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s01e07 — Open Waters
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| Release Date: | 29.11.2019 15:00 |
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Discussion: Season 1, Episode 7 Join the Discussion
157Mia's strong monologue about a vengeful feminist whore.
A strong monologue by a tired Alex.
Utter nonsense from personnel officers: "Claire, can I help you get rid of this relationship?" They got the most out of the movement: no one knows how to react anymore. The scriptwriters promised to cover Metoo from all sides and are doing a great job of it.
P.S. The role of Hannah is finally becoming clear.
I was pleased that Alex took the pizza back after the scandal.
Cory enchants me more and more with each episode. It's illegal to be so charismatic!)
The ending is, was there at least one woman Mitch didn't sleep with?))
The fire series, yes, looks great in one go.
I expected the hungry students sitting in the hallway, howling and rumbling, to rush to eat greedily right out of the bucket
The moment with Mia is difficult- when she finally spoke, I exhaled with her too!))) It's hard to work when you're being discussed, misunderstood, and most likely judged behind your back!
The team is like this)
Chip, a cool, interesting character, I'm happy to watch his actions!!!
I didn't like the inflated egoism of Alex's daughter. Well, unfortunately, it happens, and now what? It's a very subtle topic, and everyone has their own "truth" here
But I liked Alex's speech at the end, with pizza!
Looking forward to the new interview with Mitch! There will be a "bomb"!
And of course... Cory, Cory wraps your mother in her charm so that she's scared for her emotions)!
She and Bradley look great...
So to her, this whining little girl!
If you look at the series as not just a drama about TV, but generally about the concept of BOUNDARIES (personal, professional, etc.), many things become clearer.
She also really didn't act like a mother to her daughter. It's not even that her daughter is right or wrong, the fact is that Alex is an adult woman and her child is in front of her. At first, she put herself in the position of a child, offering her daughter the position of a mother. And when she saw where everything was going, and pointed out to the mother the delusional nature of her behavior, she fumed, sent the child to the kitchen and ran away, taking the pizza and throwing it away. In general, it's like she's a complicated teenager, not her daughter.
Despite the fact that the idea is good (although I don't share her hysteria about the divorce specifically, my parents divorced when I was 10 and I already thought that it was their personal business, and they wouldn't stop being my parents after the divorce), but that's all about Alex's narcissism and that It's hard to argue that the child is traumatized because of this.
Well, damn it. People. Please, never talk to children the way Alex did. Even if these children are already 30 years old.
I was the one who asked for a divorce.
After that, his daughter tells him that even if it is, the mother is still to blame.
Here we are not talking about "who is right and who is to blame" - but about the fact that the daughter is angry at the mother, because she believes that she is to blame, and the mother does not give her enough time/emotional support for her to "digest" it all(appears without warning, tries to "bribe" with pizza, tries to "make peace" (lets not do this right now), etc.)
The problem here is not that the DAUGHTER denies Alex the right to be happy, but that the daughter has not yet "digested" this information and is angry at the mother, and that he denies her this right (gets angry).
I do not know your situation, but the fact that you use such criteria (I should be grateful that you did not grow up in the trash) and terms in 2k19, this is clearly something personal for you, so I think it would be better to just watch and try to understand the point of view of your daughter / husband on how the conflict develops. I think that my daughter will come to Alex herself WHEN SHE is ready FOR IT, most likely after graduation, where Alex will tell about her divorce and a lot of shit will pour on her.
Despite the strained family relationships, we constantly see in the series how Alex takes them out in public to maintain his image, talks about his daughter on TV (mentioned many times) and in every possible way receives social dividends from her presence. But at the same time, he gives very little in return. And especially the father gets hurt, who has to cover his wife's back, where he did not sign up for it, and remain in the position of a personal assistant without gratitude in return. And, as I understand it, the daughter was offended by the father's position in a very adult way.
