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s02e07 — A Necessary Death

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Duration: 53 min.
Released: 25.08.202325.08.2023 15:00
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2 season
s02e07
s02e02 - A Glimpse of Darkness
s02e03 - King and Commoner
s02e04 - Where the Stars Are Scattered Thinly
s02e05 - The Sighted and the Seen
s02e06 - Why the Gods Made Wine
s02e07 - A Necessary Death
s02e08 - The Last Empress
s02e09 - Long Ago, Not Far Away
s02e10 - Creation Myths

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reddit
reddit
25 Aug 2023, 13:49 #
"I will marry one, and I will make a face from another and the main thing is that he does not know"
so many women do 🤣
made of the Day Alenyaku
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Tuliackbaev
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25 Aug 2023, 14:51 #
@reddit: considering that Day and Dawn are genetically the same person, the plan is certainly so-so.
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flaxman
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27 Aug 2023, 01:22 #
@Tuliackbaev: eyes, his eyes are kind 😂😂😂
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Сериальщик732
Сериальщик732
28 Aug 2023, 17:51 #
@Tuliackbaev: there are also corrupted clones, because everyone's character is different
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the episode aired 25.08.2023
ViktoryMartini
ViktoryMartini
25 Aug 2023, 15:45 #
Salvor this season, unlike the previous one, really likes it. Unlike Gaal, who constantly behaves like a capricious child. By the way, I really liked the series, just all the storylines were interesting
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Luna_Pralun
Luna_Pralun
25 Aug 2023, 16:21 #
Yes, Salvor is beautiful!
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zamizami
zamizami
25 Aug 2023, 17:16 #
the line between right and wrong, evil and virtue, and most importantly, between bad and good is blurring more and more

and that's cool!
here it is a drama
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sunshine_lika
sunshine_lika
25 Aug 2023, 17:37 #
The most interesting series✅😊
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Пускусита
Пускусита
25 Aug 2023, 17:48 #
Gaal is the most annoying character, you can't think of a worse one. Capricious, hysterical, selfish, stupid. Does she have any positive qualities at all? And Salvor, yes, is good, causes both sympathy and sympathy. The day swam so much in conversation with the bride that it was even somehow awkward for him. Against the background of the thirteenth Cleon - he's some kind of pale tearful moth
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Пускусита
Пускусита
25 Aug 2023, 17:48 #
Gaal is the most annoying character, you can't think of a worse one. Capricious, hysterical, selfish, stupid. Does she have any positive qualities at all? And Salvor, yes, is good, causes both sympathy and sympathy. The day swam so much in conversation with the bride that it was even somehow awkward for him. Against the background of the thirteenth Cleon, he is some kind of pale, tearful moth. Hober is a good fellow, found a common language with Becky and again slipped away from his pursuers.
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СашкаДрогун
СашкаДрогун
25 Aug 2023, 18:46 #
well, the heat has finally gone! Episode 10.. I hope the Day is hanging all the cradles, with all hands for him)
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inmortal
inmortal
25 Aug 2023, 19:39 #
For mentioning 3 laws on robotics - a separate asterisk!
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m_ksy
m_ksy
28 Aug 2023, 00:49 #
@Inmortal: remember that they remembered, but, in fact, they canceled it immediately with the same words 🥲
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serg_as
serg_as
20 Sep 2023, 02:43 #
@m_ksy: translatepliz. there is no need to arrange demonstrative actions here, let's communicate normally.
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m_ksy
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02 Oct 2023, 02:24 #
@serg_as: what does "promotions"have to do with it? I have a website myshows.me in Ukrainian, it is displayed, there is a built-in ability to switch the language, with the app on the phone in the same way. If against my choice (which does not violate any myshows rules), then just pass by, and if you are interested in what is written there, then modern technologies allow you to view the translation in a few seconds.
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serg_as
serg_as
02 Oct 2023, 04:41 #
@m_ksy: clauses 3.2 and 3.2.2 explicitly prohibit deliberately tampering with the language. So communicate in a human way, try to at least look like a civilized person.
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MarkRaffer
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02 Oct 2023, 09:42 #
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serg_as
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03 Oct 2023, 05:10 #
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MarkRaffer
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03 Oct 2023, 10:35 #
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mivavi
mivavi
16 Oct 2023, 18:59 #
@m_ksy: sorry for this cretin that wrote to you - we're not all like that ❤️
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Вася_Куролесов
Вася_Куролесов
17 Oct 2023, 20:22 #
@mivavi: You do not agree with "clauses 3.2 and 3.2.2 clearly prohibit deliberately tampering with the language."??
No need to apologize for others. You instantly turn into a "terpila".
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serg_as
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17 Nov 2023, 03:04 #
@mivavi: well, so far, only you are directly violating the rules here, which I ask the moderators to pay attention to. Or have insults become allowed here?
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muraha
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31 Jan 08:31 #
3.2.1. In comments on MyShows it is prohibited to use obscene language, and also get personal and insult users and the administration of the Site.
@serg_as: тут то ви вже порушуєте правила користування сайтом.
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serg_as
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31 Jan 17:31 #
@muraha: the English part is clear. But the second half is some kind of nonsense. I don't understand the original, but in the automatic translation it sounds like "until you were convinced of this, it was a corrupt version of the site." What does it mean? Or, after all, did you want to say something coherent? Russian Russian site, write in Russian, enough of the demonstrations already.
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Just_KOVIA
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29 Aug 2023, 16:39 #
@inmortal: on the contrary, I shuddered from the fact that they perverted this too, instead of 4 laws they made 1...
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Margadon
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02 Sep 2023, 16:14 #
@Just_KOVIA: I agree, but there was still 0 law in the books, which was brought out by the robot Giskard and the limit of R. Daniel. They have also perverted this law. It sounds like this: “A robot cannot harm humanity or, by its inaction, allow humanity to be harmed.” They perverted him to serve the Empire.
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MarkRaffer
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02 Sep 2023, 19:49 #
@Margadon: now Asimov would be pecked by all sorts of "activists" and other homosexuals from the LGBT sect for a bad and unfair attitude towards robots.
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ЧижикПыжик
ЧижикПыжик
13 Sep 2023, 20:59 #
@Just_KOVIA: They've twisted and changed a lot of things here. Part of the names and the title remained from the book. Skin color, eyes, behavior, gender, orientation, etc., etc. were changed for many and it did not make any of them better, or at least left them at the same level.

