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The Fall — s03e06 — Their Solitary Way

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Duration: 60 min.
Released: 28.10.201628.10.2016 23:00
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3 season
s03e06
s02e04 - The Mind Is Its Own Place
s02e05 - The Perilous Edge of Battle
s02e06 - What Is in Me Dark Illumine
s03e01 - Silence and Suffering
s03e02 - His Troubled Thoughts
s03e03 - The Gates of Light
s03e04 - The Hell Within Him
s03e05 - Wounds of Deadly Hate
s03e06 - Their Solitary Way

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Porter92
Porter92
29 Oct 2016, 12:09 # Show original
Season 3 may have been too slow, but it was worth shooting it at least for this episode. A worthy finale of a masterpiece series. It's a pity for Stella, she didn't manage to punish Specter for his crimes according to the law.
alexk984
alexk984
10 Nov 2016, 19:42 # Show original
@Porter92: What was the big deal about this episode? I haven't seen the answers to a bunch of questions that have been accumulating this season. The series was stupidly leaked, apparently because of ratings or some other problems. This season does not add up to a single picture, a set of disparate episodes turned out.
Kate_Vesna
Kate_Vesna
29 Oct 2016, 17:13 # Show original
The ending really suits the spirit of the series, especially the first two seasons. It turned out to be realistic: it seems that "evil" is over, but the victory of "good" is not too joyful.
bolmatino
bolmatino
29 Oct 2016, 22:09 # Show original
@Kate_Vesna: in stories with murders, there can be no joyful victory for good a priori. Neither too joyful, nor weakly joyful. Let the killer at least sit down, at least die. The victims will not be resurrected anyway and the grief of the families will not decrease from this. No wonder many people working in this field often drink a lot and many get drunk.
bolmatino
bolmatino
29 Oct 2016, 22:04 # Show original
A meaningless season and a stupid ending. It was obvious that this season they simply had nothing to really shoot about and they pulled it as best they could. It would be better to finish everything in the second season, but without this shot.
Murderers like Paul don't kill themselves. This is confirmed by psychology, psychiatry and the accumulated experience of the behavior of real maniacs and serial killers. They live for years in prisons or have died from the death penalty. And Paul's character is not suicidal. Such violent, selfish people with inflated self-esteem, inflated sense of self-worth and superiority do not even have thoughts of suicide.
Judging by who he was shown in the first two seasons, then he had to either escape and be in touch with Stella periodically, torturing her and entertaining himself, or sit down and write letters to her from prison for the same purpose. Then they had a direct connection, and then he abruptly scored on it. The season has a bad scenario. We wanted to surprise with an unexpected ending, because it does not fit into the character of Paul, but more came out "I don't believe" than "wow, class".
Tiro
Tiro
30 Oct 2016, 14:30 # Show original
@bolmatino: so the ending should be in the style of Hannibal? (I'm talking about the movie)
bolmatino
bolmatino
31 Oct 2016, 20:06 # Show original
@Tiro: I've only seen the Silence of the lambs, so I can't say. But there should be no suicide in any case. Not that type.
vazhin
vazhin
01 Nov 2016, 22:40 # Show original
@bolmatino: I think suicide may also be related to his amnesia. Not purely of course a la "Island of the damned". But there is a certain dissonance of two personalities within the Gender. The way out of the conflict was death in this case
Mike-lost
Mike-lost
24 Oct 2017, 02:55 # Show original
@vazhin: I agree with you. If we assume that the whole season before us was the Floor of the 2006 sample, when he had not yet made his final Fall, his Collapse, then that Floor could well have committed suicide. Especially after all these conversations and analyses of his childhood, after the emphasis on his mother, on his attachment to her, on how she hung herself on the door, on what happened to him in the orphanage. Everything comes from childhood.
Although the fact that he attacked Gibson can be interpreted almost with certainty that there is no amnesia.
In general, everyone chooses for himself. For me, the ending is very organic.
antons
antons
30 Oct 2016, 15:14 # Show original
@bolmatino: He stood in front of the mirror and said that he was no longer the same as he was. Something tells me that the near-death state and possible amnesia changed him. What if he assessed himself from the outside and drew conclusions? Besides, I'm sure he always wanted to know how his victims felt. So I found out.

It's actually a great season with a great ending. It's just logically different from all the other seasons. It was necessary to put a point.
bolmatino
bolmatino
31 Oct 2016, 20:03 # Show original
@antons: he didn't have amnesia. There were many hints about this. And he reacted to Stella, and he shouldn't have with amnesia. He said that he wasn't like that, and the body wasn't his. He's a psycho, or rather a sociopath. Such things could not change him, and rethinking is impossible for him. You are already idealizing it.
vazhin
vazhin
01 Nov 2016, 22:48 # Show original
@bolmatino: The conclusion that there was no amnesia is at least controversial. Just because he reacted doesn't mean he remembered. Perhaps his subconscious reacted and gave such an exhaust. Yes, he did not remember a large chunk, but he did not become a different person at the same time. It's more of a hodgepodge of his late dark personality and the remnants of the best part of him. There are hints of this, too. I think here in this regard the final is open. Everyone can choose the option closer. Maybe of course there are specific explanations of the creators, I'm not familiar with.
bolmatino
bolmatino
04 Nov 2016, 07:23 # Show original
@vazhin: well, what a mess? Even if there was amnesia, he had already killed before that period, which he allegedly does not remember. Most likely, he killed more than once, but only this time it was possible to accurately identify. This is judging from his diaries. He kept his diary with these sick thoughts even before the amnesia period, i.e. he already had his dark personality in full swing during the period that he remembered exactly and which was before the amnesia. Even if there was amnesia, he just found out that he had killed several more. But he did not learn anything radically new about himself. Therefore, there was no meeting of the two Sexes and psychological difficulties against this background, which could cause a change in his personality and lead to suicide.
vazhin
vazhin
04 Nov 2016, 16:53 # Show original
@bolmatino: Again: "I've already killed more than once," "in the midst of" "I didn't learn anything new." There are no direct indications for this. The murder could be one and not premeditated, the diary as the only way of self-expression for developing inclinations. Everything is not unambiguous and that's good.
bolmatino
bolmatino
19 Dec 2016, 18:37 # Show original
@vazhin: of course, you can believe what you want. But if the authors wanted to endow him with real amnesia and the struggle of the two Sexes, they would have shown it. Just this could enliven the season. Make it interesting. It would add color to the character. They also showed how Paul was going through the separation from his wife. But this was not done at all about amnesia. Absolutely did not show how Paul experienced this situation personally. Whether he suffered. On the contrary, there were many hints that all this was fiction. He showed it well enough when he opened up to his lawyers and beat Stella.
SvetikWolf
SvetikWolf
28 Jul 2021, 10:10 # Show original
@antons: for me, I think. When he said in front of the mirror that he was not the same as before. I understood it as the fact that he is not perfect now, his body is not perfect, he is not handsome. I think it was important to him. But that's how it seemed to me. In general, somehow it doesn't add up a little, he loved his children very much, and then he abruptly scored on them and committed suicide, he didn't even leave a note. He did it harshly, in cold blood. Although he can do so, a dream prompted him. He also dreamed of jumping from a skyscraper. Maybe we didn't fully understand the whole message of this moment, feelings and emotions.
retr0
retr0
01 Nov 2016, 20:36 # Show original
@bolmatino: So it was suicide out of spite, wasn't it? Stella took him out, he attacked - but did not feel that he had won. I decided to win by my suicide.
bolmatino
bolmatino
04 Nov 2016, 07:17 # Show original
@retr0: as a person who has a professional attitude to psychiatry and psychology, I can say that such suicide is not peculiar to the Gender that was shown in the first two seasons. Neither for evil, nor out of a desire to escape justice, nor out of self-pity and inability to survive failure. I repeat, he would either run away, or he would sit down and get Stella out of prison with calls and promises to tell about the victims who were not identified. He would talk about them once a year, forcing Stella to come to him, tormenting her and having fun with it.
yuko_san
yuko_san
05 Jul 2019, 16:34 # Show original
@bolmatino: why not? after all, it happens that a murderer who is not subject to suicidal tendencies passes away just like that. Precisely because he is narcissistic and arrogant, and thus expresses his protest, as if winning against the opponent.
Although I'm also more inclined to believe that Paul could easily have come up with a plan and run away, and it's unclear why he suddenly decided to stop everything. But that's the whole series. Banal and boring.
bolmatino
bolmatino
14 Apr 2021, 10:35 # Show original
@yuko_san: where does it happen? in TV shows? can you give an example from real life?
avachka1991
avachka1991
PRO
02 Nov 2016, 00:01 # Show original
@bolmatino: I got the idea that he didn't want to kill himself after all, or changed his mind at the very end. The proof of this is the hand with which he wanted to reach the package, but he no longer had the strength. I think he still just wanted to feel what it was like... Although maybe there was a purposeful idea to kill yourself to spite everyone
bolmatino
bolmatino
04 Nov 2016, 07:18 # Show original
@avachka1991: many suicides change their minds at the end and try to save themselves. With this moment, everything is just fine.
proustfiend
proustfiend
05 Jul 2022, 18:35 # Show original
@avachka1991: I think it was a self-preservation instinct
Stasek
Stasek
13 Nov 2016, 16:36 # Show original
@bolmatino: It just seems to me that everything is logical. When he found out that it was Stella who was shouting "we're losing him", and all in order for him not to escape justice so easily, he experienced a real collapse, most likely at that moment he remembered everything and realized that the connection between them was only in his head. And the beating of Stella, no matter how terrible it sounds, is perhaps the only manifestation of ordinary human emotions such as impotence and despair, before that there was only a cold calculation of a sick mind.

