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s02e03 — The Burning Mill

House of the Dragon — s02e03 — The Burning Mill

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Duration: 71 min.
Released: 30.06.202401.07.2024 04:00
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2 season
s02e03
s01e09 - The Green Council
s01e10 - The Black Queen
s02e01 - A Son for a Son
s02e02 - Rhaenyra the Cruel
s02e03 - The Burning Mill
s02e04 - The Red Dragon and the Gold
s02e05 - Regent
s02e06 - Smallfolk
Release date
29 July

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Bart182
Bart182
01 Jul 05:59 # Show original
I liked that the creators complement the screensaver with previous events.

It was a good episode, the conversation scene between Alicent and Rainira turned out very well, although it was stupid of Rainira to do such a thing.

PS. Some moments in the brothel could not be shown.
Nog
Nog
01 Jul 07:19 # Show original
@Bart182: I expected that at the name of Aegon Rhaenyra he would remember his son.
shine_shine
shine_shine
01 Jul 22:50 # Show original
She waited too, but at least it was good that she understood Alicent's misconception. She completely believed in her interpretation of the king's last words (how can you take them seriously if a person was dying in pain = delirious)
lenala
lenala
04 Jul 14:57 # Show original
@shine_shine: yes, because it was convenient for Alicent and she heard what she wanted to hear so that her son would be on the throne. She would have been given a shit by a raven on her head - she would have seen this as a sign that her son should be king
furSy
furSy
07 Jul 16:07 # Show original
@shine_shine: Because she's a crazy religious fool. And hypocritical, in fact, as is usually the case with religious fanatics.
lipaboy
lipaboy
20 Jul 18:00 # Show original
@shine_shine: She is used to satisfying men. Starting with her father, when he actually asked her to go to bed with Weatheris. She even said there: "If that's what you want." She just can't imagine how you can think about yourself normally, regardless of the recognition of men who are important to her (or maybe all of them).
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
01 Jul 19:41 # Show original
@Bart182: Why not show it? There were a lot more such moments in the IP, this is a feature of the series.
Bart182
Bart182
01 Jul 19:52 # Show original
@shizuoasa: in the IP, I do not remember that a blowjob was shown in front of the camera straight. Maybe I forgot.
There are no questions about other scenes.
zula22
zula22
02 Jul 17:14 # Show original
@shizuoasa: there were boobs of all shapes and sizes. In this series, it's straight wah. but thanks for the one-eyed man's pussy. He has the perfect body for me.
KlausDerKater
KlausDerKater
05 Jul 08:34 # Show original
@Bart182: if you look closely, you can understand that the penis is not real. What looked funny
BlueberryNights
BlueberryNights
06 Jul 18:48 # Show original
@Bart182: in one of the IP episodes, at the very beginning, a full-screen member of one of the actors of the troupe was shown, which showed the history of the Lannisters, it seems. He was looking at it and asking others about something.
So, unfortunately or fortunately, this is really a feature of the IP and here too they try to warm up the audience with it.
BuTTeRS_85
BuTTeRS_85
07 Jul 21:54 # Show original
@Bart182: what's wrong with a blowjob?))
zaiKS
zaiKS
05 Jul 01:28 # Show original
@Bart182: well, then you need to watch through KinoPoisk. They remove half of it
kaptn
kaptn
08 Jul 20:19 # Show original
@zaiKS: I looked there, you can see everything)
zaiKS
zaiKS
08 Jul 20:33 # Show original
@kaptn: There are 3 episodes yet. I have a subscription there.
zaiKS
zaiKS
08 Jul 20:50 # Show original
@kaptn: and everything came out, but I didn't look there. 1 and 2 are there, but as they say, there is censorship in the film search and half of them are removed there
iawia
iawia
08 Jul 21:55 # Show original
@kaptn: Edmond was shown naked, but the blowjob scene was cut out
TimelordRu
TimelordRu
10 Jul 00:07 # Show original
@iawia: Where was that?when?I don't remember anything, everything seems to be on the torrents without clipping
Svorky
Svorky
11 Jul 13:17 # Show original
@TimelordRu: Timecode 42:50
I'm looking at a movie clip, but I had to download it after the comment to understand what it's about :)
Like 18+, and not 2 guys there, why cut it out. Censorship is infuriating.
CALIGULA
CALIGULA
01 Jul 06:06 # Show original
and what was Rainira counting on, that Alicent could somehow influence what was happening, as if she was running everything there.... just to talk about this topic for the 10th time with the fact that there was a decomposing grandfather in a fever who said
, Millie Alcock was pleased for a second, I hope Emily will also appear in some kind of glitch further
Falleny
Falleny
PRO
02 Jul 05:21 # Show original
@CALIGULA: It's an incredibly dumb scene, I almost got my forehead hurt by it. I decided to risk everything to talk to Elissent, who seems to be sitting on a throne and deciding everything, yeah.

The screenwriters even play some kind of pacifism, they try to whitewash the female characters, that they just didn't want a war, but stupid bumpkins spoil everything and only want to kill each other, some kind of cringe.

Rainira's son was killed, and she's running around like a bunny, trying to prevent a war by risking her life. What kind of terms did she want to negotiate with Alicent? Give up the throne for old friendship? What? How? They have long passed the point of no return, it's just a laugh.
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
02 Jul 10:44 # Show original
@Falleny: in strong and INDEPENDENT women live... men - they are, just let them fight, and it's up to Women to decide. That's the message between the lines.
fs_ann
fs_ann
03 Jul 00:49 # Show original
Rainira's son was killed, and if there is a war, everyone else will be killed. Rainice awakened in her the thought that this cycle is endless. There is no beginning and there will be no end to murder and revenge, so Rainira is desperate, she hesitates and in every possible way drives away thoughts of a big massacre. Who would want to lose everything and everyone?

The fact that war cannot be avoided is clear to us, the audience. And if each of us were in Rainira's place, wouldn't there be a glimmer of hope for a peaceful solution?

The beginning of the series, by the way, is quite symbolic. Two twin brothers who chose different sides during their lifetime, but ended up in the same grave anyway.
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
15 Jul 18:44 #
@fs_ann: плюс Бракены и Блэквуды, которые даже не помнят, откуда началась давняя ссора
Nog
Nog
01 Jul 07:14 # Show original
Harrenhal is creepy, no wonder all sorts of visions start there. A person with a not very stable psyche would be better off not staying there for a long time. I'm talking about Daemon. In general, it seems that he is trying to become a separate force in the growing conflict.

Discipline in the Red Castle is clearly lame. They recruited someone into the white guard, they barely move at the sight of the commander, they laugh openly at the king almost over his own words. At that moment, even a slight sympathy for Aegon appeared. Not for long at all, before the visit to the brothel.

In general, everything is still going very slowly, although it would seem that more than one point of no return has been passed, but they continue to trash, to fight or not to fight. It's time to speed up, it's almost the middle of the season. The title of the next episode sets you up for a fighting mood, of course, but we'll see.
dieluise
dieluise
01 Jul 11:06 # Show original
@Nog: it's not who you don't understand, but Aegon's friends
opheliozz
opheliozz
01 Jul 18:27 # Show original
@Nog: they had such sarcasm there. the king didn't appreciate it, standing with sour soup, so they quickly rolled up the rzhach
AnarchyFreak
AnarchyFreak
04 Jul 02:01 # Show original
@Nog: The visions are a gift from the Strong bastard witch, the one who told him he was going to die in Harrenhal.
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
04 Jul 12:54 # Show original
@AnarchyFreak only Alice has been here for 400 years, which was confirmed by the actress, which means she is not the bastard of the Strong

The director of the series also spoke ambiguously about the visions, either Harrenhal himself sends them, or Alice - of course, the second is logical.
Briollin
Briollin
04 Jul 16:04 # Show original
@SantaJul: And I thought that this was a manifestation of the Targaryens' ability to prophetic visions. Like Helaina's
hatake
hatake
PRO
01 Jul 07:40 # Show original
Every time I see Kohl..
Well, what a slippery guy
vk922554
vk922554
01 Jul 11:03 # Show original
@hatake: They'll get him like poor Joffrey.
myhavkedah
myhavkedah
01 Jul 23:31 # Show original
I read that he has already closed social networks
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
02 Jul 18:13 # Show original
@myhavkedah: Poor guy. Idiots
hatake
hatake
PRO
02 Jul 20:42 # Show original
Yeah, I also don't understand when they can't separate a character from an actor and vice versa((

Joffrey seems to be returning to his acting career, I read this news somewhere
Dark_Alice
Dark_Alice
03 Jul 10:12 #
@vk922554: коллега по несчастью
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/08/0e/f0/080ef044679356639cb1827f7d524d30.jpg
Hannah_Abbot
Hannah_Abbot
PRO
03 Jul 11:29 # Show original
@hatake: Gleason was recently in Sex Education, and he was cast in the Sandbox this week
limbo
limbo
14 Jul 06:32 #
@hatake: Джофри был охуенен с Нисоном в достаточно проходном In the Land of Saints and Sinners
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
02 Jul 15:27 # Show original
@hatake: How old is the author? ^^
hatake
hatake
PRO
02 Jul 20:43 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: The inner child is 8 years old :
Tatieva
Tatieva
01 Jul 11:28 # Show original
Honestly, for me, Rainira's appearance in KG and her pleading tone are scripted nonsense. It didn't matter that she could have killed Alicent before her own death, because Aegon would still have remained king. And Rainira's supporters along with her children (!) They could have killed her as revenge for Alicent, too.

In my opinion, Rhaenyra's prudence has turned into weakness. Maybe, to some extent, stupidity. Even Alicent, who does nothing but sit with a sad face, said there was no turning back. And why was Rainira's angry look at the end of the first season if she's acting like this now? In short, I don't understand.

Millie Alcock! I hoped, I believed. It is extremely interesting what other glitches Damon will see. Alice Rivers looks promising.
shine_shine
shine_shine
01 Jul 22:56 # Show original
They want to show their difference and the injustice of their reputation among the people.

Alicent again surrenders in front of the men's team, Rainira, in contrast, rebuffs them and builds her own line.

Alicent is a righteous woman among the people (in fact a hypocrite), Rainira is a child killer in front of everyone (in fact, she cares about not killing a lot of people)
ElLoswen
ElLoswen
01 Jul 23:38 # Show original
It's not clear at all why Rainira showed up to talk to Alicent, what was the plan? As if Alicent had ever decided something in her life)) It's a very strange scene.
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
15 Jul 18:46 #
@Tatieva: так сказала же Алисента сама, что её смерть Рейнире ничего не даст, и та сразу "Я похоже не с того начала"
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
01 Jul 11:59 # Show original
MILLIE! How glad I was to see her! Oh, those famous ghosts of Harenhall. The scene was very creepy.

The soundtracks in this series are very cool and atmospheric.

When Baila saw Kohl, aah, how I screamed, it would be great if she waited a little longer and started a barbecue

Eamond's going to fuck up soon, I can feel it. In this nest, he felt loved and protected, as far as one could say so, and Aegon destroyed him.