But according to the sometimes flashing graphics, it is clear where half of the budget went \_(ツ)_/
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ajcrvr
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25 Aug 2023, 19:51 #
I wonder - where did they shoot this stone pool? Isn't it in Iceland?
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scarcelyinside
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27 Aug 2023, 03:23 #
@ajcrvr: Kiama, Australia. Googled as blowhole point ocean pool.
A one-to-one form, at least. The frame seems to consist of several parts, because it's quite flat and green around there. But there are a lot of rocks higher up the coast, so it seems to me that they have collected the entire surrounding terrain in a heap.
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ajcrvr
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27 Aug 2023, 13:39 #
@scarcelyinside: Thank you! Although there is no Australia in all sources about the filming location, only Europe.
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scarcelyinside
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27 Aug 2023, 17:48 #
@ajcrvr: yes, I was surprised too 🤷♀️ this pool in Kiama was all over Instagram at one time. Very recognizable, in short, especially if the view is from above.
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ajcrvr
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27 Aug 2023, 18:05 #
@scarcelyinside: out of curiosity, I Googled lava rock pool iceland and here they clearly have such an environment as by the pool in the series. And the actress playing Tellem is a Maori, it turns out. Well, you can see from her face that she's not white, but I thought she was Greenlandic. In general, nothing was clarified, only more confused. :)))
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scarcelyinside
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27 Aug 2023, 19:25 #
@ajcrvr: I say, the combined frame looks like. The pool is separate, the rocks are separate. Was 😅
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Diplo88
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29 Apr 11:25 #
@ajcrvr: damn, and I think why do Australian TV series pop up in my memory at the sight of her and so many Maori in the crowd)))
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ajcrvr
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29 Apr 13:26 #
@Diplo88: Yes, and New Zealand ones. :)
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kathrine_adams
kathrine_adams
25 Aug 2023, 19:54 #
Series - fire! I don't believe they killed Salvor, I like her this season, even the actress, in my opinion, has become a better actor compared to the first one. Then Gaal came to me more, but now she's just annoying. I hope Salvor is still alive.
The ghost of Hari is pulling off all sorts of machinations. Even if Hober screwed up in negotiations with the spacers, and Hari himself is in the throne room, I still have the feeling that everything is going according to plan with him anyway))) In general, the scene in the throne room is the coolest! And how the Day grinned, and how fucked up he was when he saw Hari, and even how he then offered his hand to Constanta.
I thought Demerzel would kill Saret right on the gynecological chair))) But she hurt morally... Although she is a robot, but so far there is a feeling that she is sorry to give the Day to another woman for marriage, as if she also has feelings for him. Or it just seems to me because of their gorgeous chemistry)))
The dawn is still cloudy, I'm waiting for it to really manifest itself. Will he get involved in an adventure with Sareth and the baby? Very interesting)) I was also amused by how they remembered the Dawn killed last season and how they edited the version of his death))
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_LA_
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26 Aug 2023, 14:54 #
@kathrine_adams: If Salvor dies, then Gaal's vision will definitely not come true.
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ArtchibalD
ArtchibalD
25 Aug 2023, 20:34 #
Sorry, about the passing series - where the previous one ended, there is this one
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flaxman
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27 Aug 2023, 01:28 #
@ArtchibalD: this is not a passing series, this is the whole season, and perhaps the whole series 🤷🏻♂️
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kladdenbuch
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25 Aug 2023, 21:23 #
I liked the general's words that without the empire there will be great cruelty because not everyone is able to protect themselves. he's right.
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Redopera
Redopera
25 Aug 2023, 21:53 #
@kladdenbuch: the general is generally a character with a big heart, the actor also plays beautifully, it's very nice to watch
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Doro
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28 Aug 2023, 16:36 #
@kladdenbuch: that's why Harry wants to replace the empire that will fall anyway with something better.
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AEE
AEE
25 Aug 2023, 22:11 #
Have you noticed a subtle moment? When the day says about Hari: "He keeps the old man in the dark and uses the girl's body" - at this moment they show sunset (evening?), who looks at Demrezel with displeasure, realizing that this is a sudden revelation of the Day and about him and her too. Bravo!