And then he returns to his sick self, and realizes that the best punishment for Stella will be the inability to see the guilty verdict and give the victims' families at least a little sense of revenge, and he, as usual, prudently puts his plan into action.
And this has nothing to do with suicidal tendencies, this is just another murder of him, where one person acts as the executioner and victim, himself.

And in this regard, the final episode is very good, although it leaves us devastated alone with ourselves and a glass of wine in our hand.
yuko_san
yuko_san
05 Jul 2019, 16:37 # Show original
@Stasek: I think you're quite right.)
cockiness
cockiness
13 Jan 2021, 03:04 # Show original
I totally agree!
Marissa
Marissa
PRO
19 Aug 2021, 11:29 # Show original
@Stasek: I agree with you. And also, I think he was very hurt and humiliated by the fact that Stella pulled out information about the orphanage. She humiliated him and mocked him. That's why he attacked her. He didn't want anyone to find out about this orphanage, he always wanted to seem strong and controlling.
Amelу
Amelу
08 May 2022, 15:05 # Show original
@Stasek: I agree with you. The most likely explanation, otherwise the others judge as if they watched the episode through their fingers
proustfiend
proustfiend
05 Jul 2022, 18:37 # Show original
@Stasek: the most reasonable explanation!
GreenSky
GreenSky
18 Nov 2016, 03:37 # Show original
@bolmatino: Paul lived on the edge, and could die at any moment, it didn't really bother him. Everyone's characters are different, and they are not based on typical ideas of what a certain person's behavior should be. Even apart from that, his personality, as for me, was not based entirely on egocentrism, but more on fear and a desire to fill the void. The prison/hospital would not have given him that. And his daughter's knowledge of who her father was is a rather dubious part of his acceptance of life. But in general, he had no options for that either.
yuzvir
yuzvir
14 Jan 2018, 04:19 # Show original
@bolmatino: A normal and logical ending. In the last episodes, everything is explained. Paul had been thinking for a long time about either somehow starting to move on like everyone else after his mother's suicide and boarding school, or rip off. Nietzsche got carried away there, practiced experiments with strangulation and hurt others in order not to think about his own, chose the appropriate profession, worked on a suicide hotline, even started a family like everyone else. In general, I tried everything, almost like the bound Rose then, but nothing helped. Well, what finished him off was that the doctor thought that he was no longer being treated.
Antis_Sekyt
Antis_Sekyt
16 Aug 2022, 22:53 # Show original
@bolmatino: I fully support Paul and his psychotype. He has never been suicidal. In general, a complete maniac did not come out of the Floor, some kind of mess. He tried to believe in philosophy, and the screenwriters gave him a difficult childhood, and he had a choice of deviations, and an internal struggle... You can keep listing it, but he's actually a pretty flat character. If someone else had played it worse, it would have looked like a pale toadstool.
yo_helga
yo_helga
21 Oct 2023, 20:56 # Show original
Just the same, his suicide fit perfectly into his narcissism, he was in the style of "bite it, bitches, don't get pleasure from my capture!"
+ he was ashamed! That everyone eventually found out that he was actually the pet of that pedophile and he was raped for a whole year. It was precisely his inflated ego that could not withstand such a "loss of reputation", because he wanted to seem like a kind of uber man who understood the meaning of life and committed murders not out of ordinary manic-sexual deviant impulses, but out of a "higher purpose". In general, everything looks quite logical to me)
yo_helga
yo_helga
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bro_mccracken
bro_mccracken
29 Oct 2016, 22:24 # Show original
The moment when you don't understand - is the thread of the narrative really problematic to decipher, or was the season just leaked, and all your questions have a right to exist?
jast_a_girll
jast_a_girll
29 Oct 2016, 22:32 # Show original
After watching the last episode, there was some kind of sediment with the feeling that I was somewhere very in Bali, sorry for my French. In fact, the entire plot of season 3 could fit into a maximum of 4 episodes. Why was it necessary to stretch everything so much? And this heart-to-heart conversation between Stella and Katie somehow looks far-fetched.That is, before that, Katie was all crazy about the Field, she didn't want to hear anything else, everyone was lying, he was only telling the truth, and then suddenly bang, and she was sitting so decorously and peacefully listening to Stella's story and, most importantly, it seemed that she understood the essence of what was said.
It seemed that Spector just hung himself to spite Stella, then what prevented him from "walking away in English" from her after a bullet wound? Somehow, it doesn't make sense to me in this place. And I agree with bolmatino's comment that Spector somehow didn't look like a suicidal man at all.
If seasons 1 and 2 can safely be given all 5, then the third, alas, pulls only 4, and then with an advance for the previous two seasons and of course for the brilliant game of Anderson and Dornon.
Evangely
Evangely
31 Oct 2016, 19:36 # Show original
@jast_a_girll: In what sense - what prevented him from leaving in the second season? They washed down two whole episodes for us, showed how the doctors pulled him out of the dead, and Stella participated. So it didn't work out the first time, I had to take matters into my own hands :) Well, in general, I agree, it would be more logical to stop at 2 seasons. Against the background of the first two seasons, he was very pumped up..
jast_a_girll
jast_a_girll
01 Nov 2016, 00:08 # Show original
@id344276410: well, in the most direct way. We were clearly shown the moment of the borderline state of Gender between life and death. Not everything has to do with how hard the doctors pulled him out. But this is another topic for conversation) So, going back to that moment, Paul at first clearly followed the voice of his mother, i.e., to death, but after hearing the voice of his daughter, whom apparently he still loved, he returned to life. Well, you could say that it was because of her that he returned. And now, in the finale, we are shown how he takes and hangs himself like his mother, thereby completely spitting on his daughter. That's why it's not logical that he, being in such a state, clung to life at the beginning of season 3, and calmly said goodbye to it at the end.
Of course, if he had left some kind of message or letter to Stella with his last word, maybe his suicide would have become more or less clear, but so, for me personally, some kind of inconsistency came out.
retr0
retr0
01 Nov 2016, 20:38 # Show original
@jast_a_girll: Aren't all these conversations in the hospital with a nurse just for show? He insinuated himself into the trust, said that they expected him to.
jast_a_girll
jast_a_girll
11 Nov 2016, 05:19 # Show original
@retr0: showing off what? For me, all these conversations he had with the nurse about the white bull, another proof of his calculated actions.
novemberain
novemberain
