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s01e08 — The Beginning

Fallout — s01e08 — The Beginning

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Released: 10.04.202410.04.2024 15:00
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1 season
s01e08
s01e01 - The End
s01e02 - The Target
s01e03 - The Head
s01e04 - The Ghouls
s01e05 - The Past
s01e06 - The Trap
s01e07 - The Radio
s01e08 - The Beginning

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YoTha
YoTha
11 Apr 14:43 # Show original
The tale that corporations are evil, courtesy of Amazon. It's ironic.
I'm absolutely thrilled, I'm looking forward to continuing in New Vegas.
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Apr 06:22 # Show original
@YoTha: and they are not shy at all, at least remember The Boys. However, this is not a new story in the game industry, how many parallels were made between Ubisoft and Abstergo, for example
SpAwN_gUy
SpAwN_gUy
14 Apr 02:59 # Show original
@Skyscore: not only that, Abstergo is in games. So on TV skirts produce mythic quest...
mbro
mbro
12 Apr 06:57 # Show original
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Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Apr 07:09 # Show original
@mbro: it also says in plain text that the wife offered to be the first to drop a nuclear bomb, not relying on chance and hedging risks
mbro
mbro
12 Apr 07:46 # Show original
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YoTha
YoTha
12 Apr 08:38 # Show original
@mbro: They also said that corporations influence peace negotiations so that they end in nothing, because if the nuclear apocalypse does not come, the shelters will be useless and investments in them will go down the drain.
Darth_Rexther
Darth_Rexther
12 Apr 12:07 # Show original
@mbro: In the games, it has not been fully figured out who started it, this is one of the mysteries of the universe
GreenHedgehog
GreenHedgehog
PRO
12 Apr 18:43 # Show original
@mbro: Well, let's go... And then who was the first to drop the nuke? The question of this has been worrying fans for many years.

No one has ever said that these countries started a war. It just suddenly started.

And if you watch the first episode, there weren't even any traces of missiles.
mbro
mbro
12 Apr 19:01 # Show original
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YoTha
YoTha
12 Apr 19:26 # Show original
@mbro: countries started a conventional war, and it turned into a nuclear one thanks to corporations, at least according to this series. If you look with your eyes and listen with your ears, it would be possible to understand what you obviously did not do.
mbro
mbro
12 Apr 19:33 # Show original
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YoTha
YoTha
12 Apr 19:43 # Show original
@mbro: not only are you unfaithful to your word that you got into the comments, but you also did not get the chance to check the relationship of the series to the canon of games. The series is canonical to the games, despite the inconsistencies, this is the official position of both the producers of the series and Bethesda, who own the rights to the franchise, so I advise you to check the sources before dumping your nonsense.
ufo_passenger
ufo_passenger
12 Apr 21:14 # Show original
@mbro: States and corporations do not exist separately from each other. It's essentially the same thing. They are simply divided into a public information field to maintain the discourse.
SmilePS
SmilePS
13 Apr 12:48 # Show original
@mbro: I am glad that people like you are in the minority, otherwise they would have lived in the fallout world for a long time.
Falleny
Falleny
13 Apr 17:24 # Show original
@mbro: And the events of the series develop in the game universe, everything that happened in the series is a canon for games. The words of Todd himself and representatives of Bethesda.

Therefore, it is now the official canon that corporations, not countries, started the war (:
Skyscore
Skyscore
13 Apr 17:28 # Show original
@Falleny: wait with this conclusion, we were only shown that the wife OFFERED to drop a bomb, but we did not even see a unanimous yes vote. And even so, the Chinese who dropped the bomb first are still the official canon
AndreyChernyaev
AndreyChernyaev
14 Apr 01:44 # Show original
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Dark_Alice
Dark_Alice
14 Apr 13:42 # Show original
@mbro: If we look from their perspective, then the state under capitalism is run by corporations. They lobby their interests through senators, because without financial support it is stupid not to get elected. Well, you have to pay off your debts. Under a dictatorship, the situation is a little simpler: the state is one person. But the result of all this fuss is about the same: what will happen to ordinary people does not matter to anyone.
m45
m45
14 Apr 16:04 # Show original
@Darth_Rexther: their own, they started their own.
NiaTeppelin
NiaTeppelin
PRO
17 Apr 02:52 # Show original
@Skyscore: Strictly speaking, it does not follow from Barb Howard's words that the Great War began this way. In other words, plan!= implement.

Personally, I would not like such violence against the ent of the universe. In the original Fallout, there were records that the war really unfolded between states, and that the first explosions in the United States were on the east coast; in F4 it is explicitly stated that the war began with the fixation of ICBM launches.
mbro
mbro
17 Apr 03:45 # Show original
@Skyscore: I wrote about this, albeit tongue-tied (tongue-tied is my perk) - the states started the nuclear war.

But I understand the current tension of the public and their desire to blame everything on evil corporations.
mbro
mbro
17 Apr 03:51 # Show original
@NiaTeppelin: it seems to be in the previous parts (or dls, which is not canon?) They talked. I'll look for it later, and I'll unsubscribe if the account is not banned for cons (otherwise I dared to say that newvegas is the worst part)
vsdb104
vsdb104
18 Apr 03:35 # Show original
@GreenHedgehog: The author of the original Fallout, Tim Kane, confirmed that China started a nuclear war in the game's universe. However, he said this in October 2023 and, apparently, his words may no longer be canon.
mbro
mbro
24 Apr 04:37 # Show original
@vsdb104: everyone drowns for the canon when it is convenient for them, and condemns it when it is inconvenient
Citokos
Citokos
26 Apr 09:27 # Show original
@vsdb104: ///Tim Kane confirmed that China started a nuclear war in the game universe. However, he said this in October 2023 and, apparently, his words may no longer be canon.///

I've heard the opinion that it's about money as usual. ;-)

The series will definitely go to China, with its crazy-sized audience. How would you smooth out the corners?
Seraph6
Seraph6
30 Apr 08:45 # Show original
@YoTha: IMHO, from a financial point of view, investments in shelters have already paid off, places in them have been sold heavily in advance. At the time of the explosion, pozdnyak was already looking for customers.
There is more of an ideological point here. Let's start a war so that all other factions capable of waging war, except ours, die out.
According to the same methodology, Shady Sands was destroyed.
maxonchikbk
maxonchikbk
PRO
19 Jun 10:25 # Show original
@Seraph6: well, this is a direct allusion to the real world. America never allows alternative factions to exist, even if no one really gets into their business. A communist, a dictator, a madman - they will come up with a reason to unleash another war somewhere. Nolan has huge balls to promote such a scenario)
Dark_Punk
Dark_Punk
12 Apr 14:08 # Show original
@YoTha: the main joke is that it benefits them, corporations profit by talking about how bad it is when corporations profit... Capitalism in its purest form
JTBuzya
JTBuzya
12 Apr 19:12 # Show original
@YoTha: so to say: the more you talk about conspiracies in any works, the less people believe in them. Similar topics are often raised in films and TV series, but the audience is watching "haha, it's good that these are all movies and TV series, but in real life this is not the case." Eye aversion, so to speak. If you want to hide something, hide it in the most visible place.
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
14 Apr 16:38 # Show original
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gkalian
gkalian
14 Apr 18:35 # Show original
@MarkRaffer: Maximus just has a perk "Savant" pumped in. He walks around with the same face for almost the entire series. Apparently he was told to play like that, I don't know, in an interview he is much more lively and emotional than in the series.
ppcpc10
ppcpc10
14 Apr 19:55 # Show original
@MarkRaffer: Bortich played Maximus perfectly. The last of us is boring stuff that you can watch x2 or rewind.
SlimFast
SlimFast
16 Apr 00:03 # Show original
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MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
16 Apr 00:20 # Show original
@SlimFast: that yes... It is not surprising.
umaryan
umaryan
PRO
20 Apr 12:31 # Show original
@MarkRaffer: there is one thing, but the character of this nigga turned out better than the character of Fin in the new Star Wars trilogy. That nigga sure screwed up.
SlimFast
SlimFast
16 Apr 00:01 # Show original
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maxonchikbk
maxonchikbk
PRO
19 Jun 10:18 # Show original
@YoTha: and it also says that America is constantly waging wars all over the world for resources. And if you don't like it, you're a communist.
al_topchiy
al_topchiy
PRO
11 Apr 17:07 # Show original
Pretty logos from series to series
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
11 Apr 23:22 # Show original
@al_topchiy: By the way, these unique screensavers were very pleased with the details! Another plus is that the screensaver is short.
Tonybofthedead
Tonybofthedead
27 Apr 10:10 # Show original
@al_topchiy: Yeah, cool idea, minimalistic, but stylish. And the endings are beautiful and new for each episode)
Ogasta
Ogasta
10 May 18:16 # Show original
@Tonybofthedead: What do you mean?
myauser
myauser
10 May 19:59 # Show original
@Ogasta: background in the end credits of each episode
КонорРоуч
КонорРоуч
11 Apr 17:39 # Show original
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Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
12 Apr 22:45 # Show original
@Conorrouch: Why did you go through the thread and slap all the cons? Gone.
ppcpc10
ppcpc10
13 Apr 14:04 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: well, slap him back if you're so worried about the ratings )
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
13 Apr 16:20 # Show original
@ppcpc10: Yes, let's also pretend that I'm the problem here. I'm not going to slap anything at him, and it's not about grades, but that the person is inadequate, such actions can demotivate commentators, but as you can see, he doesn't give a damn about people, only I have questions for him: "Why did he do it, why so, etc." He's not okay with it))
IIIelKot
IIIelKot
13 Apr 18:40 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: I agree, it's not that I was very worried about the cons, I actually just now found out that you can see who put the cons, but like, I didn't enter into a discussion, nothing, just swept through the comments and fucked up the cons, and then talks about illogical actions \_(ツ)_/
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
13 Apr 18:51 # Show original
@IIIelKot: That's what I'm talking about! Personally, I had several hundred disadvantages here on the comments, I don't see a problem at all if people really disagree, please. But this one just to fuck with everyone did it, and yes, as you also noticed, with amazing hypocrisy. I just couldn't pass by and not write to him directly that I know it's him, I remembered him as an inadequate person for myself, maybe this warning will help someone else.
rin_rin
rin_rin
13 Apr 21:18 # Show original
He recently threw dizes at me for no reason under all the comments on the series "Ripley", I also thought "what kind of inadequacy is this?"😂🫣And it turns out that he is like that to everyone and everywhere, well, then a tooth for a tooth)))
ppcpc10
ppcpc10
14 Apr 00:03 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: Every second one of them is here. The owners of the resource have not done anything about it for years, which means they are satisfied.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
14 Apr 00:23 # Show original
@Rin_Rin: And why am I not surprised? Hmm... Catch a plus from me))
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
14 Apr 00:32 # Show original
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AlexWulfert
AlexWulfert
17 Apr 10:36 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: Oh yeah, how do I understand you
Shm
Shm
18 Apr 13:59 # Show original
@IIIelKot: And how to watch it?
mynameisbang
mynameisbang
18 Apr 19:06 # Show original
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rin_rin
rin_rin
18 Apr 21:09 # Show original
I'm fine with the cons, if a person just didn't like my comment / the person doesn't agree with my opinion ... but if one person stupidly puts cons everywhere to me, then this is for himself…
IIIelKot
IIIelKot
19 Apr 11:11 # Show original
@Shm: just click on the number with the rating
ShrekByka
ShrekByka
27 Apr 02:33 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: I went through the thread and slapped you with a minus sign.
The series is very cool by the way, I'll go to fallout 3 and finally pass
Canary
Canary
13 May 23:44 # Show original
Ahah well, thank you for the comment, now I know that you can watch who put a like, and who dislikes
skobkin
skobkin
PRO
14 May 17:44 # Show original
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skobkin
skobkin
PRO
14 May 17:45 # Show original
@Conorrouch: I didn't see any illogicalities.

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Диана713
Диана713
11 Apr 18:07 # Show original
I really liked it
AlinaBykova
AlinaBykova
24 May 00:12 # Show original
I liked it in general too, BUT!
Are these blunders or did I not understand something?:
-how could Dad McLean, being the caretaker of the 33rd and communicating through a computer with the brain of Bud Askins, not know what happened in the 32nd? The corpses were mummified there for a long time, did this brain in a box and father McLean was not at all worried about such a long silence on the air, and before the wedding he was not embarrassed that unfamiliar people answered and came when they were there through one relative?
- A water chip broke in shelter 33? Let's forget about it in a couple of episodes, no one will notice. And why was it a problem at all, if the 32nd is empty next to it, take the chip from there.
- they didn't explain in any way how Muldaver lived so long. The most logical assumption is a cryocamera. OK, but then why did it unfreeze after the disaster exactly 200 years later, and not start operating immediately? Or even later?
- why in this series Cooper put down several Paladins at once in seconds (knowing the vulnerable point of their armor), and at the beginning of the series he butted heads with Maximus for so long when they both came for the scientist.
Well, there's also a bunch of small things, for example: in 4ka, the "forbidden" 12th level and the power unit of the entire shelter are not guarded at all (even considering that they let everyone in); how did the residents of 4ka find and why did they drag Maximus armor into the shelter?; a slightly limping but quite well-moving person with a leg in the form of sliced meat.... Yes, there are many more🫠
Citokos
Citokos
29 May 12:31 # Show original
@AlinaBykova: /// how could Dad McLean, being the caretaker of the 33rd and communicating through a computer with the brain of Bud Askins, not know what happened in the 32nd?...Such a long silence on the air///

He's probably not such a big shot in Vol Tech. They're all lab mice there. There was a riot in '32. It's been two years since the population was destroyed!

It can also be assumed that the messages are pre-moderated. And all the correspondence was with the bot.

The question is how Moldiver and her 40 robbers were able to intercept the communication channel. But, this problem is purely technical.

///if the 32nd is empty next to it///

It seemed to me that this is an evil satire on this whole democracy. Complete fools are climbing onto the podium, elbowing each other. The tunnel in the 32nd was filled up by an explosion. Well, Okie Doke. There are more important things to do. We need to hold elections. :)

/// at the beginning of the series, I butted heads with Maximus for so long///

I've heard the opinion that this is a purely gaming feature. The Ghoul was in a playful mood. Since he's been rocking for 200 years! Then his strength is not measured. Like a cat with a mouse. He went out into the middle of the square, and took out the whole city! Suddenly, a knight from the Brotherhood of Steel flew in, and the Ghoul mockingly took him with a knife!!!

///how did the inhabitants of 4ka find and why did they bring Maximus' armor to the shelter?///

Shelter number 4 is a bad shelter. There were inhuman experiments on humans. :(

There was a riot and the laboratory mice won. There's also Moldiver's hand with the survivors of the bombed-out town of Shady Sands. 4-ka is no longer controlled by Vol-Tech. This is a free settlement. Some of the inhabitants came from the surface. Which means they don't have a taboo on going out. There should be scouts patrolling the area anyway. The beds, there, some on the surface to guard. If there are resources, they should be used. Armor is like our tank! It will come in handy on the farm. ;)
Nasyak
Nasyak
21 Jun 21:30 # Show original
The question of how Moldaver lived so long remains open. Maybe she planned to survive and somehow got a place in the shelter.
radisu
radisu
11 Apr 19:43 # Show original
Okie doki, the series came out, at least interesting.
Firstly, as a person who has passed all the parts of Fallout more than once (especially the 2nd part), NEW VEGAS is waiting for us, and it's a hundred times better, the aesthetics of this season, made in the style of the 4th part (one Legion is worth waiting for)
Secondly, there is a lot of black humor, non-standard moves and injuries of the main characters (although there is a steampunk, so all the necessary characters will survive), the plot, of course, is the search for the father, but not mediocre
Thirdly, the secondary characters are gorgeous, I could watch a couple more road movie episodes of Pernell and Goggins, the chemistry is felt, the branches with Lucy's brother, Goggins' wife and daughter have good potential.
There are no questions for the actors.
Fourthly, there are a ton of references, they are everywhere, in phrases, on the screen, in the soundtrack.

Amazon and others (it feels like a lot of people who love the Fallout universe participated in the team) created a wonderful series (not a walk-through, like the Lord of the Rings), which at least will appeal to fans of 3 and 4 fallouts, and as a maximum will come in as an attraction and acquaintance with the universe for everyone else

Goggins is inexcusably few on the screen, a spinoff about the brotherhood has become unequivocally necessary, and all hopes that Nolan will not mess up with the second season (I remember the World of the Wild West)
mbro
mbro
11 Apr 23:14 # Show original
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Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
11 Apr 23:20 # Show original
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radisu
radisu
12 Apr 18:44 # Show original
@mbro: well, actually statistically, everyone who grew up on the 1st and 2nd parts of the fallout, in theory, loves NewVegas, but as usual, everyone tastes and colors
radisu
radisu
12 Apr 18:52 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: well, I perceive New Vegas in the style of a western as a logical apocalypse, if we imagine that all the factories and governments around will fall, then we will not return to the Stone Age (we will have too much knowledge), but everyone we meet will not have smartphones (technologies are very expensive)

Therefore, when everything collapses around, the easiest thing is to build a farm and collect primitive and cheap firearms, and live by the principle of the law is the one who is stronger and who has a bigger gun.;

Naturally casinos, slaves, drugs, religion will flourish in such a world)
mbro
mbro
12 Apr 19:04 # Show original
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Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
12 Apr 20:07 # Show original
@radisu: In other parts, there was also slavery, drugs and religion, I think that's not the point here. I didn't notice much difference in technology either, it's just that something in the atmosphere is purely Western, not post-apocalyptic. Maybe when Vegas is transferred to the series, it will feel different there, I don't know.
ppcpc10
ppcpc10
13 Apr 14:08 # Show original
@mbro: that is, f3 with a round multilevel oblivion city (or whatever the gazebo originally did?), with giant crabs and other game - this is in the spirit of fallout. Is New Vegas with death claws and different factions something wrong? Against the background of f3, this is very much a fallout.
Falleny
Falleny
13 Apr 17:27 # Show original
@mbro: When Fallout 4 and 76 are live? He made me laugh.
mbro
mbro
17 Apr 04:00 # Show original
@ppcpc10: Yes, that's right. Vegas was not even saved by the factions (well, they are, it is unclear what they affect), there was absolutely no atmosphere. There is no spirit, it is unclear what you are doing there and why, just running back and forth.

There's only the dialog interface and the claws of death from fallout, and weak ones at that. Flying poisonous insects were even cooler than the claws of death.

The final at the dam is generally a separate topic, I just followed the allies and did not understand what the difference was between mine and others.

The spirit of fallout is when you get out of the shelter and don't understand what's going on around, and not where you are some kind of courier. At this rate, you will write down tactics in your favorite parts, because there are unique mechanics there.
Lepestok
Lepestok
17 Apr 08:23 # Show original
@mbro: Tactics has been in favour for a long time. So is Vegas. Like the first two parts...
it's unclear what you're doing in New Vegas? YOU're FIGURING OUT WHY THE FUCK YOU GOT SHOT IN THE HEAD! Weak motivation in your opinion?
ppcpc10
ppcpc10
17 Apr 08:36 # Show original
@mbro: I don't know what I was playing there. It is quite difficult to kill the claws of death, all these flying hornets were not standing nearby (they could be killed calmly from a sniper and they did not have time to fly, unlike the claws of death, which are difficult to lure out one at a time, they quickly ran and hit hard).
Factions affect the plot, quests, the ending, everything is as it should be in an RPG.
The finale is an excellent large-scale hack, in which suddenly it is not necessary to kill all the enemies yourself, and some of the work will be done by allies, whom you will recruit by completing quests and choosing a side.
Is it okay that the starting and conditionally main quest of the first and second fallout is to find a stray and bring it? Is it not a courier? And a lot of quests are courier.
The main disadvantage of New Vegas is that somewhere in the middle there is a lot of tiring running around.
mbro
mbro
17 Apr 10:04 # Show original
@ppcpc10: I support running around right away.

I wrote about the factions and the final above - I was not hooked. I didn't understand the motive of the main character, his motivation, I didn't understand the actions and psychology of the NPCs, factions, and everything in general. After f1 and f2 (and even f3, which triggers many) I wasn't interested in playing it.

A simple megaton from f3 caused me more emotions than the whole of Vegas.

And about "finding a stray and bringing " about f1 and f2 - no, not at all. The quest was to save his people, community/refuge.
mbro
mbro
17 Apr 10:06 # Show original
@Lepestok: if you have tactics in your favorites, then it's probably strange to accuse me of disliking newvegas.
mbro
mbro
17 Apr 10:17 # Show original
@ppcpc10: I do not understand why a point of view that does not coincide with the popular one is ignored. I'm an old fan of the fallout universe, I don't write anything offensive, I'm interested in reading your opinion and writing my own in the comments.

Well, okay, then there will be only one point of view in the comments, hello dead habr.
ppcpc10
ppcpc10
17 Apr 15:10 # Show original
@mbro: minus = disagreement. I disagree somewhere and I don't want to write another comment. "I disagree." - I put a minus. Personally, the most obscure comment now has a total score of -56 (I'm not following, I looked at it now for the sake of interest). As it is, there are more than 80 cons. Nothing happened, they didn't ban me, they didn't forbid me to write. Grades don't seem to affect anything.
radisu
radisu
17 Apr 17:38 # Show original
@mbro: "statistically" , "in theory " and " in taste and color" , all these three words say something, apparently that you are not part of the group that is being talked about With these three words, you are part of another group. Let's say I expressed my opinion, the usual opinion, does not pretend to anything, does not force anyone, does not propagandize anything. Usually, people who think differently pass by, they do not perceive this opinion as the truth that they are trying to impose on them, and they understand perfectly well that there are people in this world with an opinion different from their opinion, and this is normal, different people think and comment differently, everyone has their own opinion.
Do you compare your opinion with others every time? And if it does not match yours, you definitely need to speak out in the spirit of "why the author of the comment thinks this way, because I think in a completely different way, you need to write about it urgently, someone is wrong on the Internet"
I'm glad that you like other games in the Fallout universe unlike me, and it's very strange that you're confused that there are other people who like games that you don't like.
petrov_vr
petrov_vr
21 Apr 14:46 # Show original
The series was waiting, and for a reason, because it turned out great. Of course, I've heard about the Fallout universe, I've tried to go through it, but I've never gone through any of the parts.But after watching the series, I really wanted to do it, so I'll leave a review as just a passing person.
It will be easy for a simple person who is not familiar with the universe to integrate, because even the scenery in the background is made with a professional approach. The plot is not drawn out and not tedious. Black humor completely dilutes the whole picture and fell out of some jokes.
The main characters, as well as the minor characters, are very well developed. It is impossible to say unequivocally about him whether he is good or bad, everyone has their own story. And as a result, everything was remembered, and not like in other TV series, when sometimes you forget what the main character's name was.
The soundtrack and atmosphere are worked out at a high level. It would be very interesting to learn more about New California and the Brotherhood of Steel. I think there will definitely be spinoffs.
The plot seemed strange in places, but quite understandable and interesting. Many people do not believe that the corporation could have dropped the bomb itself, but why not believe it? They had plenty of money, technology also allows, there are connections in the government, and moral principles have gone into the background - in general, there are no prohibitions. They dropped it on some country under the guise, without having time to figure it out, it already responded to the "aggression" of another and here's a nuclear war for you.
So the conclusion is that we are waiting for the continuation, and I hope it will not be worse.
I definitely recommend watching it!👍
fb424510
fb424510
10 May 00:38 # Show original
@mbro:
Vegas was literally made by people from Black Isle Studios. It is not soy, unlike 3/4. There are a lot of options for completing both the game itself and individual quests.
You either haven't played, or you're not a fan of the original games in the series.
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Apr 06:27 # Show original
@radisu: I'm terribly sorry, but what didn't you like about MDZ? for me, the second and especially the third seasons raised the bar of the first (I did not get to the final, I just need to review everything, I forgot the details). We developed the idea, moved away from the banal pursuit of a solution in favor of multiple complex lines
Сериальщик732
Сериальщик732
13 Apr 12:07 # Show original
@Skyscore: Two legs are like 4. But three are really the bottom
radisu
radisu
17 Apr 17:47 # Show original
@Skyscore: purely tasteful, but I don't like them just because of self-repetition and stomping on the spot, thanks at least they gave birth to Jesse Pinkman, his character had an interesting idea, all the others got zero development for the 2nd and 3rd seasons
shine_shine
shine_shine
14 Apr 01:30 # Show original
I'm sorry, but this is "OKIE DOKEY" and even from the character of Lucy's father (Kyle McLachlan), who played in "Sex and the City" (Charlotte's ex) and there he constantly said this "OKIE dokey" ...😅 Is that also a reference? I know it's crazy, but it just cut me))) Mb just in this idealistic society of 33 with the prototype of the 60s, where was this word trending? Not a fact, but an assumption 🤔
Seraph6
Seraph6
30 Apr 08:53 # Show original
@shine_shine: And we watched all the seasons of Fargo right before the Fallout, it was also a good thing there. :)
afrikata
afrikata
04 Jun 19:05 # Show original
@shine_shine: yes, I also remembered about Sex in the big city right away - a very unexpected Easter egg if you addressed this series))
shine_shine
shine_shine
04 Jun 19:08 # Show original
I would like to think that this is an Easter egg, since the same word + the same actor 😄 But it seems that this is just his type – such a classic husband from the 60s. And perhaps they have this typical word just for such people/era 🤷🏻♀️ I don't know, I don't know))
SlimFast
SlimFast
16 Apr 00:05 # Show original
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Nog
Nog
11 Apr 22:50 # Show original
I will not say that I am wildly delighted. But I watched it with great pleasure and without looking away, and this does not happen very often. The plot immediately swung at the global question of who arranged all this at all, and does not waste money on trifles, but reveals it through intersecting personal stories, it turned out well.
I liked the characters in general, some more, some less, but at least I didn't want to see anyone.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
11 Apr 23:18 # Show original
Fallout is probably the most "native" game for me, and frankly, I was equally waiting for the series and was afraid that the authors would shit themselves in full.
What I liked:
1. Attention to detail, in terms of decorations at least, right down to the paintings on the walls, the only thing is that all these decorations are from the four, but still, they are conscientiously done.
2. Music! There were probably only three songs that I hadn't heard at all, of the rest I know almost half by heart, and I'm almost sure that most of these songs weren't in the game, but I definitely heard them in fashion on the radio, of course it could just be a coincidence, well, like they were looking for songs from the same era.
3. Meat and other non-childish topics, there could be more, but I am glad that they were not removed for children. In general, some kind of fall atmosphere was tightened, although I would not say that even the 4th, which was clearly filmed, was completely transferred, but in the video I count as a plus because each part has its own atmosphere.
4. Characters. It probably wasn't intended that way, but I practically didn't see any "good" characters, except for Max's friend, who only harmed himself. Everyone has done something bad or selfish by hurting another, it seems to me realistic in life, and even more so in the post-apoc. Of course, Lucy and Max are still considered "good" on paper, but the situation was forced.
What I didn't like:
1. In terms of locations and plot, we just put all the games together, it seems like I knew that the obvious Megaton from the trailer would not be a Megaton, but a mixture of Megaton and Diamond City, well, it cuts the eye straight, unless it's some kind of alt. The universe can roll. Another escape from the Shelter and the search for his father. Another cryofreezing of people from the past. Another Cleaner (the energy chip was activated at the end) Another Wedding. Now there will be another New Vegas campaign. I think you can still list it for a long time, in short, where is something new?
2. Is the brotherhood some kind of cult with monks? I'm glad that assholes, the canon is true here.
lits
lits
12 Apr 01:52 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: The brotherhood has always been a cult with asshole monks, from the 1st part. I jumped up when Maximus in the 4th Volte called Volt a sect - who would say that))
Megaton is the east coast, and here is the west coast, LA, in the Santa Monica area.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
12 Apr 17:02 # Show original
@lits: About the moment when Max called Volt a sect, I also laughed that the Brotherhood itself is a cult, it is clear, but are monks with a censer not too much? There are also strange addresses like "my Lord", even I don't remember this in games.
I'm aware that the Megaton is not in LA, but you never know, maybe they would somehow have attached it in the form of a flashback or something, so far they haven't even said why, it seems there are several planes there, mb was an airfield or something.
lits
lits
12 Apr 17:50 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: in the first fall there were trials, initiates, paladins, and dudes in purple robes, I don't know about 3-4 falls, I couldn't play it

Few people remember, but the first fall was an allusion to fantasy, only in post-nuclear conditions. From there, zombie ghouls, orcs-super mutants, palladins-brotherhood, etc. And on the game disc there was the first working build of the engine, where everything is just fantasy, in real time, and not step-by-step, the knight runs around the map.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
12 Apr 17:56 # Show original
@lits: Listen, walking in robes and saying prayers with a censer is not the same thing... Dudes in robes should be scribes.
lits
lits
12 Apr 18:22 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: I don't remember censers and prayers. I only remember the bald woman. There are no bald women here (ghouls don't count). Better censers than bald women, as for me)))
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
12 Apr 20:08 # Show original
@lits: But for me, bald women are better, if they are soldiers, even more so than some kind of inappropriate religiosity in the technological community))
lits
lits
12 Apr 22:19 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: no, she was a scribe. Vree Escho.
Dark_Alice
Dark_Alice
14 Apr 13:54 # Show original
@lits: As a result, they made Arcanum.
Seraph6
Seraph6
30 Apr 08:58 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: Thank the Omnissiah, the tech-priests of Mars can't hear you. Otherwise, they would have hit you in the head with censers for disrespecting the Machine God and their technological community. :)))
mbro
mbro
12 Apr 03:29 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: about the megaton - stop demanding from the film adaptation an exact copy of the plot of the game or book. About the brotherhood, they have always been a repulsed cult of fanatics, and those members of the brotherhood who were against were condemned.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
12 Apr 17:07 # Show original
@mbro: I do not require an exact copy of anything, just the opposite, if you read the meaning. There is no need to cross a Megaton with Diamond City in order to make a new city.
Did the Brotherhood always have some kind of RCP priests with censers? Well ok. It is known that they are a cult, I mean religious rituals, they are a technological-military cult, not a religious-medieval one.
mbro
mbro
12 Apr 19:12 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: well, the screenwriter crossed and crossed, that's not a fuck. Is the spirit of fallout still there? Stayed. I don't understand the claims "I would like the plot to be different", or "so I decided that the fallout canon is like this". You imagined in your head how you would like to see a film adaptation, and then you are surprised that the director and screenwriter see the story differently. His right.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
12 Apr 20:14 # Show original
@mbro: If I'm writing, then I don't give a fuck. At such moments, for me, the spirit of Fallout disappears and kringe appears. I have not decided anything, I proceed from what was shown in the games, and if I could somehow close my eyes to addressing the knights as "my Lord", then I cannot ignore the inappropriate religiosity of the Brotherhood. You don't have to tell me that I imagined how I wanted to see the film adaptation, because there was no such thing. This is exactly what the screenwriter imagined and sees the Brotherhood differently than it was shown in the games. His right to improvise, my right to criticize this improvisation.
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Apr 20:22 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: plus, sound criticism is needed, I even wondered why they were shown like that. In my opinion, it was laid down in the original source, but it was never directly presented like this. Here, in general, the main line is that all factions are a bit of a sect, each of which has its own idea (= faith) in how to save the world. These are religious postulates, at their core. But they really twisted a little bit here.

