I'm sorry for climbing up- I wanted you to read this.
Listen, have you ever wondered what kind of bar Vandavision set? Look, we have (in my opinion) the standard of action and epicness - "Infinity War" and/ or "Finale". But now, in fact, Marvel is closing (I hope that by the end of the series it will not merge) another burden - the topic of relationships and "finding your self". Here we have a husband / wife (a sharp deterioration in the relationship), a reaction after the death of a loved one, partially children (although this component is weaker). They also show us how a person goes crazy/ how they drive him crazy. I'm not talking about jokes and phrases with double meanings. And I'm not so sure that in this area it will be possible to compete with this series. And yes, there are a number of reasons: - the series is released only once a week, and as much as I do not complain that it takes a whole week, this is the best format. If the series had been released in its entirety, then we would not have had an intrigue, and we would have stumbled upon spoilers within a couple of hours after the release. Right there for a while (Friday-Saturday in my case) after the episode, we think, "Wow, that's great. What will happen next? And what did this advertisement mean? What does it all mean?" And since Thursday, I've been like, "Well, it's okay, there's not much left...To be patient a little bit." Imagine that it would be a movie. Well, the maximum duration is 3 hours (although 2 for this genre is the ceiling in cinemas). 3 trailers. A couple of days after them, the Internet would buzz and that's it, but there would be no opportunity to reveal all the subtleties of the emotional state of the hero.
- Since I've already started talking: Heroes and actors. I've always liked the Scarlet Witch and Vision in the film universe, so the series is the best field for them, since they are either too strong for films, or the format could become repulsively unexpected for some (for example, for children). Yes, and the actors revealed themselves: Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany...You can see everything for yourself. The whole palette of emotions: drama, madness, comedy, fear, despair, and bewilderment... There is probably only one character that I did not enjoy 100% at first. This is Monica. We had to get into her, and in the Marvel cinematic universe it's difficult to do this when familiar characters are at every step (oh, look they're in canonical costumes, oh, look card trick, oh, look she became a doctor ...). Episode 7 is the first episode. in which Monica became much more interesting to me, although we cannot deny that the character lacks a backstory and some kind of personality. "I will go to the end for my righteousness. I'll risk my life because I believe in people." Hmmm...Steve Rogers was like that. But there is a big difference - we saw why and how he was awarded the power, we knew that he could fall all day and then get up, we saw that he sometimes makes not the best decisions, we saw that he can be funny and funny, we saw him, we believed him, because they were with him almost always. With Captain Rambo, we are just starting to go through this path. I hope that it will not become as epic and pretentious as...Well, you get it. Even if it becomes, but give it flaws and features. For example, Agnes is an extremely interesting character, because we have not seen such a thing yet. In addition, her character showed that she can make jokes or quip, that she is far from stupid, she can even sing. It's a pleasure to watch her.
@psa: Yes, Vandavision can be considered the best Marvel series, although we have excellent Daredevil, Punisher and the season of Agents of Shield about Aida. It was a very good decision to fog up, to force the viewer to build theories about what is happening: such series very often turn out to be on the horse. If you meant the new bar for KVM, then I agree. Well, the format of the series itself, as you correctly noted, allows you to better reveal the characters. Although KVM itself is also based on the principle of the series: storylines and characters wander from one movie to another, in order to fully understand what is happening, you need to watch previous films about completely different characters.
But, honestly, BB has no one to compete with yet (except with the Mandalorian, but there the plot is straighter than the ruler): the budget here can be shoveled, the actors came from films, the plot is considered the canon of KVM, plus it is not stretched into thirteen 50-minute episodes. At the moment, this is a very good start for the serial part of KVM, and in 5 years we will see what kind of trace it will leave.
@WordenraL: I've been sitting and waiting for the scene after the credits every episode before, and she hid in this particular episode, which I switched to hd
@WordenraL: I've been checking every episode since the first one, but this one is like, well, okay, I won't look at it until the last second. It's good that I went into the comments. it can be seen that they approached modern films and TV series, after leaps through decades, and decided to include scenes after
It's been Agatha all along. Oh, and yet I hoped that there would be no one, but the real Pietro would be returned. But the dog... There is definitely no forgiveness for this! We are finally approaching the finale, and if the remaining episodes are not an hour +, I am not responsible for myself!! (Darcy is fine, she looked at all the episodes in a week, not like us. We are satisfied with 30 minutes once a week)
And I've been thinking the whole episode: Where did Peters go? That's what it turns out, Agatha and Pietro are villains) I wonder what will happen next.
It's not a fact that the villains, maybe Wanda turned to Agatha herself, I don't think she's a downright negative character. In Marvel, in general, the antagonists are cool, they also empathize: what is Thanos, what is Loki, etc. an incredibly interesting series, thanks to Marvel :)
Oh, there were so many theories about Monica's friend, but in the end nothing unusual. Well, it was confirmed about Agnes. It's a good song at the end, but that "and I killed sparky" ruined everything. For this, I hope it will be severely merged.
We were pleased with the interviews in this episode, especially the Vision)
OMG!!! I think we all guessed that Agnes is a villain, but to give her her own awesome screensaver... WOW!
I wasn't the most ardent fan of Monica's line when there is Wanda and Vision, but the work that was done is impressive. And the visual, and the meaning, even the music at the moment of passing the barrier! Everything is on top. When she got the strength, I even got goosebumps a little bit.
But the total duration of 30 minutes is killing me
⠀ ⠀It is more logical to see references to "Modern Family", because: ⠀1) this series mostly falls on the 2010s, the turn of which has come; 2) It was broadcast on ABC, a TV channel owned by the Disney Company, as well as Marvel Studios.
⠀ While "The Office" (US) aired on the American NBC and dates back to the 2000s era . ⠀
@Zlogorek: references to Modern Family are of course more logical, but the opening credits (where Wanda, Wanda, Wanda, Wanda) are really very similar to the Office, and visual and especially music (right down to the WandaVision inscription itself - there's even a font like in the Family)
Moreover, if I'm not mistaken, and if I'm wrong, correct me, this series should contain references to sitcoms of the zero era. Before that, there was a series from the 90s, before that from the 80s, and so on. And the office, the cult series, is still closer to zero... so...
@fcfv1977: the last time, by the way, she seems to have been in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., where with her help Aida made herself an alternative and at the same time virtual reality for the glory of Hydra, and then she was taken into custody by a Ghost Rider, after this reality and Aida herself was destroyed.
@semargl201: After that, Darkhold also appeared in The Fugitives of the villainess Morgana le Fay. It is very doubtful that this is him, there is no inscription on the cover, and somehow they are not eager to take anything from those Marvel series. You never know the magic books, there was a whole library in Doctor Strange. Maybe it's a nameless spell book at all, purely because a witch in her lair should have one.
This. Simply. Awesome. Office style, Wanda's depression, 2 awesome screensavers in one episode. Monica finally got her powers and became a Photon, I think later she will be a minor person and look into visiting others. Agnes' disclosure was predictable, but her separate intro and Pietro were dragged in at the end. Apparently, it's still Mephisto, it's even a pity, since most of it has already been predicted by the fans and so far there has been only one shocking twist. I will miss the sitcom series, as they have already come very close to modernity + in the remaining 2 episodes they will answer all questions. I wonder how this will end for the whole Vision family, since it will be pointless to kill him 3 times. Children are likely to appear in reality and in a couple of years will be part of the Young Avengers. Most of all, Wanda's fate is of interest, but she has yet to appear in 2 Strange. I am glad that this character was given full disclosure, I have been waiting for this since the age of 15
@Chizhikpyzhik: In fact, when you start watching a new series, ALL the characters are new to you) And only then, with each season, someone is drained, someone is introduced. So it's kind of normal, kmk
I think that's why they were divided into different series. The Falcon and the Soldier are in one, Loki is in the other, Thor has his soloists, the spider has his own.
When I read Wikipedia, I wonder HOW MANY characters there really are in comics. heroes, villains, heroes who became villains and vice versa. Teams in which one or another hero participated, and there are also restarts, crossovers, alternative universes, etc., etc., etc.)))
well, in general, yes, for example, on the contrary, I am happy that new faces are appearing.
Afiget. Still Agnes. That is, Agatha. It's interesting that we suspected her all this time, but it seems after the last episode, where she was also stuck on the edge of the city, personally, my suspicions almost disappeared. And here are those on. She will be stronger than Wanda in terms of capabilities, since she has confused her in all this.
Well, Monica was rewritten on a molecular basis (as Darcy said) and got her abilities. I wonder if she'll keep them, or if they'll only act throughout the series.
Darcy is gorgeous. She shone here and in her role in the sitcom, albeit a little, well, as Darcy, respectively. Why didn't Vision just take off and fly home with Darcy? They were driving a car.
And "Pietro" means also in league with Agatha. I wonder who he really is.
And about the engineer, they had been intrigued for so long, they talked in interviews, but it turned out that this was some kind of unknown woman. Maybe I don't know anything, of course, but I don't know her :)
@DenisBelashov: It's curious - Monica got her abilities by going through the barrier three times. But in principle, there were certain changes after the second time. I assume that the first time does not pass without a trace. So, potentially, all the agents of the Sword, plus Darcy, are also applicants for abilities? Or are all three times mandatory?
@zhulai: if I understood correctly, she received abilities because the barrier rebuilds the essence of a person, therefore he can both change clothes and give superpowers. It seems like they should be like Captain Marvel's, since it was in the comics and when Monica passed through the barrier, she thought about Carol
@Bergium: So, only the third transition was decisive, because she was walking consciously and thinking about Carol? But we know that after the first two, Monica had a non-standard blood test. How does it all add up to one picture?
@zhulai: Is there a chance that Monica is a special case? For some reason we don't understand, only she changed, and not because she passed through the barrier several times.
@zhulai: it seems to me that it is crucial to pass through the barrier with the right "thoughts", so that you would not be overwritten. And the first and second times are just garbage from overwriting, so to speak.
@DenisBelashov: I really don't like special cases without explanations :) They look too much like Mary Sue. Hopefully, the creators will still tell you something.
It's not that simple here. Wanda herself allegedly received abilities from the mind stone, but then in one book there was a clarification about the fact that she always had the mutant gene (as in Pietro), and the stone only unlocked abilities. It's the same with other people. Whoever has the mutant gene, they are unlocked when passing through the barrier.
@DenisBelashov: gene X, which is responsible for mutations) is activated somewhere by terrigen, and somewhere by Wanda's field (but it's not exactly her field)
@Eros: So isn't pure terrigen deadly to everyone, except nonhumans? If it is mixed with something else, then it awakens the abilities of Inhumans, but it does not harm anyone from the rest.
Yes, I can imagine the disappointment of the twins when their gamepads from modern cool systems first turned into Gaming clubs, and then into joysticks for Atari. What? Pitfall? What's with all the graphics? Where does this squeaking come from? Maaaaam?
@Vitos84: so I'm talking about the graphics in the Pitfall game on the Atari 2600 console, which the twins had joysticks with. There was 4-bit graphics, and for the boys it had to be a real blow
I started having a panic attack when the screensaver went on, why is it only Wanda everywhere, where Vision is, and rushed. What a cool start. And there is a scene after the credits! Don't miss it!
