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Duration: 53 min.
Released: 14.12.202314.12.2023 15:00
Watched by: 9 59115.35%
6 season
s06e05
s06e01 - Persona Non Grata
s06e02 - Two Photographs
s06e03 - Dis-Moi Oui
s06e04 - Aftermath
s06e05 - Willsmania
s06e06 - Ruritania
s06e07 - Alma Mater
s06e08 - Ritz
s06e09 - Hope Street

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sirit77
sirit77
PRO
14 Dec 2023, 12:09 # Show original
The authors of the series, apparently, wanted us to cry out all our eyes with the last season😭 this moment when William came to Charles after a conversation with his grandfather💔
Nog
Nog
14 Dec 2023, 13:56 # Show original
Philip's conversation with his grandson is wonderful and correct.
And his tiny memory of Smith in the frame pleased him.
the episode aired 14.12.2023
ovcharenko_kate
ovcharenko_kate
14 Dec 2023, 18:47 # Show original
An emotionally powerful series! A good start for the second part of the series
Ksbsha
Ksbsha
14 Dec 2023, 20:07 # Show original
Touching episode!
Prince William in the final scene 💔
and Prince Harry have grown a lot from the previous episode, although the boys here are about 15 and 13 years old
bambik
bambik
14 Dec 2023, 22:31 # Show original
@Ksbsha: it's completely disproportionate - two months have passed, and the boy was replaced by an actor of 23 years old.
kotenokgaff
kotenokgaff
28 Dec 2023, 10:10 # Show original
@bambik: yes, I also couldn't figure out for the first 20 minutes - it's been a long time or what's going on, what year is it now))))
Sayonara_Nirvana
Sayonara_Nirvana
PRO
14 Dec 2023, 20:09 # Show original
In the end I shed a tear
aziza_funky
aziza_funky
PRO
14 Dec 2023, 21:22 # Show original
A strong series, I cried a lot(
youhospital
youhospital
14 Dec 2023, 21:28 # Show original
Such a beautiful line, Philip, Charles, William, insanely sad, but at the same time touching series
invisible-me
invisible-me
14 Dec 2023, 21:40 # Show original
Harry is 13 years old in this episode, and looks at least 18 years old. The behavior also does not correspond to age — drinks whiskey, champagne, walks in a bathrobe like a 40-year-old man) In general, a strange choice of actor for the role of Harry. In the first part of the season, the actor who played Harry looked more harmonious. I was also surprised by his gaiety, very little time has passed since Diana's death.. Of course, maybe he coped with pain this way, everyone has different ways, but from the outside it was not very pleasant and incomprehensible to look at.

Overall, a strong series. From the point of view of acting, I liked the scene of William's conversation with Charles (when William allegedly came to the Queen) — it was very emotional.
Nagini_177
Nagini_177
17 Dec 2023, 09:14 # Show original
Harry was already 13 years old and was taller than all the members of his family.
Reading the book, it also becomes clear that he started drinking alcohol and weed quite early. At Eton. And until the age of 17, he completely denied the death of his mother and thought that she had just left and disappeared so that journalists would not bother her.

Well, let's see what they show us next
scarcelyinside
scarcelyinside
14 Dec 2023, 22:13 # Show original
I was crying a lot.
I liked how they showed from the very beginning of the series how Charles was trying to approach William — he switched the opera in the car to pop music. It may look like a small thing, but it's an awkward attempt to get closer.
And I liked the "archives" with Matt Smith. It's as if Philip is looking at his relationship with his son through the prism of Charles and William's relationship.
