@anabeltesfaye: at the age of 16, I was even afraid to take an art book instead of a history textbook, because every 5 minutes they came in and checked on me with a bang (and I was an excellent student). And they forbade closing the door- and why close it ((this is also about the vacuum cleaner at 8 am on Saturday in your room. I would like to remember all this for the future, understanding how a teenager perceives it.
@Mysterious-007: Oh, I'm hugging you. but at least you had your own room, I just dreamed about it (but I was never really controlled, and it was useless, as soon as I started to panic and everyone grabbed my head) in fact, it's very funny that I, as a person who does not want children, know about the existence of literature about the child's psyche and upbringing, and people who want them and start them directly, it feels like they came out of the woods yesterday and consider little people their property
The most interesting thing is that Ginny calmly asks her mother to tell her how to give a blowjob, but she can't tell what's going on in her head. It's strange, of course.
That's how Georgia presents herself. Does she discuss this kind of problem? No. And if she hears the word "therapy," she won't even listen. But does she discuss the topic of sex? Yes, indeed. So Ginny adjusted to the circumstances🤷🏼♀️
On your birthday, I'm giving you my birthday. They're so cool when they're together. And Joe, how I love him. He is worthy of love, what a pity that he is not with Georgia
@Ksuuuuu: I wanted to write the same comment, only instead of a cannon bomb. Georgia is so cool (if you omit the fact that she is a cold-blooded killer). Just bravo to the actress, the screenwriters, the casting team.
Oh, well, finally this shkolota was rubbed about their problems, the whole gang is assembled😆🎉 Ginny and Georgia have a lull in their relationship so far ... I hope not before the roof storm, something like this should probably be expected :/
God, they are teenagers, they are literally 16 years old, at this age, only a few out of a million think about other problems. All they care about now is studying, adapting to the modern world, searching for themselves and quarreling with friends (even if they are stupid, at this age everything is perceived with hostility). That's exactly what the whole series is about, I don't understand what expectations you're building.
I'll just say one thing: what a wonderful father Paul will be. God. I am touched by him and his attempts to establish relations with Ginny and Austin. Very nice, that's right very. And his is an attempt to be a "strict" father, honey. 😅❤️
I'm really rooting for a couple of Paul and Georgia, to be honest. That's how much I'm tired of all these complicated relationships and unrequited love. This is "likes don't like." No. Sorry. Joe is sorry, of course, everything is fine, but still she can be seen in a happy relationship. And to change the Gender to Joe just because he loves her is nonsense. As in all movies and TV series, I always tell myself: "You are to blame for your feelings yourself, not your object of sighing." And if he comes to her with his "I love you", then it will be real nonsense. I don't approve of this. Everywhere. Also in life. If a person is in a happy relationship, you simply have NO right to get in there. I really hope Joe will be more reasonable. 💕
Gini has such a cool mother , why can't she open up to her and talk? and a loving and understanding father, but she behaves as if she doesn't have the attention of her parents. A strange habit of hurting myself, and that means I want to be normal. Well , you don 't have ordinary parents , what 's wrong with that . Both parents try their best for two , even stepfather Paul , tries to join the family and be a second father 😌
@Leisa: both of her parents are infantile and do a lot of things that harm their child's psyche. And Georgia will also ruin her future, remember about the credit history.
Her father was not around for most of her life, Georgia moved chaotically, changed husbands and lovers, Ginny changed schools. You underestimate the sense of stability and security that a child and a younger teenager need. Chaotic, fickle parents provide a child with constant anxiety due to the inability to control what is happening to him. Selfharm in this case, it seems to me, is an attempt to regain control not only over your emotions, but also over your body and life. About normality. Teenagers strive to integrate into society, there are many contradictions, they vividly demonstrate their individuality and "dissimilarity" from the rest, but still strive to be within the group in order not to become an outcast and somehow join it. Ginny, because of the family situation, does not quite fit into the world of this city, where all families seem to be written off from the description of a "normal, typical family."
everything is so simple for you, straight from the category of "do you have asthma? But lol, there's so much air around, breathe" it would be cool if all mental problems were solved just by talking and saying well, just stop! but, alas, this is not so, it is a long way and a tremendous work
The scriptwriters are trying out new pairs, it seems. Joe and Cynthia? There is a feeling that they are being brought together, although this is a completely unexpected couple. And certainly not at this moment in Cynthia's life, no matter how hard it was for her. And, apparently, Max and Silver?