But in general, this elder (the dude from Mr.Robot) obviously refers to both the outcasts from F3 and Father Elijah from NV. That is, even within a faction that wants to save the world by condom technology, every time it splits into sub-factions that have their own opinion on how to use technology
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
12 Apr 20:52 # Show original
@Skyscore: To be honest, I doubt that this is inherent in the original source, of course, it's purely my logic, given that they are a technological science-oriented organization, in the real world it's usually either science or religion. A sect, in the case of Fallout, at least, is not necessarily a religious organization, the same Brotherhood and Enclave can be said to be sects, but their ultimate goal is not related to religion, they are just fanatical in achieving their goals, like religious fanatics. As you said, they have faith, but faith in a vision, not in some kind of deity. Well, just think logically, to whom can an organization like a Brotherhood or an Enclave pray? What about the toaster? :D Seriously, it's hard for me to imagine that they would even pray to some founding father of BS, purely because this religiosity does not fit with BS at all. For example, the refugees from Shady Sands prayed to Moldaver and it was normal for me, apparently she did something for them and in general they are empty ordinary people.
You are right about splitting into factions, but this seems to me to be a separate topic in general, I doubt that any religious faction has been founded here, although theoretically anything can happen, if in the future they somehow justify reasonably why this is so, then please. So far, it just looks very strange and inappropriate.
Skyscore
Skyscore
13 Apr 17:24 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: >A sect, in the case of Fallout, at least, is not necessarily a religious organization, the same Brotherhood and Enclave can be said to be sects, but their ultimate goal is not related to religion, they are just fanatical in achieving their goals, like religious fanatics

I'm wandering around reddit here, I came across a quote from House from New Vegas when he asks to clean up the brotherhood:
"They're terrorist group, basically". Militant, quasi-religious fanatics obsessed with hoarding pre-War technology.
There is also an interesting idea that the Enclave are followers of a political bloc, the Brotherhood is a military organization. The logical development was the radicalization of each of them. Well, the same Caesar, who came out of the followers of the apocalypse and became disillusioned with liberal values, took and muddied the cult with the form of the Romans. That's why it seems realistic to me that the Brotherhood is becoming more dogmatized
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
13 Apr 18:37 # Show original
@Skyscore: In this quote, the prefix "quasi" is important, which means he does not say that they are religious fanatics, but "almost" religious fanatics, i.e., as I said, they are rather fanatical in the accumulation of technology.
And that the Enclave is watered. the block is so canon, they are the pre-war government, as well as the BoS pre-war military)) Radicalization is logical, yes, given the structure of the organizations themselves, and post-apocalyptic times, although again, radicalization does not have to be religious, they have a third Reich or something there. Caesar just took advantage of the situation in his favor, but he was disappointed rather in uneducated savages, by the way, a man wrote to me there above that there was no medieval rollback of technology in Vegas, yeah, that's the whole Legion just consists of people who rolled back to the Middle Ages, or even further, by the way.
That the Brotherhood is becoming more and more radicalized, yes, it is logical that it is becoming religious after all, not for me. Usually people turn to religion when there is no progress, the Brotherhood seems to have everything normal on the technological front, so it would be strange for them to start praying to someone around the campfire with a tambourine, it seems to me.
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
23 Jul 19:30 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: it was still a quote from House, reflecting purely his idea of BS, so it's worth paying attention to how the faction itself is shown in the game and in the series as a whole. And it is shown in different ways. In the same NV, the BS department is in crisis, at the time of their meeting with the Courier, they are only trying to get back on their feet, hence the lack of the same militancy, fanaticism, etc. That's why one of the paladins is putting forward his candidacy for the post of the new elder with rhetoric, they say, stop winding snot on your fist, it's time to stop isolation, go out on a rifle and distribute cradles to everyone, squeezing technology. The former elder Elijah is often mentioned, who was completely crazy and it's scary to imagine what would have happened if he hadn't run away (to the Dead Money addon), but would have remained at the helm.

There, one of the Courier's partners, Veronica (the best girl in New Vegas, by the way) confirms that different departments may have their own policies and they can act autonomously, based on local circumstances and the vision of the elders, citing the same split in the BS on the East Coast as an example. Only the code and ideology remain common, and how to follow them and what methods to rely on already depends on the elders.

In the series, it may well be that the local elder himself is a very religious person, and based on the ideology of BS, he sees his power like this. It does not seem to contradict their postulates, and his vision reflects it.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
23 Jul 22:47 #
@antonsnagovskiy: Это все понятно что локальные особенности неизбежны. Основной вопрос откуда у местного старейшины может быть эта религиозность, потому что в играх классической, т.е. типа христианства, религиозности практически нет. Откуда этот чел мог свою религию вообще взять если Братство изоляционисты грубо говоря, сейчас они конечно где-то начали левых людей принимать, типа как в сериале и показано, но я сомневаюсь что левый там сможет стать старейшиной. Можно предположить что его предки еще со времен Войны тащили релгию по наследству, но это вряд ли будет раскрыто + я сомневаюсь что старейшина может приказать своему отделению быть религиозными, если они изначально такими не были, а если были то об этом скзано не было, и скорее всего не будет, как я уже сказала. В итоге останется тот же вопрос зачем религизную фанатичность натягивать на Братство, когда их одержимости собирать технологии итак хватает чтобы назвать их фанатиками. Т.е. если смотреть со стороны то по сериалу можно подумать что это религия их толкает собирать технологии, а не то, что их "религией" и является собирание технологий, вот почему это режет глаз имо.
Хотелось бы надеяться что это не прям религия, а типа чисто визуал какой-то обрядности ради, но тоже не сильно лучше потому что эта обрядность религиозная в своем начале, что вообще не вяжется с технофилами.
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
23 Jul 23:06 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: or maybe the elder just likes that his authority looks like this, or even expresses his faith in the Brotherhood like this, in an exaggerated form. You never know where he could have picked up all this aesthetics, they also have plenty of information about the pre-war world. Edward Sallow was generally a Follower of the Apocalypse before he became Caesar, although one of his partners, Arkaid Gennon (also a Follower), even mentions that they have the same sources of knowledge, and the interpretations are very different.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
23 Jul 23:26 #
@antonsnagovskiy: Сам старейшина может что угодно делать, хоть с бубном плясать под луной, я не уверена что он остальных может заставить это делать, а похоже что смог в сериале. В этом плане даже не знаю что круче, что остальное Братство резко уверовало вместе с ним или что согласились с эстетикой)) Тот же Цезарь смог заставить, потому что изначально (и с религиозной подоплекой) работал с дикарями, которые там сами его канонизировали практически. Вообще странное сравнение, Цезарь себя не считает Последователем, поэтому это не разные трактовки, он по-сути стал анти-Последователем как раз, не согласившись с их методами в итоге. А источники знаний это типа как и Вы, и я учились в школе, но у нас мировоззрение от этого не становится одинковым по-умолчанию.
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
24 Jul 00:02 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: I think, since the members of the Brotherhood are already predisposed to fanaticism, then they reacted normally to fanaticism at maximum, and how can they contradict the Elder? Maybe they'll have their own Veronica in the second season - I'd look at that.

I don't quite agree about Caesar, because he literally pulls knowledge on his experience and worldview, bringing them to casus belli, which Arkade accuses him of. In short, he interprets it as it suits him, including because all this pretentious rhetoric will lead thousands of uneducated savages after him.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
24 Jul 00:40 #
@antonsnagovskiy: Ну если на это так посмотреть, то действительно, если итак фанатизм присутствует не так сложно и еще присыпать сверху. Думаю перечить то могли бы, типа как в том же конфликте из 3-ки, который Вы упоминали уже, где группа откололась потому что не согласны с тем, что старейшина делает. В чем своя Вероника заключается? В критическом мышлении относительно БС? Тогда это скорее всего Макс будет, мне кажется.
Так простите, а не все ли мы натягиваем знания на свой личный опыт и мировоззрение? Это если грубый пример привести как имея хирургические навыки один может спасать людей, а другой может с высокой точностью артерии резать, являясь каким-нибудь киллером или маньяком. Здесь может быть правильней сказать так, что используя общие архивы знаний Последователей и Цезарь и Аркейд имеют знания о Древнем Риме, но именно Цезарь решил эти знания перенести на практику, т.е. закосплеить свой Древний Рим. Последователи явно не придерживаются понятия casus belli, а как раз наоборот, так что Цезарь и стал анти-Последователем потому, что он лично посчитал что Последователи не правы в своих методах. А если Вы хотите сказать что условно что Цезарь, что Последователи хотят мира, так это вообще почти все фракции, только каждый видит мир и его достижение по-своему. Ну и конечно что он пользуется необразованностью дикарей это факт, только это опять же по-сути любой правитель делает, даже сегодня нам все что-то пытаются политики втереть пафосными речами))
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
24 Jul 01:07 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: You could say that. Different people can go towards the same goals, relying on the same information in different ways. But still, the goal of the Followers does not imply repeating the path of the ancient Romans, they can only preserve and give this knowledge for general development, while this knowledge is perfectly stretched on Caesar's thinking in order to justify their methods later, but people deep in history say that everything is much more interesting there - in short, Caesar himself interprets it incorrectly, focusing only on the most convenient moments and adjusting them to his experience, the reality around him. And it's not just about historical knowledge, but also philosophical knowledge. On this topic, I recently saw a hilarious meme, how the Courier got bombed during a dialogue with Caesar, if intelligence was pumped to 10 and charisma to 0 (link below)) Well, the comments are great, there are many examples of where exactly he is wrong, what exactly he ignores and misinterprets. Remembering what Arkade says about this, it was done on purpose. Well, I immediately thought that he was still a babbler when he rubbed me about the rejection of technology, and there was an autodoc behind my back by the bed, so I returned to the Fort with Boone)
https://www.reddit.com/r/NewVegasMemes/comments/1d8djic/the_courier_gets_angry_and_explains_philosophy/
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
24 Jul 01:58 #
@antonsnagovskiy: Я никогда и не думала/говорила что цель Последователей повторять путь Древнего Рима, у них просто есть информация, книги иили какие там источники на разные темы, включая историю, это именно Цезарь прицепился к ДР, видимо понравился особо, поэтому решил закосплеить. Я честно говоря проблемы не вижу, он делает что хочет, а вот таких людей как Курьер из видео в его окружении и нет, я сильно сомневаюсь что он глубокие речи про тезисы и прочее втирает легионерам или рабам. Опять же не все ли мы фокусируемся на удобном и подгоняем под себя информацию как нам удобно? Конечно не все и всегда так делают, но в целом элементарная логика что если ты прав, то все отлично и можно продолжать, а если не прав, то надо искать решения и прочее. Т.е. в моменте когда он только получил власть над дикарями и не отказался от нее, а принял, понятно что он как-то под себя подогнал зачем это сделал, типа "они сами себе враги из-за своей необразованности и как себя вести по-другому не знают, а я знаю" ну и оттуда же пошли определенные методы, которые он выбрал, какое-нибудь рабство обосновал что "так было в ДР, а они знали что делали" и прочее-прочее. Когда в реальности понятно что власть просто приятна, а рабы проще в обращении чем свободные люди. Видео конечно забавное, комменты тоже щас посмотрю, но в конце концов it just works (c) В том и фишка что у него абсолютная власть и он может делать что хочет.
Он не балабол, а "право имеет")) Если серьезно, то понятно что он лицемерит, но а кто нет то, из тех что у власти? И сделали бы Вы что-то сильно по-другому на его месте? Я не думаю что отказалсь бы от власти данной мне в руки, а по строю и рабству вряд ли бы косплила ДР, но могу предположить что те дикари с которыми он имеет дело по-другому очень плохо понимают, поэтому мб на первых нескольких племенах он еще кому-то что-то объяснял и конвертировал, а потом как мощь армии появилась уже тупо в кандалы и на работу/в армию.
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
24 Jul 03:53 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: in general, it's all about the confirmation bias trap with a pinch of pragmatism)
I.e. yes, I understand what Caesar is doing and why, but the more I delved into their ideology, the more disgusting it seemed to me. No matter how good the goals may be, with such methods, all these carts about crossing the Rubicon and my own Rome do not inspire me in any way, especially since they have managed to shit on even uncaptured territories. There, the settlement of the city is cut out, here it is taken into slavery, there the whole area is infected with radiation. Perhaps someone likes to walk on safe roads when people are crucified on their sides, but personally I prefer other options for saving Mojave, and the Legion only makes it worse for everyone on the way to its goal - that's why I always cut the whole Fort to hell.

Why do I single out NV for myself from the whole series - it allows you to rely on your moral principles to the greatest extent, and sometimes even think about or doubt them. Honestly, at first I was very bribed by the generosity and loyalty of House, they say, well, I'll just give you a presidential suite in Lucky 38 in advance, you get settled here and call all your friends here. In another passage, he was already bribed by his versatility, when I first decided not to go to him at all, but immediately went to the Fort to first find out what was in his bunker, and he was already waiting for me there and knew why I was here + immediately explained how to do better, deceive Caesar and leave from there alive. And then I realized again whose side I was on))

However, in the first playthrough I still chose the NKR and how I liked this double twist, like at first I was disappointed in House when he asked me to cut out the entire local BS branch (how can I look Veronica in the eye after that?), went to work for the seemingly more compliant NKR, and they eventually send I was killed by House himself, and I was like, "Fuck you!". And yet I made a choice in their favor.
[everything didn't fit into one answer, I'll add in the sequels - for the first time I found out that there is a limit of 2000 characters]
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
24 Jul 03:54 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet:
In this way, I got myself a double headcannon. Let me have a male Courier for the NKR, and a female Courier for the House, while their backstories are also different. Do you remember Shelter 11? One of the best stories in the series (I won't spoiler it). So, my Courier would be the only survivor from there, and what happened there would perfectly form the basis of her personality => would be the reason why she basically survived there. In short, she does not wish harm to anyone, but understands that man is a wolf to man and this can be used to advantage. Before meeting with House, she stayed away from all factions, even when they were shooting in front of her - why interfere if you can wait a little and get involved? It's the same for quests. If you can get nice things from both, without directly harming anyone - why not? Well, then it's House with its extremely comfortable conditions and creating the impression of almost the only competent manager in the wastelands, who has pre-war knowledge, a powerful economy, and an army of robots. He may be an autocrat, but in the current conditions there is no better alternative, especially since he does not interfere in the lives of those who work for him until suspicious and potentially dangerous activity arises, as in some casinos on the Strip or like the Brotherhood of Steel... the destruction of which this time was also beneficial to the Courier. Oh, there's such a powerful lesbian drama with Veronica unfolding that even right now, show the writers of the series - they'll tear their hands off.
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
24 Jul 03:55 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet:
In short, it looks like this:
The courier contributed to her separation from the Brotherhood of Steel. She had previously ousted the former Elder, bringing the blockhead Hardin in his place so that Veronica would not have so hard time leaving the Brotherhood. In the end, for Veronica's sake, she achieved the best reputation in the Brotherhood, so that later she would not suspect the Courier of blowing up their bunker. All for the Courier and Veronica to be together, despite the death of all her loved ones. Moreover, she herself likes to live in Lucky 38)

Well, the NKR, unlike the Legion, were still more sympathetic, at least in that it would still be beneficial to keep in touch with them (which House understands, judging by his terms of the surrender of the NKR in the end), so they were released in peace, and even Boone, as it turned out, did not mind.

This raises 2 questions:
1. What will happen to the Vegas economy in season 2 of the series if the NKR is in decline, and they are just the main clients of House
2. What about House himself, i.e. which ending of Vegas was recognized as canon? So far, I'm inclined to believe that his ending was chosen (I'm only in favor, because it's from my favorite passage), but after the events of the game, anything could happen, up to the murder of House by the Courier himself, if he suddenly decided to transfer power to Yes-man (i.e. himself) - then Hank, who went to Vegas, would catch a hard surprise. Well, it's not like the Legion to be reborn again. Although it would be fun to watch it. In short, let's see)
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
24 Jul 05:52 #
@antonsnagovskiy: Для меня что НКР, что Легион не вариант в НВ, теорема Эскобара короче. Легион с излишней брутальностью действует с одной стороны, типа вырезания города и заражения радиацией, а с другой стороны вот эти беззащитные НКРовцы, которых то вырезали всем городом, то отравили)) Так же и при общении, Легион черезчур строги и фанатичны, а НКР все или нытики или распиздяи. Ну и по херовым поступкам НКР тоже не ангелы, Биттер-Спрингс например, потом еще тот ученый который тот стрем из убежища с растениями будет использовать хз для чего.
Поэтому если бы я в том мире жила то ни тех ни тех бы не выбрала. Хаус что для меня лично, что для моих персов очевидный выбор. Меня не интересует экономика, но просто что чел довоенный(!) гений, грубо говоря, потому что насколько я поняла он не просто лицо РобКо, но и сам робототехник, т.е. это прям можно реально инфраструктуру поднимать, будет он ее поднимать или нет это вопрос конечно, но что ни НКР, ни Легион ничего подобного предложить не могут это факт, тот же Цезарь лучший ум Легиона и он даже автодоком пользоваться не умеет, не то, чтобы собрать его с нуля. Плюс Хаус вообще и является причиной почему Вегас стоит, если помните он ракеты сбил своим личным ПВО, так что заслужил я считаю)) В плане личного общения Хаус не слишком приятен, я бы не сказала что меня подкупил чем-то, чисто прагматизм, он в потенциале наиболее ценный союзник.
Понимаю о чем Вы, там вообще ИП на минималках, все всех хотят грохнуть, хотя что забавно Хаус ни Кимбала, ни Цезаря грохнуть не хочет, вот это я понимаю уверенность в себе! Вот Ваш Курьер-женщина это просто мой Курьер, я так всегда играла что и нашим и вашим как можно дольше пока квесты уже не дойдут до точки невозврата))
Ну а что, попробуйте написать в Беседку предложение сценария, думаю после успеха сериала будут только рады еще что-то снять, кто знает ;) Что она по-сути ее семью, как Вероника БС называла емнип, убила в тайне от нее и теперь счастливо живут - достаточно жесткий твист.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
24 Jul 05:52 #
@antonsnagovskiy: Вопросы интересные, самому Хаусу не очень понятно зачем вообще деньги нужны, пока фишку искал еще понятно для найма, а так у него ж роботы есть в принципе. Я тоже думаю что его концовку выбрали, сам Хэнк жирный спойлер, типа к кому еще он там пойдет если Хауса нам напрямую показали в составе того совета который ВолтТек собрали. Ну и что там только Лаки 38 стоит целый. Теоретически конечно может быть что Хэнк вообще никогда не контактировал с Хаусом до того, а только имел инструкции что его можно будет там найти, а по-факту там разгром и Хаус уже того. Вообще было бы даже интересно глянуть, если оказалось что Легион захватил и практически уничтожил Вегас, но только 38 не смогли разрушить, потому что он там особой прочности например, такое вот введение в заблуждение. В любом случае как мне тут уже ранее сказали факт какой-то битвы в которой были секьюритроны и НКР есть исходя из титров, если это они не от Легиона защищались, то жаль, тоже думаю что было бы забавно их экранизацию увидеть.
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Apr 06:59 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: I have a similar experience with you, a fan of the series since 98, when I saw the second foul on the fargus disc at bati's work, the first two passed three times, three and new Vegas five times, four at a time, 76th- I played for five hours.
Interestingly, the collective image of cities, plots and artifacts could well be written down as a plus, as following the spirit of the series, and as a minus (which you did). Or the brotherhood - why is it a minus at all? we just wanted to consider them cool guys for a good cause in the first parts, but it wasn't so obvious there, as lits noted.

Overall, I think Nolan, Joy and Howard DID IT. In general, the creator hardly has more than one or two brilliant ideas on his life path. Howard has had the same approach to game design since the days of Morrowind, from there all these "oblivion with guns ", Nolan and Joy have construction on the way to solving, a kind of wild West world with radiation". And for some reason everyone condemns it, but is it so bad? Especially if the idea evolves (okay, in the case of Howard, you want him to walk faster, but the person is tired, you can understand). Or here's Woody - he shot his 50 films, and everything, in fact, is like "Love and Death " 71. So is Clint, and Ridley, and Bergman, and anyone. We don't really care about a lot of things in life, if you think about it that way.

And here the guys did not set the task to replay the game, but to capture the feeling of the world, recreate it extremely realistically, convey the spirit. I think they did it - I'm sure those unfamiliar with the series will run to steam or console stores (the main thing is not to go beyond 76), and the fans got high from the fanservice (although with such a level of meticulousness it's even blasphemous to call it a fanservice, too filigree work)
mbro
mbro
12 Apr 08:11 # Show original
@Skyscore: Yes, it worked out, you're right. I've also been dreaming about a movie or TV series for about 20 years and I'm not upset today.

We just got stuffed because of the abundance of content. I'm fine, the rest are looking for cons
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
12 Apr 17:41 # Show original
@Skyscore: I wrote down the collective image in the negative with a postscript, i.e. if we knew that this is generally a separate universe, where the same Megaton may not exist at all, then it would be much easier for me to perceive the hybrid that was shown.
About the collective plot, yes, it's more of a minus for me, I wanted something new, by the way, when shooting, it was possible to circumvent game restrictions, such as the number of non-inscriptions per square meter, i.e. it could be a full-scale war or a full-scale city, as they mentioned about Shady Sands that 35k people there it was, but we didn't see more than 50 at a time on the screen. Thanks for adding 2 more POVs, they diluted the plot quite well, that was something new.
About the Brotherhood... Well, everyone misunderstood me. The brotherhood is a cult of assholes = the truth and a plus from me. The brotherhood reads some prayers and walks with censers, and calls the knights "my Lord" = what the fuck and minus from me.
I agree! I also mostly liked what happened in general, there are more complaints, there is more to praise, but the Fall is still an RPG, here I also make a discount, Cooper is closest to my style of play, and thank you that he is, but if only there was Lucy/Max, which is not really mine at all, I would not take my playlist into account when evaluating it in the same way. I'm glad that you didn't lose face after all and made me happy, not upset! It is clear that they tried, and did not do it on the dump. Personally, I didn't expect to replay the game, namely the feeling of the world, it was cool to see things like Shelter and Power Armor in reality. I would say that they created their own spirit, as each part of the series has its own atmosphere, and I consider it a success and even better than if there was a copy of some part. You're right, I hope we don't have FO4 SE/AE waiting for us now after this series?
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Apr 17:48 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: Thanks for the detailed comment! I somehow didn't even notice, but you're right, I don't remember such appeals in games, but in general, my lord is very correlated with the Order of chivalry, palladins, etc., so it fit in, in my opinion, organically.

>>I hope FO4 SE/AE is not waiting for us now after this series?
ahaha, they have already announced a free update for the end of April with the long-awaited 60 signatures on the torrent gene and even a small quest line (something about the enclave), as I understand it, they rolled out a sale for the series.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
12 Apr 18:03 # Show original
@Skyscore: And thank you! :) And it just cut me, for those unfamiliar with the series, I think this will come like clockwork, but they have knights and paladins stupidly replacing ranks like sergeant, colonel and so on, they are not some kind of cosplayers...
Okie Doki, so we are still waiting for SE/ AE :D
Hidji
Hidji
13 Apr 03:33 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: "my lord" it seemed to be in a step-by-step tactic about the Brotherhood of Steel, I played it for a very long time and I don't remember exactly).
Hidji
Hidji
13 Apr 03:36 # Show original
@Skyscore: I agree with every word, especially since expectations were slightly lowered after the Amazonian Rings of Power. And the result eventually surpassed them, which is very pleasing.😄
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
13 Apr 16:22 # Show original
@Hidji: Thank you if it was at least somewhere, now I'm waiting for mentions of the BoS religion))
NeverLoved
NeverLoved
14 Apr 19:24 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet:
>2. Is the brotherhood some kind of cult with monks? I'm glad that assholes, the canon is true here.
Another fallout specialist who has only seen fallout 76. Knights, clerks, paladins, elders and other religious stuff didn't bother you in the games, but do men with censers bother you here?

By the way, I thought that the squires invented the series, but no, there were squires in the games too -- in particular, in the three-piece Maxon was a squire, and then the main military commander, elder and chief of the Pridven (in the four and beyond).
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
14 Apr 19:34 # Show original
@NeverLoved: Wow, man, I didn't play 76 at all, you don't have to come up with it out of the blue. Are knights, clerks, paladins and elders religious in your opinion? It's medieval, feudal, if anything. And then, in the games it was only within the ranks, i.e. I do not remember that they addressed the knights as "my Lord", which they did in the series. And yes, there were no men with censers in the games, and yes, censers are religious, perhaps even Orthodox, I don't remember seeing this in Catholicism / Protestantism, but I'm not religious, so I won't say here in which branches of Christianity it is.
But what you thought that the squires invented the series is just more likely to talk about you as insufficiently feigned, let's say, because yes squires are in games, it was not at all surprising.
AndreyDubrovsky
AndreyDubrovsky
14 Apr 19:37 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: post-up is difficult to beat without cryo, just like intergalactic travel, so this is not another, but rather an alternative way to tie the plot after 200 years. just like the loss of a loved one is the only motivated option to leave a vanilla shelter with amenities. it's hard to imagine how a conditional random decided to walk around Pripyat for a couple of months, only if not for the sake of searching for a missing child
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
14 Apr 19:45 # Show original
@AndreyDubrovsky: How did games up to 4 parts manage without cryo back then? Just as a relative does not have to disappear to leave the Shelter, we recall the same water chip at least. Of course, this is already a separate topic, but I think that it's high time for games to find some other way, and not to leave the Shelter every time, now the places of action are repeated, like there are no more states in America besides Cali, or even more so in other countries. Now we're going back to Nevada.
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
23 Jul 19:50 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet:
>and not to leave the Shelter every time
It's not every time, I remembered Nevada myself)
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
23 Jul 22:51 #
@antonsnagovskiy: ЛОЛ и правда что! В этом плане Вегасу однозначный плюс, хотя реализация не на мой вкус, предыстории никакой, просто игрок в вакууме + все равно комбез вручили, поэтому и забыла наверно)) Жаль Беседка намека не поняла...
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
23 Jul 22:59 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: there is a backstory (and some more!) in the Lonesome Road addon, and it also leads to the events of the main game)
And the previous 3 addons are trampling a narrative path to it, each of which tells its own story. I highly recommend it, in general.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
23 Jul 23:10 #
@antonsnagovskiy: В том то и фишка что минимальную предысторию прилепили уже в ДЛС, т.е. до него то вообще ноль привязки, кроме того что ГГ просто круьер который разово какую-то посылку доставил неудачно. Знаете как говорится "показывай, а не рассказывай", правило написания сюжетов, так вот в тех же 3 и 4 например дали прям прочувствовать себя в мире, в своем локальном доме, с семьей, прежде чем все это отнять, а в НВ ну постфактум расскзали что якобы наш дом где-то был и все. Я правда знаю что есть некоторые кто прям предпочитает вообще чистый лист для персонажа, но я из другого лагеря и в НВ недодали на мой взгляд.
Hidji
Hidji
23 Jul 23:22 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: I may be wrong, but the add-ons came out almost simultaneously with the game itself. I remember that I had a set in the Incentive when buying it.
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
23 Jul 23:25 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: there is already a question of taste + different approaches. Gazebo has always had a strong emphasis on environmental storytelling (I love to say it), and Black Isle/Obsidian has always been more about texts, quests, dialogues. Maybe they thought through the whole story with dls in advance (which may well be, given how they are interconnected with each other and with the main plot), but about the Courier - they clearly wanted to experiment. Maybe they also thought "and what about in the follies we leave the shelter every time" - well, that's it) And in general, the game turned out to be quite experimental for the series, there are already more shades of evil / good, and the opportunity to choose between them already within the framework of the main plot, and a greater bias towards a western. And whether it's good or bad is up to everyone to decide for themselves. For me personally, for all the reasons indicated, this is the best part of the series, and here we are unlikely to convince each other)

Although I myself am also more inclined to the principle of "show, not tell", but it is within the framework of cinema. In games, it is more important to me that the story is interesting, thought out and well presented on its own + does not interfere with the gameplay, and ideally that they work in synergy, which NV also copes with quite well. Starting even with the fact that from the very beginning, no fate of the world depends on you, because for most you are just a nouname corpse without deadlines (only one securitron makes sure that the Courier somehow gets to the Strip) => you have complete freedom of action and decisions. Quite an elegant solution for both gameplay and story, as for me.
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
23 Jul 23:34 # Show original
Oh, well, the same bullet in the head as a good way to forget everything, including your home and how you blew it up yourself, just because you were doing what you had to do. This thought runs like a red thread through the whole Lonesome Road, breaking the 4th wall in addition, as if blaming the player for his actions without second thoughts and the Courier for his passivity. This is also emphasized in the end of the struggle for independence, where a lot goes through the ass, simply because there is no manager from the Courier. But a very cool performer. The lonely road should have prompted him to think about the consequences of his actions, which side and why he chooses. Ironically, Ulysses himself hints to him to overthrow everyone. But he also suggests launching nuclear bombs at the Legion and/or the NKR. Here he can be persuaded, and this is exactly the peak of the Courier's development as a person. Well, that's a cool idea!
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
23 Jul 23:40 # Show original
@Hidji: they were released for a year after the release of the original, and then released the Ultimate Edition sometime in 2011-12.