What was said to her face in the crudest form after that looks more like hysteria than an adult. Alex didn't show any maternal qualities for the entire series, in principle, in order to require her daughter to run around with her and comfort her.
Still on the surface.
Bradley and Corey are the fucking 1000 and 1 reason I like this show!Their dialogues and the chemistry between them are simple. 🔥🔥🔥
It's interesting to watch the relationship between Yanko and Claire, how they're afraid of losing their jobs because of an affair, shying away at every turn - it really sucks.People will soon be unable to look at each other for fear of being accused of harassment:(
These moments are surprisingly well revealed and from an interesting angle. And not how they sometimes make some super people out of characters - that he/she is a super professional at work and a super partner/spouse at home and an ideal parent, etc.
Alex is finally starting to open up
* leaves, slamming the door and taking the pizza with him* :D
Ognishe, of course, the stage 🔥🔥🔥 learning how to raise progressive teenagers correctly))
- Fuck you, daughter!
here we are watching the news, Bradley Cooper has left Shake for Gaga. And we're just discussing this news
, and it turns out what's going on on the other side!
Alex's conversation with her lawyer (or HR officer?) and the conversation between Claire and Janko at the personnel officer is so absurd, and even scary, how real it is.
at such moments, I think: thank God that I can get laid with anyone I want and get married/divorced whenever I want, and at most the neighbors on the bench will talk about it, and even then, they will forget about it in a week.
Maybe it's just that the actress playing Lizzie is so infuriating that it's just impossible to empathize with her in any way, I want to join Alex and yell how she fucked everyone up, especially with her acting.
And it's right that she sent her daughter, she's not 10 years old to sulk like that, she should understand that they are people and people are at odds!
It's been a long time since this happened - most (of course, not everyone) notices the brilliant acting, they try to form a personal opinion about the issues raised, there is a discussion about who understood how and what was the point.
The discussions shown by the scriptwriters / actors / directors are reasoned, there are no personal insults and ridicule (well, maybe a few times less than usual :))).
It's super cool!
Whether we should thank Apple for such a gift in the form of a work of art that we can reflect on or not is up to you to decide.
Personally, I am very happy to visit the Internet, as if I had entered through the looking glass :)))
It shows very clearly how the whole American absurdity, no matter what topic it touches on, is a cage for themselves.
and how disgusting it was to see this ungrateful attitude of my daughter towards Alex. Either because the divorce happened at her young age, or because over the years she hadn't been taught to be grateful to her parents for everything she had (most likely, the second one), but I was even glad when Alex told her the whole truth, albeit in such a slightly too rude manner.. You can also come up with an excuse for your daughter to SOME extent - she's the only one in the family, at that age, she thinks that everything in the world revolves around her, she doesn't know what's going on in her personal life. My parents are also getting divorced. but still, children need to be taught that everyone around them is alive and also feels and experiences something. and sometimes you have to think about it. Maybe after this explosive scene, something will wake up in her.
I liked how Alex chastised her daughter. Children often think that their parents owe them something, not the other way around :)
Hannah's plot has started to play with new colors. All these hints of drug addiction were depressing. Finally, they begin to close the arc about the secret affair of the weather presenter with his assistant.
Corey has good chemistry with everyone, is a great character, and is well-played. But do we need another office romance in this story? I don't know, then it's better with a Chip. After all, Corey is using Bradley to his advantage and will leave. By the way, why don't we know anything about Chip's personal life?
Cool song at the end)
In the first episodes, I didn't understand why he was so a little introverted, but with each episode I like him more and more) Who knows how many more aces he has up his sleeve) Chip is a very interesting character)
Mother and daughter are BOTH right and wrong, each in their own way. Alex definitely gave up on her family for the sake of the show, devoted little time to her daughter and delayed the divorce just so as not to spoil her image. But she's a living person who makes mistakes, and Lizzie is wrong to think that Mom has to be perfect. But how well the daughter noticed the manipulation of her mother, who tried to seek her sympathy when her daughter needed it herself.
