy Felicia too-and keep Beth in a coma for her evil. But apparently, this old witch pitied him. Imho
In what, in what and in hypocrisy it is difficult to accuse him. He did not hide his hatred and contempt for anyone on the street.
@kozhepiaka: он лицемерный. В первых сезонах когда соседи к нему приходили после смерти Мэри Элис, он от них отнекивался. Понятное дело, что его злило что они больше за сплетнями идут, чем соболезновать. Он убил Марту, да та довела его жену до самоубийства, но все равно это не повод ее душить. А он ходил и делал вид что все отлично. Не поддерживаю сестру Марты в ее мести, но блин Пол не был невинным лялей. А когда его посадили он обозлился на всю улицу, ой вы меня даже не навещали бубубу..
Линнет в шаге от "разбитого корыта". С таким отношением к Тому, зачем вообще было за него выходить. Хотя её "любовь" к детям и неуёмное желание построить карьеру, как нельзя лучше описывает, что происходит в голове этого персонажа. До щелчка Судьбы "по носу", остались секунды...
Почему Линетт просто не вернуться на работу к Карлосу, Тому не согласиться на выгодное предложение, и не нанять младшей дочке няню? Линетт права, отказываться от такого предложения - идиотизм, когда у тебя на шее пять человек, у матери деменция, детям нужно оплачивать колледж, а тебе уже под пятьдесят. Это они еще Кайлу не вспоминают, а ей наверняка тоже нужна была бы финансовая поддержка.
Совершенно не понимаю почему все жалеют Пола. Какого фига? Все забыли, сколько жести он сделал? Тем более жену он выгнал сам, в чувства её не поверил. Ни капли его не жалею. Думаю это его карма настигла!
All(!) Bree's men lived with her. And she was able to support her husbands, children and herself for many years...How rich was Rex, since he provided his wife with such a long comfortable existence?
Plus, it seems to me she didn't sell the company, but rewrote it to this guy from last season. Perhaps she remained a shareholder who receives passive income. This company was built on her name though.
upd: I got it.) Well, I've been thinking about it too. maybe if things hadn't worked out with Beth, she would have offered.
Felicia is disgusting👎🏻
after all, no matter what, everyone deserves forgiveness sooner or later
Filming of the series took place in Los Angeles. There is no year-round heat, there is a temperate climate. In summer it is hot and dry, and in winter it is 15-20 degrees during the day, and in the evenings and at night the temperature can drop to 3-4 degrees.
According to the plot of the series, their street and city are generally in the Chicago area somewhere. That is, there is winter and snow. It's just a cinematic assumption, since they have both the state and the city invented, then they nominally do not show the winter. There is no reference to the weather at all.
And Renee seems to have come from New York and could bring the tradition from there.
Beth shot herself, although she is very sorry, of course, but there is no reason to give up her life for her. I probably sound cruel, but the thirst for life is a strong thing, and sitting like this sorting out "morally-not morally" is somehow unnecessary in Susan's situation.
And I agree with Renee's words about Beth: everyone has problems, but not everyone shoots themselves in the head. I sympathize with Beth and appreciate her act of giving a kidney, but it was stupid to shoot.
Я до последнего момента не понимала как Рене может так относиться к смерти человека, неважно каким образом это произошло, пока не поняла, что люди всегда так реагируют из своих личных травм. Но как-то это все равно всё неправильно судить людей по таким поступкам. Это жизнь, мы все люди и не всегда можем мыслить и поступать рационально и отстранённо, с расчётом.
I'm glad that Bree and Andrew still have a dialogue, I believe that everything will be fine.
By the way, Renee fits into the series quite harmoniously. It's not Edie, of course, but the character is also interesting when her feelings are revealed.
And you know, there is a little lack of this childish fuss in the Scavo family, when the boys were not so grown up.. it's even sad somehow. I haven't finished watching the series yet, but I already want to review it again😂
Linnet has such an image of a stewardess😁she actually somehow prettier straight. But the character is the same.. At the sight of profit and prospects, she immediately forgot how Carlos helped her family at one time. He even hired Tom back then when she was on maternity leave. Well, somehow I don't understand, honestly. I still don't like her manipulations, like with a car, for example.
I've been sorry for Paul for a long time. Felicia is a vile witch, she would rather be sent after her sister and daughter...
And he did not get Tom a job out of remorse - but as a thank you for saving Celia during the plane crash
I completely agree with Linnet - Carlos would not hesitate for a second if he received such an offer
She just doesn't respect Tom at all.
Then he drives his wife with piss rags, then he plans to kill her (or whatever he wanted to do with her when they were going to a country house), and right now he realized everything and such a sucky musi is my wife, she's not a car uaaaa... That's nonsense.
I love Lynette, but this manipulation of sex is fuu.. All housewives are guilty of this, but she is somewhat more often
And he wanted to annoy Felicia too-and keep Beth in a coma for her evil. But apparently, this old witch pitied him. Imho
In what, in what and in hypocrisy it is difficult to accuse him. He did not hide his hatred and contempt for anyone on the street.