@ktistinaaa: yes, thank you, I've already noticed, there are also a few episodes in the voiceover, I hope that the season will please either with a gorgeous plot or too stupid
@olya_loui: My heart was breaking for Ginny the whole episode. It was very triggering, especially when Georgia talked like my mother. Yeah. But Ginny played brilliantly.
It is obvious that Ginny went to the father with her mind. The fact that he didn't tell Georgia about selfharm to be on her guard is just irresponsible. Thank you for at least making an appointment with a specialist.
Agree. I understand that he was afraid that Ginny would move away from him (or close down altogether), but it's bad to keep silent with the same attacks from her mother. Although, everyone here is so nervous and on edge that you won't understand how best to present it all to them
@Ney: Well, actually their decision was influenced by the way Georgia talked about therapy. With such an attitude, she would hardly have taken Ginny's problems seriously, and certainly would not have sent her to patience. and if she had known about therapy, she would probably have been sarcastic about it periodically, which would hardly have helped Ginny. so, to be honest, in this case, the decision to keep silent, although not definitely the best, is not the worst either.
If he had, he would have lost the trust of his deeply traumatized daughter forever. Maybe he just didn't want to knock the already difficult ground out from under his child's feet. She's scared, he's scared. No one knows what to do to fix it.
It's kind of boring for now. That Ginny and Georgia are more infuriating than they cause any sympathy, they cook each in their own thoughts and experiences and only break out at each other.
@Nog: well, what else can you expect from two people who are severely injured (and one of them is injured because of the other)? their relationship cannot be perceived from the point of view of healthy ones.
I'm still for my mother, if my mother's boyfriend had groped me, then I would have been glad if he had died and we would have pocketed all the money. Where are so many psychos from? But I feel sorry for the mayor, although I think she wouldn't try to kill him, because he's cute.
About the girls' quarrel. I think this is quite a circus. What is Max offended about? I don't understand at all. If I had a twin brother, I wouldn't care who I fuck with, even if it was my girlfriend.
Because of the acting, it doesn't feel like the conflicts have been sucked out of the finger. Perhaps because there is a lot of crying, but it does not seem superfluous, because you believe in the characters. I thought Ginny and her brother were going to join a gang, but they just ran away to their father. I didn't understand this stuff with the jacket and the photos at the end of that season. In general, it's kind of crazy so far, but I more or less like a pair of twins with curly hair. I wonder if the mother will be imprisoned and how the conflicts that the directors themselves inserted will be resolved 🤔🤔🤔
@niayzovazyra: It actually sounds very beautiful, it really has a deep meaning. I really didn't understand why you had to take the jacket of your mother, whom you hate? So I thought Ginny would like to get back the Georgia she loved and wasn't afraid of. I hope you spelled the name correctly. And the jacket is the personification of those memories with her mother that she misses.
I don't remember all the subtleties of season 1, but Max was offended not because Ginny slept with her brother, but because she hid it. And at the same time, she was messing with the second guy, and everyone saw that everything was serious on his part. I.e. Ginny could just share it with Max. And don't fool everyone's heads. Therefore, to some extent, Max's behavior is understandable. Although in general, everything is there with that still pripiz*y)
It's not possible to sympathize with Ginny from the word at all. But she clearly has problems with her head, I hope that she will heal and be more normal, because the second season has already started, and she causes nothing but irritation. No, in order to have a normal conversation with Georgia about everything, she arranges endless psychosis for everyone. Max is also kind of head over heels sophisticated, it's not normal that she's so worried about who her brother sleeps with. It seems to me that even that ex-boyfriend, behind whose back Ginny was playing tricks, gets over it easier. There is such a strong emphasis on the wedding of Georgia and Paul that there is an increasing feeling that it will not happen. Most likely, right in front of her at some solemn event, Georgia will be arrested for the murder of her ex-husband
@LianaSkyfall: Talk to Georgia? a dead number. Georgia translates any conversation to the topic of her beloved. It's impossible to talk about anything serious with her at all.
Why should a child take on the role of an adult and talk to a parent at all?) That's what a parent is for, to contain the child's feelings and help him cope with them. But since Georgia has mental health problems herself, there's not much hope here.
@OliverVillain: A parent cannot keep an eye on a child, especially a teenager 24 by 7. And Ginny has half of the problems purely because she is a bad and spoiled teenager herself, and half because she does not share them. I am not a psychologist, but such people who believe that others should understand their problems at the level of telepathy, as far as I remember, even have their own name. And this is a very big problem that needs to be worked out, because otherwise it will be hard for her to live with such illusions, which selfharm has become a side effect of. Georgia has the right to a certain psychosis, because she really had a difficult childhood, after which she is still doing well, that she can keep 90% of her current life on the positive side. And she went to a lot of lengths in her life just for Ginny, worked hard at work, made a deal with her conscience. Thanks to her, Ginny had only one really serious problem in life, that Mom and Dad weren't together. That's why Ginny doesn't like it, because she's really just a spoiled teenager, while Georgia jumps out of her pants and fishes out as best she can alone to maintain that standard of living for her own, first of all, children, so that, again, they are not the same outcasts at school.
P.S. Of all the teenagers, I feel sorry for Abby the most now. She was treated before that, like "what is, what is not, it doesn't matter", and now her parents are getting divorced at home, her best friend threw a tantrum out of nothing and made her an outcast, with this wrapping of thighs, too, a sad psychological problem, especially since she was also bullied about it.
@LianaSkyfall: and besides, she is trying to get out of the situation, at least just by reconciling with her friends, while everyone is just causing a scandal from scratch, but she is sent
It seems to me that you are judging from the position of an adult and forget that Ginny is a teenager. during this period, it is very difficult to accept yourself and the world in general, and then you also need to be an ideal adult, does it work?
@karina_istomina: Yes, there is no need to be an ideal adult, she chooses this role herself, instead of talking openly with her mother about what is bothering her. Somehow she demonizes her mother too much. And as for me, you're not welcome at all. 🤷🏼♀️
Oh, Virginia and Georgia's relationship in this episode is so identical to my relationship with my mother. That crazy Georgia look... I see him every day, it's already become scary, it's so similar. Girls who have a bad relationship with their mother will find it difficult to watch😢
I hardly remembered the first season...and it turns out that 2 years have already passed 🙄 The continuation of the story of Ginny and Georgia is still catchy from the first episode...
sorry, but I can't((( why are Ginny and Max so annoying and stupid, teenagers in this series seem to have 47 chromosomes. I was a teenager myself a few years ago, but neither I nor my friends were psychically discouraged. only the adult generation is interested in viewing it
@-Damons__blood-: I don't understand why Max wasn't sent to hell with her claims, but started making excuses. What kind of fun is it to pry into someone else's personal life?
