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Duration: 57 min.
Released: 18.12.202218.12.2022 15:00
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3 season
s03e05
s02e07 - Æsahættr
s03e01 - The Enchanted Sleeper
s03e02 - The Break
s03e03 - The Intention Craft
s03e04 - Lyra and Her Death
s03e05 - No Way Out
s03e06 - The Abyss
s03e07 - The Clouded Mountain
s03e08 - The Botanic Garden

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LizaShalun
LizaShalun
18 Dec 2022, 22:44 #
Will someone explain why these episodes are marked as already released in mayshous, if in fact this is not the case, I say this with confidence since I watch the series on HBO and there are no new episodes there
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KateSwan66789
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18 Dec 2022, 23:33 #
@LizaShalun: probably due to the fact that today in the UK all the remaining episodes have been released on BBC iPlayer
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LizaShalun
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18 Dec 2022, 23:45 #
@KateSwan66789: thank you, I'll know
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dmitryveliky
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18 Dec 2022, 23:45 #
@LizaShalun: the series has the BBC One channel listed in the card. Since all the episodes came out on the BBC today, then they all came out and the series closed. The dates of the series are set according to the channel that is indicated in the card, this is how it works with myshows :)
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LizaShalun
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18 Dec 2022, 23:51 #
@dmitryveliky: until this moment I thought that the series was from HBO... thank you for enlightening haha
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dmitryveliky
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18 Dec 2022, 23:56 #
@LizaShalun: I understand this is some kind of co-production. I believe the BBC channel is listed due to the fact that initially the premiere of the first season took place there a day earlier. Actually, as well as the second one. It was with the third that they came up with some kind of strange system with a gradual release on HBO and a complete one on the BBC in one day.
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LizaShalun
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18 Dec 2022, 23:58 #
@dmitriveliky: ahaaaa clear, thank you!
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EmilD
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19 Dec 2022, 16:14 #
@dmitryveliky: well, formally, this is a British TV series produced by HBO, so in Britain it goes to the BBC, and in the USA on HBO, for some reason, it was with the third season that they decided to show the series with a delay, apparently because of the World Cup
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pondgirls
pondgirls
19 Dec 2022, 07:10 #
The acting of Ruth Wilson > > > > all
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K2isOn
K2isOn
08 Feb 2023, 22:08 #
Here everyone writes about Ruth (naturally not groundlessly), and I, especially after this series, want to mention the actor who plays MacPhail's Father aka Hugh aka the President's Father - what a facial expression he has, what emotions! You believe in this maniacal worship of higher powers, but at the same time a total denial of your own sinfulness. In each of his scenes I admire him (although I hate the character to the point of rage), and I am generally silent about their joint scenes with Ruth - the quintessence of talent.
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Amelenka
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07 Jan 19:58 #
@K2isOn: он, кстати, в реальной жизни отец Дафни Кин, которая играет Лиру
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unicornpower
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19 Dec 2022, 11:20 #
I really like all the moments in the afterlife. Atmospheric, somewhat philosophical, creepy (especially harpies). Roger, Lee, it's nice to see old faces!
And the world of mulefa! It's cool shown, they're so funny)
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rinaaa_28
rinaaa_28
19 Dec 2022, 11:43 #
Has the series already been released?
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unicornpower
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19 Dec 2022, 12:00 #
@karinamalina_19: Yes, the last 4 episodes of the original have already been released)
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rinaaa_28
rinaaa_28
19 Dec 2022, 12:02 #
Ahhh I see😅
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Giltias
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15 Jan 2023, 20:59 #
@unicornpower: the world of mulefa (like chitagatze) this is exactly what I imagined 15 years ago when reading) but the design of the mulefa themselves is somehow not very good. Overgrown tapirs turned out to be some kind of)
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top_me_kirby
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19 Dec 2022, 16:06 #
don't play with this woman😡
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kobiii
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19 Dec 2022, 18:34 #
@top_me_kirby: It's interesting that this Macphail, who is hunting for Lyra, is played by Will Keen, the father of Daphne Keen (Lyra). At the same time, for the entire series, they never seem to have crossed paths
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mivavi
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21 Jan 2023, 20:35 #
@kobiii: oh, thank you so much for the info!
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juliakey
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10 Mar 2023, 15:51 #
@kobiii: and Ma Costa is Azriela's wife, by the way))
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kot_nastya
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01 Jun 2023, 23:34 #
ex-wife)
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kobiii
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19 Dec 2022, 18:56 #
I liked the world of the Mulefa and how Mary learned from the language. In an ideal world, where the series has 4 seasons, the entire episode would be devoted to this. The situation is the same with the afterlife.