Empathy is necessary at any age. 50-year-old Alex also needed it in the person of Bradley. It's stupid to think that a 17-year-old girl has no right to be angry and upset.
It's such a gorgeous scene where everyone has their own pain, their own truth. And they both have the right to be offended!!!
Corey is so incredibly charismatic, and I still don't know whether to believe him or not.) I like their relationship with Bradley. And how Cory made a remark to Fred that he wasn't smiling)))
I don't even know how to treat Alex. She's really selfish and yelling at her daughter like that is already the edge.
Hello, girl, are you stupid?
He's also making a face, I wish I could support my parents. Well, it's clear that she's in denial and anger, but she's not 13 years old.
I really understand Alex, who sent her to fuck.
P.S. The final track of Ween is If you could save yourself (You'd save us all)
> I have never seen a child of any age react normally to a divorce.
My parents divorced when I was the same age as the heroine, and I reacted normally.
Shazam, the tracks from the finale of each episode, such cool and appropriate songs, immediately catch on.
Mia is a fire.
For some reason, in this episode, I noticed several times that Alex often straightens his hair, scratches his ear or does something there, it seems that the hosts can't really gesticulate and, of course, scratch themselves)
And of course, this phrase was immediately postponed by Corey: you need to enjoy life, take everything it offers, otherwise you will end up finding that you spent it constantly frowning. I just looked at my gloomy face in a different way)) we should probably do something about it)
No, I understand that the actress playing the role of Alex's daughter is infuriating, and her speech was prescribed in such a way that it is difficult to sympathize and understand the whole essence of her claim against Alex.… But Camon. Should she thank her parents for what she was, what to eat, and where to live? Is it okay that parents HAVE to provide for their children? It is their highest responsibility to provide children with physical, mental and other types of comfort. Because two adults at some point make a conscious decision to give birth to a child, this is their need, their desire, but the child DOES NOT OWE his parents anything, no respect, no support, no gratitude. Because he didn't make that decision, and if the damn parents (in this case, Alex) didn't give the child a sufficient level of care, love, and whatever else she needed according to the script, then she has every right to treat the mother the way she deserves it. But on the contrary, it doesn't work, in any way. It's a pity that many people don't understand this.
The conversation between Cory and Chip at the beginning of the episode is "THIS IS XIAN TZU! THE ART OF WAR" - reviewed 15 times, the best))
Corey and Bradley are still the best tandem chemist both as colleagues and as anyone else)
+ there was also a cheerful moment in the series when Chip just freaked out and fired the freak - it's clear that this may be overkill, but really what the hell - if the guys at work sleep with everyone in a row, it supposedly does not she relates to work, but as soon as a girl slept with someone at work, she immediately started running: she doesn't know how to work, and everything immediately boils down to sex, well, what nonsense
Anyway, I started liking Chip's character, they're developing him well, even though he was crazy at first, and when he freaks out, it's generally a favorite)
And I'm on Alex's side. She was initially worried about her daughter and worried that she might lose her. It's clear that she was worried about her career. But how could it be otherwise?
And when her daughter started blaming her for all the troubles and taking her father's side, it made me very angry. But Alex tried so calmly to explain everything to her daughter. And I'm glad she freaked out in the end, because it was already impossible to tolerate.
Here, Alex, her husband, and her daughter can be understood, everyone has the right to react to the current situation. I think it's natural that they had a fight, the daughter is offended that she didn't have enough maternal attention, Alex is offended that the daughter is ungrateful and takes everything for granted. The question is, what will they do next?
All the truth-tellers in this series, except the most important truth-teller (who has secrets)😅
After Alex's monologue, my daughter wanted to applaud! My daughter seems to be an adult, but her brain doesn't reach such serious things, it's strange.
There was also a speech into the microphone for the whole office .
In short, sincerely