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Duration: 52 min.
Released: 31.03.202101.04.2021 01:00
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1 season
s01e03
s01e01 - Серия 1
s01e02 - Серия 2
s01e03 - Серия 3
s01e04 - Серия 4
s01e05 - Серия 5
s01e06 - Серия 6
s01e07 - Серия 7
s01e08 - Серия 8
s01 special-1 - Фильм о фильме

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Alessandros
Alessandros
01 Apr 2021, 02:57 # Show original
This time, Citizen Nagiyev looks more brutal, although I may be mistaken.
Timing is delayed by small details, this is of course a minus. But the meat cleaver, perhaps, needs to be hidden. Otherwise, it will disappear in someone's briefcase.
tw1061905
tw1061905
01 Apr 2021, 18:14 # Show original
Can anyone explain what the point of this whole fool-planting arc is if the murders obviously continue? Or is the bald man really so dumb that he believes they killed?
MalcolmDex
MalcolmDex
01 Apr 2021, 19:47 # Show original
@tw1061905: I would put a hundred likes on this comment
They've been sucking it out for three episodes now, and no matter how it turns out to be the leitmotif of the series.
lyoka_d
lyoka_d
PRO
01 Apr 2021, 20:05 # Show original
@tw1061905: I also can't understand what all this is for? To curry favor? So from him the first hat will fly with the next murder. Well, the bald man can't really believe that these are murderers. After all, what did he say there? "not a snotty kid" after all. And when he received the blood type report, it seemed to me that he realized that not everything fits together.
And you won't immediately understand who is bigger than the monster chikatilo or the cops
scarykid
scarykid
01 Apr 2021, 22:02 # Show original
@tw1061905: The most interesting thing is that now it turns out that the blood type was not the same, an examination error
SaymonPhoenix
SaymonPhoenix
01 Apr 2021, 22:24 # Show original
@tw1061905: In reality, an innocent man was convicted and shot instead of Chikatilo.
MalcolmDex
MalcolmDex
01 Apr 2021, 22:29 # Show original
@SaymonPhoenix: so it seems that all these capercaillie were hung up on a previously convicted man. And we have some kind of SCHIZOOPG here. And it was an episode in a long investigation, and the series has already had three of the eight episodes about it.
Klido
Klido
PRO
01 Apr 2021, 22:57 # Show original
@SaymonPhoenix: vs1 was worse, fortunately now you can find out his whole story, and the "Case of Fools", about which, it seems, the entire 1st season before the 1st arrest is like a classic, it lasted about 2 years.
id440426744
id440426744
02 Apr 2021, 06:46 # Show original
@SaymonPhoenix: innocent? Are child rapists and murderers considered innocent in your country?
scarykid
scarykid
02 Apr 2021, 08:39 # Show original
@MalcolmDex: this convicted man was executed for the 1st murder of chikatilo only
SaymonPhoenix
SaymonPhoenix
04 Apr 2021, 13:24 # Show original
@MalcolmDex: Well, make a discount. It's still an art series BASED on real events. Some things have been changed in order to twist the plot.
SaymonPhoenix
SaymonPhoenix
04 Apr 2021, 13:24 # Show original
@id440426744: He did not commit the murders for which he was shot.
id440426744
id440426744
05 Apr 2021, 11:29 # Show original
@SaymonPhoenix: but he got an excessively small sentence for a similar rape and murder. Opponents of the death penalty weep for the "innocent", who turn out to be murderers and rapists who deserve their fate. But in principle, there are no greater defenders of pedophiles and child murderers than Russian men.
SaymonPhoenix
SaymonPhoenix
06 Apr 2021, 00:36 # Show original
@id440426744: Don't distort it. Let him be a murderer at least three times, but he was shot for something he did not commit. And what he did or didn't do something else is a completely different conversation.
maxcastle
maxcastle
02 Apr 2021, 01:48 # Show original
@tw1061905: When he was caught, it was believed in the USSR that there could not be serial killers under socialism, their best social system in the world did not provide for them.
AzW4gfZy
AzW4gfZy
04 Apr 2021, 10:34 # Show original
@tw1061905: I explain. His goal is to give him and only him a medal for the capture of the maniac, and not the investigators from Moscow. Therefore, he will plant 3 fools. It'll buy you some time. Further, new crimes will be hushed up. And then he'll find a real maniac and shoot him on the spot. Finita, the game is won, a new title has been received. Don't forget, he's a cop, not an academic.
1234lolo
1234lolo
09 Apr 2021, 21:36 # Show original
@tw1061905:well, actually, many people repeated themselves chikatilo, the investigation went on for 12 years.
Perhaps they want to show the reasons for the long search for the killer, people interfering with the investigation, lazy police
vk953662
vk953662
21 Jun 2022, 16:58 # Show original
If that's how we do it, it's much easier for a bald man to put these three away than to look for the real killer
ugualmente_al
