I am tormented by one question in the first seasons, they tried not to kill people if possible, in which a demon sits and exorcise demons, they arranged a tragedy if someone was accidentally killed by one now they don't give a shit that a bunch of ordinary people were killed because of this, they don't even sweat it somehow annoying
@Moortini: damn, yes, I think about it all the time (before, at least they tried to dissuade at least for the relatives of the possessed that they had been dead for a long time.
@Moortini: I agree, and although sometimes there is simply no other way out and at the moment it is necessary, there are also cases when it was possible to expel. Perhaps the problem is that in order to be expelled, you must first drive into a trap.
Meg will be missed. Even if you take this particular series - guys, well, she just dragged everything on herself) her barbs, her no longer subtle hints to Kasu, her self-sacrifice in the end. Despite the fact that she is a demon (let's not be racist), Meg is a likeable character
Naomi's not right in the head. Or just naive to the point of stupidity. How could such conditions be imposed on an angel who was unwillingly recruited into her secret troops? I understand if she started screaming something like "Obey! Do what I say!", but give out "Either us or them." Heh. Did she really hope that he would choose the murky heavenly CIA instead of the brothers who had long accepted him into their family? He would have thought for a long time…
Damn, what a cool and sad episode :’( So many warm words, it just takes my soul away.. and there are plenty of gorgeous jokes)))
- But I didn't come here to avenge the dead, I need a stone tile with handwriting - Keep your pocket wider - How cheeky you are, it makes me wetter in the most immodest places
It's very funny)) But Crowley is an asshole that killed Meg : with
And about ".. I need you.." is generally a separate song.. Wow, this is a great series!
It's a pity for Meg, especially considering the reason why the actress had to leave the series (If anyone did not know, she was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, in this episode it is already clear that she walks with difficulty)
- Gena, is it very hard for you to carry things? - Well, how can I tell you Cheburashka... It's very hard - Listen to Gene, let me carry my things, and you take me - That's a great idea of yours.
- And even though I can't bear the burden of all these trials... I can carry you. - Did you realize that you quoted "The Lord of the Rings"? - Come on, it's Sam Gamgee. The coolest hobbit!
I feel sorry for Meg. Especially considering that the actress herself has serious health problems, which is why she ended her career in 2013. For some reason, it seems to me that if it weren't for this, she would definitely be alive for a couple more seasons
The creepy beginning of the series, a bunch of dead Dinah tin ((( It's a pity for Meg, even when she heard that the Winchesters wanted to close the gates to hell, she did not rush to Crowley's side, although it would be logical. Cas outsmarted everyone, well done. This tablet is much more dangerous than the one about demons.
Cas: He can teleport to any point, flew around half the world a few episodes ago to collect ingredients for a bomb against demons. Also Cas: rides the bus.
Finally, the brothers said that they would tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Keep it up, guys. Until the end of the series.
I don't understand why they made Castiel kill Dean a thousand times in heaven? So that if, in some incomprehensible way, Dean happens to have this table about angels, Castiel can kill him and take it away? But Dean didn't even know about her existence after all. Or did they break Castiel by forcing him to kill Dean, because he's the most precious thing to him?
I liked Meg. He'll show up, call out to everyone, joke around, help with something, and get out again. But that's it, it won't appear anymore.
@DenisBelashov: Have you trained your muscle memory? Naomi was saying something like, "your vessel has already killed Dean, let him do it again." It was as if there was not a Cas, but a roboKas.
Meg: "I miss that simplicity. I was bad, you were good. Life was simpler. And now the devil will break his leg. I'm kind of nice, which sucks. And you're kind of bad, which turns you on half the time. If we survive, I'll order pizza, and we'll have horizontal dances, do you get it?" How sorry is Meg (The character was colorful...
