It was expected that she would find adventures sooner or later. How do these cops even send their colleague alone at night (without backup)? Insanity is getting stronger. No wonder they couldn't catch him for so long.
Well, that was what needed to be proved, she did not listen to the man who wished her well, hid her night trips, and got what she was looking for, not only did she harm herself, she also did not think about the child. PS/ Well, we are waiting for the next minuses from the femdom movement on this comment
Did you see the moment when her boss gave her the choice to either quit or go to work? There is a big claim to the management. how can you send a woman, even if she is a policeman, without support, at least there should have been a partner. Her only fault is that she hid the pregnancy, well, careerism also played a significant role.
@DashaBonChuk: firstly, the boss did not know that she was pregnant, since she stuck her tongue in one place, secondly, the police do not have a gender, well, have you forgotten the trends? - EQUALITY!! You're fighting for it. Well, it's not right to call your own negligence careerism, not only for yourself, but also for the child.
Let's skip the pregnancy part. Don't the cops have a gender? Then why wasn't the man sent to the trains? They show us that even the vigilantes walk in pairs. In this situation, the boss was negligent, he sent an employee without support to catch a dangerous maniac. A woman is physically weaker than a man, this is physiology, you cannot argue with her, and here an adult experienced boss should understand. And I'm not saying that she's not to blame for what happened to her. But, the MANAGEMENT is responsible for their subordinates. And don't make me laugh, what kind of equality?! There are industries in which women cannot work because they are physically weaker / the employer prefers to see a man in this position. Wages also have a difference of 30-40% in favor of men. Women are not taken to senior positions because they have children / will go on maternity leave. Study the issue at your leisure.
Listen, what does pregnancy have to do with it. There was such a short period, up to 8 weeks, they don't even register. If she was coming back from work and she was beaten up, would it be her own fault too? And if we talk about the appearance of the victim, the term "type" is not used in vain regarding appearance. And until a woman/man tells you "YES", sexual acts are considered VIOLENCE for which there is an article. the excuse "she/he stood naked" will not exclude the guilt of the person who committed violent acts. Chikatilo raped the boys, and they were not vulgarly dressed. And yes, men are also being abused. And blaming victims of violence is low and inhumane! The psychological harm inflicted on the victim is much stronger than the physical one.
@sherbakova_vs: Chikatilo himself pulled this topic by the ears 30 years ago. At the trial, among other things, he declared himself a Ukrainian nationalist.
@slavash: he also called himself a woman, literally - "pregnant Ukrainian", switched to Ukrainian and demanded an interpreter, shouted "freedom to Ukraine". The second season was filmed before everything happened, so it just happened.
@Pavlyxa: what kind of maniac are we talking about? The opera was not attacked by a maniac, but by 2 bully guys, from whom she had protected the girl earlier.
Poor Nagiyev, of course, the role of Zadov spoiled his karma. It is difficult to deny that he is overplaying. I don't understand how you can live with such a psycho. His wife may not have seen him as a maniac, but it's hard not to notice that he's sick in the head over the years of living together. If the daughter understood that.
By Soviet standards, the man was an ideal family man: he did not drink, did not smoke, did not walk and worked, bought a car. The only problem was that I changed jobs too often. Others noticed oddities in his behavior, but Feodosia again ignored the alarm bell. Her husband obeyed her implicitly in everything, she asked him to undergo a course of treatment. The wife has long accepted that her husband is a pervert, she turned a blind eye to everything. The investigators showed irrefutable evidence, Feodosia did not even raise an eyebrow.
Am I the only one who is infuriated by these words, that supposedly clothes can provoke a man? Who would have thought of that? How does clothing affect you in general? Most girls can be raped even in modest clothes and still, some jerk will say that she is to blame because she behaved in a depraved way or she wanted it. Are you serious now? If you can't control yourself or don't understand when you're being rejected, then the problem lies only with you. Why if a man walks around without a T-shirt, and it's considered normal. And why do girls not rush at him at first glance, since he is half naked, so he wants sex. I really feel sorry for people who believe that the girl is to blame for everything and justify men in every possible way.
