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The Blacklist: Redemption — s01e03 — Independence, U.S.A.

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Duration: 43 min.
Released: 09.03.201710.03.2017 06:00
Watched by: 2 70167.01%
1 season
s01e03
s01e01 - Leland Bray
s01e02 - Kevin Jensen
s01e03 - Independence, U.S.A.
s01e04 - Operation Davenport
s01e05 - Borealis 301
s01e06 - Hostages
s01e07 - Whitehall
s01e08 - Whitehall: Conclusion

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Tuliackbaev
Tuliackbaev
10 Mar 2017, 22:28 # Show original
Well, at least they bothered to take Russian-speaking actors, it's a little thing, but it's nice.
vk322160
vk322160
11 Mar 2017, 00:52 # Show original
Well, who knows, maybe Redington knows something about the substitution and thus tried to warn Tom?
smetana_sg
smetana_sg
14 Mar 2017, 04:17 # Show original
@vk322160: I wonder if Tom will ask Red or not :)
GreenHouse
GreenHouse
PRO
11 Mar 2017, 05:39 # Show original
It's just the most fucking crazy.
hlvn
hlvn
12 Mar 2017, 04:43 # Show original
@GreenHouse: And then Locke will take Tom to the island)))))
Humgat
Humgat
11 Mar 2017, 18:12 # Show original
Ural Wayward Pines, Russian African Americans ready to die for their homeland, you don't have to do anything, paranoia is the best engine of progress...
h8r
h8r
12 Mar 2017, 05:26 # Show original
It seems that an almost similar plot with a fake American town for rashen spays was already a hundred years ago in one of the Alias series.
Well, if Howard thinks that his wife was replaced after his son disappeared, then instead of all this fuss, why doesn't he just do a DNA test for himself, Scotty and Tom to confirm the relationship (or in the universe of the series, such a test will only show that they are all 50% bananas?)
myanochka
myanochka
12 Mar 2017, 15:33 # Show original
@h8r: This thought doesn't leave me either. But how will they do the test so that Scotty doesn't understand? She's a smart woman, she'll suspect that something is wrong
Angel-Phoebs
Angel-Phoebs
12 Mar 2017, 18:26 # Show original
@h8r: "It seems that there was almost a similar plot with a fake American town for rashen spai a hundred years ago in one of the Alias series." Well, one of the authors of the idea of "Redemption", John Eisendrath, was one of the writers and producers of "Spy", at one time. "Spy" ended 10 years ago. Perhaps Eisendrath thinks that the audience has long forgotten about her. Moreover, about the details of the plot of individual episodes. So I started plagiarizing my own stories, on the sly.
"why doesn't he just do a DNA test?" One of the main questions I've been asking myself for the fourth year of watching the original emergency is "Why didn't the FBI do a DNA analysis of Liz and Red, back in the second episode of the first season, when they found out if the new girl agent was connected to a world-class criminal?" It seems that the problem with DNA tests has moved from the original to the spin-off.
"in the universe of the series, will such a test only show that they are all 50% bananas?" A great option. I would explain a lot.))
Tuliackbaev
Tuliackbaev
12 Mar 2017, 22:45 # Show original
@Angel-Phoebs: Sorry, but the test was done in the usual List and it showed that they are not related in any way. I understood that he treats her this way because her mother loved her very much, and he dragged her into all this because he knew that one of his enemies would sooner or later come out to blackmail her, so he decided to keep her closer.
Dolorous
Dolorous
13 Mar 2017, 14:56 # Show original
@Angel-Phoebs: Well, it's not that simple about the DNA test. he began to suspect that his wife had been "replaced" only after some time after her personality changes, that is, to compare DNA with something - there might no longer be any things left from the "old" Scotty or something from which DNA can be removed. theoretically, this can be done now that Tom \ Christopher has been found, and this even assuming that he is really their son, what else is the question really.. and it will be difficult to do it in a completely quiet way, Scotia has eyes and ears everywhere, and tests are easily falsified.)
Angel-Phoebs
Angel-Phoebs
18 Mar 2017, 02:57 # Show original
@Tuliackbaev: There was no DNA test between Red and Liz in the emergency. Otherwise, the fan disputes that tired me personally, father or not father, would have subsided long ago. The test was done between Liz and Alexander Kirk (Konstantin Rostov). And that test, double-checked, showed that Liz and Kirk are not related. I understand Liz's mother, Katerina Rostova, faked the very first test that Tom blackmailed from a Russian diplomat. She faked it so that Kirk would consider Liz (Masha) his daughter. And the alleged enemies of Katerina and/or Masha's real father, too.
It is still unknown who Liz's real father is. Red told Kirk at 4.08 that Elizabeth was his daughter. But at that moment, Red was being tortured with the help of medical drugs. Kirk was going to inject him with something that would kill him. Red, before the "confession," asked what Kirk wanted him to say. Does he want to hear that Elizabeth is his daughter? And he said it. So I don't believe those words of Red's. I believe his answer to Liz's direct question, back in the first season. She asked if he was her father. He replied: No. And he said several times that he had never lied to her and was not lying. This was also confirmed by the creators of the series behind the scenes.
And nothing is known for sure about Liz's mother's affair with Red. Liz thought of this while reading Katerina's diary, but Red did not confirm it. In episode 3.19, when Red was bugged by Katerina's ghost, there was no hint of their romantic relationship or at least sexual attraction between them, IMHO. And the entries in Katerina's diary, found in the house of Konstantin Rostov, where Red is mentioned, could be fake just like the Soviet one (?) A DNA test confirming Kirk's paternity to Liz. Katerina wrote in her diary about Kirk as Liz's father. This is a proven lie. The rest of the records may be the same lie. The fact is, we don't know anything for sure about Liz's real father, except that he was. But the fourth season of the main series is already underway. No answers. I think that's partly why the emergency ratings are falling lower and lower.((
Tuliackbaev
Tuliackbaev
22 Mar 2017, 06:02 # Show original
@Angel-Phoebs: It was impossible to read your entire post, but the test was done back in the first season in the first episodes.
Angel-Phoebs
Angel-Phoebs
25 Mar 2017, 03:02 # Show original
@Tuliackbaev: and the episode number in which the DNA test was done between Red and Liz, can I clarify? Maybe I suddenly forgot something. Or is it also a hollow?
Tuliackbaev
Tuliackbaev
31 Mar 2017, 13:47 # Show original
@Angel-Phoebs: I don't remember anymore, in the first episodes her boss told her that they checked why Red chose her and that they were not related by dna.
Сплюшка
Сплюшка
08 Feb 2021, 07:48 # Show original
It's strange to comment on 2017 posts, and I don't want to give spoilers. But all these DNA tests are not as simple as you write
woody-alex
woody-alex
27 Apr 2017, 03:29 # Show original
@h8r: There is such a comedy "The Experts" (The Experts, 1989), where the hero of John Travolta (with a friend) is brought to such a fake American town so that he brings it in line with reality.-)
Dolorous
Dolorous
12 Mar 2017, 22:42 # Show original
I think it's a great series, and the twist at the end is very steep)
alavitka
alavitka
13 Mar 2017, 21:49 # Show original
This is the most moronic nonsense about Russians that I have ever seen. So much money and secrecy to replace the Pindos and only to blow up the supreme court, just so that no one knows that they are Russians? NAKUYA??? that is, what is the BENEFIT for Russia in this?