Well, season 8 of deepening negative feelings turned out to be successful not only with regard to Sam, but also with Cas. So after Dean told him, the most important thing he would say to anyone, showing his mental vulnerability - "I NEED you", what does Cas do? That's right, Dina is leaving again. For the third time this season already. Knowing at the same time that Dean needs him. A wonderful "friendship". When someone needs something from Dean, no one cares about his own problems, they all expect him to do "suck it up" again and jump in to them.
The only exception to all this is Benny. At least he showed gratitude, respect, and understanding for Dean. Something that neither Sam nor Cas would ever be able to do.
Rachel Miner did a great job considering the circumstances. Huge respect!
@Gevorg: He was influenced by Naomi from 8.07 am until this episode. But all three times when he dumped Dean, the influence was either still there or no longer there. The first time, as soon as they got into Purgatory, he took off without explanation. Technically, of course, it's still 7.23, but not the point. The second time, when he did not want to leave this very Purgatory without telling Dean, provoking an even greater deepening of Dean's PTSD and his abandonment issues. For the third time, here for no reason, after he got out of Naomi's influence.
@Nick24: but he's not the same as before. They worked on him, maybe they implanted the idea of staying away from Dean until it was profitable for Naomi, or just now she didn't want them to be together.
It hasn't been mentioned here yet, but according to Robbie Thompson's original script, Dean was supposed to say "I love you" to Cass in that scene in the crypt. It's already Jensen who changed the lines to "We're family...I need you", arguing that it would be out of character for Dean, and to call a family and recognize the need for someone would be the highest indicator that this person is extremely important to Dean. It's good that Jensen knew his character better than the writers.
At first, I thought that the beginning of the series was someone's dream/vision, but that would be too banal for spn
The Magstiels would be great, what can I say 💔
Cas and his decisions have been disappointing to me for a long time. I understand the motivation behind his decisions, but I can't approve. Too selfish for an angel. A colorful character, pleasant, interesting, but by no means beloved. The only time I liked him the most was when he first appeared. A real adorable strong angel. Now there are only disappointments. But he fits well into the codependent relationship of the brothers, also acts impulsively and does not learn from his mistakes. Or else he does not consider them mistakes. But his "I'll do everything myself", "I won't say anything", "and maybe it will pass..." meh
But of course I'm not talking about when Cas was influenced by Naomi. And at the end of the series, he kind of "reset the factory settings." This season, I have no special complaints about him yet, apart from the tacit decision to stay in purgatory and the silent departure into the sunset. I don't like these caregivers in English. And this has a very strong effect on Dean's mental state, of course. But Cas is still a great guy, he resisted Naomi well!
@AlekseyG66: The actress was ill and needed to leave the project. Multiple sclerosis. In principle, they could have found her a "new shell", but in my opinion, the way they acted with the role of an actress was the most correct from a moral point of view. And with art, perhaps, too.
I was in awe of how Cas resisted Naomi and defeated her manipulations!!! BUT THEN WHAT DOES CAS DO!!!??? He takes the tablets and throws them into the misty distance AGAIN! SERIOUSLY!!!??? That's what the hell, Cas!!!!!!!???? What are you doing, you feathered idiot!!!??? Well, yes, now he will mess up with three boxes and fly to Dean: "HELP!". And someone else is offended that Dean's attitude towards him has changed!? I'm not surprised at all!
@id386471659: By the way, here I find the actions of Cas Out of Character. Castiel, of course, is not perfect and he used to do rash and frankly stupid things. But both he and Dean went through a lot together, and until the second half of this season, I believed that Cas understood Dean and took care of him in his own way - even take episode 6.20, where Cas aloud admitted that Dean sacrificed a lot, etc. And here after Dean admitted that He needs help, our dear angel takes off and leaves for no reason. Cas is not a heartless idiot enough to do that. Imho, the writers just needed to get him away from Dean so that Dean would be fully focused on baby Sammy. So they started to destroy Dean and Cas's relationship.
And how much can you blame the screenwriters for everything? This is their script, everything, everyone was leaked, Cas is not holy and not caring. It's time to come to terms with it and stop seeing the characters as they used to be. The past has passed. Changes are inevitable
@13freiheit: changes are one thing, but intentional character assassination, out of character writing is quite another. As a viewer, I have the right to criticize the screenwriters as much as I see fit.