@Pavlyxa: How to dress should be decided by everyone, but no one should condemn a girl for a short skirt length or an open neckline on the same blouse. It was not about how to dress, but about the fact that if a man cannot keep his penis in the states, then clearly the reason is not in clothes. Why, if he saw a short skirt, then it must mean that she is not against sexual intercourse or putting labels on such girls. Regarding guys without a T-shirt, for example, it is not pleasant for me to look in a public place (and we are not talking about some beach, etc.) And yes, there are people who will justify such men and blame women, and I am not saying that men can justify them, but women can too.
@Pavlyxa: What kind of thing is she to use? Or it is written on her face that she is "the bearer of the oldest profession" And yes, she clearly did not want to have anything to do with them, but those guys apparently do not accept rejection and continued to climb.
@Pavlyxa: What kind of creature are you. Surely you watch a series about a serial killer and sympathize with him, but are you happy for the murdered women that they deserved? People like you need to be isolated or, at the very least, in places where you will also be treated as a thing.
@Pavlyxa: It's a pity that you think so narrowly. Where is the justification in my words? The fact that a girl doesn't want to, but guys start climbing up to her anyway to use her as a thing? As you claim. Well, then you're making excuses for these guys.
@Pavlyxa: men can only want something from themselves. And the girls will sort out their wardrobes without anyone else's noses. The "men" would like to learn how to dress properly themselves
@Pavlyxa: I'm not saying that you were justifying anyone there.) I'm writing to what we've already said: if someone wants to rape someone, they will, even if there is a victim in a miniskirt, even with makeup, even in a robe smeared with cow shit, it doesn't matter at all. Making the victim guilty ("provoked /a", "drove/a", "he/a is to blame /a")- the last case in any circumstances.
@__katerina__: You are completely right, and in the series they show just how wrong these words are using a direct example.
Here she was in decent clothes, lecturing another girl, but it didn't save her from violence in any way. And that girl in the seemingly provocative clothes turned out to be at home.
There was even an exhibition in NY where they showed the clothes that women were wearing at the time they were raped. There were often sweatpants, T-shirts, and hoodies. Some were even wearing dirty work clothes or stretched sportswear. So only those who are unable to take responsibility for their actions and are ready to look for excuses anywhere can blame the clothes (that is, the type of character below who agreed to call a living person a thing).
You never know who you're going to run into, what you're going to provoke a mentally ill person into. The attitude of society towards victims of violence is appalling…
@__katerina__: That's how the scriptwriters famously showed that non-men and clothes "provoke", and if you stand up for someone, it's still a "provocation", we can clearly see such an extreme in the Taliban, where women can't even be told so that animals don't lose control.
Oh my... What is Vetlitsky doing now? And he was so on edge, and even after the incident with Irina... 🙈 Well, I'm generally silent about the trial of Chikatilo... Did he really behave like that or not?! I don't know... But the game is complete... 🙄
How annoying this Bragin is, it's not surprising that the case has been investigated for such a long time Because people like Bragin are slowing down the investigation, trying to "flood" really normal employees. And truckers are generally funny, it's obvious that it's not them.
What infuriates me most about Bragin is not its perestroika, but "Moscow demands results," not about the dying women and children, not about their loved ones, not about the citizens who have been scared for many years, but all about the results. Idiot.
- A man should not lie (with) A.R.Chikatilo. also A.R.Chikatilo: He lies recklessly in court about the KGB, about the fabrication of the case, about madness, about his brother, about persecution on the basis of nationality. I feel sorry for Irina, I hope Vitvitsky doesn't start a dialogue with her with screams and screams.
Kovalev surprised me very pleasantly, saying that a prostitute is just as much a citizen of the USSR and she should be protected just like others. I certainly didn't expect such thoughts from him. And Irina surprised me very unpleasantly with her "you dress like that, you provoked them," although I didn't see any cleavage or mini skirts on the girl.
@id440426744, it seems to me that the statement about clothes took place due to the fashion of that time. Everyone dressed like they were going to a funeral or a bazaar (as seen in court). It's now normal to have a hairstyle and makeup, but in those days it wasn't very good. Even to look at the opera itself, she is dressed much more modestly.
