It turns out, according to Tom, Logan listened to the message from Roman after all? I wonder if this will come up again? Ken's final smile seems to remind us that we have not only King Lear here, but also King Oedipus. I started leaning towards the fact that the series would end with children who ruined everything, and these final seconds again made me think about Ken, who became Logan. Or will he leave the ruins of their empire? In words, he is Logan Roy, but in fact...
@Noordzee: Well, it seemed strange to me that for some reason he decided to make a joke about catching the phone out of the toilet for some reason. As if Logan really dropped it there? On the other hand, I went to review the moment when Roman suddenly remembers about the message he wrote to his father - Roman says about "did he look into the phone?" not directly to Tom, but Tom was on speakerphone at that moment, he could hear. Whether he got into Logan's phone himself or not - but he could figure out that it was important for the Novel, and launch a duck for the press through Greg (dying, dropped the phone into the toilet, ahahah, the same), just as he leaked the news about Logan's death through Greg in the last series But this is too complicated a combination, so it seems to me that yes, Logan dropped this unfortunate phone after all. Whether he managed to listen to Roman's message or not is another question, but Roman will think one hundred percent that he did if he finds out (Greg is still a talker). Or maybe this information is just for us to add sadness to Logan's death
@Bice: Logan in the end was also not a mega-master of business, he was riding on reputation, assertiveness and influence. Kendall has a pretty good sense of where to go, but he lacked experience. After filling the cones, he gained experience. But of course it can fail everything, especially if they and the siblings continue to quarrel about and without.
@siberiandragon: Absolutely seriously, I think Roman is the most sensible, won, the guy even went to courses, he's just too chaotic. "I'm smart, but dumb." Oh, his abilities, but Jerry under the wing Ken lacks a backbone, no matter how hard he tries, even his pathetic performance forgiving his father into some kind of chewing snot eventually resulted. Let's see now if he will be able to grow it, smiling, or still ruin the company in the process The main thing is that the manic episode does not have time to be replaced by a depressive one, otherwise everything is exactly there...
@Bice: Roma has less practice than Ken, because he kicked a fool + self-sabotage of a much higher level than Ken. Largely because Ken somehow experiences emotions and openly suffers for his problems, and Rom clamps himself to the last.
Now he's on some kind of terrible depressive spiral, so I rather expect self-sabotage from him.
@siberiandragon: On the contrary, the series shows that the children have not advanced a single gram since the beginning of the first season. Especially Siobhan and Kendall. The mere fact that they were ready to screw up the deal for revenge on their father, asking for more money, suggests that they don't think about business at all.
@Bice: Kendall should have been in rehab for a long time, not in power. From which, by the way, his dad pulled him out on the second day and put him in front of the whole country to apologize on camera
@shizuoasa: not for revenge on their father, they broke the deal because they wanted to be at the head of the media empire, the brainchild that Logan loved more than them) In their minds, it was something like a struggle for the love of their father.
there was a conversation between Marsha and Connor that Connor would buy this apartment from her. then Willa went around talking about what kind of load-bearing walls and what she would do
Such a contrast between Kendall at the beginning of the series and at the end, after he saw his name (with an underscore, they came up with a cool idea), he just turned on the killer instinct, I wonder what it will lead to. Shiv was completely pushed, I think her brothers will also throw her somehow, and she will answer and the situation will become even worse (for everyone). many people suspected about pregnancy, I wonder when Tom will reveal it.
Marsha has returned from eternal shopping and is terrifying, very tough with Kerry (Roman was pleased that he decided to help + before that, Willa's cool answer was "look at us both"). Greg was particularly annoying in this episode, but the Old Guard is good, Karl opened up in general. In general, another wonderful episode, I wonder how the next episode will solve the issues of the deal.
@kobiii: "many people suspected about pregnancy" - not taking into account the audience themselves, to be honest, I thought that in the scene on the stairs between Shiv and Marsha, she would fuck her about pregnancy with some kind of "congratulations", making it clear that she guessed. That was the look she had.