30 Oct 2016, 02:16 # Show original
The first two seasons with the action itself were more interesting than the third, with a monotonous explanation of these actions....
But overall it's a great series and thanks to the creators that there are not 10-15 episodes in the season :-)
wikto
wikto
30 Oct 2016, 05:03 # Show original
This series is about mental scars, that everything has its consequences, that everyone has their own past, which will not cease to influence the present. Paul Spector was left by his parents, which became a tragedy for him and after which his life went downhill. It is ironic that the poor girl, Paul's daughter, also lost a normal and happy life with her parents - her father was gone, her mother had already gone crazy. Some kind of endless chain of ruined lives. And other heroes have so much pain inside - from loss, from love, from anger. It's all sad.
Novusus
Novusus
30 Oct 2016, 06:52 # Show original
The season is superfluous and about nothing. It was worth finishing with 2 seasons, everything ended logically there. Here, they really tortured the plot for 6 episodes, in which absolutely nothing happened that would actually somehow change the previously placed accents. Plus suicide in the final is a fail, it's not at all in the spirit of the Spectrum
To cut the water from the series and make 2 episodes and release it in a hurry is an ideal way to end the story
Filadora
Filadora
30 Oct 2016, 10:06 # Show original
The psychiatrist will have a lesson for life. It was necessary to listen to Stella's words that the Spectrum is VERY insidious and dangerous. They would have put a straitjacket on him, or at least handcuffed him, and no excesses. But the doctor is so "smart", why should he listen?.. now I understand the meaning of the title of the series. The spectrum has made everyone: doctors , police officers, and the judicial system. If there is no defendant, the case is over. One thing calms me down is that the bastard will never knock on anyone's door again.
anico
anico
17 Nov 2016, 21:56 # Show original
@Filadora: I agree with you. There are such orders in this hospital for dangerous mental maniacs that it's amazing how this doesn't happen every day. Everyone is walking around, billiards with cues, they would also give knives.
kaluginnn
kaluginnn
PRO
13 Dec 2016, 02:41 # Show original
@Filadora: Actually, to put it mildly, I was shocked when Spector was taken to a mental hospital after the attack on Stella. The guards delivered him and took off his handcuffs, and he went to his room so affectionate and fluffy. And the staff behaves with him as if nothing had happened and that's how it should be. Isn't that crazy?
Filadora
Filadora
30 Oct 2016, 10:17 # Show original
Jamie Dornan played the Spectrum just fine. What kind of eyes, what kind of face - everything inspires confidence. The realization that maniacs are just like that is just creepy. Dornan's role was definitely a success!
blind_gj
blind_gj
04 Nov 2016, 03:07 # Show original
@Filadora: I completely agree!
but personally, his look terrifies me (especially when he looked clearly into the camera in the last episode)
and so yes, this is his role!
SvetikWolf
SvetikWolf
28 Jul 2021, 10:25 # Show original
@Filadora: well, he succeeds in bastards much more than vanilla cuties)
But the role is his. His cold gaze, which gives you goosebumps. Actions, movements, a calculating mind that he managed to show with his facial expressions. It was quite interesting to watch him play, not so much physically, but psychologically. How clearly he managed to convey the image of a maniac.
apnea
apnea
30 Oct 2016, 14:06 # Show original
It's a good series...
Tiro
Tiro
30 Oct 2016, 14:34 # Show original
The season turned out to be ambiguous. Everything went smoothly, with occasional bursts. But, in my opinion, Paul hanged himself on purpose, showing this by the fact that he was not caught/sued after all. He did not go through this trial, as if he had the last word. Of course, I would like a different ending. But what should it be, so as not to repeat itself?
antons
antons
30 Oct 2016, 15:17 # Show original
50 shades of blue
Satellite
Satellite
PRO
30 Oct 2016, 22:34 #
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stasovna
stasovna
30 Oct 2016, 22:37 # Show original
For me, the perfect ending for such a series is: Paul is dead, it seems like good has triumphed, but somehow everything is wrong.
The season turned out to be very dramatic, intimate, slow with bursts. I liked..
KateMilk
KateMilk
PRO
31 Oct 2016, 00:24 # Show original
a completely unnecessary season of some kind, the characters did not reveal themselves somehow more or on the other hand, although they could have done so in 6 episodes.
The fact that the logical ending for Paul is death is understandable, but it was enough to kill him in the second season, then it would look like fate, fatality
sally_ride
sally_ride
31 Oct 2016, 14:46 # Show original
at the end of the episode, the anxiety did not leave. There was a feeling that Paul had somehow devilishly deceived everyone and was about to appear outside Stella's window. I wonder what will happen in a hurry?
Evangely
Evangely
31 Oct 2016, 19:44 # Show original
I was just blown away when he attacked Stella! For some reason, I expected this turn the least. Still, the creators found something to surprise at the end. I think the season is superfluous, but perhaps the special edition will explain something to us, I hope so. A very strange precipitation from this season. Bravo to the actors, I believed in every word.
Evangely
Evangely
31 Oct 2016, 20:04 # Show original
I'll add it. Until the last second, I had the feeling that Spector was fucking everyone again...
Yes, people like Paul don't kill themselves, they like to kill others. Mentally and physically. And as soon as he heard from Stella the reason why he had to survive, he made a decision. I think he knew how many lives would be crippled by such an outcome of the case, everything became even worse than it could have been. And he left undefeated, everything was in his hands.
If the series had ended before the shot was fired, this gloomy effect would have been lost. But the season was really badly delayed, I think that it would be possible to cut out a lot without losing meaning.
Bravo to the actors, I believed every word and look!
dj-zil
dj-zil
03 Nov 2016, 22:27 # Show original
@id344276410: cleverly veiled checkmate )
Selene27
Selene27
02 Nov 2016, 04:33 # Show original
Well, from the Spector-Stella confrontation, the killer emerged the clear winner. Although, it probably corresponds to the atmosphere of the series.
He thought it all out and planned, first came up with amnesia, then realized that it would not work, because the police had found a murder earlier, from a period that he "remembers". Then he "took a walk" for the last time - stuffed everyone's muzzles, killed the patient and committed suicide. because it was this act that no one expected him to do and it mixed the cards for all the other players in the process. Although suicide does seem out of character for Spector, it became the ultimate revenge for Stella - she so wanted to convict him and put him in prison, a whole team of doctors saved him after a bullet wound... She personally told him during the interrogation that death would be too easy a punishment for him.