— Oh shit. She looks terrible. — Be kind. How would you look if your husband was dying? — I looked amazing.
I agree with the comment above that almost all teenagers in this series are annoying, and yes, it's more interesting to watch adults. Zion was pleased in this episode, finally Ginny will turn to a therapist, and it's good that in this series for teenagers (mostly) they talk about self harm, because it's actually very serious
On the contrary, it seems to me that the real behavior of teenagers has finally been shown in the series. I think we're just used to a bunch of series where teenagers talk and act like adults. Teenagers are teenagers because they behave stupidly and in proportion to their level of development. This is normal.
"Come on, take a look at each other later!" - Marcus and Ginny Milahi. The chemistry is insane. At least she has some support. and Zion was very supportive, but he didn't tell me about selfharm in vain, a mother should know such things.
And I'll probably be one of those who shed tears at the scene of Ginny's conversation with her father, when she confessed to self-harm, and the moment with the panic attack:( I'd say it's pretty hard if you're familiar with it and haven't learned how to handle it yourself.
@neewdaay: It was a very strong scene. I remember watching PA and not understanding what to do to calm the person down? It's funny that back then we went through everything with water and laughter mixed with tears, and self-harm is generally a difficult thing. It is very important to raise such topics. I'm glad that the series showed how to support a person at the moment of a crisis.
Although I don't quite remember some of the details of the last season, it's just as interesting to watch the second one, you immediately get involved in what's happening!!!👍💥 I feel Ginny will surprise you with her behavior, however, as well as Georgia, the rattling grumbling girls, what can I take from them🙈😁
God, Max is behaving terribly, I hope they'll come to their senses soon and talk, it's impossible. It's a pity for Abby, she didn't deserve this, and her parents are getting divorced((
@dyadennn: none of them are sure what exactly they know and are afraid of the reaction/ consequences when the secret becomes clear, but it will become and it will be a powerful booooom
Zayn is still a good father, it surprises how he once left the family, apparently due to age. In general, if you choose a side, I'm still more on the side of Georgia than Ginny
@Ana_stasia_: He was young, he has a strong-willed mother who puts pressure on him; a father who needs to be matched, and Georgia is not the easiest to communicate with. So it was logical. Now he is more mature and is better able to defend the borders.
"Ginny and Georgia" is definitely not the series I've been looking forward to continuing. I actually vaguely remember what the first season was about and how it ended in the first place. But one thing has remained the same for me - Ginny and her friends both infuriated and infuriated. Basically, if her story had ended exactly as we were shown in the first scene, I wouldn't have been too upset. Choosing a side, I'm more on Georgia's side than Ginny's. I hope that some of them will decide to sit down and talk without unnecessary people. 🥺
— Georgia, this homemade cranberry stuffing is fabulous. — Thanks. Old family recipe. — Good, she cooks. — Yeah, she cooks. Apparently. 😆
Yeah, Ginny doesn't arouse any sympathy... Demonizing a mother for killing an asshole who groped and climbed up to her daughter, how clever... plus these claims against her father, like, "I told you that I have problems with my head, and you, such a bastard, began to think how to help me, Ugh!" they look very stupid. In short, she's a disgusting character, at least in season 1 and episode 1 of season 2, that's for sure)))
In the first season, I was completely on Georgia's side. In the same season, I have a dual attitude towards both. Both are equally sympathetic (surprisingly, even Ginny) and both are even hated.
Georgia causes hatred by making Zion look bad every time. That sounds familiar to me. It's not okay to blame a father and make a child's father look bad. Whatever you have there, DON'T DO THAT. What you've had in the past IS YOUR PROBLEMS, not the child's. He's her father, first of all. The parent. Just like the mother. And Georgia freezes me out to the point of horror. The second thing that infuriates Georgia at the moment is not the ability not to yell at Ginny. Not being able to talk to her. Yes, she's a teenager, she doesn't want to, she'll resist and all that, but damn. Just go out into the kitchen like they did and, damn it, talk WITHOUT SHOUTING. Yes, emotions, yes, angry and very upset, but shouting absolutely won't solve anything. And this envy that the child is also attracted to the second parent and categorically "no" was also very disliked. Although, when Ginny ran away, her first thought was that Georgia would give her the first number. But I don't want that right now. Just an elementary conversation. Even if it doesn't lead to anything, we have to try.
Ginny. Oh, this transitional age. It's all difficult, and you don't know what to write about it either. Her world is divided into "black" and "white", but it also has shades. Different. And not everything happens the way you want it to. Not everything goes smoothly and it's not always possible to do the right thing. I empathize with her, surprisingly, but it's still encouraging to see my mother as a monster. Yes, she's not a saint, but she's a mother. And she did everything for her. I literally did everything, it even shows in the past. I didn't sleep for a day and a half to get the money and provide for my daughter, to give her a little attention for this money. And damn, it was obvious that she understood why Georgia had killed her ex-husband, but she was still pushing her own. It was for her own sake, it is not known how her husband's infatuation would have ended. Maybe he would have had specific interests in her and would have done something with her if Georgia hadn't been there. I'm not condoning murder, it's terrible, but there are shades to it. Different. Contradictory ones.
Zion. It's also complicated. I like him as a character, as a father, as an adequate person. But the fact that he didn't mention the self-harm of their common child... damn, there are shades here. It seems clear that he wants to get closer to his daughter, because if he told her, Ginny might stop trusting him, but still. Although, Georgia doesn't like psychologists and would probably consider it as "nonsense" and "I'm a mom, I'm your friend and assistant." I've had it myself. Although, it was possible to tell her in secret without her daughter and ask her not to talk about it. Just keep me posted.