Meeting of Alecenta and Reinira...I don't know how smart it was from the other side, but now she understood why it turned out the way it did. It's not a good idea to call sons the same!
Dark_Alice
Dark_Alice
03 Jul 10:19 # Show original
@fairyfoxxy: I wonder how she recognized him from such a height... Eagle's eyesight.
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
03 Jul 10:25 # Show original
@Dark_Alice: she flew very low, and the advisers also noted that Baila has excellent eyesight and should be trusted
yaninka91
yaninka91
01 Jul 12:13 # Show original
I'm sorry, but when I heard "Lord have mercy" in Russian in the temple, I just got carried away 😅
Dero-Dero
Dero-Dero
PRO
01 Jul 18:48 # Show original
I listened to it several times, I already thought that I had glitches 😁
Hannah_Abbot
Hannah_Abbot
PRO
01 Jul 22:28 # Show original
@yaninka91: Thank you very much! (I was not watching with headphones and not loudly, so I missed this moment) I rewound it in headphones on purpose, and just almost fell under the table, now we know that in Westeros, in addition to Valyrian, Dothraki and English, there is also a Russian language)))
Dark_Alice
Dark_Alice
03 Jul 10:23 #
@Hannah_Abbot: это болгарский. Точнее, церковно-славянский.
https://www.ploshtadslaveikov.com/balgarskoto-gospodi-pomiluj-zvuchi-v-domat-na-drakona-2/
Hannah_Abbot
Hannah_Abbot
PRO
03 Jul 10:57 # Show original
@Dark_Alice: as she once sang in the choir - great, vibeим
shine_shine
shine_shine
01 Jul 22:58 # Show original
Was it in the original?) Or in dubbing?
yaninka91
yaninka91
01 Jul 23:21 # Show original
in the original, of course :) I wouldn't be so surprised at the Russian language in dubbing
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
02 Jul 02:04 # Show original
@yaninka91: and can you tell me at what minute approximately I also missed something, although I always watch in the original from the sub))
Ваще
Ваще
02 Jul 02:30 # Show original
@Jeronimoo: 57:30 approximately, when Alicent puts the candle on. I immediately heard it and rewound it several times too, not believing my ears xD
tortik_s_vishney
tortik_s_vishney
17 Jul 10:48 # Show original
@shine_shine: by the way, Damon's voice was changed in the dubbing and it looks like it's for good. What's the matter? It was very similar to the actor's voice and very sexy. Now it's just some ordinary dork (
Snegnarek
Snegnarek
18 Jul 03:18 # Show original
@tortik_s_vishney: because the dubbing actor on Damon is married to an actress who is on Missaria, and she was kicked out of the role without explanation. If we are talking about an Amediatek.
Olululala
Olululala
02 Jul 02:23 # Show original
@yaninka91: I was looking for this comment! I first thought about what I thought, and rewound it to listen to it 🤣
limbo
limbo
14 Jul 06:37 #
@yaninka91: когда сценаристы не заморачиваясь купили нарезку литургических напевов на спотифае
gkalian
gkalian
01 Jul 12:19 # Show original
Wow, the episode in which Kohl doesn't sleep with Alicent. Unbelievable.

Rainira, of course, is delaying the war as much as she can, although she has already been told from all sides that the time has come. It's clear what Rainira was counting on after talking to Alicent, but this is too naive and reckless. In general, her appearance in the Harbor is about the same move as the appearance of one of the twins in Dragonstone. Let's visit each other, what's the point.

I did not read the book, I only learned from the comments that Alice Rivers was the prophetess of Damon. I read about her - an interesting character, we will wait for further appearance.

P.S. Millie Alcock's appearance is entertaining - she sat in the frame for half a minute, scratched her neck. Well, then.
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
01 Jul 21:27 # Show original
@gkalian: maybe he's going to sleep with her brother now?
ovcharenko_kate
ovcharenko_kate
01 Jul 12:21 # Show original
A bit of a filial episode, but important for Rainier. Now there is definitely no way to avoid war, she has personally seen this.

I was glad to see Millie in the role of Rainira, I miss her! It was creepy the way she sewed on her head...
ElLoswen
ElLoswen
01 Jul 23:49 # Show original
In general, after Luke's death in the finale of the first season, it seemed that now Rainira realized that peace talks were no longer possible. But, as a result, almost half of the second season has already passed, and she is still gathering her thoughts.
ArinaO
ArinaO
02 Jul 10:50 # Show original
And he's doing the right thing. They're all going to die.
msokol
msokol
01 Jul 12:21 # Show original
I really liked the scenes at Harrenhal, there are so many ominous rumors about it... Creepy, creepy and gloomy. Damon is as lost as possible and doesn't realize what's going on. One of the scariest scenes turned out to be with young Rainira: "You come and go all the time, and then I have to clean up..." The actress, Millie, is gorgeous. And I am extremely glad to see her. Although Alice appeared for a short time, she has already made an extremely unusual impression (in a pleasant way). She doesn't have such strong vibes of a witch yet, but you already feel some kind of mystery and gloom in her image. In general, I really liked it. Show Alice some more, please...
lera_shakal
lera_shakal
01 Jul 12:23 # Show original
It feels like the series is preparing us for the first serious battle. We all know who will die and be healed in the next episode.
I was very pleased that Aegon finally stopped being justified and presented as traumatized. His bullying of Eamond, which has been going on since the first season, can now be seen in the second. Honestly, I won't even feel sorry for him after that very battle.)
Finally showed Alice and Harrenhal. The surroundings are very picturesque and mysterious. Like Alice herself, though. I'm sure Damon's hallucinations aren't the last of the season. I hope Alice will be revealed more, she is a very attractive character both in books and in the series.
It's very ambiguous about the last scene.
On the one hand, the meeting did not give anything practical. But on the other hand.... Now Alicent will not be able to convince herself that Viserys chose Aegon. And Rhaenyra has finally accepted the fact that war is inevitable. Even if Alicent had agreed with her, what would she have done? She has no power to resist what awaits them.
We can only wait and hope.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
02 Jul 15:31 # Show original
@lera_shakal: Now Alicent will not be able to convince herself that Viserys chose Aegon." She still didn't understand anything.
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
02 Jul 18:15 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: To tell the truth, Rainira didn't give a damn to her and didn't explain the cake
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
04 Jul 16:04 # Show original
@AtomicTroll: The scene is like in a Mexican soap opera, to be honest. Only there it could stretch the series for five (and so say nothing worthwhile in the end).))
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
05 Jul 15:03 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: so they stretched the Rainier snot by 3
msokol
msokol
01 Jul 12:26 # Show original
The conversation with Alicent and Rainira seemed a little strange to me, because both of them understand perfectly well that everything has gone too far and peace is no longer possible at this stage of the war. All that remains for Alicent is to keep lighting candles and watching everyone around her die. She has already lost all her power, and has no control over her sons. And Rhaenyra, as for me, after hearing the phrase about the promised prince from Alicent, she realized perfectly well that Viserys was not talking about the current Aegon. Her father told her about this prophecy only to her, he protected her all his life. She should have no doubt that the throne was promised to her. Besides, Alicent herself admits that Viserys was weak then. Nevertheless, she had some doubts about this, and, apparently, in the end, when there is nothing left around, only corpses, pain and tears, she finally realizes that she understood what she wanted to understand, and not what Viserys was really talking about. And Viserys certainly wasn't talking about Aegon II. In general, it is sad to see how both sides are now unable to reach some kind of peaceful solution. All that remains is to continue fighting, killing each other.
lera_shakal
lera_shakal
01 Jul 12:28 # Show original
I hope Millie will still be shown in Damon's hallucinations)
and I was pleased that Bail is being revealed more and more. Very brave, but also fierce
tortik_s_vishney
tortik_s_vishney
02 Jul 00:59 # Show original
@lera_shakal: Oh, that Damon. Not only did he slip away, but he also gets hooked on a small Rainier in the galloons. As much as possible. In the first season, I walked on the edge of pedophilia. An adult Rainier would be more appropriate here. But of course it would not have caused such a HYPE and a response from the viewer
msokol
msokol
02 Jul 12:40 # Show original
@tortik_s_vishney: you may be surprised, but the character Millie (young Rainira), when she went to a brothel with Damon (in the fourth series), was of age 🫡
devil_seed
devil_seed
03 Jul 15:31 # Show original
@tortik_s_vishney: it seems to me that young Rainira is quite appropriate, because this is the version that Damon likes best, but not because of her age, but because of his power over her then, his superiority. The current Rainier is a queen and above him, no matter how much he aspires to be His Highness, he is not a king, but only the husband of the queen and this greatly hurts his pride
tortik_s_vishney
tortik_s_vishney
03 Jul 18:51 # Show original
@msokol: I probably would have been surprised if I hadn't known this, but I've reviewed the series 5 times, and read books) and because the same actress played, including 14-year-old Rainier, for me she remained that way (Yes, I know that she was already looking for a husband in that series, and so on. Nevertheless, Millie's specific appearance and blonde hair in the compartment are perceived by me as a teenager under 16 years old and it was this vibe that I caught all the first 5 episodes). Imho at 18 people are more like what they look like at 25. But in this format they decided otherwise
tortik_s_vishney
tortik_s_vishney
03 Jul 19:04 # Show original
@devil_seed: Damon had pinched testicle syndrome from the very beginning and in the days of Rainira-Millie in almost every episode, because he had no power over her or his brother. She initially defied him, and then her brother also declared her an heiress. On the contrary, in the most dependent position, Rainira was already an adult at Lane's funeral
tortik_s_vishney
tortik_s_vishney
03 Jul 19:09 # Show original
@msokol: well, also in my first message there are words "on the edge ". I don't think he got up abruptly on her 18th birthday, and before that there were no hints and all his gifts were exclusively childish-uncle vibe
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
02 Jul 15:33 # Show original
@lera_shakal: A cool girl from a teen fantasy series? What is there to disclose?..
msokol
msokol
01 Jul 12:28 # Show original
I liked the fleeting scenes with Gwaine incredibly. Freddie Fox is simply gorgeous and perfectly embodied the image of Alicent's brother. It went very far as he trolled Kriston at the very beginning. Get that asshole in there! I just want more scenes with Gwaine! And it is desirable that he continue to troll this nedodesnitsa.
lera_shakal
lera_shakal
01 Jul 12:36 # Show original
@msokol: I'm laughing a lot from Kriston's necklace.... When I realized too seriously the importance of the right hand brooches and put on 20 pieces
pain_killer
pain_killer
01 Jul 21:18 # Show original
@lera_shakal: Kohl put on the canonical necklace of the right hand from the books
msokol
msokol
01 Jul 12:37 # Show original
I really like Helaina in this series. If it may seem that she is not grieving, it is not so at all. She is still grieving, she is still in pain, and this pain is felt in every word she says. Even in the moment where she forgives Alicent. SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO CRY ALL THE TIME to show her grief. The time for tears has passed. But besides, grief pushed her to realize, as for me. To the realization of what is happening. And there is a senseless war going on... where both children and adults die... and in general, many are innocent. I am madly in love with Helaine, and this season the character is being revealed perfectly.
slavash
slavash
10 Jul 20:01 # Show original
@msokol: Yes, they are already doing nothing there for 3 episodes, but only mourning. Not a TV series, but a funeral.
yofi
yofi
01 Jul 13:29 # Show original
Although I consider the conversation between Alicent and Rainira to be a silly scenario move at the end, I liked Rainira's face at the end, who was finally convinced that her father had not changed his mind about the heir. I liked this rigidity and confidence on her face, I hope in the next episode it will lead to the ability to make difficult decisions, rather than postponing them indefinitely.
Nitanael
Nitanael
PRO
01 Jul 13:58 # Show original
And the scenario is getting worse and worse…
It's more interesting to watch "The House that Dragons Built" than all this fan fiction by Kondal and Sarah Hess; at least you can admire the people who think through the scenery, build scenes, and so on.

I don't understand why they go down the path of "their ideas" if they have a completely completed story for the Dance. Okay, I don't have any original source left for the Game, but what's the problem here? I understand that every film adaptation departs from the book somewhere, but these are completely different characters and a completely different story, well, honestly ... most likely this season will be my last, I no longer want to kill my nerves and time for this. The actors are well done, the staff behind the scenes is well done, Kondala and Hess in the cold.

