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s06e02 — Carrot and Stick

Better Call Saul — s06e02 — Carrot and Stick

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Released: 18.04.202219.04.2022 05:00
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6 season
s06e02
s05e08 - Bagman
s05e09 - Bad Choice Road
s05e10 - Something Unforgivable
s06e01 - Wine and Roses
s06e02 - Carrot and Stick
s06e03 - Rock and Hard Place
s06e04 - Hit and Run
s06e05 - Black and Blue
s06e06 - Axe and Grind

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Cavelier
Cavelier
19 Apr 2022, 13:55 #
Kim went all in in this series, she is no longer an unstoppable force, even Saul is getting scared
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workglpr
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01 May 2022, 15:50 #
@Cavalier: Smart Girl. From the very beginning, I admire this character
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Nog
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19 Apr 2022, 14:52 #
A quick-witted devil.
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antivoltt
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19 Apr 2022, 15:10 #
@Nog: I wonder how you guessed it? Would Hector never shake hands?
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Nog
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19 Apr 2022, 15:30 #
@antivoltt: I must have read something in my eyes. Like, "I know what you don't know," some kind of hidden celebration.
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apb48
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19 Apr 2022, 17:30 #
@Nog: I think both, firstly I would not have given my hand, secondly Hector's look was too promising "a long happy life ahead"😁😄
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DEHiCKA
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24 Apr 2022, 10:54 #
@antivoltt: he knows that Hector is emotional and could not hide his grief from his dead nephew.
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Ctixia
Ctixia
25 Apr 2022, 08:43 #
@DEHiCKA: Yes, Hector looked too triumphant for a grieving uncle.
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jfax
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11 Sep 2022, 20:35 #
@antivoltt: plus to the above, he already suspected.
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SvoyaVolna
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30 May 2022, 16:47 #
@Nog: before his death in BB, he also read the essence from the expression on Hector Salamanca's face, but it was too late that time
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antivoltt
antivoltt
19 Apr 2022, 15:09 #
Why did Mike put an envelope with a motel phone number in the safe? Or did he not know? I no longer understand how they want to use Nacho (or just drain him).
Well, Saul, great acting, what did he do to Kim that she is ready to go all the way in such a case.
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Bontya
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19 Apr 2022, 16:16 #
@antivoltt: Mike clearly wants to save Nacho, find him first and let him disappear. I think he's projecting his dead son onto Nacho, wants to save him, since he couldn't save his son. For Gustavo, there is no Nacho, so there is no evidence of his involvement in the attempt on Lalo.
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sugarmoney
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14 May 2022, 01:03 #
@Bontya: I also think Mike projects on Nacho, and then in BB we see Mike projecting on Jesse. Many (and I, too) connect the very words Mike said to Jesse "you're not the guy, you're not capable of being the guy, I had a guy but now I don't" with this, they say that The Guy was just that Nacho
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-VLDMR-
-VLDMR-
20 Apr 2022, 00:38 #
@antivoltt: Maybe Mike put the envelope with the motel number on Gustavo's orders to drain Nacho, even though he didn't want it.
And it wasn't Saul and Kim who did it, but Howard. He humiliated her for several seasons.
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sb9
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22 Apr 2022, 14:13 #
@-VLDMR-: it would be a big stretch for the globe that Mike hired a dude in a hut and told him to go outside at a certain time so that Nacho would notice him before the attack, but it looks like it is
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G00ba
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24 Apr 2022, 01:40 #
@sb9: And which dude went outside? - it was an ordinary bichara. Nacho saw how the condee was flowing in the next hall, which was boarded up.
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26rus_alk
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04 Feb 2023, 01:47 #
@-VLDMR-: this is very stupid, because the cartel could have taken Nacho alive and extracted everything
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LUXEON
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13 Mar 00:22 #
@-VLDMR-: Yes, everything is very clear, Mike planted a letter so that the Salamanca would find out which hotel he was in and that he planned to be there after the assassination attempt, which means he was definitely involved, Gustavo hired a dude to watch so that he would know Nacho's fate, that he was killed and the case was closed. But the detail is that Lalo is alive and he needs to prove Gustavo's involvement in the assassination attempt, which means he needs Nacho alive. The plan is falling apart..
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_ArxAngel_
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12 May 2022, 01:17 #
I think it was planned to take the bait, which was Vargo.
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Nog
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19 Apr 2022, 15:25 #
Another greeting from the future.
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Bontya
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19 Apr 2022, 16:13 #
When you see the Kettlemans, you immediately remember the first season, how they hid in a tent))) life doesn't teach people anything. Kim is just the boss at the end, the Iron lady. Two episodes have flown by, we are waiting for more
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mamkerink
mamkerink
19 Apr 2022, 17:09 #
Nacho turned on Max Payne right away :))

