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s02e05 — The Sighted and the Seen

Foundation — s02e05 — The Sighted and the Seen

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Duration: 47 min.
Released: 11.08.202311.08.2023 15:00
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2 season
s02e05
s02e01 - In Seldon's Shadow
s02e02 - A Glimpse of Darkness
s02e03 - King and Commoner
s02e04 - Where the Stars Are Scattered Thinly
s02e05 - The Sighted and the Seen
s02e06 - Why the Gods Made Wine
s02e07 - A Necessary Death
s02e08 - The Last Empress
s02e09 - Long Ago, Not Far Away

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ArtchibalD
ArtchibalD
11 Aug 2023, 17:09 #
Intrigue
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alexxxvetr
alexxxvetr
11 Aug 2023, 20:44 #
Well, if only the intrigue that is erased from the memory of all Maples… Otherwise, the season is less intense than the first one. I hope it will still accelerate, and not in the last series)
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ghostlycreature
ghostlycreature
11 Aug 2023, 17:15 #
Of course I like it (externally) an actress who plays the queen, but I still have the feeling that she wildly overplays places. The scene with the Day came out because of this even more comical than intended.
Just when I thought it was some kind of too suspicious coincidence that Salvor had just stumbled upon her untimely lost lover in the forest on an unknown planet, Gary confirmed my guesses. But it was cruel to Salvor. I wonder what these seers have against the Foundation. 🤔
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kathrine_adams
kathrine_adams
11 Aug 2023, 20:19 #
Finally a cool series! The intrigue around the second foundation has disappeared, and what is going on in the palace! Dawn and Sunset are plotting, The Day at this time is thinking how to get away from coitus with the bride 😂 He is generally very funny in this series, behaves like a teenager)) And he seemed to be genuinely indignant because of the accusations, maybe it really wasn't him... In general, I think we still have a lot to learn about him, since he grabbed so much power, then for sure it's not for nothing.
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Tuliackbaev
Tuliackbaev
11 Aug 2023, 20:42 #
@kathrine_adams: no matter how it turned out later that the robot was the secret head of the empire all this time and stupidly used clones to distract attention from itself, hence the worn-out memories of all clones. Damn, as if later it would not turn out that the robot is actually a copy of the mind of the original Cleon.
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kathrine_adams
kathrine_adams
11 Aug 2023, 20:46 #
@Tuliackbaev: at the expense of the latter option, it would be strange, given that Demerzel sleeps with some Cleons)))) But that she personally rubs memories - I will willingly believe it!
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Tuliackbaev
Tuliackbaev
11 Aug 2023, 22:13 #
@kathrine_adams: does it surprise you that a person with SUCH an ego fucks himself?
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kathrine_adams
kathrine_adams
11 Aug 2023, 23:26 #
@Tuliackbaev: uh, yes, it surprises)) Cleons, though not the best people in the world, but the roof seems to be strong, it does not leak.
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Tuliackbaev
Tuliackbaev
12 Aug 2023, 00:04 #
@kathrine_adams: "ordinary" Cleons, yes, but the robot is far from the first thousand years old, and the current Cleons do not 100% correspond to the original.
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porco
porco
12 Aug 2023, 01:34 #
@Tuliackbaev: EMM... well.. OK. Okay, I won't spoil it.
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fb1363782
fb1363782
21 Aug 2023, 10:04 #
@Tuliackbaev: well, it seems like it is
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Kitty_Moore
Kitty_Moore
11 Aug 2023, 21:35 #
@kathrine_adams: So it seems Demerzel said that she did everything so that the tracks did not lead to him. It turns out that he ordered the murder after all. Or did I misunderstand?
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kathrine_adams
kathrine_adams
11 Aug 2023, 23:38 #
@Kitty_Moore: It can be understood that way, yes. Just the reaction of the Day confused me.
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Redopera
Redopera
12 Aug 2023, 20:51 #
@kathrine_adams:
>And seemed to be genuinely indignant because of the accusations, maybe it really wasn't him
In a dialogue with Demerzel, after an unsuccessful copulation with Sareth, the first admonishes Cleon that no roads will lead to him, she took care. To understand this as his direct involvement or concern for his safety is an open question.
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alexxxvetr
alexxxvetr
11 Aug 2023, 20:42 #
So I was waiting for Season 2... and it's already the middle of the season, but so far it's super boring
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g1287352
g1287352
11 Aug 2023, 21:19 #
Finally, both storylines have become equally interesting, for how long only
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ViktoryMartini
ViktoryMartini
11 Aug 2023, 21:50 #
I don't understand a bit - if Seldon was cloned and his consciousness was transferred to a clone, why didn't they do this to the Emperors initially? Why do clones with their own consciousnesses, even brought up according to the same program, if it would be possible to just endlessly mix the consciousness of the first Cleon into a new clone?
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ЛенчикоО
ЛенчикоО
11 Aug 2023, 23:47 #
@ViktoryMartini: but you don't need any advisers
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Damassk
Damassk
12 Aug 2023, 01:52 #
@ViktoryMartini: perhaps the problem is that a person's consciousness cannot live for so long without clouding, that's why new clones are needed that accumulate some default controlled experience, creating an imitation of the best option according to Cleon 1, when he is in his prime and Day. And it is possible that the feeling of finiteness of being should also influence the judgments of the Cleons, because they each go through some life cycles, and each make their own decisions where the Day should be a more balanced version, between a hasty Dawn and a slow or too callous Sunset.
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ajcrvr
ajcrvr
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11 Aug 2023, 22:20 #
I'm just waiting for Prime Radiant to fight back against this madam in white. :)
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Norax
Norax
11 Aug 2023, 23:42 #
And here are the beginnings of a Mule...a community of psychics!
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дуболом
дуболом
12 Aug 2023, 00:49 #
th is so slow.
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flaxman
flaxman
12 Aug 2023, 02:39 #
@blockhead: to stretch for more seasons
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Sich666
Sich666
12 Aug 2023, 15:58 #
@flaxman: Well, the story itself, in principle, allows you to shoot almost 10 seasons. This is if there are no prequels.
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Julie_Julia
Julie_Julia
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12 Aug 2023, 14:23 #
Excellent attitude before sex
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tweedlecat
tweedlecat
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12 Aug 2023, 18:56 #
The first interesting episode of the season
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gregvan
gregvan
12 Aug 2023, 19:35 #
If you omit the ending of the series, then there is something to think about. It turns out that Cleon 1 has the largest amount of memory, but it is clear that he would not have lived so long. What is the chance that he, like Demerzel, was a robot? (here I want to joke that after there will be a plot series like in Adventure Time, where BiMo went to the factory where he was made and met AMo).
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Redopera
Redopera
12 Aug 2023, 20:47 #
I have to admit that from episode to episode they shoot shit, then candy. This and last episodes are candy. There is no desire to dive into the details, I just want to enjoy watching. Received:)
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zamizami
zamizami
12 Aug 2023, 21:22 #
I pay tribute to Lee pace
, I've already lost count of which Cleon he plays, but every time it's REALLY a different person
in the context of the narrative, of course he's the same, but pace manages to stick out some features in each image very filigree, and some on the contrary to rub and hide