Lyra is very similar to the book in some moments - when she saw Lee, when she left Pan in the last series, when she first saw the angels and Yorick before that, and I like their connection with Will.
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Kristinapevneva
Kristinapevneva
20 Dec 2022, 20:47 #
And what's the joke with the alethiometer? Lyra could use it in the afterlife, why did she need these guesses if she could always find a way out
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Chris_Foster
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21 Dec 2022, 23:47 #
@Kristinapevneva: I didn't understand either. in the book, she asks the alethiometer at the beginning where they should go and what will happen to the dead when they find themselves in another world
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fly_to
fly_to
02 Jan 2023, 18:49 #
this season there are more inconsistencies and changes than in the previous ones
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TatianaBlunt
TatianaBlunt
20 Dec 2022, 21:17 #
The world that Mary got into is straight waaaaa…

How cool it was to see Lee Scoresby 😍
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Rin_Rin
Rin_Rin
20 Dec 2022, 23:09 #
I remember reading the 3rd book and the story of the afterlife struck me to the depths of my soul, everything was very cool in the series ... and what is the world of mulefa worth!👍
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full_fusion
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21 Dec 2022, 20:26 #
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Chris_Foster
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21 Dec 2022, 22:25 #
Naturally ROARED IN A VOICE at the appearance of Scoresby 😭
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IMPERIAL
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22 Dec 2022, 14:46 #
I thought Father Gomez would not be sent anywhere along the book path. Otherwise, the bomb is already ready and it would be stupid to send him to look for Lyra. And they somehow decided to deal with the temptress (Mary) at the same time. And then why is she all so vicious? Motive, as they say, in!) Well, okay, this is just quibbling with artistic assumptions.

Well, an interesting, not bookish, bomb explosion. Metatron himself decided to bang it, saving the audience from the book piano in the bushes. Which, in my opinion, is very good.
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fly_to
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02 Jan 2023, 18:50 #
and this change, by the way, was beneficial, otherwise it was not clear what happened there with the dust later
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IMPERIAL
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03 Jan 2023, 03:32 #
So I don't mind :) I liked many of the assumptions in the series, and some did not. But there are still more advantages.
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kiichiro
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21 Feb 23:09 #
@IMPERIAL: а как было в книге? Если это не спойлер, конечно)
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22 Feb 15:09 #
@kiichiro: как в книге произошел взрыв? В принципе и там и тут образовалась щель в результате взрыва. Так что для сериала это не спойлер. В книге все-таки бомба взорвалась. И попала точно в цель - в место среза волос лиры. А как этого избежали наши главные герои? Тот самый рояль: шаман Джопари который "волшебным" образом узнал об опасности (реально волшебным, потому что это никак не объяснили. Ну шаман он, что с него взять). Сказал Уиллу срезать короткие волосы с головы Лиры - откуда была взята прядь - открыть любой мир и поместить туда эти волосы. После этого произошел взрыв и образовалась бездна.
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kiichiro
kiichiro
23 Feb 00:05 #
@IMPERIAL: спасибо! Все-таки сравнивать кино и книги всегда увлекательно)
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Freyja89
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23 Dec 2022, 19:34 #
Lee!!!! Mom's pie!! ❤️❤️❤️ finally showed the Mulefa "on wheels" ☺️ the afterlife is terrible.. And of course, Marissa 😈😍
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dezmond774
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24 Dec 2022, 09:22 #
A very strange Magisterium - when it is not necessary to have 100 people around the cardinal, when it is very necessary - 2 unfortunate guards.
The plot plays along with all its might, exposing the largest organization as useless.
Of course, at the moment when the chief priest arranges a ritual to kill Eve with a divine cannon, everyone found more important things to do. Lunch, for example.
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vampironok666
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11 Jan 2023, 13:28 #
@dezmond774: but I liked that the stage was prepared for this in the series: a couple of episodes ago, Marisa told Azriel that they (the Magisterium) would kill Lyra without honors, without ceremony, just dirty and kill her. In the book, the phrase was written exactly the opposite, they say, they will make a holiday out of it! And in fact, they were still killed more secretly than not.