I wouldn't be so outraged over all the changes if they were at least a little logical and didn't break the characters, but this is some kind of hodgepodge of events that I'm not interested in.

I'd better review the first season once again; it's not without flaws either, but it's far from the dibilism of the second.
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
01 Jul 20:00 # Show original
@Nitanael: The book is a collection of rumors from different people who couldn't say anything 100 percent. So the events described in the book should not be taken as facts. This is not a Game of Thrones. Here, the screenwriters can add anything from themselves, because no one really knows how it was. They added a lot of themselves in the first season, it didn't spoil it, take that very scene with Rainis, who flew out of the ground on a dragon, she wasn't in the book, but it looked epic.
dashamrykalo
dashamrykalo
01 Jul 20:37 # Show original
it looked epic, but there is absolutely no point in this scene. they made Rainis look like an absolute fool who could end the war before it started. And on top of that, how many common people have you killed? Isn't that nonsense? you probably also liked the last seasons of the IP. there are also many beautiful, epic scenes, which, unfortunately, are completely devoid of logic. like both seasons of House of the Dragon, where logic from the category of "Denis forgot about the Greyjoy fleet", only here we have flat characters, none of whom wants to offend anyone, and conflicts - well, they are because of misunderstandings. Luke was accidentally killed, Elisent misunderstood Viserys, and so on. God, will they ever hire normal screenwriters who will have interesting, dynamic characters and an interesting plot. and there are so many filler scenes that don't reveal the characters. everyone is trampling and trampling around. ugh
vk507814
vk507814
01 Jul 21:34 # Show original
Yes, but the speculations of the screenwriters do not always go to the benefit of the plot
Hannah_Abbot
Hannah_Abbot
PRO
01 Jul 21:40 # Show original
@shizuoasa: It was the scene where Rainis flew out of the ground (although the dragon pit has another exit, and we saw it in the pilot) that started the series for me. "we wanted something epic"
natalieatem
natalieatem
02 Jul 13:47 # Show original
It might look epic, but it's such nonsense. I stopped watching after that. Because I no longer had the strength to look at such trash 🤦🏼♀️
Antis_Sekyt
Antis_Sekyt
12 Jul 15:42 # Show original
@Hannah_Abbot: I laughed bitterly in the same way when I watched a documentary about that series. "I thought it was a cool idea, it would be epic!" And think over the logic of an epic event? One "Drakaris" and not all the key faces of the greens. It looked so stupid. In the next episode, they tried to explain that she understands that there will be a war, but she will not be the one who struck first. And who would there be left to fight after this strike? And the people who died in batches as a result of the epic takeoff are purely so - expendable? The creators do not like to think out such trifles, the desire for epic wins.
fs_ann
fs_ann
13 Jul 23:16 # Show original
@Antis_Sekyt: Well, the ordinary plebs are really worthless in the eyes of the sovereigns. But the reason why Rainis didn't strike is rather different. She, who had lost her children, saw in Alicent's eyes the same fear for her child when she covered Aegon with her body. Every mother would sacrifice herself if only the child would survive. It's not about prudence or the right strategic decisions, it's about the response in the depths of the mother's soul. So Rhaenys restrained her dragonish ardor.
llnachtigall
llnachtigall
01 Jul 14:32 # Show original
The good old tradition of making night scenes completely opaque persists.

Aegon Chet is a completely shameful cretin, somehow Alicent overlooked that the eldest son has the manners of a groom. Kriston is not put in anything by the knights under his control, it's cool.

Helaine feels very sorry, especially at the moment when she realizes that even her own mother does not care about her grief. In general, Alicent as a mother was a success. On the other hand, where can she take an example if her own father put her under the grandfather-king at the time.

Rainier is shown to be very soft.

Harrenhal is impressive!
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
01 Jul 20:01 # Show original
@llnachtigall: maybe you need to increase the brightness of the screen? I had no problems with the night scenes.
llnachtigall
llnachtigall
01 Jul 23:08 # Show original
@shizuoasa: in general, it really depends on the screen matrix, you're right, it looks darker on a laptop than on a monitor with high color reproduction. But still, comparing the night scenes in other TV series is not in favor of the IP. Maybe they do it for the sake of reliability, they say, there are few light sources at night in the Middle Ages and prada, I don't know.
shizuoasa
shizuoasa
09 Jul 02:20 # Show original
@llnachtigall: I just watch in the evenings with artificial lighting, maybe you watch during the day, so naturally it will be worse to see.
slavash
slavash
10 Jul 20:07 # Show original
@llnachtigall: Everything is clearly visible on my OLED TV with HDR, but the picture in the series is really dark. She is also heavily discolored with going green, which is why some characters look like corpses at times.
Mrs_Bennington
Mrs_Bennington
01 Jul 14:54 # Show original
Damon, as always, thinks ahead.

Missaria is a good trump card for Rainira, I'm very glad that everything turned out that way.

Laris, though a vile character, is still a beauty, knows which levers to press.

Aegon is just a pig.

Rainis on the council is simply: ‘DEATH MAI GEEEEEL'. but I want more determination from Rainira, otherwise somehow it doesn't look like wisdom and an attempt to avoid bloodshed, but rather as weakness. At least she sent the children away, even though it was hard to watch.

Milliiiiii 🥰

Rainira, of course, is a very brave woman to pull off such tricks. I understand it in a purely human way: here it is necessary to personally make sure that it is accurate, that's 100% there is no other way. but all the same, it was somehow very rash on her part. ‘I got off to a bad start’ 😁 Alicent's face is priceless: ‘that's what I was so stupid.’ It's just a pity that it's really too late. Rather, it was just a reassurance to Rainira that Dad wasn't completely out of his mind and hadn't betrayed her. Well, the double pain of realizing that there might not have been all this nightmare, however, there is little point in this anymore, Annushka, as they say, has already spilled the oil.
voronrun
voronrun
01 Jul 15:44 # Show original
finally, nudity and self-purchase, congratulations to all who were missing!!!)))
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
02 Jul 15:40 # Show original
@voronrun: Two seconds of copulation with anonymous characters? Whatever...
voronrun
voronrun
02 Jul 16:32 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: Oh, a mistake))) maybe in order for me to remember now how to spell "copulation" correctly, damn, I had to write about the throat, there is a test About under stress, soryan)))
vk922554
vk922554
01 Jul 16:18 # Show original
Apparently, everyone liked Millie too much that they had to return her at least like that 😅
Roman1ch
Roman1ch
01 Jul 16:27 # Show original
Why Millie Alcock was only brought in for a short episode 🥹 in general, all the scenes in Harenhol are the best in the series. There will be a war next
shishkina_vika
shishkina_vika
01 Jul 16:54 # Show original
George Martin once said:

"No matter how outstanding the author is, no matter how wonderful the book is, there will always be someone who thinks they can do better, who is eager to take the story and improve it. But they never make it better. In nine hundred and ninety-nine cases out of a thousand, they make it worse."

The screenwriters have already given up on the existence of the book. If in the IP it was possible to justify some moments and actions of the screenwriters by the fact that the story is not finished and there are no books, THEN THERE IS LITERALLY A FRAGMENT of DANCING, an absolutely finished part of "Fire and blood" about Rainira and Aegon. And it's okay to add a little of your own, but then they just change everything in a row, even sad.

I can't understand what is being done with Eamond's storyline, I can't even describe it. Thanks only to Ewan Mitchell for playing Eamond and it helps to take out all that pizdec that is being done with his character.

I was pleased with Harrenhal, even very much, such a gloomy atmosphere, that's exactly what I imagined. Alice Rivers has finally been shown. Well, this reference to the battle over God's eye, when Alice tells Damon about death and shows the river itself in the background, where this battle should be.
I also liked Gwaine and Millie's appearance in hallucinations 🤌🏻
natalieatem
natalieatem
02 Jul 13:54 # Show original
It's not even a matter of what is being changed, but how it is being changed. In the IP, everything had consequences, decisions, something was not done by accident and there was nothing for it. There are pianos in the bushes all around, unexplained actions, motivation of the characters - well, it's simple like that. You don't believe anything that's just happening. You don't empathize with the characters.
Scandias
Scandias
04 Jul 22:54 # Show original
@shishkina_vika: is it okay that Martin is involved in the creation of the series?))
shishkina_vika
shishkina_vika
09 Jul 21:43 # Show original
I'm aware, can you imagine))))))) but the explanation of the books I'm writing about is the idea of the screenwriters. They talk about this repeatedly in interviews. About your own vision of the book and thinking out the details.
number2319
number2319
01 Jul 17:29 # Show original
And I've been talking about this conversation between Rainira and Alicent since the first season. I knew this was going to happen! Literally my comment is "I do not know why, but I really want to see the conversation between Alicent and Rainira. A la A: "Viserys wanted Aegon to become king, these are his last words", R: "I don't believe it, say that he said word for word" A:"He says everything Viserys said," Rainira explains her true meaning, and then the look of Alicent, who understood what did I do and BOOM, spark, storm, madness, regret..." that's what I wrote 2 years ago!!! The only thing that hurts is that Alicent never admitted her mistake. But I was close anyway)
10anya_d
10anya_d
01 Jul 17:40 # Show original
Probably, of all the characters, Rainis remains the most adequate... Rainira keeps saying, my throne, my throne, while so far there has been no progress towards the conquest of this throne... Damon is trying to do something there, Baila is scouting the areas, Rainier is trying to call Alicent to conscience, well, yes... in this episode, it was a pity for Reina, although this trip will really save her life and give her a bright future)
opheliozz
opheliozz
01 Jul 18:33 # Show original
The series is like the calm before the storm.

and I got the wildest alarm when Damon was in his room with the doors locked with swords, listening and peering at those walkers behind the doors. It's a creepy scene.
Kloun
Kloun
01 Jul 19:06 # Show original
Given the level of security at King's Landing, Rainira could have taken her dragon with her.
https://i.ibb.co/0QnvxbW/syrax.png
bvvvvvvvvvvv
bvvvvvvvvvvv
01 Jul 19:26 # Show original
Are THESE THE SAME dragon eggs?)
Bart182
Bart182
01 Jul 19:58 # Show original
@bvvvvvvvvvvv: not in the book, but in the series they can pass it off as the same ones.
bvvvvvvvvvvv
bvvvvvvvvvvv
01 Jul 20:02 # Show original
They are also shown here in certain colors. Maybe there will be non-lazy viewers who will compare them)
Bart182
Bart182
01 Jul 20:14 # Show original
@bvvvvvvvvvvv: According to the director of episode 3, Geeta Vasant Patel, the answer is yes. "These are Daenerys' eggs," Patel confirmed. "All of us who work on this series are big fans of Game of Thrones, so filming this scene was very exciting."
It_is_different
It_is_different
01 Jul 19:43 # Show original
"Dragons" have gone completely into drama. " Thrones" were still more balanced: here someone will be stabbed, here someone will be fucked, here you have dark jokes, here you have funny jokes, the chemistry was between the characters (Littlefinger and Varys, the Dog and Aria, etc.). And now it feels like you're watching some kind of depressing theatrical play. Yes, expensive and high-quality, but it's already starting to annoy.
shine_shine
shine_shine
01 Jul 23:08 # Show original
How well they described what I feel, but could not formulate it)) But I still love the Dragon House because of the universe. 🫶
Hidji
Hidji
02 Jul 05:27 # Show original
@It_is_different: I agree, I spoke in about the same spirit under the second episode. A friend says that DD is being turned into a Turkish TV series))).
Nastya2416
Nastya2416
01 Jul 19:44 # Show original
The series came out as a passing one. Something didn't really catch on. The conversation between Alicent and Rainira does not seem to me to be of great benefit. Rainira is too kind to her. He is looking for ways to avoid war, although it is already coming for me. The blood has already poured out and it is impossible to stop it with some kind of conversation.
bvvvvvvvvvvv
bvvvvvvvvvvv
01 Jul 20:01 # Show original
High-end music

High timing (thanks!)