And Kim suddenly makes some very sharp moves. Most of all, I feel sorry for Howard, the dude is being strangled for nothing.
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Cavelier
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19 Apr 2022, 21:49 #
@mamkerink: Yes, I'm most worried about Howard.
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LUXEON
LUXEON
13 Mar 00:23 #
@mamkerink: Is it so for nothing?
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Метеора
Метеора
19 Apr 2022, 22:38 #
Damn, I'm so impressed with Mike. He always acts guided by his inner credo, lives according to the code he has chosen for himself. For him, everyone is primarily just a person, and it doesn't matter if it's a drug addict, a bandit, a murderer, or someone worse. He does not hang labels, and will not do bad to another until he has done bad to him.

In contrast to him, Gustavo, for whom any person on the contrary is just an expendable material, or a step that will lead him to the desired result. He doesn't care about anyone, he just sees the goal, and everything else doesn't matter to him. This is admirable, of course, but not as much as we would like. Still, humanity is probably the most important thing that can be. And a steady moral compass.

Kim is great! A real fighting friend. And, as it seems to me, only she pulls on the title of "wolf" in the last scene. Jimmy is not drawn to it here. He has an interesting behavior when Kim comes to the fore: he always seems to pull away, stews immediately. Either he is afraid that one day she will also grind him to powder in the same way, or he just understands that he is not as good as her, or something else…
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Логин_уже_занят
Логин_уже_занят
21 Apr 2022, 15:03 #
@Meteora: I think Jimmy is scared of such a Kim, that's why he stews. It is unclear how far she is ready to go and how hard she will play.
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Rastey
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23 Apr 2022, 13:22 #
@Meteora: They wrote very intelligently about Mike and Gustavo. Thanks
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GritsanY
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26 May 2022, 09:43 #
@Meteora: I wouldn't say that Mike is so open-minded, he has been through a lot in his life and most often just distances himself from people to avoid problems. He really has an internal code, some kind of heightened sense of justice. He feels that he has to do something for someone, even if it may lead to problems in the future, because he believes that it is the right thing to do.
And Jimmy, firstly, is still shocked by the situation with Lala (Saul clearly got into the business not of his level and miraculously survived) and secondly sees that Kim, who was a moral compass for him, no longer disdains manipulating people to get his way.
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burunduk666
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13 Mar 2023, 16:01 #
@GritsanY: Jimmy in the fifth season, I don't remember exactly the episode, told her in plain text that he didn't like that she was turning into him. And about the moral compass, this is literally what was said.
Plus, Jimmy has been involved in scams literally since childhood in order to be able to make a "controlled explosion". She's just a hurricane of destructive power named Kim. She simply does not feel the shores. It seems to me that this is why Jimmy even tried to defend Howard at first, but was unable to stand up to his wife.
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LUXEON
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13 Mar 00:26 #
@burunduk666: I think he wasn't protecting Howard, but her from possible consequences.
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id70201890
id70201890
26 May 2022, 11:12 #
@Meteora: " He always acts guided by his inner credo, lives by the code he has chosen for himself. For him, everyone is primarily just a person, and it doesn't matter if it's a drug addict, a thug, a murderer, or worse. He does not hang labels, and he will not do bad to another until he has done bad to him."