It's funny to watch Paul trying to create an image of a strict but loving father for Georgia's children. I hope that there will be no overreaction and they will have a good relationship without feeling that this is "another mom's boyfriend."
I'm glad for the girls that they finally reconciled, MEND is back together 😀
So many interesting moments... From funny to rzhachny, Sweet and sincere... And the ending with a panic attack...🙄 Not a series, but an emotional swing🙈
I really like the way Ginny's anxiety is shown, I really feel it ((a huge secret has fallen on her, and even if everything is fine in relationships with her peers, then terrible thoughts still come up alone, from which it takes your breath away and it becomes impossible to escape.
It looks like borderline personality disorder + traumatic situation (murder). E and in general reactions to situations such as in prl Sometimes panic attacks just happen. And she's got some disturbing thoughts, that's it.
@MilinKot: well, if you haven't had this) on the contrary, they really respond to me, because this condition is really described close to the real one.
On the contrary, it hits me every time. She couldn't hold back her tears when she said, "I feel really bad." I want to hug everyone who doesn't feel stable and well. Guys, there's life beyond the anxiety line, too. I'm telling you for sure.
@abel-berg: I'm not saying that this doesn't happen, I'm saying that in my opinion, she starts having attacks for no reason. This one is just my opinion.
@MilinKot: Um, is it okay that a panic attack is a sudden and often, I emphasize, gratuitous attack of anxiety. If this has never happened to you, it does not mean that it does not happen (I speak as a person who has had unreasonable panic attacks since the age of 8) And the phrase "my opinion" cannot be used here when you are writing nonsense without even understanding the issue.
@MilinKot: What do you mean, "for no reason"? she is left alone, she has insomnia, she has nothing to be distracted by (there are no friends and a guy nearby, and music, dancing, makeup, etc. do not help to get rid of thoughts, as shown in the series), so she begins to dig into her thoughts and logically catches anxiety / panic attack.
@MilinKot: She feels guilty for what her mother did. Because my mother killed for Ginny. And she says there's blood on her hands. She is afraid that it is transmitted genetically and she too may become a murderer. there is no reason here and now. But if you live in fear and guilt, then at some point it reaches a peak point and presses you down.
And why put a clown smile? Panic attacks are a serious problem, and yes, most often they are, as you say, gratuitous, but their consequences are very noticeable. At the moment of a panic attack, the heart seizes, it becomes stuffy, then cold, there is a feeling of suffocation, the inability to inhale or exhale air, great fear (often, they say, you will die, mom will die, the floor will fall under your feet, and other horrors that seem impossible), you are overcome by emotions and it seems that you are ready do anything to make it stop. You shouldn't discount other people's health problems so much. All the best to you, it's good that you didn't feel that way.
It's a pity that Georgia thinks therapy is nonsense, Paul is right about Austin, you need to be more attentive to him, in general, Paul would make a very good father.
And I would like the three of us to be friends, and Max to walk around all by herself and realize that she was acting like a selfish bitch. And I soooo like Joe, a very sweet and pleasant guy, looks like a black Labrador, such a cutie.☺️
@Gizm0: Yes! Max needed to be taught a lesson. Otherwise, she made her bob eyes too easily and asked for forgiveness, even though she had staged a whole harassment before that. Even if the girls had reconciled, Ginny didn't have to invite her over, but stay quietly with Marcus.
Thanks to this episode, I remembered why I watch this series. No, really, in those episodes there was just too much drama and endless showdowns. Everyone has already said about Joe, but how sorry Hunter was in this episode. It's clear that you can't control your feelings, but in this episode I just saw what a cool guy he is. I hope that he will outgrow his feelings for Ginny and meet a girl who really suits him. However, Marcus has also changed a lot this season, has grown up and become more serious. If I didn't really like Ginny and Marcus' relationship last season, then this year my feelings are starting to change. It feels like Ginny's going to mess up with him this season, but maybe it won't be that bad. Ginny reconciled with Max more plausibly and less clumsily than with her mother. Although Maxine was clumsy here, her mood changes incredibly quickly. But the cool thing is that Georgia and Ellen's friendship has returned, I like their friendship the most in the series. It makes my heart bleed for Paul. I'm sorry about Joe, but I get the feeling that Paul is really going to be cast for him this season, which I don't like at all, because Paul is really the man of my dreams, I would marry someone like that myself. And with Georgia, they look fantastic together, and with Joe, it seems to me that he will constantly just look at her with puppy eyes and do without question everything she says. That is, the usual parasitic relationship in which Georgia parasitizes another man. But this is not felt with Paul, he also gently but surely fights for his point of view with her. Ginny still doesn't arouse sympathy, everything is stable here. I do not know why, although the topic of her condition is quite serious, but for some reason I cannot believe in the performance of this actress, even though she is a very beautiful and unusual girl.