@medsmedsmeds: Oh, thank you, I really didn't understand at the first viewing!! I was only thinking about their reaction to my father's death at that moment
Wow, Strong's game just gets to the bone, in one episode to show so many emotions and transitions from one to another! This final frame of the series is just bravo, here's the killer Logan was talking about. Shiv is one hundred percent overturned, and she understands this very well, but she had no choice. But I will drown for Kendall in the last instance until the last, because it has always been him and only him. According to other Persians: Tom, as always, it's a pity, the scene on the steps with Shiv is heartbreaking; Marsha and Greg are just in the first position of my heitlist - okay, if Marsha has always been a snake, then Greg has been so exhausted this season that his every phrase and suspension causes nausea, even Tom is often shocked (but you yourself I taught him, technically, so reap the benefits); the episode with Carrie is purely a look at the wall - a wedding, seriously?! But Marsha treated her like a bitch. I wonder how soon everyone will find out about Shiv's pregnancy, it's clear that this arch was introduced because of the actress' pregnancy, but it's still curious to see how it will be woven into the plot And so, of course, as expected, everything became even dirtier with Logan's death, and then everything will only get worse (where's my popcorn, I'm ready)
@K2isOn: Tom is not sorry at all. If throughout all the seasons it was my favorite character, who seemed to me emotionally complicated, loving Siobhan, but at the same time wanting to take his place, then this season, at least these episodes, show only that he always thought only about his position, this series clearly showed how he started running from Kendall to Siobhan, from Siobhan to Roman and "ready to serve" everyone. Siobhan said correctly, "you bet on the wrong horse."
Bitch wars. Let it not be a direct analogy with well-known historical events, but the name perfectly describes the mess that is to be observed further.
I'm very worried about Kendall. And for his emotional state and for his actions. And uh, it's going to be too hot soon. And Shiv, I think, will show everyone else.
So is the name underlined or crossed out? Such a trifle, but how cool did they come up with it
"The line BEGINS clearly UNDER the name "Kendall", then rises up and remains at the bottom of the letters, but it looks like a strikethrough only at the very end. That is, the one who led the pencil from right to left wanted to emphasize - after all, the line arises and most of the time goes UNDER, and not by the name of Kendall."
... and a falling apart mind, and a falling apart soul. I wouldn't be surprised if his hand didn't waver, but he HIMSELF began to emphasize, but in the middle of the name changed his mind - and crossed out
I think there is no right answer here. Because the authors most likely wanted to sow doubt. The piece of paper legally did not solve anything, the whole point is in the sense that the children invested in its content. Kendal in particular. He used uncertainty to suggest that he was stressed, but in the push he still came to the conclusion that he was crossed out and decided to take revenge on his late father. Always doubting and demanding Kendal's approval. There is no Loganovsky rod in it.
Oh, Kendall, Kendall, a man with a lot of faces, on the one hand, I really want to see how Kendall will seize power, because before he was always stopped by Logan with his authority and manipulations, now he is not and maybe everything will work out, but it seems to me that we are waiting for an epic failure, because there will be a struggle between two personalities: a son who always wanted his father's recognition and a man who wants revenge, since the name was crossed out after all. That's who I'm really rooting for, so it's for Roman, yes, he's eccentric, but he has a grip, he's the one who should negotiate with Madson, they're even somewhat similar. About Shiv, it's a pity that she was pushed, they could at least offer the position of director of public relations, and since it's somehow unclear, like to be aware of everything, but in fact not to decide anything, I hope she will also show them. Watching Tom is incredibly comical that he is ready to serve everyone. Well, Marsha, oh, how this iron lady was missed in the world of chaos that had come)
@Casey: it wasn't crossed out, it still started with an underscore, if you do this on your knee, in bed, in general, not on the table, then it will turn out just that
It was already clear that the Swarms would start grating, so this series pleased the reaction of the rest of the entourage.Bravo to Karl, finally someone in front of everyone told the shit-eater that he was a shit-eater)). Marsha did well, she endured a lot, now she can come off, Carrie won't have enough money for shopping in Milan forever, that's for sure)). Colin quickly realized where the wind was blowing from and pushed Carrie out of the back door, Hugo managed to make money on death. Reading obituaries with children's comments is a separate art form. And all this is in the spirit of Logan, he reacted in the same way to the illness and death of his longtime colleague Sean McLintock.