Something epic awaits in the next episode 🔥
chickchirik
chickchirik
01 Jul 20:25 # Show original
So far, the most successful episode of the 2nd season for me. It's the calm before the storm, when the air is just charged with energy and you don't know where it's going to be.

All the new characters just flew in. From Alicent's brother-in-law to Strong, who has no love for his relative Laris. In general, I liked all the scenes in Harrenhal. And Alice, and Damon's glitches.

And finally, the dragon's offspring are slowly introduced.
rynsk
rynsk
01 Jul 20:56 # Show original
Well, we are waiting, sir, when the conch Laris will also come to Aegon to jerk off on his rough heels as payment for his services.
shine_shine
shine_shine
01 Jul 23:11 #
😂😂😅
marinadepeche
marinadepeche
01 Jul 23:29 # Show original
The best comment on the series))))
__Алиса__
__Алиса__
03 Jul 23:23 # Show original
I'm sorry, but this is hysterical 🤣🤣🤣
Juullietta
Juullietta
01 Jul 20:58 # Show original
Alicent's brother is just a cannon, very handsome 🤤
Well, I want to note that Rainier suits the clothes of a nun, yes, I know the comments are not as abstruse as everyone else, but it seemed to me that it was also worth noting
HouseMD
HouseMD
01 Jul 21:06 # Show original
Basically, everything is in the subject: after the appearance of cutie Millie Alcock, I also wanted to sing "Lord have Mercy"
kathrine_adams
kathrine_adams
01 Jul 21:14 # Show original
There are probably fewer cool moments in this series than in the previous ones. I was impressed by the moment of Damon's gals and in general his view of this once great, but now completely leaky castle. It's great that they paid a lot of attention to Aegon, although he is presented here again in an extremely unsightly way. He surrounded himself with fellow backup singers (by the way, why did they all immediately become knights of the royal guard, because only Arrick vacated the place), is guided by every manipulation, mocks Aymond - in general, a dream, not a king. Only Helaina remembers about the dead child along the way. There's also Gwaine, but he still gives the impression of a completely frivolous guy, as if he went on a picnic, not to fight.
Rainira and Alicent's conversation left a strange impression. It seems like they figured out some points, but the fact that it took place raises a lot of questions. I know there was nothing like that in the book, but it's not that that bothers me, but how clumsily they were just brought together in one place. So any killer can be sent to Alicent.
At least in the fourth series it will definitely be hot))
UliaChayka
UliaChayka
01 Jul 21:40 # Show original
Give me a dragon egg too 🥺🦖
I hope the series will be extended further, it's interesting to see a series of episodes🙃
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
01 Jul 21:41 # Show original
It's really, really good... one minus - well, why was this throat blowjob needed, and then a demonstration of a one-eyed little dick? And anyway, this whole scene in the brothel is just some kind of anti-Stanislavsky... he screams right in three throats - I DON'T BELIEVE IT!
Hidji
Hidji
02 Jul 05:30 # Show original
@MarkRaffer: For some reason, the scenes with brothels looked quite appropriate and organic in the IP, but here... A hack job, damn it).
Hannah_Abbot
Hannah_Abbot
PRO
01 Jul 22:07 # Show original
I liked the scene with Millie Alcock and Matt Smith, I just wanted to learn more about Harrenhal (oh, wonderful scenes with Tywin and Arya there).
Freddie Fox doesn't look like Gwaine, whom we saw at the tournament))) He follows in the footsteps of a Mountain that has been recast several times.
It's been 3(5) episodes, and we still haven't seen Aegon and Helaine's dragons...
Alice Rivers doesn't look twice as old as Eamond, and she has some hostile vibes, so that babies are given to her for years to breastfeed; but I wonder what will happen.
The scene in the brothel made me a little sick, Eamond's loyalty is almost one of his main qualities, I hope that the screenwriters are not going to prescribe a fight for the throne for them.
Well, about rewriting - somehow I don't like that for the second season they are bending the line that "it's all the men's fault, but the girls are for world peace, they fly off into the sunset on dragons, everyone is happy," as if there were no bloody empresses and queens in the world...
And yet in the scene in the church, I couldn't stop confusing Emma with Alyona - when I saw the photo for the 1st season, I thought that her career went right well after the Chick, but no ((((
Hannah_Abbot
Hannah_Abbot
PRO
02 Jul 00:09 # Show original
@Hannah_Abbot: I forgot to write that I'm glad Geeta Patel is back - she was filming episode 1x8 with this beautiful Viserys rising from the coffin and walking to the throne for her daughter
Scandias
Scandias
04 Jul 22:56 # Show original
@Hannah_Abbot: damn, yes, I also think all the time how D'arsi and Mikhailova look like)))
nicolemeadow
nicolemeadow
01 Jul 22:08 # Show original
Harrenhal is incredible. an absolutely creepy and magical place.
the main sin of Alicent and Otto is that. That they've been hiding her handsome brother from us all this time.
and what would all the rulers do without their spies and advisers, eh. nothing
Jeronimoo
Jeronimoo
01 Jul 22:20 # Show original
Honestly, the 2nd series wasn't very good for me, especially the conflict between Rainira and Damon it was just a tin, I didn't expect him to leave, he had to be next to her and support her, then maybe everything will work out, well, it's clear that she may be angry, but she gave the go-ahead..I don't think that Rainira is weak, she doesn't look like her father at all, even in her youth she seemed very strong and independent to me))I liked the scene between Rainira and Allisenta, although I don't believe her, she could have tried,I somehow got a little excited about Rainira, only I thought that she would be a strong and domineering person, and this manifestation of weakness can not be changed for sure, especially the name of the next series speaks for itself,wars Not to be avoided!!!Maybe it was necessary for her to be convinced of this, maybe she had a little hope!And now she knows that her father only saw her as a ruler and saw confidence and strength in her again! God, how I was blown away when I saw Millie, it was just that my laughter couldn't be stopped, how unexpected it was, I didn't know that she starred in season 2, how I liked her in the role of young Rainira, I just remembered the first season and thought how little she was and here she was..Well, beautiful!!!A very mysterious image, I hope it will appear again!I want more Millie seriously!!)))
Matt's game at this moment when he saw her, well, just fire, yes it's glitches, but how beautifully filmed (tears I just can't)!!!!
Damon is so handsome, I can't!!!but it's clear that he's not himself, that this is happening to him at all and that it was, but still these glitches are a cool move!We must definitely start reading books to find out everything about Alice and in general everything that happened this season))
It remains now to wait and hope for a better outcome, the battle is definitely coming!
vika_199929
vika_199929
01 Jul 22:35 # Show original
Just me and Rainier and Alicent?👀
sad_targaryen
sad_targaryen
PRO
01 Jul 23:34 # Show original
No, there's a whole army of shippers on Twitter))))
persephoneia
persephoneia
11 Jul 00:17 # Show original
@sad_targaryen: there are also actresses who warm us up with their chemistry in all sorts of interviews 😂
CraftLawrence
CraftLawrence
01 Jul 22:37 # Show original
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shine_shine
shine_shine
01 Jul 23:17 # Show original
After the final minutes of the series, there was only one thing in my head: "The bets are made, gentlemen, there are no more bets." I will support the above comments about the oppressive calm before the storm 😬
myhavkedah
myhavkedah
01 Jul 23:34 # Show original
Well, guys, breasts and blowjob have finally appeared by the third episode, so the rest will appear soon 👌🏼
gena_gorkov
gena_gorkov
02 Jul 00:12 # Show original
Lord have mercy
poly6poly
poly6poly
PRO
02 Jul 00:38 # Show original
This scene gives me the creeps💔
Matt Smith and Millie Alcock played great, I missed their interaction!
tortik_s_vishney
tortik_s_vishney
02 Jul 00:41 # Show original
Finally, meat and sex, otherwise I thought everyone would continue to cover up and not show how it is.
There are conflicting feelings from Rainira Jr.
The scene in the Great Sept is the strongest, but sometimes it takes a long time to get to the action.
Hidji
Hidji
02 Jul 05:31 # Show original
Kolyan, why didn't you shave your head, but so modestly shortened it, because it's about time))).
D_Jennifer_M
D_Jennifer_M
PRO
02 Jul 10:52 # Show original
"Genius refers to the great"
ArinaO
ArinaO
02 Jul 11:10 # Show original
The scene in the brothel is, of course, a Spanish shame. But... shouldn't the hair underneath be white too? 😅
Hidji
Hidji
02 Jul 13:43 # Show original
@ArinaO: in fact, Targaryens are not albinos, it's just that their children turn gray with fear at birth because of the fact that... What's going on around, but only with your head😁
Eva_Satanic
Eva_Satanic
03 Jul 00:33 # Show original
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Eva_Satanic
Eva_Satanic
03 Jul 00:34 # Show original
@ArinaO: they missed that moment on their eyebrows. Almost all Targaryens/velaryens in the TV series have dark eyebrows
Dark_Alice
Dark_Alice
03 Jul 12:30 # Show original
@Eva_Satanic: in the first season of the IP, they tried to lighten their eyebrows, but then they scored. Apparently, the expressiveness of the look is lost. In the Defiance series, there was a Tarr family somewhat resembling the Targaryens. You can use the example of Datak Tarr to see what it looks like.
Eva_Satanic
Eva_Satanic
04 Jul 08:35 # Show original
@Dark_Alice: Yes, that's how the Targaryens were supposed to look)
Eva_Satanic
Eva_Satanic
03 Jul 01:08 # Show original
@ArinaO: in general, I revised it for the sake of interest, since I did not focus my attention on the causal places - there is no hair there. It's a shadow, like even the undersides are bare. Especially when compared with the thickets from the frame with a blowjob earlier...
frostygerda
frostygerda
05 Jul 19:47 # Show original
@ArinaO: I'll laugh and answer everyone at once. Valuable information from a natural blonde. The hair there is darker than on the head, even if you are blond, they are light brown at the bottom
Hidji
Hidji
05 Jul 21:27 # Show original
@frostygerda: You look like a classic blonde from jokes. They usually blurt it out, so at least stand, at least fall))). Targaryens are albinos, not blondes. They should have no hair pigmentation at all. Completely! Do you understand? Oh, yes, that's what I'm talking about....
Hidji
Hidji
08 Jul 00:08 # Show original
@Hidji: blondes hesitated, apparently in real life they do not know what albinism is). I was joking, but it turned out to be true😆
limbo
limbo
14 Jul 07:05 #
@frostygerda: ПРУФ!
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
02 Jul 12:13 # Show original
"It's not her who craves blood, but the men around her" - that's the whole message of the series🤦🏼♀️ Terrible men torture poor women.

Gwaine is a ray of light in this dark realm.

Laris - well, what a smart bug. I didn't like him so much in the first season, but it's interesting to watch him here.

The creators did not come up with anything more stupid than how to arrange a meeting between Rainira and Alicent

Did they leave the battle behind the scenes? They promised that there would be a lot of battles this season and where is it all?
EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
02 Jul 12:24 # Show original
This scene is only needed for memes😁
scarcelyinside
scarcelyinside
02 Jul 13:02 # Show original
I was very pleased with the presentation of the dialogue:
— I'm claiming Harrenhal.
— Apparently so.