Season 3 seemed to be delayed, all the action fit into the last episode.
Still, I think it was possible to finish after season 2. That ending was more impressive and memorable.
imdepressed
imdepressed
PRO
02 Nov 2016, 17:42 # Show original
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Claude_Speed
Claude_Speed
02 Nov 2016, 19:46 # Show original
Suddenly
Chipik_
Chipik_
02 Nov 2016, 23:29 # Show original
Not a bad ending, about what I expected
blind_gj
blind_gj
04 Nov 2016, 03:09 # Show original
an incomprehensible feeling from the ending....
either it has not yet dawned on me that this is the end, or I did not expect Spector
's suicide, I still cannot determine my feelings. But! the series definitely has 5 points!
bolmatino
bolmatino
04 Nov 2016, 07:11 # Show original
I didn't like this season not only because of the ending and the very unnecessary delay, but also because of the change in the reason for Paul's actions. In the first two seasons, everything was presented in such a way that he was born evil. The daughter was shown doing strange things, hinting that she had inherited her father's deviation. He disowned pedophilia in his childhood. Now he was exposed as a victim of a pedophile with a difficult childhood and that, as it were, formed his essence as a murderer. The daughter was already shown to be completely normal without any deviations in behavior. There is a very big jamb in this. If his essence is acquired, then why did they show the strange behavior of their daughter, who clearly could not inherit it then? If it is innate, then why drag in this pedophilia, giving reasons for sympathy for him?
For me personally, the series started well, but ended poorly with a change in the plot outline and characters of the characters. Perhaps the fault is the lack of thought of the screenwriters or the increased employment of both main actors, so they could not remove something intelligible and pulled the rubber by what they managed to take out in a short period.
yonoi
yonoi
11 Dec 2016, 03:24 # Show original
@bolmatino: and in what place does having a tendency contradict bullying in childhood? not everyone who was raped as a child becomes a sexual maniac. It also says that all the boys in that orphanage were harassed. Did they all become murderers? No, just Paul. He went to kill people, so there was a tendency. A difficult childhood is not an excuse or a reason for sympathy in this case.
bolmatino
bolmatino
19 Dec 2016, 19:05 # Show original
@yonoi: That's what they brought out this season. Otherwise, why did they devote so much time to this, if not to cause a feeling of empathy? Why did they expose a pedophile as a victim if they had previously denied it, which personally pleased me, because I was sick of this cliche of childhood violence from a maniac.
By the way, not everyone was raped. This was said by the second guy from the shelter, some escaped this fate. And nowhere did they say how the fate of all the others turned out, maybe not only Paul went to kill.
And where did I write that having a tendency contradicts bullying in childhood? In the series, two versions of the reason for Paul's behavior were raised and both were merged. Plus, they added that he had seen his mother's death, which again could negatively affect him and form a tendency to his hobbies. But again, why do this if in previous seasons it was hinted that he was naturally evil and his daughter took after him? They just filled a place in the season, they had to pull it somehow, so they shot it just to take it off and it doesn't matter that there are contradictions to previous seasons.
anderhimmel
anderhimmel
24 Nov 2022, 02:45 # Show original
@bolmatino: Stella said very well that it was because of rage. And then there was even more rage in the shelter, which was intertwined with excitement. In his case, it gave this result. As an option.
dani_b
dani_b
05 Nov 2016, 10:26 # Show original
So many questions and so few answers. So many lines that were just leaked in the ass. What about the Spectrum family? Why are all these stories about Stella with men? Why drag out this tension between Stella and Spectrum for two seasons? What is the result of amnesia? Why was there a line about this girl at all? Why the scene about the "breakup" of his lawyers? Why is everyone so deeply depressed? Literally everything? And so on and so forth...
the first two seasons were incredibly gorgeous. The third one was also nice to watch, but it didn't make any sense at all. I didn't believe everything that was happening even once. It was either necessary to finish on the second, or let the Spectrum escape and terrorize Stella.
fosya
fosya
06 Nov 2016, 03:35 # Show original
So, I have one question — I can still put up with the rest — why did he kill this guy, who made all the fuss at Paul's request?
wikto
wikto
06 Nov 2016, 14:42 # Show original
@fosya: So you feel most sorry for the psycho who raped and killed the poor girl?
fosya
fosya
13 Nov 2016, 03:05 # Show original
@wikto: you have an interpretation error now. I didn't raise the question of pity at all.
Ophella
Ophella
08 Nov 2016, 07:10 # Show original
@fosya: because Paul is a sociopathic maniac and sympathized with children (+ violence against him in the past), he decided to restore "justice".
fosya
fosya
13 Nov 2016, 03:12 # Show original
@Ophella: well, the version of "restoring justice" somehow doesn't really stick with Paul's position, in my opinion. Judging by his attitude towards people, he was not really touched by other people's experiences and ideas about the norm. It was something extremely out of character for him, driven by the moment, or something
Delfina
Delfina
15 Nov 2016, 02:44 # Show original
@Ophella: In my opinion, justice has nothing to do with it. The murder of this guy is another detail of Paul's well-thought-out plan: to organize a mess; hide in a room that will be locked and not immediately searched, hang himself. And this guy could have prevented him, torn the package, made a noise, so Paul eliminated this option by killing the guest of the room.
Vakshja
Vakshja
29 Nov 2016, 19:12 # Show original
@fosya: for the way he treated his sister. If he'd just broken her arm, Paul wouldn't have killed him. But Mark also raped her, and threw her under a garbage truck to the pile. I think unconsciously, but Paul allowed the thought that what if this had happened to Olivia? Hence the anger
Dolorous
Dolorous
29 Nov 2016, 22:28 # Show original
@Vakshja: so when he killed women himself, he didn't think that the same thing could happen to Olivia)
Vakshja
Vakshja
30 Nov 2016, 00:22 # Show original
@Dolorous: here he has mania and fetishism, passion. Yes, and mb age played a role)
cockiness
cockiness
13 Jan 2021, 03:13 # Show original
Most likely because of his action and yes, so as not to interfere
Leennon
Leennon
29 Aug 2022, 01:03 # Show original
@fosya: in one of the episodes, someone said that Paul hates it when children are offended, and this psycho turned out to be over his sister. No wonder there was a question about the age of the sister, apparently, if she was an adult, she deserved it herself, but the child...
Ophella
Ophella
08 Nov 2016, 07:15 # Show original
Most of all in the season, I was struck by the carelessness with which the homicidal maniac was not led in shackles, was not strapped to the table during interrogations, did not follow the order of entry and exit, and was not kept tied up in a psychiatric hospital, in solitary and under sedatives.
I understand that this is a scenario move, but it's insanely unrealistic. The room is filled with crazy maniacs in a mental hospital for criminals, for a second, and they have sharpened pencils, cues, billiard balls... what?!