Snoopers gonna snoop! Evan Peters manages to flash x in 4 seconds) I was afraid until the last moment that we would not see him again. I had very little of him in the X-Men, I would like both him and Magneto to stay on the screen longer (
The theories were confirmed, but I did not expect Agatha to get her screensaver. It was a cool and funny move.
I laughed at how Wanda did not let Vision get home x) And as it dawned on him: "Why am I even sitting here with you and chatting? I have to go home to my wife!"
I hope the twins will be all right. The boys are very charismatic and interesting as characters. I wish they had stayed longer.
But the 30-minute format is killing me. I just yawned and the episode ended. This is no longer possible(
@Anaichka: but in general, the question is: where did Agatha get Pietro? It will be sad if in fact it's just a lefty dude, and Peters was cast only for the sake of sending...
How can we wait another week?! I think that the main line on which we wanted to focus our attention is failing. And at first I thought that Wanda had simply overestimated her strength and could not control everything, but only her house was malfunctioning, and people on the outskirts had come to life. In this episode, Mommy was drinking pills and behaving strangely, it feels like she's going crazy.Her smile in conversation with Monica...Have we been introduced to a new potential villain?But someone had specially trained Wanda for all this. What if the broadcast was created specifically to set the world against the heroine, and when SWORD, after expanding the field, finally decided that Wanda was the cause of all the troubles, then the meaning of the broadcast disappeared. Or is there a bigger player here than an ordinary witch? Now I'll tell you about the negligent hubby. Why didn't he just fly with Darcy right away?But Darcy is every one of us: "I would like to be a part of the series."There is also a retelling from Darcy (did you still want Luce to do it?).SHIIIIK. And yes, someone didn't want Vision to get there.But why is it immediately Wanda?Isn't it more logical to put Pietro in this role, whom he has already received once because of a man with an (almost) invulnerable (almost) head. Thanks to the creators for the excellent and elaborate backstory of the new Captain Marvel/Photon.What a great visual, I was directly struck by the passage through the barrier and how we were shown the abilities. And it's great that Monica thought to look at others when she met Wanda. I'm already like, "Come on, come on, come on." And then Agnes appears on the scene, pam-pam-pam-pam... And if you think that she decided on her own that it was time to open up, then I'm not sure about that. Tommy "did not hear" anything inside Agnes, although he heard the thoughts of others (noise). Here it is time to act and take away Wanda's forces to control the Darkhold (hello, Agents of the SHIELD).But I think that Agnes is the tip of the iceberg, a certain Ralph will still cause problems. P.S. Listen, what did Hayward launch there?
P.S. God forbid if the last two episodes are short.
@Kensei: OMG!!! You are a genius!! In this case, they (the guardians) will hunt for the energy of Wanda, which in the future will cause the appearance of mutants!!! That is, the mutants themselves...
The series flew by in an instant. Wanda got into the image of Claire perfectly!)
How can Darcy know that Wanda killed Vision, and Thanos turned back time and killed him himself? If Thanos returned the time, then no one should know about what was in the "canceled" version, right? The mistake of the authors who wanted to add humor to the scene?
@Staskhramtsov: Thanos returned time not globally, but directly wrapped it in relation to Vision's body. This was demonstrated in Dr. Strange, on the apple, where he used the time stone to change its state, from whole to completely gnawed.
Gorgeous, of course. Apparently, after all, Agatha needs an adult Tommy and Billy, but why... what about Pietro? Agatha knows how to raise the dead, or she just made the left guy play the role of Mercury. Monica finally got the power, the first mutant created by Wanda. * about* Wanda, apparently, will still be the villain for the last series, or Agatha showed her how she manipulated her with magic. It's good that Dottie was not forgotten and was shown, like for the first time, in color.
The artifact of Agnes, maybe with the help of Wanda and him, she will summon Mephisto and exchange the children for more powers.
@Mister Deep: Pietro = the second villain, mb even chapters.the villain You don't have to believe everything that was shown in the series. Through this screensaver, they just want to convince that Agatha is doing everything. But that's only if you look through the prism of this show (Wanda's illusions)
I want to discuss advertising: Nexus... I have 2 interpretations: 1)https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Nexus_of_All_Realities Nexus is a bridge between parallel realities. And the advertisement says, "Choose the reality that you like." And we know that the era of the multiverse is coming. And yes, it sounds logical. Ask the Doctor. And there are two contenders at once. Dr. Strange and Dr. Selvig, who in Torah 2 mentioned the bridge between the worlds. And again everything is fine, but there is BUT 2)
2)https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Nexus_Beings Nexus refers to incredibly strong personalities who are actually the "cornerstones of the universe." They can literally manage time (and we have already seen that for twins, age is a convention). Do you know who the Nexus were in the comics? That's right, the children of the Scarlet Witch, who are so successfully controlled by Agnes.
@psa: Thank you, very interesting. I hope the first option will be correct. I would not like more and more omnipotent characters to be introduced into the KVM, otherwise then they do not know what to do with them and will be sent far away from Earth. But bringing the realities of the MCU and X-Men together will be interesting.
But somehow I doubt that Agatha can control the children. In a conversation on the couch, one of the twins clearly stupefied her with his abilities. As far as I understood, he unintentionally reads other people's thoughts, and her thoughts have a barrier, so he was pleased that he was quiet around her. And she realized that if he wanted to, he could easily break through the barrier.
@id70201890: When the boys were sitting with Agatha, Vikan held and stroked the rabbit. I think it's the same rabbit. But Alya "luntik" on TV, dressed in the colors of Tommy and Billy, are they washing?
There is another funny thing about advertising. The active substance in this medicine is nexulpromocide. The suffix -cide denotes either the person/substance that kills, or the act of killing itself. A murder promotion? Murder through promotion? It's funny in general. By the way, it seems that these are the pills that Wanda drinks before Monica arrives.
Now, to the rest. The main question is, who is interviewing people? Of course, they showed us Agatha, but THE VOICE is NOT HERS. And the voice is familiar. I would even say, maybe it's the voice of Vision?
It's a pity that the engineer was leaked. Or maybe they haven't leaked it yet, and we'll find out who it was in the next episodes. After all, there has to be another big cameo.
Agatha was seriously scared of the twins when she was told that she was quiet inside. And turned them into rabbits? :)
Somewhere I heard that the last three episodes will be an hour long, but again 34 minutes. This is some kind of mockery!!!
@EmilD: Because we're kind of watching the Vandavision series. A series in which the creators play the game "Guess what we're up to here" with us. Look, they showed a fly on the curtain, and someone has already drawn a conclusion about Mephisto from this (maybe it is, I don't know the theory so well :)).
And we discuss and try to guess. Each phrase may turn out to be a hint. And every new person can turn out to be someone's cameo (and after 2*8 Mandalorians, this cameo can turn out to be mind-blowing). By the way, there could be a lot of options here - Reed Richards, Beiste. Yes, the same Shuri (although no, Monica is not familiar with Shuri). Moreover, it felt as if the role of this engineer had been specially emphasized several times. But apparently not, it was a false deception.
@id244895720: Everyone thought that the major who brought the armored car to Monica would be Reed Richards, a member of the fantastic Four. But it turned out that it wasn't... Or maybe this major just brought an armored car, but Reed Richards designed it after all.
Well, it was expected about Agatha. I wonder if Wanda will kill her and if Agatha's ghost will become her friend, as it was in the solo comics? Hopefully, after all the madness, there will be a solo album by Aloy about her adventures in the world of magic. And I also hope that Agatha just opened a gap in the reality of the X-Men and pulled out the Mercury, hypnotized him. I want Evan Peters in the movie universe, ahah. P.S. Darcy is a goddess!!!
@KillerTargaryen: if he is quicksilver, then he is not the same feigi who has long said that actors like McAvoy Fassbender and others, if they return to roles, then they will not be the same characters in the X-Men film universe there is too much confusion and inconsistencies that no one will pull by the ears to kvm
@Anaichka: in general, it seems to me that Pietro is just a real Quicksilver, it's just that his mind is now controlled by Agatha. Why he is in the image of Evan Peters - I hope they will answer, but I hope that at the end of the series, when the spell is removed, he will enter the film universe fully :D
Wanda's behavior at the beginning of the series is unclear. First, she expands the boundaries of the dome to save Vision, and then she takes and scores on him. Vision just stayed lying in the field and it doesn't matter if everything is fine with him or not. It is also unclear why Wanda did not throw Pietro out of the dome, as she did with Monica, after she realized that he was not her brother. It didn't disappoint much how Monica got the abilities. From a visual point of view, there are no questions, everything is beautiful, colorful, cool music, but from the point of view of the plot, it was possible to make some more interesting twist. And it so happened that Monica came in, came out, and she already has abilities. But despite this, Monica's abilities themselves showed very cool, especially I liked how she sees energy. And the moment with the engineer is kind of strange. Two episodes kept the intrigue of who was there, and in the end it turned out to be just a woman who worked with her mother. It's finally been revealed that Agnes is Agatha Harkness! I've been waiting for this for a long time. This is her dungeon with something, very creepy. I hope I didn't eat the twins. I would like to know what her role is in the current events. And where is her husband, whom she talks about all the time. Hopefully in the next episode Darcy and Vision will get to Wanda's house, and Monica will be able to save Wanda from Agatha.
@Mango__: I totally agree about Monica. Carol finally got a kick out of destroying a mega-artifact built by an inhuman genius. She was already glowing at the beginning. And Monica walked through some magical boundary and suddenly became the same.
@Mango__: ">> Monica came in, came out and she already has abilities." ⠀ ⠀Went in, went out and went back in. It is important! ⠀⠀ ⠀ And then there 's more: ⠀⠀— Try turning it off and on again. (c) "The IT Crowd", and indeed any technical support service. ⠀⠀
@Mango__: about "Wanda scored" - obviously, after the expansion of the dome, it crumbled slightly. It's not that you control the city and the show, you can't really control yourself here. And yes, I'm sure Wanda knew perfectly well that Vision was fine.
and I think it would be very stupid to eat such powerful guys. It is wiser to win them over to your side and use their powers. Well, or take him prisoner to blackmail his parents. I think the boys have become teletubbies on TV
I'm so disappointed. That is, Evan is neither KVM's Pietro, nor Peter from the X-Men, it's just some kind of Agnes six, which she controls. It would have been better if they had made Mephisto out of him, even that would have been better.
They broke the fourth wall perfectly. From the moment Wanda started talking to the camera, I kept waiting for the one she was talking to to speak.
It is interesting that she has strength, she has increased the barrier, but it seems that she was confused and very tired. So much so that he can't think about anything. I forgot about Vision, about my brother too. Even the twins seemed to have forgotten that just yesterday they had to save their father.
They introduced Agatha, and since I don't know the character, I can't figure out if she's good or not. Judging by what I read, Agatha helped Wanda and was a kind of mentor in magic. Let's see what the series shows, but her dungeon is, of course, gloomy and not at all friendly.