The sound design/mixing in the scenes at Harrenhal is awesome, by the way. Everything creaks, crunches, the sound of drops on Damon's armor, I had a real asmr experience.

It's a great series, in my opinion. About the reasons and reasons for the war.
At first, this is another brawl between the Brackens and the Blackwoods out of the blue, because even they themselves do not know where their feud began at all. Then Reinis says that no one will say exactly at what point the war began.
The last scene with Rainira and Alicent's dialogue, where they both realize that all this shit started with a misunderstanding, is very well played. Well, yes, it is controversial in terms of the likelihood of such a dialogue between them in general, but it works for drama. The war was due to the fact that Alicent did not know the context, and Aegon was a traditional name. Such a small thing, it would seem, but everything will end with a mountain of corpses.
voronrun
voronrun
02 Jul 13:18 # Show original
There's something wrong with Sonoya Mizuno as Misaria, most of her time is in the background, from the back, from the side, or even offscreen. Maybe she doesn't know how and doesn't get into the role. She's obviously being cut.
queenmarishka
queenmarishka
02 Jul 13:24 # Show original
The series is about nothing
id280357907
id280357907
02 Jul 16:00 # Show original
Reinice had a lobotomy and she began to cite the example of the old king who usurped her TWICE👏🏻 And how did she justify to Alicent that she was such a poor unhappy woman, she didn't want anything bad, but bad and evil men did everything for her? Why do they make a compassionate moralist out of her? She personally crushed a dozen people with a huge dragon, I don't see her emotional lamentations. All of Jace's decisions and actions are given to other characters, he just walks around doing nothing, why do that? The dumbest thing Rainyra could have done was go to the harbor to chat with Alicent. I don't understand, how can she stop the war at all? Both of her sons are crazy and quite grown-up, she is the dowager queen, she LITERALLY has no power other than a figurehead of the royal family, no one listens to her at the council, what did Rainira want to achieve? Why does the series make it look like the war started after the death of Helaina's child? Did you just forget about luceris? He was the first victim. The battle at the beginning of the series was simply skipped, although it could have been at least one impressive scene. You can already accept that everything differs from the book in a completely stupid way, but there is simply no common sense in this. If season 1 could still be tolerated somehow (and that's difficult), then the second one looks very hard. And of course, I would never believe that Balon had a bastard, why take the most noble and loving Targ and prescribe it? The screenwriters could name anyone as a father, except Balon
zula22
zula22
02 Jul 17:11 # Show original
a big chair made of swords. Damon is my favorite character. How worried I am about him. Here's his b in kings
AshleyChangeling
AshleyChangeling
02 Jul 18:02 # Show original
I'm yelling at the fact that the peasants have again been offended by the story about the confrontation between the two queens. The original source, by the way, was written by a man, and he didn't pinch anything. He also wrote a bunch of great female characters in PLiO, capable of making decisions, lol. In fact, it is: men just want to fight, women to sort it out. Even at the stage of pregnancy, this is perfectly visible to everyone who has an intelligence level slightly higher than a garbage rat, and who does not live in an information vacuum.

According to the series, everything is very clear and understandable. Rainira is the daughter of her father, he was nicknamed Peaceful for a reason. But she got determination from her mother: we saw it when she flew away to take the dragon egg from Damon. It is clear that she wanted to find out everything for herself before making a decision.: She doesn't want a war, but she needs to make sure she's not wrong. And, of course, Rainier has no way to know that Alicent is no longer making decisions, so she went to talk to her, try to persuade her to put pressure on her son and the council.

And yes, Daenerys won her throne for 7 seasons, just a reminder. Somewhere else in the course of the plot, I decided not to go. DD only the second season is being filmed, I don't really get a taste of what the problem is with people who are in debt.

EyeOfTheRaven
EyeOfTheRaven
PRO
02 Jul 19:26 # Show original
@AshleyChangeling that's right, Martin wrote amazing female characters, and the creators of the series flushed them down the toilet.
raziel2011
raziel2011
02 Jul 22:18 # Show original
@AshleyChangeling: so. At first, as a man laughing at men who are being insulted, I set a lois, but then I got sad because of a crazy idea like "a woman is a mother, a woman does not kill non-aggressive and holy. ALWAYS". A harmful message, you also throw it so aggressively, of course, everyone will be offended) There is simply no difference between the rule of a woman or a man, there are only individual qualities. Attributing qualities to gender, nation, or something else is exactly the same shit. Well, the history of even Russian rulers shows that bloodlust does not decrease from gender, if it exists.

But I still support strong women and weak warrior men against the agenda in the comments.
korfushka
korfushka
04 Jul 21:25 # Show original
@AshleyChangeling: Martin has written amazing and diverse women. clever Alicent, who organized the Green Party, kept her husband's body in the bedroom for two days to pull off an intrigue and crown her son (she was the organizer of the conspiracy, not Otto). Furious Rainice, who was held by the whole village so that after killing Luke she would not fly to burn King's landing right now. Rhaenyra, who talked about Aegon, either I get my throne or his head. Martin's women were purposeful, had ambitions and their own opinions, and did not endlessly call for peace, deceived and manipulated by a crowd of men. Kondal has made absolutely all women naive innocent victims. "our women are so weak, so unhappy, so unable to discern intrigues, they are in no way able to show aggression, even when their child is killed" – this is anything but feminism.
limbo
limbo
14 Jul 07:08 #
@AshleyChangeling: Мартин — старый жирный куколд.
limbo
limbo
14 Jul 07:10 #
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krashunicorn
krashunicorn
02 Jul 18:02 # Show original
Can someone please explain why Damon is called a prince if he is literally the king-husband-of-Queen-Rainira? Why the greens can call him that is understandable, but literally at a meeting of the black council he was called prince several times
10anya_d
10anya_d
02 Jul 18:57 # Show original
@krashunicorn: because he is the Prince Consort, he cannot be the king, otherwise it would mean that he has a higher status than Rainira the queen... literally translated into our world, Prince Philip was not a king, although he was the husband of Queen Elizabeth
krashunicorn
krashunicorn
02 Jul 19:02 # Show original
Thanks for the answer! I never thought about it, I still thought that husband and wife rule together, but someone is secretly more important, for example, Alicent became queen after marriage, but she didn't decide much.. live and learn forever)
10anya_d
10anya_d
02 Jul 19:13 # Show original
@krashunicorn: when a king marries, his wife receives the title of queen, because it is believed that the queen is lower in status than the king.... but in the opposite direction it does not work that way) therefore, Alicent is the queen mother, the dowager queen, Helaina is the queen ... and Damon remained the prince.. Though a consort
Jammm
Jammm
18 Jul 02:32 #
I think he has to become king-consort (like not the real king, but husband of a queen). But some people still call him Prince by mistake because Rainira is unofficial queen just for those who are loyal to her, so they keep calling Daemon Prince just as they would before.
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
18 Jul 10:28 #
@krashunicorn: мужа королевы Елизаветы тоже называли принцем.
noir_character
noir_character
02 Jul 21:07 # Show original
I was waiting for Baila to at least try to set Kolya's heels on fire and AT LEAST SOME KIND of movement would begin, but no..

Well, apparently there will be active actions only in the next episode.. I just flattered myself with the promise of the creators of the series to make this season much more spectacular and full of battles (including on dragons) than the first one.. I hope that they will accelerate the pace at least in the next episodes.

On the plus side: I really liked the scenes in the atmospheric and mysterious Harrenhal and how organically Damon looked there. I even caught some vibes of my favorite Wuthering Heights for some reason.
I was interested in the mysterious Alice Rivers (I really hope that she will be shown more often, because the series lacks charismatic characters in my personal opinion).
I was hooked by the episode with the Blackwoods and the Brackens, and especially this contrasting transition from the frame with the border quarrel of the boys to the results of their massacre.
And - although the very fact of Rainira and Alicent's conversation at this stage was stupid - I liked the fact that they seemed to have completely closed the gestalts for each of themselves; and how cool this scene was played by Emma and Olivia. ❤️
Mango__
Mango__
02 Jul 22:59 # Show original
I liked Damon's visions with young Rainira in Harrenhal, I hope she will appear again! Damon is my love, I wish there was more of him!
The meeting between Rainira and Alicent is very stupid in meaning, but it looks very cool.
In general, the series is about nothing, the weakest of all.
Patologoanatom
Patologoanatom
02 Jul 23:08 # Show original
Surely every second commentator has already written about this, but what was Rainira waiting for when she came to talk to Alicent? That she would realize that she was mistaken, mistaking the near-death delusion for reality, sprinkle ashes on her head and give up the crown? Crows have been sent out, oaths of allegiance to the new king have been brought, and Aegon II himself is unlikely to agree to give up power so easily, having thoroughly tasted it.

I really expected Baila to set Kohl's ass on fire with a dragon, but... eh!
Liza
Liza
02 Jul 23:33 # Show original
Very beautiful costumes and decorations this season, and especially in this series - armor, swords, even the silent sister's costume was sewn somehow beautifully and according to Rainier's figure, and even Millie Alcock's momentary appearance was decorated with a very beautiful outfit.

And there were spoilers from Alice Rivers along the way
limbo
limbo
14 Jul 07:12 #
@Liza: ты бы почитала что-нибудь про доспехи перед написанием комментария

Дебилы-латники без шлемов и горжетов — это прямо красиво, да.
Eva_Satanic
Eva_Satanic
03 Jul 00:27 # Show original
Harrenhal is a separate frighteningly beautiful thing that caught the eye in this series... 🖤
And Baila's dragon (give me the strength to remember all the names of the series, with my tight memory for names) is beautiful. White dragons are generally in kokoro.
Scenes in a brothel are a separate feature of the sole proprietor, so no comments here 😏
The scene with the child and little Rainira is something with something... Again, the ghosts of Harenhall remind us of themselves.
Rainira's meeting with Alicent is useless and not over. If Rainira understood what she was talking about, why didn't she just tell her that? She just asked if Viserys had told her about the song and fell silent. Well, what was she waiting for anyway? That Alya is like this: oh, yes, I misunderstood, I'm going to throw my son off the throne right now, take him to your health. So?
There was very little of Eamond. Considering that it was partly because of him that it all started (although as Rainis said, who already remembers. Whether it was the murder of his son, or the fact that he gouged out Eamond's eye). I hope the Persian is not being drained.
I would also like to know what happened to Leinor. Rainis still thinks that he was killed in a special way so that Damon and Rainira's marriage would take place.
fs_ann
fs_ann
03 Jul 01:04 # Show original
The scene with Eamond in the brothel is caught off guard, in the fetal position, in the arms of a prostitute, and his brother with his taunts and ridicule. It would seem that anyone shrank, covered himself with the first rag he came across and ran away from there in disgrace. And this Apollo proudly straightened up, spreading his loins, and walked off into the sunset with his head held high 🌅
ekko
ekko
03 Jul 03:25 # Show original
Oh, the times have come- instead of the aesthetic appearance of a woman's breasts, you need to look at peasant hangers. Save me from such nudity.

The message about the noble ladies that they wished for good, and the bloodthirsty stupid men ruined everything, of course, that's another circus.

And again, salt on the wound of fans-we all know that the prophecies about Azor Ahai and so on will not work, Aegon has captured Westeros, but a completely left-wing character will save the world.