And, by the way, I no longer remember such precedents for 4 major story addons to come out in such a period of time, besides being so different in gameplay and atmosphere + with stories so closely intertwined, also taxiing to the Courier's backstory and leading up to the events of the main game. Which was developed in a year and a half. Obsidian could once afford to create their own magnum opus in such a time.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
23 Jul 23:55 #
@Hidji: Сейчас посотрела даты, на Вики например написано что сама игра 19 октября, 2010 (США), а ЛР 20 сентября 2011.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
24 Jul 00:17 #
@antonsnagovskiy: Конечно вопрос вкуса, я уже сказала что знаю разбивку на два лагеря, тех кто любит чтобы вообще ничего не было про ГГ известно, и тех, кто предпочитает предысторию. Вот по части именно предысторий тут мне кажется больше наследие именно Фаллаута, а не заслуги Беседки, т.к. у них в Свитках например всегда ГГ зэк без прошлого и чуть ли не созданный кем-то из Богов для той миссии что в игре будет, но само интро возможно их фишка. Поэтому в случае с Фоллом получаем то самое интро, но по-традиции того же Фолла наложенное на предысторию в виде дома и семьи. Думаю что так и есть, касатльно того что Black Isle/Obsidian подумали что хватит уже из Убежищ выходить) По поводу добра/зла тут где смотреть, в квестах/фракциях однозначно больше оттенков, но к примеру злых напарников в НВ вообще нет, все моралфажить будут. Да я вообще не вижу смысла лучшие части выбирать, мне каждая по-своему понравилась, поэтому переубедить Вас в любви к НВ совершенно не пытаюсь :)
А вот что судьбы мира от ГГ не зависят это то, за что я Фолл очень люблю как раз и тут все части такие, даже если есть дедлайн ГГ не решает судьбу всего мира как это часто бывает в РПГ и/или фэнтези, взять те же Свитки опять, ГГ спасает мир. А в Фоллах все так локально и именно что со свободой действий, единственно что НВ как раз весьма линейно структурирован, например в 3 нас на середину карты кидали и иди на все четыре стороны, забавно слушать истории типа "я вообще случайно на отца наткнулся бродя по пустоши", а вот в НВ высторили дорожку по которой мы должны следовать, условно пройти можно, но через касадоров и когтей, которых специально для преграды и поставили в choke-points, чтобы мы шли линейно. Сам сюжет поиска и является этой дорожкой, хотя весьма очевидно что в то скполение небоскребов на горизонте нам и нужно.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
24 Jul 01:02 #
@antonsnagovskiy: Я понимаю о чем Вы с Lonesome Road, но мне ни амнезия не нравится, ни расказанная история где мой перс якобы что-то где-то сделал и кем-то был. Для меня ЛР это чисто зачистка локи и лут, ну и сброс бомб конечно же, с последующей зачисткой еще пары лок. А не, забыла еще про Е-ДЕ там, вот это было светлое пятно, поэтому только сброс бомб)) Мой личный канон что Курьер это Одинокий Странник из тройки, и мод для этого имеется чтобы две игры связать в одну, поэтому в моей игре у него имеется и предыстория, и дом, и семья, а Уиллис просто поехавший сталкер который ему что-то втирает. Самое смешное, что это реально работает, потому что кроме него нас вообще как Курьера никто кроме Бенни и не знает, и тот только на момент расстрела, а все что Уиллис говорит это именно что является словами, плюс он реально поехавший. В 3 было как минимум два персонажа которые знали ГГ и еще несколько которые знали его отца, поэтому тот твист который был в сюжете нельзя просто на чьи-то слова списать, они только еще больше закрепили принадлежность ГГ в столичной пустоши, при этом не повесив на него каких-то грехов и ответственности за то, к чему игрок отношения вообще не имеет. Тут для меня как раз видимо тонкая грань вырисовывается идеальной предыстории, что на ГГ ничего не повесили, ни хорошего, ни плохого, но закрепили в мире путем дома, семьи, друзей.
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
24 Jul 01:15 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: Amazingly, my headcannon is similar - my Courier is also from the East Coast from Shelter 101, but when he realized that there was nothing more to catch there, he borrowed a rotorcraft from BS and flew West to see the real Brotherhood, and in general how people live there. On the one hand, there was not enough fuel and he did not fly a bit, crashing in Nevada, and it is all the more ironic what kind of Brotherhood he met there, but still in search of copper he found gold, namely, that civilization, which he could not even imagine, especially in contrast with the most bombed-out state, Where he comes from. There he settled down, doing the dusty work of a courier, and there he managed to bring it into the Rift... in general, in my headcount, all events are taken into account and fit perfectly into the 4 years of the timeline, that's how it is.

By the way, I did not install that mod, I went through 3 and NV separately and modified it, but there is a mod that allows you to transfer the appearance of your hero from 3 to NV.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
24 Jul 02:18 #
@antonsnagovskiy: Вы меня тоже удивили своим хэдканоном, тем более что любители НВ обычно тройку на дух не переносят)) У меня похожая история с ловить больше нечего, но с БС мой ГГ себя не ассоциировал, так что в моем случае дальше мод выдает завязку, Tale of Two Wastelands называется, если не слышали, или TTW сокращенно, у меня он правда старой версии, щас там что-то поменяться могло с историей, но тогда там где-то на поезд надо было сесть и привет Вегас, ну а потом стандартное интро Вегаса. Где в ДС поезд был не помню, но в Вегасе там где перестрелка Королей с НКР здание, после интро Вегаса можно оттуда обратно в ДС поехать было. Честно не помню была ли какая-то квестовая предпосылка к этому, типа контракта на курьерскую работу, но в любом случае я что-то такое хэдканонню, а по времени вроде как 10 лет проходит между 3 и НВ, но я это или игнорю, потому что прямой связи то нет, кроме даты в ПипБое или типа что 10 лет прошло в тройке на все про все. У моего ГГ сердце осталось в ДС, если оно вообще было конечно хаха Но еще почему люблю эту связку потому что я своих любимых компаньонов типа Джерико и Кловер могу взять, потому что как я уже сказала в НВ плохишей нет :( Я тоже изначально отдельно проходила игры, и ГГ не связывала в хэдканоне, тем более что кажется я с Вегаса начинала, т.к. тройка вылетала, но синдрома утенка не произошло, а потом тот мод увидела ну и теперь это для меня единственно верный способ играть что в 3, что в НВ :D
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Сериальщик732
Сериальщик732
12 Apr 09:23 # Show original
@lits: Well, they did wild experiments on survivors, nonsense too.
AndreyDubrovsky
AndreyDubrovsky
14 Apr 19:43 # Show original
@Сериальщик732: Harsh experiments on people are not only done in movies and games
Сериальщик732
Сериальщик732
19 Apr 13:27 # Show original
@AndreyDubrovsky: When there are a lot of people, it's one thing, when there are tens of thousands left and it's another matter to destroy them
Darth_Rexther
Darth_Rexther
12 Apr 13:49 # Show original
@lits: well, this is a theory, but in general, when you find out that everything was not so simple in the Shelters, it already seems not so crazy.

The market decides
lits
lits
12 Apr 16:00 # Show original
@Darth_Rexther: I know what was in the shelters there, I passed the first part in the year of its release. But it's one thing to experiment on the inhabitants, and another to bomb ourselves so that what?...
gkalian
gkalian
12 Apr 14:49 # Show original
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gkalian
gkalian
12 Apr 20:00 # Show original
@lits: The site's security reacted to my link and deleted the comment, so I'll duplicate it just in case.

There is an opinion (seen on reddit) that the idea of a Volt-Tech dropping bombs came from a cancelled 2000s movie. It was planned even before the release of the second part of the game, and a draft version was written at the same time. In it, the creator (caretaker) of shelter 13 dropped a bomb and provoked a Great War. The full version of the script is online, including in Russian.
AndreyDubrovsky
AndreyDubrovsky
14 Apr 19:47 # Show original
@gkalian: only it does not fit in with the corporate super profits that they allegedly wanted to recapture. the only variation is if they wanted to " advertise" a Fukushima-type bang on some 10k town, and the rest of the countries holding nuclear suitcases did not appreciate the marketing, and then the total fireworks began
gkalian
gkalian
14 Apr 22:30 # Show original
@AndreyDubrovsky: In general, it seems to me that everything just did not go according to Volt Tech's plan, at least because the bombs fell when Coop and his daughter were at a birthday party. Although logically they should have been in the shelter, because Coop's wife was very important to their daughter.
TimLord
TimLord
15 Apr 02:20 # Show original
@gkalian: in the first episode, two men discussed Coop, like how he got to this point, was a star, and now a children's toastmaster, and called him a commie. It was never shown, but it is assumed that he and this bug were discovered, they could have deprived him of a place in the shelter, maybe his wife too.
Citokos
Citokos
15 Apr 09:39 # Show original
@gkalian: ///In general, it seems to me that everything just did not go according to Volt Tech's plan, at least because the bombs fell when Coop and his daughter were at a birthday party. Although logically they should have been in the shelter, because Coop's wife was very important to their daughter.///

Maybe the divorce factor?

At a children's party, it flashed through the conversation that the Cowboy needed to pay alimony. The sinister corporation has embarked on the next stage of its sinister plan. And one of the tops had a child in the wrong place. But, the plan is unstoppable.

No luck. :-(
ppcpc10
ppcpc10
15 Apr 17:22 # Show original
@Citokos: or this top could have been kicked out of the corporation because of the surveillance scandal.
In the second season they will tell)
shillienelder
shillienelder
17 Apr 19:45 #
@gkalian:
что-то у них случилось. на этом празднике обсуждали, что Куп подрабатывает, чтобы алименты платить.
ForcedToWatchTV
ForcedToWatchTV
20 Apr 12:00 # Show original
@AndreyDubrovsky: They were not talking about the flow of money, but about the government
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
23 Jul 19:55 # Show original
@gkalian:
gt; In general, it seems to me that everything just did not go according to Volt Tech's plan, at least because the bombs fell when Coop and his daughter were at a birthday party

This, by the way, is also evidenced by the fact that even Mr. House was literally 1 day late with his chip, i.e. it could have been unexpected for him that the bombs would fall a little earlier
vk629538
vk629538
13 Apr 13:01 # Show original
@lits: It's like the transition of capitalism to communism in a perverse way, there are no contradictions in this sense.
gkalian
gkalian
12 Apr 01:55 # Show original
The overall impression is good, it turned out to be an interesting season, I liked it.

Of the advantages, I am ready to highlight the maximum attention to detail in the world - decorations, various objects, TV commercials, comics - they were very meticulously transferred to the adaptation, it turned out perfectly.
The music for the series was written by Ramin Javadi, but even without him, the series is full of cool compositions, like The Ink Spots – I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire.

Of course, the current state of the NKR and the way Shady Sands was treated were upset. In the morning, of course, I saw the stuffing of people from reddit, that retcon was made, something was canceled, but no. As a result, all the events that happened to the city were explained, saying who did it and why.

Some questions were raised by some computer chips inserted into the series. At the beginning, a machine gun cannot hit the doctor from the Enclave, then the paladin is caught on a hook, then the steam pack instantly heals all wounds. I understand that this may still work in games, but in the series it should be shown a little differently. Well, in the piggy bank of questions - it is not clear how Moldaver lived up to the events of the series, nothing was said about her cryofreezing.

Oh yes, the rejuvenation of McLachlan is some kind of shame, well, similar things have already been done in TV series, why it was done so terribly is not clear.

In general, this is not a film adaptation of any particular part, but it was pulled from a lot of places, as Sweet-Sweet noticed. There's a chip, and a father, and a freeze. Well, some locations are just a hodgepodge of Bethesda games, as if they wanted to please the fans of the games, but come on, it's not critical. As an adaptation of a series of computer games, it turned out quite well.

We are waiting for the second season.
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Apr 07:04 # Show original
@gkalian: I was not upset by what happened to Shady Sands (well, that is, upset as a viewer, but there was no rejection of the plot). And moreover, I believe that the Obsidians are to blame for this, with their role-playing elements and choices. Which of the endings should be considered canon? for Dr. House, the NKR or the Legion?
In general, even if the quests for the NKR took place in New Vegas, it says in plain text that the NKR has become sluggish, mired in corruption, has stopped caring about citizens for real. She, like the Brotherhood, has lost her ideals. And what would be the right plot move in this case? All empires fell, but many revived in a renewed, evolved form.
And here we are shown the "good" NKR sheep fighting for a good goal, the remnants of their former greatness, with this cold fusion core. I think this is a logical development.
Сериальщик732
Сериальщик732
12 Apr 09:26 # Show original
@Skyscore: Yes, Canon House should be the most appropriate choice. The NKR and the legion stand for each other. It is difficult for the player to work out his own character for everyone..and in fact, the player is the same for himself as for House, but the player instead listens to the robot 🤣
gkalian
gkalian
12 Apr 10:17 # Show original
@Skyscore: Well, with the endings, you can do it easier - push events into the future and just present as a fact who now, at the time of the series, won. It's not as difficult as it might seem. It was more difficult for the studio at the time with the finals of Daggerfall.

In general, I agree, the NKR has really become a clumsy and complex machine, it's just that it started well.
Skyscore
Skyscore
13 Apr 23:15 # Show original
@Сериальщик732: if you make house's choice a canon, New Vegas 2 should resemble a bioshock in its plot. After all, House is a classic Howard Hughes or "Atlant" Rand
Skyscore
Skyscore
13 Apr 23:16 # Show original
@gkalian: It is possible to postpone the decision, I do not argue
fluffyevil
fluffyevil
14 Apr 06:10 # Show original
@Skyscore: What difference does it make which ending of HB is considered canon? The NKR is the largest state entity, almost a million people, more than 100 years of history. And they show us that, having hit the capital with ~ 40k, it all just disappeared without a trace. Industry, agriculture, infrastructure, population, armed forces where? At least the leftovers. It was a settled, developed region. In the series, there is a standard garbage dump with the skeletons of WWII cars, as if the bombs fell a week ago, which gazebo likes to show the wasteland.
Todd just took a good chance to erase the long-standing ent from black isle.
Skyscore
Skyscore
14 Apr 06:28 # Show original
@fluffyevil: you are confusing something, not 40k, but about 34k, and there are no figures about a million anywhere. There are 700k forty years before NV, and in NV itself we are already seeing the sunset of the NKR, with ambitions for expansion, and plans to annex Vegas itself, and at the NKR base at the airport, Mccaran Hildern said that "interruptions in grain supplies are waiting for us, in 10-20 years", therefore and he sent us to a shelter with plants to get a vacation (I hope the canonical ending here is not to give him a vacation, because he's an asshole).
Tired of hearing about Todd and the NV he hated, Todd always respected the original dilogy and admitted it more than once. He had great respect for Obsidians, who were not so white and fluffy (the eternal story about the lost prize due to two points on metacritic also filled his teeth)
m45
m45
14 Apr 16:07 # Show original
@Skyscore: the first time I went for NCR, then I thought for a couple of days, went back and went for independent Vegas and made the whole enclave help me.
fluffyevil
fluffyevil
14 Apr 16:26 # Show original
@Skyscore: I can Google numbers, thanks. The question is still different. Where are the traces of the existence of a state with a century-old history besides two billboards?
Skyscore
Skyscore
14 Apr 17:04 # Show original
@fluffyevil: if you can, write correctly right away, what is the problem.. By the way, I don't understand what kind of environment you were waiting for. They showed that the collapse in shady sands happened in '77, that is, the crisis with the capital was even before the bombs were dropped, and somewhere in the 80s, a bomb was dropped. Why did the NKR forces have to stay in the bombed-out region? That would be the stupidity of the developers, not what you write.
In general, arguing with an orthodox quasi-religious organization "Witnesses of the second Coming of Black Isle and Obsidian" is more expensive for yourself. You will add any little thing, well, like the glass outside the shady sands crater is not broken - everything is not canon, the gazebo is a sucker, a hack. A cold head should also be turned on sometimes
fluffyevil
fluffyevil
14 Apr 19:45 # Show original
@Skyscore: One more time. After the explosion of one bomb, everything that had been created for a century disappeared from the region, and the standard post-war landscape returned? Are you seriously defending the moment now that no one has cleared the roads leading to the capital from the skeletons of pre-war cars?
Well, since you suddenly enrolled me in a sect, I can't help but ask: how many folds did your tongue count on Todd's anus?
Skyscore
Skyscore
14 Apr 19:52 # Show original
If your mother raised you, I would still argue, but there is no desire to communicate with the toxins
fluffyevil
fluffyevil
14 Apr 21:48 # Show original
@Skyscore: You've gone personal, but yours is untouchable?
Skyscore
Skyscore
14 Apr 22:20 # Show original
@fluffyevil: I didn't even switch to you, let alone to a person. And so I went through the comments of others to understand who I was dealing with, we really have nothing to talk about, even in such a neutral topic as folych
fluffyevil
fluffyevil
15 Apr 00:34 # Show original
@Skyscore:
by the orthodox quasi-religious organization "Witnesses of the Second Coming of Black Isle and Obsidia". That's about where you ran out of arguments and you moved on to discussing me, not the subject of the dispute.
Another soy snowflake, which, being unable to defend its point of view according to the facts, turns to insulting the interlocutor, and, having received a natural response, screams about toxicity. You're ridiculous and pathetic. Oh, I'm sorry. YOU are ridiculous and pathetic :3
Skyscore
Skyscore
15 Apr 03:59 # Show original
@fluffyevil: about the Orthodox - this is a reference to HB and House, about which we dispersed here with Sweet-Sweet, and I did not finish this, but began an argument with Drundel on the fourth series (a much more reasoned argument, by the way).
There are many ways to get personal:
- if I were an arrogant schmuck, I would go to your page, look at the ratings for your series and say "you're too flat a guy, what can I argue about?". But I didn't get personal, and I just say: when, in the terminology of Kinopoisk, there is 0% closeness of interests (except for wiretapping, and who doesn't like wiretapping?), constructive dialogue is possible only with mutual respect, and there is no smell
of it here - if I were one of my kents, with whom we have been hanging out since the beginning of the noughties on (according to the level of toxicity of which you would be just the most obnoxious toots from kindergarten), they would go to your comments and say "you are typical like an ordinary dumb thrush", well, or just "suck it*Ca, friend". But what's the point? We're on the Internet, anyone can send it anywhere. This is not a personal dispute, where for a passage about the anus you can grab a fucking shovel;
- if I were, as you say, a soy liberal, I would say that you are a scanty quilted jacket, violating other people's borders, but characters like you, this only provokes
- at the very least, I would make a joke in response about the leasing services of your imaginary girl (imaginary - with a hint of incest, of course, with the show-off that quilted jackets are usually offended by life, and are looking for the realization of their greatness with turns "once again", "learn history", "it's clear, another soyboy / liberaha" and so on, but for some reason they still don't give them, and there are no real friends nearby), but I don't know, maybe you are already married and with children, all such a respected cupcake and just I like to get fucked up when someone is wrong on the Internet.;;
Skyscore
Skyscore
15 Apr 04:00 # Show original
In other words, you've crossed the line a little bit. And I went into your comments and saw a pattern, a classic self-denying discourse. But I can't wax a piece of wax on the bottom step of the Graham pyramid for the sake of winning a random boor on the Internet - I won't have a defender from this anymore, but for God's sake, try, grow. You can put a bold dot on something very offensive even - I'm not sorry.
Skyscore
Skyscore
15 Apr 04:01 # Show original
I will not answer you, but I will tell you what they read and may have the same question:
- maybe it was not obvious, but I attacked not the personality, but the idea: fans of the original dilogy are biased - they were fascinated by the depth of the study of the world, having cemented the image of the world in their head. This image couldn't help but develop. So, for example, the sunset of the NKR was outlined in the unreleased Van Buren- it's not the amateur showrunners and Howard. The ending for House in NV is most likely canonical (which is a shame - he's an asshole)
, they don't tell us ANYWHERE how many people and at what level of development the NKR (not shadisands) was before the bombing. We don't even know if all 30-odd thousand residents from this sign were destroyed by an explosion - they could have fallen off, it's just a sign. Stagnation has set in since the heyday in fallout 2, then the state of the center on vestkost is little known to us, what scattered cars and traces of agriculture, damn, farming should remain there - an open question. Of course, it would be desirable for showrunners to reveal this or at least not show it incorrectly in the second season, but so far there are no contradictions
- even if the creators made a mistake and got it wrong (which, again, is not confirmed by anything), I believe that the issue with the remnants of the empire and the mandatory showing of this in the episode where we saw Shady sands is far away not central to lore. And in general, any such argument individually does not prove the stupidity of anyone, it only proves an error. With a critical mass of errors, reliability is violated, this was not the case here. Armed with this logic, you can calculate so many percentages for both the second foul and New Vegas, even if it's a disproportionate ratio of people (since we don't care about the restrictions in film production on props, why should we care about the limitations of the engines on which the games are made? It's unbelievable!)
Skyscore
Skyscore
15 Apr 04:01 # Show original
"I'm not idealizing Howard's team, Black Isle, or the Obsidians. These are communities of talented people who are burning with their idea and have made great games. There are many pros and cons to each of these games. Each team made critical mistakes. But Howard's purchase of the franchise saved her and gave her a second chance. Not perfect. I, in an attempt to avoid confirmational bias arguments confirming my correctness, like to watch videos of "bethesda never understand fallout" or "Fallout dialogue comparison (Bethesda vs Obsidian)" - it's stupid to deny that there are no problems. It's stupid to idealize Todd. But still, if you try to fantasize what the third foul would be without the gazebo, I personally feel sad. This is if we judge, again, by Wasteland 2 or Pillars of Eternity, and try to imagine the completed Van Buren in the 15th year (or whenever they scraped it together) on one of these engines. Todd gave the series popularity, popular love, transferred it to modern (at that time!) equipment, revived it visually, gave the world volume (literally and figuratively). I remember the joy with which I went through the original dilogy in 05, but the sadness, because the future was depressing, and how I tried to get my classmates hooked on the series, but even then it was a game for mammoths
fluffyevil
fluffyevil
15 Apr 04:49 # Show original
@Skyscore: I'm not even going to read this wall, sorry. But I hope you felt better when you said it all.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
15 Apr 19:31 # Show original
@Skyscore: The funny thing is that I've never seen anyone challenge the superiority of parts 1 and 2 over the subsequent ones. It's like this, maybe there are some who disagree with this, but I haven't seen them. The first two parts are concepts, ideological inspirers, well, just a Fallout in the flesh, so to speak, an ideal. I can understand those who could not continue to play, in full right, I can even understand those who would prefer the series to die on the 2nd part. What I can't understand is the need to constantly talk about it everywhere. I have this in one of the other series of games, I think that they messed up the series, well, I don't just play, the series is dead for me. In the case of Fallout, I understand that 3 and beyond is already "wrong", "cosplay on Fallout" and so on, but I didn't care and I'm personally glad that the series didn't die, everyone can kill the series for themselves, but it's unrealistic to revive the killed series within the individual. Accordingly, I also think it is very strange that someone thought that there was at least a chance that the series would be conditionally the first Fall, and not the fourth. From what? It's still a product, anyway, no matter how brilliant the first Fall was, you can't sell it anymore, well, without a remaster, that's for sure. If someone goes to the game after the series, then 90% will buy only 4, few people will get to 3 and Vegas, there is nothing to say about 1 and 2 parts.
Skyscore
Skyscore
15 Apr 23:34 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: I add a big plus to everything, about the last point I just need to make a few clarifications: I went to steam charts now, the first foul shows a tenfold increase online by the beginning of the year. This is more than the rest of the series in percentage terms (two, three and four - five times, HB - three times), but in absolute terms, of course, not so:
4 (75k),
NV (20k),
3 (6k),
1 (2.5K),
2 (1k).
That is, 96.6% of the total mass of those interested went to the top four. With the caveats that this is online, not sales, and that this is only a PC (there are only four offline parts on the carrentgen). That is, I would absolutely say that 1% of users went to play from the beginning
Skyscore
Skyscore
15 Apr 23:36 # Show original
@Skyscore: the trend, by the way, does not stop, and the number is growing, I think it can still grow for a week
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
15 Apr 23:47 # Show original
@Skyscore: Thanks for the real statistics! Yes, it may still change, even not within a week, but in general for the duration of the "life" of the series. By the way, is everyone who went to 1 new players, maybe someone from the oldfages remembered, became nostalgic and decided to shake the old days? But even if this is real, all new players have expected statistics, I think the overwhelming majority would have gone to 4 anyway, even if they had filmed part 1, and then discontent would have begun that everything was wrong in the game))
Skyscore
Skyscore
15 Apr 23:56 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: in my opinion, most of them are nostalgic owners of old copies.
Another interesting infographic: troika and NV had a peak online in July 15th - before the release of the four, everyone watched the trailer and began to go through both parts. There are values 2 times higher than those that I indicated above, 10k and 30k, respectively.
The deuce has the peak online in its entire history now, and the first one - in the 17th, when it was distributed for free on its twentieth anniversary.
in_vino_veritas
in_vino_veritas
22 Apr 15:19 # Show original
> We don't even know if all 30-odd thousand residents from this sign were destroyed by an explosion - they could have dumped
In general, it is known that some of them definitely fell off. At least according to the series, some of the survivors of Shady Sands are sweetly praying and smearing ashes in the 4th shelter
ngc4319
ngc4319
28 Apr 14:29 # Show original
I've always played goth pirate, I bought a three in steam recently, I wanted to get all sorts of achievements for passing, but it doesn't run on win 11 😭
NeverLoved
NeverLoved
14 Apr 19:27 # Show original
@gkalian: It is not clear how Moldaver lived up to the events of the series, nothing was said about her cryofreezing
But after all, Mr. Twin Peaks to us with scary eyes for-foreshadow-il "oooh-oooh-oooh, she's really no different from me" when the three of them were chatting with Mr.
It seems to me that this series handles its loaded guns too skillfully for them to just drop this line, so we are waiting for the second season.
gkalian
gkalian
17 Apr 21:52 # Show original
@gkalian: I'll answer myself. Here Todd Howard and Jonathan Nolan gave an interview to IGN (I will not attach the links, otherwise the comment will be deleted again). So there they said that the idea to destroy the city came from the writers of the series and Todd was initially very surprised by this idea.

The events of New Vegas are canon (and no one threw anything away), and the inscription on the diagram "The Fall of Shady Sands" means the fall of the city in 2277, not the bomb itself. The bomb fell immediately after the events in New Vegas, the year was not named, but apparently it is 2281-2282 approximately.
myauser
myauser
17 Apr 22:58 # Show original
@gkalian: and the creators of the first games, when they developed Van Buren, wanted to destroy the NKR altogether
gkalian
gkalian
19 Apr 04:21 # Show original
@gkalian: And again, I will answer myself - the series was renewed for a second season (who would doubt it, of course).
lits
lits
12 Apr 02:01 # Show original
This is a very good, really great Fallout 4, 76, for me it's even better than the original 4 and 76, but it's no Fallout.
As if Blade Runner (1982) was filmed by Disney.
mamkerink
mamkerink
12 Apr 02:25 # Show original
Cool! Yes, it's cool!!
Todd's hand is noticeable, of course, but it even helped. For a fan of the franchise, it's fucking awesome. I read on the Internet that some smart guys thought that Vegas was deleted from the canon, but actually chronologically the series after it and F4 is already underway. It's just that apparently it wasn't Mr. House who won the battle for Hoover Dam (WHO WAS SHOWN HERE DURING HIS LIFETIME AND THIS!!!!!! WOW)

The densest 9/10. I just didn't have enough mutants, the super mutant was only shown a corpse in a piece, the Claws were teased only with a skull at the very end. I hope they will rehabilitate themselves in the second season.

We live in a great time, video game adaptations are amazing and cool. Old Uwe Ball must be in complete shock.
mamkerink
mamkerink
12 Apr 02:27 # Show original
@mamkerink: WELL, THE THEME OF THE ENCLAVE IS UNDISCLOSED. I understand that President Eden on the Capital Wasteland has been destroyed for 20 years, but still! Well, the Brotherhood was exposed as outright degenerates. Not to say that they are straight handsome, but right now the border has completely blurred.
Сериальщик732
Сериальщик732
12 Apr 09:31 # Show original
@mamkerink: I don't know what kind of brotherhood of steel there was in 1-2 parts. In 3, they are kind-hearted, but they are apostates there, those who are outcasts and trash collectors. Vegas endings, she's banal looters, robbers endings if they're alive, I'm not talking about the psycho Elijah at all. At 4, they look like technofascists with their Fuhrer. So , naturally , they are not particularly here .
m45
m45
14 Apr 16:08 # Show original
@mamkerink: So wait, they're hiding everywhere just in the Vegas area, you can still open up there.
mbro
mbro
12 Apr 03:30 # Show original
@mamkerink: And Vegas is definitely canon, am I off topic?
Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Apr 07:05 # Show original
@mbro: canon, even if you look at the screensaver of the last series, there is exactly the same design from the game, and I did not find any special contradictions to the events of NV
mbro
mbro
12 Apr 07:50 # Show original
@Skyscore: I mean, the game universe - tactics clearly does not count, f1, 2, 3, 4 count, well, Vegas apparently too - that's what I wanted to clarify
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
12 Apr 20:43 # Show original
@mbro: I'll be squeaking if they can somehow weave the Obsidian ent, judging by the last frame, it's waiting for us in the second season
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
12 Apr 20:43 # Show original
@mamkerink: Yes, I also noticed this mustachioed man at the council and was blown away
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
23 Jul 20:16 # Show original
@mamkerink:
gt; It's just that apparently it wasn't Mr. House who won the battle for Hoover Dam

So on the contrary, apparently
karlaila
karlaila
PRO
12 Apr 03:37 # Show original
The Amazons have officially washed their all-round rings of power for me!

Straight fire, a lot of references, a lot of canon, gun battle scenes, rocket plot, the ending promises no less epic ties for the second season. Well, they can, when they want to!
mbro
mbro
12 Apr 03:40 # Show original
@karlaila: So they couldn't, it's just that the audience is stuffy
Dark_Alice
Dark_Alice
14 Apr 13:58 # Show original
@mbro: agree. The rings are normal, if you look at them as an independent work, and not endlessly compare them with the original or the films of Jackson, who could not, but took the Hobbit.
mynameisbang
mynameisbang
15 Apr 02:18 # Show original
@Dark_Alice: rings are just time to lose without interest and without any meaning.
mbro
mbro
17 Apr 04:14 # Show original
@Dark_Alice: well, we look at it with pleasure, and they compare everything with the original and play it up to the canon.

In general, I really love the claims "they were shot wrong!", which is very popular now.

Take, for example, the three-body theory book - so someone doesn't like the Chinese version, someone doesn't like the Netflix version, others shout both options are shit, not like in the book.