@lars_wine_trier: exactly! The father is no longer there, but he is - settled in the brain, lay down in the heart of his son and dictates from there, slips a strap-on into his hand, twists his lips with a grin
on the one hand, Kendall well, kamon, still go to the p * ** * e and lose your brother. on the other hand, bitch Logan was only too happy to pour shit on his son for the sake of business - to remember at least the information about Ken's drug addiction that was leaked to the newspapers. so I don't want Kendall to go down to the batty level, but this is required by the laws of tragedy
@crazybee: it's also a shame how Shiv was pushed - it was she who solved the situation when Logan had urine in his head last season. it was she who was the person who put on big pants in a crisis situation
My feminist spirit haunts me and demands justice for Shiv(( Divorce, pregnancy, suspension, what's next?! Manicurist and cooking? I hope she's rehabilitated.
PS: I'm not saying that pregnancy is bad and leads to stagnation, I'm just talking about the heroine's case.
@full_fusion: in Shiv's case, she probably believes that pregnancy is bad and leads to stagnation. according to the conversation with the doctor, it is clear that she was hoping for some problems with pregnancy that would give a good reason for an abortion
In the beginning, the old guard discussed that the leaflet should disappear. And this is clearly not the piece of paper that was shown to us. Judging by Kerry's crying and the words "we can't let the princess ruin everything," Logan was going to leave her something serious. I think one of the three old men hid this piece of paper in his pocket
@MII: so he sees that there is something on the piece of paper that is beneficial to Jerry, "jokes" that it would be nice for the piece of paper to get lost, Jerry immediately comes in, he shows her the piece of paper, and she also says that it would be better for him to get lost? What?
@Lavash:Carl wanted to destroy the piece of paper, he understood that if he showed Jerry, she would never go for it (a lawyer) and a farce would begin, which would increase the chances of Jerry herself. So by the way it turned out. Why should they be afraid in Carrie's business, Logan could have left her money, but not to manage the firm, that's for sure. Carl wanted to become CEO and said bluntly that if Jerry bypassed him, he would take the money and get out of the company. And of course he shows it to Jerry, he actually holds it in his hands when she enters, they are very smart people and understand that you can't lose a piece of paper, no matter how much you would like.
@ElinaKhachukaeva: Shiv can't be a serious competitor, Ken and Rom are right, the board won't vote for her, she didn't work for the company. Although perhaps by "princess" they meant Ken.
@MII: and then why does Jerry agree that there is something on the piece of paper that they don't need, if according to you there is something beneficial to Jerry herself? I'm not saying he wanted to leave Carrie's firm. But there could be some benefits for her there. A seat on the council, for example
@Lavash: Without a leaf, they have two candidates-Carl and Jerry. Carl has advantages: he is the financial director, Frank is in charge of him, Jerry has already managed. Jerry sees Ken on a piece of paper and realizes that the deal is under threat. Whoever they were talking about, Carrie wasn't even there, she wasn't even allowed to take the trinkets.
Oh, what bad children. Everything indicates to them that they are strong while together, even their own feelings, but no! I hope that at least by the end they will come to their senses.
Tom is like a gray cardinal, manipulating everyone. Obviously, he arranged this confrontation between Shiv and the brothers in order to put her on the throne later, and stand behind him himself.
Again: I hope the children will get a little smarter by the end.
Most of all, I was impressed by Tom's monologue about their first time with Shiv (well, just Mr. Darcy, I got goosebumps). and Ken's smile at the end, of course.
@nuhanbasy: You think so, because there was a big break in the year between the seasons. And then bam died at the beginning of the season. And if you don't watch ongoing, then in principle everything is logical, he dies towards the end of the series, although I haven't watched it yet and I don't know if he died or not.
Well, Kendall, I already believed you once that you could do it as a father, and everything ended in extremely deplorable. My vote is for Roman, it feels like the character has matured, with a good environment, he at least did not spoil anything.