But the mood of the season and the play of the main actors are expressive and addictive like a whirlpool of an icy river.
Master_Moriarty
Master_Moriarty
10 Nov 2016, 04:27 # Show original
@Ophella: Finally, someone said it!
Sikstep
Sikstep
09 Nov 2016, 16:54 # Show original
But the lawyer infuriated me...
hardvicore
hardvicore
10 Nov 2016, 03:01 # Show original
Powerful.
Wilko
Wilko
11 Nov 2016, 00:48 # Show original
Mediocre. That's how to ruin the gorgeous first and good second seasons...
Hamer2040
Hamer2040
11 Nov 2016, 06:53 # Show original
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Invodevil
Invodevil
15 Nov 2016, 00:26 # Show original
@Hamer2040: show your reinforced concrete balls,suppress the panic of suffocation, pliz
andrew_starwind
andrew_starwind
13 Nov 2016, 14:51 # Show original
It is decidedly not clear what Mr. Cubitt meant by showing us exactly such an ending.
pain334
pain334
13 Nov 2016, 16:58 # Show original
A wonderful ending! The series was filmed for a thinking viewer, he does not chew every moment. You didn't expect the phrase from Paul "I was playing amnesia, I'm all of you"? The answer was given indirectly. Just like everyone else. Who doesn't understand, read the interview, wiki, etc., but in the series all the answers are given, you just have to think.
Grenada
Grenada
PRO
13 Nov 2016, 23:56 # Show original
I have a problem with such series - the filmed ending is not pleasing, but there is no answer to the question: "Which ending would be better?"
IvanMinin
IvanMinin
18 Nov 2016, 03:09 # Show original
I didn't know that this was the last episode and I was delighted!)
And those who didn't like it, well, you're still kids.
lyoka_d
lyoka_d
PRO
18 Nov 2016, 19:01 # Show original
I'm most interested in the question, why didn't they try to pump out the Spectrum? After all, he didn't hang at all, which means that at least a couple of minutes were still enough to try to save him. Especially since he was in a mental hospital, where the staff should have at least basic first aid skills?!
tornberg
tornberg
25 Jan 2017, 19:48 # Show original
@lyoka_d: First of all, it was shown on the screen that the Floor hung just nothing, in reality it could hang as long as it wanted. Secondly, it makes sense to pump out a hanged person if he has just lost consciousness, which happens in the seconds after, in fact, hanging. Thirdly, it follows from this - by the furrow on the neck, and it is quite dark, it is noticeable that the Floor did not hang for a couple of seconds, but the bill has already gone by minutes. Which led to brain death. And you can't give first aid to a dead brain, alas.
lyoka_d
lyoka_d
PRO
14 Apr 2017, 22:42 # Show original
@tornberg: "and the bill has already gone for minutes," well, there were at least 7 of them. so, they should start resuscitation anyway. but whether it made sense is another question. And no one there even thought about it
SvetikWolf
SvetikWolf
28 Jul 2021, 10:40 # Show original
@lyoka_d: You probably didn't look carefully. The episode says that the body was found at 9.30 pm, resuscitation measures were unsuccessful. The death was recorded at 9.50 am. So they tried to pump him out for 20 minutes.
Ves
Ves
22 Nov 2016, 04:39 # Show original
The final scene is iconic!
Gillian has always been a great actress, but that bitter smile at the last minute is worthy of an Oscar!
Dolorous
Dolorous
27 Nov 2016, 19:26 # Show original
mixed feelings from the series.. everything is done amazingly, but still Paul's suicide somehow stands out from the overall picture.. I can't believe he could really do this to himself.
Vakshja
Vakshja
29 Nov 2016, 19:13 # Show original
Paul is not suicidal by nature, but he clearly saw no other way out. I liked the series, but the finale was a little frustrating. And yes, the mental hospital is unrealistically unnatural
Dolorous
Dolorous
29 Nov 2016, 22:30 # Show original
@Vakshja: Why? a mental hospital is like a mental hospital. this is not Russia) Have you seen Swedish prisons? is there a resort there at all)
Vakshja
Vakshja
30 Nov 2016, 00:21 # Show original
@Dolorous: I'm talking about how psychos freely wield pencils, billiard cues and other things))
JoSummers
JoSummers
06 Dec 2016, 19:41 # Show original
People, listen, explain, and what is this guy (Stellin's boss. Jim?) Have you started to reflect? Did he start drinking in the middle of the season, and then he burst into tears after the Spectrum attack and drove off into the sunset in a car?
andrew_starwind
andrew_starwind
16 Jan 2017, 13:28 # Show original
@JoSummers: And why not? This is a series for a thinking audience, simple plebeians do not understand the great plan.
P.S. explain it to me too, plz.
tornberg
tornberg
25 Jan 2017, 19:51 # Show original
@JoSummers: It was kind of obvious there when he said in plain text that he loved her. but it can't be with her because of her wife. and Stella always has some kind of young men, this one is up to her. That's why he's drinking.
svetaclaire
svetaclaire
07 Nov 2022, 17:32 # Show original
I think it's also because he beat her up. And that guy couldn't do anything about it. Plus I lost my job. So he howled.
Jammm
Jammm
07 Jan 01:49 #
Косяки на работе, напряжение от сложного дела, Стелла приехала и старые чувства вспыхнули. Не выдержал, начал пить. Короче, все навалилось разом. Вы представьте себя на его месте, все ждут, что ты будешь ловить маньяка, ты не справляешься настолько, что присылают проверять человека, маньяк убивает у тебя под носом.. это не какой-то складской отчет запороть. Напряжение сильное. Ну и, видимо, характером слабоват в целом.
Gastya
Gastya
11 Dec 2016, 00:03 # Show original
They only kiss at Disney, guys.
Mr_Jonas
Mr_Jonas
14 Dec 2016, 16:12 # Show original
I watched the whole series carefully, and it seems that what Paul did to himself at the end absolutely does not fit into his image and the framework of what is happening.
The ending was leaked, I think...
jostrov
jostrov
18 Dec 2016, 13:07 # Show original
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Dolorous
Dolorous
18 Dec 2016, 18:57 # Show original
why is the Pause status suddenly back?..
catus
catus
25 Jan 2017, 17:01 # Show original
I was sure that they would stir up another Hannibal, but the creators still decided to end this story. the feeling of understatement and incoherence is eerie. in general, it's like this particular episode doesn't apply to the rest of the series. it's a pity, of course, because in general it turned out to be something great
veer
veer
08 Feb 2017, 07:30 # Show original
The first season started so interestingly, in the second it was still great, there was a confrontation between Paul and Stella, and it would probably be great if Paul died at the end of season 2 and that's it. The end of the story.
Or that he would run away and switch places with Stella in season 3 with a game of cat and mouse, like who is hunting whom, tension, excitement, an unpredictable ending who will survive, whether they will catch, etc. ...
and here all season there is so much useless chatter, how boring it was, a feeling of understatement, why did they mix so many facts, they brought in the alcoholism of the boss, the throwing of the schoolgirl, they spent a lot of time with the doctor in the hospital, the nurse, well, the fact that Paul hanged himself in the end, of course, you can attract that he did it out of spite, like deceiving the system, I won't let you live, and so on, but I thought he would try to escape and for example if he didn't want to take revenge and play games with the police, then just drive away beautifully into the sunset))
oxitim
oxitim
14 Feb 2017, 02:00 # Show original
Maybe I missed it. I don't remember, did they explain to us what kind of woman Stella visited in the ward?
Jammm
Jammm
07 Jan 01:51 #
Она не навещала, просто мимо проходила, а та женщина её приняла за родственницу. Стелла подыграла из сочувствия, вот и всё. Такие детали нам показывают её не просто как холодную расчётливую начальницу, а вполне сочувствующего человека.
Сплюшка
Сплюшка
05 Mar 2017, 05:31 # Show original
She didn't visit anyone. It's just that the grandmother in the hospital made a mistake, mistook Her for some kind of relative and said: I'm glad you came. She felt sorry for her grandmother, she decided to sit with her.
Shamil_tob
Shamil_tob
19 Mar 2017, 02:23 # Show original
It's a pity that the series ended so quickly (((
squark
squark
25 Mar 2017, 19:35 # Show original
You're fucking whiners. You don't have Paul Spector on you.
yahargul
yahargul
06 Apr 2017, 04:32 # Show original
the conversation of the wounded Stella with the doctor in the hospital seemed very vital)
vk387412
vk387412
09 Apr 2017, 17:22 # Show original
My favorite character is the doctor. How charming he is. Three or four scenes, but I took it by the soul
Seraphimer
Seraphimer
19 Apr 2017, 11:34 # Show original
Paul is not Dexter or Lecter, and there was no ambiguity or justification in his crimes, we were initially shown him as a cruel, calculating murderer and sadist. But with all this, from the very beginning you feel some kind of strange sympathy for him and you root for him until the very end. When you look at how he behaves, how he talks to people, how he communicates with his daughter, then somewhere on a subconscious level you just refuse to believe that he is capable of such a thing. In general, it becomes clear why he had such an influence on people. Katie, Alvarez, the nurse, even Stella fell for his tricks in some way. So the character turned out to be very effective.