Plus, don't forget about heresy: parallel worlds in Lyra's world are heresy, for which you can be executed. And cutting off daemons is a huge stress, in Bolvangar, such processes were managed, including people already with cut-off daemons, so that there were fewer emotions, fewer breakdowns, etc. Not every churchman will be able to look at this, not every churchman can see the father-president reveal his secrets and intentions.
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K2isOn
K2isOn
08 Feb 2023, 22:17 #
I specially revised this moment, you probably heard something wrong: Marisa tells Azriel everything, as in the book - "The Magisterium will kill her with pomp, and ceremony, and prayers, and lamentations, but they will kill her"
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vampironok666
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08 Feb 2023, 23:22 #
@K2isOn: I wonder if I remembered it wrong or was it in the voice acting) Okay, then I deceived myself)
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viziterka
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29 Jan 2023, 13:19 #
As far as I understand, the president -father secretly conducted this experiment, not everyone was privy to it, since it is based on heresy. That's why there was no one.
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IraShikun
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25 Dec 2022, 02:30 #
I didn't understand something, how did they want to launch this car with a bomb, cutting off the connection between Marissa and her daemon? A splash of dust also happens when a child's connection is broken, the entire first book and the first season were devoted to this. 🤔
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IMPERIAL
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26 Dec 2022, 02:15 #
@IraShikun: No, energy is basically released when a daemon is separated from a human. It's just that the whole plot was that the parents separated the children and experimented with them (although adults were also separated). And Azriel himself, both in the book and in the series, said that when a "person" is separated, a huge amount of energy is released. Human. Not necessarily a child.
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Tarja89
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29 Dec 2022, 16:24 #
@IraShikun: it was the children who were experimented on, because they wanted the dust to never "stick" to them, it begins to do something at a transitional age. And they would have remained "sinless"
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IraShikun
IraShikun
29 Dec 2022, 16:27 #
And why did Azriel take the child, Roger, then?
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Tarja89
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29 Dec 2022, 17:22 #
@IraShikun: I don't remember that, maybe more energy came out that way
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fly_to
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02 Jan 2023, 18:53 #
because he sent for the baby, and then Lyra came. he was freaking out, even though he is the father of the year, but he understood that separation is not a healthy thing, and with his devices you can not survive at all. and then Roger comes out from behind Lyra's shoulder, Azriel has a puzzle - you can use another child! in fact, it doesn't matter what kind of child will be
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Tarja89
Tarja89
29 Dec 2022, 16:25 #
I didn't really understand why the bomb without "guiding hair" still flew into the world of the dead, but it missed.
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fly_to
fly_to
02 Jan 2023, 18:55 #
she kind of already found a target there and was aimed at it. well, I explain it to myself this way :)
and since the exact coordinates were gone (the Lira was in motion), the bomb hit somewhere where the Lira was, say, half an hour or an hour ago
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Special_Death
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14 Jan 20:58 #
@Tarja89: как я поняла, координаты бомбы сбились из-за вмешательства всевышнего. нам показали как цель на мониторе начала сбоить. а когда упала гильотина, разорвав связь отца-президента с деймоном, бомба запустилась по рандомным координатам, но видимо, в нужной локации
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Tarja89
Tarja89
29 Dec 2022, 16:29 #
In general, I liked the series. But there are still a lot of aimless wanderings, where the book heroes had both a plan and a direction.

