Oh, Bali bay)) That's who I'm always happy for) Hatice doesn't even live in a palace, doesn't run a harem, why should anyone ask her?? Not only does she go there as if to her home, and constantly tries to restore her own order, she also came specially so that she would not be offended by the fun! As I understand it, in his youth, Shah and Ibrahim had a love story, because of which the Shah does not like Hatice so much and treats Ibrahim so difficult) But I don't exactly understand Nigar. Now she wants to take revenge on Hatija, then she wants to take revenge on Hurrem, then she only wants to live in peace with her daughter...You don't know what you want, woman. Mehmed is not as pleasant and well-formed as Mustafa. There are no merits yet, and ambition and arrogance are already more than enough, an unkind sign. The upbringing of Hurrem makes itself felt. Merjan-aha, of course, there is nowhere more colorful, but when he quietly sneaks up on you from behind, you can also give birth!)))
@nens8_8y: Merjan-aha is right my favorite! :) Handsome:))) Mehmed is envious, Mihrimah is some kind of riotous.. then he loves one, then another, he flirts with all the men in turn.
@Sehnsucht: well, damn, she's a young girl, everyone around her in the harem only dreams of love, they suffer from love, they make love, she also wants to) I understand this, but her arrogance and meanness right from childhood, there is no way to explain it.
@Sehnsucht: oh, I thought there was one. Definitely, I just can't let go of the idea that he's not a eunuch at all. s: And the fact that he is wandering around the harem is not an argument, everything is like at home there. In general, if they cooked up a couple of them with the Shah, I would not be surprised for the first time, but only happy. In the end, what is she worse than Mihrimah, who fell in love with anyone at first sight.)
The problem with the women of this series is that they blame Hurrem for everything. Yes, she is not a sheep and not an angel, she pushes and tempts to meanness. But Nigar and Hatice hate her, although, in fact, it was Ibrahim who ruined both their lives. And Ibrahim pushed himself to death by his actions. The face of the Shah-sultan begins to strain, her appearance is very peculiar hd Due to the fact that the actors from series to series are the same, and they are not even aged in any way, except with beards (in the case of Sultan and Ibrahim, for example), you are very confused in the timeline. It seems that many years have already passed, Mihrimah has grown up, and Bali Bay is still the same. According to the plot, it seems that the years are flying, according to the appearance - as if they are stuck in one place.
@Шоич: да, с таймлайнами просто путаница, я не сильна в истории, и сложно отслеживать эти резкие изменения) Особенно когда Мустафа уехал с Махидевран подростком, а вернулся полноценным взрослым мужчиной :D Не заметила сколько лет прошло, но по ощущениям все 5-7 лет, хотя по сюжету там совсем какой-то короткий срок прошел... С Михримах тоже большой скачок, вроде вот была маленькая девочка 7-летка, а тут бац, и резко ей лет 15-17 уже)
Ещё к вашему комментарию. По внешности и возрасту, например, когда Хюррем попала в гарем, ей было около 15-18 лет, если мне не изменяет память. Сейчас ей по сюжету, вероятно, немного больше 30 лет, до 40 точно. Вполне выглядит на свою внешность) Я бы не сказала, что какой-то диссонанс. Махидевран примерно одного возраста с Хюррем. Хатидже немногим старше их, может быть лет на 3-5. Я бы не сказала, что они слишком молодые для своих ролей) насколько я знаю спойлеры, дальше актрису, играющую Хюррем, заменят (про других не в курсе), и она будет старше - это уже Хюррем в свои "старые" годы. Вполне всё соответствует, а вот дети - просто на дрожжах как будто растут XD
Hatice is interesting... Like she's in mourning and everyone should grieve with her. Well, you don't like that they are having fun, so sit in your castle and cry into your pillow. How his eyes will bulge... Was it necessary for the whole of Istanbul to go in mourning, or what? Of course, Hurrem is also wrong that she arranged all this. But everyone should already get used to her provocations.
Mihrimah is a clever girl❤ ️ I like so much how she stands up for her mother, for honor and pride 🔥 🔥 🔥
I can't say the same about Mehmed yet. Honestly, I like him less than Mustafa, it's just that Mustafa has already managed to show us his actions, deeds and inner kindness many times, and Mehmed has not done anything worthwhile yet. I hope he will correct this omission, and will not be the eternal "shadow" number 2 of his brother
Bali Bay is back... It's very strange that his line with Aibige broke off, like there was such a strong love, and then it surfaced somewhere🥴 🤷 ♀ ️ it's annoying
Is Nigar serving Hatija again? This woman, apparently, has no mind left at all, like this troika of rats "Everything is against Hurrem, she is to blame for all the sins in the world." Really, you will not understand who she serves, then she wants to take revenge on Hatija, then Hurrem, then live quietly with her daughter 🤦 ♀ ️ she has deteriorated as a character, unfortunately
Damn, but I'm very sorry for Rustem. He was such a devoted Hurrem, and not only had enough influence on Ibrahim's death, but also saved her from "shame and death" many times. At the moment, only Ayaz Pasha and Syumbul agha remain among the devoted personalities of Hurrem, well, it's very sad because of Rustem 🥺 😭
The shah is really a worthy opponent for Hurrem, I think she will not let her kill her now, that's why she sent her Merjan aga, because it will be too pale. In general, she is well done, unlike that offended troika, she has brains, and this pleases me ( ❤ ❤ ❤ )))
P.S.: why does the appearance and behavior of Rustem aga remind me so much of some Russian bandit from the district?🤣 Someone has already written about this in the comments in the past series))
@id184689521: скорее всего парик, так как это не менее 3-5 лет нужно, чтобы настолько отрасли волосы... там вроде не было ещё скачка времени, может быть только месяц прошел после смерти Ибрагима. Но я не знаю, были ли уже в то время парики) хотя скорее всего были. В каких-то сериях раньше показывали, что у стражников в красном были накладные черные волосы. Так что, думаю, вполне реально, чтобы это был парик
Как же я кринжую от того, что Ибрагим сам себя до такой ситуации довёл, но все вокруг винят Хюррем, не зная правды. Да, может где-то она подтолкнула Ибрагима к краю, НО слова которые он изрыгал из себя это только его "заслуга", а не Хюррем. Они все злятся на Хюррем только потому что они бумерствуют и не хотят сдвигать многолетние порядки с места. Если бы изначально они подружились с Хюррем, то всё было бы нормально. Даже Махидевран уже не о любви к Сулейману думает, а просто о том, как бы Хюррем не досталось больше власти.