ugualmente_al
PRO
01 Apr 2021, 18:26 # Show original
There were 3 episodes, and there was no decision to watch or not...
zula22
zula22
01 Apr 2021, 21:26 # Show original
trash..It's a terrible trash, as they show these rapes and murders. what kind of respect is there for the victims
and yes...somehow they don't show the childhood-youth of this ghoul...and there are many versions of how he became
like this, and again: if he had hidden the corpses or changed the handwriting, they would not have been caught...by profile..interesting..Why did he leave it in plain sight? and the serial killer usually has one type of victim..and he cares about boys, girls, and girls. I've reconsidered thinking like a criminal..yes
AzW4gfZy
AzW4gfZy
04 Apr 2021, 10:45 # Show original
@zula22: and how? Do you manage to think like a criminal?
zula22
zula22
04 Apr 2021, 14:33 # Show original
@Seimex: I'm definitely not a profiler. but thanks to the huge number of TV series and films about maniacs and murders...Let's just say that...I made certain conclusions
AzW4gfZy
AzW4gfZy
13 Apr 2021, 22:48 # Show original
@zula22: please advise interesting movies on this topic =)
LenoreLenore
LenoreLenore
12 Jul 2021, 20:48 # Show original
The Prodigal Son)
zula22
zula22
13 Jul 2021, 01:29 # Show original
@Seimex: Murderers, Crystal is one of ours. Thinking like a criminal
kolykhalovaa
kolykhalovaa
01 Apr 2021, 23:00 # Show original
I like the show! How Nagiyev plays, how he behaves with victims and with his family!
I wonder if his childhood will be shown? Tk in the screensaver is clearly Chikatilo a small one is shown
(As far as I know, his brother was eaten, I think this affected his psyche)
AnyaRokenroll
AnyaRokenroll
01 Apr 2021, 23:35 # Show original
There is such a version, according to Chikatilo himself, allegedly during the famine in Ukraine, fellow villagers ( or even parents) They ate his older brother. But there is no evidence or confirmation of the existence of an older brother at all.
ChelseaSmile91
ChelseaSmile91
PRO
07 Apr 2021, 20:24 # Show original
@AnyaRokenroll: "Misha, Misha," shouted Chikatilo. But no, it's a completely different story)
misanthrope_69
misanthrope_69
26 Apr 2021, 01:06 # Show original
I understood the reference))))
elizabeth666
elizabeth666
02 Apr 2021, 04:03 # Show original
If he chewed a nipple in this episode, does this mean that in the next episode he will chew a uterus? Can the series only offer murder scenes? You can probably forget about the rest. Nagiyev and his handkerchief do not save this series at all, it's a shame
Mirari
Mirari
29 May 2021, 01:58 # Show original
@elizabeth666: Are you serious now?? A teenager mowing down a rebel (666 in the nickname) and is upset by just bitten off nipples? Satan will not be pleased with you!
ArtemPermiakov
ArtemPermiakov
02 Apr 2021, 13:49 # Show original
I'm the only one who doesn't understand why shoot and show murder scenes in such detail? I don't think it was necessary...from each episode , I also think about watching or not further , but I 'll watch it ... After three episodes of 5 points, I can only rate it at a confident 3.
vk775121
vk775121
02 Apr 2021, 18:08 # Show original
@ArtemPermiakov: actually, this is a very important point, this is how the contrast of the family Chikatilo and the maniac Chikatilo works. The only thing is that there is not enough depth yet
FaridaDzhafarova
FaridaDzhafarova
02 Apr 2021, 14:20 # Show original
This series seemed to me a little weaker than the first two. I rated the first and second 4, this one 3. I am amused by the comments in which viewers are perplexed about the detailed murders. So you're watching a TV series about a maniac, if anything 🤷🏻♀️
ArtemPermiakov
ArtemPermiakov
02 Apr 2021, 14:53 # Show original
First of all, tell me the series about maniacs where such scenes are shown? Secondly, I think that most people, like me, love the thriller and investigation genre because of how detectives think and how they analyze and what they do to catch such freaks, and not the scenes of how they kill in detail.
vk775121
vk775121
02 Apr 2021, 18:12 # Show original
@ArtemPermiakov: This series doesn't work as a detective. We have no intrigue in the audience, we know the killer. Such a series should work as a psychological thriller, detailed murders can give a psychological portrait of a maniac. Do you know how many psychopaths and sociopaths there are among the residents of your city? In some Moscow there will be more than 100k, but these are not all murderers and maniacs, somewhere scammers, somewhere heartless husbands and so on.
ArtemPermiakov
ArtemPermiakov
02 Apr 2021, 22:48 # Show original
What is it about, watch the TV series Crash, where they show already in the first episodes who kills... and this is just one example. what kind of psychological thriller is there, it doesn't even smell like it here.
Kroze
Kroze
02 Apr 2021, 17:27 # Show original
Oh, Irina, I just physically feel like we're wasting our time... (C)