The more I watch this season, the more I think that damn, guys, pay attention to Marcus! At least just talk to him, because no one talks to Marcus about Marcus at all!!!Not Ginny, not her parents, not her twin sister, and he's obviously not all right. Perhaps that's why he's almost always so emotionless and took the news of the murder so lightly.
That damn thing, well, everything seems to be fine already. She made up with her mom, with her friends too, with a guy in love, and still she can't calm down. Paul is a wonderful man, you can see how he wants to establish a relationship with children. I think the costume designer likes Max.
Georgia's conversation scene with Marcus and blowjob lesson - fire, laughed 😂😂😂
Max was forgiven too quickly. She didn't deserve it. And they gave her a discount at the expense of her birthday
At the end of the episode, when Ginny started thrashing around on the bed, I started screaming out loud, "What the fuck is wrong with you again?" "What are you missing?"
You've made up with your mom, you've made up with your friends, you've officially started a relationship with the guy you're in love with. But no, we suffer anyway. OK, maybe I'm a bitch. But I don't understand why she feels so guilty. It's not like she's that empathetic. And then it feels like this Canny guy was better than Paul and was like a second father to her. Yes, it's stressful to find out such a secret about your mother, but you seem to have discussed everything. And even if she feels the burden, supposedly because of her mother's words that she did it for her, it freezes me. You just have to let yourself be happy, but no, people like Ginny will always choose to suffer.
And yes, Marcus has captured my heart this season. Perhaps the scriptwriters listened to the criticism of his image in season 1, because in this he opens up with more and more pleasant sides.
Seriously? She knows that her mother killed a man because of her. Even if you don't feel any psychological problems here as an adult, then add a tumultuous cocktail of hormones from a 16-year-old teenager.
I don't understand people who don't understand Ginny. This is a natural result of the upbringing that Georgia was able to give her. Yes, she wanted the best, yes, you can admire how she skillfully gets out of all situations, yes, she gave the child the "happy" life she dreamed of, but these are all external attributes. Ginny is now living a normal life, but according to her memories, she participated in thefts, in lying to her mother to social services, God knows what else, she was always an accomplice to all her crimes, and now she sees herself as an accomplice to murder, because her mother did it all "for her" again. At the same time, all this tinsel "normality" gave Ginny clear moral boundaries, from her education and from books, and unlike Georgia, she knows what is wrong, she has self-reflection and moral guidelines (adjusted for adolescence, of course). And it probably turns out to be such a bad split personality. And all these comments about Georgia doing anything for her child are such bullshit, she's doing it all for herself and her dreams, she doesn't see Ginny as an independent person, only an alternative fate for herself. I don't know how many people would be able to accept that their parent is a murderer if they knew this about their family. And how much it would affect the psyche. Why everyone expects Ginny to swallow it all and be happy and carefree, I don't know
@daliyasha: She was not offered to give up her daughter, it might have been necessary to arrange custody for adults, but she would have received an education, Georgia would not have starved, they would have been taken care of. In the series, Zane's relatives are shown as adequate people.
@Zlaja_buka: I guess Georgia didn't go into details, she was just scared. Parents are adequate, but overbearing, having received custody, they would raise Ginny according to their own rules, and Georgia is a control freak.
The end of the episodes is just something! It was so emotional, too, the way Ginny tried to hide behind the fact that everything was fine, even by calling a psychologist.
I don't like the fact that Meng is back, they're so toxic to each other, and Max isn't a real friend just because she apologized after seeing them together.