@Gevorg: I think there are a lot of people criticizing the series. And in general, the motivation and opinions of most Dinocentric viewers are quite similar, so there is nothing to surprise at all. I can observe at least 3 commentators with similar opinions here.
Dean: Listen, I may not be able to carry the burden that comes along with these trials... But I can carry you. Thank you, scriptwriters, we have already realized that Sam is the only main character in the story, who again has great torment in the form of Trialculosis, that even an angel cannot heal him. And Dean is just a personal babysitter and driver for Sam, let him do it, cook for him, clean, measure the temperature. Dean washes socks with panties for Sam too, I want to ask?
And, of course, even in conversation with Meg, Sam starts whining about a normal life again. The 8th, damn it, season. The series was announced and created about brothers saving people and hunting evil spirits, and not about "Martyr Sam, who wants to escape from saving people in search of a cloudless life with veterinarians and downed dogs." With such installations, please go to soap operas, not horror shows.
Rachel really gave her 100%. Well done! It's a pity that everything turned out this way.
@79Warrior: Sam was the main character from the very beginning: it was a demon chasing him, it was his name that was first in the credits, it was the story of 5 seasons that revolved around him.
@Gevorg: Both brothers are declared the main characters. The name in the credits doesn't mean anything. "The story of 5 seasons revolved around him." Seriously? Well, yes, indeed, now I have to forget about the set-up about The Righteous Man, created by Ben Edlund in OtHoaP, I have to forget about the plans of angels and demons for Dean/Mikhail in season 5. Oh, yes, of course you should, because Kripke and Co. absolutely this was done in the finale of season 5, completely destroying the whole point of the 4th and most of the 5th in order to grant Sam/ Jared the right to be the only hero, and let the rest stand aside.
@79Warrior: everyone is a hero in their own way. In the credits, the names are not side by side, but separately, which means Sam is more important. I don't know what the HOAP is, but season 5 has passed, the direct war between angels and demons has passed. In the season 5 finale, Sam sacrificed himself by agreeing to become Lucifer's receptacle. Dean sacrificed himself by putting himself in danger. Well, if there are two brothers, then that's it - both are heroes of their own story, each sees the world in their own way. And before complaining that Dean is giving up everything for Sam, remember season 5, as Zachariah described the brothers.
It's a very cool series, it's gorgeous, but how could you kill Meg, she's on the side of the Winchesters, she was on the side of good, even though she was a demon? Why was she removed, maybe they'll resurrect her later? To be honest, I was impressed with her, and she was always honest. Oh, I also liked the phrase that Meg said to Sam: "Now I understand why Crowley calls you moose"🤣😂😂
But it's really a pity that she was killed, such a tandem with Cas was planned ... 💔
The sight of Dean's dead bodies at the beginning of the series is creepy >___<
"Did you realize that you just quoted The Lord of the Rings?"
In terms of references to other films and TV series, superi is probably one of the richest and ideally used in the context of the series)))
in the first seasons, they tried not to kill people if possible, in which a demon sits and exorcise demons, they arranged a tragedy if someone was accidentally killed by one
now they don't give a shit that a bunch of ordinary people were killed because of this, they don't even sweat
it somehow annoying
So many warm words, it just takes my soul away.. and there are plenty of gorgeous jokes)))
- But I didn't come here to avenge the dead, I need a stone tile with handwriting
- Keep your pocket wider
- How cheeky you are, it makes me wetter in the most immodest places
It's very funny)) But Crowley is an asshole that killed Meg : with
And about ".. I need you.." is generally a separate song.. Wow, this is a great series!
- You quoted the Lord of the Rings if anything.
I'm laughing, damn it. And it was so romantic, eh, Sam)))
- Well, how can I tell you Cheburashka... It's very hard
- Listen to Gene, let me carry my things, and you take me
- That's a great idea of yours.