kotenokgaff
kotenokgaff
28 Dec 2023, 10:11 # Show original
@scarcelyinside: well, at least he (Philip) did something good for his son
nens8_8y
nens8_8y
25 Apr 16:54 # Show original
@kotenokgaff: yes, I also thought that both Elizabeth and Philip now have a good relationship with William, understand him, listen to him, care about him, but Charles, unfortunately, not only did not get this, but now (at the present time of the series) does not get it...(
hey_seattle
hey_seattle
15 Dec 2023, 00:33 # Show original
An incredibly touching series about fathers and children and such beautiful landscapes 🥺
vdoh
vdoh
15 Dec 2023, 01:31 # Show original
It seems that this is the first episode where fuck appeared in addition to bloody! William's actor is very plausible, but they certainly famously introduced new Harry
ВераКоротышева
ВераКоротышева
15 Dec 2023, 02:39 # Show original
Maybe with the choice of an actor for the role of Harry, of course, there was a mistake in terms of age, but it seems to me that the actor gets into character well. It seems that the creators have always aspired to this. The contrast between the brothers is well shown, and if the serial Will looks like Diana outwardly, then Harry is easier to climb and there is clearly a similarity in character and charm. Perhaps cheerfulness is just a defensive reaction, we'll see in the next episodes.
LerKechan
LerKechan
15 Dec 2023, 13:02 # Show original
Harry didn't like the recast at all. If it was necessary to change to someone older, they would have found a teenage boy who looks like his 15 years. The contrast is too great after the previous episode.
I didn't realize at first that it had to be Harry. It somehow spoils the impression
zzz_203
zzz_203
PRO
15 Dec 2023, 14:55 # Show original
Still , she burst into tears at the end 😭
Grandfather's conversation with his grandson and the footage of the chronicle, where Phillip and little Charles are the most touching moments of the series
Darkes
Darkes
15 Dec 2023, 22:34 # Show original
I had to Google Harry's age to understand why he had changed so enormously over the summer. It's a very strange decision, and the contrast with the previous series is really eye-watering. Especially in his behavior - when little Harry bravely followed his mother's coffin, it was strong. And here, somehow, the character does not feel at all, at first there was a thought that this was just some kind of left-wing friend of William, and not a brother. They both lost their mother, well. I understand that everyone has their own ways of dealing with pain, but there's a bit of a dissonance here.

In general, I liked the series, the eternal problem of fathers and children was shown perfectly. Philip, who has clearly realized the mistakes of the past, Charles, who does not want to make mistakes, and William, who still has a chance to avoid them. The fact that he eventually made contact with his father was very touching.
Fadelena
Fadelena
08 Jan 22:56 # Show original
@Darkes: I took a very good break between the first part about Diana, so the recast is perceived easier
Anica22
Anica22
16 Dec 2023, 00:54 # Show original
When William hugged Charles, I burst into tears 💔
dbeskrovi
dbeskrovi
PRO
16 Dec 2023, 05:00 # Show original
This last season will definitely finish me off
From the realization that there are not so many episodes ahead and they are definitely the last, I am ready to cry already on the screensaver
The series is very strong, in the arms of William and Charles could not hold back tears
diana_nov
diana_nov
16 Dec 2023, 11:54 # Show original
I sincerely feel sorry for each member of the royal family in their own way, everyone can be understood to some extent....
Virid_Knight
Virid_Knight
16 Dec 2023, 12:34 #
Я, конечно, все понимаю, у всех вкусы разные... Но могли бы и по-симпатичнее актёра на роль Гарри выбрать. Особенно учитывая, что он сейчас на Нетфликс работает
loremipsum
loremipsum
PRO
16 Dec 2023, 18:11 #
С Гарри какой-то мощный мискаст произошел. И во время просмотра не получается никак закрыть на это глаза. Ведь прошло совсем немного времени, а вместо 13-ти летнего парня в кадре уже почти взрослый мужчина.
n_boldareva
n_boldareva
17 Dec 2023, 10:17 #
Прекрасная серия…разговор Филиппа и Уильяма, кадры молодого Филиппа с маленьким Чарльзом (спасибо за Мэтта Смита), и конечно же финальные объятья💔
Miko_Mikoo
Miko_Mikoo
17 Dec 2023, 11:29 #
Одна из лучших серий после серии про Уэльс.
И режиссеру и актерам 🎩
nadele24
nadele24
17 Dec 2023, 14:24 #
Как же мне будет не хватать этот сериал...Последние 5 минут серии я просто не дышала
Vadim006
Vadim006
17 Dec 2023, 16:08 #
Для меня это лучшая серия из всех сезонов. Отцовская боль - так редко раскрываемая тема.
marina128
marina128
17 Dec 2023, 22:42 # Show original
Ryan Gosling
kotenokgaff
kotenokgaff
28 Dec 2023, 10:13 #
@marina128: о.О где?