Now Ginny has decided that her parents' sins are hers too. Shine. God gave me brains, but he didn't give me instructions on how to use them. To be honest, if I worried about every wrongdoing of my parents, I would most likely already be either in a nuthouse or in the next world. Any adequate teenager sooner or later realizes this and begins to inspire himself with the truth: "I am not my parents." Ginny loves to suffer and wants to suffer and adds to herself and adds. I feel sorry for Joe all the time, but then again... he didn't even try to talk to Georgia from the word at all. Why? Because there wasn't a good time? It's so amazing, but if you keep silent, then the time will never present itself. Again, the golden truth.
About Marcus and Ginny's relationship... You can only drink here without clinking glasses. Two people with a lot of psychological trauma and problems who drive themselves into a relationship and thereby condemn themselves to suffering. Of course, I understand that they are both moving towards self-destruction, but damn, maybe you can finish yourself off without each other's help? And yes, a special "thank you" for all these unsexy scenes that make you want to slam the laptop lid shut. I understand that teenage sex and self-knowledge are an integral part of life, but, I'm sorry, they are 16 years old, at this age you can learn a lot (everything) from the Internet, scientific literature and communication with peers. Yes, my God, let's be honest, even at the age of 10 children know how to go where and why. And here the fiasco is complete. + please, Ginny, buy yourself a vibrator already, because you work and get money, and your mom obviously won't punish you for having it. Otherwise, it won't be long before the vaginal injury, I'm sorry.
As for Max... Thanks for putting some brains in place. But then again, her obsession with her ex is just starting to scare. But a pretty girl appeared on the horizon, who clearly cares about Max. Maybe everything will work out for them and the brain will fall into place? It would be nice.
The most childish behavior of all the characters. Okay, Ginny and the other teenagers. But Georgia! He seems to be trying to be on the same wavelength with teenagers, but in fact it turns out that puberty is just playing in the ass. This is just ridiculous. Most likely, she has problems related to the fact that she had to grow up early and raise a child. And instead of just talking and telling 100% of the truth to each other, there are more omissions. As if it's easier for them to communicate on the topic of sex and relationships than to say what's inside.
Well, finally! how nice it is to look at romantic teenage love) wonderful feelings at the end of the pain , how realistic and vital everything is this season
One of the most adequate characters in the series. He sincerely tries to help and reach Georgia and treats her tricks with humor. And this is despite the fact that his parents are against this union.
I wouldn't want him to just turn out to be a ticket to a good life for her. And I hope Georgia doesn't drag him into her murky business.
Why doesn't anyone talk about Max and this costume girl, she seems very cute, I hope Max finally gets rid of this obsession with Sophie, opens his eyes and pays attention to her!
Georgia did a great job, put the burden of her problems on a child with an already destroyed psyche, burdened her with secrecy, instilled a sense of guilt and duty, and coped👌 I like the way the series tries to show that this is not normal on Georgia's part through Ginny's monologues, which, unfortunately, are misinterpreted and regarded as whining. Georgia is sorry, she is broken, she has a lot of fears inside and she needs help and protection herself. But because of her actions and denial of everything, it somehow does not work out to sympathize with her fully. Apparently this is intentionally done for contrast. Although at times she has some glimpses of awareness of her mistakes.
It may seem that J and J have a close and trusting relationship, but this is not the case, Ginny has a much closer relationship with her father, who is at a distance. And the relationship with Georgia is exclusively according to her rules.
I disagree with some comments about Zion being infantile. Yes, he is weak in his relationship with Georgia, but otherwise he is very much an adult: he took up his life, lived it, found himself, has his own occupation and a clear goal to which he is going, looking for stability and is not afraid of close relationships and responsibility, does not allow Georgia to manipulate herself like the others. Yes, he wasn't around, but he hasn't lost touch, is ready to support and shows interest in Ginny's life. And it's Georgia running from him, not him running from her. It is difficult to be around children if the other parent with custody is inadequate. In the end, it is to him that Ginny goes.
The mayor hasn't figured out what he's in for yet, and Joe deserves something better, if you look at this whole situation, I even liked their heartfelt conversation with Cynthia. And so, there were a lot of funny moments in this series)
By the way, flashbacks with young Georgia are very similar to flashbacks with a young Smurf in Animal kingdom.