© Cheburashka and the crocodile Gene (series 3 - Shapoklyak)
- Did you realize that you quoted "The Lord of the Rings"?
- Come on, it's Sam Gamgee. The coolest hobbit!
The references we deserve :)
Sam Gamgee is ever's favorite character)
I'm so upset at this point
It's a pity for Meg, even when she heard that the Winchesters wanted to close the gates to hell, she did not rush to Crowley's side, although it would be logical.
Cas outsmarted everyone, well done. This tablet is much more dangerous than the one about demons.
And I need a new heart, otherwise it's broken.
(c) the red-haired hobbit
Also Cas: rides the bus.
I don't understand why they made Castiel kill Dean a thousand times in heaven? So that if, in some incomprehensible way, Dean happens to have this table about angels, Castiel can kill him and take it away? But Dean didn't even know about her existence after all. Or did they break Castiel by forcing him to kill Dean, because he's the most precious thing to him?
I liked Meg. He'll show up, call out to everyone, joke around, help with something, and get out again. But that's it, it won't appear anymore.
How sorry is Meg (The character was colorful...
The only exception to all this is Benny. At least he showed gratitude, respect, and understanding for Dean. Something that neither Sam nor Cas would ever be able to do.
Rachel Miner did a great job considering the circumstances. Huge respect!
The Magstiels would be great, what can I say 💔
Cas and his decisions have been disappointing to me for a long time. I understand the motivation behind his decisions, but I can't approve. Too selfish for an angel.
A colorful character, pleasant, interesting, but by no means beloved. The only time I liked him the most was when he first appeared. A real adorable strong angel. Now there are only disappointments.
But he fits well into the codependent relationship of the brothers, also acts impulsively and does not learn from his mistakes. Or else he does not consider them mistakes. But his "I'll do everything myself", "I won't say anything", "and maybe it will pass..." meh
But Cas is still a great guy, he resisted Naomi well!
In principle, they could have found her a "new shell", but in my opinion, the way they acted with the role of an actress was the most correct from a moral point of view.
And with art, perhaps, too.
And here after Dean admitted that He needs help, our dear angel takes off and leaves for no reason. Cas is not a heartless idiot enough to do that. Imho, the writers just needed to get him away from Dean so that Dean would be fully focused on baby Sammy. So they started to destroy Dean and Cas's relationship.
Thanks, at least it heals later. Meg-I feel terribly sorry for the actress, she's awesome.
Thank you, scriptwriters, we have already realized that Sam is the only main character in the story, who again has great torment in the form of Trialculosis, that even an angel cannot heal him.
And Dean is just a personal babysitter and driver for Sam, let him do it, cook for him, clean, measure the temperature. Dean washes socks with panties for Sam too, I want to ask?
And, of course, even in conversation with Meg, Sam starts whining about a normal life again. The 8th, damn it, season. The series was announced and created about brothers saving people and hunting evil spirits, and not about "Martyr Sam, who wants to escape from saving people in search of a cloudless life with veterinarians and downed dogs." With such installations, please go to soap operas, not horror shows.
Rachel really gave her 100%. Well done! It's a pity that everything turned out this way.
"The story of 5 seasons revolved around him." Seriously? Well, yes, indeed, now I have to forget about the set-up about The Righteous Man, created by Ben Edlund in OtHoaP, I have to forget about the plans of angels and demons for Dean/Mikhail in season 5. Oh, yes, of course you should, because Kripke and Co. absolutely this was done in the finale of season 5, completely destroying the whole point of the 4th and most of the 5th in order to grant Sam/ Jared the right to be the only hero, and let the rest stand aside.
Well, if there are two brothers, then that's it - both are heroes of their own story, each sees the world in their own way.
And before complaining that Dean is giving up everything for Sam, remember season 5, as Zachariah described the brothers.
Oh, I also liked the phrase that Meg said to Sam: "Now I understand why Crowley calls you moose"🤣😂😂
It was an interesting character... 🥺