But the action in Harenhall and Harenhall itself is chic.
Iamthewinter
Iamthewinter
03 Jul 18:10 #
Я читаю первое предложение с таким лицом, ну вы как будто ИП не смотрели.)
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
03 Jul 18:44 # Show original
@ekko: does the patriarchy require that only its aesthetic needs be satisfied?
ekko
ekko
03 Jul 18:48 # Show original
@AtomicTroll: I am not speaking on behalf of the patriarchate, only on my own behalf. And the bias towards male nudity on TV is now obvious.
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
03 Jul 18:51 # Show original
@ekko: you're not lucky
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
04 Jul 16:12 # Show original
@AtomicTroll: The matriarchy, to be honest, does not like these hangers either. )) It's funny that men still don't know. A woman may like eroticism, but without the direct display of the genitals. The view of the hangers themselves is liked by units, alas. )) (These are statistics, if anything.)
voronrun
voronrun
05 Jul 18:07 #
@PianoOnTheLake: обнажение Эймонда подчеркивало его унижение, которое он «по-мужски» преодолел))), да и вся сцена в борделе вряд ли должна была вызвать у кого-то сексуальное возбуждение, ну может только у самых отчаянных фанатов. Кстати, статистика порнхаба не сходится с вашей.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
07 Jul 14:47 # Show original
@voronrun: Statistics of M/W visits? So visiting by women does not refute the above. They just like something else about what they see and hear (movements, sounds, facial expressions). In the process, the excess is usually hidden in a natural way. )) Now, if there was a video consisting entirely of showing a male household, I can hardly imagine who would watch it. )) Well, maybe passive gays.
voronrun
voronrun
07 Jul 17:58 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: There are statistics on the categories of women, but I'm not going to persuade you, if you don't want to, don't look, and I think that your position is worthy of respect, like any other.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
09 Jul 15:41 # Show original
@voronrun: The statistics of the porn site already sin with a very specific selection. Okay, that's not the point. ))
limbo
limbo
14 Jul 07:14 #
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Dark_Alice
Dark_Alice
03 Jul 10:31 # Show original
Damon in Harrenhal is like a Demon's Souls of some kind.
Scandias
Scandias
04 Jul 23:01 # Show original
@Dark_Alice: Yes, I remembered the DS3, especially with the local armor. And complete obscurity around the corner 💀
Nonelementary
Nonelementary
03 Jul 12:21 # Show original
Aegon is so hysterical. Those screams and stabbings on the table. Even Joffrey was more serious and looked more authoritative against his background. And this one is pretending to be some kind of Joker. Well, he sits hunched over the council, like a gopnik on the steps. You can immediately see the royal bearing and manners. Only there are not enough grubs through the nose. We didn't work out the image to the end, I think.

For some reason, the creators of the "Crown", who filmed about real monarchs, thought of showing that the elite holds on, speaks and behaves in a special way, that every gesture and look there matters and they have been taught etiquette since childhood. And when it comes to fantasy queens and kings, these are ordinary Vasyans from my neighborhood.

Well, the royals do not even disdain to go to brothels on their own, fuck on the same beds as the rabble. What can we say about privacy? There's the scene with Eamond—has no one ever pulled back his curtains in the middle of a trial before? And what prevents you from ordering whores to your room so that no one will disturb you, as Tyrion did? Or straight to the royal chambers, as Bobby Baratheon and even Joffrey and Ros did, damn it? Even Viserys took a whore to his tent on a campaign with khalasar. Well, seriously fuck, I'm already sick of this nonsense.

I'm not talking about security, about the fact that you have a war and there may be conspirators, that in this brothel in the crowd they can stab you with a knife and never find the killer, that they can poison you with food and wine.
And I'm not talking about the fact that there should be whores for the rabble, and elite whores for the gentlemen. This shithouse, where both princes looked at once, does not even come close to the brothel of Littlefinger. Is it possible to imagine that nowadays some oligarch will pick up girls on the highway, instead of expensive escort girls with certificates? And this is not even an oligarch, this is the king and the prince, his mother. He should have a whole harem of clean, washed concubines, who are fucked only by him and no one else, not half a dozen 🤦♀️🤦♀️
Nonelementary
Nonelementary
03 Jul 12:21 # Show original
@Nonelementary:
Why is Damon having these visions? Have the creators seen enough of "The Sopranos" and decided that they can do the same? Did you want to show the ghosts of Harrenhal like that? So why didn't Arya have such badtraps? A very cheap fanservice. The audience fell in love with Millie Alcock — well, here's a minute cameo for you, come on, don't mess around, you can start screaming with delight. Mmmm, I don't feel like it.
zaiKS
zaiKS
09 Jul 15:12 # Show original
@Nonelementary: Maybe Arya had no regrets... She's like nobody, she's been trained. And Damon is very sorry in his heart that the child was killed.
fs_ann
fs_ann
13 Jul 23:25 # Show original
@Nonelementary: Perhaps the image of young Rainira is just that sore point of Damon. I don't know, he seems to love her, but somewhere deep down he hates her. Because he kept trying to prove to Viserys that he was worthy of becoming an heir, that he could be trusted, and in the end he lost to the girl. And now I've lost her trust too.
voronrun
voronrun
03 Jul 22:58 # Show original
Down with slatshaming!!! You're giving a Parade of whores to King's Landing!!! But who is the main whore in Westeros?! Tell me what is his name?! ))))
Scandias
Scandias
04 Jul 23:03 # Show original
@Nonelementary: you dig into the history)) it's just that TV shows are filmed about worthy monarchs (and even then, not always), in fact, everything happened.
Nonelementary
Nonelementary
05 Jul 12:04 # Show original
@Scandias: So what does dignity have to do with it? it's about comfort, convenience and the safety of your own skin. Well, what's the point of sending me to dig into history and compare it with fictional Westeros, when I give more relevant examples from the same universe? We have a sole proprietor and they clearly showed how it was all done — adequately and realistically. And in the Madhouse of the Dragon, it's the opposite. What does the real story have to do with it? We are not watching historical documentaries.

Just the opposite — in a documentary, any stupidity could be attributed to an argument. Well, in life it was. Then yes, the bazaar is zero. And this is fiction and the stupidity in it is only the stupidity of the creators
zaiKS
zaiKS
09 Jul 15:15 # Show original
@Nonelementary: Tyrion also went to brothels
Nonelementary
Nonelementary
09 Jul 18:37 # Show original
@zaiKS: So what? Tyrion and the dogs were hugging each other in the kennel, sleeping on the bare ground. Will Tyrion be used to measure monarchs? Tyria is not a prince or a king, he earned the nickname Imp for a reason, but nevertheless in KG he had a mistress, Shaya, whom he kept in a castle at his side.
Here it is necessary not to justify the behavior of one by another, but to raise the question in another way — why can Tyria afford to retire with Ros in Winterfell in a separate room, and Prince Aymond in his own capital sits behind a curtain in a common room so that he is interrupted and naked?
zaiKS
zaiKS
10 Jul 08:43 # Show original
@Nonelementary: well, his brother got in (who, like, everything is allowed), and as for the fact that Edmond decided to go to a brothel, maybe at the moment he is dragging someone into the castle who is not ice) well, or just a fetish he has. Tyr was the queen's brother, too, like a shadow on relatives. No one cares about anything, they just have fun as they want)))
Nonelementary
Nonelementary
10 Jul 09:21 # Show original
@zaiKS: I'm not talking about permissiveness, but about preferences. Joffrey had fun as he wanted when he was growing up shot with a crossbow and got nothing for it. And Aymond is having fun like the rabble, although he can afford the best. That's all
zaiKS
zaiKS
10 Jul 15:09 # Show original
@Nonelementary: the taste and color. Everyone behaves as he wants
Nonelementary
Nonelementary
10 Jul 16:46 # Show original
@zaiKS: Rather, screenwriters write what they have a poor mind for.
zaiKS
zaiKS
12 Jul 08:03 #
@Nonelementary: тоже возможно
Сериальщик732
Сериальщик732
03 Jul 15:08 # Show original
Is the queen trying out for the captured capital in the hope of luck and maybe? And the honesty, decency of the usurper's mother? And that no one would recognize her?

An insanely stupid idea
Rina-Екатерина
Rina-Екатерина
03 Jul 16:49 # Show original
As for Daenerys' dragon eggs, I don't think it's them, since there's no green. But it would be interesting if it were those eggs. It would unite the universes once again.
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
03 Jul 17:50 # Show original
@Rina-Ekaterina: They kind of confirmed that these are the same eggs
Rina-Екатерина
Rina-Екатерина
03 Jul 17:53 # Show original
@fairyfoxxy: Then it's strange, where is the green?
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
03 Jul 17:58 #
@Rina-Екатерина: вот вам кусочек из статьи.
Along with her children and two fledgling dragons, Tyraxes and Stormcloud, Rhaena is to take another valuable cargo: Four dragon eggs—all of which may very well turn to stone once taken from Dragonstone. Three of these eggs look awfully familiar: One is gold, one green and the other a dark reddish-black. The fourth is a light blue.
The theory—it was never confirmed by George R.R. Martin, only heavily implied—was that these eggs made their way eventually to the wealthy Illyrio in Pentos and from him to Daenerys.

However, it appears the show is making a major (if completely understandable) change from the book. "Those are Daenerys' eggs," the episode’s director Geeta Vasant Patel told Mashable. "All of us who work on this show are big Game of Thrones fans, so it was very exciting to shoot that scene."
Rina-Екатерина
Rina-Екатерина
03 Jul 18:14 # Show original
@fairyfoxxy: It's cool, it's a pity Martin didn't confirm it in the books.
10anya_d
10anya_d
03 Jul 19:21 # Show original
@fairyfoxxy: yes, but there is another theory that it was the Fiery Dream that was the real mother of dragons hatched in the fire from which the Burning One in the series "Game of Thrones" came out. How could this happen, after almost 200 years between these events? We're figuring it out.

3 dragon eggs for the wedding of Daenerys and Khal Drogo were presented to the young by Illyrio Mopatis (master of Pentos). And ~ a couple of centuries before that, in 53 AD, the sea traveler Elissa Farman stole just 3 eggs from Queen Reina Targaryen (clutches of a Fiery Dream), sold them to the Sea Lord in Braavos and with the gold she earned built herself a ship "Flying after the Sun
And these events take place before the House of Dragons, because Helaina was already the last rider of the Fiery Dream
10anya_d
10anya_d
03 Jul 19:23 # Show original
@fairyfoxxy: and from the eggs that were given to Reina, the dragon Morning was supposed to appear... but a bolt was hammered on him, apparently...
Hidji
Hidji
03 Jul 23:45 # Show original
@10anya_d: only the most attentive readers follow the timeline of events, and showrunners don't give a shit about it at all... well, you get it). They said it, so now it's like this.
10anya_d
10anya_d
04 Jul 00:11 # Show original
@Hidji: apparently yes, but it's a pity, of course... it is possible that the Morning will appear in some other interpretation though)
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
04 Jul 06:24 # Show original
@10anya_d: your version is more suitable for book events, the screenwriters have a different goal - to attract as many characters as possible.
Iamthewinter
Iamthewinter
03 Jul 18:00 #
💔
IL-2
IL-2
03 Jul 18:12 # Show original
I was impressed by the moment when, from some small boyish quarrels of brats, it abruptly turned into an epic panorama with a burning mill, smoking earth and mountains of corpses...
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
15 Jul 18:55 #
@IL-2: это как в 1-м сезоне оба дома сватались к Рейнире, и потом один убил другого в ссоре. Кстати, я тут вспомнил одну армянскую сказку, в том же духе. Прочтите, если будет время. ССылку щас отдельным коммментом оставлю, но если вдруг удалят - поищите в Викитеке (Wikisource) "Капля мёда"
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
15 Jul 18:55 #
https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/Капля_мёда_(Туманян;_Ходасевич)
fb942393
fb942393
03 Jul 21:00 # Show original
What a dreariness
Sqev
Sqev
04 Jul 00:11 # Show original
Best of all, she gave Kunilyan her trukhans instead of a handkerchief.
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
15 Jul 18:55 #
@Sqev: почему -ян, а не "Кунилёв"?
SpringSpark
SpringSpark
04 Jul 10:56 # Show original
From a logical point of view, changing into a sept, getting out of the palace and going to catch the queen in the city center with one guy is a complete trash. But from the point of view of the plot, this is an important moment in the relationship between the two queens, which would be difficult to beat in another way. And this puts an end to the line that has been going on for the last three episodes – the war is brewing, can it be stopped, will we try to try everything. We tried, it didn't work out, inhale and exhale and go kill thousands.
And the scene itself is carbon monoxide, their facial expressions. What wonderful actresses.
Эдуард95
Эдуард95
04 Jul 14:23 # Show original
Where do people look?
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
15 Jul 18:56 #
@Эдуард95: сайтов полно, достаточно воспользоваться Гуглом или Яндексом
Cry_to_Heaven
Cry_to_Heaven
04 Jul 14:33 # Show original
What a Benjicot would have been!
vk455480
vk455480
04 Jul 14:54 #
Как же было бы эпично, если б Рейнис стала десницей при королеве. Очень тяжко будет потом без её наставлений. Помимо пары человек в совете Рейниры вообще никто не думает о последствиях войны, им неважно сколько потерь понесут стороны и что из их числа обязательно будет королевская кровь