Muslim terrorists bomb openly and simply in revenge for what is happening on their land - from impotent hatred (and hatred only happens from the powerlessness of the victim). So, the one who writes such stories just swallowed the enchantingly stupid explanation to the people by the government of the twin towers, "They hate us. because we are a free country," which you can't pull on the brain at all if there is at least one gyrus there. And then, apparently, the score went down, because he also equated Russia as a state with crazy Arab radicals.

And what is this new wave of the Cold War in all the series? That's for sure, you don't need to do anything, let them scare themselves, shit themselves and give up =))
Мася
Мася
16 Mar 2017, 08:55 # Show original
I understand everything, but why train to live in a city that looks like an American, if in fact in the future these same spies will change only the location and nothing more. Fierceness of course. For Motherload
Humgat
Humgat
16 Mar 2017, 16:16 # Show original
@Masya: integration, immersion, long-term development of the script and the legend, that's it..
Мася
Мася
16 Mar 2017, 19:32 # Show original
@Humgat: Maximum deep immersion in the legend.
kaktuh
kaktuh
21 Mar 2017, 03:24 #
то самое чувство, когда ты из Екатеринбурга...
cabaret_boy
cabaret_boy
05 Apr 2017, 21:18 #
Сцена с псевдо женой улыбнула: за родину - (визг тормозов) - ты едешь?
oliverwilde
oliverwilde
16 Apr 2017, 05:51 #
ох, как же хочется, чтобы хоть один раз сюжет пошел не предсказуемо и его отец реально оказался параноиком, втянувшим мужика в свою безумную фантазию.. а не вот эта вся банальщина, которую он "раскрывает" о вселенском заговоре Скотти.
Вообще смотрю этот бред только из-за Янсен и уже сомневаюсь, что на долго хватит)))
oliverwilde
oliverwilde
30 Oct 2017, 04:17 #
и теперь я здесь после просмотра 4 сезонов Черного Списка.. и я здесь, чтобы негодовать)) ЧТО?? Этому утырку дали отдельный сирик? Серьезно? да все мечтали, чтобы их с Лизи слили из Списка, а теперь вот ..вот! к слову, в прошлый раз меня не хватило дальше 3х-4х серий, теперь удалю хоть из своего списка)))
porco
porco
23 Jul 2020, 02:23 #
Интересно, кому эту серию смешнее смотреть - американцам, глядя, как "русские изображают американцев", или русским, глядя, как американцы изображают русских.

PS Девушка с простым русским именем Ивана Попова этот пять.

PPS А, то есть тупые КГБшники не понимают, что мулатка и негр не так чтобы совсем-совсем русские?

PPPS Мммм, ну и конечно все штатовские фрики и городские сумасшедшие с бомбами - КОВАРНЫЙ РУССКИЙ ПЛАН. Mediocre!
Roxy_Bluff
Roxy_Bluff
04 Aug 2020, 01:22 #
почему-то после просмотра в голове крутилась песня из Евротура "Scotty doesn't know! Don't tell Scotty!"
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