It is unlikely that Georgia would have been able to keep information about her daughter's selfharma in herself. I would have told you right away, or I would have gone straight to find out) Ginny infuriates with her complicated and eternally dissatisfied offended cheeks. If you were so businesslike and understanding, well, go tell your mother about everything, and don't sit there with a sour face. Here, all teenagers are shown to be somewhat problematic. I can't remember at my age that I or my friends had such transitional stupidity. Although everyone grew up in different families, with their own problems. And somehow we survived this period normally. And then it's like, oh, Ginny, well, this is a teenager, and so on and so forth, like it's okay to be such a fool. She's been pissing me off since season 1, and she's still pissing me off.
I thought that the season would start with a hospital or some other consequences, for some reason I remember that at the end of the 1st there was a motorcycle accident.
And yes, for so long, some moments of season 1 have already been forgotten.
@SashaMoscow: In the first season, Marcus had a bike accident. And at the end of season 1, Gini left with her brother, there were no accidents at the end.
I don't remember season 1, remind me what kind of a red-haired woman whose husband is dying? I remember there was a conflict between her and Georgia, and what... slipped my mind
@borakhea: Cynthia Fuller, she fought the election against the mayor and discovered that Georgia was embezzling money. But she managed to cover everything up.
@id90254354: The fact of the matter is that her problems did not start from scratch , but at least 2-3 years ago . We do not know for sure how many years self-harm began, when she began to understand / experience what was happening ... Someone eats sweets , someone drugs , and someone like this ...
@lady_kana: Yeah, my mother killed my stepfather, who groped me, how can I continue to live with this thought? I'm going to roast my super-snowy black skin, because no one understands how hard it is to be black in this white world and blah blah blah. My grandmother also turns against my mother, "you need to communicate more with blacks, otherwise you don't know your roots." Georgia is doing her best
@id90254354: people hurt themselves to stifle their emotions. Physical pain distracts from emotional pain. Look at how she exhaled when she finished burning herself, but she "let go" a little. ...And not because "it's hard to be black and blah blah blah"
@Anemiika: Isn't "it's hard to be black" an emotional pain? They've already talked about it in all the TV shows and movies. "Poor blacks, they were oppressed, they were killed, their hair is not like that, they are not treated like that," etc. They have no problems anymore, except to focus on their "other" skin
@id90254354: but there are no such scenes in the series. They are treated well and everyone says hello. There are no problems with racism in this city, so the problem has been identified incorrectly.
Besides, I don't think you have the right to devalue feelings. Yes, the fact that a black person can put pressure on him, but on your part this is disrespect and the same racism. We all understand perfectly well that the best life in the world is still for white men. The fact that you devalue the problems of class and racial inequality, I do not consider it tactful, at least to write it here. Under the series, the creator of which is a country that used to have huge problems in this area. Read To Kill a Mockingbird, a small work, but maybe you'll understand this problem better.
@Парапраксис: How is it that there are no such scenes? Her speech was about "I'll read books by black writers," where her paternal grandmother talked about Georgia's dimwits regarding "black" parenting. This is a TV series and I will write my opinion, and comments are open for that. In Russia, Russians were slaves, but no one focuses on this, as African Americans in the United States do now. I've read Mockingbird and Go set a watchman, and Servants, and what the bees are talking about, but that doesn't change the fact that they're already going overboard with their racial and class issues.
@id90254354: I agree, they go overboard with this, but they talk about it because it continues, although not in such a wild form as before. I agree that I did not command them and that they have no right to accuse every white person of the stupidity of dead people, but this is their whim. And about books about blacks, it's just a desire to find out your roots. In addition, her grandmother is an adult and has found difficult times, so she transmits knowledge and feelings to her children. No matter how far away these times may seem, they were only a couple of decades ago, even less, which is why people continue to talk about it.
You're right about the comments being created to express an opinion. Then I went too far. Besides, the most interesting dialogues and arguments take place here.
Welcome to the second season of Ginny's stupidest tantrums! - Look at everything, I feel bad, why aren't you looking? - So tell me, why is it bad, how can we help? - Fuck off, you stupid people, you won't understand, I feel bad!
If I were Georgia, I'd throw her out with her clothes, since she doesn't want to live here.
@kingforthesirens: The most annoying thing is that she also drags her brother out of the house, even though he wants to live with his mother. They would send her to a hospital or some kind of camp for a short time, although this will not help her, according to the plot, a conversation is needed here, but her mother is so bad that she will kill her instead of listening!!!!
I like this series because it touches on the current issues of teenagers. I am glad that Ginny's father has more screen time, he has been more revealed as a character!
@darlo4ka0302: I only saw the under-eyes of both Ginny and Georgia, nothing more , but it seemed to me that this was part of the image. From the piled-up problems, the worries of both
Is it really the second season! Almost two years have passed... During this time, some moments and people have simply been erased from memory, barely remembered.
Oh my God, Ginny doesn't appreciate a lot of things, like Marcus, like, yeah!! She doesn't care how he feels, she's never asked about him, it's creepy.
I would understand about all of Ginny's tantrums, attributing them to mystical "adolescence," which is usually accompanied by any inappropriate hysterical egocentric behavior, but here.. damn, you literally know that your mother was raped in her youth in her own family, that she ran away to nowhere, you know what (and why, respectively) she went to protect you from the same fate - and still think that your problems are the most important in the world. this is some kind of narcissistic pathology.
I used to always be on Georgia's side, but then she pissed me off too. she understood why her daughter ran away, since she burned the plant, but she's acting like an offended mother who can't get along with a typically gloomy teenager.
I watched the first episode and somehow I don't want to watch any more. 🌚 I don't really remember what happened in the first season, but it looked much nicer than the first episode of the second...
I won't join the comments above, Ginny is just a teenager with raging hormones who found out that her mom could have committed murder. I think it's hard to wrap your head around this, even for an adult, so you can understand her behavior.
@Amelia_3315: you can understand running away to Dad. Not the piggish attitude towards everyone, the shameful tantrum with her father, who offered to help, and her disgusting command with her mother BEFORE she found out about the murder.
@id304373819: If you're talking about Cynthia (the one who wanted to become a diplomat in season 1), then nothing was said about her husband until the very last episode. After she lost the election, at the very end, we were shown how she returns home, and she has a son and a sick husband there, and he takes care of him, that's all, so you can see the story of this family this season
Ginny is so upset about her mother's actions, as if she doesn't know the reason. This is not an excuse, but at least it causes understanding. Compared to the real news, where for years the mother turned a blind eye to violence from some stepfather or even encouraged it, her reaction seems a little exaggerated.