But what about the innocent foreman of the builders who was executed by him, is this also included in his code?
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Метеора
Метеора
26 May 2022, 12:06 #
@id70201890: There are different circumstances here. The decisions that a person makes himself and the decisions that other people make for a person if he is subordinate to them. Of course, you can say that since Mike is so perfect (if you suddenly thought so according to my words), then he could go openly to Gustavo, refuse to follow orders, but he is just as bound by obligations as all the people around (relatives, loved ones). I was just talking about personal decisions and choices that a person makes when there is no external pressure on him. Mike didn't like what he did, it disgusted his being, all his inner attitudes, and if he had his way, I think he would have acted differently.
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id70201890
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26 May 2022, 12:28 #
@Meteora: No, the excuse "This is different" won't work here) This is an adult who makes his own decisions, it's like the excuses of the Nazis after the war, allegedly we were ordered, we are forced people. Mike chose this profession himself and no one forced him to. He executed an ordinary man, I'm silent about the dozens of bandits he killed. So he doesn't have any code, I understand that the hero is shown to us in such a way that you sympathize with him, the merit of the actor and the creators, but if you think soberly, he is a criminal, a murderer.
Yes, he has pangs of conscience afterwards, and does that cancel out his guilt? It doesn't work that way.
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Метеора
Метеора
26 May 2022, 12:44 #
@id70201890: I'm not saying it's different. I am talking about different manifestations of a person: when he is independent of anyone, and when he makes one or another choice depending on the circumstances prevailing over him. He has a daughter-in-law and a granddaughter behind him, he acts one way or another, starting from the fact that any decision he makes can harm people he cares about. If he were crystal clear, he would not have taken such a job at all — I agree with you here. But the thing is that there are no such people, everyone does something bad and something good in their lives. The question is which side actually outweighs. This series is generally about paradoxes and about gray people, if you think about it that way.
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id70201890
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26 May 2022, 12:47 #
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Метеора
Метеора
26 May 2022, 12:58 #
@id70201890: Well, yes, and Hitler was a vegetarian and very fond of dogs.
There are no perfect people, we are all a set of good and bad here. In each individual case, in each individual person, you need to understand the facts and circumstances.
The good side of the Shirt outweighs it.
The world is not black and white, unfortunately, not everything in it is so simple and unambiguous, here a good person can do terrible things. There is no need to equalize everyone under one comb.
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id70201890
id70201890
26 May 2022, 13:07 #
@Meteora: OK, now imagine yourself in the place of that builder's wife. Does the good side still outweigh the good side?) Will you figure out what facts and circumstances forced him to kill your husband?
No need to talk about gray morality, etc., there is no quotation mark in the contact. Mike is a criminal and a murderer, period
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Метеора
Метеора
26 May 2022, 13:30 #
@id70201890: If I were the wife of that builder, then yes, I would want to figure out why my husband was killed, in all the facts and circumstances. Most likely, it would have led to my death, but I would have done everything to get to the bottom of it. In this situation, I would not think in such categories: is he a good person or a bad one, I would not be up to it. His wife doesn't see the whole picture, but that certainly wouldn't affect which side she chooses. It is clear that for her he is the murderer of her husband and this covers everything.
You and I see the whole picture, and depending on this, we can draw one or another conclusion. You did one, I did the other. The whole point is that the murderer and the criminal are not a good person.
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Метеора
Метеора
26 May 2022, 13:43 #
@id70201890: Here are a couple of tasks for you to think about:
1) a man comes at your loved one with an axe, trying to protect him, you shoot at the attacker, he dies. Who are you now? A criminal and a murderer? Is he a good person or a bad one? What if it turns out that the attacker was crazy and didn't realize what he was doing? What then?
2) You have a friend who is in prison for drug distribution. Is he a criminal? A bad person? And if he has never done anything wrong to you and your loved ones and you have known him since childhood? What if he helped you a lot once, and even saved you once? Is he bad too?
Life is multifaceted, people are not static — they are a set of actions, bad and good. One action of a person does not define him entirely, it only shows one of his manifestations.
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id70201890
id70201890
26 May 2022, 14:12 #
@Meteora: I've already realized about the gray morality, we're starting to repeat ourselves. Your examples are not entirely relevant on the topic of Mike, there is a different situation there. Self-defense is one thing, but cold-blooded execution is quite another. Let's stop there, otherwise we will endlessly argue here, everyone will remain with their own opinion
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Makedonfly
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04 Jun 2022, 20:10 #
@id70201890: The foreman in this case was not innocent, unfortunately, and Mike understood this perfectly well. In the case of Nacho, he is desperately fighting for him, because Nacho did everything they asked him to do, and did it perfectly - and in return he gets a "verdict", which Mike sees as extremely unfair. The foreman of the builders, although he was a sincere charismatic man, openly jeopardized their project, and did not learn from his mistakes and ignored warnings = natural elimination. If anything, I'm not trying to shield Mike, it's just that his actions here are quite understandable and logical in both cases.)
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id70201890
id70201890
04 Jun 2022, 21:28 #
@Makedonfly: The foreman was "guilty" from the point of view of criminals. Mike is guilty both in human terms and in criminal ones, so I don't understand why there's any need to argue at all, it's just a fact - he's a murderer.
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satanoid_dog
satanoid_dog
27 Jun 2022, 23:29 #
@Meteora: >>Hitler was a vegetarian and very fond of dogs.
Well, no one is perfect, everyone has their flaws.
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jtQ
jtQ
12 Aug 2022, 19:20 #
@id70201890: Mike is sure that despite the fact that you are a bad person, you must be honest, he sees honor and justice in the fulfilled word. The foreman made a stupid decision, did not fulfill his obligations to them, framed Gus and it was unclear what to expect from him next. Nacho was promised freedom and a way out of the game, but in fact he was framed and all decisions are made for him.
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LUXEON
LUXEON
13 Mar 00:37 #
@id70201890: Has anyone claimed otherwise? The killer is the one who killed a man, so Mike killed quite a lot of people, no one denies it. The foreman had already been sentenced, he would have been killed anyway and Mike would not have influenced it in any way, he volunteered to do it for personal reasons, his miscalculation, perhaps humanism. After all, he executed the foreman in less cruel conditions than it could have been. And, for a moment, if I remember correctly, I bargained for his wife's life.
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gkalian
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20 Apr 2022, 00:21 #
With some difficulty, I remembered Kettlemans, how long ago it was. But Kim is tough, it's a little weird to see Jimmy stewing. You can't help but wonder who is really "slippery" in this pair. He obviously doesn't like the whole Howard thing.