It's good that there was more Vision, he's also a fan of talking on camera.
If Wanda was talking to Agatha, then a) Who spoke to Vision? b) who talked to Agatha herself?!
With Vision, "Pietro" could speak, which could also prevent him from getting to Wanda, but with Agatha, the options are more difficult and more interesting. x)
And yes, I felt such joy when I watched the credits for the 7th time and finally they gave the hddd scene
Somehow there are not enough references in the series. In principle, everything is as we expected. Agatha is Agnes, who needs Wanda's children, and Monica has become a Photon. The series did not surprise me in any way. I liked the style of the office and the long-awaited scene after the credits. I still have a glimmer of hope that Peter is still a version pulled from the Fox universe, whose mind is controlled by Agnes. Seeing with a buttonhole is just touching X)
@Moka777: If you think logically: 1. Agatha was doing something to Pietro with her purple magic from behind the bushes in the scene when he went to Wanda's house at the end of the fifth episode (hence Pietro!= Mephisto, since he needs extra magic to visit his sister) 2. The series should eventually lead us to the "Multiverse of Madness", which means that we will talk about the multiverse in one form or another 3. This Pietro somehow still has memories of his childhood with Wanda, but slightly different 4. Pietro, like Agnes, is very good at communicating with children, and Wanda is very surprised by this
I bet a mug of beer that Pietro was eventually found by Agatha in the vastness of the multiverse, Peter from the X-men, whom she nevertheless hypnotized.
It seems that Agatha wants to do something powerful (like summoning Mephisto or opening a gap in the universe, which will then be raked by Strange, Wanda and Ludina-pavuk), but her own abilities are not enough for this and she wants to arrange a big release of Wanda's magic to fuel herself. She acts like she's stronger than Wanda, but for some reason she can't do it without Wanda.
However, I really can't believe that the entire team of X-men from Fox will come to us, because even if Marvel + Sony can bring the two previous incarnations of spiders, firstly, something like genetic mutations (Monica with her new abilities) has already been shown to the world, and secondly, a complete To drag the cast of the Fox universe into Marvel and pull the Fox universe by the ears will be sooooo difficult.
@Moka777: There is also a catch here, since the existence of mutants is also a difficult thing for the cinematic universe. Each of the X team has a very, very long story, which can no longer be written into the well-established timeline of the KVM. For example, you can't just take out Wolverine, who was already born a mutant in the 1800s and lived to the present, went through "weapon X" and so on. So most likely Wanda will not directly create all the mutants on the planet. Most likely, several events will happen at once in the end 1) A gap in the multiverse will open, through which our favorite mutants can penetrate (not exactly fox ones, rather some similar guys with their stories that we haven't seen yet) 2) The bubble will expand to the entire planet and generate new mutants who will be able to become pupils for Xavier who has arrived to us 3) Doctor Strange will arrive, tie up Agatha, calm down Wanda and go with her to fix what he has done
@vbifonix: Due to the fact that there will be even more mutants from other universes, I'm not sure, it seems to me that it will be very difficult to do this logistically, because everyone knows how broken the timeline is in the fox universe. (With Deadpool, there is generally a brain drain) If you take mutants from a non-fox universe, it seems to me that fans will be very disappointed, because in fact these are not the same characters that they knew, they will need to re-write the story from the very beginning so that it can be considered canon.
Point number two is the most realistic. By extending the barrier to the entire planet, she will either make new mutants or "awaken" them. I don't hope for Xavier, because we are somewhere in Logan's time. Now in the series 2023, Logan takes place in 2029.
Well, about Strange, yes. The situation cannot be resolved without him. At least he will definitely deal with the consequences after the collapse of the dome.
@vbifonix: P.s. There are some misunderstandings with Monica. She can't be considered a mutant because she wasn't born with the gene, right? So she's probably closer in ability to the Fantastic Four? Plus, in this episode, she wore a uniform very much like the Fantastic Four uniform.
@vk1016689: this is natural if the series is good and you watch an episode a week, so during the week you have an appetite for positive emotions and you are insanely happy about the series) With many TV shows like this, that's the beauty of watching an episode a week
Overall, no surprises, because Agnes's freezing was too suspicious, I didn't buy it. Someone has already become disillusioned with Pietro, but in fact nothing is completely clear with him yet. Well, anyway, everything goes to the mutants in the cinematic universe.
Catherine Khan oh**naya! The screensaver is cool! The scene in the car is monstrously good! Wanda still doesn't control her. Therefore, Billy's "you're quiet inside" sent a slight chill down my spine. The basement is just a fire, atmospherically ominous. But I still can't believe that she's the main antagonist, it's too simple, so I'm expecting someone else (Mephisto, for example), but let's see. Wanda avoids Vision because she is afraid to face him now that he knows the truth about his backstory. In the previous episode, they already had understandable conflict situations, she doesn't want to now (and then too) to sort things out and so on, Wanda u s t a l a. But she'll have to. Gemini is funny, but the advertisement is even bigger, there are many options with its interpretation, one is cooler than the other. Although it was clear that Monica would gain strength, but despite the beauty of the visual, somehow I did not have enough emotional attachment to feel this moment with her more deeply, the new heroine is just good. But the scene with her and Wanda near the house was amazing, and I also really liked her renewed vision. Carol is constantly being teased, I can't wait to be told about the case. Darcy and Vision are the best, especially sweetly annealed Vision with his "what am I doing here with you, what an absurdity, I need to go to my wife" :D It's a pity that Darcy is not dressed in a waitress uniform, heh, the suit is also cute. All the actresses and actors are wonderful, Lizzie is gorgeous, I'm very happy for Paul, it's clear that he's high.
It seems to me that the character of Evan Peters is still Mercury from the X-Men. Perhaps Agatha bewitched him somehow so that he would think he was Pietro.
Damn, the episode is just a thrill in its purest form!
• A mockumentary-style general plan and an Office-style screensaver • Comedy truck driving by Darcy and Vision • Monica broke through and became a superhero • Agnes/Agatha, as expected, still effectively told about her villainy (this witch screensaver is just a top!) • well, Wanda, who is trying to figure out why everything is falling apart
The scene after the credits did not accidentally appear in this series, since the fashion for such scenes fell just for these years shown in the sitcom)
In general, judging by the comments, people are divided into two types, those who see references to the office and those who see an American family) Secondly, I couldn't handle the office (
@vk775121: The musical motif in the screensaver of this series resembles that in the Office US screensaver, as well as the presentation of the screensaver as a whole. But the interview scenes are really more like an American Family. And in previous episodes there were references not just to one series, but to an era/decade in general.
And imagine if Wanda were to fight Agatha. Quicksilver (if it's him after all) will be freed from control and there will be a scene with slomo under the music, as in X-Men
@damned-selena: I can't disagree))) I'm not looking at the first episode myself) I have to watch the series a second time to notice something besides it)))
At first I wanted to say that Agatha is the friend you need during a nervous breakdown, and she is a natural witch with a personal gloomy basement in which children disappear. However, the screensaver with Agatha is fire! No wonder she has such a witchy laugh from the first episode eh
Okay, Agatha is a villain (the screensaver is a masterpiece!), and Pietro is with her, but they are not behind the creation of the dome anyway, and they clearly do not know who. If it were otherwise, Pietro in the last episode would not have tried diligently to find out from Wanda how she did it. Most likely, Agatha noticed the magical activity and decided to get such power for herself, so she infiltrated Westview and began to ingratiate herself with Wanda. So it's still either Mephisto/someone else of his level who is not related to her, or Wanda herself. And the second option, in my opinion, is much more interesting I also doubt very much that Pietro is plucked from another reality and/or hypnotized. Either purely the creation of Agatha, or some kind of her henchman, depending on what level of power she has. At the very least, the corpse is a puppet, but that would be too much trouble for her. Wanda's fast brother, who died heroically in Sokovia, is most likely known to the public, and a copy can be created. The character and manners are not accurate, Wanda has no memories of her childhood, because this is fiction. And he explained the change of face himself by saying that it was related to the injury. It was Peters in this role who was purely a joke for fans, he already played the character coolly, why not take him again?
I don't give a shit about Monica. Secondary characters like Jim, Agatha or Darcy are much more interesting to watch, they are charismatic, they have cool dialogues and understandable motivation. It feels like the problems of the movie in which this character was shown have shifted to her. Another Mary's character like the same captain. She was thrown into a new organization without any briefings (despite the fact that she is not aware of the events of recent years at all), all the technologies appear to her as soon as she wants to. The most ultra-super-duper-giga-mega APC could not get into the dome, but she could and got super powers. Why? That's because she's strong and independent and generally wasn't filmed for you, if you don't want to, don't look. What is her motivation? Why is Wanda's fate so important to her? Why, instead of solving a specific problem that she was assigned, does she just tear up to hang out with Wanda? What kind of vibe does she have?
The character contributed 0 impact to the plot, even Darcy (a minor character) contributed more than Monica. If you cut out all the scenes with Monica, then the plot will not lose its integrity. It took about 50% of the timekeeping of this series and the bitch did literally nothing, and meanwhile, there are only 2 episodes left
@thuglifer: Monica (the little girl in the Captain Marvel movie) is the daughter of Maria Rambo, who was the director/founder of the SWORD and who was a friend of Carol Danvers.
@monster: in short, it's all about the gang :I agree with the orange elephant. Monica's character was stuck on as if hastily. Well, the story "a strong black woman against a cowardly white man" sticks too stubbornly in the eyes. I'm for strong female characters. But not such clumsily prescribed ones. I really liked Darcy. Humorous, without pathos, smart.
And another question, am I the only one at the beginning of the series at the moment when Wanda cooks herself cereal, in the subtitles (original from Disney +, as I understand it) there is a radio or TV on which they talk about yesterday's Halloween, but there is no voiceover? Have you filled in the unfinished version or decided not to insert it, but there is something left in the subtitles from the script? Interestingly, I download a version with a full set of languages, most of them have it (English, Italian, French, etc.), but a few - German, Danish and Swedish - do not
@Snegnarek: ну... нет. Там полноценная речь, а на пачках стандартные надписи. В субтитрах на языках без этого как раз подписи к молоку RJ: Good morning, Westviewians. Thanks for tuning in to W.N.D.A. Not a thing weighing heavily on your conscience. I hope your little ghosts arrived home safe last night. It's always such a treat to see those creepy kiddos out and about once a year. Later on, we'll hear some tips on how to resist the temptation of all that leftover candy. Or just eat it all?
@OrangeElephant: Oh, I thought I'd missed something or misunderstood... maybe they wanted to put the sound of radio or TV in the background, but they forgot...
Вроде и похоже на Modern Family по закадровым съемкам, но заставка не похожа... Куда делись мальчики? Ну, это точно Агата - тут о ней теории с самого начала были. Спасибо, что Вижн таки живой, но можно его как-то побольше? Дарси слишком мало была в образе)) а жаль - она ж так любила сериал) почему опять по 30 мин серии? Когда там обещанное увеличение будет?
Интригуют как обычно... Неделя прошла и снова ждать неделю... Пфффффффф!!! Но серия классная. Начинается введение в реальный мир, видим Ванду подавленную и потихоньку сходящую с ума.