They showed straight *typical teenage behavior*, which is very annoying. Talk to your mother about what worries her and destroys her from the inside? Noooo. Selfharm? Yeah, pliz. Well, really, it's so stupid, they had quite a trusting relationship to at least talk about it. And Georgia and Max are also not far behind in their strange behavior.
Anyway, I'm glad that the series is back, even though it feels like 5 years have passed. I hope there will be more interesting twists.
what's wrong with her eyebrows? I don't understand, I'm just not used to it, or it's not beautiful. but Marcus has changed for the better, now he's just handsome, but just aaaaaaaaaaa, there are no words
It's very difficult to show any kind of pity and sympathy for Ginny in her situation with a panic attack and self-harm, because in the first season she's still a scourge. And it doesn't seem to be any better this season either..
Oh, how I missed the characters! And Ginny's condition leaves much to be desired. I've never heard of her hurting herself. But she's been doing this for a long time! And here it's so heavy. And the mother, apparently the killer. And there's trouble with my friends. And there's some kind of misunderstanding with the guys. It would be nice if one area of life had a crack. And here there are several at once. Tin!
I watched the season in one go in a day) I've been really looking forward to the sequel and have watched season 1 seven times!!Now wait for the 3rd, and I already want to find out quickly what will happen next.
Either the break was too long, or I completely "outgrew" the Netflix romcoms with their abundance of woke propaganda, but I can't remember why I liked this series so much.
Either the break was too long, or I finally "outgrew" the Netflix romcoms oversaturated with woke propaganda, but I can't remember why I liked this series so much in the first season.
All the teenagers in this series are crazy, except Marcus.🥲 Paul and Austin are the best. How the scriptwriters managed to create such an annoying character as Ginny is a question. But they are geniuses😃
For some reason, after watching episode 1, there is no sympathy for Ginny. Yes, she started having panic attacks and self-harm. I know from the inside what it is and what it's like to experience it all, but here I would say "I don't believe it!!!" Well, she doesn't show it. In this case, it looks like a romanticization of mental disorders. Perhaps it's just that the actress couldn't convey this state correctly.
@Викторияya: I think if you need a good video, I won't be able to help you, but still, if you have any questions or want to remember something, you can write to me in a telegram. I watched season 1 before the release of the second, so if anything, I can remind you. And also to the rest, if you need to clarify something, write, I am always happy to help.
It was a pity there was no insert "in previous episodes". I don't remember what happened last season at all, except that they all had a fight and Ginny stole Marcus' bike.
@lucasscott: I really like the fact that even when they address guests in their house, they duplicate everything in sign language so that Dad can "hear." A credit, an indicator of respect and love for the father.
Can you tell me if anyone knows the name of the actress who plays Paul's mom? I watched the cast for the series on IMDb, for some reason it is not listed there. A very familiar face, I can't remember where she came from.
The first episode is awesome, I missed this series so much. I hope Ginny gets some real help, because this is a really important issue. In vain, Zayeon did not say, of course, although with her statements about psychology, she would hardly have helped in any way. I really feel sorry for Abby, I wish the girls would make up as soon as possible. Joe and Marcus are so cute😍
I'm glad to be back, but I've already forgotten everything that happened before.. Here both sides can be understood. Ginny's a teenager, and that's why she's doing stupid things. I'm glad I told my father at least. Staying alone in this state is not the best idea. Georgia is already beginning to strain with her excessive emotionality, she behaves infantile. Why don't we talk?
Ginny infuriated me the whole first season. Now I look at Georgia and I want to say, "God, shut up!"! She did everything she could to preserve her life and the well-being of her children. But she is very fixated on her truth and her kindness. How can Gini be noble for all this if she sees only one side of the coin? She needs honesty, support, and help. Real help.
I read the comments and am amazed) Ginny infuriates many people because she freaks out and "overreacts" to trifles. Um, people, she's 16)) She lives with a mentally unstable, severely traumatized mother. The second parent is too flashy and you can't rely on either of them. And the child needs it. It's not for nothing that we are shown flashbacks with little Ginny, she had a very difficult childhood. And all her mental problems did not start 2-3 years ago, but from infancy. That's how it works. All events, even small ones, are stored in the unconscious and affect us and our behavior. I don't know about everyone else, but I'm in therapy because of my difficult relationship with my mother. And I perfectly understand why Ginny doesn't know how to behave or overreacts in some situations. She doesn't know how to do it any other way, and there's no one to explain it to, because her mother doesn't know either. I sympathize with Ginny and really hope that therapy will help her. I know from experience how difficult it is to navigate the real world when the situation at home is unstable and you don't know what to expect from others. I feel sorry for Georgia too, she has an even more complicated story. But since you have chosen to use men as a way of survival, and you give birth to almost everyone, then somehow you need to grow up and be a mother. Georgia is lonely and she tried to use her daughter as a friend, but it doesn't work that way. A parent should be a parent) and let Georgia do her best to survive and give her children a better life, so far I see too much selfishness. After all, she loves Zion and would like to have a family with him, it would benefit Ginny too. But no. She succumbed to the mayor's speech about power) That says a lot, too. Pseudo girlfriends are a separate story for me) there was no strong friendship there, everyone was "friends" only while it was easy and fun. And as soon as the problems started, no one is up to girlfriends. What happened to Abby when she literally begged for help and was ignored? What happened to Ginny when she was thrown overboard by the MAND for deciding to be honest about her feelings
@OliverVillain: well, in general, maybe so, but the fact that she has problems does not make her a more pleasant character) She does not start to infuriate less from this)
@OliverVillain: I generally agree with you, but Ginny still pisses me off terribly. She finally got to a place where there is a good home, prosperity and friends. And suddenly he creates all kinds of game. Maybe it's the actress? I just don't like her, and her expression is either dissatisfied with everything in the world or a smug "look how good I am."
I still can't look at Ginny. It's extremely disgusting. All the other teenagers in the series are no better. Max was interesting last season, at least at first, but now she's just as much a slop as Ginny. But I liked this juxtaposition of Ginny's and Georgia's nightmares. In Ginny's dream, Georgia, based on Ginny's sick imagination, begins to strangle her, then Georgia's dream is her reality in which she lived. By God, I'm only watching this show for Georgia.