It's not very clear with Nacho whether the bullets hit him or not. They were shooting at him so actively, he was shooting himself, the front window was all in holes.
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mamkerink
mamkerink
20 Apr 2022, 01:37 #
Because for Jimmy, the Howard situation was revenge on his brother, but since there is no brother, then here is his right hand. But Howard didn't do anything of the kind on his own, here are the sudden bouts of morality
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furSy
furSy
21 Apr 2022, 01:10 #
@mamkerink: I've already forgotten, what was Kim's plan for Howard?
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Rastey
Rastey
23 Apr 2022, 13:24 #
@gkalian: He himself shot through the windshield, but only at the wheels and maybe the engine. We need live "testimony" to the bosses to get the basis for Gustavo's murder.
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WinnyQ
WinnyQ
24 May 2022, 00:53 #
@gkalian: please remind me in a nutshell about the ketlmanovs
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gkalian
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24 May 2022, 08:33 #
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gkalian
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24 May 2022, 13:11 #
@WinnyQ: Somehow I didn't understand how it happened that the comment was deleted (there was a link to the fandom.com on the series).

The Kettlemans stole a million dollars, Jimmy says they will be accused of embezzlement and tries to impose himself as their lawyer. It doesn't work out, they choose another office. Then Nacho somehow notices them, decides to steal their money, since they are stolen anyway. The Kettlemans run away like on a "camping trip", Jimmy finds them, they give him a bribe. And one way or another, they end up where they are now. I don't remember exactly if they had something judicial or not, but they are still engaged in fraud, as you can see.