By the way, what happened to the story about Monroe, his son, the murder of a policeman, the suicide of another, the case of prostitutes? What was all this for anyway? It seems that they just took and cut out the whole storyline.

Jammm
Jammm
07 Jan 01:54 #
Как раз этот маньяк сочувствия у меня не вызвал. Буквально недавно смотрела Ганнибала и тот вызывал не симпатию, но хотя бы восхищение своей личностью - он выше всех условностей, образован, талантлив, да и психиатр хороший. Тут тоже коллега Ганнибала и вроде начитан и любит искусство.. но он жалок. Оставляет детей одних дома. К сыну ноль эмоций, любит только дочь. Убивает только успешных красивых женщин - видимо, чтобы над кем-то возвыситься и не чувствовать себя неудачником, у которого совершенно банальная средняя жизнь. Очень мерзкий персонаж.
anoshina
anoshina
03 Aug 2017, 14:31 # Show original
A super series!
ilpassetto
ilpassetto
PRO
16 Aug 2017, 00:06 # Show original
Well, such.... a mediocre series. Sometimes boring, sometimes unpleasantly slow, sometimes dynamic and quite interesting. I expected something more, something richer, clearer, both in the plot and in the relationships of the main characters. The final did not meet expectations. Either they really intended it that way, or, for some reason, they just leaked it. I definitely don't want to review all this.
Виргиния
Виргиния
04 Dec 2017, 16:08 # Show original
How much time has passed, but I still remember this series. The fact that Paul committed suicide is the real collapse of the entire investigation. He will not answer for his crimes. Stella was left with nothing. That's how I understood the idea and I don't consider it a drain.
Janeymsli
Janeymsli
07 Mar 2018, 07:09 # Show original
Tell me, please, where did Stella get that bill with the inscription "Not loving is in death" (the last scene of the series)?
Otherwise, I somehow missed this moment.
captnonsense
captnonsense
13 Apr 2018, 17:27 # Show original
@Jane_Molliz: It looks like it came from one of the letters that were lying on the floor near the door. Paul must have sent it.
PetrovAndrey
PetrovAndrey
04 May 2018, 20:14 # Show original
@Jane_Molliz: She picked up the bill at the entrance to the psychiatric hospital, where Specter threw it away.
bertruce
bertruce
23 Nov 2021, 16:13 # Show original
@PetrovAndrey: where did this note come from?
Silent_B
Silent_B
18 Jan 2022, 01:47 # Show original
The nurse gave it to him unnoticed while they went to look at his son, right before being transferred to a mental hospital.
justpathos
justpathos
PRO
03 Mar 2019, 13:01 # Show original
I really love Dornan in this series. He plays incomparably!
The series was shot well, with high quality. The cast is good! The plot is addictive!
kiprian_zhurov
kiprian_zhurov
PRO
27 May 2019, 07:54 # Show original
The season is superfluous and there is too much water in it
Three episodes would have been more than enough to put an end to it
yuko_san
yuko_san
05 Jul 2019, 16:38 # Show original
Obviously.
Arvveyn
Arvveyn
PRO
29 Nov 2019, 22:23 # Show original
For me, the series has been stable for all three seasons. Perhaps because it was viewed after the release and in a short time, seasonally per day, so I didn't feel any sagging, and the feeling that Spector was about to turn around and get away with everything did not leave until the very end.
When it became clear what he was going to do, there was only one thought in his head: "brute, what are you doing, how much donor blood has been poured into you!"
In general, the series can be called "The Man who fucked up everything." Victims of crimes, of course, the immediate environment, family and children in particular, a group of investigators left without a final point in the form of a court. Even the employees of the special hospital, who are waiting for a serious trial.
Everything that Paul Spector's bloody hands could reach was corroded and destroyed by the force of his boundless malice.
itsdashabitch
itsdashabitch
07 Feb 2020, 13:23 # Show original
Mr. Grey went overboard with BDSM... and he played into the box.
собачий_кайф
собачий_кайф
PRO
22 Feb 2020, 01:05 # Show original
Those who write that the ending is stupid, etc. They didn't understand the obvious.... The key moment of his suicidal thoughts was during the last interrogation. When he "remembered" that Stella was shouting "we're losing him." She told him that she did not want him to die because he had to answer for all his deeds. Their confrontation and how Paul wants to shit on her is obvious throughout the time. This became his meaning. And he didn't show weakness by his suicide. He defeated Stella. Let it be by such a radical method, but this was his victory, which he so desired...
karybergen
karybergen
14 Apr 2020, 04:55 # Show original
Katie and Stella's conversation, in my opinion, was very necessary, a lot was revealed from Stella's past, and Katie sobered up a little by cutting her whole arm and realized that if she went the other way, she could become a normal person and maybe even a strong woman, because she saw a kindred spirit in Stella
big_aspid
big_aspid
30 Apr 2020, 10:29 # Show original
@Filadora: he was knocking
id9358970
id9358970
03 May 2020, 23:58 # Show original
Thanks a lot to Myshows for recommending this series!Bombastic!
annakozhevnikova
annakozhevnikova
PRO
08 Jul 2020, 18:17 # Show original
Great ending! It was not in vain that I made an effort and watched the tedious third season in places 😤
triplesomething
triplesomething
11 Sep 2020, 15:25 # Show original
An amazing finale!) And I think the ending is very logical, he and Stella talked about control, about power and strength. Paul was losing control of the situation, he couldn't get away from the murder in 2002, which means that Stella would have won.
Again, as Paul himself said, he likes it when others suffer., physically and mentally. He could only inflict moral suffering on Stella in this way, she herself voiced it during the interrogation.

Even when he was shot, he was lying and smiling, because he was sure that he would die and everything would not turn out the way Stella wanted.