It will be especially funny if Hari has calculated such words and reactions to them, and that after them everything in their palace will spin even more...
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Mast_natan
Mast_natan
25 Aug 2023, 22:20 #
Cool dynamic series, right worried about Haber and Salvor. I hoped that Hari would be saved, and he did not drown (((

The telepathic grandmother is disgusting, I hate her. I just want it to be rolled out.

Demerzel turns into an Abomination, so dirty to the bride that it just freezes from her smirk.

Lee Pace is beautiful in all the scenes 🤩
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MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
26 Aug 2023, 23:33 #
@Mast_natan: Everything is like that - except Demerzel. She's beautiful too. And in general - a wonderful series turned out.
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AEE
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26 Aug 2023, 01:32 #
I also have a feeling that Demrezel specifically told the bride that she killed her family in order to provoke a rift between the daughter-in-law and the Day. Either because of jealousy, or she is trying to preserve the genetic dynasty (she killed dawn earlier for this, why she is OK now - they never told her), or both options at once. For a reason, at the beginning of the series, she asks if Day has changed his mind about getting married, because of her antics at the stadium.
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Кукабара
Кукабара
26 Aug 2023, 06:09 #
@AEE: Maybe she can kill a day. It also serves the interests of the empire.
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oldbk
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26 Aug 2023, 15:46 #
Why does the Day look so lousy, tired, exhausted?
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New2018
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26 Aug 2023, 19:34 #
@oldbk: yeah, I noticed it too. Maybe they make up on purpose. It is unlikely that Pace has aged so much in a year. Or maybe he's sick
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id422654221
id422654221
27 Aug 2023, 00:23 #
While I sincerely do not understand the motivation of 17 Cleon to become the last and interrupt the genetic dynasty. This is not in his nature, he is somehow too flexible and, in principle, insecure. I could understand if that Cleon, who pointedly destroyed two planets, wanted to do it, or at least the one who cut out all Azura's acquaintances for his "son". They had their own characters, had teeth and had strength. This one just floats from one woman to another
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scarcelyinside
scarcelyinside
27 Aug 2023, 10:26 #
Oh, this shade, when the Day says about Hari, "he keeps an old man in guidance and uses the girl's body." As if he's not doing the same thing.
Whether Pace is in general, How many Days he has already played, and all are different.

I want Ben Daniels to use his voice to read "The Foundation" for an audiobook. It would be ideal and meditative.
I love him, he always brings so much color to the roles. It doesn't seem to do anything special, but — once — and the character is three-dimensional.

Salvor is well done, Hober and Becky (I hope this is the beginning of a wonderful friendship), Constant, the emperors, Saret and Demerzel are all good, even this vile aunt in white infuriates, but characteristic.
And only Gaal is annoying just like that. She has been stupidly gaslight gatekeeper girlboss for two seasons, because the scriptwriter/s are trying to force-feed her to us as a "strong heroine", although she does not have any kind of development arch, where she gradually turned from capricious and annoying into something substantial. And it is unlikely that this arch will happen further.
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paranoid_nerd
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29 Aug 2023, 20:05 #
Damn, Gaal is getting more and more infuriating. Then Hari underestimates her, restrains her (and what else the screenwriters have come up with), then she abruptly trusts the manipulative woman.