I'm upset that they've reconciled, because in general, Ginny doesn't fucking deserve friends at all. she constantly lies and throws tantrums about everything, devalues the problems of others and generally has no interest in the lives of even close people. A disgusting character
In the end, she has a fit of such schizoitism, she feels so bad. If she went to Afghanistan, Somalia or Syria, where a person's life is worth little, she would quickly be brought to her senses by reality. She sits well-groomed, well-fed, pampered, and wails.
Of course, a truce is great, everything was so close and on the surface. But now "drama queen" is Ginny. I'm trying to put myself in her shoes, and I don't think that under the circumstances, I would betray and condemn my mother.
And this mayor bothers me, it's kind of murky. He proposed too quickly, joined the family, and turned a blind eye to Georgia's lies about credit cards and check discrepancies. I do not share the general delight
Discussing blowjob techniques with mom... That's what I understand - we've made up. Finally, the issue with Hunter was closed, we talked calmly, discussed everything like adults, and were very pleased. And we made up with Max, too, it's good. The conflict was simply made out of nothing. It's not even a question for the scriptwriters, it's just that Max behaved like a fool, almost to the point of hating Ginny. The story with Georgia's husband begins to overgrow unpleasantly with meat, if the case is given a go, it can come out as a result.
I can only think about the printing technique that this girl has! (In the beginning, where she makes a T-shirt). I'm terribly jealous! It's very expensive! Where did the schoolgirl get it from?
Discussion: Season 2, Episode 4 Join the Discussion
126a very good reminder that even if a person looks happy, things can be very bad inside :(
in fact, it's very funny that I, as a person who does not want children, know about the existence of literature about the child's psyche and upbringing, and people who want them and start them directly, it feels like they came out of the woods yesterday and consider little people their property
They're so cool when they're together.
And Joe, how I love him. He is worthy of love, what a pity that he is not with Georgia
Carbon monoxide moment:
Markus was coming out of the closet and sat down to smoke on the path.
Ginny and Georgia have a lull in their relationship so far ... I hope not before the roof storm, something like this should probably be expected :/
I'm really rooting for a couple of Paul and Georgia, to be honest. That's how much I'm tired of all these complicated relationships and unrequited love. This is "likes don't like." No. Sorry. Joe is sorry, of course, everything is fine, but still she can be seen in a happy relationship. And to change the Gender to Joe just because he loves her is nonsense. As in all movies and TV series, I always tell myself: "You are to blame for your feelings yourself, not your object of sighing." And if he comes to her with his "I love you", then it will be real nonsense. I don't approve of this. Everywhere. Also in life. If a person is in a happy relationship, you simply have NO right to get in there. I really hope Joe will be more reasonable. 💕
About normality. Teenagers strive to integrate into society, there are many contradictions, they vividly demonstrate their individuality and "dissimilarity" from the rest, but still strive to be within the group in order not to become an outcast and somehow join it. Ginny, because of the family situation, does not quite fit into the world of this city, where all families seem to be written off from the description of a "normal, typical family."
it would be cool if all mental problems were solved just by talking and saying well, just stop!
but, alas, this is not so, it is a long way and a tremendous work
Joe and Cynthia? There is a feeling that they are being brought together, although this is a completely unexpected couple. And certainly not at this moment in Cynthia's life, no matter how hard it was for her.
And, apparently, Max and Silver?
Ginny and I
Marcus is a great fart 🤣
Whatever Georgia has done in the past, she is a fool as a mom! Especially how happy she was that her daughter threw a party))
And how I like to look at Ginny and Marcus, they are so beautiful 😍😍😍
A great series!!!
I'm glad for the girls that they finally reconciled, MEND is back together 😀
Not a series, but an emotional swing🙈
I love you, Virginia Miller✨
It's so sweet..
Sometimes panic attacks just happen. And she's got some disturbing thoughts, that's it.
And the phrase "my opinion" cannot be used here when you are writing nonsense without even understanding the issue.
It's a pity that Georgia thinks therapy is nonsense, Paul is right about Austin, you need to be more attentive to him, in general, Paul would make a very good father.
I'm really happy for them.
It was funny when Marcus's mom came into their room and sat between them. 😂
In the beginning, Maxine just 🤮
But then Ginny finally opened her eyes!
Everyone finally made up, but it just feels like something's going to happen after that, that everyone's going to lose their mind again...