People who write that if a woman behaves depraved, it's her own fault that she was raped, I hope I'll never meet you, otherwise you might behave the wrong way, you'll be raped immediately. Even if you go out naked, no one has the right to lay a finger on you, much less rape or mock you.an excuse for all maniacs, the woman herself gave the reason, and the children are small, do they also give a reason? Ugh at all. Even the series is disgusting to watch, knowing that these are real events, I even want to kill Nagiyev for this role, so many people, children are dying from freaks, and you have a reason, keep quiet better, or even a man can give a reason, what's to lose for a maniac
when I saw that the number of comments was three times more than under the previous series, I was glad that the plot and the search had moved on, saying that something like this had finally happened in the series, since everyone was discussing it. and here again, the non-men come out with their "provoked - not provoked." in the fucking year 2022. When will you stop embarrassing yourself? get the fuck this word out of your vocabulary if you don't want your intelligence level to immediately appear on your forehead. it is impossible to provoke an adequate person, because we are not animals, but you apparently continue to forget about this.
I'm sorry for Ira, but her words made me seethe. That is, the children also somehow provoked the maniac? Or does she think that a nun won't be raped in the middle of the night by two ghouls?
My God, it's so long and overdone. That hard-of-hearing Chikatilo, the psychopathic perestroika colonel, the mumbling captain. Children play very poorly. It was like everything was shot in one take.
It's such a pity that so many efforts of makeup artists and props are being used so ineffectively.
How he returned home after the murders without a single drop of blood on his clothes, with clean hands, not stained in earth and blood, I do not understand
The children played very sadly, and in general, the actors' performance is not at the highest level. This new boss from Moscow is also not the best player, too expressive in a bad way. But in general, I like the way everything is shown. There are no sudden time jumps like last season. They look harmonious here.
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And don't make me laugh, what kind of equality?! There are industries in which women cannot work because they are physically weaker / the employer prefers to see a man in this position. Wages also have a difference of 30-40% in favor of men. Women are not taken to senior positions because they have children / will go on maternity leave. Study the issue at your leisure.
If she was coming back from work and she was beaten up, would it be her own fault too?
And if we talk about the appearance of the victim, the term "type" is not used in vain regarding appearance.
And until a woman/man tells you "YES", sexual acts are considered VIOLENCE for which there is an article. the excuse "she/he stood naked" will not exclude the guilt of the person who committed violent acts.
Chikatilo raped the boys, and they were not vulgarly dressed. And yes, men are also being abused. And blaming victims of violence is low and inhumane! The psychological harm inflicted on the victim is much stronger than the physical one.
The second season was filmed before everything happened, so it just happened.
But nowadays it's kind of cut, yes
I don't understand how you can live with such a psycho. His wife may not have seen him as a maniac, but it's hard not to notice that he's sick in the head over the years of living together. If the daughter understood that.
And yes, there are people who will justify such men and blame women, and I am not saying that men can justify them, but women can too.
The "men" would like to learn how to dress properly themselves
I'm writing to what we've already said: if someone wants to rape someone, they will, even if there is a victim in a miniskirt, even with makeup, even in a robe smeared with cow shit, it doesn't matter at all. Making the victim guilty ("provoked /a", "drove/a", "he/a is to blame /a")- the last case in any circumstances.
Here she was in decent clothes, lecturing another girl, but it didn't save her from violence in any way. And that girl in the seemingly provocative clothes turned out to be at home.
There was even an exhibition in NY where they showed the clothes that women were wearing at the time they were raped. There were often sweatpants, T-shirts, and hoodies. Some were even wearing dirty work clothes or stretched sportswear. So only those who are unable to take responsibility for their actions and are ready to look for excuses anywhere can blame the clothes (that is, the type of character below who agreed to call a living person a thing).
The attitude of society towards victims of violence is appalling…
Well, I'm generally silent about the trial of Chikatilo... Did he really behave like that or not?! I don't know... But the game is complete... 🙄
Because people like Bragin are slowing down the investigation, trying to "flood" really normal employees.
And truckers are generally funny, it's obvious that it's not them.
also A.R.Chikatilo: He lies recklessly in court about the KGB, about the fabrication of the case, about madness, about his brother, about persecution on the basis of nationality.
I feel sorry for Irina, I hope Vitvitsky doesn't start a dialogue with her with screams and screams.
And Irina surprised me very unpleasantly with her "you dress like that, you provoked them," although I didn't see any cleavage or mini skirts on the girl.
It was like everything was shot in one take.
It's such a pity that so many efforts of makeup artists and props are being used so ineffectively.