Сцена разговора Алисенты и Рейниры это чисто вайбы первого сезона, здесь они поначалу показались не как две королевы, а как два подростка. Втайне сидеть в септе и тупо НАДЕЯТЬСЯ, что их не заметят. Даже вспоминая Визериса я видела не королеву Рейниру, а Олкок из первых серий
А Алисента разочаровала, что значит "уже поздно"? Для чего поздно? Месть уже произошла, сын за сына я имею ввиду, за глаз заплатили жизнью, потом убили наследника, понятно же, что дальше война будет идти по такому же принципу. Почему бы именно сейчас не попытаться заключить хоть какой-то мир? Потому что Коль так решил? Или потому что сыновья для размена ещё остались? Такое ощущение, что просто не нашли нормального ответа на этот вопрос, поэтому она тупо ушла и серия закончилась. Тот самый случай, когда есть шанс не начинать войну, но т.к. написана книга show must go on
Cheryl
Cheryl
04 Jul 16:09 #
@vk455480: "А Алисента разочаровала, что значит "уже поздно""
_____
Алисента ничего не решает. Это отлично видно на протяжении всего эпизода. К ней никто не прислушается даже если она попытается заключить мир. Она мать короля, а не королева, Эйгон просто от неё отмахнется или вообще вышлет как и деда.
vk455480
vk455480
04 Jul 16:20 # Show original
@Cheryl: True, but that was exactly the way to answer that she couldn't influence anything. And she waved off the peace offer, as if it wasn't her children who were going to fight. Then they present her to us as regretting what is happening, and now as the one who does not mind killing the whole family of Rainira.
idrita7siniy
idrita7siniy
04 Jul 19:33 # Show original
@vk455480: She actually told Rainira about the kids, "and Eamond, well, you know what he is" or something like that. She hinted at it to her.
vk455480
vk455480
04 Jul 19:40 # Show original
@idrita7siniy: Well, it makes sense, Eamond, you know what he is, so let's break up and come what may.
That's exactly how the series ended
idrita7siniy
idrita7siniy
07 Jul 14:30 # Show original
@vk455480: 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️
Take a closer look at the moment, she started with the fact that her father had left, since she also said about the children. It led to the fact that she did not have the power and allies to influence anything.
Scandias
Scandias
04 Jul 23:05 # Show original
It's so easy for commentators, half of whom know the plot, to talk from the couch about what's stupid and what's not 😂
Celesgosa
Celesgosa
05 Jul 15:58 # Show original
@Scandias: Yes, it's easy. All you need to do is have a brain and logical thinking.
Scandias
Scandias
04 Jul 23:05 # Show original
The series looks more and more like a work of art 🙏 beautiful shots, subtle acting, tension building. I really like it.
Scandias
Scandias
04 Jul 23:06 #
Рейнира, прячущаяся среди монахинь под звон колокола, передает привет Альтаиру 😂
white_boom
white_boom
05 Jul 21:14 # Show original
The scene with the ghostly Rainier in Harenhall is top class!
christinapirs
christinapirs
06 Jul 00:07 # Show original
Nothing seems to have happened in the series, but it feels like a five
In fact, at the moments of this series it seems that Aegon could grow up with experience into a normal ruler (if he were not a drunkard and did not change his mind every 2 minutes, when everyone first whispers new information to him)
Neither Rainier nor Aegon have shown themselves as rulers yet, in fact, one is a wingman, the other is afraid to make a move so far (not without reason, of course), but I want a determined Rainier to see that the end of the series with a reference to their childhood together with Alicent and foreshadows

Геворг
Геворг
PRO
15 Jul 19:02 #
@christinapirs: не помню, про этот мир говорили или другой, но читал в одном произведении "Он постоянно менял решение и слушался того, кто давал совет последним". Ваши слова напомнили это предложение.
DanechkaK
DanechkaK
06 Jul 17:14 # Show original
The way Rainier and Rainis looked at each other at the council is power. Rainira and Alicent have met, Alicent understands perfectly well who is worthy of the throne, but still pride and greed cover everything.
RumL
RumL
06 Jul 22:02 # Show original
Alicent: I was unkind, but I was never a liar
ahahahh yelled gspd

I'm waiting for more Damon, I hope he will live at least until the final
zaiKS
zaiKS
09 Jul 15:06 # Show original
@RumL: Well, I still owe him a duel. 😉🙃
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
07 Jul 01:12 # Show original
Damn, and that's why they're dragging it out so much. It is clear that there will be a civil war, otherwise why are we all here? You already expect that they will begin to arrange the pieces on the board. Greasing allies, preparing for battle with enemies, looking for ways to attract them to your side. And instead, what a wonderful episode at the end with this heart-to-heart conversation. Well, I can't stop wondering what kind of courtyard these royal castles are, how poorly the security of royal persons is arranged
Sigizmund
Sigizmund
07 Jul 14:14 # Show original
What if Rainira had actually recruited Alicent in this way? She will not cancel anything critical anyway, war cannot be avoided, she will just walk around the palace and make square eyes at what is happening. Well, maybe he'll do a couple of sabotages.

It is unlikely (because by that slap in the face of Nicolas, it is clear that the lady has accepted herself as an imperious figure and is right), but suddenly I guessed right, then I will give a link to this comment with smart words =}
lobkolyubov
lobkolyubov
07 Jul 22:13 # Show original
It's weak so far, very, very far from the sole proprietor, everything is sluggishly tied up, but maybe it's for the best to play everything to the maximum by the climax.
raziel2011
raziel2011
08 Jul 01:24 # Show original
@lobkolyubov: I couldn't watch Game of Thrones for a very long time, because everything is sluggishly tied up. Moreover, she remained like that until the crumpled quick end. And here you are being entertained with blockbuster rainiers in the sept a second after she thought about it)0
Геворг
Геворг
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15 Jul 19:03 #
@raziel2011: так может и 1-й сезон был медленен, но вот быстрая скомканная концовка - неправда.
gabbachild
gabbachild
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07 Jul 23:41 # Show original
What a terrible CGI((
NyanQt3_14
NyanQt3_14
07 Jul 23:52 # Show original
I do not understand the comparison of Aegon with Joffrey, a normal character, does not infuriate in any way, no matter how the screenwriters try to denigrate him. Against the background of Joffrey - so in general, a wonderful man
The fanservice started in episode 13 of the series, strongly, but Alcock is still crashing
The scene where the dragon noticed Kohl's squad (man, what's with the hairstyle) is a good one, but otherwise a normal series, not great, but not bad either
Judging by the title of the next episode, we are waiting for an epic!
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
10 Jul 15:43 # Show original
@NyanQt3_14: "I don't understand the comparison of Aegon with Joffrey"

Their "vibe" is confusing. Aegon (played by the second actor) looks like a bigger villain than he actually is. Only in the fourth series there are cute moments.
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
15 Jul 19:04 #
@NyanQt3_14: он не садист как Джоффри, точнее не настолько, но склонности есть. С детства дразнил брата, издевался над ним, теперь параноик.
8margoshka8
8margoshka8
08 Jul 01:23 # Show original
Some kind of cut in time turned out: Rainier's spies are discovered in the neighborhood of the enemy side, an immediate decision is required from her, which she delays everything, a bloody war knocks on the door, and she suddenly finds time (and it hardly takes a couple of hours) to sail by ship to King's landing to chat with An old girlfriend…
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
15 Jul 19:05 #
@8margoshka8: если совет дали утром или днём, но максимум на сл. день могла поплыть туда и обратно. Драконий камень и столица довольно рядом географически.
Snegnarek
Snegnarek
08 Jul 19:27 # Show original
Niches, Brackens and Blackwoods ●_______●
KseniaStepanenko
KseniaStepanenko
08 Jul 22:17 # Show original
Is there any data being collected that the library has cut? And then suddenly something serious was cut out somewhere
fairyfoxxy
fairyfoxxy
09 Jul 05:53 # Show original
@KseniaStepanenko: just look at another site where nothing is cut out, why such troubles?
chickchirik
chickchirik
09 Jul 13:49 # Show original
@KseniaStepanenko: Unfortunately, I can't tell you what exactly was cut out, because I stopped looking at the media Library because of censorship.

But as watching other TV shows shows, they cut everything that is somehow related to LGBT people and also replace words in dubbing. 😒 Which can greatly affect the perception of the plot, because you sit and don't understand what the hell is going on. And there it turns out that half the series was cut out.