Marcus this season 😍
I'm afraid Ginny will ruin it again...
And I soooo like Joe, a very sweet and pleasant guy, looks like a black Labrador, such a cutie.☺️
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- Yes
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Max was forgiven too quickly. She didn't deserve it. And they gave her a discount at the expense of her birthday
At the end of the episode, when Ginny started thrashing around on the bed, I started screaming out loud, "What the fuck is wrong with you again?" "What are you missing?"
You've made up with your mom, you've made up with your friends, you've officially started a relationship with the guy you're in love with. But no, we suffer anyway. OK, maybe I'm a bitch. But I don't understand why she feels so guilty. It's not like she's that empathetic. And then it feels like this Canny guy was better than Paul and was like a second father to her. Yes, it's stressful to find out such a secret about your mother, but you seem to have discussed everything. And even if she feels the burden, supposedly because of her mother's words that she did it for her, it freezes me. You just have to let yourself be happy, but no, people like Ginny will always choose to suffer.
And yes, Marcus has captured my heart this season. Perhaps the scriptwriters listened to the criticism of his image in season 1, because in this he opens up with more and more pleasant sides.
In the series, Zane's relatives are shown as adequate people.
Go smoke with my mom and tell me.
Oh my God, this episode is just full of bomb quotes from the very first shots 😂😂😂
I feel sorry for Joe all the time, but then again... he didn't even try to talk to Georgia from the word at all. Why? Because there wasn't a good time? It's so amazing, but if you keep silent, then the time will never present itself. Again, the golden truth.
About Marcus and Ginny's relationship... You can only drink here without clinking glasses. Two people with a lot of psychological trauma and problems who drive themselves into a relationship and thereby condemn themselves to suffering. Of course, I understand that they are both moving towards self-destruction, but damn, maybe you can finish yourself off without each other's help?
And yes, a special "thank you" for all these unsexy scenes that make you want to slam the laptop lid shut. I understand that teenage sex and self-knowledge are an integral part of life, but, I'm sorry, they are 16 years old, at this age you can learn a lot (everything) from the Internet, scientific literature and communication with peers. Yes, my God, let's be honest, even at the age of 10 children know how to go where and why. And here the fiasco is complete.
+ please, Ginny, buy yourself a vibrator already, because you work and get money, and your mom obviously won't punish you for having it. Otherwise, it won't be long before the vaginal injury, I'm sorry.
As for Max... Thanks for putting some brains in place. But then again, her obsession with her ex is just starting to scare. But a pretty girl appeared on the horizon, who clearly cares about Max. Maybe everything will work out for them and the brain will fall into place? It would be nice.
how nice it is to look at romantic teenage love) wonderful feelings
at the end of the pain
, how realistic and vital everything is this season
One of the most adequate characters in the series.
He sincerely tries to help and reach Georgia and treats her tricks with humor.
And this is despite the fact that his parents are against this union.
I wouldn't want him to just turn out to be a ticket to a good life for her. And I hope Georgia doesn't drag him into her murky business.
Georgia is sorry, she is broken, she has a lot of fears inside and she needs help and protection herself. But because of her actions and denial of everything, it somehow does not work out to sympathize with her fully. Apparently this is intentionally done for contrast. Although at times she has some glimpses of awareness of her mistakes.
It may seem that J and J have a close and trusting relationship, but this is not the case, Ginny has a much closer relationship with her father, who is at a distance. And the relationship with Georgia is exclusively according to her rules.
I disagree with some comments about Zion being infantile. Yes, he is weak in his relationship with Georgia, but otherwise he is very much an adult: he took up his life, lived it, found himself, has his own occupation and a clear goal to which he is going, looking for stability and is not afraid of close relationships and responsibility, does not allow Georgia to manipulate herself like the others. Yes, he wasn't around, but he hasn't lost touch, is ready to support and shows interest in Ginny's life. And it's Georgia running from him, not him running from her. It is difficult to be around children if the other parent with custody is inadequate.
In the end, it is to him that Ginny goes.
The mayor hasn't figured out what he's in for yet, and Joe deserves something better, if you look at this whole situation, I even liked their heartfelt conversation with Cynthia.
And so, there were a lot of funny moments in this series)
By the way, flashbacks with young Georgia are very similar to flashbacks with a young Smurf in Animal kingdom.
I love him.