The novel turned from a character who caused bewilderment and sometimes even disgust into the most beloved, though still incomprehensible. The actor's facial expressions are just on top. It can be reviewed several times. And sarcastic comments just fly away. And yes, as noted above, the character has really grown compared to season 1 and 2
Больше всего озадачила беременность Шивон, ведь когда у них с Томом был разговор о детях в прошлом сезоне, она была на таблетках, потом на маминой свадьбе психанула и сказала, что надо завести, но сразу после этого у них всё разладилось, и занято это не так уж много времени. Что за непорочное зачатие такое.
@Craulis: у них потом были разговоры про овуляцию, Том стал следить за календарём. Когда она это поняла, ей не понравилось, но может в предыдущие месяцы как раз и получилось
Шив и Кен мерзкие. Кендалла было жаль после смерти официанта и я не понимала, зачем Логан его мучает, но теперь вижу, что Кен относительно нормально себя ведет только когда он морально уничтожен. Сначала мне не нравился и Роман, но со второго сезона он единственный из детей, за кем приятно наблюдать, особенно в тандеме с Джерри, который теперь, похоже, безнадежно разрушен 😭 Не понимаю, почему Джерри хотела занять должность Логана сейчас, когда в первом сезоне ей предложили она отказалась, сказав что не хочет должность, от которой взрывается мозг - что изменилось сейчас? Не верится, что Керри и правда грустит из-за смерти Логана: в самолете улыбалась, на этих поминках не забыла упомянуть, что они с Логаном собирались пожениться и он должен был что-то сказать адвокату
@sameoldblues: "Не понимаю, почему Джерри хотела занять должность Логана сейчас, когда в первом сезоне ей предложили она отказалась, сказав что не хочет должность, от которой взрывается мозг - что изменилось сейчас?"
На тот момент компания была практически банкрот. И она была одним из трех человек, которые это знали.
@Cathe_Rine: > Грег, который вызывал симпатию и сочувствие в первом сезоне, постепенно становится самым мерзким героем сериала Мерзким опортунистом он был с самого начала сериала, когда его мамаша наставляла "поговорить" с Логаном о его возможных перспективах в этой компании. Не знаю, как можно жалеть двухметрового 30 летнего фрика, обдолбанного травой и работающим в качестве маскота в детском парке развлечений.
Сериал показывает, как те, кто варится в этом клубе "для своих" в конечном счёте ссучивается и старается скинуть ближнего. Никто не вызывает уважения. Отчасти Конор не вызывает омерзения. Да, он старый избалованный дурачок без дела, родившийся с золотой ложкой в заднице, но он, на моей памяти, хотя бы не совершал мерзких поступков и не подставлял никого, особенно из круга семьи. И это как раз яркий показатель, что он оставался всегда в стороне от дел компании и общества семьи, потому и как человек на голову выше своих сиблингов.
Вот не понимаю, как у такого БОГАТОГО и влиятельного мужика, как Логан, не было нормального завещания! У него же и юрист был, явно и не один, и плохо ему было за три сезона не раз - почему он не составил завещание?? Ладно про генерального директора, но хотя бы кому отойдут его деньги, недвижимость? Например почему Марша решила, что может продавать эту квартиру - она что ли на неё записана?
At first, I also exploded with this question, and then I thought that Logan most likely believed in his eternity and invulnerability so much that he simply denied the need for a will for himself. I was putting it off for later and didn't catch when it would have been time. Or maybe it also says that he was afraid of death, and having made a will, he would admit that one day it would happen.
Ken's final smile seems to remind us that we have not only King Lear here, but also King Oedipus. I started leaning towards the fact that the series would end with children who ruined everything, and these final seconds again made me think about Ken, who became Logan. Or will he leave the ruins of their empire? In words, he is Logan Roy, but in fact...
But this is too complicated a combination, so it seems to me that yes, Logan dropped this unfortunate phone after all. Whether he managed to listen to Roman's message or not is another question, but Roman will think one hundred percent that he did if he finds out (Greg is still a talker). Or maybe this information is just for us to add sadness to Logan's death
Ken lacks a backbone, no matter how hard he tries, even his pathetic performance forgiving his father into some kind of chewing snot eventually resulted. Let's see now if he will be able to grow it, smiling, or still ruin the company in the process
The main thing is that the manic episode does not have time to be replaced by a depressive one, otherwise everything is exactly there...