Well, don't look at what to do. The market probably has little to lose from the stifling condemnation.
mbro
mbro
12 Apr 07:49 # Show original
As much as I liked the whole series, I didn't like the ending that much. Empty and uninteresting. Just as in Westworld Ed Harris was always going back and forth with clever arguments, so here the ghoul was walking around and always pushing things like that. Shame, may the director's fans forgive me.
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
13 Apr 01:30 # Show original
@mbro: So this is the season finale, not the series. You might think that all the first seasons of the series end with something epic. It's a good ending here with a start for the second season.
lits
lits
13 Apr 02:30 # Show original
@mbro: The modern fallout is an endless story, so it's strange to expect something intelligible from it.
Only the first part had some kind of completeness, but it was very different from the current Arbor universe - there the dead world was finally dying, turning into something completely obscene, and the protagonist partially stopped this obscene, and it did not end well for him. And then there will be people, ghouls, brotherhood, then more super mutants will be brought in, maybe if you're lucky, everything will boil in an endless cauldron of fucked-up adventures.
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
13 Apr 03:03 # Show original
@lits: hands of death yet
lits
lits
13 Apr 03:04 # Show original
@-TraumfraU-: Floaters, centaurs, and other victims of Fev'a
ilyuka
ilyuka
08 Jul 08:51 # Show original
The Man in Black is better, but otherwise the fallout is that visually, that double narration is much better (so far).
komyn
komyn
12 Apr 10:48 # Show original
I liked it
TheWinnie
TheWinnie
PRO
12 Apr 11:26 # Show original
I expected the worst, I thought it would be straight shit from the trailers.
I was pleasantly surprised, good job.
When is the second season planned there?
P.S. I hope no one gets inspired from corporations and starts building shelters. ))))
NeverLoved
NeverLoved
14 Apr 19:30 # Show original
@TheWinnie: >P.S. I hope no one gets inspired from corporations and starts building shelters. ))))

Amazon already has storage areas all over the world, who knows what's underneath them...
Mango-Gerry
Mango-Gerry
10 May 15:45 # Show original
@NeverLoved: And there in the shelters of Vol-Tech, the experimental subjects receiving the drug V.........
kindofake
kindofake
PRO
12 Apr 11:36 # Show original
after a full review, only one claim remains. few. They gave me a good start. I want to continue, but the second season is too long to wait.
Suni_Takasi
Suni_Takasi
12 Apr 13:25 # Show original
It's a great season, I watched it in one breath. I especially liked that everything was thought out to the smallest detail. From the dialogues of the minor characters to the setting. I'm really looking forward to the second season🙌
Dark_Punk
Dark_Punk
12 Apr 14:19 # Show original
The second game series that came to me, the first one was twisted metal.
I only played the third and new Vegas games when they came out, not that it went down, but the atmosphere of naive fiction of the 50s went down. Here, too, according to the atmosphere, the robot brain is just what you need. The Ghoul line is straight buzz, pure Rory from Doctor Who
amadei
amadei
12 Apr 14:49 # Show original
okie-dokie, that was good!
A strange but compelling mix of thrash and fantasy. I liked that the level of cruelty and madness corresponds to the apocalypse. I looked at it in one breath. The music creates an awesome atmosphere. It's not a masterpiece, but it's very close to it.
ztRav4
ztRav4
12 Apr 16:34 # Show original
As someone who has never played Fallout, the series actually seemed like a bomb, if you know what I mean.
Overall, it's not a bad story, we're waiting for the second season)
GreenHedgehog
GreenHedgehog
PRO
12 Apr 18:49 # Show original
No, actually, I'm not an ardent fan of everything related to foul — but this series, in my opinion, is a direct fierce hit on the topic.

To begin with, how we are introduced to Lucy — like, well, I pumped myself a perk for shooting, took dexterity, but did not gain strength. A Ghoul joke on the topic: "all sorts of shit will distract you on the way." Again, the idiocy of this final brainiac "stand still, I need to enforce the directive! Why it never works." And the scene in shelter 4 where such a... fuck... well... uh... But okay, I've already started a peaceful passage anyway, Soryan. Plus, this doctor with a choice, who exhausted my nerves in the first foul: "well, look, I can put cheap implants for you, or expensive ones," and you're like, no... Well, damn, I don't know what to choose. Well, it will definitely mess up! What to choose. And here this fucker is gorgeous too.

The only downside is that for some reason they did not do how the heroes vacuum the locations, taking cartridges from the corpses and checking all the garbage cans for whatever was there. Well, that's a plus... now this series is canon. What can I do (although the question is on the topic: we still don't know who blew it up first, we were just told that the business wanted to do it, but they never showed what they did)
Draznilla
Draznilla
PRO
13 Apr 13:46 # Show original
@GreenHedgehog: it was in some series, Lucy needs to get out very quickly, and she picks up cartridges from corpses on the way)) Oh, I say, our man😁😁
JTBuzya
JTBuzya
12 Apr 19:17 # Show original
It's a pity that they lost their humor by the end... From the second episode, everything gradually came to naught and slipped into another typical drama about saving dad.
I am glad that the events take place after all the parts, i.e. what the brotherhood will do with infinite energy is at the discretion of the screenwriters and gives free rein to thought, and, also, does not bind to any part of the game.
mbro
mbro
12 Apr 19:20 # Show original
@JTBuzya: they will go to the arkane together with the fan base
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
12 Apr 20:39 # Show original
Despite all the skepticism, I must say that the series came out very good, at least there is not a single episode where the plot specifically sags.
Yes, there are annoying actions of the characters and stupid chewing of the main intrigue at the end, but otherwise everything is fine.

And as for the disadvantages, they all come from the games of the gazebo and the lore rewritten with it.
kingforthesirens
kingforthesirens
12 Apr 21:28 # Show original
It's a good season. Four series were overclocked, four were driven. Overall, I am very pleased that I watched it. I didn't expect anything better, to be honest.
No one caused rejection, interesting questions remained, we will wait for the second season and answers.
sunaro
sunaro
12 Apr 21:56 # Show original
It's a very cool series!! And one more Easter egg - if you call the number 2132582858 in Los Angeles, you can hear the screams of the dungeon dweller.
a_banshee
a_banshee
12 Apr 23:05 # Show original
It was wonderful. Why couldn't the Witcher be treated with the same love? Or, if you throw stones into the Amazon garden, to the Rings of Omnipotence? After all, they can, they can, if they want to!
yan_k_a
yan_k_a
13 Apr 02:31 #
I'm your father, Lucy
Hidji
Hidji
13 Apr 03:44 # Show original
It turned out well. But in addition to the moments mentioned by the commentators above, there were not enough moments in the season of Death Claws and Super Mutants, I really look forward to their appearance in the second season😅
NeverLoved
NeverLoved
14 Apr 19:32 # Show original
@Hidji: in the footage in which there was a clean CJ -- he looked just disgusting, so it's probably good that they didn't show super mutants and claws. This probably takes a little more time/ money.
Hidji
Hidji
14 Apr 19:57 # Show original
@NeverLoved: let Amazon cut off a dozen lambs from their Rings, one horseradish there is a garbage dump 😅
verolom
verolom
13 Apr 05:16 # Show original
I would like to write that it's cool, but still the impressions are mixed. On the one hand, the game was very coolly transferred to the series. On the other hand, they did not make a series, but rather transferred the game with all its conventions and assumptions.
As a fan of the series, who played a bunch of months back in the first parts, I dreamed, of course, of seeing a film adaptation of my favorite universe, but unfortunately I saw the same glamorous post-apocalypse with laughs.
The main disadvantage is that there is not enough pessimism, oppressive post-apocalyptic hopelessness, and the devastation that will follow a nuclear catastrophe. The visual is good, the universe was transferred in great detail, but the atmosphere that is felt during the game is not felt (I am silent even about the second part, it does not smell here). In short, I don't really believe it, although there were good moments in this regard. By the way, the inspection of shelter 32 just reminded me of Foul 2, something like that was in the spirit of the first parts :) But for a rather short moment.
There are very few locations, so despite all the detail shown, they did not actually introduce the post-apocalyptic world itself. With a few exceptions, all secondary characters are as secondary as possible and do not play any role, you immediately forget about them. In fact, they showed the drama of the main storyline, that's all, and the world of the game is much deeper.

In general, I do not regret that I looked, and I expected a worse result, but I cannot say that it is noticeably catchy. However, I will be happy to watch the sequel.
lits
lits
13 Apr 11:19 # Show original
@verolom: The problem is that if you film Fallout properly, it will be a nuclear mix of Dune Villeneuve, Blade Runner, and Terminator Salvation, only even darker and more hopeless. It is unlikely that this will be able to sell.
mako45
mako45
13 Apr 12:36 # Show original
@lits: I would like to see this
verolom
verolom
13 Apr 16:00 # Show original
@lits: Maybe I don't know. I would definitely look at this :)

There is a good (as for me) example of a film adaptation - The Last of Us. Perhaps there is not as much in common with the game as in Foul, I did not have time to play, but the series itself came out atmospheric and exciting. And quite deep, since the locations are well developed there, not only visually, but also in terms of participation in the plot.

In the Foul, almost everything seemed rather superficial. The location is kind of big, but they use literally a couple of scenes in some parts. Except that during the inspection of Shelter 32, there was a slight smell of a second Foul :)
For example, when Coop and Lucy met the ghoul in the hospital, they showed the entrance to the hospital and the room with the ghoul. In the last location (the Observatory), they showed essentially a courtyard from above and a room with essentially all the main characters. Yes, the visual is very good, but there is no sense of volume, complicity, like some kind of sitcom :)

P.S. More action scenes are some kind of Bollywood :)
lits
lits
13 Apr 19:43 # Show original
@verolom: I agree with many things. Well, this is the legacy of the 4th and 76th Follies, you can't go anywhere.
I don't know about Lastofas, I'm not a fan at all, I'll see when / if they make a deepfake with the face of another actress. I watched the first episode, it didn't go far, I shook it further, I got the impression of some kind of studio series a la Sabrina (in terms of budget and quality of semka in the sense), only a post-episode
verolom
verolom
13 Apr 22:26 # Show original
@lits: I got used to the actress after a couple of episodes :)))) The beginning was so-so, but then more or less normal. Not a masterpiece, but still, compared to the Foul, it is somehow more atmospheric and exciting.
lits
lits
13 Apr 23:51 # Show original
@verolom: I couldn't) I understand everything, we don't choose a face, but damn...
ngc4319
ngc4319
28 Apr 14:44 # Show original
Is this last as something not common?😆 It 's generally licked off under a carbon copy. And fallout is just what we love for its atmosphere and laughs
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
13 Apr 11:30 # Show original
I have only a few questions about the season:
1) how did the main training program live up to this time? Was she frozen by wolves? Why would they do that if she was against them? Did you freeze yourself? Whose resources? An enclave? It is still not explained
2) why did she fuck up synthesis? Like, so that everyone has energy? Like bs won't hide, well, bs has captured this generator, who prevents them from blocking everything back now?
3) why was the ghoul looking for a thief, they weren't enemies in the past, she just showed him the truth about his wife. So I also killed two guys to find out where she is.
4) why is there such a strange cult in shelter 3, again, of this formulation? It is clear that she was an important person in the SHS, but still strangely they almost had an orgy there.
5) why did she leave Lucy's mom in such a state? Like I loved her, but why make her suffer? Peek-a-boo?
6) well, last but not least, again regarding this lady, we are kind of told at the end that she is actually good, so why would she and some fierce raiders kill a bunch of peaceful people in Lucy's shelter if she could just as well tell all the locals the truth / just steal the caretaker without blood. Were there raiders or homeless people from the NKR with her, or are they raiders?

In short, this woman is the main one who left the most mysteries behind, died and that's it for now.
SmilePS
SmilePS
13 Apr 13:06 # Show original
@AtomicTroll: The good thing about the fallout is that you can make any nonsense, and it will be canon. There are a lot of illogical psychos on the Wasteland, so this is the norm.

Seriously. The 1-5 question has no answer, I hope that they will explain it to us in the second season.
Regarding the 6th question, there is not even anything to say. Nothing is clear at all. Why did the 32 shelters kill each other? The experiment was connected only with the appointed managers, and not with psychotropic drugs.
Maybe this madam is just evil, and you shouldn't look for morality in her. The fact that at least someone is alive is already good. Yes, figs knows him in general.
AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
13 Apr 13:23 # Show original
@SmilePS: And that's right. That's why I don't like the fourth part. The factions are flat and linear, kill all or kill all. The series has the same problem
SmilePS
SmilePS
13 Apr 13:44 # Show original
@AtomicTroll: This is a popular "grey morality" nowadays. But the screenwriters don't understand how it works. And the result is simply a lack of motivation and meaning.
IIIelKot
IIIelKot
13 Apr 18:52 # Show original
@SmilePS: I think in 32, as in 33, there was a crop failure, probably orchestrated, and in 32 people were fed human flesh without their knowledge, and then they found out and the massacre began. It's not a fact that there was no such thing at 33, just no one found out.
m45
m45
14 Apr 16:11 # Show original
@SmilePS: if you're talking about Nolan, look at how he coped with the gray morality in Person of Interest, it's not the first time for him.
SmilePS
SmilePS
14 Apr 17:08 # Show original
@m45: Of course, Nolan may have influenced the story in some way, but he does not appear in the writers of the Fallout.
SmilePS
SmilePS
14 Apr 17:10 # Show original
@IIIelKot: The fact that they were fed human flesh is most likely so, there were hints of it. But it's still not enough to start killing each other. I think it was not without drugs.
m45
m45
16 Apr 22:36 # Show original
@SmilePS: but he is listed in the producers, which means that he makes edits at any stage.
nclsf87
nclsf87
13 Apr 19:45 # Show original
@AtomicTroll:
2) Well, yes, so that everyone has it. And why should the Brotherhood block it, if there is, like, eternal energy? You don't have to be greedy about it. Although, with that grandfather and his arguments about power...
3) Didn't the Ghoul want to find out from her where his wife was going? He seemed to be saying something like that.
4) Maybe she promised them eternal energy?
5) Probably so that there is proof of Hank's lies. And the feral ghoul seems to lose his mind completely, there is nothing left to suffer.
SpAwN_gUy
SpAwN_gUy
14 Apr 03:25 # Show original
@nclsf87: 3. He asked his father, but he is looking for a wife, yes. And she is most likely frozen in the 31st
4. She, kmk, adopted "mutants" (and the offspring of those crosses in the 4th volte) as normal members of society. I gave fusion the reactor and didn't touch them.. Maybe that's why they orgasm.
skagerrak
skagerrak
14 Apr 20:54 # Show original
@AtomicTroll: on the 6th question, she apparently considered all the inhabitants of 33 stupid npcs, on whose safety nothing depends
DarthNihilus
DarthNihilus
13 Apr 13:43 #
War... war never changes.
drundel
drundel
13 Apr 18:33 # Show original
The squad of the Brotherhood of Steel, who had just broken into the room with a fight, sees a ghoul, and instead of immediately shooting him, (ghoul is abomination as mentioned earlier in the series, the brotherhood does not tolerate any xenos, plus this is a war zone actually) Everyone listens to his rant in unison. The ghoul turns off the lights, and they're like, "I can't see shit!" Hello, you have a flashlight on your helmet! It is in the game, in 4 parts, there are even modifications with night vision. No, we're going to panic and shoot into the dark. And the whole series is full of such stupidity. Everything is OK, the design is cool (well, in terms of matching the game at least), the actors are good, I don't care that the ENT is remade somehow, some events don't fight there, they would be a joke with him. But why is there such a bottom in the script?
Skyscore
Skyscore
13 Apr 18:50 # Show original
@drundel: is this the most important thing that you remember in the end? Yes, my dear, you are a nitpicker. Do you probably love badcomedians too, relish when you find inconsistencies and blunders? There is nothing more banal than a cliche about the stupidity of screenwriters, in my opinion.
It's a great moment! Who cares why they stopped? Maybe he broke their template, stood up outrageously, in a Western way. For the same reason that in movies they run ahead in shootouts, and do not hide in shelters 99% of the time, as in real life
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
13 Apr 18:58 # Show original
@Skyscore: In general, I personally also cringed with a lantern, and this was almost in the first episode, when this Titus and Max went into the cave, like, man, you have a lantern in your helmet, turn it on. And in this series, it really was an out.
But about the ghoul, yes, I think you can believe that they were taken aback by his arrogance and did not react immediately.
drundel
drundel
13 Apr 19:15 # Show original
@Skyscore: Are you following me now on Chi sho's comments?)) Actually, except for the action in the middle, there was nothing else to watch in this series. No, I also remembered the crazy denouement about the fact that vault-tec themselves took America and Shady Sands, with some idiotic motivation of the horse level in the bathroom with cucumbers, even the Lord from the first foul made more sense. Blunders are excusable, but not when the whole plot is based on them. Yes, logic in the script is important to me, and what, is it now condemned? so much so that they even came up with a new word? Perhaps for people who have a range of attention of no more than 15 minutes, it's OK, just look at the picture, do not delve into anything, do not ask questions. Well, there is a lot more content for such people. The stupidity of screenwriters is a cliche precisely because the trend towards stupidity is progressing.
Skyscore
Skyscore
13 Apr 19:15 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: about the cave: to turn on the lantern - to give himself away, for the same reason, he himself, stuffed, did not go first, but let Sancho Panza in his own. Titus was a pussy
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
13 Apr 19:21 # Show original
@Skyscore: Aah, listen, well, perhaps this explains the cave, it's just that he kind of went there with him too, so it seemed strange that he didn't turn it on, but if he wasn't going to go further than the entrance, then yes, it makes sense.
Skyscore
Skyscore
13 Apr 20:10 # Show original
@drundel: gt;Are you stalking me now by chi sho's comments?))

if it bothers you, I won't do it anymore) I just read all the comments on the series, my eye caught on.

>the crazy denouement about the fact that vault-tec themselves took America and Shady Sands
is not true, I repeat, it was never claimed anywhere that Vault-tec bombed America - only had such an intention, and not the fact that he managed to implement it. A bunch of docks in the terminals of the first fouls tells us not only about expos, but also about connections with all major corporations, first of all, RobCo, REPCONN and the government.
about bombing Shady Sands - the NKR is the main political force after the destruction of the enclave, if the goal of Vault-tec is world domination in post-military America, what's wrong with this motivation?
And along the chain - already the blunders that you are talking about do not break the plot, do not contradict the canon.
Skyscore
Skyscore
13 Apr 20:10 # Show original
@drundel:
>The trend towards stupidity is progressing.
this cognitive distortion used to be better. Let's open the list of TV series of the 90s and look at the number of works with a good story. And not just by the number, but by a fraction of the total number. It's insignificant, offhand early Sorkin, Lynch, Simon, in the late 90s - HBO came and distributed it to everyone. Yes, now netflix is chopping content, not art, based on algorithms, with cliffhangers and a liquefied structure, but it essentially lured away all the same productions that created the same consumer goods for broadcast channels.
In the book Amusing ourselves to Death (1985), Neil Postman complains that TV killed a complex narrative structure - they say, at a time when newspapers were the main medium, dialogue and the length of passages in it resembled newspaper columns in structure - it was easy for people to communicate like that because they consumed information so much. Everything was shortened with the advent of the telegraph, and then, with radio and TV, it was generally vulgar and stupid.
Many reviewers say that in the era of Twitter and tiktok, it is more than relevant that people have stopped perceiving the text. Okay, maybe it is, another question is what to do about it? Howl at the moon, how stupid is everyone? Inadequate. To require the creators of multimillion-dollar franchises to make lengthy monologues on plausible backgrounds? For me, it all reminds me of the fight against windmills.

The last thing about the foul show and the writers is imagine that your task is to please fans of isometry, fans of the gazebo, new Vegas, newcomers who have not played in the franchise, not contradict the upcoming fifth part (and Howard misfired them a lot with this) and at the same time make a fresh fascinating story in a vacuum. Does it really seem legitimate to you to use the word "stupidity" in the aspects that you have cited?
drundel
drundel
13 Apr 20:48 # Show original
@Skyscore: No, this is not a cognitive distortion of "it used to be better" and not my senile grumbling. We conducted studies with data from just under a million people with IQ tests from the 70s to the 2010s, which showed that the general intelligence of people is steadily decreasing every generation. It remains to be seen why, and what contribution modern technology has made. Personally, it seems to me that with things like ChatGPT, the dullness will accelerate even more. This is confirmed by the very fact of the popularity of the tick-tock format, and what kind of content is most popular there.
Hidji
Hidji
13 Apr 21:11 # Show original
@drundel: therefore, there is not only a Matrix, where people of the future can visualize binary code from the screen, but also an Idiocracy, where there is also a high-tech future, but in the mass of degenerates who cannot even read). And recent trends are tipping the scales more towards the second type of development😁
Skyscore
Skyscore
13 Apr 21:26 # Show original
@drundel: you talked about the trend towards stupidity in the context of the script and the screenwriters, and I answered you the same thing - how, with the progressive stupidity of the screenwriters, the number of well-written works does not decrease, but increases?

About the study - can I have a name? myshous does not like links, but I have not seen this. I saw a study where IQ decreased in Norway from the 60s to the 90s, based on environmental factors (agenda, as you say), and the general trend to increase IQ from the 70s globally by 0.22 points every year. It is interesting to look at the correlation in the context of developed and developing countries, etc. I would superimpose these graphs on life expectancy, on quality in different countries, on mental health and the level of emotional intelligence (which is no less important and more difficult to measure).

I do not deny the problems - I myself see wild schools completely, in well-off areas, in good clothes, and I think "we were not like that". Now very disturbing videos on YouTube are increasingly appearing from friends in our country, in Europe, and in the USA. Teachers, unlike politicians, who always blame violence in games, look at families and the indifferent attitude of parents, at the infantilism of millennials. The parents who are accused, in turn, throw stones at smartphones and tik-tok (as in the tenth they threw in anime, in the noughties in nickelodeon, in the nineties - in teletubbies, eternal history).

I'm not saying that there is no problem, but the reasons have little to do, in my opinion, with the plastic armor in the fallout series, or with the shiny trinkets. Or in chat gpt, calculator, internet, smartphone and more. It's just that the strategy of grumbling at stupidity doesn't work. Try to show by your example the viability of a reasonable approach to the life of a young growth - this works, but it is not such a trivial task.
Skyscore
Skyscore
13 Apr 21:26 # Show original
@Hidji: cool kinch, I watched it recently too
drundel
drundel
13 Apr 21:59 # Show original
@Skyscore: The negative Flynn Effect: A systematic literature review, for example, you can Google, there is a review of research, some show an increase, some decrease. The conclusions say that most likely the Flynn effect follows a parabola, that is, at first the intelligence of the population grows, reaches a peak and then falls. "with the progressive stupidity of the screenwriters, the number of well-written works does not decrease, but increases" - Firstly, the number of good works can increase in absolute values, while decreasing as a percentage of all works, because more and more content is being produced. Secondly, it is unclear what is considered a good job and by whom. For example, you think this series is a good job, but I don't. Not in terms of the script exactly. The reasons are not related to plastic armor and trinkets, of course not, these are not causes but effects. Why bother with the script, if they already do, and even ask for supplements. And any kind of mind like the same Expanse is not needed by anyone and is closed due to lack of ratings.
verolom
verolom
13 Apr 22:37 # Show original
@Skyscore: "a fresh and fascinating" story is a big word :) It was interesting to me as a fan of Foul, but it was not enough exciting. I do not know how it could be done to please everyone, but the implementation that we have seen is weak in itself.
Skyscore
Skyscore
13 Apr 22:55 # Show original
@drundel: I read the research, there are two reasons called: genetics (parents from a population with a lower IQ tend to transmit a worse IQ) and society (an environment with a low average hospital IQ does not contribute to an increase in IQ in individuals). And although the conclusions themselves are neutral, they can be wrapped up in any direction as arguments. In general, to be honest, I dislike IQ as a concept, it always goes into eugenics, then into discrimination against immigrants, then into banal arrogance on the ground. But okay, even if we talk about the cognitive abilities of society for good purposes, how can the conclusion "IQ drops " be used as an argument about the series dumb?
The script is a multilaterally complex thing that is rewritten ten times (and in such complex projects, I'm sure that much more) It's like an algorithm. I don't see how your criticism of the Fallout will stimulate you to consume more complex content, unfortunately - but I can easily imagine how it will anger and set you against. But okay, something has become very stuffy, I will suffer a dialectical fiasco with the lexeme "I see that we cannot have a smart conversation"))
drundel
drundel
13 Apr 23:51 # Show original
@Skyscore: It became stuffy 10-12 comments ago. What sadness do I have as a viewer, how many times has the script been rewritten if there is a hat on the way out? You got to me yourself, rushed to defend this piece of content from my unfair criticism, as if it turned your milk sour. I thought the question in the root comment of the branch was rhetorical, but if exaggerated, the series is dumb because people get dumb. At the same time, I do not propose to do anything about it. Where did you get the idea that my task is to "stimulate someone to consume more complex content"? I just wrote my opinion about the series on a dedicated page. This opinion will not affect anything or anyone, it will not be read on Amazon and nothing will be corrected, other viewers with exclamations of "Omg! He opened our eyes!" they will not run to imdb to give bad ratings to the series. Those who haven't watched the series yet, especially won't see my opinion, because here are the comments for the season finale. I agree - I put a plus, I disagree - I stuck a minus and went on. If there is something to discuss, you can discuss it, but pour it from empty to empty and for some reason prove to me why I should like what I don't like, of course there is no point and it's better to finish.
Skyscore
Skyscore
13 Apr 23:56 #
Ок👌
rynsk
rynsk
21 Apr 15:09 # Show original
>> A great moment!

Gorgeous in his stupidity?...
Troy
Troy
30 Apr 13:20 # Show original
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felidae
felidae
13 Apr 18:52 # Show original
@drundel: it's just that the ghoul's perception has been pumped in and the perk for the plus sequence has been taken
Skyscore
Skyscore
13 Apr 18:56 # Show original
@felidae: and charisma by 10!
id147425249
id147425249
PRO
13 Apr 20:05 # Show original
Ugh, the second season with Vegas would be faster, after all, it's not just that the new Vegas is considered the best part of the series.
rin_rin
rin_rin
13 Apr 21:35 # Show original
A rather intriguing plot of the series (and, accordingly, a series of games, it would be necessary to check it out), I did not expect that it would take so long! After the film adaptation of The Last of Us, I thought that I would not see anything better, and this plot is straight good, although I will not say that it is better and more interesting for me than TLoU, they certainly differ in many parameters and storytelling lines. The characters are interesting, everyone has their own story and their development is interesting to watch.The only thing that scares is the noseless face of this Ghoul actor, it's just creepy to look at him. He also does this kind of tin with everyone ... Cruelty and bloodlust in this series do not take, but it is understandable in this context. Mankind has a sad story, no matter how you look at it. I'm waiting for season 2, I hope it will be just as exciting and tell you more about the fate of the characters and the world as a whole
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
14 Apr 00:55 # Show original
@Rin_Rin: In my opinion, there is much more meat and tin in games, which is why I personally love them, but I don't know if Cooper shocked you. You can play as a conditional Lucy, of course, but there will be tin around, even stupidly there are some raider or super mutant locations that are all littered with guts and body parts. It is clear that quests with varying degrees of tin are also available. The ghoul here generally only has a nose and differs from a human, they showed others more similar there.
rin_rin
rin_rin
14 Apr 02:55 # Show original
Oh, I see, thank you for warning me about the games, I will know what to prepare myself for before watching (unfortunately, I am more a quiet observer of how others play, I rarely go through anything myself). I am always shocked by the hardness and bloodiness, especially now, when you are literally in the epicenter of the apocalypse🫠But nevertheless, sometimes I take risks and watch horror movies, games, sometimes such an emotional shake-up is sobering. Cooper actually sobered up and reminded what people are like in such conditions of survival;)
-TraumfraU-
-TraumfraU-
14 Apr 13:25 # Show original
@Rin_Rin: I went through Fallout 2 without killing anyone. I mean, no one at all, not even the radscorpions.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
14 Apr 18:05 # Show original
@Rin_Rin: You're welcome) Of course, I would still advise you to play in this case, and not to watch, it's an RPG, playing you can make some other choice than the person you are watching. And it's been difficult to shock me for a long time, and yes, the more shocking content you consume, the higher your tolerance for this in the end, that's why I warned you right away, so to speak, "fear in the unknown", if you know what to expect, then it shouldn't be so shocking anymore. Cooper, imo, this is what at least half of the population would be like in a similar situation, it's easy to reason from the couch that you would never do that...
rin_rin
rin_rin
14 Apr 23:25 # Show original
You are a pacifist, I approve, I used to position myself like that too))and maybe it's really worth playing :)
Skyscore
Skyscore
14 Apr 23:29 # Show original
@Rin_Rin: the question now is which part to start with, and then the third world war can begin in the comments ahahah
rin_rin
rin_rin
14 Apr 23:30 # Show original
Sweet-Sweet, yeah, I understand that it's really better to go through the game than just to watch, but that's how it turns out — I still won't open my downloaded Life is strange and Alice Madness on PC, at least I can crawl to them😂There are also plans for Detroit ... about shock and fear of something-what's scary is that I crossed the threshold of being afraid to watch the works of Yorgos Lanthimos, but so far I've only watched a couple of films, it's still morally hard to watch this, even though it's art🫠About Cooper again, I support))
rin_rin
rin_rin
14 Apr 23:32 # Show original
Skyscore, I'm so old and far from the fandom wars that I just won't tell anyone which one I'll start watching/going through Fallout from
Skyscore
Skyscore
14 Apr 23:38 # Show original
in my opinion, the undeniable advantage of the series is that the average daily online of the entire series has grown. Considering that remakes of ALL parts on the Fallout 4 engine (including even Fallout 76 offline) are currently in development by fans, I think they will now be abandoned in the development process of these remakes. If they all came out, I would probably advise a beginner to start with a remake of 1, 2, 3, HB, and then go through 4.
It is difficult in your right mind to advise an unprepared player today from the start with the original first foul. But they haven't come out yet, alas, and they may waste another couple of years.