Something is wrong.
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olekolegovich
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02 Oct 2023, 00:03 #
@gkalian: and if it hadn't been for Jimmy and Kim, Craig Kettleman would have been imprisoned for a much longer period, he would have been in prison for a long time. They were the ones who arranged the refund deal, for which the money had to be stolen from them.
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Kvazizavr
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20 Apr 2022, 03:39 #
Almost all my predictions were confirmed - except that Lalo would go to the USA to take revenge and there, cut off from the cartel's resource, he would fall into a trap: he turned out to be smarter and guessed to call his uncle. But he didn't stay "killed" for long either, Gus understood everything at once from Hector's snide expression.
Now it's all about Nacho again.
I understood that at the end it was Mike's car, was he following Saul and Kim?
Maybe he will try to organize something through him? And will he end up with Gus?
Everything looks very promising so far.
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mamkerink
mamkerink
20 Apr 2022, 09:20 #
Sol, as far as I remember, is not personally acquainted with Gus. He knows a guy (Ermantraut) who knows a guy (Fring).
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20 Apr 2022, 10:41 #
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Ctixia
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25 Apr 2022, 08:47 #
@Kvazizavr: I assumed it was Lalo, although I don't see any particular reason for him to keep an eye on Jimmy.
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GritsanY
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26 May 2022, 09:46 #
@Ctixia: Lalo decided not to go to the states in the previous episode, but to stay in Mexico to look for Varga.
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Ctixia
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26 May 2022, 11:18 #
@GritsanY: I remember, but we might not have been shown his return later.
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anni713
11 Jun 2022, 21:44 #
And I thought it was the same guy, Howard's partner, who the Kettlemans came to see for the first time, who was watching them.
Well, they and their story about drugs seemed suspicious to him, and he decided to follow up
And here they have Sol and Kim
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vk399352
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20 Apr 2022, 11:49 #
@kvazizavr it seems to be Lalo in the car
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DEHiCKA
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24 Apr 2022, 00:45 #
@vk399352: Yes, but he stayed in Mexico
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XTheme
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20 Apr 2022, 15:20 #
Remind me, what happened to the Kettlemans in Breaking Bad?
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KaleDofled
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20 Apr 2022, 20:08 #
@XTheme: They didn't seem to be in serious cases
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XTheme
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20 Apr 2022, 20:38 #
@KaleDofled: I thought from the comments that the first season of breaking bad is there, damn it) And what happened to them in Sol then in the first season, I have already forgotten everything is simple, but there is no time to reconsider
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id70201890
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20 Apr 2022, 22:09 #
@XTheme: The husband appropriated the money, he was caught and he wanted to hire Saul as a lawyer, but his wife changed her mind and they went to another office. Saul wanted to pull off some kind of multi-pass, I don't remember exactly its meaning, but everything went wrong, they ran into Tuco and Saul almost paid with his life. Nacho found out about the stolen money, he wanted to steal it, but Saul warned them on the phone and they ran away to hide in the woods in a tent with the whole family. Sol found them and persuaded them to return, they offered him a bribe, I don't remember whether he took it or not. As a result, the husband was still imprisoned.
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XTheme
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21 Apr 2022, 14:40 #
@id70201890: Thanks for the reply)
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Kloun
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20 Apr 2022, 21:09 #
Again, Hector cut off half of Gustavo's face
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Pafasan
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20 Apr 2022, 21:37 #
The logic of the characters is still unclear.
If Fring understands that Nacho is a danger to him alive, then why did he let him escape initially, why did he not give the order to kill immediately? If the envelope was planted on his orders, then it turns out that he wanted Nacho to be found by Salamanca. Didn't he realize that in that case he could turn him in?
It is also not clear in Mike's actions what he is doing on orders and what on his own initiative. He could have planted the envelope directly, but then it would have been an obvious betrayal of Fring. Was he the one who set up the surveillance, or was it Fring's order?
What alerted and scared Nacho so much when he noticed the surveillance? He was assured that they were working on a rescue plan—what's so strange about being watched? Even when he was convinced that it was Mike's runner, he decided to run anyway. And for what purpose did he then call Mike, if in his eyes the whole story looks like an obvious setup?
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daniyarmukhanov
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21 Apr 2022, 21:52 #
@Pafasan: I agree with all the questions. But one moment, Nacho did not call Mike, but Tyrus (Gus's main guard) when he caught the observer. And Mike finally said on the phone that he was not aware of this.
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Squad
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21 Apr 2022, 22:48 #
@Pafasan: he can't kill him on the territory of Salamanca, Nacho was advised to sit in a hotel and wait for some kind of move abroad, he would have to jump into a car or something like that was said in the first episode. Therefore, Gus wants Nacho to get out alive and close his mouth on his own terms, I think Mike still planted a motel room on his own initiative to give Nacho a chance, although you can't call it a cold calculation, but still after that Mike with a ready-made plan volunteered with 4 best people to pick him up. And regarding the call to Mike, the first question was whether it was his order, to which Mike said no.
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Kloun
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24 Apr 2022, 01:10 #
@Pafasan: Gustavo wanted Salamanca to kill him while trying to take him (Tyrus also told Nacho on the phone to shoot anyone who would come in). If he had been taken alive, he would still have had leverage on Nacho so that he would not blab (his father).