What a worthless character this psychologist is. There is not a single normal hypothesis, nothing can be clearly explained. "What are you doing?" "They are not murderers, it is obvious to me..." Well, if it is obvious - explain, prove, express your conclusions at last! Sometimes it seems that he is acting out the type of that nerd from the "Best Movie" in which Nagiyev was harking. Maybe he'll hark into that one, too. And the psychologist will be outraged: "How dare you? You're a maniac, that's obvious. Psychology is an exact science, but how can you not understand!"

Lavronenko's character "one of the best investigators in Russia" did NOTHING useful in three episodes.

The maniac brutally killed someone again. Honestly, I didn't watch, but turned away, if the director thinks that demonstrating the murder process gives the series weight and drama, no. This makes the series a cheapie that tries to play on strong emotions.

I hope it won't be a procedural with a mandatory kill per episode. Only here's the problem - they need to show a maniac, because the series is about him and generally bears his name in the title, and he didn't do anything else besides murder. Even his training is minimal, he lured and killed, that's all. There will obviously be a series about Chikatilo's childhood, and in the final episode he will be caught. What else can the director show to attract attention?

And it seems to me that they will be messing with the "Case of Fools" for a long time, they also have to show the shooting of the left suspect. And there are only 8 episodes. The scriptwriters could not register the course of the investigation interestingly, the characters from the police are either boring or stupid, the love line is ridiculous, everything is clear with the killer.
vk775121
vk775121
02 Apr 2021, 18:13 # Show original
@Kroze: calling psychology an exact science is funny of course) scoop style)
ArtemPermiakov
ArtemPermiakov
02 Apr 2021, 22:44 # Show original
I completely agree .
vk459618
vk459618
03 Apr 2021, 01:45 # Show original
how did it happen that the "best investigator from Moscow" is in fact just a worse grandfather, the "genius psychologist" is a vague omission, and the regional cops are absolute assholes that are completely devoid of brains?
and fuck the cops bring the psychologist with that woman?
why is there a love line between cops in this series at all?
Evdokimich
Evdokimich
03 Apr 2021, 13:49 # Show original
The dialogues are unbearably flat, the disliked line is absolutely out of place, the characters are all nothing, and Nagiyev is unconvincing. It seems that in the series I am attracted only by the composition of the frame and the color scheme... After the pilot, I kept thinking whether the series would be good or bad. Now I know for sure.
fb939369
fb939369
14 Apr 2022, 00:01 # Show original
The love line is so unnatural that it's just creepy. When he talks about Irina with his teacher and he says that I understood everything about YOU, then you believe Vitaly, who says that he misunderstood everything because there is nothing at all between them, absolutely flat, just no way
The love line in Murderers was written by someone from above compared to this
uil
uil
PRO
03 Apr 2021, 19:07 # Show original
"The new adventures of Ensign Zadov"
chertova_koshka
chertova_koshka
03 Apr 2021, 22:35 # Show original