I would like to mention the acting of the actress who plays Georgia in her youth. The expressive facial expressions are as identical as those of an adult Georgia. 😍
that Ginny, that Max, well, this is just trash, from teenagers made the most kringovyh and devilish perosnazhiv, it's good that at least Georgia is interesting to watch
They're all so BROKEN. It breaks my heart!!! I shed a tear on stage with my father. Max is overdoing it, it really turned out to be too cruel with Abby. Georgia is a good mother, but a disgusting wife. And Marcus 💔💔💔💔💔💔
Georgia is still a creepy psychopath and she belongs in prison. Yes, she has experienced terrible things, but lynching and even more so killing a person is not an option.
While I was waiting for the second season, I completely forgot the first one, I had to partially review it before watching the second one =) I remembered why I fell in love with this series: very bright characters and the relationship between them, very much... are they real or something. You believe them. And the actors all play very well. For all its ambiguity (and for it, too), I really love Georgia, she causes some kind of completely wild whirlpool of emotions - from hate to love, a very interesting and complex character. Zion and Paul are cool too, each in their own way. Ginny is very sorry, she is clearly confused. Austin is perhaps the most sorry of all, because he is a little boy and does not understand everything, but everything that happens will stay with him forever =( I hope the girlfriends will all hang out together again, and things will get better with Marcus.
Ginny's still the same fuckin', sorry. Georgia is beautiful ❤️ Ginny's father's relatives are like this: Let her stay with you, get to know our culture, what can Georgia give her who thinks only of herself?! Are you fucking serious?! And where have you been before??!! When Georgia was eating 2 shifts, barely making ends meet? Kick-ass!
I watched season 1 specially before that. Well... we just delved into the topic of self-harm, plus we added a panic attack - and at that moment, talking to my father, I even started crying and I felt sorry for Ginny. But! A lot of big and fat "buts". Despite all this, she is terribly selfish. Georgia, of course, is also great, but Ginny has surpassed everyone in my opinion. So on the one hand, I understand that it's a shock to find out that your mother killed someone. But, fuck, you know the circumstances of the murder, and you even know about Georgia's past! And like she's afraid? Does she think she and her brother aren't safe with Georgia? Is she serious????? Georgia laid down her life for you, of course she has the right to be happy as she sees fit.
I also liked the way they talked about the topic with the "bad" and "good" parents. That for some reason, the one who raised you is most often bad, and the one who was almost never there, but he is so kind and allows what a permanent parent is not, is good. And Zayn is perceived as such a cool parent, and Georgia is an evil and selfish bitch.
I do not support Zayn's decision to keep silent about selfharma. OK, Georgia has a biased attitude towards psychotherapy. But you could talk to her separately when she's a little calmer and clearly explain that this time everything is extremely serious, but again everyone is indulging Ginny.
And in this episode, Max was terribly disappointed. The scene with Abby—ugh, it was disgusting. She really doesn't understand that friendship is not only when it's fun and good together, but also when it's bad and difficulties arise.
OK, I understand that I'm a little offended by the situation with my brother, but it's inappropriate to inflate it to such an alleged betrayal. Although it is really slightly inadequate in principle.
Actually, I'm really glad that the series is back. And yes, surprisingly Marcus seems like a pretty deep guy this time.
@tevladka Totally agrees with you. And if I can understand Ginny, then when the commentators write what a cool dad Zayn is, I'm shocked) The man literally gave up on his child, did not have a normal home, was looking for himself, and sometimes saw his daughter when he wanted to! Well, that's just a super father, everyone would like that) Yes, I understand this better than the zero father or the rapist father. But still... It's a pity that fathers are so presupposed.
Somehow this season it is especially noticeable that the actress playing the young Georgia is trying to copy the manner of acting and facial expressions of the main Georgia. Since that actress's facial expressions are really unusual, it looks like a parody on another face. 🙈🙈🙈
She probably realizes that the age when Ginny has already matured is approaching, and is trying to use facial expressions to acquire more similarities with the elder Georgia.
It's still hard for me to say anything serious about Ginny and Georgia and analyze them, at the moment they both infuriate me in their own way. But damn, how unfair they are to Abby! I can understand Max's rage towards Ginny, and that's a stretch. Well, damn, I can't figure out why she's so mad at Abby anymore. Abby had a lot of problems of her own, her parents' divorce, poor self-esteem, so Max decided to make an outcast out of her because she didn't tell about Marcus and Ginny. The motive is completely moronic
It's not right to kill someone because they're different from you. He thinks otherwise. He says otherwise. He wants the second one. So even though Georgia is cool and charming, it's not right to leave someone alive. Just not right.
It's not right to kill someone because they think differently from you. Says otherwise. He wants something different. So even though Georgia is cool and gripping, it's not right to take someone's life.
I like Paul and his brother, as well as Ginny's father. And Georgia. No matter how cold-blooded a killer she is, the actress is so charismatic that you get high from any appearance of her on the screen))
Apparently, the whole season will have to be blown away by the fact that 95% of commentators seriously love and justify the trashy psychopath. It seems to explain a lot about... hmm... events outside the series. Tolerance for such types is in our blood. A complex story, personal strength and charisma are certainly impressive. But damn...
The season has just started, and Ginny is already infuriating more than ever. Her dad is generally 20 out of 10, did the job and left.. if I had known that my child was mutilating himself, I would have found a way to stop him, but then he just clapped his hands and fell into the fog. Ugh, just ugh. Max is hammering away with mountains of teenage maximalism, and Marcus is just hammering away. Well, it's simple from the bottom of my heart, you can't say anything.... I really hope that after watching this season, my assessment of the series will not lose another star.
Max has become so unpleasant🤨 no sympathy, no understanding of course, I understand that there may be something offensive about this, but damn.. It would have been possible to discuss everything a long time ago, especially with Abby.
And there's still the question of why Gini won't even try to talk to her mom.. If everyone sat down and talked, it would solve many problems.
For aggression towards his younger brother because he doubted which side he should be on, Ginny wanted to punch his mother or sister. So what if her skin is darker, I think she 's more into it than everyone else Everyone except the teacher clearly didn't care. The navel of the earth is just
Ginny's selfishness is endless. Yes, you're offended by your mother, but to see your brother tearing up between the two of you. You can compromise your principles for at least a day, but no.. She's suffering, she's the happiest and the poorest. Although in fact, my brother has more reason to be offended by Georgia.