Therefore, I will join the comment above, it is better to look in other places.
exclusiv3
exclusiv3
10 Jul 19:22 # Show original
Ayaya, it's already trembling 😁
The courts of game of Thrones, they sooo lego killed the main characters, I'm now half expecting that to kill her
cherrybomb196
cherrybomb196
13 Jul 16:21 # Show original
Wait, it just hit me. Is a song of ice and fire about Jon Snow?
limbo
limbo
14 Jul 07:17 #
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Геворг
Геворг
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15 Jul 16:17 #
То есть Риверран вынес решение в пользу Бракенов, но Блеквуды не хотят его признавать?
А разве Эймонд не детоубийца и kinslayer? С малышом Люком? Или он уже не считался ребёнком? Согласно Wiki of Westeros, ему было 14
А это нормально, что знамя в столице зелёного цвета, цвета Хайтауэров? А не чёрное как обычно у Таргов
Мне кажется или Коль поменял причёску? Ну и брат Алисенты – тип с «юмором»: отлично подколол Коля 😅
Мне кажется или Алисента стала как бы холоднее относиться к Колю, хотя прошёл лишь день, максимум два, после прошлой серии? И не слишком ли нагло попросить такого дара у королевы перед всеми, особенно когда вы так «близки»?
Ох уж этот лже-скромный взгляд Лариса при получении должности. Хитрый лис 😂
Опасная и влиятельная эта должность – мастер шептунов. Может собирать имеющие слухи, но может пускать и свои собственные, или просто придумать о присутствии оных, как Ларис… Можно сказать это похоже на контроль над медией – что сказать, о чём умолчать… С таким слабовольным как Эйгон и хитрым как Ларис легко такому лицу самому стать де-факто правителем…
Только сейчас понял, какая не только сила и умение, но и зрение нужно для всадников драконов – заметить этот блеск с высоты… Ну и Коль молодец – заметил дракона. И вроде держится сильнее брата королевы… Правда почему дракону не дали команду поджечь лес… Не было уверенности, что это были враги, а не свои?
А! Был приказ не атаковать, вот и не стала? Тогда понятно. Ну и военный совет Рейниры интересен тем, что и она со своей осторожностью, и они со своими контраргументами по-своему правы.
Милли! Приятно, что она врала о том, что её больше в сериале не будет 😁
В еде была наркота, или Деймона совесть мучает?
Ой да ладно – можно подумать заговор уже не строился ещё до его смерти. И если бы он не сказал про Эйгона – ты бы всё равно не стала бы поддерживать заговорщиков… Ведь не была ли ты удручена лишь тем, что была безвестна о плане, а не его существованием? Не говоря о том, что у Рейниры тоже был сын по имени Эйгон и ты всё время прерывала короля, не давала ему закончить… Как и тогда, Алисента верит в то, что хочет, а не во что говорят…
P. S. Интересно, что Ульф, бастард-Таргариен, является сторонником Рейниры. Подробности из книги не помню, поэтому интересно – правду ли говорил, или собирал инфу для Лариса?
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
15 Jul 19:09 #
И ещё пару заметок - Колю не десницей быть, а мастером войны, или главным военным начальником. В этом смысле он вроде бы хорош. Даже дракона быстро подметил.
То, как Бракены и Блеквуды вцепились в огромную битву, напомнило армянскую сказку "Капля мёда" от Ованнеса Туманяна, где от одной маленькой капли мёда началось немыслимое...
Геворг
Геворг
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15 Jul 19:10 #
https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/Капля_мёда_(Туманян;_Ходасевич)
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
15 Jul 20:19 #
* Официантка в баре - та прислуга, которую Эйгон насиловал в 1-м сезоне
* Когда Эймонд во время совета играет с монетой - это была идея актёра. Кстати, монета - та самая, которую он использовал во время обсуждения стратегии в 2*01 и которую подобрал с пола в 2*02
* В 1*01 Алисента всматривалась в Коля, но тот пожелал получить благосклонность Рейниры. В этой серии он попросил Алисенту
* Рейниру одевают под септу. У Джехейриса, который был дедом Визериса и прадедом Рейниры, была дочь Сейра Таргариен, которую за её сексуальные похождения в качестве отправили служить у Молчаливых сестёр (давшие обет молчания септы, которые занимаются уходом за телами почивших), но она оттуда сбежала в Эссос и добровольно стала проституткой, даваясь в монашеской одежде, потом открыла свой собственный дом похоти.
* На лошади Коула можно заметить семиконечную звезду, символ Семи, главной веры Вестероса
* Гвейн Хайтауэр выступает за зелёных. Есть рассказ (несколько лет назад и фильм тоже) "Сэр Гавейн и Зелёный Рыцарь"
Геворг
Геворг
PRO
15 Jul 18:30 #
Когда Рейнира приходит в септу к Алисенте, внутри септы перед их встречей, говорят можно услышать православную молитву то ли на русском, то ли на церковном славянском...

https://www.reddit.com/r/OrthodoxChristianity/comments/1dsjz79/house_of_the_dragon_features_orthodox_prayer_scene/
celery_modernist
celery_modernist
16 Jul 02:10 # Show original
Who has read the books, can you tell how many main characters should be in the story now? I'm afraid to read the wiki and spoil everything for myself. Rainier, Alicent, Kolya must be 40 years old, but they are not trying to age them in any way, even if they put on a few wrinkles, but it's hard to watch how they all look the same age as the older generation
Hidji
Hidji
16 Jul 02:51 # Show original
@celery_modernist: Rainier by all accounts in the second season as at the end of the first 33 years. Alicent and Kohl are a few years older, they are about 38 years old. The greens have Aegon 18-19, Helaine is 17, Eamond is 16. The younger generation of the black is also about 15-16. Damon's about fifty.
Nog
Nog
16 Jul 11:59 # Show original
@Hidji: as for Aegon and his siblings, you've already bent it, his eldest son was already 6, they didn't give birth to him at 11-12 years old. Aegon is 10 years younger than Rhaenyra.
ZemlyaT
ZemlyaT
16 Jul 14:01 # Show original
Jace can't be the same age as Eamond. When they were kids, Eamond was noticeably older.
Hidji
Hidji
16 Jul 14:55 # Show original
@ZemlyaT: Jace is only a few months younger than Eamond, as is Bail. And Reine is 15.
Hidji
Hidji
16 Jul 14:56 # Show original
@Nog: They had a wedding when they were 13. And do you remember the intervals that were in the timeline of season 1? First 2 years, then 10 years and then 6, right?
10anya_d
10anya_d
16 Jul 15:11 # Show original
@Hidji: Jaheris is 4 years younger than Eamond...Aymond was born in 110 AD, and Jace in 114...
Hidji
Hidji
16 Jul 16:00 # Show original
@10anya_d: yes, whatever you say, but it doesn't fit into the time gaps of the first season, or you're talking about Aegon.
10anya_d
10anya_d
16 Jul 16:07 # Show original
@Hidji: No, I'm talking about Eamond... and according to the time frame according to the book... and if you try to figure out the gaps in the series, then you will get complete nonsense... but visually, the characters also look of different ages... Eamond actually looks like the oldest..
Hidji
Hidji
16 Jul 16:10 # Show original
@10anya_d: this is already a caste problem. But in fact, after his birth, there were time jumps at 10 and 6 years old, he is exactly 16. And Rainira was already pregnant at that time, i.e. it turns out that the difference between them is less than 9 months. Or she was pregnant for 4 years😁
10anya_d
10anya_d
16 Jul 16:44 # Show original
@Hidji: when there was a time jump of 10 years, Rainira was pregnant with Joffrey, the 3rd son... We were not shown her pregnancy with her first children, just as Alicent's pregnancy with Eamond and his birth were not shown... therefore, it is difficult to judge who was how old..
Hidji
Hidji
16 Jul 18:51 # Show original
@10anya_d: Alicent gave birth before the jump at the age of 10, the baby was just a baby and it was Eamond. Rainira was pregnant with the younger Joffrey before the jump at 6 years old, if before 10, then he would have been 16, and Jace 26))). Despite the fact that Rainier is 33, since at the very beginning of the first season Viserys says that her daughter is 15 years old. In fact, she is the only one whose age can be absolutely accurately determined both by him and by dancing.
ZemlyaT
ZemlyaT
16 Jul 19:18 # Show original
Maybe they changed something, because the age difference is obvious for them. In childhood, it is even less noticeable than it is now. Put Jace and Eamond next to each other... a teenager and an uncle.
10anya_d
10anya_d
16 Jul 19:42 # Show original
@Hidji: Well, according to this logic, if the kid who was shown in 4-5 episodes is Eamond, then Rainira has not even married Leinor yet... then there was a wedding and after that a leap of 10 years... Eamond had just grown up by this time... the creators have already confused us by making Rainier more mature at the time of Aegon's birth... they have 10 years difference, but according to the series it turns out that 15...
Hidji
Hidji
16 Jul 19:48 # Show original
@10anya_d: This is not for me anymore, I brought the figures purely based on the analysis of the first season and the initial data from there. There are generally many discrepancies with the chronicle, it is easier not to refer to it, except for basic things.
10anya_d
10anya_d
16 Jul 19:53 # Show original
@Hidji: I'm trying to convey to you the idea that even if we judge purely by analyzing the time intervals in the series, there cannot be a difference of several months between Eamond and Jace, since you claim that Eamond the kid existed before the time jump of 10 years...And Jace wasn't even in the plans then. 🤷♀️
Hidji
Hidji
16 Jul 21:48 # Show original
@10anya_d: there is an additional argument from those who conducted the analysis. Jace and Joffrey have a 10-year age difference. Don't ask where it was said, I personally don't remember). And we already said that Rainira was pregnant with Joffrey before the last jump at 6 years old. Something like that.
10anya_d
10anya_d
16 Jul 22:07 # Show original
@Hidji: There is a 10-year difference between Jace and Joffrey, Jace was born the year Rainyra married Leinor, Rainyra gave birth to Joffrey right after the jump at 10 years old... How does this explain the difference between Eamond and Jace?... Was Rainira pregnant already at her wedding? Where it was mentioned...
Hidji
Hidji
16 Jul 22:13 # Show original
@10anya_d: despite the fact that he is 6 years old.
10anya_d
10anya_d
16 Jul 22:24 # Show original
@Hidji: I realized this is a useless discussion... let's stay with our opinions, everyone...because we are talking about some different things🤷♀️
Hidji
Hidji
17 Jul 00:48 # Show original
@10anya_d: apparently, yes, about different ones. The youngest son is 6, so the eldest should be 16. It seems to be logical. And Jace and Baila are kind of the same age, and Rayna is a year younger. At the same time, everyone everywhere says that Aegon is also 16, these are not my words. So the difference between them is less than a year, it seems like it is also logical. And the rest of Alicent's children are almost the weather, she gave birth to one after another, just managed to get away from childbirth. So I don't see any discrepancies. But you're right, the argument is really pointless, there weren't any special questions about the younger generation. In general, initially the topic was about the age difference between the older and younger generations, and there Rainira is the youngest with her 33 years old, although she looks older than the rest of the gang 😅
10anya_d
10anya_d
17 Jul 03:04 # Show original
@Hidji: only Aegon was 20 years old at the time of Viserys' death and coronation. this is an undeniable fact, episode 9, he utters the phrase that for 20 years his father has not named him heir, which means that Rainier is not 33, but 35... Helaine is 18, and Eamond is 17... Jace is no more than 15... that's all...
Hidji
Hidji
17 Jul 03:40 # Show original
@10anya_d: 15+2+10+6 That's 33. But if you insist that it's 35, then I won't argue, I'm tired of it.
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
17 Jul 12:01 # Show original
@Hidji: Yes, the creators themselves got confused, that's all. )) Already in the first season, I found inconsistencies with different correct counting methods (even if you dance only from the numbers voiced in the series). So there's really nothing to argue about.
10anya_d
10anya_d
17 Jul 12:02 # Show original
@Hidji: What's the difference between Aegon and Rhaenyra? You will define your statements... and there was some time between Aegon's second name day and Rhaenyra and Leinor's wedding, which you don't take into account... Eamond must have been born there somehow, as you claimed... or did Alicent give birth to two children in a month?.. you only count the intervals that the creators explicitly indicated - 15-2-10-6, but time passed between them, as it were...
PianoOnTheLake
PianoOnTheLake
17 Jul 12:03 # Show original
@10anya_d: Yes, the creators themselves got confused, that's all. )) Already in the first season, I found inconsistencies with different correct counting methods (even if you dance only from the numbers voiced in the series). So there's really nothing to argue about.
10anya_d
10anya_d
17 Jul 12:06 # Show original
@PianoOnTheLake: everything went wrong because Rainier was made older than the bookstore... That's how they should have a 10-year difference with Aegon, but it turned out to be 15..
10anya_d
10anya_d
16 Jul 15:11 # Show original
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vk531418
vk531418
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20 Jul 10:50 # Show original
Cool series finale. In fact, the whole mess is due to a misunderstanding of the king's last words. The wife, as I understand it, is not pretending. She really thought it was about her son. This fact is just tinny.... such a small thing and such problems because of it...
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