Why leave him alive at all initially: the absence of his corpse among the dead suggests that he was the rat, i.e. he helped the attackers, so through him and the planted envelope would have reached out to the one who allegedly organized it. If there had been no rat (Nacho was killed there), Gustavo would not have been able to control the situation in any way.
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DEHiCKA
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24 Apr 2022, 11:01 #
@Kloun: Gus only ordered Nacho's father to be captured when Nacho was already in a fight with the Salamanks.
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LUXEON
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13 Mar 00:46 #
@DEHiCKA: And why take him earlier, he is always at hand for these purposes, you just need to order your guys and they will bring him.
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crazybee
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21 Apr 2022, 19:39 #
Nacho live
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dmitry1992
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24 Apr 2022, 02:24 #
The Salamanca brothers are, of course, monumental personalities in this universe, it seems to me. What are their boots with knobs on the toes worth! Their appearance in Breaking Bad seemed to be similar.
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Willthorn
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07 May 2022, 17:37 #
@dmitry1992: Messengers of death, unhurried and inexorable.)
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nataliysk
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13 Dec 2022, 12:36 #
@dmitry1992: I also wanted to write about their sneakers with the bandages) Spectacular brothers, of course
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DEHiCKA
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24 Apr 2022, 10:46 #
Lalo, a charming bastard, was growing himself a substitute corpse with the same dental record.
We need a spinoff spinoff with the adventures of Lalo.

It's a little unlike Gus to put Nacho's fate, and therefore his own, in the hands of the Salamanca brothers.
The calculation is obvious that after seeing the burned Lalo and getting the letter with the motel phone number, they will immediately rush over and fill up Nacho. But there is always a possibility that before he died, he could have told who the puppeteer was.

Well, a couple of things look royally:
Did the Cartel wait until Mike finished messing with the substitution of the safe in order to break into Nacho's house themselves?
Nacho discovered Gus's surveillance and decided to escape at the very moment when the cartel got hold of the letter and the Salamanca rushed to the motel.