It turned out the way he wanted it to.
LiamColfer_4
LiamColfer_4
PRO
22 Oct 2020, 04:16 # Show original
the feeling of the finale is twofold.
it seems to be both dynamic and unexpected, but somehow it all doesn't fit together.

Katie abruptly became too submissive, although in the last episode she was angry and hated the whole world, except for Paul. and did she really have enough of a short conversation with Stella to calm down? somehow, her anger was quickly suppressed.

now at least it is clear why Anderson's injury was moved from the shoulder closer to the elbow. so that the damage would not be so superficial and the injury would become more serious, which later played into Spector's hands when he attacked Stella. although I still had hope that he would be able to defeat Paul.

it is unclear why Anderson was prescribed all these mysterious views. I already thought that he was a dark horse and in the end his true identity would be revealed to us. I even had the idea that he could have been raised in the same orphanage and subjected to violence. xs, why. perhaps because he was somehow abruptly introduced into the series, brought to the fore, and then they tried to quietly drain him, citing an injury. and they threw another one under the finale. character development? No, why.

The third season is quite tedious and not as exciting as the first two. something was always missing. and in the first episode, too much time was devoted to the operation. You probably forgot that this is not a medical series.

The season finale is dynamic in itself, but also controversial. I assumed that Paul had started this mess in a mental hospital in order to get out and hide somewhere. and then this stupid suicide. and yes, it can be assumed that in this way he wanted to show Stella that victory was his, but Paul also liked to mock his victims. it would be much more logical if he ran away and occasionally called/sent Stella postcards or something else. and so, it turned out to be strange and a little improbable.

and there were storylines that were thrown in, and then did not give development. and why was all this, one wonders.

Overall, the series is good, 8 out of 10. but season 3 could have been more interesting to do. with such a cast.
Пилoт
Пилoт
28 Oct 2020, 12:40 # Show original
A wonderful atmospheric detective series, stylistically very reminiscent of the famous "Murder" (USA). There is no excessive bruising, endless shootouts and chases of "tough cops" after "bad guys" in the series. However, all the charm of a psychological thriller is provided for you: there is such a chill and horror from the screen that there is an effect of full presence.
The series may not appeal to those who expected a detective story, and this is a psychological thriller. I would even say a psychiatric thriller.
Sabi-Vasabi
Sabi-Vasabi
PRO
18 Jan 2021, 06:28 # Show original
Although the plot is banal (a smart maniac against a smart investigator), it is fascinating and, oddly enough, it sounds pleasant to watch for such a topic as murder. In my opinion, there are two reasons: the sophistication and beauty of the main characters (the murderer and his pursuer) and the minimization of scenes of violence and sex, I would even say their delicacy. It is only in the last episode that the cruelty is no longer covered by anything.

The first two seasons are devoted to the commission of crimes and the search for the killer. The third is the reasons for the origin of evil in a person: Everything comes from childhood and adults are to blame for everything.
xenia_matveeva
xenia_matveeva
19 Mar 2021, 07:54 # Show original
I watched the series in 2021 and it's a pity that I didn't pay attention to it earlier.
The oppressive atmosphere throughout the series, it does not let go even after the end of the viewing. A big plus is the lack of romanticization of the criminal.

I am a proponent of when there is room for reflection and speculation after watching.
Great game of the main characters!
Tammy
Tammy
09 Jul 2021, 04:10 # Show original
I was afraid that this season, after Paul's capture, it would be quite a drag, but everything turned out to be quite good. That is, yes, it was possible to fit, probably, four episodes, but nevertheless.

The interrogations (of both Alvarez and Paul himself) and Stella's conversations with Tom are coolly written/Jim/Katie and many other characters. Anderson matches the name of his heroine ("Star"), and Dornan is very cool. Spector still managed to pull it off in his own way, even though he was already, in fact, cornered; but now he will not rot in prison for all the hell that he has done, unfortunately. Well, in a sense, the circle has closed: it all started with his mother's suicide in the same way and ended with the same suicide for him. It's good that they told us more about Paul's past (scary as it is, without ever whitewashing the killer himself) and Stella (albeit to a lesser extent).

Of the minor characters, Paul's family had good lines (except they didn't tell us anything about Sally-Ann, it seems: did they put her in jail as a result for attempted murder? Or were they deprived of custody of the children and sent to a psychiatric clinic? Or what?), Rose, Katie, and Jim. Dani is also very good in the background. Stella's pre-final dialogue with Katie clarified a lot, especially about which people you need to reach out to: those who will understand your pain, and not revel in it; it would seem to be a simple truth, but it can be very difficult to comprehend it and bring it to life, so it is important that an adult with authority does it for you He spoke. I want to believe that Katie will now improve her life, as much as possible with a criminal record, of course.