Oh, I don't want to be renewed for a second season. It's been too long for the cat to pull for the same thing...
Aragelo
Aragelo
03 Apr 2021, 23:54 # Show original
There are too many mediocre, pretentious and tactless dialogues, scanty screen time for GG, an idiotic, far-fetched love line with a psychologist... I had enough for three episodes
00rainbow00
00rainbow00
PRO
04 Apr 2021, 18:59 # Show original
Well, this series is already more or less watchable. It is surprising that none of the commentators noticed the different knives at Chikatilo. The first knife he washes in the sink has a yellow wooden round handle. the 2nd knife that he washes after the murder is a black wooden round handle with fruit (a pattern like on old wooden spoons) And the knife that he gives to his wife is already with a black plastic handle (on which the victim's blood remains) Didn't they see it in post-production? Or did they just wave their hand like Vovka from a faraway kingdom? 🤔😤
EvilClown
EvilClown
10 May 2021, 10:59 # Show original
@00rainbow00: Well, Wikipedia says that he had 200+ kitchen knives.
smeshnulya
smeshnulya
04 Apr 2021, 19:08 #
сейчас хочу отметить, что Нагиев играет не так чётко. его персонаж кажется ненормальным, когда он разговаривает с кем-то. ну в бытовой обстановке странным, а не в маньячной, хах.
дело в том, что, так сказать, в обществе он должен казаться совершенно обычным, а не каким-то психом шизоидного типа. и взгляд такой стрёмный в сцене, где он просит девушку проводить его. что-то не дотягивает а этом плане.

но опять скажу, что сцена убийства с изнасилованием очень хороша по съёмке и по вызывающим эмоциям. мощно и отвратительно.
Joeymustdie
Joeymustdie
PRO
05 Apr 2021, 16:32 #
Опять они везде пихают эти любовные арки...

Не понимаю зачем Нагиев гримасничает, это смотрится комично, а не устрашающе. И вообще глядя на него, создаётся впечатление, что Чикатило какой-то больной и слабый, почти дедушка немощный.

Специально смотрела видеозаписи с судов над Чикатило. Он бодренький и лицо не перекошенное как будто сейчас блеванет. Очень странно Нагиев отыгрывает, короче говоря. Может быть он, конечно, ознакомился с видеозаписями и лучше погрузился в своего персонажа, отсюда и такая игра. Но выглядит это очень не натурально и максимально наигранно.
van_nilla
van_nilla
PRO
07 Apr 2021, 15:27 #
@Joeymustdie: согласна с вами! вообще, если он был серийный убийца, то чтобы ему заманить всех этих людей, нужно было как то втереться им в доверие. а с таким лицом, как тут показывает нам Нагиев, это сложно представить! ну как так то? ну ладно там проститутка, она, видимо, и не с такими спала. но остальные??? нам он показан как явный социопат, с этими дурацкими гримасами и ни разу не приятное лицо. да он отвратителен тут, и взгляд такой зловещий, не предвещающий ничего хорошего. вообще омерзительный тип!
1234lolo
1234lolo
10 Apr 2021, 22:42 #
@Joeymustdie:это же не докумерталка ,а худ экранизация биографии
Joeymustdie
Joeymustdie
PRO
11 Apr 2021, 08:50 #
@1234lolo: Я прекрасно понимаю, что это художественный фильм. Но это не повод создавать нового маньяка, просто приписав ему известное имя. Можно приукрасить события, можно немного по-другому их показать. А в чем смысл изменять у персонажа поведение, манеру речи, добавлять ему какие-то отсебятинские привычки, но называть всё равно - Чикатило?