Если вы про молодого Филиппа то это Мэтт Смит (как и в 1 сезоне)
marina128
marina128
28 Dec 2023, 10:32 #
@kotenokgaff: не, я про Уилльяма) Очень сильно мне напомнил Гослинга с некоторых ракурсов
kotenokgaff
kotenokgaff
28 Dec 2023, 17:31 #
@marina128: мне кажется не похож )) у Гослинга острые черты лица, а у актера который Уильяма играет очень мягкие
htoniceskii
htoniceskii
18 Dec 2023, 16:38 #
Тема «богатые тоже плачут» раскрыта наилучшим образом
karma_police
karma_police
19 Dec 2023, 00:13 #
Мощная серия. Браво!
Irena_Turner
Irena_Turner
20 Dec 2023, 11:18 #
Очень эмоциональная серия 💔
KapelkaSoulino
KapelkaSoulino
21 Dec 2023, 10:13 # Show original
A wonderful soul-searching series. The eternal theme of fathers and children is how difficult it all is in general, and when such a tragedy as the loss of a mother becomes ten times more difficult.
And what a good psychotherapy session the grandfather had for his grandson. What William needed to hear, which you can't admit to yourself yet, and you can't get to such depths at this age. And then a wise grandfather with experience laid everything out on the shelves. Of course, everyone would like to have such a Philip in such situations...
As Philip correctly said (I will freely convey) that, since previous generations could hardly go into parenthood, this is no excuse for new ones not to try and pass all the fuck up's on. We need to work on ourselves, no matter how incredibly hard it is, and become better parents for our children than our parents were for us. It's very relevant to me now, so the topic resonated strongly.
And I couldn't help but cry - on an episode of a conversation between Charles and William, when the son accused his father of all mortal sins (how painful it is for any parent to hear, and everyone will be there, in Charles's place, sooner or later); on an episode of a conversation between Philip and William; and, of course, on the final scene, where William understood everything and immediately went to apologize to Dad. It was so warm and touching that it hurt my heart. And Philip's look at them is both regret and joy in him.
KapelkaSoulino
KapelkaSoulino
21 Dec 2023, 10:16 #
Актеров на Гарри и Уильяма так лихо поменяли за серию. Зачем, интересно, если прошло по таймлайну всего 2 месяца? Хотя с Уильямом я не против, этот парень реально вылитый принц Уильям, предыдущий актер был не так похож, а этот вот как Дебики вылитая Диана, так и он - копия Уильяма. И играет гораздо лучше своего предшественника.
А вот с Гарри какая-то шняга. Даже погуглила, Гарри тогда не выглядел, как английский гопник, в отличие от этого актера. Был милый, обаятельный мальчик. В общем, мискаст, на мой взгляд.
tevladka
tevladka
21 Dec 2023, 14:57 #
Очень сильная серия. Филлип сам был херовым отцом, я до сих пор помню, как мне было жаль Чарльза в сериях, где он уехал учиться. И вот именно линия его отношений с отцом делала мне очень больно. И кажется в пожилом возрасте Филлип понял насколько Чарльз пытается стать непохожим на его в своем отцовстве. Понравилось, как он читал старые письма и смотрел старые видео, даже у меня ностальгией повеяло. Ну и сама сцена ссоры Уильяма и Чарльза очень драматичная! Но, конечно, я не ожидала что Уияльму тут якобы 13. Я думала 16-17.
Анастасия88
Анастасия88
21 Dec 2023, 18:12 # Show original
A really heartwarming series. I agree with the commentators above that it is good to have such a grandfather who will sort everything out. But it seemed that no one had hugged the unfortunate boys in the time that had passed since Diana's death. And if the last boy in the role of Harry just stole my heart, now the performer of the role of William has done it. That's really similar. And here's the new Harry, I'm sorry, but it's just terrible. Why change the boy, because it's only been 2 months?! If only the old actor would stay for at least a couple more episodes.
kotenokgaff
kotenokgaff
28 Dec 2023, 10:16 #
@Анастасия88: Потому что было бы странно сменить одного не меняя другого.. Причем он в целом очень похож, но на более взрослого Гарри (
Fenyamin
Fenyamin
PRO
23 Dec 2023, 17:26 #
Хорошая серия, в очередной раз показывает членов семьи с точки зрения нормального обычного человека, с их настоящими эмоциями.