Another plus is the excellent gloomy soundtrack (this ringing melody is now stuck in my head), Belfast as a very specific location, and the atmosphere as a whole: cold and viscous. Cool, in general.
sarra99
sarra99
22 Jul 2021, 21:31 # Show original
There was a twofold feeling from the ending, it seemed to be hopelessness, and Stella wiped her nose, but it seemed like she wanted something else, although it was probably the most logical outcome, the excuse would be ridiculous, putting him in jail would be the usual solution, it's a pity that the topic with his wife and children was somehow merged, Benedetta I assume conversations I had to talk some sense into Stella, somehow empty of the finale, as if there were still not enough episodes, the puzzle did not come together..but the series kept all 3 seasons in suspense and disgust, it was interesting to watch, in general, I was more satisfied with watching🙌🏻
markopolo7
markopolo7
21 Aug 2021, 23:22 # Show original
It was unexpected when Paul attacked Stella.. as he was cruel, he remained so, no amount of amnesia hid his anger and hatred of women
MissProstration
MissProstration
04 Sep 2021, 18:59 # Show original
I didn't really like the ending, but even it was in Paul's style. He was clearly influenced by Stella's words in the conference room, after which he beat her up - and the most important thought was that she needed him, she wanted him to receive punishment, death-it would be too easy. Many people suffered from him, he nurtured evil in them, left a deep mark. I think that his suicide was conceived by him for only one purpose - so that Stella's case would not be completed. He's so cold-blooded
FairyDream
FairyDream
28 Sep 2021, 18:14 # Show original
A very disappointing third season and the ending in general.
Perhaps the creators wanted to throw riddles: amnesia or not, bipolar or not, etc... But I don't even want to think about it. The impression of the first two seasons is very spoiled.
Eliz1611
Eliz1611
17 Aug 2023, 02:37 # Show original
@FairyDream: everything becomes pretty obvious if you look closely at the little things and listen carefully to the dialogues.
fedosha_
fedosha_
18 Feb 2022, 20:36 # Show original
I regret that I did not discover this series earlier. I watched it for 5 days.
I am delighted with the dialogues, the cast and the plot.
But I've been waiting for suicide since season 1, since Paul talked to Katie in a cafe, where he directly explained to her how maniacs end up. It was said in plain text that its ending was suicide. Therefore, I have been waiting for this moment for season 2 and 3 and it did not disappoint.
Well, it's a very tasty series, in the sense that after every dialogue and scene there is something to think about.
And Dornan's filmography is generally funny: in 50 shades, this is the lite version of Spector in the Crash, and in the Tourist, this is Spector after the accident, an alternative reality 😂
And of course Gillian Anderson is beautiful - I would not refuse a series with the same character investigating the next murders.
AnastasiaRokudo
AnastasiaRokudo
26 Feb 2022, 17:03 # Show original
The series is a terrible burden, I watched all three seasons at 2x speed and I do not regret it. They would have cut half and it would have turned out to be an excellent +-8 episode mini-series. Well, it was worth watching just for the sake of Anderson, she pulled the whole series on herself
atsvetochek
atsvetochek
02 May 2022, 16:07 # Show original
Jamie❤ ❤ ️❤ ️ ❤️
Antis_Sekyt
Antis_Sekyt
16 Aug 2022, 21:45 # Show original
The music in the series is gorgeous. Does anyone know where to download it? Was it officially published? Thank you in advance)
Antis_Sekyt
Antis_Sekyt
16 Aug 2022, 23:18 # Show original
Well, as a result: I personally will not call it boring, I like the atmosphere and the pace. The music is gorgeous, really sneaks in and sets up the stage. The actors are great. The camerawork is a workshop. It is pleasant to watch, interesting, addictive.
But there are questions for the screenwriters and producers. I don't think the series required 3 seasons and so many episodes. Having removed all the lines that did not play any role at all (I will not bore you with enumerations), and a number of scenes that were clearly intended to fill in the timekeeping, it was possible to get a strong drama in every sense for 8-10 episodes from this material. As a spectator, I did not see the point in this stretching. Why the creators need this is another question that does not concern me. If you pour a lot of water into a fine wine, it, alas, will lose the charm of its taste.
The ending did not upset or please. How would she fit the series. It's not very good for me, but I'm not an indicator either. I didn't like the maniac of the series for the lack of integrity. He's like everything and a little bit, but in general a very ordinary character. The actor did well, the character did not.
The result: the atmosphere, the picture, the music, the cast are conducive to watching and having fun. But as a thriller and drama, "Crash" is a strong average guy, no more.
AnnaAV
AnnaAV
PRO
16 Sep 2022, 22:23 # Show original
This season, I was pleased with Stella, probably because she became more human, or something. And I'm very sorry for Paul's wife.. brought it is called. I expected a different ending, to be honest.
anderhimmel
anderhimmel
24 Nov 2022, 02:53 # Show original
An amazing series. My favorite season. It all came together. Every phrase in the last episode led to this. She burst into tears at the end.
Yulmarie
Yulmarie
21 Jan 2023, 22:16 # Show original
Stella gave him the idea during the interrogation. He beat them like that.
_October_
_October_
31 Jan 2023, 03:27 # Show original
I knew Spector would hit her, it was expected. They have such a powerful confrontation.
golubatsby
golubatsby
13 Feb 2023, 00:15 # Show original
And the whole series reminded me of the idea of the anime Death Note: the same tension from how the killer is being searched for, how Paul hides, confuses the tracks, and even amnesia, if it was real, correlates with Light's memory loss after abandoning the Notebook! In general, fire, not the series, although I put on 4 because of the periodically prolonged scenes. As we wrote above, it is a pity that I did not discover this series earlier, but I am glad that it is over.
Majnun
Majnun
13 Feb 2023, 19:26 # Show original
@golubatsby: I agree! It also seemed to me that there was a clean vehicle following, the same tension! The floor is generally beautifully played out, constantly fluctuating from admiration to contempt. In short, a great series!
merysamer
merysamer
25 May 2023, 15:51 # Show original
And who did kill the policeman???
With whom Stella slept?
Irson
Irson
26 May 2023, 09:28 # Show original
I still didn't believe in his amnesia. A tough series, so many attacks and such a creepy scene of strangling a psycho that I just rewound, brrr.
I agree with the comments above, it is unlikely that someone like Paul would commit suicide, he loved himself too much and loved his daughter, I think that for her sake he would have stayed.
But in general, I liked the film, I don't regret the time spent watching it.
id498700854
id498700854
04 Nov 2023, 16:08 # Show original
@Irson: some real maniacs committed suicide in prison, their psychopathy does not allow them to be imprisoned, death is better
ramzy
ramzy
06 Nov 2023, 13:12 # Show original
@id498700854: Give examples.
id498700854
id498700854
06 Nov 2023, 13:32 # Show original
@ramzy: Nikita Litkin, Maury Travis, Richard Chase
Freyja89
Freyja89
PRO
28 May 2023, 15:56 # Show original
It seems Stella wanted Paul to live, not just to put him away, but also to close his own gestalt 🤷🏻♀️ kill himself the same way he killed his victims ... well, this is at least some kind of justice 🤦🏻♀️
id498700854
id498700854
04 Nov 2023, 16:09 # Show original
All the actors played brilliantly, bravo. But it 's not clear - what's the end for Sally? Prison or mental hospital?
Bo17
Bo17
25 Nov 2023, 07:36 # Show original
God, forgive me, connoisseurs of this series, but most of it was terribly burdensome for me. I searched through the force ... 😞
Antis_Sekyt
Antis_Sekyt
26 Nov 2023, 17:32 # Show original
@Bo17: I can't say that it was very bad, but I wouldn't reconsider. In particular, because of such a long narrative
Jammm
Jammm
07 Jan 01:40 #
Странный осадочек остался после последней серии. Очень медленный сезон. Очень много ненужных деталей - медицинские подробности, все такое. Линия из первого сезона про Монро вообще незачем была. Девушка с умершим ребёнком на работе у Салли, гопники эти… с одной стороны сериал очень понравился - много глубоких разговоров, красивые съемки, роскошная Джиллиан. С другой будто не дотянули где-то по сценарию. Почему Пол повесился? Не очень похож на суицидника. С его изобретательностью мог бы и сбежать даже. Ощущение, что это был экспромт, попросил навести шороху, как будто уже собрался сбежать (зачем шкафчик директора открыл? Что там искал?) и вдруг передумал. Тема амнезии так до конца и не прояснена, придерживаюсь идеи, что не было её, чистое притворство. Ну и что за гранью моего понимания, как маньяка, пусть и с предполагаемой амнезией отправляют в санаторий. Послушала расписание и сама бы так пожила недельку. Почему после нападения на Стеллу его не поместили в корпус более строгого режима, в одиночку? Просто привезли и сняли наручники.. в общем, третий сезон не очень понравился, но общие впечатления о сериале хорошие, не похож на другие.
g1237081
g1237081
27 Jan 17:48 #
Классный сериал, одна из лучших работ Джейми, я до последнего ждала что он инсценирует свою смерть и уедет ..но авторы не додумались к сожалению) соглашусь с верхними комментами, интересна судьба его супруги и сына
id41434181
id41434181
17 Mar 20:31 # Show original
The series left a lasting impression. Great acting.
Alex-219
Alex-219
26 Apr 05:17 # Show original
In the comments, I did not see a look at the fact that it could be that Stella led him to thoughts of suicide and his method. Hence the final scene. Imho, then the question of who outplayed whom remains more open...
Эпизоды
Эпизоды
PRO
24 Jun 22:48 # Show original
Billiards in a mental hospital for murderers? Billiards??? And why not a shooting gallery right away? 🤣🤣🤣
Semolina porridge and not the season, as a result, a lot remained unanswered, stretching back from the first season. I'm glad that the killer killed himself, even if he did it just to spite Stella. I'm glad that I've chartered the doctor's face, maybe he'll figure out that psycho killers should be controlled more seriously.
And I repeat - it was worth making a minic for 10 episodes, the third season is not at the box office at all, the second one is lame.
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