They completely ignored Lyra's ability to compose, deceive, in the book it was just important that the harpies needed real stories, not fictions, no matter how fascinating they were.
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Moonacre
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03 Jan 2023, 19:00 #
Oh, and harpies, and mulefa! 😍
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christinapirs
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04 Jan 2023, 00:56 #
I was insanely glad to see Lee, but this whole topic with the underground kingdom and "help Roger (who is dead, HELLO)" just doesn't make any sense (maybe everything was somehow EXPLAINED in the books), but here it's like complete nonsense from the series "well, I suddenly thought that a fucking bad the deadly idea must be fulfilled, what it will lead to and whether we will die in the process is, of course, NOT IMPORTANT to us"
but even more nonsense when Lyra is without superpowers, JUST a child in fact, and the coolest thing, considering that the knife does not work yet, she still decided to promise everyone that everyone will be pulled out they are right now - decided to rewrite the laws of the dead and the living (and HOW in her opinion + Willa the DEAD will live again among the living - this does not lend itself to logic at all). Azriel of course said that there is no death, the Ruler invented it and he will destroy it, but Lyra is NOT AWARE of this at all
Also explain who is in the topic, I remember that our Miss professor aka Snake left Oxford, but it's unclear if she was told by GOOD or BAD angels to become a snake? and what, in her own opinion, is her task? for now it looks like she is stupidly traveling in another world, it is unclear in search of something - until the last thought that one of these animals would become her daemon, but apparently not fate (
Well, then the series went off the scale for the stupid moments from the series: "I WON'T TOUCH MARISA," she said and turned her back to the man who could kill her - then she could just run out the door or run to free Marisa, or just look into the EYES of the fucking father-president, and so Mother Teresa blunted the result (
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vampironok666
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11 Jan 2023, 13:36 #
@christinapirs: Lyra doesn't want to help, Lyra wants to say sorry. I wrote a comment under the last series about why Lyra rushes into such adventures so easily (so far) - she has no imagination. Pullman's idea that a girl can't think of something going wrong. It's as simple as two rubles - let's go, apologize, profit. Even now, in the process of viewing the world, she should have thought that he was some kind of so-so. And it would be necessary to save everyone. But the original goal in itself was just to come and say "I'm sorry." That's so stupid, yes. Childish)

Good or bad angels talk to everyone - the answer will be at the very end (I hope). If not, then I will come back here and write))
The sticks were supposed to tell her something like "stay here in the world of mulef, while you are needed here." More allegorically, of course, but not the point. And she stayed. She has no goal, there is a purpose, which she understands roughly and poorly, but so far she is being led by the angels. She was a nun. There are no bad angels for her)
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Giltias
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15 Jan 2023, 21:04 #
@vampironok666: я бы ещё добавил, что в книжке Лире 12-13 лет на этот момент, не тот возраст, когда люди могут похвастаться особо рациональным мышлением))
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ForcedToWatchTV
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19 Mar 2023, 10:58 #
@vampironok666: т.е девочка аутист которую фиг переубедишь ака Гретта Тунберг. Если что то вбила себе в голову, все пиши пропало. Но она же главный персонаж поэтому умереть не может, поэтому ну естественно она полезет в мир мертвых. А хорошо или плохо в нем это другой вопрос, может тот мир который им не понравился является одним из этапов загробной жизни, а после скажем так смирения с тем что они мертвы и со всеми своими поступками души отправляются дальше.



