@fanami_fan: don't forget that she's a child, and the fact that her mother is her killer has crushed her mentally. Austin is her brother, not her son, and his mother should sacrifice for him. And why Ginny should put her suffering on the back burner. She is a 15-year-old teenager, not his mother, who should protect and protect him.
Max is a fool, that's the truth. I wasn't offended by what, and I wasn't sure why.
Ginny is not causing positive emotions yet. I'll see what happens next.
Actually, I don't quite share the excitement of this series. The first season was normal, you can't say that anymore. Before episode 5, it was just fine, and then it got a little worse.
It's funny that only two weeks have passed in the story, and Austin and his red-haired classmate have matured so much in appearance))) In general, it feels like Joe is the only mentally normal person in Welsbury.
There are a lot of accusations against Ginny, but in reality there are questions for Georgia, which many rationalize. Everything that's wrong with Ginny is the consequences, she's desperate, but the main thing is that she's already starting to realize her problems and talk about it, the conversation with Marcus played an important role here (he's doing great here) and it's good that there's a father who can help, it's amazing that she was able to trust him after all. It is worth noting her initiative to deal with Austin's incident at school, rather than turn a blind eye to it, like Georgia, here she already assumes the role of an adult, which in general she should not do, it is the mother's care. Georgia has a lot of problems and a difficult past, but that doesn't absolve her of responsibility. The way she behaves, in general, and with children is the behavior of an absolutely immature person. She's also angry that she recognizes herself in Ginny's behavior, and it pains her to accept it. She lives in denial that the problem is with her, and not with anyone else, and skepticism about psychotherapy only confirms this. The past hadn't gone away, it was still with her wherever she went.
In my opinion, there is a difference between Ginny and Georgia in this episode, let's look further.
The series actually raises interesting, important and deep topics, I didn't even expect it to be like this when I started watching. It comes out quite multifaceted. The situations are exaggerated, of course, it's still a series, but nevertheless.
On the positive side, I like how the scenes with their father in Marcus and Max's house lighten up the atmosphere) And Joe, the nicest guy.
In the first season, Ginny was terribly annoying, but it still causes pity - she has so many thoughts, so many fears in her head, and in fact none of the parents wants to listen properly. Let's see what happens next.
Georgia is an outspoken psychopath. The moment with Cynthia in the cafe is proof of that. zero empathy and co-participation. Well, Ginny was and still is an abomination. Marcus is a rag
Having a 16-year-old at home, I fully support Georgia. All teenagers are nasty. I hate puberty. Georgia gave them a happy childhood in which they didn't even notice the horror they were living in. These dancing in the living room and free-wheeling appeared to hide some bad moments and became happy moments
It is very difficult to watch scenes with Ginny, the most ungrateful (this is just my opinion) Even from her memories, it can be concluded that Georgia gave everything to her, did everything that depended on her. Help me watch the rest of this season if Ginny behaves like this all season …
I don't understand why Ginny is so angry with Georgia, she did everything for her children and did not allow her daughter to have the same thing happen to her and her stepfather.
@yhi86: Well, you must admit, it's scary when you realize that a mother is capable of cold-blooded murder? Other mothers just get divorced and leave. It's like this. Moreover, this stepfather was only thinking and did not have time to do anything to cause such a mother's rage and desire for revenge. And if something gets dug up on her, both Jeanie and her brother will be left without a mother when she sits down. It's hard to realize this.
It's so sad to look at Ginny's father when he finds out and realizes the horror of the situation about his child..at the same time, it is impossible to share with those with whom it is necessary to discuss this moment..
Ginny looks absolutely devastated, it hurts to look at her. Moreover, on the one hand, you seem to understand that she really has problems, but how disgusting she behaves at times. Max is also kind of inadequate, even finished, I would say. I don't understand how a person can be so disrespectful and break all possible ties like that.
I don't know what's wrong with me. The series is terribly addictive, but I'm just burning out for the second season. Ginny can just calmly sit down and talk to her mom, say that her mom is having problems because of all these secrets, I can't live like this, tell me at least part of it, it's hard for me to live, it's like I don't know you. And don't yell like a victim all the time. If my daughter had yelled at me like that, I would have cursed her, said that "you're too young to get involved in adult affairs." So it's okay to pull that she's afraid of her mother, and she yells at her, she yelled at her father....
Zion is a good father. Like Georgia, she's a good mother. Yes, they're not perfect, but they're both trying. Ginny has obvious mental problems🤔 She and her mother are much more alike than she thinks.😅
I'm becoming more and more convinced that Georgia has a problem with empathy, she has something of a maniac. Like there's a choice to kill/not kill, cheat/not cheat, and she'll choose the former. I'm just yelling at people who say yes, she did everything right. 😁
Discussion: Season 2, Episode 1 Join the Discussion
231I am very concerned about Ginny's condition, and I hope that helping her will really help.
1 episode of the average
I'm even sorry this season.
About the girls' quarrel. I think this is quite a circus. What is Max offended about? I don't understand at all. If I had a twin brother, I wouldn't care who I fuck with, even if it was my girlfriend.
Because of the acting, it doesn't feel like the conflicts have been sucked out of the finger. Perhaps because there is a lot of crying, but it does not seem superfluous, because you believe in the characters. I thought Ginny and her brother were going to join a gang, but they just ran away to their father. I didn't understand this stuff with the jacket and the photos at the end of that season. In general, it's kind of crazy so far, but I more or less like a pair of twins with curly hair. I wonder if the mother will be imprisoned and how the conflicts that the directors themselves inserted will be resolved 🤔🤔🤔
Somehow she demonizes her mother too much. And as for me, you're not welcome at all. 🤷🏼♀️
Girls who have a bad relationship with their mother will find it difficult to watch😢
The continuation of the story of Ginny and Georgia is still catchy from the first episode...
— Be kind. How would you look if your husband was dying?
— I looked amazing.
I agree with the comment above that almost all teenagers in this series are annoying, and yes, it's more interesting to watch adults. Zion was pleased in this episode, finally Ginny will turn to a therapist, and it's good that in this series for teenagers (mostly) they talk about self harm, because it's actually very serious
I'd say it's pretty hard if you're familiar with it and haven't learned how to handle it yourself.