@extraterrestrial: при этом, кстати, сама Махидевран глупая как пробка. Когда ей досталась власть в гареме, вместо того, чтобы показать себя хорошей правительницей, она просто начала всех задаривать и тратить деньги, которых у неё нет. С Хюррем в гареме таких проблем, вроде, не наблюдалось.
Может, я что-то проморгала, но куда делась великая любовь Бали-бея к Айбиге? Он же специально уехал, чтобы иметь возможность быть с ней вместе. А тут опять по борделям ходит как ни в чём не бывало. Но я всё равно безумно рада его видеть <З
Hatice doesn't even live in a palace, doesn't run a harem, why should anyone ask her?? Not only does she go there as if to her home, and constantly tries to restore her own order, she also came specially so that she would not be offended by the fun!
As I understand it, in his youth, Shah and Ibrahim had a love story, because of which the Shah does not like Hatice so much and treats Ibrahim so difficult)
But I don't exactly understand Nigar. Now she wants to take revenge on Hatija, then she wants to take revenge on Hurrem, then she only wants to live in peace with her daughter...You don't know what you want, woman.
Mehmed is not as pleasant and well-formed as Mustafa. There are no merits yet, and ambition and arrogance are already more than enough, an unkind sign. The upbringing of Hurrem makes itself felt.
Merjan-aha, of course, there is nowhere more colorful, but when he quietly sneaks up on you from behind, you can also give birth!)))
Mehmed is envious, Mihrimah is some kind of riotous.. then he loves one, then another, he flirts with all the men in turn.
And the fact that he is wandering around the harem is not an argument, everything is like at home there.
In general, if they cooked up a couple of them with the Shah, I would not be surprised for the first time, but only happy. In the end, what is she worse than Mihrimah, who fell in love with anyone at first sight.)
The face of the Shah-sultan begins to strain, her appearance is very peculiar hd
Due to the fact that the actors from series to series are the same, and they are not even aged in any way, except with beards (in the case of Sultan and Ibrahim, for example), you are very confused in the timeline. It seems that many years have already passed, Mihrimah has grown up, and Bali Bay is still the same. According to the plot, it seems that the years are flying, according to the appearance - as if they are stuck in one place.
Ещё к вашему комментарию. По внешности и возрасту, например, когда Хюррем попала в гарем, ей было около 15-18 лет, если мне не изменяет память. Сейчас ей по сюжету, вероятно, немного больше 30 лет, до 40 точно. Вполне выглядит на свою внешность) Я бы не сказала, что какой-то диссонанс. Махидевран примерно одного возраста с Хюррем. Хатидже немногим старше их, может быть лет на 3-5. Я бы не сказала, что они слишком молодые для своих ролей) насколько я знаю спойлеры, дальше актрису, играющую Хюррем, заменят (про других не в курсе), и она будет старше - это уже Хюррем в свои "старые" годы. Вполне всё соответствует, а вот дети - просто на дрожжах как будто растут XD
I like Shah Sultan very much, he is a worthy rival of Hurrem 😍
I can't say the same about Mehmed yet. Honestly, I like him less than Mustafa, it's just that Mustafa has already managed to show us his actions, deeds and inner kindness many times, and Mehmed has not done anything worthwhile yet. I hope he will correct this omission, and will not be the eternal "shadow" number 2 of his brother
Bali Bay is back... It's very strange that his line with Aibige broke off, like there was such a strong love, and then it surfaced somewhere🥴 🤷 ♀ ️ it's annoying
Is Nigar serving Hatija again? This woman, apparently, has no mind left at all, like this troika of rats "Everything is against Hurrem, she is to blame for all the sins in the world." Really, you will not understand who she serves, then she wants to take revenge on Hatija, then Hurrem, then live quietly with her daughter 🤦 ♀ ️ she has deteriorated as a character, unfortunately
Damn, but I'm very sorry for Rustem. He was such a devoted Hurrem, and not only had enough influence on Ibrahim's death, but also saved her from "shame and death" many times. At the moment, only Ayaz Pasha and Syumbul agha remain among the devoted personalities of Hurrem, well, it's very sad because of Rustem 🥺 😭
The shah is really a worthy opponent for Hurrem, I think she will not let her kill her now, that's why she sent her Merjan aga, because it will be too pale. In general, she is well done, unlike that offended troika, she has brains, and this pleases me ( ❤ ❤ ❤ )))
P.S.: why does the appearance and behavior of Rustem aga remind me so much of some Russian bandit from the district?🤣 Someone has already written about this in the comments in the past series))
Shah Sultan is well done, however. A worthy opponent for Hurrem )
И как же бесит Рустем и всегда бесил, такой он охеревший
Они все злятся на Хюррем только потому что они бумерствуют и не хотят сдвигать многолетние порядки с места. Если бы изначально они подружились с Хюррем, то всё было бы нормально. Даже Махидевран уже не о любви к Сулейману думает, а просто о том, как бы Хюррем не досталось больше власти.