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Ctixia
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25 Apr 2022, 08:53 #
@DEHiCKA: Maybe the safe was replaced before the murder, right after Nacho left for Mexico. Although the girls, of course, testify that Nacho has not been there for some time, but the plan to kill Lalo was clearly not implemented in one evening.
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GritsanY
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26 May 2022, 09:55 #
@Ctixia: Plus Mike didn't know then that Gus wasn't planning on bringing Nacho back. Mike obviously knows what's in the envelope and planted it only because he works for Gus, even though he doesn't agree with his methods.
Plus, Gus's team has a head start in front of the cartel anyway to process the safe. Now, in fact, Don Juan is in charge of the cartel in the States, and he doesn't think so well.
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brockway
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24 Apr 2022, 14:05 #
Look, Lalo is definitely the coolest person in the Salamanca family. The brutal type. I wish there was more of him, the character is just great)
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GritsanY
GritsanY
26 May 2022, 09:57 #
@brockway: He's like Anton Chegur from "Old People Don't Belong Here." Unstoppable avatar of chaos, you never know who will come out alive after meeting him.
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Antikus101
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24 Apr 2022, 14:31 #
I've already started to forget BB, but I really want to pour out the thought: if Kim didn't seem to be there, will she die or will she be imprisoned for who she turns into next to Saul
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Биг-Чиф-Вулабам
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24 Apr 2022, 14:38 #
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brockway
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24 Apr 2022, 14:43 #
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Blackly
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13 Feb 2023, 14:04 #
@brockway: I think you're wrong. Nacho is very attached to his father and will try to do everything so that he is not touched. Well, how it really happens there - time will tell)
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brockway
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13 Feb 2023, 14:13 #
I like him as a negative character. A real alpha) A very charismatic sociopath
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Blackly
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15 Feb 2023, 00:12 #
@brockway: Yes, he's good, damn it!
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Ctixia
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25 Apr 2022, 08:56 #
My guess is that Nacho's dad's fake documents will somehow get from Mike to him, and the folder will still have to leave. The question is whether Mike will go into direct conflict with Gustavo, he clearly does not like the boss's decisions. And judging by the future, their relationship will remain quite strong.
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GritsanY
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26 May 2022, 09:58 #
@Ctixia: He already went when he refused to look for Nacho's father. It was just lucky that Nacho himself called at that moment and asked to talk to Gus, but we don't know the result yet.
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СергейТимченко
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25 Apr 2022, 17:44 #
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25 Apr 2022, 18:17 #
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26 Apr 2022, 16:43 #
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DrAx
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25 Apr 2022, 19:09 #
In general, I almost don't understand what I'm watching and what's going on, but it's cool))
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BCubbins
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26 Apr 2022, 21:49 #
So, please explain: Lalo faked his death with the help of that couple, husband and wife, but it turns out he dragged the corpse of that man from his house to his house and burned it there?
Is that so?
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Ctixia
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27 Apr 2022, 16:05 #
@BCubbins: It turns out like this. However, I still did not understand where he found the time for this, because the massacre took place at night, Lalo appeared in the man's house most likely in the morning, while the police were already in the mansion before dark.
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BCubbins
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27 Apr 2022, 17:01 #
Here are the same thoughts
It seems a little unrealistic somehow
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ogoltelo
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10 May 2022, 01:22 #
@Ctixia: I agree. One could assume that the police are in cahoots with Salamanca, they are silent because they were bought, but again, the whole idea is to hide the fact that Lalo is alive, anyway, the rumors would at least go beyond the investigation. It 's unclear )
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Ginervsekupil
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29 Apr 2022, 19:18 #
"Enough for the carrot"
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Bullseye0901
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30 Apr 2022, 15:13 #
To be honest, I didn't really see what was happening in the series, because Mike's huge and steely balls covered the entire screen. I just love his character, he's amazing. In general, everyone here is beautiful, and how cool it is to follow the development of each of them, it's just a sight. Here's Kim from the first season and Kim now, of course, two different women, and the second one scares and fascinates too much.
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Iamliam23
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04 May 2022, 01:34 #
An excellent eventful and dynamic series.
The only thing I didn't understand was why Fring had planted the envelope with the hotel number? On the one hand, Nacho was already being watched by Fring's man, that is, he could theoretically kill Nacho and be done with it (and this would undermine Fring's relationship with Mike, because he kind of promised Mike to help Nacho). The envelope complicates everything - Nacho will catch kortel and it is unclear whether he will crack or not, there is no control over the situation as Fring likes it (even despite Nacho's father, you can say anything under torture). It feels like Fring hasn't decided what to do himself.
With Kim and Jimmy, of course, the line is no less intriguing. Judging by the pressure that Kim took, this will be the reason for her "disappearance" from Albuquerque, and it's damn interesting what exactly)
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GritsanY
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26 May 2022, 10:10 #
@Iamliam23: If Nacho had just died or disappeared, the cartel would have continued to dig and could have found evidence against Fring himself. For Gus, the ideal option is to make it look like Nacho planned everything himself, and for the cartel to kill him while trying to detain him. Fring, of course, took a lot of risks, because if Nacho had been taken alive and split, then Fring would have had big problems with the cartel. But he instructed Nacho, through Tyrus, to shoot anyone who would break into the room, and I think that if he had been locked in the room during the Salamanca attack, he would hardly have come out alive from the shootout.
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dmitrydies
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07 May 2022, 10:00 #
there is a certain analogy of the duo Kim-Sol and Walter-Jesse, respectively. Although at first Jesse seemed to us to come from the criminal world, but he still tried to improve and get on the right path, which in the end he succeeded, and Walter became a very violent criminal, the same thing is seen in the Kim-Sol tandem, where Kim begins to get up on the dark path that Jimmy carefully walked (Saul Goodman) and she's getting more into it.
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Iamliam23
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10 May 2022, 00:59 #
@dmitrydies: Well, this is certainly a rough generalization. Kim does it more out of curiosity, for fun, for her it's like a fun game, she doesn't do it because she can't help doing it. Walter couldn't help but do what he was doing, it was the answer of his entire previous life, and all his life he did not do as he wanted, even the treatment of himself was imposed on him by relatives. It's just that the vectors are similar, but not the forces.
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_ArxAngel_
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12 May 2022, 01:22 #
The authors of the series are burning out, of course, to get the Ketelmans out of the 1st season in the 6th, I had to Google, otherwise I generally don't understand who they are for so many years
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мандариновая
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23 Jun 2023, 10:56 #
@_ArxAngel_: that's why I'm watching this series in one gulpразу
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IMMORTALKING
IMMORTALKING
28 May 2022, 01:42 #
A rusty pickup truck is parked near the inflatable Statue of Liberty, which Mr. White will buy in the penultimate BrB s05e14 series from the same Indian.
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Ctixia
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28 May 2022, 01:45 #
@IMMORTALKING: I love such references.)
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Usotsuke
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30 Jul 2022, 20:08 #
Nothing is clear with the Nacho line, but it is very interesting)
It was unexpected to see Ketelmen, how good that I reviewed five seasons before the sixth))