Начало серии - это словно Диана в образе мотылька, которая напоминает Уильяму о себе и последующее начало раскрытия обстоятельств принятия им произошедшего с Дианой.
Окончание серии - логичная развязка кульминации конфликта с Чарльзом и принятие ситуации - очень понравилась. Джонатан Прайс играющий роль Филиппа отыгрывает прекрасно.
eplusk
eplusk
25 Dec 2023, 16:19 #
Очень понравилась серия и эта тема отцов и детей! Очень интересно было смотреть
GOsipov
GOsipov
26 Dec 2023, 19:51 #
Ну такое. Мне кажется, дети до сих пор таят обиду на отца, и уж точно его не простили. Их лица на свадьбе с Камиллой говорят обо всём. Поэтому я отчасти не понял к чему эта слезодавилка в конце в виде обнимашек. Чарльз по факту виновен в смерти Дианы, если вообще не заказал её убийство. Чёт Корона в финале максимально отбеляет королевскую семью. Может действительно создателям заплатили. Сюжет стал беззубым.
suzanna9491
suzanna9491
05 Jan 16:17 #
Как быстро растут дети.
Наконец, Филипп перестал быть мебелью, хоть на пол серии. А еще было ужасно мило увидеть фото/видео с актерами из первых сезонов, Мэтт Смит ван лав ❤️
berion87
berion87
PRO
06 Jan 18:00 #
А молодой Вилльям - Ed McVey отлично подобран.
маленький Гарри - Fflyn Edwards (🙂Ффлин)
berion87
berion87
PRO
06 Jan 18:12 #
@berion87: а могила принцессы Дианы реально на острове. как в сказке 🧚‍♀️
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/9822383/photos-princess-diana-grave-althorp-anniversary-death/
all_lavender
all_lavender
06 Jan 21:25 #
реальный чарльз симпатии особо не вызывает, а в сериале просто вау, и внешне очень приятный, и поведение в отношении с дианой в последние годы, и отношение к детям. очень рада, что в конце серии они примирились с первенцем.
Mioko_sama
Mioko_sama
08 Jan 01:59 #
Очень сильная серия. Монументальный конец
Candy_girl
Candy_girl
09 Jan 06:40 #
Какой стероид они там в своем чае принимают? Сколько прошло с событий предыдущей серии? Я сначала подумала что пару лет, но Уильям приехал на учебу и там письма скорбящие, то есть это почти сразу после похорон +- ? От чего он тогда стал капитаном америкой? А что с Гарри? В предыдущей серии он маленький мальчик, через пару месяцев уже какой то бухающий пацан?
moonchildeus
moonchildeus
13 Jan 21:57 #
актера, конечно, прекрасно подобрали на роль! очень хороший из него уильям
moonchildeus
moonchildeus
13 Jan 22:00 #
думаю, наверное, на эту серию хотя бы надо было оставить маленького гарри, а то уж совсем чувствуется контраст. фото с их поездки в канаду в 1998:
Aoeiu
Aoeiu
14 Jan 22:18 # Show original
Cloying series, just nothing to tell the authors
Christipo
Christipo
19 Jan 23:23 #
Яка прониклива розмова дідуся і онука 🙏 з кожним сезоном, з кожною серією все більше більше дивуюсь та закохуюсь
Lizavetttta
Lizavetttta
03 Mar 13:10 #
Офигенно сериал передает современный взгляд на системную семейную психологию и семейные травмы, где все виноваты, но никто не виноват🙏❤️
Edwina
Edwina
04 Mar 23:47 #
Завжди захоплювалась принцем Едінбургським, дідусем. Така така сила, така мудрість. читала, що Гаррі на нього більш всього схожий. А ще він дуже любив пожартувати. Іноді - занадто відверто.
nens8_8y
nens8_8y
25 Apr 17:09 # Show original
I am glad that Charles was able to become such a good father. And that William has so much support. I hope Harry has one too...Because it's like Charles and Diana had the same child...
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