I feel Ginny will surprise you with her behavior, however, as well as Georgia, the rattling grumbling girls, what can I take from them🙈😁
In general, if you choose a side, I'm still more on the side of Georgia than Ginny
Ginny seems like it's already too much, stop freaking out like that)))
so far in this series, only Paul and Marcus have pleased
— Georgia, this homemade cranberry stuffing is fabulous.
— Thanks. Old family recipe.
— Good, she cooks.
— Yeah, she cooks. Apparently. 😆
Georgia causes hatred by making Zion look bad every time. That sounds familiar to me. It's not okay to blame a father and make a child's father look bad. Whatever you have there, DON'T DO THAT. What you've had in the past IS YOUR PROBLEMS, not the child's. He's her father, first of all. The parent. Just like the mother. And Georgia freezes me out to the point of horror.
The second thing that infuriates Georgia at the moment is not the ability not to yell at Ginny. Not being able to talk to her. Yes, she's a teenager, she doesn't want to, she'll resist and all that, but damn. Just go out into the kitchen like they did and, damn it, talk WITHOUT SHOUTING. Yes, emotions, yes, angry and very upset, but shouting absolutely won't solve anything.
And this envy that the child is also attracted to the second parent and categorically "no" was also very disliked. Although, when Ginny ran away, her first thought was that Georgia would give her the first number. But I don't want that right now. Just an elementary conversation. Even if it doesn't lead to anything, we have to try.
Ginny. Oh, this transitional age. It's all difficult, and you don't know what to write about it either. Her world is divided into "black" and "white", but it also has shades. Different. And not everything happens the way you want it to. Not everything goes smoothly and it's not always possible to do the right thing. I empathize with her, surprisingly, but it's still encouraging to see my mother as a monster. Yes, she's not a saint, but she's a mother. And she did everything for her. I literally did everything, it even shows in the past. I didn't sleep for a day and a half to get the money and provide for my daughter, to give her a little attention for this money. And damn, it was obvious that she understood why Georgia had killed her ex-husband, but she was still pushing her own. It was for her own sake, it is not known how her husband's infatuation would have ended. Maybe he would have had specific interests in her and would have done something with her if Georgia hadn't been there. I'm not condoning murder, it's terrible, but there are shades to it. Different. Contradictory ones.
Zion. It's also complicated. I like him as a character, as a father, as an adequate person. But the fact that he didn't mention the self-harm of their common child... damn, there are shades here. It seems clear that he wants to get closer to his daughter, because if he told her, Ginny might stop trusting him, but still. Although, Georgia doesn't like psychologists and would probably consider it as "nonsense" and "I'm a mom, I'm your friend and assistant." I've had it myself. Although, it was possible to tell her in secret without her daughter and ask her not to talk about it. Just keep me posted.
* Yes, it's stuffy*
Ginny infuriates with her complicated and eternally dissatisfied offended cheeks. If you were so businesslike and understanding, well, go tell your mother about everything, and don't sit there with a sour face. Here, all teenagers are shown to be somewhat problematic. I can't remember at my age that I or my friends had such transitional stupidity. Although everyone grew up in different families, with their own problems. And somehow we survived this period normally. And then it's like, oh, Ginny, well, this is a teenager, and so on and so forth, like it's okay to be such a fool. She's been pissing me off since season 1, and she's still pissing me off.
And yes, for so long, some moments of season 1 have already been forgotten.
Someone eats sweets , someone drugs , and someone like this ...
...And not because "it's hard to be black and blah blah blah"
Besides, I don't think you have the right to devalue feelings. Yes, the fact that a black person can put pressure on him, but on your part this is disrespect and the same racism. We all understand perfectly well that the best life in the world is still for white men. The fact that you devalue the problems of class and racial inequality, I do not consider it tactful, at least to write it here. Under the series, the creator of which is a country that used to have huge problems in this area. Read To Kill a Mockingbird, a small work, but maybe you'll understand this problem better.
You're right about the comments being created to express an opinion. Then I went too far. Besides, the most interesting dialogues and arguments take place here.
- Look at everything, I feel bad, why aren't you looking?
- So tell me, why is it bad, how can we help?
- Fuck off, you stupid people, you won't understand, I feel bad!
If I were Georgia, I'd throw her out with her clothes, since she doesn't want to live here.
, but it seemed to me that this was part of the image. From the piled-up problems, the worries of both
The manner of speaking, making faces, smiling, dressing.
Just a delight🙈
I can't get enough of the men in this series, they're just gorgeous.😍🔥
Max is really infuriating! God, what's wrong with her? The feeling that Marcus was her property and had to report his every move to her.
Ginny, talk to your mother!
Obviously, she protects her children and loves them madly.
And all these stories can have a second side to the coin.
And of course, MARKUSSSSS GINNYII❤️❤️❤
How I missed God!
I used to always be on Georgia's side, but then she pissed me off too. she understood why her daughter ran away, since she burned the plant, but she's acting like an offended mother who can't get along with a typically gloomy teenager.
I don't really remember what happened in the first season, but it looked much nicer than the first episode of the second...
After she lost the election, at the very end, we were shown how she returns home, and she has a son and a sick husband there, and he takes care of him, that's all, so you can see the story of this family this season
They showed straight *typical teenage behavior*, which is very annoying. Talk to your mother about what worries her and destroys her from the inside? Noooo. Selfharm? Yeah, pliz. Well, really, it's so stupid, they had quite a trusting relationship to at least talk about it. And Georgia and Max are also not far behind in their strange behavior.
Anyway, I'm glad that the series is back, even though it feels like 5 years have passed. I hope there will be more interesting twists.
Paul and Austin are the best.
How the scriptwriters managed to create such an annoying character as Ginny is a question. But they are geniuses😃
I know from the inside what it is and what it's like to experience it all, but here I would say "I don't believe it!!!" Well, she doesn't show it. In this case, it looks like a romanticization of mental disorders.
Perhaps it's just that the actress couldn't convey this state correctly.
I watched season 1 before the release of the second, so if anything, I can remind you.
And also to the rest, if you need to clarify something, write, I am always happy to help.
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I watched the cast for the series on IMDb, for some reason it is not listed there.
A very familiar face, I can't remember where she came from.