Therefore, I would recommend buying on PC 3, NV and 4 (there are sales on steam right now). I would suggest starting with the third one - even if you end up liking new Vegas or the four more, it will be much easier to go like this. Be sure to download the Fallout3 WinXP patch from nexusmods com-7-8-10 Multicore Threading 4GB LAA with 4GB FOSE Setup - otherwise it will be blunted and crash, and enjoy a smooth game with it. By no means play on ps3, this is the most terrible port of both 3 and NV
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
15 Apr 20:43 #
@Rin_Rin: Я бы Alice посмотрела, а в Фолл поиграла, если такой выбор стоит, в Алисе нет ни выбора, ничего, тупо заставки даже посмотреть достаточно для понимания, но тут конечно на вкус) Детройт у меня тоже пылиться на компе хаха Может быть как вариант посмотреть что-нибудь что не искусство, а тупо слэшер или в чем конкретно загвоздка, чтобы терпимость поднять, так потом и искусство уже проще смотреть будет? Рада что на счет Купера понимаете о чем я :)
ngc4319
ngc4319
28 Apr 15:03 # Show original
Tlou didn't contribute anything new at all. In addition, they expanded the line with gays, and it seems to have made the moment with the transfer of the mushroom from person to person a little easier (it's understandable who is interested in looking at solid actors in masks). And everything. I love him too, but it's like watching a game for someone who is afraid of zombies and screamers himself. Only here there is also inevitably one ending
Msconfig
Msconfig
13 Apr 22:48 # Show original
No, well, the rumble is just a crash💘
Alena318
Alena318
13 Apr 23:08 # Show original
Cool series
An interesting plot
I read almost everything as in the game
I sometimes felt Spanish shame for the heroes🤣🤣🤣
DiKEY999
DiKEY999
14 Apr 00:17 # Show original
I really liked the series, I'm waiting for the second season. I didn't understand or missed watching it - and whose head was dragged all season, did he escape from where? Like from an enclave or an institute? And in general, is there an institute in this time period or has it already been destroyed? And it's a pity the synths weren't shown here.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
14 Apr 01:00 #
@DiKEY999: С Анклава. А что у нас канон что Институт уничтожен, чтоли? По-времени как я поняла после всех игр происходит, по-крайней мере после четверки, про 76 хз что там.
Nog
Nog
14 Apr 01:08 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: 76 is only 25 years after the bombs, much earlier than all the other games.
Hidji
Hidji
14 Apr 01:09 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: Chronologically, yes, after all the games of the event. They were in the 70s-80s of the 23rd century, there are already 2296.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
14 Apr 01:10 #
@Nog: Поняла, я просто вообще не то, что в 76 не играла, даже не интересовалась)) Ну значит после 76 тоже тогда получается лол
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
14 Apr 01:11 #
@Hidji: Спасибо за более четкие даты!
Hidji
Hidji
14 Apr 01:05 # Show original
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YuraShestov
YuraShestov
14 Apr 03:21 # Show original
Where is that damn ghoul? I love the Fallout universe so much. I was really looking forward to this series. And after watching it, I was satisfied. Even at the end, an enthusiastic "wow" flashed through my head. I am very glad that we have transferred a lot and conveyed the atmosphere of the games. But there will always be dissatisfied ones, because there are ardent fans of the first Fallout who do not like the second one because there is too much humor there. Someone will be outraged, in their opinion, by too plastic armor. And lemon is too sour for someone. People, such people. And the war. War never changes …
SpAwN_gUy
SpAwN_gUy
14 Apr 03:45 # Show original
It turns out that next season we have: original peep-boy + real peep-boy (girl) + dog 👌👍😂
SpAwN_gUy
SpAwN_gUy
14 Apr 03:46 # Show original
+ real random steel lord pip brother 🤣
SpAwN_gUy
SpAwN_gUy
14 Apr 03:48 # Show original
+ frozen Pip-son (brother, boy)
But it will not be shown until pip-chad (even) or pip-sister find the 31st vault.
Skyscore
Skyscore
14 Apr 17:07 # Show original
@SpAwN_gUy: well, the ghoul is the original walt-boy)
SpAwN_gUy
SpAwN_gUy
15 Apr 02:01 # Show original
@Skyscore: I agree. I made a mistake.

Wherever Pip needs to be written Volt 😔
plalex
plalex
14 Apr 03:51 # Show original
So what's up with the water chip?
ppcpc10
ppcpc10
14 Apr 06:48 # Show original
@plalex: we'll probably find out about this in a year from the second season. I suspect that the grandmother will go back to freeze and send another manager instead of herself, who will have to solve this problem)
fluffyevil
fluffyevil
14 Apr 06:20 #
По итогу, очень бы хотелось узнать мнение Кейна, Боярски, Тейлора, Кэмпбелла и, особенно, Авеллона, на каком органе они вертели Тодда за такое обращение с бережно выписанным ими лором вселенной.
Skyscore
Skyscore
14 Apr 06:50 # Show original
@fluffyevil: I don't know which one yet:
Kane, of. youtube: the first 2 episodes, very praises
Avellon, of. tweeter: so far, he just asks not to spoiler him
, the rest are silent
_Obscene_show
_Obscene_show
PRO
14 Apr 07:55 # Show original
At one time, the game did not attract me much, so I thought that I would watch the series in the background, but then I got stuck!
I looked at it during the day and I don't regret anything)
In some places, it even seemed that the development in the series was so dynamic that I would like it more than "one of us" (Which had a lot of stuffiness. Please don't throw tomatoes 🥲)

The only irritant for me was an absolutely cardboard Maximus with an eternally offended face, it constantly seemed that he was about to cry. I was mad at him all season and in the end I was glad when he seemed to have died. And he's not dead :(

In general, I'm really looking forward to the new season!
ppcpc10
ppcpc10
14 Apr 08:29 # Show original
@_Obscene_show: What kind of game is it? Otherwise, in fallout, each game is very different from the previous one.
The last of us is so miserable and boring that the igrofilm on YouTube looks more interesting. We would have reshot the cut scenes from the game 1 in 1 and it would have been a good series.
The Fallout series is better by all accounts. Still, to remove various illogical stupidity. However, the series here is such that maybe in the second season it will be justified somehow and it doesn't seem to be stupidity anymore.
_Obscene_show
_Obscene_show
PRO
14 Apr 11:43 # Show original
@ppcpc10: honestly, I don't remember exactly, maybe part 4 ... played about 6 years ago on ps4, all my memories) The game may be normal, but it didn't go to me then)
Skyscore
Skyscore
14 Apr 08:53 # Show original
I advise everyone to watch the video on YouTube "The Fallout Show Did't Retcon New Vegas" from TKs-Mantis, where he addresses almost every claim made here
Sorokin_Kirill
Sorokin_Kirill
14 Apr 10:21 # Show original
The series is just a cannon, here you have both folders and corporations, a bunch of fanservice, no annoying agenda, for those who played games - the series will come to you, especially the last shots of this series ;)
ppcpc10
ppcpc10
14 Apr 11:05 # Show original
@Sorokin_Kirill: Well, if only to fans of what the gazebo was doing. Those who are fans from the first foul are unlikely to appreciate this series.
ngc4319
ngc4319
28 Apr 15:12 # Show original
Through the mouth of the nerd gundosit Ilyin
bogdansky9000
bogdansky9000
14 Apr 11:02 # Show original
I laughed with transukha in the ranks of the Brotherhood, thank you. If we take into account their zero tolerance to all kinds of mutants, for example, ghouls, then the presence in their ranks of a biological woman with a mustache and hairy legs, sitting tightly on injections of male hormones, looks, to put it mildly, not very appropriate for Laura :D
HoldenWisdom
HoldenWisdom
17 Apr 01:45 # Show original
I can't understand why you thought she was trans? In the post-apocalypse world, shaving machines are not imported, they live in a hot shower, not knowing why she would look like Lucy?
лавровый
лавровый
17 Apr 04:35 # Show original
@HoldenWisdom: probably because it is, the original had the pronoun they.. It's also unfair that I didn't really catch up with where the trannies came from in the post-shock
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
23 Jul 22:20 # Show original
@HoldenWisdom: Well, there are a lot of girls quite similar to girls in BS knights and paladins games. No one would be surprised if it was the same in the series.
ekdmi
ekdmi
21 Apr 03:23 # Show original
and I just thought in the context that if you live in a "brotherhood" from a conditional childhood and there is only the male sex around, then you will start to feel like a man too, if you want to :')
Hidji
Hidji
21 Apr 04:23 # Show original
@ekdmi: In the Brotherhood, even if you do not take into account the non-canonical Tactics, there were always female characters. They are xenophobes and mutant haters, but they have nothing against women, it seems, if they are really women, and not an additional gender.))).
Citokos
Citokos
21 Apr 10:03 # Show original
@Hidji: /// in the Brotherhood...there were always female characters ///
/// they don't have anything against women, like///

I just wanted to ask you a question. And in the game, the Brotherhood has no celibacy vow. Well, all these religious teachings like that. Fast, read Our Father twenty times and so on.

So there isn't?
Hidji
Hidji
21 Apr 22:08 # Show original
@Citokos: I have no idea. And during my acquaintance with the games of the series, starting with the release of the first part, it did not even occur to me to be interested in such things. What for? There were definitely knights and squires, but such details are unimportant to me, and I'm not sure that they were in the games.
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
23 Jul 22:24 # Show original
@Citokos: as far as I remember, they don't attach any importance to romantic relationships, but they can look askance if they are same-sex, judging by Veronica's memories from NV
bogdansky9000
bogdansky9000
14 Apr 12:03 # Show original
In general, it turned out so-so. As a fan of the series, I initially expected that there would be the same obscenity as fallouts 3-4. I was not disappointed.
1. Dumb dialogues, plot and characters. It's immediately clear that bethesda and Amazon had their hands on the series (the recent guys won't let you lie), so such a low level of quality.
2. About the transukha as part of the Brotherhood of Steel organization, which is extremely intolerant to mutants and all kinds of deviations, I already wrote above, it's still funny.
3. I don't like Rick and Morty, so hearing Jerry's voice in Shelter 4 was like a blade on glass.
4. The very arch of Shelter 4 is absurd and devoid of any meaning - I consider it a filler.
5. Too much retro music and too little ambient. Fallouts 3-4 are similarly overloaded with such music, which, in comparison with f1-2, somewhat spoils the atmosphere. But it never happened to enjoy the talent of Ramin Javadi, really.
6. The character of Goggins is somewhat contradictory and illogical. He is an obvious villain - in particular, he kicked the unfortunate kid off the farm in front of his bati - so his alliance with Lucy at the end looks somehow wrong. Well, it's clear that he was playing some kind of character of his own, and not Fallout's.
7. The escape of Benjamin Linus looked very funny - in the scene with the turret, which could not hit him at point-blank range, they probably wanted to show how well he pumped Dexterity :D
8. The actor playing Maximus, well, no one at all.
9. The choice of equipment for shooting is not very clear - there are a lot of aberrations, blurring at the edges, the picture is not very good. They probably wanted it for the atmosphere, but I didn't appreciate it.
bogdansky9000
bogdansky9000
14 Apr 12:51 # Show original
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Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
14 Apr 18:18 # Show original
@bogdansky9000: 10. Here I give a plus sign. A particularly funny joke is that he fucks chickens, that's just wow...
ppcpc10
ppcpc10
14 Apr 13:07 # Show original
@bogdansky9000:
2. The brotherhood has become, in principle, very strange portrayed. Even if, like, they've already gone into moral decay and everything has fallen down. Some schmucks who can't even afford to make normal toilets. It seems that they are trained to be assistants to paladins, but no one knows what to do and what awaits them.
6. Well, the Ghoul has been looking for a family for 200 years. His wife and daughter are apparently also frozen in some kind of shelter and he wants to find them. Over the years, he has clearly changed a lot and on the way to this goal, it is not necessary for some kid from the farm to take revenge on him and stop him. Lucy is not a competitor to him, you can somehow use it for your own purposes, well, like he got into it like the daughter he is looking for. Like in The last of us, a frostbitten man who calmly kills people right and left eventually gets closer to a girl, because he had a daughter, etc.

I would say that an incomprehensible series has been released. And not as obvious trash and fumes as Twisted Metal. It seems that there are interesting moments with the same 31 shelters. But just for fun they take and add shelter 4. It's impossible to look at it seriously. Well, still, it's a fallout cosplay, like all the themed products of the Gazebo.
With nothing to do, you can look like a Mandalorian.
It could have been much worse, it's quite watchable here. Actually, I put all series 3 on, because it's not really junk, but there's nothing to admire either.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
14 Apr 18:15 # Show original
@bogdansky9000: 6. The villain? Chaotic Neutral rather. The kid was going to attack him himself, what was he supposed to do in your opinion? Knock him out and leave? Why he should be so tense is not clear. The villain would have killed the whole family.
bogdansky9000
bogdansky9000
14 Apr 18:50 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: an unambiguous villain. I went into the dude's house, starting with the capture of his young daughter, and then stupidly hit the youngster in the sternum in front of his folder, provoking the guy to PvP. The ghoul just wanted to fill up the kid, so no sympathy, it's corny. We would like to portray him as more human - we would let him, yes, stun the guy, or with a deft shot knock the gun out of his hand, Ganslinger.
Even the Shrike from the Chronicles of Predatory Cities has more humanity.
Dad is also a vegetable - instead of slapping his son on the head and thereby saving him, he just stood and watched, although, according to the ghoul, he had participated in shootouts with him earlier.
A strange scene, in general, I did not enjoy such character development.
SvoyaVolna
SvoyaVolna
14 Apr 19:01 # Show original
@bogdansky9000: if he had participated in a shootout, he would have been a corpse) he said that his lead was still in it, perhaps hinting at his line of work, and they collect lead bullets and melt them down
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
14 Apr 19:18 # Show original
@bogdansky9000: Entered the house = neutral. The "capture of the daughter" was expressed in the fact that she served him dinner = neutrally. "I hit a young man in the sternum" - a young man who was going to shoot him in the back right at the exit or come with revenge a few years later, Cooper saw it all in him, therefore he "provoked", I think this is stupid self-defense = neutral.
Let's say he stunned him and left, leaving him alive, then what? The kid finds him after a while and shoots him in the back, what kind of character development will this be? Fucked up imo, he's just adapted to the wasteland, kill or be killed, in your version he would choose to be killed. Dad, as I understand it, did not see what Cooper saw, namely that the kid was about to pounce on him, so dad seriously thought that everything was fine.
I think it's a good scene, so imagine that I'm this kid and as you said, this guy fell into the house, told me that he killed his brother. Can I just let my brother's killer walk away? Even if it costs me my life? Here everyone has to answer for themselves, I understand the kid, but the outcome is natural given the situation. He could have kept silent and survived, but would he have been able to live knowing that he acted like a coward and let his brother's killer just walk away? That's why I say that Cooper is not a villain, because after the kid, he could also decide his father and sister, suddenly they would also take revenge or something else, but he did not see this in them, i.e. he did not kill just for the sake of killing.
krivetra
krivetra
05 May 22:51 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: I don't know, in this sense, in the world of fallout, you can knock down anyone you cross paths with, because there is a chance that you will take revenge for something or want to squeeze something, but this distinguishes evil characters from good ones.. In general, I had a fierce flashback from this scene, I remembered the movie "Good, bad, evil" and just getting to know a bad character there was almost one-on-one like that. Maybe the attitude towards evil in the characters has changed over the years, of course
Aeolide
Aeolide
20 Apr 05:20 #
@bogdansky9000: Retro music is awesome. You just have no taste for disliking it 🤣
The juxtaposition of the uppity wholesome "golden age" music over the savage reality of post-apocalypse world provides a much needed contrast
bogdansky9000
bogdansky9000
20 Apr 09:27 # Show original
@Aeolide: my comment is not about that. The video sequence is overloaded with this retro music, as it was in Fallout 3 and Fallout 4. There is no contrast, because with this approach it turns out a moronic mess for old tracks.
Play Fallout 1-2, which, unlike 3 and 4, have the status of " legendary" - you will understand what it is about. There, by the way, retro tracks were played only in the intro and outro, and the rest of the time the atmosphere was pumped up with high-quality ambient.
Сериальщик732
Сериальщик732
14 Apr 12:33 # Show original
For the cameo of House respect
nachtner
nachtner
14 Apr 14:27 # Show original
What a charm, there are so many fans of the Fallout universe in the comments))))

Honestly, I'm thrilled with the first season. Despite very minor flaws or lapses, the creators exceeded all expectations. Respect and gratitude. I'm waiting for the banquet to continue)))
bcm1nt
bcm1nt
14 Apr 17:02 # Show original
"Feo, fuerte y formal"

The season turned out to be great. Characters, costumes, development, graphics - everything is great. There will obviously be a second season, and I'm really looking forward to it. In general, it is rich, beautiful and interesting
AnnaAV
AnnaAV
PRO
14 Apr 18:27 # Show original
I can't say that I'm thrilled, but overall I liked the series, it's interesting and sticky. I liked the atmosphere and the look, the details and the music. The characters, on the whole, are not bad either. I will definitely watch the sequel, I hope that it will be officially extended soon, if it has not been extended yet))
NyanQt3_14
NyanQt3_14
14 Apr 18:53 # Show original
With all my love for HBO projects, but this is the best game adaptation!
I watched with pleasure, the references were pleasing, and they didn't even look mediocre!
There were, of course, various mistakes, but I just forgot them, because I enjoyed the series!
Well, Ramin Javadi is as good as ever!
In the end, I also thought, it's a pity that this is a TV series, I would have played such a story myself! Well, New Vegas at the end is just wow!
And what about the dog???
pinta_vodki
pinta_vodki
16 Apr 00:51 # Show original
@NyanQt3_14: The doggie runs away at the end with a ghoul and Lucy, everything is fine with her =)
UliaChayka
UliaChayka
14 Apr 21:40 # Show original
A great series came out🔥
I didn't play the game, but I waited for a reason, I watched all the episodes during the day and I liked everything)
Devon
Devon
14 Apr 22:03 # Show original
The series came to me. I love intrigues, but there were a lot of them here, it's good that most of them were revealed at the end of the season. But I'm a little disappointed that the main intrigue in the end turned out to be cryo-cameras, I didn't like this idea in the 4th fallout, at least there were no synths
AndreyDubrovsky
AndreyDubrovsky
14 Apr 22:41 # Show original
I expected the worst, but it turned out to be good. In general, I love folk, I skipped the first parts by age, the third is in my heart forever. As the Guardians of the Galaxy game turned out to be a full-fledged igrofilm, so this series turned out to be a filmgame with 95% hits in the details.
I saw very few references: a shepherd dog and a boy in the refrigerator, and a revived volt-boy. Experimental shelters are default, like ghouls, like kernels, ncr and caps. So personally, I didn't have enough plot intersections with games anymore. These hooks would take up 5% of the timekeeping, but at the expense of memories they created a deeper dive.
I didn't like the open landscapes. Of the familiar mutated animals, only cockroaches.
8 episodes, but the season is not much remembered, it seems to be a reference these days, but the common goal of all the minor main characters somehow belittles their importance. Again, wishes: more independence, like in Game of Thrones, when the Snow guards the Wall, the Lanisters have their own worries. And so they are companions with a very poorly developed motivation, well, it is impossible for an hour of ethereal relationships to go a full-fledged path from "I'll kill you " to "come with me", too deliberately.
Here is the same cowboy, damn it, he ran half the film after his head, then after the heroine, if his claim is in the end: "where is my family" - released into the air by her father. Why did he exchange it with two suckers in the market, if in his perception it is the main key and a guide for communication with a person of that era. How, after living 200 years in the wasteland, he does not know where the observatory is located and who lives there, there is also a whole city that the incubator girl found in 2 accounts.
NyanQt3_14
NyanQt3_14
14 Apr 22:47 # Show original
@AndreyDubrovsky: "having lived for 200 years in the wasteland"
after all, his storyline in the series did not begin at all with the fact that he was sitting in a coffin?
Why would he need Lucy to get information from her father? He didn't give him any information with her either, just left her there and ran away.
AndreyDubrovsky
AndreyDubrovsky
15 Apr 14:21 # Show original
@NyanQt3_14: I agree about the coffin, but the fact that he knows all the non-irradiated NPCs reduces his underground captivity to a maximum of several years.
plus, it caused confusion as a woman who drowns for cold fusion, light in all the houses of the wasteland, in fact world peace, shot half of 33 shelters for the sake of capturing the caretaker, who was silent all season, and in the end, without torture and proper motivation, gave out all the passwords in a minute, when in fact they could just take him away a daughter under the resettlement program after marriage.
In general, visual is the least of the problems nowadays, but with the story, script and plot in such a rich world with a lot of loyal fans, they could have done much better
SherLoki
SherLoki
18 Apr 01:43 # Show original
@AndreyDubrovsky: initially, he grabbed Lucy to bring him to the head, but when she broke his medicine by the pond, he had to change his main quest, score on his head and go to the hospital - there was no medicine there; he went to drug addicts, where he had to sell the girl, since the medicine for survival is more important to him than his head or his own There was no family at that moment. He said at the end that he had heard her last name, but it took him a moment to realize that her last name was the last name of the same person from the past; so he did not see any key in it. It was only in the final that the puzzle came together when I saw her and her dad directly.

About the massacre in Volta, she came pretending to be a raider and with a gang of raiders. Perhaps the disguise meant that it was necessary to kill someone, but the raiders - don't get it. Or maybe she just considered the residents useless NPCs who are not important for her story and goals (the lives of several dozen for the lives of many and all that). Otherwise, she would have just come on her own behalf.
AndreyDubrovsky
AndreyDubrovsky
18 Apr 23:16 # Show original
@SherLoki: So what would be the point if he got that head? He needed the bespectacled man alive, to get to meldaver. That is, the zombie's main quest is to find any living body from that era, which eventually began and ended in the last episode, when he bargained for information from a local Sidorovich.
at the same time, meldaver only needed a password from the caretaker, well, in fact, after killing 30 people, she would have cut off his daughter's finger and received all the information, and in the end even this was not required, although the ionizer was in her hands.
In general, I have huge questions about the setting of the plot, personally I do not consider it logical and intriguing. In my understanding, thriller moments are needed here, as in lost, and here there is more Myasilov as a duma, and not development as in folk
DiDendy
DiDendy
PRO
15 Apr 00:41 # Show original
In my opinion, it turned out to be a good film adaptation. I'm waiting for the second season, as there are still questions.
ksander92
ksander92
15 Apr 04:04 # Show original
You know, considering that the series turned out to be fantastically cool, I don't want to write enthusiastic odes to thousands of characters again. Instead, I propose a discussion, which, I am sure, will be interesting to many who have watched the series, namely on the topic "Do you think that 200 years after a nuclear war, humanity will be a handful of "homeless people" living apart from each other and members of various factions united by a common idea (mission), while living in the absence of the comfort familiar to modern man in the atmosphere of a general dump?" Let me give my opinion. It seems to me that all the hardships would have fallen on the first two post-war generations. Somewhere at the end of the life of the second generation, various associations of people (without global ideas, not sectarians, but simply survivors) had already settled down and assumed a real quasi-state form, in which totalitarian regimes would first reign. Two or three more generations of such structures would have been spent in strengthening their orders and arranging their possessions (clearing the territory of debris, building new housing, creating roads, farming, etc.). After 70 years, central energy supply and sanitation would have appeared in individual "states", factories and enterprises would have started working (not necessarily pre-war ones, of course). Already 120 years after the war, a significant part of the planet's territory would have been restored to relative order (of course, with nuances related to radiation, mutations and other features of such a world). And after a couple of decades, the authoritarian authorities would gradually give way (not voluntarily, of course) to the analogues of modern capitalist states (changes, of course, would not come from the "grassroots", but primarily from people who have mastered capital over the past decades. Thus, in 200 years, I think the world would be quite similar to the one we are used to, with some natural and medical features, plus taking into account changes in social relationships. What do you think about this?
Skyscore
Skyscore
15 Apr 04:11 # Show original
@ksander92: Yes, in real life, of course, you are right. But we need this convention for the series, simply because we don't want to lose these retro-apoc-vibes.
ksander92
ksander92
15 Apr 04:23 # Show original
I completely understand. I was rather interested in the above question in the context of post-nuclear worlds in art in general. In all films and TV series, in all books (I can't be familiar with absolutely everything, but usually the picture is as follows), the world after a nuclear war loses its familiar appearance for hundreds or even thousands of years. It seems to me that in real life everything would be restored almost instantly. Perhaps even for the next ten or twenty years after the war. I just wanted to raise a discussion on this topic and listen to different opinions. By the way, if you think about it that way, then a world that has recovered relatively quickly after a nuclear (large-scale) war in the hands of a skillful author can be no less dangerous, because at least in such conditions the existential fear of nuclear weapons subsides and its use becomes commonplace in any military conflicts, of which there are always criminally many.
Aeolide
Aeolide
20 Apr 05:39 #
@ksander92: sounds like you managed to find your own answer... good science fiction tends to look on the negative paths for development so that those stories can serve as a cautionary tale for us not to follow the same path. If you have a nuclear war and everything is peachy a few years after, then why not have one now to "solve" all our problems?
Citokos
Citokos
20 Apr 16:05 # Show original
@Aeolide: ///If you have a nuclear war, and in a few years everything is going like clockwork, then why not start it now to solve all our problems?///

It is a common misconception that a nuclear war is for an hour or two, and then the end of civilization. :-(

But actually, after the exchange of blows, the war will continue further. And it will last for more than one year. :-(
skagerrak
skagerrak
15 Apr 04:33 # Show original
@ksander92: there is always someone at the wheel, and the post-war chaos can be maintained artificially
ksander92
ksander92
15 Apr 04:42 # Show original
I agree that chaos can be maintained artificially, but I do not agree that it can be beneficial for someone inside. Any capitalist power is based on profit. In such societies, big business merges with the government and, through the institution of lobbying, has many levers of control. And if something is not profitable, it is alien to this order. And business does not develop well under the rule of chaos. There should be clear rules of the game for their own and, most importantly, purchasing power. If there is no such thing, then there is no business, which means there is no power.
skagerrak
skagerrak
15 Apr 10:35 # Show original
@ksander92: An office with ambitions like vault-tec may be guided not by paper profits, but by monopoly access to all resources. They may not have sales, since there is no one to trade with, but this will not prevent them from fulfilling some other goals.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
15 Apr 21:06 # Show original
@ksander92: An interesting question! I was also "bums ... in the atmosphere of a general dump" somehow strained for a long time, but then I thought that this could actually be. As far as I remember, it is believed that all these homeless people are descendants of immigrants from Shelters, which seems strange to me, because for the most part we find these Shelters full of corpses, i.e. it seems to me that at best 20 percent of them are really descendants of immigrants who, accordingly, could have education, even specialized, and no access to the technologies. And then what is the main mass? The descendants of those who were simply at a relatively safe distance from the explosion and survived as best they could on foot food, it is logical to assume that, depending on the conditions in which they experienced the explosion, they might not have the opportunity to educate their children, even basic, so conditionally the grandchildren-great-grandchildren of contemporaries of the explosion could already be uneducated savages howling at The moon, like those tribes that Caesar united.
Factions are also realistic, I think, religion or some other general idea is always very relevant in catastrophic times. The enclave there is "we are the power here, we will restore order", the Brotherhood "we will not allow this to happen again", etc. conditionally calming people, giving purpose and hope in a hopeless time.
But regarding perestroika, here I consider two main issues. 1. What are the real consequences of an atomic bomb explosion? I have heard that it is actually not as terrible as we used to think, i.e. that not a hundred or two years should pass, but there are some real figures, almost in a couple of weeks the horror of radiation should pass, and in five years almost everything is as it was almost, there is no quote, I say it needs to be clarified. In short, if radiation has been a critical factor affecting water, food (including yields), the ability to leave the room, and so on for a really long time, then a lot will depend on the degree and time of exposure to this radiation.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
15 Apr 21:07 # Show original
@ksander92: 2. The educational level of the survivors. If there is a doctor/mechanic/engineer in the group, etc., then such people can transfer this knowledge to others and really revive civilization. If they are not there, then you may be lucky to stumble upon a prof. the material will be a person who is able to master it. If we are talking about uneducated savages, then I think the answer is obvious. By the way, do we have any commentators here who could organize electricity, water supply or any other infrastructure in a similar situation? I personally don't. In the best case with a book, even that is not a fact, and this is in the presence of components, which may also not be.
In general, I think it would vary greatly from place to place. The same Enclave had both military and scientists in advance, the Brotherhood had military, perhaps doctors and technicians, too, otherwise in a book, as I understand it. And conditional farmers or accountants are unlikely to have the knowledge to recreate the pre-war infrastructure.
AndreyDubrovsky
AndreyDubrovsky
16 Apr 04:11 # Show original
@ksander92: following the example of asylum 33, even after nuclear power will remain in the hands of the elect, and it is unclear how much they benefit from the development of progress in which new people will receive authority. plus, take into account demographics in peacetime (IRL) and extrapolate it to the radiation landscape, there are only a few children in the game and in the series, so in 200 years I see just total extinction
Nog
Nog
15 Apr 04:17 # Show original
Rewinding the plot back in my mind, I realized that I did not understand something. Residents of 32 have been dead for a couple of years. The neighbors did not contact them during this time, for example. Moldaver wanted to get the code from McLean, for this she used the pipboy of McLean's wife to enter 32, and then, having arranged a pseudo-wedding, attacked 33. We already know everything further.
What I don't understand is is she so damn lucky that the wedding request came at that very moment, or did her subordinates sit in the shelter for a long time and wait for the right moment? And if the second, then what, were they sitting surrounded by devastation and corpses, not even tidying up a little for their own minimal comfort? Or did they just somehow connect to the shelter's communication system, and monitor the messages, and return at the right moment?
If it was explained in the series, then maybe I missed it. Or is it just a plot assumption, and it's not worth going into too much?
ksander92
ksander92
15 Apr 04:30 # Show original
Probably a simple plot assumption.
Skyscore
Skyscore
15 Apr 04:33 # Show original
@Nog: they explained it in a streamlined way, McLean asked Moldaver something in the first episode about the previous Caretaker, from which I concluded that the guys came in, checked the terminal with a request for a wedding (perhaps it was hanging there for a while), changed clothes, prepared minimally and went. - and she told him at the meeting that the caretaker was dead, now she was.