Агнесс ожидаемо должна была стать злодейкой, но что-то мне подсказывает, что не всё так просто. Чтобы это узнать, я с нетерпением жду 8 и 9 серию, так как, там должен начаться капец!
Интересно куда пропали близнецы, либо же они правда играли на улице, а Агата просто заманила Ванду в подвал. Сцена с подвалом, кстати, весьма жуткая была.
Моника радует! Её превращение очень красиво сделано, надеюсь, что она сможет помочь Ванде.
Пьетро до сих пор под вопросом, хотя он появляется в сцене после титров, непонятно кто он такой.
Отдельная заставка посвящённая Агате 😰 Жутковато немного было, но сделано круто.
Вижн и Дарси лучшие! 🤣 Как они ехали до Вествью, что-то с чем-то. Вижна жалко, он абсолютно ничего не понимает, хотя и очень любит Ванду.
Серия зачёт, в общем. Ждём дальше.
(А, и моменты с ломанием четвёртой стены 👏🏻, Олсен богиня)
- Попробуйте сами сказать десятилеткам, что их мама кукухой поехала.
Эти вставки с разговорами, особенно с Агнес, просто шедевр! 😂 Как же Монике идет этот новый светящийся цвет глаз ❤ Вот так концовка, не знаю как остальным, но мне прям очень зашла Агнес/Агата (хотя песика я ей не прощу!). С нетерпением жду следующую пятницу!
С Агатой все было очевидно и я так рад, что наконец-то пошло раскручивание всего, Ждем двух часовых эпизодов, как продержаться? Козел в подвале - Мефисто в итоге увидим? Где Стрендж?
Сериал, конечно, крут во всём, но наибольшей похвалы он заслуживает за то, что даёт Хан раскрыться. Совершенно чудеснейшая она тут, да и с музыкальной темой ещё, которую я тут же готов ставить на репит. Серьёзно, Agatha all along заслуживает какой-то награды даже
Учитывая комиксную Агату, скорее всего Ванда решила за ее счет оправдаться, выставив ее главной злодейкой своего шоу. Если это не так - то я хочу забыть все серии после 6ой. Я пришел и затянулся вандавижн не потому, что это марвел, а потом что наконец-то стал сериал говорить о реальных проблемах, а не о «злодей потому что злодей». И по серии мне видно, что Агату делают такой.
пропавший ребёнок на пакете молока, который держит в руках Ванда, - один из детей, которых Ванда "похитила" к Хэллоуину, или кто-то более знакомый нам? (по ссылке скрин из серии) https://sun9-61.userapi.com/impg/y7v2cEey9CaNEREzOZ_wwQOwNL6we-IFU9GJzg/OB1QwOD_MlI.jpg?size=1920x1006&quality=96&proxy=1&sign=df02be3ad1173a58fc5cb41d48f9da23&type=album
А меня ведь поначалу минусили за Агату и за подозрения, что это она пёсика убила. Ну сценаристы завернули, особенно с Моникой. Хотя, всё как раз в духе времени. Супер героиня раз, чёрная супер героиня два, супер злодейка три. Вижн как-то меркнет на их фоне, пока что. Вот мой предикшин на финал - Вижн, с помощью любви (ну и куда же без помощи Моники) растопит чары Агаты и Ванда, выйдя из под контроля разума, накостыляет всем злодеям. Конец.
Ещё раньше у меня было подозрение, что в камео появится никто иной, как Профессор Икс, а может и не он один. Это будет логично, во-первых, так как это отчасти согласуется с комиксами. Во-вторых, если Пьетро реально взят из другой вселенной (и находится под воздействием чар), за ним могут прийти Люди Икс/Профессор Икс. В третьих, это хорошая возможность засветить мутантов. Стрэндж не тянет на камео совсем, особенно сейчас его появление уже точно не будет удивительным. Это не означает, что он не появится в сериале (есть большой процент, что он появится в конце и ещё больше процентов, что это будет в сцене после титров).
@EmilD: ещё как завернули! Вообще-то, надо начать с того, что в комиксах она силы совсем не таким способом получила. А тут всё, прям как в лучших традициях Тайн Смолвиля и Флэша от CW. Главный супергерой тратит кучу времени чтобы научиться использовать свои силы, раскрывает свой потенциал буквально по миллиметру, а злодеи/второстепенные герои каким-то образом на лету схватывают и начинают наваливать главному на равных. Например, как в Человеке из стали от DC. У Моники сразу же появляется возможность включать/отключать суперзрение. Управлять своим телом так, чтобы противостать силам Ванды, а какое эффектное у неё приземление. Где-то плачет Тони Старк из первого ЖЧ. Он ведь простой белый мужик, а тут женщина, да ещё и чёрная.
"Злодейство" Агаты выглядит таким же срежиссированным, как и все остальное в Вествью. Будь она реальным главгадом, ей вряд ли дали бы собственную заставку в ситкоме :)) Скорее всего, это отвлекающий маневр.
Сцена после титров должна была быть не с псевдоРтутью. После финального "И Спарки тоже я убила" хорошо бы смотрелась сцена с Джоном Уиком, смазывающим и заряжающим свои "guns. Lots of guns"))
" I'm fine..I'm fine ..I'm fine.." вот так просыпаешься каждый день и повторяешь себе эти слова как Ванда))) Состояние 2020))) Nexus - side effects : feeling your feelings, possibly more depression))) Моника крейзи!!!в хорошем смысле, я сделаю и все и делает ! Мощная ! Ну вот и пожалуйста, все наши предположения что Агнес таки злодейка оправдались и то что она Агата тоже... Спарки убила коза.. Тизер вау!!
Каждая новая серия всё больше влюбляет в себя. И опять как на каком-то безумном аттракционе: сначала тихо, спокойно, а потом резко в пропасть. Шикарное представление Агаты, еще одна ведьмочка в кустах. Интересно будет посмотреть на их противостояние. Ну, и, собственно, на то, откуда всё это началось. Рада, что Дарси практически сразу обрела память (спасибо, Вижн!). Уж кто-кто, а Дарси точно идеально подходит на роль того, чтобы объяснить ему, что здесь происходит (на сколько это понятно в их понимании). Моника, лично для меня, была обычным персонажем, но надо отдать должное - преобразилась она эффектно. И, божечки, сцена после титров! Ааа, вот это наш Марвел!
О, настал тот момент, когда некоторые люди в комментариях пошли путём "сами придумали - сами расстроились". Дальше, я думаю, будет такого народа ещё больше.
Особенно, когда не впилят Иксов в КВМ со всей историей) Не очень понимаю, зачем многие ждут буквального их вливания, учитывая, что во вселенной Иксов 100500 противоречий, несостыковок и прочего. Мутанты - круто, ждём. Против каких-нибудь актёров старых кастов тоже ничего не имею. Вот только историю, имхо, лучше обнулить)
Не думаю, кстати, что Агата самый главный злодей, но даже если она будет главным злодеем - не расстроюсь. Она ж крутая, вы только посмотрите на неё! Тут и без Мефисто хорошо и интересно. А её личная заставка так вообще божественна, такой шарм! Кайф же)
Крч, сочувствую всем, чьи теории не оправдаются, но надеюсь, что у людей хватит логики понимать, что это не сделает сериал плохим. Мы ж сейчас смотрим, кайфуем, опять же, гляньте на Агату, ну. Огонь ж ведьмочка! Прям грустно будет, если многие начнут кричать "ПРОВАЛ, МЕФИСТО НЕ БЫЛО, ЗЛОДЕЯ СЛИЛИ, ИКСОВ НЕ ЗАПИЛИЛИ, ВСЁ ОТСТОЙ!" :(
А ещё дом Агаты выглядит вполне реальным, то есть он не часть иллюзии Ванды. Не через этот ли дом МЕЧ попробуют каким-то макаром пробраться в мир Уэствью, чтобы не впасть в состояние "герой ситкома"? Хотя, конечно, ведьминский подвал так себе подходит для вторжения)) Что ж, ждём-с продолжения.
@vampironok666: поддерживаю. Тоже после просмотра этой серии и прочтения комментариев понял, что есть некий перебор теорий, и люди разочаровываются от того, что Агнесс оказалась Агатой. а Моника получила свои силы. Логика!) Иногда даже завидую некоторым своим друзьям, которые любят Марвел, но не смотрят/не читают обзоры, разборы, теории, комменты, и для них каждый поворот - это "вау".
Так. Как и подозревалось Агата ведьма. Это понятно. Слишком активно понятно. Думаю она тут хоть и злодейка но совершенно не причем. Скорее всего почувствовала выплеск силы и пришла посмотреть а потом и поучаствовать. Ни понятно что не Ванда создатель поля. Она его только подпитала. А вот поведение Ванды можно объяснить тем что после расширения ее поля нагрузка стала чересчур большой большой и в данном состоянии для нее это перебор. Думаю именно по этому реальность "глючит". Вот интересно кто такой Пьетро на самом деле. И как он связан с Агатой. И связан ли. Думаю мы это узнаем в следующей серии. Наконец Моника получила силы. И можно было предположить что так не сработает. Ведь Монике нужно пройти через барьер без защиты. Приложить все силы и остаться собой. (обычная история). Также могу предположить что вообще все суперы будут оставаться собой там где действует поле. Релама. Нексус. ... Серьезно? Если учитывать что до этого в рекламе было то что причинило Ванде боль то можно предположить что Ванде больно и сейчас. Что логично. Также можно предположить что Вествью это вариация нексуса для киновселенной. И это Очень мощно. И я надеюсь что все именно так. Ну или близко к этому. Ну а если все таки именно Агата создала это место (Хотя сомнительно. Ведь тогда она была в городе раньше Ванды а не после как было показано) будет нормально. Интересно. Но для масштабов Марвел и тем более на 4 фазу. Слабовато. Я.. Очень надеюсь то будет сильно и неожиданно. Ведь они обещали камео.
Какой-то шок, что Агнесс — ведьма. Вижн же отключал ее от реальности Ванды, и она была совершенно нормальной, она есть в списке совершенно нормальных жителей города. Больше похоже на то, что у Ванды едет крыша и она, сама того не осознавая, создает себе брата и передает Агнесс силы, чтобы ее сериал стал поинтереснее или чтобы отвлечься от собственных проблем. Каждый раз, когда я смотрю этот сериал возникает мысль: «Что за...» и поэтому смотрю дальше
Чего-то не очень поняла Ванду в этой серии. С утра ее ребенок говорит ей, что у него "шумно" в голове тип жалуется на самочувствие, а она полностью его игнорит и потом как бы и рада сбагрить.
Разве не семью Ванда мечтала иметь больше всего на свете...Конечно, понимаю, что она "устала"типа, но все же О_О
Всегда подозревала Агнесс, я даже не удивлена, в Хэллоуин серии она капец стремная и смеется еще так...Противная брррр
А давайте обсудим, что Агата всё время упоминает мужа Ральфа. Раз теперь мы точно знаем, что Агата – ведьма, то можно предположить, что мужем ведьмы должен быть никто иной, как дьявол. У Марвел есть персонаж Мефисто, намек на которого уже увидели в трейлере Локи. Вполне может быть, что он стоит за происходящим в Вествью.