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vampironok666
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19 Mar 2023, 11:36 #
@id72145741: я слишком плохо понимаю понятие "аутизм", так что не знаю, насколько оно уместно. Вот последнюю часть предложения могу прокомментировать: нет, это не так, никакого смирения, никакого отправления дальше и светлого упокоения души после мира с гарпиями не было, увы.
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ForcedToWatchTV
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19 Mar 2023, 13:02 #
@vampironok666: ну это дальше по сюжету становится понятно на 100 процентов, до этого можно полагаться только на слова ангелов, которые могли и обманывать.
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vampironok666
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19 Mar 2023, 15:42 #
@id72145741: могли, но не для Лиры. Для неё алетиометр всегда говорит правду и даже в каком-то смысле заботится о ней
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Special_Death
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14 Jan 20:45 #
@christinapirs: мне показалось, что мать-тереза не затупила, а просто была готова умереть, хотя и очень боялась. учитывая, что отец-президент ее силой заставил работать над бомбой, вряд ли она его божьим одуваном видит. поэтому она не столько повернулась к нему спиной, сколько повернулась лицом к Марисе
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arahant
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04 Jan 2023, 20:35 #
Все сцены с Лирой хочется перематывать, ужасная фальш
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apollo_2001
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20 Mar 2023, 13:08 #
Фальшь и чрезмерный кринжовый пафос
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Mutant_Zero
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06 Jan 2023, 15:58 #
Ну раз уж Лира «Ева», то в ее сути «разрушать» привычный порядок вещей. Идти против воли «бога». Так что тема с оживить мертвых,в целом,меня не так уж и удивила.
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11831
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10 Jan 2023, 16:19 #
Действие разогналось, сериал затягивает как никогда раньше! Не ожидала, что у отца-президента(😂) хватит решимости добровольно сесть в кресло. Очень надеюсь, что Лира сможет сдержать обещание и всё-таки выведет мертвых
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vampironok666
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11 Jan 2023, 13:57 #
Только в третьем сезоне я поняла, что Доктор Купер в третьей книге мужчина с кроликом, а в сериале женщина с лисой)) Ни на что не влияет, просто забавно)
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limbo
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16 Jan 2023, 16:12 #
Менее уныло, но уныло. Первые сезоны были круче, канеш.
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camilla_foxie
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17 Jan 2023, 23:59 #
Лиии, ты ж моя шоколадка!!!
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berion87
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08 Feb 2023, 15:16 #
Отец[-президент] Дафны походу так ее и не встретит. если только не успеет попасть в мир мертвых до ее ухода. приходит такой, а ее нет и Никого нет. только гарпии и он)
а я ждал не только Ли. но и ДЖопари. надеюсь еще появится.
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juliakey
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10 Mar 2023, 15:58 #
Лира: кидается обнимать Рождера
я в этот момент: 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿

Лира и Уилл привлекали призраков нее только своими историями, но и теплом своих тел. Они не могли прикоснуться к ним, но очень этого хотели.

все сцены с Лирой почему-то стали вызывать раздражение, прям хочется перемотать
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angelnicka
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25 Mar 2023, 18:20 #
'Что я делаю? Иду за говорящим слоном..'
Не просто говорящим слоном, а говорящим слоном 'скейтбордистом'🤣
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Кайла
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09 Apr 2023, 16:32 #
@angelnicka: Эта фраза тоже прям "запала" )))
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_October_
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19 May 2023, 07:54 #
Отец года блин
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Mcmaffic
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06 Feb 19:04 #
Мало того, что Мэри самый радостный персонаж, так ещё и самый сказочный мир ей достается, хочу отдельный спин офф про нее 😂 Мне интересно конечно, в мире мертвых, обычно не действуют правила внешних миров, а тут все равно жахнуло, что я думал не произойдет и встретят ли они сына цыганки из 1с, или все про него уже давно забыли
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20 Feb 21:59 #
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