Why she used raiders and not NKR fighters at the same time is another question, no less interesting. Personally, I am concerned about why she, realizing that most, in fact, innocent residents of the shelter (including the daughter of her beloved passion) may be at risk - here, of course, the assumption is being made, and such a fat one
antonsnagovskiy
antonsnagovskiy
23 Jul 22:53 # Show original
@Skyscore:
Why did she use raiders and not NKR fighters at the same time is another question, no less interesting

1. Most likely, the raiders are simply not as sorry as the NKR fighters, especially when they recently lost tens of thousands of people, and Moldaver seems to sympathize with them
2. Even if she had approached them, it is unlikely that they would have agreed to get their hands dirty as easily as the raiders
AndreyDubrovsky
AndreyDubrovsky
15 Apr 14:31 # Show original
@Nog: the question is why they didn't just take their daughter after marriage, because she already wanted to find a boyfriend and take him to another shelter, this was also discussed at the very beginning. "After drinking, they quietly move with her to 32 and blackmail the caretaker through the terminal." But instead, dozens of peaceful people are being killed, whereas this dark-skinned woman is literally a warrior of light in this adaptation. In the end, he seems to be emotionally draining passwords for a couple of seconds at the sight of his daughter, and a minute later he runs away from her without saying hello. there are a lot of illogical plot denouements
Redopera
Redopera
15 Apr 16:41 # Show original
Wow. Mr. House himself!
Somehow McLachlan got to the Strip quickly.
Overall, the season is good.
vmerkalin99
vmerkalin99
15 Apr 17:09 # Show original
War never changes.
I hope it will be at least the same in the future.
And not worse, but this is the end of the story in the middle of a word)
I've been waiting for the series for 10 years to wait a few more years for the new season.
max_vint
max_vint
15 Apr 18:03 # Show original
I didn't understand how Maldaver lived up to the events of the series, otherwise there are no questions.
The appearance of super mutants and the death claw was not enough (but at least his skull was shown)
ekdmi
ekdmi
21 Apr 03:25 # Show original
Maybe she was in the capsule too, just like Lucy's father. but then it's a mystery how she got there, because she wasn't a special supporter of the "regime" to deserve this. or maybe there is some other third way, which will be revealed later
Stolengrad
Stolengrad
PRO
06 May 21:33 # Show original
@ekdmi: As far as I understand, this is a rich woman. Apparently, she bought a place for herself. The principles must somehow be carried through the centuries.
curlywurly
curlywurly
PRO
15 Apr 19:33 # Show original
The season passed very quickly, I liked it. After watching it, all that remains is: I want more!
I admit that I did not play games (only in building a shelter on the phone), I really like the idea, I decided to watch the series here. The episodes were watched in one gulp, so I even said several times "that the series has already ended??".
Questions, of course, remain after watching. Unfortunately, not all the arches were closed. In general, we are waiting for the second season and hope that it will also be interesting.
Lepestok
Lepestok
15 Apr 19:42 # Show original
The series is cool, you can feel the spirit of Fallout. It's just a pity that the creators set back the development of society. I'm talking about NCR. Heck! It was an entire state, America was recovering! And then the herax! As if nothing had happened. And the dead Vegas at the end of this episode? It was a city that had almost completely survived. An island of civilization... Destroyed.
Nevertheless, I cannot but mention the main merit in the development of the lore of the universe. We were finally told why Voltek was conducting these crazy experiments in shelters. Finally, there is logic in this. Of course, some experiments were ridiculous and stupid, and they remained, but nevertheless. And they also showed us who started the war.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
15 Apr 21:11 # Show original
@Lepestok: Oh, at least someone else noticed! I thought it seemed to me that Vegas was destroyed, everyone was like "just like a picture from the game", but I think there were also casinos like Ultra-Luxury and Tops high... If only Lucky 38 is worth it, then House always wins, as I understand it. Plus, Lucy's father probably came to House.
Lepestok
Lepestok
16 Apr 21:09 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: When the credits roll after the episode, animated pictures of the streets of Vegas are shown. There is only destruction, anti-tank hedgehogs, a downed NCR rotorcraft and at some point lifeless automatons are visible. Vegas has fallen, there is no doubt about it.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
16 Apr 21:22 # Show original
@Lepestok: Thanks for telling me, I missed the credits! I'll go see what's in there then.
ekko
ekko
15 Apr 19:59 # Show original
The finale is a bomb. Atomic.
I was waiting for sabzh, but with misgivings. And he eventually exceeded all expectations.
I dearly love all fallouts in my own way, so there was a serious demand from the show. It's all the more surprising that they didn't just give out the best film adaptation of the game in history, but quite a full-fledged sequel to the universe.
The version with a golden "not a billion ", who wants to create a utopia for himself on mortal earth, through a full-fledged reboot of civilization, as well as cultivating ideal slaves for himself (quite an evolutionary path), fits perfectly into our modern realities and popular conspiracy theories.
Yes, and they brought the main arches together beautifully in the final, the pcm arch of Lucy and the Ghoul.
A pleasant and charismatic cast of characters, excellent visual, soundtrack, and a good script from people who definitely love this universe and understand it. Such a level of expertise is incredibly rare for a modern film adaptation, because they are already used to the fact that the showrunner and scribblers do not care about the source material.
Among the minuses are the unfinished arches of the Brotherhood (not counting the personal arch of Marcus himself) and all this cold synthesis movement, which are simply lost against the background of the main plot and serve so far only to bring the characters from point A to point B.

Well, I was a little confused by the fact that they did not show the danger of the wastelands, where various representatives of fauna and humanoids are at every turn in the games. It is clear that all sorts of super mutants and death claws were saved for the future, but they could at least show some kind of radscorpion once or twice. And then the world turned out to be very empty.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
15 Apr 21:14 # Show original
@ekko: About the last paragraph, I agree, I also noticed, but I remember about some other series, the creators said so, that they say there is a game, and here is a series, game conventions like. Well, maybe something between the game and what was shown in the series would be ideal, so there is a life with danger, but it's not like there are twenty raiders at every step)
ekko
ekko
15 Apr 21:20 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: well, in the first episode there were hints that this world is very dangerous. When Lucy went to bed and the radtarakans came running.
Well, or a meeting with Yao Gai.
And then they seemed to forget that in addition to the danger coming from people, there is also a sea of all sorts of hostile animals in the wasteland and survival is not a joke.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
15 Apr 21:29 # Show original
@ekko: Yes, indeed. However, there was also this Gulper and a couple on the bridge, in principle, too, random encounters / enemies can be attributed. I was rather surprised that there was not a single group of raiders (not counting those who captured 32) during the season, more than one was too much for the series, approx. And for living creatures, let's say you need to wander into a cave (yao guy) or into the water (gulper), otherwise I remember how you stupidly go out into the wasteland in a threesome, and there's a robot with Yao guy waving, plus some other mole rat attacks them both, lol some kind))
gkalian
gkalian
15 Apr 21:35 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: This is how the game is supposed to keep interesting, activities should be placed tightly and constantly, so it's not surprising that wasteland games are full of monsters.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
15 Apr 21:56 # Show original
@gkalian: So I do not argue, in the first answer I said that about another series in the game they justified that a different format, so there are no enemies for every square meter as in the game. But I also agree with ekko that the world looked a little empty in the series, so far.
Hidji
Hidji
15 Apr 22:34 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: you can always justify this by saying that there were inhabited places and the former patrimony of the NKR, they reduced the monsters around their capital before the explosion.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
15 Apr 22:43 #
@Hidji: Теоретически да. Только вот в НВ нам насколько помню втирали, что вот у Легиона безопасные дороги без рейдеров и живности, а в НКР опсано ходить. Наверно смотря что там за расстояния, от того мужика которого Люси у дома встретила до Филли было не очень далеко, но вот до Шейди Сэндс какое расстояние я хз.
Hidji
Hidji
15 Apr 22:59 # Show original
@Sweet-Sweet: so it's not worth comparing distances with F3, HB and 4). It's all sooo much too much for better playability in the footsteps of Morrowind and Oblivion (although I remember that in Daggerfall you could walk from city to city for a day, that's where the realism is). But it's actually close. If you evaluate the location of the action by real objects, then at the beginning of the series there were Santa Monica piers and by the end there was a ghoul against the background of the letters HOLLYWOOD, this is about 15 kilometers away. Not the distance at all.
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
15 Apr 23:30 #
@Hidji: Да я понимаю что игровые расстояния сильно ужаты, не знала про Даггерфолл этого, круто! Я в принципе рассуждаю, если расстояния большие, то как я поняла из НВ, на территории НКР небезапасны даже дороги, конечно если там 15 км, как Вы говорите, то думаю нормально что нет врагов на каждом углу. Вот путь Люси с Купером до Вегаса уже должен быть неспокойным, но тут неизвестно покажут ли его нам, может тоже телепорт будет как с ее отцом.
Chip_kate
Chip_kate
15 Apr 22:08 # Show original
To be honest, I still don't understand how Moldaver lived for 200 years. Tell me, who is more intelligent and attentive?
Nog
Nog
15 Apr 22:31 # Show original
@Chip_kate: No explanation was given for this, one can only guess. The most logical option is that she also used a cryocamera, but there is no confirmation of this. As far as we know, all the cryocambers are concentrated in the 31st shelter, and it is unlikely that she was there, but it is possible that pre-war connections allowed her to get one for herself. It's not a fact that it will be discovered.
Another thing that comes to mind is her obvious connection with the 4th shelter, perhaps the scientists there conducted some kind of experiment on her at the very beginning, which saved her from aging, but again this is just a guess.
Darth_NOD
Darth_NOD
16 Apr 02:58 # Show original
@Nog: Cryocambers were not only in 31 shelters, we recall the plot of at least Fallout 4
Nog
Nog
16 Apr 03:04 # Show original
@Darth_NOD: Well, even more so. I didn't go through 3-4 parts, I don't like the conversational style, so I spoke only based on the series.
Chip_kate
Chip_kate
16 Apr 09:09 # Show original
Thanks for the answer, I also had assumptions about the cryocamera 😊
ppcpc10
ppcpc10
16 Apr 10:33 # Show original
@Nog: considering that the ghoul still has to find his wife and daughter, the cryocambers were not in one shelter, but several of them. It would be strange to put all the eggs in one basket. And Dad said she was the same. Maybe they had their own shelter project with a similar theme.
Фаталь
Фаталь
17 Apr 00:40 # Show original
@Chip_kate: It seems that all these elderly and young gentlemen from the past used cryocambers and came out only on significant dates... for some serious business...like blowing up Shady Sands, getting re-elected for a new term and going to sleep, leaving management to subordinates, overseeing the creation of the California Republic as a Moldaver...and so on. They're all from the same pack of elites...they just have different views on the management of the society of the future (remember how they planned there - each shelter is an experiment of one of the corporations, and the world of Fallout is a testing ground for them), and they all use the same technologies in fact.
vadim_1
vadim_1
15 Apr 23:26 # Show original
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vadim_1
vadim_1
15 Apr 23:27 # Show original
I was not the only one who noticed the similarity of Walton Goggins as a Ghoul and Ed Harris as a PMH from the Wild West World, they literally have characters very similar in characters, appearance and manner of communication.

Apparently Nolan and Joy decided to shake the old days, remember their past work, and take a little from the MDZ)) which is even very cool.
AndreyDubrovsky
AndreyDubrovsky
16 Apr 04:18 # Show original
@vadim_1: in the character of an unscrupulous ghoul, he is very good. the best cast hit. Only in the end it's a pity that I got soft
SlimFast
SlimFast
16 Apr 00:18 # Show original
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ЛанаЛэнг
ЛанаЛэнг
16 Apr 02:23 #
@SlimFast: чел, ты всей своей манерой изложения мыслей наглядно демонстрируешь, что в развитии остановился на уровне шестиклассника. Не позорься.
fiery_matsu
fiery_matsu
PRO
16 Apr 01:36 # Show original
It turned out to be a great film adaptation 🔥👏👏
I hope the second season will not take long to wait 🙂
Darth_NOD
Darth_NOD
16 Apr 02:55 # Show original
As a person who has been a fan of Fallout since the first part, and despises everything that the Gazebo has done, it went to me)) Especially respect for canonizing my favorite Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel. I sincerely do not understand why they love New Vegas, apparently, people felt so bad from the trash that the Obsidian craft seemed like genius against its background. But to all of them, as to China, cancer is up to the level of the originals, alas.

Regarding the series itself, of the minuses, I can only note the excessive idiocy of everyone and everything, especially the Brotherhood. Yes, yes, we all know how the games bantered on the same topics, but still not that much. There were also questions about how they showed intelligent ghouls, some of them turned out to be too powerful against the background of their counterparts in the games. And of course it was extremely unpleasant to see what they did to Shady Sands and the NKR =(

Otherwise, it's a great series, I'm really looking forward to the sequel. I really liked the way the scriptwriters are bantering about the current situation in the states - all this naivety of the residents of shelters and kindness to the raiders, a direct comparison with the left agenda and not understanding such people, which many scumbags they protect would do to them if they were left alone

The only thing I'm thinking about now is how all this will affect the further meta-plot of the franchise. I'm afraid Todd has released a genie from a bottle that he can't control, and that can change the ent of the universe much more than he and his Gazebo. But Nolan is still a fan of the franchise, and clearly proved this in the first season with a bunch of Easter eggs for his own, and in general, not with a disregard for the original, so keep your fists
Skyscore
Skyscore
16 Apr 07:09 # Show original
@Darth_NOD: I want to minuscule the first two paragraphs, plus the last ones (the arguments have already been rubbished here, I will not repeat myself), so I will leave them unchanged. Can you tell us more about Tactics, what exactly was woven into the canon? Never played, never liked Jagged Alliance and Commandos
swezzyyy
swezzyyy
16 Apr 09:20 # Show original
Delight
10 NC caps out of 10


I would love to watch a separate series about the ghoul, and his career as a bounty hunter. The top branch turned out to be
Vescero
Vescero
16 Apr 11:23 # Show original
Well, this is a Fallout. It looks like a Fallout, smells the same, tastes the same. Although the actions in the series take place 19 years after the 3rd part of the game, in fact, this is a reinterpreted piece for the audience about the search for a father and clean water \ energy for everyone. Especially if you consider that at the end of the season, the action is transferred to Nieuwegas (according to the chronology of the games) 15 years after the plot of the game, where season 2 will be similar. And if this is the case, then in the third season, maybe 4 parts 9 years after the plot of the game will be shown.
Фаталь
Фаталь
17 Apr 00:32 # Show original
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murhuhn
murhuhn
16 Apr 12:12 #
War, war never changes.
Аж мурашки побежали.
croon
croon
16 Apr 13:55 #
еще хочу
bogdansky9000
bogdansky9000
16 Apr 14:36 # Show original
Of course, it was shot not for fans of the series, but rather for the target audience of the online game Fallout 76, where everything is very superficial, "fun " and quite primitive. If a person played the original fallouts, most likely, the series can be very upsetting.
In general, taking into account the claims voiced above, you can put a solid 6 out of 10 to the series, provided that the viewer is not familiar with the series.
xlbuff
xlbuff
16 Apr 15:25 # Show original
@bogdansky9000: Obviously, the series is strongly inspired by Part 4. Everything is here - from stylistics and humor to directly recreated places from there. It is clear that they aimed at recognizability of the last numbered part.
ZRaoulDuke
ZRaoulDuke
PRO
16 Apr 16:09 # Show original
I don't care about the game that I haven't played and I'm not going to, and the coincidences and differences between the series and the game) The show turned out great, different from that shit. what is being filmed in 90% of cases in recent years, a breath of fresh air, waiting for the second season)

ps. Moten looks and looks like Denzel Washington more than Denzel Washington's son)))
Wefast
Wefast
16 Apr 16:22 # Show original
I haven't played in 1 and 2, and I won't call myself a fan. So I have questions that may have answers.

1. Why didn't everything in this world rot in 2 centuries and how did I understand after several nuclear bombings? All these cars are parked here and there. All sorts of toys, vending machines and stuff? Was there an explanation for this?
2. Why, at the first meeting of the ghoul with the knight, he did not kill him. And in the last one, suddenly remembered the vulnerability in the suit and killed them all there? Even if he really only remembered, there are places on this suit that aren't covered with bulletproof armor anyway. In general, the hero's scenic armor or what was it?
3. As I understand it, the Volt-Tech plan is not canon. And the whole ideology seems to be not capitalism for the sake of capitalism. That is, it is precisely the modern social agenda, judging by what I have read.
In any case, I still did not understand how those smart guys behind closed doors wanted to make money on all this by destroying everything they had acquired, all the comfort around them and all the human resources.

And so the series is cool. I liked the Ghoul from gg, that's really a resident of the post-apocalypse. I have fully adapted. He is consistent in his actions, they are all logical. In the context of the world, he is not a villain at all, almost a hero.
I didn't understand why he hadn't found the entrance to the shelter in 200 years. Over there, the 4th shelter takes over, and there seems to be a connection between the shelters. And the raiders somehow break into shelters. They were recognized in the first episode.

Maximus seemed like some kind of scum to me. He looks like a sociopath who tried to play the role of a knight. His moral compass is at zero. As well as intelligence. The knight's path has passed, now he wants to hang out with Lucy in a shelter wherever.

Lucy is funny. She is still an optimistic humanist, but she has completed a quick course on mastering life on the surface.

Wefast
Wefast
16 Apr 16:22 # Show original
@Wefast: That aunt who is also from the past that everyone knows in the wastelands. In general, she was just dumped with her invention and she harbored a grudge. I didn't see in her actions an attempt to make the world cool. It is quite likely that with the help of this synthesis she wanted to get more power into her own hands. In the beginning, she and her people slaughtered people in the shelter. But apart from the most important thing there, everyone else is not to blame for anything. They are even useful considering their education.
Citokos
Citokos
16 Apr 22:47 # Show original
@Wefast: ///Why didn't he kill the ghoul when he first met the knight?///

It is known where, I saw an interesting comment about this. Quote:

///Well, at that moment he was in a playful mood. The ghoul initially went to the middle of the clearing to troll everyone. And he also played with the little black boy, paying attention that that recruit with a shitty training, and out of a sense of solidarity with the warriors, he might not want to kill him, just interrupted the management of the security forces for 1 poke with a knife. How would it be cooler than shooting at a weak panel. All opponents (counter strike game) indulge in this.///

Please.
SherLoki
SherLoki
18 Apr 02:09 # Show original
@Wefast: "In any case, I still did not understand how those smart guys behind closed doors wanted to make money on all this by destroying everything they had acquired, all the comfort around them and all the human resources."

In the series, they wanted to wipe out most of humanity by raising obedient greenhouse slaves in shelters from generations of cruel experiments (who will survive and undergo unnatural selection in these experiments), so that they can then remain alone in the devastated world, build the world from scratch the way they want it to be, and manage the way they want. "We will wait until time destroys all our enemies and competitors and sit down to rule, and whoever time does not destroy, we will destroy with nooks" - we have expressed this message. They don't need profit, they need power and a world built on their desires and vision. And when the NKR began to raise its head and slowly flourish, it was blown up, too, because they don't need it, so that someone was formed not according to their will and orders. Most likely, as a result, everything did not go exactly according to plan, but still.
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PRO
02 May 17:26 # Show original
@Wefast: @Wefast: "1. Why didn't everything in this world rot in 2 centuries and how did I understand after several nuclear bombings? All these cars are parked here and there. All sorts of toys, vending machines and stuff? Was there an explanation for this?"

In fact, this is one of those blunders that were generated by Fallout 3, when another company bought the rights to the game and made its own project. That is, in the first original games, there is really little left on the surface that is usable. The real valuable loot there logically lay in some kind of bunkers, underground rooms. And then they decided for the player to make more different loot in supermarkets and other buildings, that's how it was traditionally shown in the series.

Although even in the old Fallout 2 it was possible to find a car, find an engine for it, fix it and use it to move around the map faster) Since three-dimensional games no longer have such a big world, they only have hiking. And cars play the role of explosive barrels during battles: if you shoot at them, they explode and can cover opponents.

So it seems to me, looking back at the games, you can borrow a variety of ideas for the sake of effect, as in Fallout, but it will not always be logical from the point of view of realism.
flaxman
flaxman
16 Apr 16:52 # Show original
Surprisingly, it turned out to be a very good series. It is clear that Jonathan and Lisa have studied the issue well and worked out the world very efficiently. Of course, there are a lot of blackheads in places, it would be possible to show it in less detail, but okay. As a result, the score is 9 out of 10 and we are waiting for the continuation. 😎👍🏻
Andrey1555
Andrey1555
16 Apr 18:12 # Show original
It's a wonderful series. I've been a fan of the series since the third part, but I understand roughly what happened there in the first and second. And how well it was possible to transfer the atmosphere of the game, the music and the overall tone to the series.

This is not a simple meager retelling of the game, like the film adaptation of Last of Us, which in my opinion turned out to be quite average. This is a separate work in the universe shared with the games. There is a similar atmosphere, tone, humor, music, locations, but a completely different time and characters. And what amazing characters they are. It was a pleasure to follow their adventures. Perhaps only Maximus upset him, sometimes he did not understand his motivation and actions.

The series perfectly replays many moments from the video game when you have a few minutes of serious drama and horror, and in the next few minutes there is such an absurd and ridiculous situation that you just laugh out loud.

Well, one can't help but say that Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy, whose work I've been following since Person of Interest, were responsible for the series, and everything turned out just fine. A perfectly calibrated picture, an excellent plot that throws twists literally in every episode. The finale is simply made of twists.

In general, for me this is the best adaptation of a video game (Arcane does not count, there is still an animated series), my warmest recommendations to all fans and anyone who wants to watch an interesting series in a very cool setting
bogdansky9000
bogdansky9000
17 Apr 19:37 # Show original
@Andrey1555: that's such a fake and they breed inexperienced viewers to watch, and then they spit in the comments, they say, "What the hell did I watch?" :D
ron1
ron1
03 May 14:04 # Show original
@Andrey1555: "A fan of the series from the third part" - you can not read further.
Barnaby
Barnaby
16 Apr 20:52 # Show original
An excellent series and, undoubtedly, one of the best film adaptations. I am looking forward to the second season with great impatience.
Lepestok
Lepestok
16 Apr 21:17 # Show original
If the Ghoul can so famously deal with guys in power armor, then why was he messing with Maximus in the second series?
To be honest, this Ghoul really pisses me off. Too imbecile. He has endless cartridges for the miracle cannon, one hundred percent accuracy. In complete darkness, it hits the vulnerable points of the power armor. A cold-blooded killer who kills innocent people. I wish him all the bad things.
Although, if you think about it, this is a direct mirror of the characters of the players in Fallout)))
I also note that it is unlikely that the Observatory would have wires capable of withstanding the load necessary to power an entire city. Everything would have burned out to hell.
In general, the last episode is kind of blurry and hurried. There is little certainty
Sweet-Sweet
Sweet-Sweet
16 Apr 21:30 # Show original
@Lepestok: I have two options, either he stupidly did not take him seriously and pranked, or that he only later remembered about the vulnerability of the SB, there was a flashback somewhere in the middle of the plot where he expressed claims to this corporate person.
And the Ghoul pleases me) That this is a player, in terms of skills and leveling 100%, but he had a hell of a lot of years to practice. In general, I give a 99% guarantee that in the end Cooper will be the main favorite of the series, there will be very few people who can't stand him, he is neutral, not a villain, until they showed his more violent side, then he will save someone there or something and they will look at him in a different light.
bogdansky9000
bogdansky9000
17 Apr 19:36 # Show original
@Lepestok: he wanted to have fun with Maximus, apparently - after all, he had been lying in a coffin for so long, and the kid in the armor was clearly a clumsy nubuck. This often happens in online games, when experienced players make fun of an outspoken beginner :D
The fact that the ghoul is a villain and a bastard without principles is indisputable. Even considering his sad story about his family and hundreds of years of wandering, there is still somehow no sympathy and sympathy for him because of his vile deeds.
As for the power grid, it's a fantastic modern-style movie, they don't think about such little things. An entire city with apartments with unserved wiring for 200 years after exposure to nuclear weapons lit up at the click of your fingers :D
I would also like a bigger and more detailed denouement - still not such a deep movie to try to think of something.
gaga_ylala
gaga_ylala
16 Apr 22:51 # Show original
Before you shoot your mother, you could say a few words.
So what if she's a ghoul…

It's kind of cold on Lucy's part.
ngc4319
ngc4319
28 Apr 15:51 # Show original
Most likely, she was in psychological pain. And so many things have happened, and then you see your mother as a half-burned ghoul, and you sympathize with her too. What kind of talk is there
gaga_ylala
gaga_ylala
16 Apr 22:59 # Show original
And in general, there was very little Michael Emerson in the series 🥲
Фаталь
Фаталь
17 Apr 00:27 # Show original
I don't even know how to surpass the final frame...this simply does not exist. New Vegas is certainly the fattest bid for season 2.
Lepestok
Lepestok
17 Apr 08:31 #
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mbro
mbro
17 Apr 10:25 # Show original
@Fatal: It's going to be shit like Westworld and like New Vegas
bogdansky9000
bogdansky9000
17 Apr 08:26 # Show original
I will add to my previous comments.
12. The authors don't care not only about the ENT of the original fallouts (I've already come to terms with this), but also about the ENT of the Besedkovskys. In particular, Shelter 111 from f4 was for testing freezing people in cryocambers for long periods. Here, volt-tech famously freezes its top managers without any tests for hundreds of years. Very logical.
13. Lucina is kind "godmother" Moldaver aka "you look so much like your mother", who kept Lucy's ghoul-mom out of warm feelings, without any questions put Lucy under a radioactive rapist from the Wastelands, who was supposed to after the wedding" immediately kill Lucy.
Moldaver's collaboration, as a representative of the NKR, with wild raiders from the Wastelands also raises questions.
Wow, and I also swore at the character of Goggins, they say, what an illogical one.
Vescero
Vescero
17 Apr 09:47 # Show original
@bogdansky9000: Well, here's a couple of thoughts for you right away. In 111, there was a short-term experiment for half a year to check if everything was fine, so to speak, the last run, while after sending a message to the caretaker 111 that everything went well, Vol-Tech did not contact them anymore because they themselves lay down in the cryocambers at 31 and slept.
And Moldaver didn't come to the shelter to Lucy and she didn't know that she was going to get married, she doesn't keep track of the family tree. She came to her father, who, by the way, if for some reason you have already forgotten Shady Sense, blew up and killed more than 40k people, including women and children, and destroyed everything. No one was going to choose the culprits. By the way, even these same "raiders" stated that the neighboring 32 shelter was not peaceful at all. It can be assumed that top managers had a whole bunker with top guards to carry out all military assignments. Because just saying that they are the smartest will not achieve anything, you also need to pave the way for those who refuse to cooperate. Those who wanted to take revenge on them were through the roof. By the way, this is not to mention the fact that they were called raiders by Lucy, who had never heard of the NKR before and did not even understand varieties at all.
bogdansky9000
bogdansky9000
17 Apr 10:57 # Show original
@Vescero: It's a little far-fetched about 111, but let's see what they tell us about it in season 2.
About Moldaver, they also said that Lucy's mom and the children had left the Shelter, so she was definitely aware of Lucy and her brother in the Shelter and that they were in mortal danger.
The Pro does not understand the raiders - is it probably those peaceful moderate civilized citizens of the NKR who wanted to carry out a humanitarian mission to electrify the city, just staged a peaceful humanitarian bloodbath in the Shelter? Understood, I have no more questions.
Vescero
Vescero
17 Apr 12:52 # Show original
@bogdansky9000: Once again, the Caretaker of Shelter 33 destroyed 40k residents of the NKR along with the city (with a 154-year history, the CAPITAL! NKR). The residents of the NKR, guided by the law of the wastelands, had every right to cut them all out there. What's your logical problem? That the residents of the NKR did not come and say GUYS, LET'S NOT DO THIS MAYBE? Are you sure you're talking about a Fallout?
bogdansky9000
bogdansky9000
17 Apr 19:25 # Show original
@Vescero: And why did the kind aunt keep Lucy's ghoul-mother? Are you sure you watched the series or did you imagine it in your mind? There is literally zero logic.
By the way, judging by what peaceful civilized residents of the NKR capital did in the Shelter at the wedding, and then in the casemates, then Shady Sands is not really a pity - since the same monsters and sadists lived there and in neighboring cities of the NKR. This is if we follow your strange logic and really consider them citizens with broken hearts :D
mbro
mbro
17 Apr 10:24 # Show original
Well, also, when the pussy runs screaming about "this is canon ", "this is not canon ", then you can already start burying right away.
They're not looking, they're looking for cons.

I love the atmosphere, that's what they shoot for. What kind of stuffers are you, aren't you tired of it yourself?

True nuka break fans have filed away, if anything.
Abnormality
Abnormality
17 Apr 14:35 # Show original
As Lucy said:
- All right, then

Of the questions that no one seems to have written yet: if everything is frozen at 31, then who brought such a delightful order to 32 in one night? with:
Lepestok
Lepestok
17 Apr 17:42 # Show original
@Abnormality: And why did everyone die in '32? Have they been given gas there?
myauser
myauser
17 Apr 18:38 # Show original
I don't remember the first Fouls very well, I didn't finish the Third and Fourth, and only New Vegas passed 5-6 times. I won't say that the series is a masterpiece, but it is very, very good.
The Vault-Tec meeting is like a fanservice parade. There is Mr. House, as a timid representative (also joking about the casino), and REPCONN, and references to experiments in shelters, and in general it looks like a fat reference to Dr. Strangelove.
The very idea that corporations had a direct impact on nuclear war is quite in the spirit of the series. In general, I am glad that in the series such an influence was given to Volt-Tech and their pre-war activities.
A couple of small details, like a banner with Sunset Sunsparilla and the code 101097, referring to the release date of the first Folych, also pleased.
Well, a panorama of Vegas and a flight along the Strip in the credits... Goosebumps. And in general, the screensavers and credits in the series are beautifully made, I watched them every time.
Shelter 31.. well, a typical non-control shelter, albeit a bit like 111. Nothing original, but it was interesting to follow them.
Cooper is the pearl of the series, a very charismatic Ghoul, I hope they will pay even more attention to him in the second season.
Why there is a branch about the Brotherhood in the series is not very clear to me, but the Gazebo loves them, so I'm not surprised.
I liked the series as a whole, the expectations were much lower. I will be waiting for the second season.