@Bojoboj: Господи, какой унылый комментарий. Можно же с нормальным подходом было более-менее продумать адекватный комментарий, рассказать свою точку зрения, а не этот никому не нужный высер. Просто убогое позорище, а не комментарий.
@Bojoboj: 3,5 часа смотреть унылую кашу... как же вы себя не любите-то О__О я, если что-то прям не нравится, бросаю серии на второй или даже первой, а вы прям страдаете, грызете кактус... damn
@Inferno2015: я не на сто процентов согласна, но мне хотелось бросить на первых сериях, однако я решила досмотреть, потому что нельзя составить полное мнение по этому сериалу, не досмотрев полный сезон. Поэтому тут не грызть кактус. Среди сериалов и фильм нередко бывает что начало кажется унылым а потом каааак разгоняется, поэтому нормально давать сериалу шанс а не бросать с порога)
Как же приятно наблюдать за игрой Кэтрин Хан (Агнес/Агата Харкнесс), она прямо наслаждается всем происходящим и выдаёт такой разнообразный спектр эмоций.
Вообще, каст подобран замечательно, за исключением, может быть, Тейоны Паррис (Рамбо), она только скалится и выдаёт иногда покерфейс.
@Juja: Рассел Ти Дэвис дал Джеку её фамилию, до этого он её уже использовал в своём сериале 1993-го года Century Falls. Больше подробностей и нет, источниками везде указаны книга про Дэвиса и интервью Барроумэна на радио, но сомневаюсь, что там есть что-то ещё, скорее всего ему просто понравилась фамилия из комиксов
Шикарная Олсен, шикарная Хан, Пол Беттани вообще душка, такой смешной в этой серии, просто слов нет, как это всё круто! Давно не испытывала таких эмоций от сериалов. А от марвел и прочих кинокомиксов, так вообще никогда. Не совсем в теме, но даже отдельно от общего контекста воспринимается отлично, оооооочень интересно и вечно в ожидании новой серии
Мне очень понравилась стилистика серии. Особенно костюмы Агаты, Ванды и Моники, которые намекают на их супергеройские способности. Отдельно нравятся интервью Вижена. И как всегда, вопросов очень много, а времени так мало.
Очень жаль, что такой отличный мув, как поехавшая алая ведьма скинули на плечи ведьме, которая манипулирует ей. Все превратилось в обычный заурядный сюжет от марвел. Заставка с Агатой порадовала, а актриса на Рамбо не умеет играть от слова совсем. Надеюсь в кинематографе мы ее больше нигде не увидим.
А никто не думал, в ключе, что Агата внезапно просто могла жить в Вествью, скрываясь в глуши, а тут - трах-бабах ВандаВижен, все дела? Но она, будучи чуть старше/мудрее/сильнее Ванды вошла в позу "так-блэт" и решила подыграть, узнать поближе, а потом проучить Ванду? И вот эта злорадствующая заставка в ее честь, может быть только бровадой - по факту-то, она ничего особо плохого не делала (ну, кроме Спарки, и то, возможно, тем самым, пытаясь узнать пределы сил Ванды - сможет ли она оживить собаку?), а просто показали, что она просто притворялась и была в курсе всего. Кто-то из врагов именно Агаты мог запустить все это безумие, возможно, в попытках выманить ее или украсть книгу, которая попала в кадр. Но в итоге им всем придется разобраться с этим бардаком, а Агата станет для Ванды наставницей, как Хэнк Пим для Скотта Лэнга.
Меня уж сильно в этом смысле заинтересовало внезапное наличие сцены после титров, которая просто сбивает центр внимания с раскрытия личности Агаты, на внезапный врыв в кадр "Пьетро". По типу, двухэтапного скримера - вам только показалось, что в кустах кто-то прячется, а то была лишь белка, и тут на вас со спины выскакивает волк!
Мне кажется что не всё так просто как показали... Опять вводят в заблуждение 100% очень интересно что с детками( показалось что они в телевизоре, но может совпадение) ... Агата конечно удивила прям не могу. Так нравилась эта милая женщина сначала( и с Пьетро очень мутно всё ( не верю что он злодей). в общем будем ждать
А где все?.. Ну ладно можно было понять, когда поначалу происходящее вообще было не особо заметно извне, а также на первых порах изучения наспех сколоченной командой. Но теперь-то, когда посреди страны явным образом вспух гигантский многокилометровый красный пузырь с чертовщиной внутри - где, ну я не знаю, армия, супергерои? Почему всё по-прежнему выглядит междусобойчиком на природе и ограничено каким-то палаточным лагерем Меча с десятью калеками? Там не должны уже быть стянуты войска и всё взято в три кольца обороны по всему периметру с кружащими на всякий случай сверху ядерными бомбардировщиками? Это что, все ресурсы, которые имелись у хвалёного Меча? А всем остальным вообще по барабану? Всё очевидно приходится списать на полный бардак и упадок после событий Финала? И где в конце концов Стрэндж? Ну ладно, где он, увидим в следующем году. Очевидно витает в мультивселеннной безумия. У него там в прошлом году Моргана ле Фэй хотела мир захватить, а ему всё фиолетово. ;)
Под конец с Дарси и Виженом началось уже натуральное Шоу Трумэна. :) Я всё ждал, будут ли лесные пожары и авария на атомной электростанции. ;) А в самом конце прямо фильмами ужасов повеяло...
P.S. И я продолжаю очень надеяться, что Пьетро это всё-таки Пьетро в том или ином виде, а не какое-то там колдовство или загримированный злодей. Иначе получается, что его внешность ничего не значит, тупо фансервис, Аарона Тейлора-Джонсона не смогли достать и решили приколоться, типа какая разница, если у нас тут всё не настоящее... :( Хочется всё-таки верить, что это осознанные завязки на мультивселенную.
Порадовали отсылки к Modern Family, хоть их было и не так много:
Ванда в роли работящей леди-босс Клэр;
Дарси (особенно в момент интервью) - вылитая нёрд-Алекс по внешнему образу и поведению (актриса прям старалась точно спародировать её фирменный сарказм с разведением руками и характерной интонацией);
Агнес/Агата - к удивлению, Кэм (интонации, фразочки вроде "abs-positively!");
Вижн мог бы сойти за Фила, но схожести особо не заметил, кроме манеры сидеть на интервью, скрестив ноги, и некоторых интонаций.
неожиданно сильно полюбила этот сериал, но серия в стиле офиса - это точное попадание прямо в моё впечатлительное сердечко!! было очень забавно и весело, но одновременно как-то тоскливо. Элизабет Олсен прекрасная актриса, просто умничка! еще очень хочу сказать, что Дарси лапуля, а можно как-то выдвинуть сцену с побегом из цирка на оскар или типа "ор выше гор 2021"??? "прости, нас наняли два цирка" короче класс, мне так всё нравится что аж захотелось поделиться
Whoa Агнес действительно оказалась непроста. Но я не читала комиксы. Знаю только, что, по легенде, капитана Джека Харкнесса в честь неё назвали. Потому что они оба бессмертны. Но как хорошо она играла свою роль! All along.
А я все надеялась, что хотя бы мельком покажут кого-нибудь из Агентов Щ.И.Т.а! Но ладно. Депрессия Ванды и серия в стиле реалити шоу сотворили очередную топ серию. Не могу перестать восхищаться всем этим. Актеры, сценарий, съёмка, костюмы, аааа! Просто супер.
И да, так и думала, что Агата тут замешана. Интересное появление сил у Моники!
Боже, это же «Офис»! Сначала подумалось, что modern family (диван, полосатая подушка), но в опенинге музыка все расставила по местам. Азиатского Джима тут зовут Джимми, кстати)
блин, понимаю, что все предыдущие серии были отсылками к популярных ситкомам разных десятилетий, но лишь в этой серии стиль сериала, который я смотрела и люблю всем сердцем «Американская семейка»💕 начало серии смотрю с улыбкой на лице
On the one hand, because of the late viewing, I was familiar with the memes "It's all Agatha", on the other - I hoped that maybe it's not everything and that it's someone else. Especially after her conversation with Vision in the previous episode. =D
Вот это поворот 😮 встретились ученица и учительница!! Агата много чего сотворила..развязка близка, невероятная сюжета, серия держала в напряжении, комичности практически не осталось,шум сходит и на первый план выходит мощь блокстеров)))
О, вот и новая Капитан Марвел (или кем она там станет). И если честно, мне Моника больше нравится в этой ипостаси, чем Кэрол.
Очень ору с роли Дарси в Гексе. "Хотела быть бородатой женщиной, но бледная кожа подвела" аххахахаххахаххаах умираю! А этот подкат Вижна, ваще ни разу не маньячный XD Шикарная из них роад-парочка вышла, и классно, что именно она ему всю предысторию раскрыла.
Ну и конечно "что я тут с вами забыл, жинка там с ума сходит" сто Офисов из ста. Мы тоже не понимает, что ты такое, дружок, мы тоже.
"Я ваша мама. Вы думаете у меня есть ответы на все вопросы? Это не так." Депрессия Ванды это такая жиза, что очень, даже слишком достоверно. Плюс ещё одна фаза проживания горя, отлично они по ним проходятся уже какую серию.
Переживаю за пацанов немного, но уверена, всё будет ок. Непонятно только, тоже ли они выдумка Ванды, или реальные дети из этого города?
Так вскрылось всё про Агату/Агнесс красиво за две серии до конца, и чет мне кажется, не так всё просто окажется в итоге, слишком легко они выбросили этот козырь, и так все с первой серии догадывались. Хотя, с другой стороны, Кэтрин Хан так прекрасна в этом своем водевиле из буффонады, что я согласна и на такой простой ответ, что главная злодейка истории она, слишком хороша чертовка.
Сцена после титров! Что за орео, что за прекрасный Питерс. Честно, приму любое уже объяснение, кто он, просто дайте его и побольше.
какой же потрясающий сериал. очень нравится новый формат ситкома со всеми этими интервью, а-ля офис. шутки всё так же на высоте, несмотря на общую драматичную атмосферу. агата восхитительна, как и её интро.
Такое ощущение, что комментаторов тоже взяли в заложники в такой вот город, и они внутри страдают, но вынуждены улыбаться во все 32, пищать от радости и строчить восторженные комментарии))) Ну, ничего, вроде, после 3 серии, но по большей части скукотища ведь... Экшена почти нет, разве это Марвел? Сокол с Зимним Солдатом да Локи на порядок круче получились
@Annie10792: Марвел собирались экспериментировать с жанрами в 4й фазе, поэтому не планировали сводить все свои проекты к тому, что было ранее. Потому что проверенные схемы, конечно, пока всё ещё работают, но нужно искать новые варианты развития событий) Поэтому да, это Марвел. Но, конечно, он не всем будет по вкусу)
@Grenada: Я влюбилась 😍 Смотрю с ней третий сериал подряд.. она везде немного безумная. Обожаю безумных женщин) До 14 лет, я была влюблена в её сестёр, и даже не подозревала, что в семье они не самые талантливые😅
Офииис ! 🥹 могу ошибаться, но момент с ‘и вообще, что я тут с вами делаю, пойду-ка к своей жене’ прям полностью взят оттуда. это очень мило 🥹 Ванда в образе уставшей мамы – топ 🤣 и этот её разговор с близнецами у дивана ! я Агнесс не подозревала только из-за разговора с Вижном, но, как оказалось, она и тут легко и просто вокруг пальца обвела, чертовка.