bravo!
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fb1363782
fb1363782
21 Aug 2023, 10:05 #
@zamizami: Lee is a wonderful actor, it's a pity he has so few main roles
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Klido
Klido
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12 Aug 2023, 22:23 #
Some kind of half-ditch. Those under the emperor and nothing, those just without anything, but the emperors ...
the exclusive right... Right here. How do they know, other than the adnroid?
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sunshine_lika
sunshine_lika
12 Aug 2023, 22:29 #
The whole series was interesting 😍
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It_is_different
It_is_different
14 Aug 2023, 19:01 #
Repair of the emperor's bedroom after the assassination was entrusted to some drunken guest workers? Everything is crookedly smeared with some kind of putty or paint. A lot of time has passed, there is megatechnology, it was possible to redo the entire bedroom 100 times, and not patch holes.
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Oksana24
Oksana24
14 Aug 2023, 21:50 #
Also about this thought)) Restorers they have rukozhopye definitely
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Topaz
Topaz
14 Aug 2023, 21:58 #
@It_is_different: considering that they didn't have their own bright paint, they easily lost all their skills. Plus we haven't had time yet.
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AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
15 Aug 2023, 04:40 #
Shaggy!
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GonReborn
GonReborn
16 Aug 2023, 09:54 #
Besides the Emperors, I like the line with Geri Seldon, mostly just because of the character himself. And if Salvar is also a normal character, she has excitement and flexibility of thinking, then Gaal is an incredible demon. But this is somehow compensated by Seldon, because now you perceive their trinity as a family during a journey where everyone has their own character. It's sad only how at moments in the series they try to prick Seldon in something, when it's obvious that he thinks more broadly and far away can not be considered a minus in any way.
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Sul_Shel
Sul_Shel
03 Oct 2023, 07:52 #
@GonReborn: about Seldon to the point. He realized that the girl goddess is not real, so it's because he is "mentally incomplete" -_-
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serg_as
serg_as
19 Sep 2023, 19:15 #
And what kind of actor plays the "keeper of memory"? He looks too much like Steve Buscemi.
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serg_as
serg_as
19 Sep 2023, 19:15 #
@serg_as: 27:51 timecode and beyond

Found. Ed Birch. But with long hair - straight young Buscemi )
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Ourania
Ourania
21 Sep 2023, 23:23 #
Hm.. It looks like destroying the Empire is equivalent to destroying Dimerzel. Sunset and Dawn united against a madcap Day. The latter has become so attached to the nanny that he is afraid of an earthly intelligent woman. Well, making love with a robot is a perversion.
The line with Seldon is not very good yet. The old man himself is disgusted, he is very selfish and narcissistic.
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luvrok
luvrok
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07 Oct 2023, 03:55 #
I have a feeling that Gaal and Seldon talk about the same thing every dialogue, literally their dialogues are so poorly spelled out that it seems that the screenwriters simply do not know what to talk about. In general, they have a drama about nothing. It's not clear what their goal is, what their problems are. Maybe I'm not looking carefully, I understand that Seldon wants a second foundation now that will fight the first one? I'm not sure, it's generally not very logical, despite Seldon's arguments. In general, to establish a foundation is a difficult task and the three of them will not cope. They are in three as an unnecessary storyline, although it seems like the main characters in the story.
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Regis-emiel
Regis-emiel
17 Oct 2023, 22:32 #
Both lines have become interesting.
Sudden origins of the Mule and all that.

I also look at the telepath and think what kind of woman I know. And this is Mary Reed from Our Flag Means Death. :)
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czar
czar
07 Nov 2023, 02:04 #
Are there very big discrepancies with the book ?
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g1287352
g1287352
07 Nov 2023, 06:48 #
@czar: in fact, these are two completely different stories with different meanings
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Lalenen
Lalenen
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25 Nov 2023, 17:32 #
I hoped so much that Hugo was really alive. And he explained everything so logically, because it would be possible to do so, it's a real shame (
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Биг-Чиф-Вулабам
Биг-Чиф-Вулабам
05 Feb 12:21 #
Now all that remains is to resurrect the second Seldon and arrange a mega-battle between them, hehe.
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