I hope Ginny gets some real help, because this is a really important issue. In vain, Zayeon did not say, of course, although with her statements about psychology, she would hardly have helped in any way.
I really feel sorry for Abby, I wish the girls would make up as soon as possible.
Joe and Marcus are so cute😍
Here both sides can be understood. Ginny's a teenager, and that's why she's doing stupid things. I'm glad I told my father at least. Staying alone in this state is not the best idea.
Georgia is already beginning to strain with her excessive emotionality, she behaves infantile. Why don't we talk?
I feel sorry for Georgia too, she has an even more complicated story. But since you have chosen to use men as a way of survival, and you give birth to almost everyone, then somehow you need to grow up and be a mother. Georgia is lonely and she tried to use her daughter as a friend, but it doesn't work that way. A parent should be a parent) and let Georgia do her best to survive and give her children a better life, so far I see too much selfishness. After all, she loves Zion and would like to have a family with him, it would benefit Ginny too. But no. She succumbed to the mayor's speech about power) That says a lot, too.
Pseudo girlfriends are a separate story for me) there was no strong friendship there, everyone was "friends" only while it was easy and fun. And as soon as the problems started, no one is up to girlfriends. What happened to Abby when she literally begged for help and was ignored? What happened to Ginny when she was thrown overboard by the MAND for deciding to be honest about her feelings
But I liked this juxtaposition of Ginny's and Georgia's nightmares. In Ginny's dream, Georgia, based on Ginny's sick imagination, begins to strangle her, then Georgia's dream is her reality in which she lived. By God, I'm only watching this show for Georgia.
Max is overdoing it, it really turned out to be too cruel with Abby.
Georgia is a good mother, but a disgusting wife.
And Marcus 💔💔💔💔💔💔
I hope the girlfriends will all hang out together again, and things will get better with Marcus.
Well... we just delved into the topic of self-harm, plus we added a panic attack - and at that moment, talking to my father, I even started crying and I felt sorry for Ginny.
But! A lot of big and fat "buts". Despite all this, she is terribly selfish. Georgia, of course, is also great, but Ginny has surpassed everyone in my opinion.
So on the one hand, I understand that it's a shock to find out that your mother killed someone. But, fuck, you know the circumstances of the murder, and you even know about Georgia's past! And like she's afraid? Does she think she and her brother aren't safe with Georgia? Is she serious????? Georgia laid down her life for you, of course she has the right to be happy as she sees fit.
I also liked the way they talked about the topic with the "bad" and "good" parents. That for some reason, the one who raised you is most often bad, and the one who was almost never there, but he is so kind and allows what a permanent parent is not, is good. And Zayn is perceived as such a cool parent, and Georgia is an evil and selfish bitch.
I do not support Zayn's decision to keep silent about selfharma. OK, Georgia has a biased attitude towards psychotherapy. But you could talk to her separately when she's a little calmer and clearly explain that this time everything is extremely serious, but again everyone is indulging Ginny.
And in this episode, Max was terribly disappointed. The scene with Abby—ugh, it was disgusting. She really doesn't understand that friendship is not only when it's fun and good together, but also when it's bad and difficulties arise.
OK, I understand that I'm a little offended by the situation with my brother, but it's inappropriate to inflate it to such an alleged betrayal. Although it is really slightly inadequate in principle.
Actually, I'm really glad that the series is back. And yes, surprisingly Marcus seems like a pretty deep guy this time.
But damn, how unfair they are to Abby! I can understand Max's rage towards Ginny, and that's a stretch. Well, damn, I can't figure out why she's so mad at Abby anymore. Abby had a lot of problems of her own, her parents' divorce, poor self-esteem, so Max decided to make an outcast out of her because she didn't tell about Marcus and Ginny. The motive is completely moronic
It's not right to kill someone because they think differently from you. Says otherwise. He wants something different. So even though Georgia is cool and gripping, it's not right to take someone's life.
Her dad is generally 20 out of 10, did the job and left.. if I had known that my child was mutilating himself, I would have found a way to stop him, but then he just clapped his hands and fell into the fog. Ugh, just ugh.
Max is hammering away with mountains of teenage maximalism, and Marcus is just hammering away. Well, it's simple from the bottom of my heart, you can't say anything.... I really hope that after watching this season, my assessment of the series will not lose another star.
no sympathy, no understanding
of course, I understand that there may be something offensive about this, but damn.. It would have been possible to discuss everything a long time ago, especially with Abby.
And there's still the question of why Gini won't even try to talk to her mom..
If everyone sat down and talked, it would solve many problems.
So what if her skin is darker, I think she 's more into it than everyone else
Everyone except the teacher clearly didn't care.
The navel of the earth is just
Although in fact, my brother has more reason to be offended by Georgia.
Max is a fool, that's the truth. I wasn't offended by what, and I wasn't sure why.
Ginny is not causing positive emotions yet. I'll see what happens next.
Actually, I don't quite share the excitement of this series. The first season was normal, you can't say that anymore. Before episode 5, it was just fine, and then it got a little worse.
In general, it feels like Joe is the only mentally normal person in Welsbury.
Georgia has a lot of problems and a difficult past, but that doesn't absolve her of responsibility. The way she behaves, in general, and with children is the behavior of an absolutely immature person.
She's also angry that she recognizes herself in Ginny's behavior, and it pains her to accept it. She lives in denial that the problem is with her, and not with anyone else, and skepticism about psychotherapy only confirms this. The past hadn't gone away, it was still with her wherever she went.
In my opinion, there is a difference between Ginny and Georgia in this episode, let's look further.
The series actually raises interesting, important and deep topics, I didn't even expect it to be like this when I started watching. It comes out quite multifaceted. The situations are exaggerated, of course, it's still a series, but nevertheless.
On the positive side, I like how the scenes with their father in Marcus and Max's house lighten up the atmosphere) And Joe, the nicest guy.
Abby is so sorry((
And Ginny was desperate..
I can't, Marcus, just wow🔥
(In season 2, he seemed to have matured, both externally and internally)
Cynthia felt so sorry, as if she had already stopped "resisting" And "fighting" with Georgia.
Marcus is just a thrill, he's changed so much!
Even from her memories, it can be concluded that Georgia gave everything to her, did everything that depended on her.
Help me watch the rest of this season if Ginny behaves like this all season …