And here's an interesting little thing: Kim turns into Mrs. Goodman at the end of the series in a bright multicolored blouse, in the style of Sol :)
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g1217882
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04 Sep 2022, 22:45 #
Poor family, Saul is their evil genius. They cruelly decided to drain Varga
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zhosman-kinoman
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09 Mar 2023, 00:23 #
...Don't be your lawyer by nostrils in Devil's dandruff ))
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olekolegovich
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02 Oct 2023, 00:13 #
Goodman's Wife > Kettleman's wife
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Siaxandai
Siaxandai
10 Nov 2023, 01:15 #
Blackmail for a good cause. Only Kim can do that.
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Cry_to_Heaven
Cry_to_Heaven
17 Nov 2023, 00:01 #
Nacho, my God, I'm worried about him as a member of my family! T____T
But look at the case of Kim and Jimmy/Saul on Howard's drain is physically unpleasant. I hope this isn't a story arc for these characters for the whole season, because compared to Nacho's survival and Lalo and Gus' cases, it's very, very weak. Well, there is no respect for Kim at all.
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Пьяный_ёжик
Пьяный_ёжик
17 Nov 2023, 05:44 #
@Cry_to_Heaven: It was stupid to write about Kim and Jimmy, but I agree with what, Nacho and Lalo were favorite characters.
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Cry_to_Heaven
Cry_to_Heaven
17 Nov 2023, 12:26 #
@Drunken_ezhik: Since when has personal opinion become nonsense, I wonder? If someone's opinion about the development of the characters does not coincide with yours, this does not mean that you or the interlocutor are stupid.
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Пьяный_ёжик
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17 Nov 2023, 15:16 #
@Cry_to_Heaven: And it's hard to argue. I just love Kim, a cool character!
Don't pay attention, it's just me, with a fool.😃
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Arkasha696
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28 Nov 2023, 00:31 #
Why did they leak Nacho (tried)after all, he can really turn them in?some kind of nonsense, as well as the fact that no one there had seen Lalo's corpse and thought that he was dead
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olekolegovich
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28 Nov 2023, 09:30 #
@Arkasha696: They gave Nacho a gun and told him to shoot anyone who came in. The expectation is that the twins will come, he will immediately start shooting at them, they will kill him in a shootout. Not a very reliable plan, I agree.

Lalo specially helped with the teeth of a man who looks like him. I replaced my jaw scans at the clinic with his. Then he killed, set fire to the corpse and planted it at home. Therefore, the examination showed that it was him, because of the coincidence of the teeth.
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