С тем же успехом можно было снять абсолютно новый фильм про выдуманного маньяка, просто взяв за прототип Чикатило. И тогда было бы меньше вопросов.
xlbuff
xlbuff
05 Apr 2021, 21:45 #
Сериал в целом неплохо смотрится, хорошо снят, но карикатурность персонажей и кривое лицо Нагиева всё портят. Толи переборщили с гримом, толи он сам кривляется, но местами выглядит так, будто Чикатило это дед с запором, уж простите.
Gordey
Gordey
06 Apr 2021, 21:03 #
"Дело дураков", про которое рассказывают уже 3 серии, тянулось два года, может они решили просто этот эпизод экранизировать? Ну и в финале просто снимут концовочку как поймали и расстреляли и всё
tanyaabozhko
tanyaabozhko
07 Apr 2021, 16:18 #
Любить или ненавидеть?
Восхищаться или чмырить?
Вот честно, я для себя до сих пор не могу понять как относиться к сей экранизации. Бесит тупость! Ужасно раздражает затянутость и топтание на месте. Ожидание хоть какого-то эмоционального всплеска, но все как то по верхам... не дотягивают. После третьей серии меня удивляет лишь то, что я до сих пор не имею абсолютно никаких эмоций ни к одному из персонажей. Никто не влюбил до глубины души и никто не бесит. Все так... на троечку. Про то как показана работа полиции, вообще молчу.
yanaburova
yanaburova
09 Apr 2021, 00:11 #
Разве слово «зашквар» употреблялось в те годы? Мне казалось этому слову не больше 10 лет.
Joeymustdie
Joeymustdie
PRO
11 Apr 2021, 08:55 #
@yanaburova: вполне. Это же тюремный жаргон) зашкваритья = замараться о петуха; т.е. войти в какой-либо контакт с опущенным (петухом) или с его вещами
Managa
Managa
09 Apr 2021, 10:23 #
Сцена с откусыванием соска ... 🤢 аж подступило...
ashviki
ashviki
10 Apr 2021, 09:58 #
Почему я не могу отпустить мысль что если бы не Нагиев и паренек который играет психолога - сериал бы очень выиграл от этого, был бы более как сказать , качественным . Ну не подходят они, либо не доигрывают/переигрывают, не то пальто((( так жаль, конечно досмотрю, такая история - удивляюсь что раньше такой сериал не сняли.
MelaniMariaMari
MelaniMariaMari
13 Apr 2021, 17:02 #
К истории Чикатило можно было подойти с кучи разных сторон - рассказать больше о том, как именно ему удавалось вызвать доверие у жертв, как он получился такой, скольких трудов стоило изучать и искать его, больше про личность жертв, их семьи, судебный процесс (даже приговор интересно читать, а какой процедурал классный из этого можно было сделать!). В итоге какие-то типичные пиздострадания, срачи и склоки сериалов с России 1.

Интересно посмотреть, как профессионалы работают, как из теоретика потом и кровью вырастает практик, а не на то, как под мужика все, кому не лень, подкладывают свободную женщину.

Начинала смотреть с оптимизмом. Т.к. последнее время много хороших российских сериалов вышло - Эпидемия, Топи, Чики, Перевал Дятлова (самая большая любовь) - даже Адреасянам готова была дать шанс. Но этот сериал не хороший. Братья Адреасяны как всегда всё испортили((