Now he's on some kind of terrible depressive spiral, so I rather expect self-sabotage from him.
go for it, babe, go!
Marsha has returned from eternal shopping and is terrifying, very tough with Kerry (Roman was pleased that he decided to help + before that, Willa's cool answer was "look at us both"). Greg was particularly annoying in this episode, but the Old Guard is good, Karl opened up in general. In general, another wonderful episode, I wonder how the next episode will solve the issues of the deal.
I was only thinking about their reaction to my father's death at that moment
Shiv is one hundred percent overturned, and she understands this very well, but she had no choice. But I will drown for Kendall in the last instance until the last, because it has always been him and only him.
According to other Persians: Tom, as always, it's a pity, the scene on the steps with Shiv is heartbreaking; Marsha and Greg are just in the first position of my heitlist - okay, if Marsha has always been a snake, then Greg has been so exhausted this season that his every phrase and suspension causes nausea, even Tom is often shocked (but you yourself I taught him, technically, so reap the benefits); the episode with Carrie is purely a look at the wall - a wedding, seriously?! But Marsha treated her like a bitch. I wonder how soon everyone will find out about Shiv's pregnancy, it's clear that this arch was introduced because of the actress' pregnancy, but it's still curious to see how it will be woven into the plot
And so, of course, as expected, everything became even dirtier with Logan's death, and then everything will only get worse (where's my popcorn, I'm ready)
And Shiv, I think, will show everyone else.
So is the name underlined or crossed out? Such a trifle, but how cool did they come up with it
I wouldn't be surprised if his hand didn't waver,
but he HIMSELF began to emphasize, but in the middle of the name changed his mind - and crossed out
Reminded me how he shat himself.
to a gif with a strap-on grin)
The father is no longer there, but he is - settled in the brain, lay down in the heart of his son and dictates from there, slips a strap-on into his hand, twists his lips with a grin
so I don't want Kendall to go down to the batty level, but this is required by the laws of tragedy
PS: I'm not saying that pregnancy is bad and leads to stagnation, I'm just talking about the heroine's case.
give my girl a break
Tom is like a gray cardinal, manipulating everyone. Obviously, he arranged this confrontation between Shiv and the brothers in order to put her on the throne later, and stand behind him himself.
Again: I hope the children will get a little smarter by the end.
The house was sold even before the funeral speech!!
PS
I'm still one of those who had "Kendall" crossed out.
Не понимаю, почему Джерри хотела занять должность Логана сейчас, когда в первом сезоне ей предложили она отказалась, сказав что не хочет должность, от которой взрывается мозг - что изменилось сейчас?
Не верится, что Керри и правда грустит из-за смерти Логана: в самолете улыбалась, на этих поминках не забыла упомянуть, что они с Логаном собирались пожениться и он должен был что-то сказать адвокату
"Не понимаю, почему Джерри хотела занять должность Логана сейчас, когда в первом сезоне ей предложили она отказалась, сказав что не хочет должность, от которой взрывается мозг - что изменилось сейчас?"
На тот момент компания была практически банкрот. И она была одним из трех человек, которые это знали.
Интересно, конечно, как Грег, который вызывал симпатию и сочувствие в первом сезоне, постепенно становится самым мерзким героем сериала
Мерзким опортунистом он был с самого начала сериала, когда его мамаша наставляла "поговорить" с Логаном о его возможных перспективах в этой компании. Не знаю, как можно жалеть двухметрового 30 летнего фрика, обдолбанного травой и работающим в качестве маскота в детском парке развлечений.
Сериал показывает, как те, кто варится в этом клубе "для своих" в конечном счёте ссучивается и старается скинуть ближнего. Никто не вызывает уважения. Отчасти Конор не вызывает омерзения. Да, он старый избалованный дурачок без дела, родившийся с золотой ложкой в заднице, но он, на моей памяти, хотя бы не совершал мерзких поступков и не подставлял никого, особенно из круга семьи. И это как раз яркий показатель, что он оставался всегда в стороне от дел компании и общества семьи, потому и как человек на голову выше своих сиблингов.