Discussion of the 7 episode of the 1 season Discuss this episode
336Listen, have you ever wondered what kind of bar Vandavision set?
Look, we have (in my opinion) the standard of action and epicness - "Infinity War" and/ or "Finale". But now, in fact, Marvel is closing (I hope that by the end of the series it will not merge) another burden - the topic of relationships and "finding your self". Here we have a husband / wife (a sharp deterioration in the relationship), a reaction after the death of a loved one, partially children (although this component is weaker). They also show us how a person goes crazy/ how they drive him crazy.
I'm not talking about jokes and phrases with double meanings. And I'm not so sure that in this area it will be possible to compete with this series. And yes, there are a number of reasons:
- the series is released only once a week, and as much as I do not complain that it takes a whole week, this is the best format. If the series had been released in its entirety, then we would not have had an intrigue, and we would have stumbled upon spoilers within a couple of hours after the release. Right there for a while (Friday-Saturday in my case) after the episode, we think, "Wow, that's great. What will happen next? And what did this advertisement mean? What does it all mean?" And since Thursday, I've been like, "Well, it's okay, there's not much left...To be patient a little bit." Imagine that it would be a movie. Well, the maximum duration is 3 hours (although 2 for this genre is the ceiling in cinemas). 3 trailers. A couple of days after them, the Internet would buzz and that's it, but there would be no opportunity to reveal all the subtleties of the emotional state of the hero.
I've always liked the Scarlet Witch and Vision in the film universe, so the series is the best field for them, since they are either too strong for films, or the format could become repulsively unexpected for some (for example, for children). Yes, and the actors revealed themselves: Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany...You can see everything for yourself. The whole palette of emotions: drama, madness, comedy, fear, despair, and bewilderment...
There is probably only one character that I did not enjoy 100% at first. This is Monica. We had to get into her, and in the Marvel cinematic universe it's difficult to do this when familiar characters are at every step (oh, look they're in canonical costumes, oh, look card trick, oh, look she became a doctor ...). Episode 7 is the first episode. in which Monica became much more interesting to me, although we cannot deny that the character lacks a backstory and some kind of personality. "I will go to the end for my righteousness. I'll risk my life because I believe in people." Hmmm...Steve Rogers was like that. But there is a big difference - we saw why and how he was awarded the power, we knew that he could fall all day and then get up, we saw that he sometimes makes not the best decisions, we saw that he can be funny and funny, we saw him, we believed him, because they were with him almost always. With Captain Rambo, we are just starting to go through this path. I hope that it will not become as epic and pretentious as...Well, you get it. Even if it becomes, but give it flaws and features. For example, Agnes is an extremely interesting character, because we have not seen such a thing yet. In addition, her character showed that she can make jokes or quip, that she is far from stupid, she can even sing. It's a pleasure to watch her.
But, honestly, BB has no one to compete with yet (except with the Mandalorian, but there the plot is straighter than the ruler): the budget here can be shoveled, the actors came from films, the plot is considered the canon of KVM, plus it is not stretched into thirteen 50-minute episodes. At the moment, this is a very good start for the serial part of KVM, and in 5 years we will see what kind of trace it will leave.
We sit until the end)
P.S. after "digital" - if you understand what I mean)
We are finally approaching the finale, and if the remaining episodes are not an hour +, I am not responsible for myself!! (Darcy is fine, she looked at all the episodes in a week, not like us. We are satisfied with 30 minutes once a week)
We were pleased with the interviews in this episode, especially the Vision)
I think we all guessed that Agnes is a villain, but to give her her own awesome screensaver... WOW!
I wasn't the most ardent fan of Monica's line when there is Wanda and Vision, but the work that was done is impressive. And the visual, and the meaning, even the music at the moment of passing the barrier! Everything is on top. When she got the strength, I even got goosebumps a little bit.
But the total duration of 30 minutes is killing me
⠀It is more logical to see references to "Modern Family", because:
⠀1) this series mostly falls on the 2010s, the turn of which has come;
2) It was broadcast on ABC, a TV channel owned by the Disney Company, as well as Marvel Studios.
⠀ While "The Office" (US) aired on the American NBC and dates back to the 2000s era
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Monica looks really cool!
– ...
– I actually did bite a kid once
«The Office» vibes cheeeeck 😍😍😍
I wonder now what Agatha wants from her and what kind of book it is.
Office style, Wanda's depression, 2 awesome screensavers in one episode. Monica finally got her powers and became a Photon, I think later she will be a minor person and look into visiting others.
Agnes' disclosure was predictable, but her separate intro and Pietro were dragged in at the end. Apparently, it's still Mephisto, it's even a pity, since most of it has already been predicted by the fans and so far there has been only one shocking twist. I will miss the sitcom series, as they have already come very close to modernity + in the remaining 2 episodes they will answer all questions. I wonder how this will end for the whole Vision family, since it will be pointless to kill him 3 times. Children are likely to appear in reality and in a couple of years will be part of the Young Avengers.
Most of all, Wanda's fate is of interest, but she has yet to appear in 2 Strange. I am glad that this character was given full disclosure, I have been waiting for this since the age of 15
So it's kind of normal, kmk
I think that's why they were divided into different series. The Falcon and the Soldier are in one, Loki is in the other, Thor has his soloists, the spider has his own.
When I read Wikipedia, I wonder HOW MANY characters there really are in comics. heroes, villains, heroes who became villains and vice versa. Teams in which one or another hero participated, and there are also restarts, crossovers, alternative universes, etc., etc., etc.)))
well, in general, yes, for example, on the contrary, I am happy that new faces are appearing.
Well, Monica was rewritten on a molecular basis (as Darcy said) and got her abilities. I wonder if she'll keep them, or if they'll only act throughout the series.
Darcy is gorgeous. She shone here and in her role in the sitcom, albeit a little, well, as Darcy, respectively. Why didn't Vision just take off and fly home with Darcy? They were driving a car.
And "Pietro" means also in league with Agatha. I wonder who he really is.
And about the engineer, they had been intrigued for so long, they talked in interviews, but it turned out that this was some kind of unknown woman. Maybe I don't know anything, of course, but I don't know her :)
Agatha killed the dog. :(
How do they manage to raise the bar with each episode.
It's a pity that there are 2 episodes left (
Don't miss the scene after the credits.
Evan Peters manages to flash x in 4 seconds)
I was afraid until the last moment that we would not see him again. I had very little of him in the X-Men, I would like both him and Magneto to stay on the screen longer (
The theories were confirmed, but I did not expect Agatha to get her screensaver. It was a cool and funny move.
I laughed at how Wanda did not let Vision get home x) And as it dawned on him: "Why am I even sitting here with you and chatting? I have to go home to my wife!"
I hope the twins will be all right. The boys are very charismatic and interesting as characters. I wish they had stayed longer.
But the 30-minute format is killing me. I just yawned and the episode ended. This is no longer possible(
I think that the main line on which we wanted to focus our attention is failing. And at first I thought that Wanda had simply overestimated her strength and could not control everything, but only her house was malfunctioning, and people on the outskirts had come to life. In this episode, Mommy was drinking pills and behaving strangely, it feels like she's going crazy.Her smile in conversation with Monica...Have we been introduced to a new potential villain?But someone had specially trained Wanda for all this.
What if the broadcast was created specifically to set the world against the heroine, and when SWORD, after expanding the field, finally decided that Wanda was the cause of all the troubles, then the meaning of the broadcast disappeared. Or is there a bigger player here than an ordinary witch?
Now I'll tell you about the negligent hubby. Why didn't he just fly with Darcy right away?But Darcy is every one of us: "I would like to be a part of the series."There is also a retelling from Darcy (did you still want Luce to do it?).SHIIIIK.
And yes, someone didn't want Vision to get there.But why is it immediately Wanda?Isn't it more logical to put Pietro in this role, whom he has already received once because of a man with an (almost) invulnerable (almost) head.
Thanks to the creators for the excellent and elaborate backstory of the new Captain Marvel/Photon.What a great visual, I was directly struck by the passage through the barrier and how we were shown the abilities. And it's great that Monica thought to look at others when she met Wanda. I'm already like, "Come on, come on, come on."
And then Agnes appears on the scene, pam-pam-pam-pam... And if you think that she decided on her own that it was time to open up, then I'm not sure about that. Tommy "did not hear" anything inside Agnes, although he heard the thoughts of others (noise). Here it is time to act and take away Wanda's forces to control the Darkhold (hello, Agents of the SHIELD).But I think that Agnes is the tip of the iceberg, a certain Ralph will still cause problems.
P.S.
Listen, what did Hayward launch there?
P.S. God forbid if the last two episodes are short.
crazy thought: Guardians?)
In this case, they (the guardians) will hunt for the energy of Wanda, which in the future will cause the appearance of mutants!!! That is, the mutants themselves...
How can Darcy know that Wanda killed Vision, and Thanos turned back time and killed him himself? If Thanos returned the time, then no one should know about what was in the "canceled" version, right? The mistake of the authors who wanted to add humor to the scene?
Apparently, after all, Agatha needs an adult Tommy and Billy, but why...
what about Pietro? Agatha knows how to raise the dead, or she just made the left guy play the role of Mercury.
Monica finally got the power, the first mutant created by Wanda. * about*
Wanda, apparently, will still be the villain for the last series, or Agatha showed her how she manipulated her with magic.
It's good that Dottie was not forgotten and was shown, like for the first time, in color.
The artifact of Agnes, maybe with the help of Wanda and him, she will summon Mephisto and exchange the children for more powers.
You don't have to believe everything that was shown in the series.
Through this screensaver, they just want to convince that Agatha is doing everything. But that's only if you look through the prism of this show (Wanda's illusions)
Nexus...
I have 2 interpretations:
1)https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Nexus_of_All_Realities
Nexus is a bridge between parallel realities. And the advertisement says, "Choose the reality that you like." And we know that the era of the multiverse is coming. And yes, it sounds logical. Ask the Doctor. And there are two contenders at once. Dr. Strange and Dr. Selvig, who in Torah 2 mentioned the bridge between the worlds. And again everything is fine, but there is BUT 2)
2)https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Nexus_Beings
Nexus refers to incredibly strong personalities who are actually the "cornerstones of the universe." They can literally manage time (and we have already seen that for twins, age is a convention). Do you know who the Nexus were in the comics? That's right, the children of the Scarlet Witch, who are so successfully controlled by Agnes.
But somehow I doubt that Agatha can control the children. In a conversation on the couch, one of the twins clearly stupefied her with his abilities. As far as I understood, he unintentionally reads other people's thoughts, and her thoughts have a barrier, so he was pleased that he was quiet around her. And she realized that if he wanted to, he could easily break through the barrier.