P.S. к Нагиеву вопросов нет, хотя с зубами ему что-то странное сделали. У Чикатило во время разговора/улыбки нижние зубы видны были, здесь передние зачем-то выставили.
Тётя_с_чайником
Тётя_с_чайником
23 Apr 2021, 19:39 #
Директор, О. тумайкина, отличная) «а вот это ещё нужно доказать»)) напомнила сыщикам.
Victoria_Vi
Victoria_Vi
17 May 2021, 16:01 #
Мне в этой серии не хватило обоснования психолога почему "это не они". Потому что " Я изучал психологию, это точная наука и могу сказать что они не убивали", это не аргументы. Хотя бы пару фраз о психотипах этих молодых людей и характере убийств, пожалуйста.
Nusya1985
Nusya1985
17 Sep 2021, 00:26 #
@Victoria_Vi: Поддерживаю. Кроме как - это не они - больше аргументов нет. Мне вообще непонятно как его включили в группу, за 3 серии он ничего не показал. Там даже близко психология не стоит. Я думала покажут сцену с учительницей, но нет нам только сказали как круто он все разрулил.
Nusya1985
Nusya1985
17 Sep 2021, 00:24 #
Пока из всего что наблюдаем - это абсолютно плоские диалоги, бесполезная любовная линия, слабая игра актёров, попытка сыграть на шокирующих сценах убийств, менты соревнуются у кого писюны круче и больше, линия с дураками - вообще треш полный - настолько плоская. Очень опосредованная съемка.
Ну и опять хочется отметить Нагиева - плохо, очень плохо. Его походка, ухмылки, гримасы.
ПанПан
ПанПан
10 May 2022, 15:53 #
Нагиев на все 100% отыгрывает,аж по лицу хочется съездить персонажу,молодец короче😁
zinzinja
zinzinja
19 Jun 2022, 19:21 #
Чикатило тут играет лысый мент-местный полковник
Tafrial
Tafrial
07 Jan 2023, 21:35 #
пока все нравится, достаточно интересно смотреть отечественный (наконец, последние несколько лет наши начали снимать хорошие сериалы, а не ментовские войны и каменских).
только ни как не могу воспринять Нагиева в этой роли, как бы он не старался, тут как-то мимо, особенно типаж и внешность. у меня вызывает отвращение данный человек и то что он делал, но смотрю на Нагиева и не чувствую этого, больше аналогии с Ревой в роли бабушки легкого поведения возникают ... или где он там бабушку в платочке играл?
Пропащая
Пропащая
18 Feb 2023, 01:47 #
Какая же тягомотина во всем, что касается взаимодействия внутри следственной группы!
Прямо бесит, приходится проматывать.
-Rapunzel-
-Rapunzel-
08 Apr 2023, 19:17 #
Всё ещё не понимаю, как на роль Чикатило взяли Нагиева... Да, он похож на маньяка чутка, но не на Чикатило
a1379402
a1379402
29 Jan 23:21 #
Ну шо, по русским сериалам?)
Arianari
Arianari
09 Feb 03:31 #
Перестала смотреть после 3 серии. Уж слишком затянули.
Может конечно когда-нибудь досмотрю, но не сейчас.
Ленивец
Ленивец
06 Apr 11:55 # Show original
I don't want to sound cruel, but it seems to me that it is the murder scenes that take out the series, at least for now. Rather, the contrast of two types-a brutal murderer and an exemplary citizen. I watch a lot of detective stories, of course, not everywhere such explicit scenes are shown. But here it is in contrast that they take out. Like the brutality of the murders, the violence, the mutilated victims, it's all disgusting. And in ordinary life, such a family man is in good standing at work, on good terms with everyone. Although it seems to me personally that he is a maniac in ordinary life. It's obvious that something is wrong with him. How he talks, how he eats is generally terrible, how he behaves. Xs, they say that most maniacs look very positive and you'd never think, but here his abnormality seems obvious. I don't know if this was the case in reality, but in the series and by choice of the actor-Nagiyev, his transformation, it seems that at first glance he looks like an inadequate person. Maybe it was done specifically for a particular series, the move is like this. Or maybe it was the same in reality. We need to watch it after the documentary. In general, after watching three episodes, I drew conclusions: there are pros and cons, as well as almost everywhere, I like the picture as a whole, and the time is so beautifully conveyed, some scenes are very delayed, but interest is definitely aroused, so I will continue to watch.
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