P.S. I've read a lot of negative reviews and therefore I don't understand why people still expect the Gazebo to be a clear follower of the canon of the first games. After three, four and 76, I can't believe it at all
myauser
myauser
17 Apr 19:57 # Show original
It turns out that the dude from Big MT at the meeting is Frederick Sinclair, and Big MT is a Big Mountain

It's great that you haven't forgotten about the Vegas ticket
Sheldon4446
Sheldon4446
17 Apr 23:06 # Show original
An extremely controversial series. The main disadvantage of the series is the script. Then they throw you well-written characters (except Maximus, his line is a nightmare), then the screenwriters start writing complete nonsense, which is hard to believe. Yes, it is clear that they really tried to work on the series. The atmosphere, the music and the picture are on top, except that the Brotherhood's armor looks very ridiculous. The stories of Howard (no, not Todd Howard) and Lucy are well written, they are interesting to watch + Howard's flashbacks were interesting to watch, but in the end the character does not go anywhere, fortunately Lucy was treated wisely. The denouement itself is quite good, but the disclosure of the Vault-Tec plan is right in the spirit of the worst ideas of the Gazebo. The series, by the way, focuses very much on the Gazebo games, and not on the first two parts, which were radically different from what they started doing with the third part (New Vegas does not count). And if a person who has not played games tries to figure out the factions through the series, then he will not succeed at all, because apart from the Brotherhood of Steel, which are represented in a somewhat strange way, no other faction has received even a minimum of disclosure. Once again, to tell the story that we need to find our father. And then they tell us that there is a problem with the water chip in the Shelter (the beginning of the first part of the game), and then they just forget about it.
I can't call the series uniquely good, but there are things in it that I liked. I hope that in the second season the writers will approach their work more competently.
myauser
myauser
17 Apr 23:39 # Show original
@Sheldon4446: and Cooper has nowhere to develop. He's an accomplished character with a two-hundred-year background.
There were hints of the Vault-Tec conspiracy in previous games.
verolom
verolom
19 Apr 00:50 # Show original
@Sheldon4446: I didn't like the fact that the series came out quite shallow anymore. There is no deep study of the characters, no study of the locations (everything is generally bad with them in this regard), the plot is also some kind of fake. The setting worked well, no doubt, but even with that it didn't catch on. It's like watching a fan video.
Sheldon4446
Sheldon4446
19 Apr 01:19 # Show original
@verolom: Yes, I agree.
Gremory
Gremory
18 Apr 04:08 # Show original
Topchik! I'm waiting for season 2. It went much better than that boring Lastoface at the time.
Naviga-ToR
Naviga-ToR
PRO
18 Apr 09:40 # Show original
Without unnecessary words - TV series chic👍
gorinovanton
gorinovanton
18 Apr 15:32 # Show original
Lately, this is a really good series that you can watch at a time!!!
Garet
Garet
18 Apr 18:03 # Show original
I watched it, well, who liked the gazebo - it will come in. Bright, glamorous in tiktok style. But those who love Vegas or the first two parts are strictly forbidden to watch, because the ass will burn from what has now been made a canon.
verolom
verolom
19 Apr 00:47 # Show original
@Garet: It didn't burn down :) But when the last episode ended, I realized that I didn't really want to continue this.
Garet
Garet
19 Apr 12:46 # Show original
@verolom: so you don't like the original parts and Vegas, because in this series the events of these games, as well as their message, were simply shoveled over, and the rest was cut out.
palebluedot1990
palebluedot1990
18 Apr 22:50 # Show original
Lucy, Why do you need Maximus when you have a hum? Come to your senses)
АлександрБакалов
АлександрБакалов
18 Apr 23:47 # Show original
I saw a curious moment here. Sorry that this is not the topic of the series, but the number of players who play Fallout 4 (20 thousand online) \ Fallout New Vegas (5 thousand) has increased 5 times over the last year, compared to the last year in general, according to statistics from Steam, because of the series. It's funny :)
IIIEV
IIIEV
19 Apr 11:19 # Show original
Standing ovation , a wonderful series 📽️
SlimFast
SlimFast
19 Apr 13:31 # Show original
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Heavyrain
Heavyrain
PRO
19 Apr 18:00 # Show original
The series is just WOW
bogdansky9000
bogdansky9000
19 Apr 20:15 # Show original
I will add a comment about the authors' respect for the lore of the series. I saw a funny meme about it.
14. Shelters 31, 32 and 33 are literally in the very center of LA and are not hidden in any way. The master from Fallout 1, it turns out, simply ignores them :D
Citokos
Citokos
19 Apr 22:05 # Show original
Once there was such a drunkenness. A question for experts.

And why, in S01E04, did the hospital ghoul Roger get killed?

When viewing it, I thought in order to grind it into oriental medicine to enhance Japanese strength. But then it's not displayed anywhere.

Replenish your supplies with them? Bloodthirsty. But then, there was only nothing left on the Ghoul's backpack. Did they tear him offscreen right from Lucy, like hyenas? %-(

Out of compassion? One last help for a friend? But then what's all this for?

I misunderstood even that. The scene was not continued. What's the sex about? Is someone watching this scene more widely than me?
myauser
myauser
19 Apr 22:12 # Show original
@Citokos: Roger was on the verge of madness. He could pose a danger to the heroes after a complete transformation. So I don't think it was important for Cooper to kill him now or later.

mellowmarshes
mellowmarshes
23 Apr 08:47 # Show original
@Citokos: It seems to me that there is no compassion or bloodlust in the character of the Ghoul, only pragmatism. When you rock cannibalism in the game, you also somehow don't think about the moral side of this issue. Well, after the fight, you will need to spend no steampacks, it's useful. Nothing personal.
Antikus101
Antikus101
20 Apr 01:49 # Show original
That's all intertwined in half a season, that's the saturation, and how everything turned out to be connected - I'm delighted and it's all in my favorite franchise. I even opened my mouth when I realized that Betty's Caretaker and Betty's young assistant - it turns out she is, frozen out of this shelter
vk531418
vk531418
PRO
20 Apr 07:21 # Show original
I don't have any censored words to describe how much I liked it. I've seen some outrage from fans of the game, now I'm going to run and watch plot comparisons. Gorgeous! God, I wish there were more such vivid film adaptations where I really want to know what's next?!"
Lavawik96
Lavawik96
20 Apr 10:14 # Show original
This scene with the ghoul and the knights is such nonsense. Why didn't they just shoot him? And why don't they have a built-in night vision device of some kind, or just a damn corny flashlight? Turned off the lights and that's it, the power armor doesn't work? One ghoul just shot everyone in some sudden vulnerable spot. Kringe
Lepestok
Lepestok
01 May 08:09 # Show original
@Lavawik96: Yes, it's very crazy. It is also especially crazy that the developers of the T-60 did not know anything about this type of defect (which cannot be), since they did not fix it in this model. Or they didn't want to.
It's enough to recall a pre-war conversation between Cooper and that big shot from VolTek (or West Tech, I don't remember), where they discussed the lack of T-45, which killed a lot of good guys. I think when the new armor was accepted, the military would definitely be interested in whether it had the same defect. I also understand that if fixing this defect could cost millions, West-tech could have greased the receiving commission, but damn, the welding defect does not seem to me such an insurmountable problem.
Well, once again, I note that it is simply impossible to shoot at a moving target the size of a ruble coin in complete darkness. And if so, then it would be enough for the knights to cover this place with their hand. In general, the weakest moment in the series. As was Cooper's sudden appearance in this place at this time. At this point, I remembered the teleportation of heroes from Game of Thrones.
6o4ka
6o4ka
PRO
20 Apr 12:30 # Show original
A good ending, the lights turned on) we are waiting for season 2, I even thought about whether it would be worth trying to play... although I used to be interested in more human games, or something))
shked1993
shked1993
20 Apr 16:53 # Show original
Put a plus if you also drowned the whole series for a ghoul😁
It's a great series! I didn't regret that I started watching
I hope that there will be a continuation.
Lighthouse012
Lighthouse012
20 Apr 23:30 # Show original
The first thing I would like to note is that the fanservice has benefited history in the first place. In the game, we rummage through buildings a lot in search of supplies and often find adventures on the ass... Actually, that's what happened with Lucy and Maximus.
Plus, this spirit of adventure and exploration, unusual locations that complement the world and stories.
The props work is fantastic. One power suit is worth a lot. The graphon is like in a big expensive movie.
I liked that we carefully developed the universe further in some details, like the same cold fusion.
Well, the application for New Vegas is very interesting. There are even more beaten-down factions and charismatic places. The season was definitely a success!
ekdmi
ekdmi
21 Apr 03:15 # Show original
as a person who has not played any part of the game, I really liked the series! it was interesting to find out what's what along the way)
yryryshka
yryryshka
21 Apr 17:44 # Show original
There's no doubt it's a good series. I'm already waiting for the second season. But I would like to note separately that they left wonderful soundtracks from orig games. Right in the heart. Nothing else would have come here.
Enchantresss
Enchantresss
PRO
21 Apr 18:17 # Show original
In general, the series came to me, I watched all the episodes at once during the day (here you can say thank you to Amazon that they released all the episodes in one day, and did not stretch for 8 weeks).

Very atmospheric scenery, great music and titles that I didn't even want to miss.

Walton Goggins did a great job, both as a Ghoul and as Cooper, it was interesting to watch him.

I'm looking forward to the next season, I want more Lucy, Ghoul and CX404.
Reise
Reise
21 Apr 19:27 # Show original
I don't remember the last time I was so hooked on something. I'm looking forward to continuing! Ghoul and Lucy are full of delight
vk922554
vk922554
21 Apr 21:38 #
NEW VEGAS 2 BABY LET"S GOOOOOO
GonReborn
GonReborn
21 Apr 23:18 # Show original
Well, I've always liked Goggins for a reason, he dragged me with charisma, a rare case when it's interesting for me to look not only at the character now, but also at flashbacks with him. Ella Pernell is an unreal beauty, it's impossible to tear yourself away from her eyes. They even thought about the fact that she was so clean with silky hair by the season finale she was already all dirty, dirty and there was no trace of strained naivety. It was interesting to watch, although Maximus's sour face tried to prevent it. I really thought that after his kiss with Lucy, when he smiled for a couple of seconds, now the character will start to change, but no, he dragged his sour face all the way to the finale.
msSomnium
msSomnium
22 Apr 01:34 # Show original
That awkward moment when the branch with the bunker was much more interesting than the main one. The main one was rocked only by the last two episodes. Before that, everything is boring.
Tavi_Li
Tavi_Li
22 Apr 02:07 # Show original
I hope in the second season they will reveal the topic of sex with ghouls 👀
Yellow_Wells
Yellow_Wells
22 Apr 02:17 # Show original
waiting for Cooper / Lucy, because because
FullThrottle
FullThrottle
PRO
22 Apr 14:15 #
War...
FullThrottle
FullThrottle
PRO
22 Apr 14:16 #
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vitalik97
vitalik97
22 Apr 15:04 # Show original
Please tell me which service to look at, I tried to find it, I didn't find it, maybe I overlooked it, I'm waiting for an answer, I'm grateful
FullThrottle
FullThrottle
PRO
23 Apr 00:17 # Show original
@vitalik97: in the comments to the first episode
mako45
mako45
23 Apr 00:20 # Show original
@vitalik97: There is an option to watch the Amazon series on Amazon
parampampam1
parampampam1
23 Apr 14:21 #
@vitalik97: https://t.me/fllt_tv
ngc4319
ngc4319
28 Apr 16:03 #
Зетфликс
Bairum
Bairum
22 Apr 16:15 # Show original
Despite the fact that my detailed opinion about the series is suitable, rather, in the comments to the first episode, but suddenly someone vulnerable will consider some phrase a weighty spoiler, so I share it here. I'm sorry about the sheet in advance, but graphomania is like that.

The year is 2296. More than two hundred years have passed since the nuclear war. The surviving remnants of humanity live relatively serenely in underground shelters, unaware of how a completely non-idyllic new world order with mutants, cannibals, sects and wars has been built on the surface for decades... wars that never change. Naive Lucy, an inhabitant of shelter 33, who left her native penates for the first time and went in search of her kidnapped father, will have to face such an unfriendly environment. Her path will periodically intersect with two colorful characters: Maximus, the squire (newly consecrated) of the knight of the Brotherhood of Steel, and Ghoul (long converted), a bounty hunter. And all these three, in the best traditions of the Good, bad, and evil Sergio Leone, will with enviable regularity intentionally or not help and hinder each other on the way to the cherished unifying and separating goal.
 
In short, reader, I watched the series Fallout and I will not play the expert of the franchise... So, a reference to the wrong video game about the post-apocalypse.

In general, indeed, somehow it so happened that, despite my almost thirty-five years of playing experience, I am familiar with the Fallout series only slightly. In the first two parts, I played quite a bit - at that time I was not interested in the role-playing genre, and the three (along with New Vegas) and the four came out when it was getting harder and harder to find time for hours of adventures every year (hello, by the way, bought, but not completed games from Rockstar, starting with the fourth GTA). Of course, some things reached me anyway, but - I repeat - I'm not an expert, no. Accordingly, the opinion will be unbiased, for every little thing that somehow does not correspond or contradicts the games in the series, I simply will not be able to find fault, and, in general, even if I could, I probably would not want to.
 
These are the amazing times when the curse of video game adaptations came to naught. Sometimes contradictory things come out, and frankly bad ones, but the overall quality has certainly grown by a head in recent years. It's not so scary for your favorite series, as it was, say, in the nineties, when filmmakers (with rare exceptions like the first Deadly Battle) simply did not understand why they love a particular game. And all the more gone are the days when the German Uwe Boll massively bought licenses and cynically laundered money (Nazi gold, yeah) through his adaptations, simultaneously knocking out reviewers for criticism. Nevertheless, I was a little afraid of what would happen with the Fallout. Yes, not only Jonathan Nolan (with his wife Lisa Joy) was a producer, but also a director. For me personally, Christopher Nolan's films, where Jonathan had a hand in the script, are the most interesting and lively. And, of course, Jonathan and Lisa were the authors of the serial The World of the Wild West, the first season of which is one of the brightest, smartest, brain-crushing projects of the last X years on television. On the other hand, they also seem to be directly related to subsequent seasons, which were much weaker. On the third hand, the married couple, it seems, is vulnerable to the West (especially closer to the finale), because they began to engage in Fallout, and Nolan somehow flirted so much in the third part that he did not have time to write scripts. And, on the fourth hand, Nolan is exactly what producers and directors are, but not screenwriters and showrunners. Seeing the final result, of course, I will not believe that Nolan never influenced the screenwriters, but the main ones in terms of the plot were still some Geneva Robertson-Duoret (relaunch of Lara Croft, the first Captain Marvel) and Graham Wagner (the long-running sketch show little known to us "Portlandia"). I would say a dubious reputation. Not an outright failure, but it raises questions.
 
Nevertheless, everything turned out as it should, and even better. "Fallout" is good at almost everything. Firstly, this is actually a full-fledged fifth part of the game - the action of the series takes place nine years after the events of the four. Yes, I suspect there are some discrepancies with the canon, but while Bethesda, led by Todd Howard, is cooking up a real game sequel, even such a development is bread for fans. Despite the fact that the same Howard was a consultant for screenwriters. This is partly why the adaptation, of course, in terms of style, still tends more towards the later parts of the games. Secondly, "Fallout" works from and to as an independent work. You may not know what was in the games, what kind of constant references to them flash in the frame, but you will have fun, regardless of your degree of immersion in the world created a long time ago.
 
Surprisingly, on modern TV (and streaming services), it turns out that you can create great things without mentioning the agenda, taking on the main roles of charismatic actors and beautiful actresses. "Fallout" it is difficult to call a super serious work. This is an excellent black comedy with a considerable amount of naturalistic violence (however, there are boundaries, of course). However, where drama is needed, the authors skillfully escalate, and the actors act out. Not to mention the sharp political satire and subtext in the spirit of Dr. Strangelove Kubrick, which is revealed in full force by the last episode (even if such comments look slightly hypocritical from the products of the Bezos company Amazon). However, there will be a place to think before that. This is facilitated by a narrative that not only switches between the three main characters/antiheroes: Lucy, Maximus and Ghoul, but also between two timelines: events before the nuclear war and modernity. By the way, it is in this approach that the ears of the photographer are visible... Jonathan Nolan. One of the main characters, Ghoul, is such a Man in Black from the Wild West World. Just find ten differences (spoiler: you won't find that many). But my respect is to Walton Goggins, he got his own unique PMT. I've been watching the actor since the days of the police series Shield - the man grows above himself without stopping. So, both time lines offer their own set of riddles, which in the end deftly (and logically) intertwine into one tangle.
 
You won't be bored anyway. There is not a single overtly passing or weak episode in the first season. Somewhere there will be a lot of action, somewhere they will significantly furrow their eyebrows and dump out another batch of questions / answers, somewhere they will hit into unrestrained black fun: whether it refers to the witch hunt / communists in the past or to the harsh realities of the nuclear wasteland, somewhere a new unusual location will be shown or a strange character will be introduced. However, it is not a single plot - the picture looks expensive-rich, one hundred percent immersion, everything is authentic. I can't remember a single frame where something screamed "Naked CGI!". The soundtrack is gorgeous. It is clear that all (or almost all) songs are taken from games, and in games, in turn, they appeared from the golden fund of American music of the forties and fifties. There can be no complaints at all, however, one of my favorite modern composers Ramin Javadi (The World of the Wild West, by the way, yes, he is again], Game of Thrones, Prison Break) I didn't pass by either.

Well, the atmosphere of retrofuturism (as if taken for granted for those who have seen at least one frame from the games) is, of course, very cool.
 
To be honest, according to the trailer of the series, there was a feeling that everything would work out, but the fact that everything would work out so well makes you believe that not everything is lost on modern TV. And even within the framework of one channel, for every "Rings of power" there will be a "Fallout".

P.S. Something, of course, is not very good hovering in the noosphere about nuclear war, yes. The creators on this topic became animated. However, given the realities, it is not surprising. Let's hope for the best.
 
Rating: 9 Nuka Cola caps out of 10
Oksana_Gol
Oksana_Gol
22 Apr 20:54 # Show original
To me, as a person who has never been familiar with the Fallout universe, the series went even further In the last episode, well, they just chewed everything up, which was the question in previous episodes. How glad I am that Lucy and Ghoul are now in the dream team, finally the dynamics are incredible! I'm really looking forward to continuing, and I really hope that they won't be shooting for three years. 😵💫
id73010830
id73010830
23 Apr 00:56 # Show original
- At the end of episode 8, Cooper (Ghoul) is interested in where his family is, but at the very beginning they show us how he rides a horse with his daughter and 4 bombs fall?! All the way, it was expected that he would tell a whiny story about how his daughter died from radiation, and he gulified, but no, he lost her somewhere and is sure that voltek knows where she is??
-7 minute 38 seconds of episode 1 show in shelter 33, at least 8 children no older than 10-12 years, after which about their existence do they forget in principle how?
-Why didn't Hank MacLean recognize Lee Moldaver, why didn't he have any questions why the caretaker of shelter 32 is not a representative of 31?! (In the context of everything that will be told next, he decided not to spoil the intrigue for the audience.)
-Why does Moldaver need a code, and 100 computer hacking skills didn't help? But the most important thing is that she sat on her ass without doing anything to help Siggi Wilzig (from the Enclave), the fact that the component for thermonuclear fusion in the end turned out to have a whole orchestra in the bushes!
- There is no safety of shelter 31 at all. Go who you want to kill the sleepers, there is zero security. There are no cameras, there has been no connection for 3 years, no one cares, the entrance codes do not change!
- None of the management knew what was going on in shelter 32, so they had the opportunity to put everything in order and, by the way, fix the gateways between the crossings.
- Residents of 32, let's write with our blood that we know a terrible secret, but what kind of secret won't we tell, and then we'll all drink together?
- If you read the Ent, the NKR breathed incense, there is no water, constant crop failures, they are raking in from the Legion, BS and Mr. House's robots. TV series: Voltek- "we have been waiting for 219 years and our main weapon is time, don't let's drop the bomb."
лавровый
лавровый
02 May 03:46 # Show original
@id73010830: 1) xs, I assumed that he took his daughter to her mother, because they both had a place in the shelter and he wanted to at least save her, and then he safely gulified
3) maybe he doesn't know them all by sight 🤷🏻 there were quite a lot of cryos, at 31
Garet
Garet
03 May 09:19 # Show original
@id73010830: 7 minutes 38 seconds of episode 1 are shown in shelter 33, at least 8 children no older than 10-12 years old, after which their existence is forgotten, in principle, how is it?

It looks like someone got a perk "child killer."
slashka
slashka
23 Apr 01:34 # Show original
The series will also appeal to the old ones, who are new "folychs" do not perceive ;)
And the actor of the main character for the brotherhood, Aaron, is very similar to the son of Mr. Denzel Washington ... =)
parampampam1
parampampam1
23 Apr 14:25 # Show original
I do not share the general enthusiasm. Having started well, the series began to slide very quickly into complete nonsense with each episode. The last episode is not bad, series 6/10.
new_sha2015
new_sha2015
23 Apr 17:01 # Show original
Cool Lucy, of course, left Maximus. Does he need help, is he dead, what difference does it make, these are all particulars
lilingin
lilingin
24 Apr 12:04 # Show original
Music in the series as a separate art form 😍😍😍🥰
Garet
Garet
03 May 09:20 # Show original
@lilingin: It's a dumb soundtrack from the gazebo.
sashaloom
sashaloom
24 Apr 18:57 # Show original
The ghoul opened some kind of perk to a shootout with the Brotherhood, because for some reason he did not beat him up at the first meeting with Maximus)
DeN_MiLLeR
DeN_MiLLeR
24 Apr 21:46 # Show original
It is still not clear how Lee Moldaver lived for 200 years, for some reason they did not tell this season. Apparently also with the help of a cryocamera
DeN_MiLLeR
DeN_MiLLeR
24 Apr 21:59 #
Allons_y
Allons_y
25 Apr 00:22 # Show original
It's not perfect, of course, but I got high anyway. The ending is very open, it is clear that they were counting on an extension. And hooray, they promise a second season. I'll be waiting.

What did you like:
Gray morality. There is not a single purely positive character. Everyone has a catch. Except that Lucy is still a sweet idealist, but her character is also being tempered.
Visual. Honestly, I was getting high from the view of the wastelands. I love beautifully shown deserts.
Humor. Oh, yes, black humor is great here. She screamed like a seagull several times.
Ghoul. Awesome character, I love them. Cynical character, interesting storyline, charismatic actor. A complete set for happiness. And Lucy, think about it. You can do better chemistry with Cooper if you're with Maxim. Please think about it.

What didn't you like:
The local world. All locations are within walking distance, as if we use fast movement.
It's too empty. At the beginning, there were at least cockroaches and that amphibian from the lake. Then completely zero. It is clear that they focused on the main plot, and the budget is not rubbery, but I would like to see more different animals. Well, just some bandits, looters, illegal traders. Something that would enliven the world.
Maximus. Potentially, the character seems to be interesting. But how insipid the actor is acting out. I don't know, maybe they gave him such an installation, but in any case it doesn't look very good. And my eye is already twitching when the flashback with him and the refrigerator flashes once again. Stop repeating yourself, please! I also memorized this episode the first three times. Stop it!

I haven't played any games yet. Well, that is, I only managed to set the third fallout, completed training, and went out into the open world. There, some bandits killed me in the first location, and that's my hero's path so far.
Therefore, the series was evaluated as an outsider who was not familiar with Lore. And I got a sincere pleasure from 7 episodes out of 8. Success, I think.
palebluedot1990
palebluedot1990
26 Apr 21:37 # Show original
@Allons_y: we all ask Lucy to think about the Ghoul)
IIIu6ko
IIIu6ko
25 Apr 10:48 # Show original
I didn't expect the series to be good.
The thrash entertainment bribed me. It's cool that they don't completely slide into thrash, but balance the whole thing with drama.
The drama is certainly a bit boring, but the plot is twisted quite well, it's interesting to watch it.
Definitely waiting for the second season.
rsv-rsv
rsv-rsv
PRO
25 Apr 12:49 # Show original
Gorgeous. I'm looking forward to the new season. And another question: is the game exactly the same?
Garet
Garet
03 May 09:42 # Show original
@rsv-rsv: apart from 1-2, tactix and partly nieuwegas, everything is much darker there.
DIVbalakovo
DIVbalakovo
25 Apr 14:05 # Show original
I played the first two parts a million years ago. And I liked the series. Dynamic, interesting, atmospheric, sometimes humorous. There are no complaints about the actors. Everyone is very organic in their images. Especially the Ghoul. In general, we are waiting for the second season.
Gordey
Gordey
25 Apr 16:03 # Show original
I played the first two games, but it didn't go any further.. The series has its drawbacks, but they are mostly scripted, and the characters are good (except for the Maximum). I liked it more than not
golos07
golos07
25 Apr 17:08 # Show original
I played everything (starting with the first one when it came out). I liked the film adaptation.
The only question is to the translators (and the commentators who followed them) who are about Titus, Maximus - and do they also call Spartacus Spartacus?
rsv-rsv
rsv-rsv
PRO
25 Apr 17:17 # Show original
@golos07: I played the first part, but it was so long ago that I don't even remember what it was about
Hidji
Hidji
25 Apr 17:40 # Show original
@golos07: Spartacus translated IFN from Latin, and Maximus in this particular case from iflisha. There is a difference).
PanPanich
PanPanich
PRO
25 Apr 23:58 # Show original
Excellent sci-fi. A good film adaptation. Everything works, I believe in the universe.
Змеиная_suka
Змеиная_suka
PRO
26 Apr 18:22 # Show original
I'm not familiar with the game, I watched it as a separate series, honestly I didn't understand anything, but Amazon shot it perfectly. Top-level detail ☺️
naastser
naastser
26 Apr 23:31 # Show original
No, well, the electrical wiring in this universe, of course, can be envied ..
200 years have passed, but it works properly!
gcatylin
gcatylin
27 Apr 00:25 # Show original
I didn't play the game.
I really liked the intrigue and unexpected twist in the series with the fact that the owners of the shelter themselves staged explosions.
We would also need a series with a plot: the owners of online cinemas secretly gather with the owners of courier services / marketplaces and decide for their own benefit to create a dangerous virus that will cause a lockdown, self-isolation.
Citokos
Citokos
28 Apr 13:59 # Show original
@gcatylin: ///We would also need a series with a plot: the owners of online cinemas secretly gather with the owners of courier services / marketplaces and decide for their own benefit to create a dangerous virus that will cause a lockdown, self-isolation.///

Yes, a whole layer of culture can be sculpted here. Ozone holes, anti-personnel mines, global warming, doctors without medicines, journalists without conscience, peacekeepers for war, satellite Internet for everyone, horoscope, avian flu and there are no numbers. ;-)
ron1
ron1
27 Apr 12:38 # Show original
The series ended, but the series was never revealed. Thanks Todd!
bananchick
bananchick
28 Apr 01:50 # Show original
It's so good, I'm really looking forward to season 2. Thank you, Amazon, for such an immersion in such a journey, albeit a small one (for 8 hours xD)<3
SingiIkari
SingiIkari
28 Apr 12:16 # Show original
I've been playing the game for so long that I don't even remember which part it was. I can't stomach the post-apocalypse from the word at all. But the series is just a dump, I really liked it.
Vakich
Vakich
28 Apr 19:48 # Show original
It was wonderful. how a game fan rated this series 10/10
stpykob
stpykob
28 Apr 22:04 # Show original
It was interesting and colorful. It is clear that the authors of the series recreated the world that is familiar to us from the games. Humor and a bloodbath at the height, the footage at the end of the series - as if GG came, cleaned up the location and went to order :)
I hope that after such revelations, when they revealed how corporations are run in capitalist countries, the series will not be closed and we will see the continuation.
* waiting for the nastiest guys - Enclave*
Sania_san
Sania_san
30 Apr 08:39 # Show original
I will fix the opinion of a person who has not played games (although I was told that there is only the Universe of games here, the plot is mostly artistic), with the hope that the second season will change this opinion: I did not like it. It was incredibly interesting to watch the secrets of shelters 31-32-33 and then a piece about the 4th. In these branches, everything is thought out, interestingly shown, coolly done, all questions are answered and it's a thrill. Otherwise, there were delusional, meaningless walks in the desert, uninteresting and unpleasant gg (Maximus was most annoying, very upset that he was alive - pathetic, always with a stupid expression on his face, they also inserted a love line, brr). Fortunately, most of the questions were answered, which usually happens in a rare first season.
funnypennywise
funnypennywise
30 Apr 09:29 # Show original
Kontsovka pumped up a little, and so it turned out well
Comedya
Comedya
30 Apr 14:56 # Show original
When watching the series, I couldn't help myself, and went to download Fallout Shelter, a kind of farm in the atmosphere of the game and the series, I already forgot how fun it can sometimes be to collect caps from Nucleon Cola and go into the desert to explore.

The series went off with a bang ♥
Lepestok
Lepestok
01 May 08:26 # Show original
To be honest, VolTek's plan is the stupidest. We will destroy civilization, and then we will wait 100,500 years until we remain the sole monopolist. If competitors (such as the NKR) appear, we will put pressure on them. But development is inherent in the very nature of people and society. And no matter how much VolTek destroys the unwanted, they will appear again and again. VolTek did not have to wait for something incomprehensible, but immediately after the war, take on the image of the messiah, come to the aid of the survivors and build the society they need. The first years after the war are the only moment when society is destroyed as much as possible (and even then, within the Fallout universe. In fact, it would be different).
Ocsana_D
Ocsana_D
01 May 09:54 # Show original
I liked it, it's fresh!
All the characters are interesting, not cardboard, maybe only Maximus infuriates periods 😄
Well, this is his image, of course))) to do - and not to think)) Character
Lucy has grown up, her brother is also doing well - they found out about everything))
myauser
myauser
01 May 10:00 # Show original
@Ocsana_D: Maximka's principle of life is Dementia and courage
iionTihii
iionTihii
PRO
01 May 14:09 # Show original
I played all parts of the game except the first one and I really liked the series. There are a lot of fan services, quite obvious, but capable of surprising plot twists. Of course, there are plot conventions in places, but again not critical, the rest is good enough to forgive flaws. Of course, the finale was disappointing, the Moldaver was simply mediocre, but the tie for season 2 is excellent. I'm rooting for Gul and Lizzie))))
SergeiH
SergeiH
02 May 11:15 # Show original
Knowledgeable people, please explain how some characters have lived for 200+ years. Well, her father, apparently, slept off in the capsule, OK. The ghoul has mutated and is immortal, OK. And this Moldaver? How is she? I didn't play games, but I didn't smoke from the series. Also, Barb will obviously appear later, is she also sleeping in the capsule?
myauser
myauser
02 May 12:33 # Show original
@SergeiH: and the devil knows, the series did not explain her longevity
Citokos
Citokos
02 May 13:33 # Show original
I've scratched my helmet here.

So, we are discussing the Fallout universe. About the conspiracy of the Evil Corporation that destroyed civilization. About inhuman experiments.

The population on the globe in 1804 was 1 billion. Well, there, before the Napoleonic Wars, the population of Russia was 27 million, and France, suddenly, 28 million.
The population on the globe in 2023 is 8 billion. The crazy population growth lasts only 200 years. That is, there has always been less than one billion people.

So, after the nuclear bombing, it became as it always was!?

Canned food has been sitting in Shelters for 200 years in Fallout. There are 200 there, 200 here, and the bosses in cryocapsules, it seems like 1000 years is not a problem. Like flying a time machine into the future. Inhumanly. If you can't win, take the lead.