It's a pity that Hari was given a body to drown later just like that.
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white_boom
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31 Aug 2023, 08:14 #
Можно просто линию Дня всегда показывать?))
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SwetlanaU
SwetlanaU
02 Sep 2023, 18:26 #
Сарет своим дерзким поведением продолжает подбешивать, и будто всё так и должно быть - проницательный День с ней как недоросший Рассвет, которому что не скажи во всё верит 🤷🏻‍♀️ кого не покажи - все нравятся (с первого сезона) ....
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camilla_foxie
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07 Sep 2023, 12:31 #
Серия понравилась. Есть ощущение , что империей уже давно правит Демирзель. Ведь только она живет вечно. За ней нет никакого контроля. И по этому ей и не выгодно , чтобы День женился и продолжал род.ведь тогда держать контроль не получится.
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ЧижикПыжик
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13 Sep 2023, 20:55 #
Не знаю про какую харизму говорил День у этой ужасно подобранной актрисы, которая плоха во всём и так же некрасива, и раздражает всем, даже сильнее чем Гаал. Харизмы ноль.
У Маргери Тирелл из "Игры престолов" она была, только основанная на конкретном поведении, поступках.
Здесь же это чистое недоразумение.
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Abejorro
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17 Sep 2023, 10:45 #
@Chizhikpyzhik: I absolutely agree! The actress is also terribly overplaying
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iionTihii
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21 Sep 2023, 21:45 #
Какая же бесячая невеста у Дня. 😖 Раздражает неимоверно.
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Ourania
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26 Sep 2023, 23:47 #
Салвор в этом сезоне лучше играет, но с мотивацией ее героини еще с первого сезона плохо. У девушки были отличные родители и надежные мужчина, зачем она поперлась искать носительницу яйцеклетки?
Гаал перестала вывозить роль, изображая глуповатую девочку-подростка, хотя ее героиня пережила гибель любимого, предательство Селдона, поглощение водой родной планеты.
Ну и для галочки про императрицу. Актрисе бы сделать походку более плавной, а не солдатской, и разнообразить мимику.
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_CHASER_
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28 Sep 2023, 19:11 #
Крутая серия, много действий, много императора!
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Кенсей
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01 Oct 2023, 03:49 #
ахаха, снова серия заканчивается в этом бассейне
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berion87
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08 Oct 2023, 06:15 #
Сплошной оффтоп. наверное в 1 сезоне писали что космониты похожи на навигаторов Дюны. так они еще и зависимы от особого вещества («the spice must flow»)
эту главтелепатку я помню по тору 3. она еще кстати учитель актёрского мастерства!
ахтунг-генерал Бен Дэниелс реально гей. а его партнер уже 30 лет! это Киван Ланнистер) - Иэн Гелдер. а любовник генерала Дино Фетчер - Мистер гей Британии 2008 г. аутентично - геев играют геи.
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MarkRaffer
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08 Oct 2023, 11:14 #
@berion87: к актёрской игре содомитов - вообще нет претензий, так как это прекрасно и без всего этого напускного жеманства. Поэтому и воспринимается вполне себе нормально.
А вот по главнотелепатке - тут куча вопросов, потому что её игра - это просто какая-то бездарность.
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Вася_Куролесов
Вася_Куролесов
13 Oct 2023, 18:12 #
@MarkRaffer: Я, на тебя тут сослался в другом сериале, в хорошем смысле, и разблокируй уже, не могу поставить плюсы
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MarkRaffer
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13 Oct 2023, 19:06 #
@Вася_Куролесов: окай
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Regis-emiel
Regis-emiel
23 Oct 2023, 18:27 #
классная серия.
селдон два раза проиграл уже. но не сдастся, я думаю.
демерзель шикарная.
очень надеюсь, что сальвор жива.
а гаал когда-нибудь завезут мозги, интересно. или не судьба.
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ИнтeрecныйФиллep
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20 Mar 23:59 #
Guys, can someone explain to me 🤦 why they are looking for secluded places to talk if the emperor's memory is being translated into a clone, and plus they do a memory scan every day 🤦🤦🤦 what do they expect that no one will know about the conversation
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