[we must be allowed to blink when viewing vandavision without skipping small details]
Now, to the rest. The main question is, who is interviewing people? Of course, they showed us Agatha, but THE VOICE is NOT HERS. And the voice is familiar. I would even say, maybe it's the voice of Vision?
It's a pity that the engineer was leaked. Or maybe they haven't leaked it yet, and we'll find out who it was in the next episodes. After all, there has to be another big cameo.
Agatha was seriously scared of the twins when she was told that she was quiet inside. And turned them into rabbits? :)
Somewhere I heard that the last three episodes will be an hour long, but again 34 minutes. This is some kind of mockery!!!
And we discuss and try to guess. Each phrase may turn out to be a hint. And every new person can turn out to be someone's cameo (and after 2*8 Mandalorians, this cameo can turn out to be mind-blowing). By the way, there could be a lot of options here - Reed Richards, Beiste. Yes, the same Shuri (although no, Monica is not familiar with Shuri). Moreover, it felt as if the role of this engineer had been specially emphasized several times. But apparently not, it was a false deception.
P.S. Darcy is a goddess!!!
feigi who has long said that actors like McAvoy Fassbender and others, if they return to roles, then they will not be the same characters
in the X-Men film universe there is too much confusion and inconsistencies that no one will pull by the ears to kvm
It didn't disappoint much how Monica got the abilities. From a visual point of view, there are no questions, everything is beautiful, colorful, cool music, but from the point of view of the plot, it was possible to make some more interesting twist. And it so happened that Monica came in, came out, and she already has abilities. But despite this, Monica's abilities themselves showed very cool, especially I liked how she sees energy.
And the moment with the engineer is kind of strange. Two episodes kept the intrigue of who was there, and in the end it turned out to be just a woman who worked with her mother.
It's finally been revealed that Agnes is Agatha Harkness! I've been waiting for this for a long time. This is her dungeon with something, very creepy. I hope I didn't eat the twins. I would like to know what her role is in the current events. And where is her husband, whom she talks about all the time.
Hopefully in the next episode Darcy and Vision will get to Wanda's house, and Monica will be able to save Wanda from Agatha.
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⠀Went in, went out and went back in. It is important!
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⠀ And then there 's more:
⠀⠀— Try turning it off and on again. (c) "The IT Crowd", and indeed any technical support service.
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And yes, I'm sure Wanda knew perfectly well that Vision was fine.
and I think it would be very stupid to eat such powerful guys.
It is wiser to win them over to your side and use their powers.
Well, or take him prisoner to blackmail his parents.
I think the boys have become teletubbies on TV
And Peters was criminally short!
Homage to the Office offset!
It is interesting that she has strength, she has increased the barrier, but it seems that she was confused and very tired. So much so that he can't think about anything. I forgot about Vision, about my brother too. Even the twins seemed to have forgotten that just yesterday they had to save their father.
They introduced Agatha, and since I don't know the character, I can't figure out if she's good or not. Judging by what I read, Agatha helped Wanda and was a kind of mentor in magic. Let's see what the series shows, but her dungeon is, of course, gloomy and not at all friendly.
It's good that there was more Vision, he's also a fan of talking on camera.
With Vision, "Pietro" could speak, which could also prevent him from getting to Wanda, but with Agatha, the options are more difficult and more interesting. x)
And yes, I felt such joy when I watched the credits for the 7th time and finally they gave the hddd scene
is pure delight!
evil has never looked so good!
Seeing with a buttonhole is just touching X)
1. Agatha was doing something to Pietro with her purple magic from behind the bushes in the scene when he went to Wanda's house at the end of the fifth episode (hence Pietro!= Mephisto, since he needs extra magic to visit his sister)
2. The series should eventually lead us to the "Multiverse of Madness", which means that we will talk about the multiverse in one form or another
3. This Pietro somehow still has memories of his childhood with Wanda, but slightly different
4. Pietro, like Agnes, is very good at communicating with children, and Wanda is very surprised by this
I bet a mug of beer that Pietro was eventually found by Agatha in the vastness of the multiverse, Peter from the X-men, whom she nevertheless hypnotized.
It seems that Agatha wants to do something powerful (like summoning Mephisto or opening a gap in the universe, which will then be raked by Strange, Wanda and Ludina-pavuk), but her own abilities are not enough for this and she wants to arrange a big release of Wanda's magic to fuel herself. She acts like she's stronger than Wanda, but for some reason she can't do it without Wanda.
However, I really can't believe that the entire team of X-men from Fox will come to us, because even if Marvel + Sony can bring the two previous incarnations of spiders, firstly, something like genetic mutations (Monica with her new abilities) has already been shown to the world, and secondly, a complete To drag the cast of the Fox universe into Marvel and pull the Fox universe by the ears will be sooooo difficult.
There is also a catch here, since the existence of mutants is also a difficult thing for the cinematic universe. Each of the X team has a very, very long story, which can no longer be written into the well-established timeline of the KVM. For example, you can't just take out Wolverine, who was already born a mutant in the 1800s and lived to the present, went through "weapon X" and so on. So most likely Wanda will not directly create all the mutants on the planet. Most likely, several events will happen at once in the end
1) A gap in the multiverse will open, through which our favorite mutants can penetrate (not exactly fox ones, rather some similar guys with their stories that we haven't seen yet)
2) The bubble will expand to the entire planet and generate new mutants who will be able to become pupils for Xavier who has arrived to us
3) Doctor Strange will arrive, tie up Agatha, calm down Wanda and go with her to fix what he has done
If you take mutants from a non-fox universe, it seems to me that fans will be very disappointed, because in fact these are not the same characters that they knew, they will need to re-write the story from the very beginning so that it can be considered canon.
Point number two is the most realistic. By extending the barrier to the entire planet, she will either make new mutants or "awaken" them.
I don't hope for Xavier, because we are somewhere in Logan's time. Now in the series 2023, Logan takes place in 2029.
Well, about Strange, yes. The situation cannot be resolved without him. At least he will definitely deal with the consequences after the collapse of the dome.
"Maybe I am the villain.
😢💔
Wanda avoids Vision because she is afraid to face him now that he knows the truth about his backstory. In the previous episode, they already had understandable conflict situations, she doesn't want to now (and then too) to sort things out and so on, Wanda u s t a l a. But she'll have to.
Gemini is funny, but the advertisement is even bigger, there are many options with its interpretation, one is cooler than the other.
Although it was clear that Monica would gain strength, but despite the beauty of the visual, somehow I did not have enough emotional attachment to feel this moment with her more deeply, the new heroine is just good. But the scene with her and Wanda near the house was amazing, and I also really liked her renewed vision. Carol is constantly being teased, I can't wait to be told about the case.
Darcy and Vision are the best, especially sweetly annealed Vision with his "what am I doing here with you, what an absurdity, I need to go to my wife" :D It's a pity that Darcy is not dressed in a waitress uniform, heh, the suit is also cute.
All the actresses and actors are wonderful, Lizzie is gorgeous, I'm very happy for Paul, it's clear that he's high.
• A mockumentary-style general plan and an Office-style screensaver
• Comedy truck driving by Darcy and Vision
• Monica broke through and became a superhero
• Agnes/Agatha, as expected, still effectively told about her villainy (this witch screensaver is just a top!)
• well, Wanda, who is trying to figure out why everything is falling apart
The next episode would be soon 🔥
Secondly, I couldn't handle the office (
But the interview scenes are really more like an American Family.
And in previous episodes there were references not just to one series, but to an era/decade in general.
Quicksilver (if it's him after all) will be freed from control and there will be a scene with slomo under the music, as in X-Men
I have to watch the series a second time to notice something besides it)))
However, the screensaver with Agatha is fire! No wonder she has such a witchy laugh from the first episode eh
I also doubt very much that Pietro is plucked from another reality and/or hypnotized. Either purely the creation of Agatha, or some kind of her henchman, depending on what level of power she has. At the very least, the corpse is a puppet, but that would be too much trouble for her. Wanda's fast brother, who died heroically in Sokovia, is most likely known to the public, and a copy can be created. The character and manners are not accurate, Wanda has no memories of her childhood, because this is fiction. And he explained the change of face himself by saying that it was related to the injury. It was Peters in this role who was purely a joke for fans, he already played the character coolly, why not take him again?
The character contributed 0 impact to the plot, even Darcy (a minor character) contributed more than Monica. If you cut out all the scenes with Monica, then the plot will not lose its integrity. It took about 50% of the timekeeping of this series and the bitch did literally nothing, and meanwhile, there are only 2 episodes left
RJ: Good morning, Westviewians. Thanks for tuning in to W.N.D.A. Not a thing weighing heavily on your conscience. I hope your little ghosts arrived home safe last night. It's always such a treat to see those creepy kiddos out and about once a year. Later on, we'll hear some tips on how to resist the temptation of all that leftover candy. Or just eat it all?
Куда делись мальчики?
Ну, это точно Агата - тут о ней теории с самого начала были.
Спасибо, что Вижн таки живой, но можно его как-то побольше?
Дарси слишком мало была в образе)) а жаль - она ж так любила сериал)
почему опять по 30 мин серии? Когда там обещанное увеличение будет?
Агнесс ожидаемо должна была стать злодейкой, но что-то мне подсказывает, что не всё так просто. Чтобы это узнать, я с нетерпением жду 8 и 9 серию, так как, там должен начаться капец!
Интересно куда пропали близнецы, либо же они правда играли на улице, а Агата просто заманила Ванду в подвал. Сцена с подвалом, кстати, весьма жуткая была.
Моника радует! Её превращение очень красиво сделано, надеюсь, что она сможет помочь Ванде.
Пьетро до сих пор под вопросом, хотя он появляется в сцене после титров, непонятно кто он такой.
Отдельная заставка посвящённая Агате 😰 Жутковато немного было, но сделано круто.
Вижн и Дарси лучшие! 🤣 Как они ехали до Вествью, что-то с чем-то. Вижна жалко, он абсолютно ничего не понимает, хотя и очень любит Ванду.
Серия зачёт, в общем. Ждём дальше.
(А, и моменты с ломанием четвёртой стены 👏🏻, Олсен богиня)
Мне нравится это чувство каждую пятницу, как будто ты посмотрел отдельную часть супергеройского фильма.
- Однажды я укусила ребенка.
- Попробуйте сами сказать десятилеткам, что их мама кукухой поехала.
Эти вставки с разговорами, особенно с Агнес, просто шедевр! 😂
Как же Монике идет этот новый светящийся цвет глаз ❤
Вот так концовка, не знаю как остальным, но мне прям очень зашла Агнес/Агата (хотя песика я ей не прощу!).
С нетерпением жду следующую пятницу!
Козел в подвале - Мефисто в итоге увидим? Где Стрендж?