Are you smart? What a communist series. :-0
Morgana_G
Morgana_G
02 May 13:50 # Show original
It turns out that the destroyed 32nd shelter was cleared by the residents of the 31st?
Citokos
Citokos
03 May 03:35 # Show original
@Morgana_G: ///It turns out that the destroyed 32nd shelter was cleared by the residents of the 31st?///

Or cleaning robots from 31.
zadraleks
zadraleks
02 May 16:04 # Show original
Too lazy to read 400+ comments. Someone has already written:
1. How did Moldever herself live for 216 years? It is unlikely that the corporations froze it in 31 storage facilities, but it opposed them.
2.and what kind of joke is this with taking cold synthesis? OK, I get it, Walt tech bought out the Patent and legally banned Moldever from developing this thing. But after a nuclear war, these prohibitions are not worth the paper on which they are printed. Take it and reinvent that synthesis, you're a scientist, you remember everything. No, for some reason we need to chase a ready-made prototype.
3.Well, it's a little funny that for some reason the whole of Los Angeles is powered by the Observatory and for 200+ years all the power lines have been preserved and even the light bulbs are working.
Barnaby
Barnaby
02 May 18:00 # Show original
@zadraleks: 1. I assume that Moldaver was frozen in the fourth shelter, I can also assume that it was she who had a hand in the coup in the shelter, which is why the residents of the shelter worship her so much. How she got there is another question. Perhaps she sneaked in under a false name, or maybe Volt-Tech gave her a place there, she didn't openly oppose them, all meetings were secret.
2. The network writes that she only invented the technology of cold fusion, and "Volt-Tech" bought out this technology, finalized and created a working prototype. Or maybe she just didn't have the right funds to recreate her invention.
3. I don't know what kind of technology they have in the observatory, but it seemed to me that it was some kind of wireless power supply system. This is exactly in the Moldaver spirit - to distribute energy to all those in need, and so that no one can control its supply.
Pthah
Pthah
02 May 18:54 # Show original
@Barnaby: Maybe she was worshipped by the survivors of that bombed-out city? or because she saved them and sent them to 4 shelters?
Barnaby
Barnaby
02 May 21:09 # Show original
@Pthah: You are right, I have revised this point, and among the worshippers there really is not a single indigenous inhabitant of the refuge, only those who came from above. Well, everything else is just my guess, because she was frozen somewhere, and she knew about the fourth shelter.
Citokos
Citokos
03 May 03:42 # Show original
@zadraleks: ///Take and reinvent that synthesis, you're a scientist, remember everything///

Maybe you need a super computer the size of a stadium for this kind of work. Or a nuclear microscope. Or the hadron collider. Or such a small thing as 33 kg of plutonium.
Garet
Garet
03 May 09:46 # Show original
@zadraleks: Reinvent that synthesis

Is it that simple? Nuclear technologies require a very developed industry with thousands of related enterprises and qualified personnel, where can we get this in the post-nuclear world?
Hidji
Hidji
03 May 12:22 # Show original
@zadraleks: a nuclear physicist was fired, but he was not upset, but went to the village and assembled a nuclear reactor in his cellar... It sounds very similar))).
Arrivera
Arrivera
02 May 16:24 # Show original
On the one hand, I rather liked the series, it was quite interesting to watch, the new phenomenon of the man in black pleased me. I liked the branch with the heroine's brother in shelters 33-31. The soundtrack, the camera work, the visual in general, the screensavers are gorgeous!
On the other hand, there are a lot of questions, and somehow it is unclear whether it was intended by the creators to then resolve them in the next seasons or what:
- why doesn't the ghoul know where his family is, if the last time we see him is after the explosion with his daughter? If he assumes that she is alive, then he himself took her to some kind of shelter?
- what did happen in shelter 32 and why did everyone kill themselves? Who removed the corpses and repainted the walls?
- there is also a question about the ageless (but, apparently, still mortal) Moldaver, which the corporation did not make sense to put in a capsule.
I don't know what my brother will do, but I would wake up all these super managers in capsules and make them figure out how to convince/disable the robot and open the door back :D
Pthah
Pthah
02 May 18:52 # Show original
I really hope that Max will build a Brotherhood in the second season, and not run around the whole season like a headless chicken condemning Lucy to Lucy. And what did Lucy's brother choose!?!?
MaKCyHyC
MaKCyHyC
02 May 19:35 # Show original
Uh, New Vegas was shown, juice)
luvfft
luvfft
03 May 00:23 # Show original
The series is good, the attention to detail was especially striking, but the Brotherhood of Steel is very strangely represented in the series in terms of the interaction of the knights - squires. The shown method of influencing subordinates completely breaks them from the inside, but it definitely does not harden and does not create the very core that in the future should show the dedication with which the fighters took the last fight, as it was in the game. Plus, there are a lot of stories of the formation of knights in the game, but I have not met like the one that happened to Maximus and Titus, as for me, an unreasonable stage fiction. There are also questions for the actor playing Maximus: why is this stone face throughout all 8 episodes? More precisely, questions to the one who told him to play like that - why?
Garet
Garet
03 May 09:51 # Show original
@luvfft: The quest to join the brotherhood in the first part - you are sent to collect records from a missing expedition to a place where the questor's partner smiles maliciously and hints that you will not return from there. It is in the troika that the brotherhood of technofascists has turned into holy paladins and defenders of the oppressed.

Well, the attention to detail is questionable, especially the destruction of Shady Sands and the fall of NKRv 2277, 4 years before the events of New Vegas.
myauser
myauser
03 May 10:52 # Show original
@Garet: No one destroyed Shady Sands in 2277 and did not mark the fall of the NKR this year.
Only the lazy did not understand this moment. The decline of Shady Sands in 2277 was, yes. The destruction of the city happened much later (and according to Todd, after the events of NV, as well as the fall of the NKR)
Garet
Garet
03 May 11:53 # Show original
@myauser: Episode 6, the blackboard in the shelter classroom. We are watching the series more closely.

Moreover, if they had written 2287, there would have been much fewer questions.
Hidji
Hidji
03 May 12:26 # Show original
@Garet: the explosion there is marked later and without a date. Judging by Max's age in flashbacks, this just happened somewhere in the mid-eighties, since he clearly does not look 30+, rather about ~ 20 years old.
gkalian
gkalian
03 May 12:30 # Show original
@Garet:
gt;6th series, a board in the shelter class. We are watching the series more closely.
So it says on the board that first there was the fall of Shady Sands, and the bomb was later, there is even an arrow between the events.
However, this moment offended everyone that in some interview the authors (Nolan and Howard) said that the bomb was later, Vegas canon, there are no mistakes here.
Garet
Garet
03 May 15:14 # Show original
@gkalian: Where in HB can I read about the fall of Shady Sands?
Garet
Garet
03 May 15:19 # Show original
@Hidji: let's say 20, he was born at 77, he is 5-6 years old in the footage under the bombs, this is literally 1-2 years from the events of NV, where no one knows that Shady Sands has fallen. If he is 18, then the bombing generally falls on the events of NV.

For some reason, the authors have driven themselves into a dead end, from which they will now have to somehow get out and explain all this. But here the whole series, in general, has questions about the plot and its adequacy.
gkalian
gkalian
03 May 16:05 # Show original
@Garet: It is obvious that nowhere and it is obvious that this is written retroactively. But if you don't like it, then questions to Todd Howard, I just explained the moment with the board.
Garet
Garet
03 May 16:08 # Show original
@gkalian: What does Todd have to do with it? He just distanced himself as much as possible from the west coast, and just tried to make remakes of the original elsewhere.

There are questions for the writers and creators of the series.
gkalian
gkalian
03 May 16:11 # Show original
@Garet: What's that got to do with it? He is the producer of the series, he has said several times that they rejected some of the ideas of the series because they themselves had such ideas. And he also said that almost immediately the screenwriters pitched him the idea of destroying Shady Sands, which he later agreed with. So no, he played and is playing an important role in the creation of the series.
Garet
Garet
03 May 17:13 # Show original
@gkalian: I can just imagine Todd sitting there, making a starfield and being like: "What to destroy? And what is it? I don't care"
tss94
tss94
03 May 13:16 # Show original
I didn't play the game (only the one that came out on the phone), but the series was so hooked that I couldn't tear myself away until I watched everything. A mixture of violence, cruelty, destruction to cheerful music is something! I liked everything, the cast, the actors, the plot, the atmosphere, the dog walking, the humor, the music and especially the unexpected twists. I don't even have anything to complain about, although I constantly find some flaws that don't suit me. Just 10 out of 10! I hope the second season won't be ruined.
Stoni
Stoni
PRO
04 May 12:56 # Show original
Oki-Doki, I liked it)
Stoni
Stoni
PRO
04 May 12:57 # Show original
By the way, was it my imagination, or was there something between Lucy's mom and Moldaver all these years? no wonder she kept her as a ghoul by her side for so many years
Citokos
Citokos
04 May 13:23 # Show original
@Stoni: ///by the way, was it my imagination, or was there something between Lucy's mom and Moldaver all these years? no wonder she kept her as a ghoul by her side for so many years///

Finger the ceiling.

A wild ghoul can be kept somewhere in the basement. This is a product that has been stored for a long time.

But when Lucy's Dad was put in a cage, so that he would play the role of Scheherizade. Here, it's time to get an old friend and colleague out of mothballs. To be in front of this freak's eyes. An element in interrogation tactics.

The time has come.
Stoni
Stoni
PRO
04 May 13:26 # Show original
Come on, it seems to me that someone like him doesn't care about anything at all. And Moldaver knew perfectly well that using Lucy's mom as leverage on him was stupid.
Lenny_crazy_jo
Lenny_crazy_jo
07 May 20:10 # Show original
@Stoni: well, maybe they prepared her for the possible arrival of Lucy, in order to give weight to the words about what the father really is
лавровый
лавровый
25 May 08:53 # Show original
@Stoni: it also seemed that way, plus maybe between moldaver and barb too, given her suspicious phrase, they say, I know your wife and maybe from the side you don't know, or whatever :D
DiDendy
DiDendy
PRO
04 May 19:13 # Show original
The SECOND SEASON of the Fallout series will be even more connected with the game Fallout: New Vegas.

According to Todd Howard, the story will develop directly in the city. At the same time, the creators of the adaptation will try to take care of the key elements of the game's plot so as not to disappoint fans.
Mcmaffic
Mcmaffic
07 May 09:15 # Show original
If at first, the ghoul is the last one for whose arch, I will worry and support, then by the end it seems the only adequate one, even the dwarf (Lucy's brother) from the shelter turned out to be not as slobbery as it might seem. In general, the series is pretty good, all the series equally go well and do not cause any bombings, except that the character of Maximus 😅
OneFriday
OneFriday
PRO
07 May 16:57 # Show original
I'm thrilled. From my nerdy gaming point of view, this is the best video game adaptation I've ever seen.
Bibliotekar
Bibliotekar
07 May 23:36 # Show original
Well, my main verdict is that THERE is NOT ENOUGH DOG.
MoonRine
MoonRine
PRO
09 May 13:49 # Show original
It turned out to be a good series.
tanчик
tanчик
09 May 17:34 # Show original
It was an amazing series, everything was great in it! We are waiting for the second season 😍
zhosman-kinoman
zhosman-kinoman
PRO
09 May 23:57 # Show original
It's not a sin to give a point for such a series ;))
Plus, Amazon rose from his knees right in front of my eyes, because you can whenever you want!
I think this film adaptation of the game is GREAT, bravo!
I hugged everyone who agrees with me )
fb424510
fb424510
10 May 00:49 # Show original
As a fan of the game series, I think the series was a success. Better even than the Witcher, whose universe I also adore.
There were little things that caught my eye ala the killing of Yao-gai (probably the second most dangerous creature in the wastelands after the claws of death) with a van shot from a farting. But it's excusable.
The fanservice was piled up just a bunch, in this series even the robot brain was shown.
Well, Vegas, which was shown to us at the end, is the best of the 3d part of the games. I'm looking forward to it!

But as I understand it, there will be no Caesar's Legion, since New Vegas is standing and Shady Sands is destroyed. Well, or they'll have to replay it somehow.
Hidji
Hidji
10 May 04:24 # Show original
@fb424510: Centaurs and strangers are stronger than bears, it seems to me. Although I've been playing for a very long time and I don't remember their stats anymore).
лавровый
лавровый
25 May 08:54 # Show original
@fb424510: >Better than the Witcher
not really an indicator, that's it...
fb424510
fb424510
25 May 23:00 #
@лавровый:
Я в контексте сериалов которые или сделаны по видеоигре, либо частично к ним причастны.
Ведьмак конечно в первую очередь книга, но и игры не менее популярны у игрового сообщества.
white_boom
white_boom
11 May 22:02 # Show original
Well, it turned out so well! Great series, great ending!!
It's sad that we have to wait a long time for new episodes(
Blomma
Blomma
PRO
12 May 00:43 # Show original
Interestingly, Lucy did not understand that it was Max who brought the Brotherhood to the headquarters of the New California Quartermaster and killed everyone there because of him, or did she understand, but is she OK?
Citokos
Citokos
14 May 01:40 # Show original
@Blomma: ///Interestingly, Lucy did not understand that it was Max who brought the Brotherhood to the headquarters of the New California Quarter and killed everyone there because of him, or did she understand, but is she OK?///

The plot is developing very dynamically. This means that there will be decision-making with a lack of time and information. :-(

All these plot arcs or arcs are drawn in the series. (Whatever terms these playwrights use.)

Literally, a few minutes before the flight, the Fraternities became. For Lucy, who is Atamansha Moldiver and her 40-k robbers?

These are the people who broke into Shelter 33, chopped up people, kidnapped Dad. Lucy shot at them herself, fought with a knife and whatever she had to!

Throughout the show, Lucy's worldview turns upside down. :-(
Сос
Сос
12 May 17:59 # Show original
Guys, who are fumbling, can you explain how they have been alive and well for all these hundreds of years? Or was it explained, and I blundered?
archont66
archont66
13 May 13:09 # Show original
@Sos: Who are they?
llantana
llantana
20 May 21:55 # Show original
@Sos: in the last episode, it was made clear that the employees of the corporation were sent to suspended animation. Then they woke up and went to the 32 and 33 shelters.
And considering that there are more than a hundred shelters, there may be many such places with suspended animation
SergeiH
SergeiH
25 May 12:11 # Show original
Well, someone in a special capsule slept off like her dad. And someone is just a ghoul and immortal like
Pokefan
Pokefan
13 May 06:41 # Show original
Despite the obvious flaws, I am unexpectedly delighted. And I wanted to immediately dig up my favorite second part and go through it for the hundredth time.
FringeMania
FringeMania
15 May 13:26 # Show original
I watched it as a background series. Quite well. I'll even watch season 2 if there is one)
XYZon
XYZon
15 May 22:41 # Show original
I'm going through the fourth Foul again. Isn't that an indicator? ;)

* well, you're suffocating in the rocks)))
1kovtunova
1kovtunova
PRO
20 May 01:12 # Show original
I will definitely be waiting for Season 2 !
Good_Cat
Good_Cat
20 May 08:20 # Show original
Very worthy, really one of the best creations for games. I will recommend it to my friends.
llantana
llantana
20 May 21:50 # Show original
That's interesting.
I enjoyed it
These are interesting answers to some questions
The new caretaker of the 33rd, probably the daughter of a ghoul)
I don't know, since episode 3, she began to think so. And in this episode, I even confirmed my thoughts)
There is only one thing that saddens me... The next season will be released in at least two years....
How long to wait...
Morgana_G
Morgana_G
21 May 02:43 # Show original
@llantana: about the caretaker - it would be in the spirit of the games)
llantana
llantana
21 May 11:54 # Show original
@Morgana_G: I haven't played games, but this thought suggests itself)
If Lucy's father /Henry seems to have been an assistant to the Ghoul's wife. And he's from the 31st bunker. It seems to me that Ghoul's daughter is also from the 31st bunker. Only she looks a little older than Henry. And then she was a little girl.
Does this mean that Henry was in suspended animation longer than Betty
Damn, that begs the thought)
Morgana_G
Morgana_G
21 May 12:11 # Show original
@llantana: yes, only Cooper's daughter's name is Janie Howard, and the caretaker is Betty Pearson...
well, maybe Betty is her middle name, and she changed her last name because of marriage, for example.
llantana
llantana
21 May 12:57 # Show original
@Morgana_G: well, names can be easily changed, as well as surnames, the more the girl was small.
In the first episode, we see Cooper picking up his daughter and riding a horse in an unknown direction. And it also says here that he divorced his wife.
Now Cooper is a ghoul who has been living for many years and does not age
And where is his daughter?
It can be assumed that his daughter was taken away from him, and that no matter what he found her, her name was changed
It was most likely taken by his ex-wife, who is some kind of big shot in Volt-Tech.
And her partner, namely, comes from the 31st bunker. Is it possible that Cooper's ex asked her partner Henry to look after her daughter, who was given a different name?)
Citokos
Citokos
21 May 22:20 # Show original
@llantana: ///The new caretaker of the 33rd, probably the daughter of a ghoul)///

No. There's a different storyline. The big-eyed people saw Betty's secretary in her.

Betty Pearson - Leslie Uggams
Young Betty Pearson - Princess Bey

In S01E08 00:16:24 - 00:17:00.

Which appears in the scene - when Cooper Howard (the future Ghoul) is waiting for his wife in the waiting room of Volt-Tech and eavesdropping, and saw Hank (Lucy's future father) for the first time.

The new caretaker of the 33rd is an employee of Volt-Tech. :-(
llantana
llantana
21 May 22:57 # Show original
@Citokos: Oh my God) I'm obviously not big-eyed, I didn't pay attention)))
beoser
beoser
21 May 11:11 # Show original
Only positive emotions after watching. It was shot perfectly, the script without any special slack, almost all the characters are normally written. Really, so far the series of the year!
Citokos
Citokos
21 May 22:33 # Show original
@beoser: ///This does not negate the fact that his (Maximus's) line is not needed. You can safely cut it out and nothing would change.///

I keep going on.

How is it that nothing will change? How about without Maximus? He and Lucy had saved each other so many times. Without him, this whole scenario needs to be rewritten.

It's just that Maximus's rookie life forced him to hide his emotions and carefully filter the bazaar. The audience doesn't like that. ;-D
beoser
beoser
22 May 16:09 # Show original
@Citokos: I'm not saying that he doesn't fit into the plot, but he fits in well thanks to the screenwriters. But the plot itself, in principle, could be done without this character. Lucy could safely do alone in all situations. But the screenwriters know better. It seems to me that he is inscribed just to be inscribed.
IgorShepard
IgorShepard
21 May 22:41 # Show original
- War never changes. It seems to you that the Wastelands are complete chaos. But someone always turns the steering wheel.

A great ending! And as a result, the most emotional and informative episode of the season.
All the characters are great. Even Maximus became more or less normal in the end. Finally, we will see the tandem of Lucy and Cooper in all its glory. It will be real like with a partner: when Cooper wants to kill someone, and Lucy will dissuade him. We're waiting.
A super interesting branch with Shelters. And in the end, I'm incredibly sorry for Norm, I liked this character. I hope he freezes himself and someday they will decide to go to the 31st to free him.

"The casino always wins".

Mr. House made himself smarter than everyone else and did not spend money on shelters, but saved only himself and his beloved Vegas.
Ironically, corporations are to blame for all the troubles. But to drop bombs on yourself - you need to be complete geniuses (crossed out) idiots.

Definitely a great movie adaptation. We are all waiting for the second season with Death Claws and Casadores.
qnz
qnz
26 May 23:25 #
War.. War never changes...
Charker
Charker
30 May 23:12 # Show original
Fallout is one of the best video game adaptations.
The series struck with colorful detail and an ever-moving plot and surprising with unexpected twists.
The plot captures from the first episode - the world after a nuclear disaster, where everyone is for themselves, and only the strongest survive.
I would like to note the wonderful acting, great visual effects, interesting locations with excellent musical accompaniment and a special atmosphere characteristic of the Fallout game series. Great humor that is combined here with incredibly violent scenes and a sarcastic tone.
I am waiting for the second season to find answers to the remaining questions and in the hope that the new season will be no worse.
medvedus5
medvedus5
31 May 13:15 # Show original
As a connoisseur of the series, I will say that the series is cool, the plot captures both the global question of how it all started, but also small side lines that are very sensibly drawn, but the most interesting thing is that, as in the entire line, there are no good or bad deeds, they are rather neutral and it is unknown what can jump out of a good undertaking...
Chilipizdrick
Chilipizdrick
PRO
09 Jun 00:43 # Show original
I expected that the main villain would remain the aunt who kidnapped her father, but somehow everything turned completely upside down. The finale is good, there is a decent reserve for season 2. Of course, there are a lot of unclear moments left, such as how the ghoul became a ghoul, where this endless energy came from in general, what's going on with Lucy's brother, but this will have to be told to us next season, apparently. And I didn't really understand the concept, were ideal societies supposed to be formed in 32 and 33 shelters, which would then be released to the surface when there was no one left? And all this should still be run by comrades from volt-tech. But, as I understand it, the main bosses are not in 31 shelters, but somewhere else, away from everyone, so that no one gets them for sure. And it would be nice to know where they are located too. Otherwise, the impressions of the season are purely positive, I will be happy to wait for the second season, everything has been done at the highest level.
Skyscore
Skyscore
09 Jun 02:21 # Show original
@Chilipizdrick: How the ghoul became a ghoul
is the direct effect of radiation (literally - looked at the direct rays from nuclear mushrooms). My daughter did not survive, most likely, he was overgrown
Chilipizdrick
Chilipizdrick
PRO
09 Jun 09:41 # Show original
@Skyscore: it is clear that it is from radiation. I mean exactly everything that happened immediately after the explosion, what kind of chaos was happening on the surface, what was going on with the moral state of the Ghoul and similar things.
Doctor_13
Doctor_13
19 Jun 23:52 # Show original
So, it turns out the communists were right, and corporations will do anything for profit, at any cost? In general, all the lines were beautifully brought together at the end, and it was shot coolly
MarkRaffer
MarkRaffer
20 Jun 10:43 # Show original
@Doctor_13: No! It is the leftists who have once again removed just such an interpretation in order to make themselves look good.
Doctor_13
Doctor_13
20 Jun 10:58 # Show original
this is just a voiced logical conclusion based on the setting. As well as the irony of Western democracy during the asylum elections
Pixsi
Pixsi
PRO
23 Jun 21:40 # Show original
"The war never ends" (c) it was cool...thanks

I would rather have a second season
kindofake
kindofake
PRO
04 Jul 09:30 # Show original
@Pixsi: It would be cool for you to finish school, but you don't have time...thanks
Doro
Doro
24 Jun 16:21 # Show original
I don't like that the vast majority of TV shows are done with a few seasons in mind, as a result, the season always has an unfinished story. Why can't we make a second season about other characters in the same universe? I suspect that they are too lazy to look for new actors.
Chertt
Chertt
26 Jun 07:31 # Show original
I really liked the series, but I was upset by the change in the main morality of this universe, namely that war and disagreements, both people and countries, can destroy the world completely.
Somehow it is less interesting that all the evil turned out to be in some corporation (or even in one woman)
Barnaby
Barnaby
26 Jun 11:55 # Show original
@Chertt: In fact, nothing has changed. Maybe they were planning something there, but the outbreak of war was clearly unexpected for them, otherwise how can we explain the fact that the daughter of this very woman was in the city during the bombing, and was not hidden somewhere in a safe haven. And Todd Howard himself said that the series is part of the game universe, but just the same in the fourth folych there are mentions that Volt-Tech was not quite ready for war.
Chertt
Chertt
26 Jun 14:00 # Show original
@Barnaby: I will only be glad if, in the end, the blame for the war will not be thrown off on some woman or volt-tech, but so far I am very confused that they are talking about this in direct text in the series
Barnaby
Barnaby
26 Jun 17:12 # Show original
@Chertt: Nowhere in the series does it say in plain text who started the war. There is only a scene in which the heads of corporations discuss plans for the future.
ilyuka
ilyuka
08 Jul 08:50 # Show original
I didn't go through any part of the fallout, I liked the beginning of the third one at the time, but then I quickly got tired of it.
The series is wonderful, everything is as I love it. 4 stars, not 5 for the two multicolored central pairs of the series, are tired.
I have already downloaded part 4 to the console, I will try again.
chekhovaar
chekhovaar
PRO
10 Jul 23:39 # Show original
I can say with confidence that those who are familiar with the game will appreciate this series. The viewing experience is positive, although the last two episodes seemed a little confusing to me (perhaps because of my inattention, or maybe I just don't understand this topic too well). I was very pleased with the attention to detail in the world of the series: scenery, costumes, TV commercials, computer chips and various items. The musical accompaniment in the series is excellent. Hopefully, before the release of the second season, I will review the first one again, and then everything will become clear to me.
ComradeSt
ComradeSt
11 Jul 00:17 # Show original
I'll give myself both the sky and the moon
kamikaze
kamikaze
13 Jul 18:24 #
Братство стали, которые всё ставили на технологии и оружие, идут почти врукопашную в упор. Борьба всем миром за ядерный синтез, дада, ведь отсутствие электричества - главная проблема, а не радиационное заражение, отсутствие чистой воды и еды. Волшебные элексиры "хоп и ты бессмертный гуль". Злобные корпорации, готовые стереть мир ядерной войной ради денег, которые потеряют ценность после этой самой ядерной войны. Сюжет конечно полная дичь.
Но чисто как фансервис для тех, кто играл в фоллаут - пойдет.
Citokos
Citokos
04 Sep 07:55 # Show original
@kamikaze: /// after all, the lack of electricity is the main problem///

The weather.

The availability of free energy solves many problems. Well, there are watermelons of Antarctica, in year-round greenhouses, and all that. Nuclear water desalination plant, Krasnovodsk city. Endless air, on a nuclear submarine. Production of excess hemorrhoid oil, with a cost of $ 1,000 per barrel. Yet again. How many megawatts does it take to bend the orbits of electrons and get gold out of lead?

Energy is very important! For the sake of such prey, it makes sense to go on a military campaign.

/// they go almost hand - to -hand at point - blank range///

If they had come for the heads, they would have dropped a bomb from each helicopter. And since they came for the goods, so much for the fighting in the corridors. In our reality, everything is the same. You can disassemble a high-rise building from a tank. Yes, even from a cannon firing from behind a hill. And at the same time, there are detachments of special forces officers. "All my life under the dome of the circus. ". (c) For short-range combat, storming houses, hijacking planes, etc.

///ready to wipe out the world with a nuclear war for the sake of money that will lose value///

Not money. The authorities! Money is just a medium of exchange. The right guys will print the money themselves. ;-)

///purely as a fanservice for those who played fallout///

There is an oddity in discussing this artwork. The same people, literally in one paragraph, simultaneously demand compliance with the game canon and realism!!!

Yes, it's fine. The series is pretty cute. You throw watching bad TV shows for 2-3 episodes. :-(

And I didn't play any games. ;-)
Kaelar
Kaelar
14 Jul 14:55 # Show original
I didn't play Fallout, the series left a positive impression. I look forward to meeting with the heads of the corporation in the western style🤠👆👉
maurum
maurum
01 Aug 10:04 # Show original
I really feel like reading 600 comments from above, so I'm sorry if my opinion was repeated in every third review.
The character of the Ghoul is still the same Man in a black hat from Westworld - that's how Nolan likes antihero cowboys with controversial morals, a confusing past and stylish hats.
At first, the character did not delight me, but gradually the ex-Voltboy becomes the central figure of the bacchanal presented. The actor just nailed it, he is absolutely the only one from all over the considerable caste, to whose game there are no questions. If we consider only three lines of formation of the characters, then Lucy is also not bad, the disclosure and development of which is very well depicted by the actress. And if the Ghoul and Lucy have enough chemistry on the screen and the dynamics of their relationship are becoming more interesting, then Maximus is frankly an unnecessary Persian who does not cause a drop of understanding, emotion or compassion. His whole branch is very boring and background. And the way Max's branch was finalised does not cause any excitement or a drop of interest at all. He is perceived as a traitor without five minutes, who, sensing power, will return to the old rudiments of morality.
In addition, it was very interesting for me to watch Lucy's little brother. The smart guy and his final twists keep the interest in the sequel on a par with the journey of the Ghoul and Lucy.
To me, as a person with zero knowledge of the presented universe, the series as a whole was interesting, colorful and absurd. I suppose that's what the authors wanted. I love Nolan, the screenwriter, he doesn't disappoint me personally. But it was very annoying to read millions of comments about how he ruined the canon, what dumb turns, which fallout game is better and other heresy of game fans. Just branches of 50+ comments-disputes which part is better, well damn are you serious?
Finally, I want to note the small but vivid role of Emmerson, who set out on a journey saving essentially the dog and all of humanity. Because I really miss ROI, and I'm glad that Nolan does not forget about the vivid images created in his works.
Skyscore
Skyscore
01 Aug 10:27 # Show original
@maurum: we wrote about Nolan's general creative method, yes, but I don't see anything terrible to repeat). And about the sacred game wars - well, this cannot be avoided, and why? It's interesting, it means something to people, maybe not to you.
NodiDima
NodiDima
03 Aug 20:42 # Show original
Well, then.... I looked at it in two days (this did not happen to me))) I did not play the game and found out about the existence of the game after watching the series, but this did not prevent me from enjoying the series. I'm waiting for the second season!
Khrustalev
Khrustalev
07 Aug 03:25 # Show original
The main mistake of the series is the dispersion of the narrative into four incomplete storylines instead of one dense one.

Each game in the series is, in fact, a great road adventure in which the main character goes from ultra-normis to a seasoned wasteland traveler armed to the teeth. In the series, no character experiences such a transformation, the Ghoul is given to us ready-made.

The adaptation itself is extremely sterile - several of the most recognizable visual images were poured as a fan service, politically correct versions of fractions were included, and voila - it turned out to be a non-fluxized, powder-washed Tide with the aroma of Alpine herbs, a kind of apocalypse: he is completely harmless and does not try to say anything, except for the duty of kicking capitalism.

P.S. I suddenly remembered that four years ago there was a film that had suspiciously similar cinematography down to the palette, character archetypes and even the design of creatures - Love and Monsters. It's all strange.
Skyscore
Skyscore
13 Aug 22:59 # Show original
@Khrustalev: GG has a pretty distinct transformation, though
DaryaLewy
DaryaLewy
23 Aug 15:59 # Show original
And what did the man inject Thaddeus with anyway? What is the probability that this is a VRE?
Please correct me if anything, I'm not a super expert on Laura. Thanks)
Citokos
Citokos
23 Aug 18:47 # Show original
@DaryaLewy: /// And what did the man inject Thaddeus with anyway?///

A plot mystery. It's not mentioned anywhere in the series. For everyone's joy. ;-)

///What is the probability that this is a VRE?///

The virus of man-made (revolution), ugh, evolution. :-)
DaryaLewy
DaryaLewy
24 Aug 11:17 # Show original
@Citokos: I know about the virus, I mean, could it be that in season 2 Thaddeus will turn into a super mutant?) I would look at it.
skiorh
skiorh
13 Sep 16:48 # Show original
Well, it's very good.
It would be ideal if Maximus died, and from the boy in the refrigerator became the man in the refrigerator.
But that's okay too. Before I could think that he needed someone smart around, Dane appeared and instantly got my bearings. Together they will even be able to make something good, if the government does not hit their heads.
It's a straight whole story and there's even a sense of space and time of some kind!

And an absolutely wonderful soundtrack, as I understood from the comments, it is still full of references to the games, but also delightful in itself.
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