(по ссылке скрин из серии)
https://sun9-61.userapi.com/impg/y7v2cEey9CaNEREzOZ_wwQOwNL6we-IFU9GJzg/OB1QwOD_MlI.jpg?size=1920x1006&quality=96&proxy=1&sign=df02be3ad1173a58fc5cb41d48f9da23&type=album
Ну сценаристы завернули, особенно с Моникой. Хотя, всё как раз в духе времени. Супер героиня раз, чёрная супер героиня два, супер злодейка три. Вижн как-то меркнет на их фоне, пока что.
Вот мой предикшин на финал - Вижн, с помощью любви (ну и куда же без помощи Моники) растопит чары Агаты и Ванда, выйдя из под контроля разума, накостыляет всем злодеям. Конец.
Стрэндж не тянет на камео совсем, особенно сейчас его появление уже точно не будет удивительным. Это не означает, что он не появится в сериале (есть большой процент, что он появится в конце и ещё больше процентов, что это будет в сцене после титров).
У Моники сразу же появляется возможность включать/отключать суперзрение. Управлять своим телом так, чтобы противостать силам Ванды, а какое эффектное у неё приземление. Где-то плачет Тони Старк из первого ЖЧ. Он ведь простой белый мужик, а тут женщина, да ещё и чёрная.
> У Моники сразу же появляется возможность включать/отключать суперзрение.
Не помню такого в серии
После финального "И Спарки тоже я убила" хорошо бы смотрелась сцена с Джоном Уиком, смазывающим и заряжающим свои "guns. Lots of guns"))
Состояние 2020)))
Nexus - side effects : feeling your feelings, possibly more depression)))
Моника крейзи!!!в хорошем смысле, я сделаю и все и делает ! Мощная !
Ну вот и пожалуйста, все наши предположения что Агнес таки злодейка оправдались и то что она Агата тоже...
Спарки убила коза..
Тизер вау!!
Шикарное представление Агаты, еще одна ведьмочка в кустах. Интересно будет посмотреть на их противостояние. Ну, и, собственно, на то, откуда всё это началось.
Рада, что Дарси практически сразу обрела память (спасибо, Вижн!). Уж кто-кто, а Дарси точно идеально подходит на роль того, чтобы объяснить ему, что здесь происходит (на сколько это понятно в их понимании).
Моника, лично для меня, была обычным персонажем, но надо отдать должное - преобразилась она эффектно.
И, божечки, сцена после титров! Ааа, вот это наш Марвел!
Особенно, когда не впилят Иксов в КВМ со всей историей) Не очень понимаю, зачем многие ждут буквального их вливания, учитывая, что во вселенной Иксов 100500 противоречий, несостыковок и прочего. Мутанты - круто, ждём. Против каких-нибудь актёров старых кастов тоже ничего не имею. Вот только историю, имхо, лучше обнулить)
Не думаю, кстати, что Агата самый главный злодей, но даже если она будет главным злодеем - не расстроюсь. Она ж крутая, вы только посмотрите на неё! Тут и без Мефисто хорошо и интересно. А её личная заставка так вообще божественна, такой шарм! Кайф же)
Крч, сочувствую всем, чьи теории не оправдаются, но надеюсь, что у людей хватит логики понимать, что это не сделает сериал плохим. Мы ж сейчас смотрим, кайфуем, опять же, гляньте на Агату, ну. Огонь ж ведьмочка! Прям грустно будет, если многие начнут кричать "ПРОВАЛ, МЕФИСТО НЕ БЫЛО, ЗЛОДЕЯ СЛИЛИ, ИКСОВ НЕ ЗАПИЛИЛИ, ВСЁ ОТСТОЙ!" :(
А ещё дом Агаты выглядит вполне реальным, то есть он не часть иллюзии Ванды. Не через этот ли дом МЕЧ попробуют каким-то макаром пробраться в мир Уэствью, чтобы не впасть в состояние "герой ситкома"? Хотя, конечно, ведьминский подвал так себе подходит для вторжения)) Что ж, ждём-с продолжения.
Иногда даже завидую некоторым своим друзьям, которые любят Марвел, но не смотрят/не читают обзоры, разборы, теории, комменты, и для них каждый поворот - это "вау".
Вижн такое солнышко 🥺🥺
Вот интересно кто такой Пьетро на самом деле. И как он связан с Агатой. И связан ли. Думаю мы это узнаем в следующей серии.
Наконец Моника получила силы. И можно было предположить что так не сработает. Ведь Монике нужно пройти через барьер без защиты. Приложить все силы и остаться собой. (обычная история). Также могу предположить что вообще все суперы будут оставаться собой там где действует поле.
Релама. Нексус. ... Серьезно? Если учитывать что до этого в рекламе было то что причинило Ванде боль то можно предположить что Ванде больно и сейчас. Что логично. Также можно предположить что Вествью это вариация нексуса для киновселенной. И это Очень мощно. И я надеюсь что все именно так. Ну или близко к этому.
Ну а если все таки именно Агата создала это место (Хотя сомнительно. Ведь тогда она была в городе раньше Ванды а не после как было показано) будет нормально. Интересно. Но для масштабов Марвел и тем более на 4 фазу. Слабовато.
Я.. Очень надеюсь то будет сильно и неожиданно. Ведь они обещали камео.
Больше похоже на то, что у Ванды едет крыша и она, сама того не осознавая, создает себе брата и передает Агнесс силы, чтобы ее сериал стал поинтереснее или чтобы отвлечься от собственных проблем.
Каждый раз, когда я смотрю этот сериал возникает мысль: «Что за...» и поэтому смотрю дальше
И смотреть глазами рекомендуется
У Марвел вроде не так все сложно с сюжетами
Разве не семью Ванда мечтала иметь больше всего на свете...Конечно, понимаю, что она "устала"типа, но все же О_О
Всегда подозревала Агнесс, я даже не удивлена, в Хэллоуин серии она капец стремная и смеется еще так...Противная брррр
Раз теперь мы точно знаем, что Агата – ведьма, то можно предположить, что мужем ведьмы должен быть никто иной, как дьявол. У Марвел есть персонаж Мефисто, намек на которого уже увидели в трейлере Локи. Вполне может быть, что он стоит за происходящим в Вествью.
Вообще, каст подобран замечательно, за исключением, может быть, Тейоны Паррис (Рамбо), она только скалится и выдаёт иногда покерфейс.
п.с. если что, я понимаю о каком Харкнессе идет речь)
Ну, и страшно интересно что сделали с детьми Ванды.
Наверное, могучая тройка - Вижен, Дарси и Моника будут всех спасать, хотя насчёт последней я не особо уверенна 🤣
Чувствую себя дурой, но все равно надеюсь, что Пьетро/Питер окажется персонажем положительным.
Меня уж сильно в этом смысле заинтересовало внезапное наличие сцены после титров, которая просто сбивает центр внимания с раскрытия личности Агаты, на внезапный врыв в кадр "Пьетро". По типу, двухэтапного скримера - вам только показалось, что в кустах кто-то прячется, а то была лишь белка, и тут на вас со спины выскакивает волк!
Я в порядке
Я в порядке
Под конец с Дарси и Виженом началось уже натуральное Шоу Трумэна. :) Я всё ждал, будут ли лесные пожары и авария на атомной электростанции. ;) А в самом конце прямо фильмами ужасов повеяло...
P.S. И я продолжаю очень надеяться, что Пьетро это всё-таки Пьетро в том или ином виде, а не какое-то там колдовство или загримированный злодей. Иначе получается, что его внешность ничего не значит, тупо фансервис, Аарона Тейлора-Джонсона не смогли достать и решили приколоться, типа какая разница, если у нас тут всё не настоящее... :( Хочется всё-таки верить, что это осознанные завязки на мультивселенную.
Ванда в роли работящей леди-босс Клэр;
Дарси (особенно в момент интервью) - вылитая нёрд-Алекс по внешнему образу и поведению (актриса прям старалась точно спародировать её фирменный сарказм с разведением руками и характерной интонацией);
Агнес/Агата - к удивлению, Кэм (интонации, фразочки вроде "abs-positively!");
Вижн мог бы сойти за Фила, но схожести особо не заметил, кроме манеры сидеть на интервью, скрестив ноги, и некоторых интонаций.
было очень забавно и весело, но одновременно как-то тоскливо. Элизабет Олсен прекрасная актриса, просто умничка!
еще очень хочу сказать, что Дарси лапуля, а можно как-то выдвинуть сцену с побегом из цирка на оскар или типа "ор выше гор 2021"???
"прости, нас наняли два цирка"
короче класс, мне так всё нравится что аж захотелось поделиться
Агнес действительно оказалась непроста.
Но я не читала комиксы. Знаю только, что, по легенде, капитана Джека Харкнесса в честь неё назвали. Потому что они оба бессмертны.
Но как хорошо она играла свою роль! All along.
Депрессия Ванды и серия в стиле реалити шоу сотворили очередную топ серию. Не могу перестать восхищаться всем этим. Актеры, сценарий, съёмка, костюмы, аааа! Просто супер.
И да, так и думала, что Агата тут замешана. Интересное появление сил у Моники!
Поворот оч крутой
«Американская семейка»💕 начало серии смотрю с улыбкой на лице
Дарси прекрасна))
Очень ору с роли Дарси в Гексе. "Хотела быть бородатой женщиной, но бледная кожа подвела" аххахахаххахаххаах умираю! А этот подкат Вижна, ваще ни разу не маньячный XD Шикарная из них роад-парочка вышла, и классно, что именно она ему всю предысторию раскрыла.
Ну и конечно "что я тут с вами забыл, жинка там с ума сходит" сто Офисов из ста.
Мы тоже не понимает, что ты такое, дружок, мы тоже.
"Я ваша мама. Вы думаете у меня есть ответы на все вопросы? Это не так."
Депрессия Ванды это такая жиза, что очень, даже слишком достоверно. Плюс ещё одна фаза проживания горя, отлично они по ним проходятся уже какую серию.
Переживаю за пацанов немного, но уверена, всё будет ок. Непонятно только, тоже ли они выдумка Ванды, или реальные дети из этого города?
Так вскрылось всё про Агату/Агнесс красиво за две серии до конца, и чет мне кажется, не так всё просто окажется в итоге, слишком легко они выбросили этот козырь, и так все с первой серии догадывались.
Хотя, с другой стороны, Кэтрин Хан так прекрасна в этом своем водевиле из буффонады, что я согласна и на такой простой ответ, что главная злодейка истории она, слишком хороша чертовка.
Сцена после титров! Что за орео, что за прекрасный Питерс. Честно, приму любое уже объяснение, кто он, просто дайте его и побольше.
очень нравится новый формат ситкома со всеми этими интервью, а-ля офис. шутки всё так же на высоте, несмотря на общую драматичную атмосферу.
агата восхитительна, как и её интро.
Смотрю с ней третий сериал подряд.. она везде немного безумная. Обожаю безумных женщин)
До 14 лет, я была влюблена в её сестёр, и даже не подозревала, что в семье они не самые талантливые😅
Ванда в образе уставшей мамы – топ 🤣 и этот её разговор с близнецами у дивана ! я Агнесс не подозревала только из-за разговора с Вижном, но, как оказалось, она и тут легко и просто вокруг пальца обвела,
чертовка.