@YoTha: and they are not shy at all, at least remember The Boys. However, this is not a new story in the game industry, how many parallels were made between Ubisoft and Abstergo, for example
@mbro: They also said that corporations influence peace negotiations so that they end in nothing, because if the nuclear apocalypse does not come, the shelters will be useless and investments in them will go down the drain.
@mbro: countries started a conventional war, and it turned into a nuclear one thanks to corporations, at least according to this series. If you look with your eyes and listen with your ears, it would be possible to understand what you obviously did not do.
@mbro: not only are you unfaithful to your word that you got into the comments, but you also did not get the chance to check the relationship of the series to the canon of games. The series is canonical to the games, despite the inconsistencies, this is the official position of both the producers of the series and Bethesda, who own the rights to the franchise, so I advise you to check the sources before dumping your nonsense.
@mbro: States and corporations do not exist separately from each other. It's essentially the same thing. They are simply divided into a public information field to maintain the discourse.
@mbro: And the events of the series develop in the game universe, everything that happened in the series is a canon for games. The words of Todd himself and representatives of Bethesda.
Therefore, it is now the official canon that corporations, not countries, started the war (:
@Falleny: wait with this conclusion, we were only shown that the wife OFFERED to drop a bomb, but we did not even see a unanimous yes vote. And even so, the Chinese who dropped the bomb first are still the official canon
@mbro: If we look from their perspective, then the state under capitalism is run by corporations. They lobby their interests through senators, because without financial support it is stupid not to get elected. Well, you have to pay off your debts. Under a dictatorship, the situation is a little simpler: the state is one person. But the result of all this fuss is about the same: what will happen to ordinary people does not matter to anyone.
@Skyscore: Strictly speaking, it does not follow from Barb Howard's words that the Great War began this way. In other words, plan!= implement.
Personally, I would not like such violence against the ent of the universe. In the original Fallout, there were records that the war really unfolded between states, and that the first explosions in the United States were on the east coast; in F4 it is explicitly stated that the war began with the fixation of ICBM launches.
@NiaTeppelin: it seems to be in the previous parts (or dls, which is not canon?) They talked. I'll look for it later, and I'll unsubscribe if the account is not banned for cons (otherwise I dared to say that newvegas is the worst part)
@GreenHedgehog: The author of the original Fallout, Tim Kane, confirmed that China started a nuclear war in the game's universe. However, he said this in October 2023 and, apparently, his words may no longer be canon.
@vsdb104: ///Tim Kane confirmed that China started a nuclear war in the game universe. However, he said this in October 2023 and, apparently, his words may no longer be canon.///
I've heard the opinion that it's about money as usual. ;-)
The series will definitely go to China, with its crazy-sized audience. How would you smooth out the corners?
@YoTha: the main joke is that it benefits them, corporations profit by talking about how bad it is when corporations profit... Capitalism in its purest form
@YoTha: so to say: the more you talk about conspiracies in any works, the less people believe in them. Similar topics are often raised in films and TV series, but the audience is watching "haha, it's good that these are all movies and TV series, but in real life this is not the case." Eye aversion, so to speak. If you want to hide something, hide it in the most visible place.
@YoTha: It is ironic that a black, strong and independent woman, whose husband is an actor, has alienated all of humanity. Well, this independent Maximum - yes, we could take someone who at least knows how to play. In general, the first series were very sugary, just for very children 12-13 years old, but then it got a little better and you can even say - a sturdy foursome, although the film adaptation of The Last of Us, as for me, came out better.
@MarkRaffer: Maximus just has a perk "Savant" pumped in. He walks around with the same face for almost the entire series. Apparently he was told to play like that, I don't know, in an interview he is much more lively and emotional than in the series.
@MarkRaffer: I advise you not to be surprised that young morons dislike such comms. Animals grab any feces from corporations, the k's milk the fanservice as best they can)
@MarkRaffer: there is one thing, but the character of this nigga turned out better than the character of Fin in the new Star Wars trilogy. That nigga sure screwed up.
All this filth lives for money, people don't give a damn. The series itself is super, I didn't see any illogicalities for myself. Sometimes you watch other series and ask yourself: Why did he do it, why did he do it, etc." Here it's all right
@ppcpc10: Yes, let's also pretend that I'm the problem here. I'm not going to slap anything at him, and it's not about grades, but that the person is inadequate, such actions can demotivate commentators, but as you can see, he doesn't give a damn about people, only I have questions for him: "Why did he do it, why so, etc." He's not okay with it))
@Sweet-Sweet: I agree, it's not that I was very worried about the cons, I actually just now found out that you can see who put the cons, but like, I didn't enter into a discussion, nothing, just swept through the comments and fucked up the cons, and then talks about illogical actions \_(ツ)_/
@IIIelKot: That's what I'm talking about! Personally, I had several hundred disadvantages here on the comments, I don't see a problem at all if people really disagree, please. But this one just to fuck with everyone did it, and yes, as you also noticed, with amazing hypocrisy. I just couldn't pass by and not write to him directly that I know it's him, I remembered him as an inadequate person for myself, maybe this warning will help someone else.
He recently threw dizes at me for no reason under all the comments on the series "Ripley", I also thought "what kind of inadequacy is this?"😂🫣And it turns out that he is like that to everyone and everywhere, well, then a tooth for a tooth)))
I'm fine with the cons, if a person just didn't like my comment / the person doesn't agree with my opinion ... but if one person stupidly puts cons everywhere to me, then this is for himself…
Okie doki, the series came out, at least interesting. Firstly, as a person who has passed all the parts of Fallout more than once (especially the 2nd part), NEW VEGAS is waiting for us, and it's a hundred times better, the aesthetics of this season, made in the style of the 4th part (one Legion is worth waiting for) Secondly, there is a lot of black humor, non-standard moves and injuries of the main characters (although there is a steampunk, so all the necessary characters will survive), the plot, of course, is the search for the father, but not mediocre Thirdly, the secondary characters are gorgeous, I could watch a couple more road movie episodes of Pernell and Goggins, the chemistry is felt, the branches with Lucy's brother, Goggins' wife and daughter have good potential. There are no questions for the actors. Fourthly, there are a ton of references, they are everywhere, in phrases, on the screen, in the soundtrack.
Amazon and others (it feels like a lot of people who love the Fallout universe participated in the team) created a wonderful series (not a walk-through, like the Lord of the Rings), which at least will appeal to fans of 3 and 4 fallouts, and as a maximum will come in as an attraction and acquaintance with the universe for everyone else
Goggins is inexcusably few on the screen, a spinoff about the brotherhood has become unequivocally necessary, and all hopes that Nolan will not mess up with the second season (I remember the World of the Wild West)
@mbro: well, actually statistically, everyone who grew up on the 1st and 2nd parts of the fallout, in theory, loves NewVegas, but as usual, everyone tastes and colors
@Sweet-Sweet: well, I perceive New Vegas in the style of a western as a logical apocalypse, if we imagine that all the factories and governments around will fall, then we will not return to the Stone Age (we will have too much knowledge), but everyone we meet will not have smartphones (technologies are very expensive)
Therefore, when everything collapses around, the easiest thing is to build a farm and collect primitive and cheap firearms, and live by the principle of the law is the one who is stronger and who has a bigger gun.;
Naturally casinos, slaves, drugs, religion will flourish in such a world)
@radisu: I grew up on f1 and f2, I really liked f3. I didn't even finish playing F4, I went through Vegas just to get through. I didn't find any 1-2-part Fallout spirit in Vegas.
@radisu: In other parts, there was also slavery, drugs and religion, I think that's not the point here. I didn't notice much difference in technology either, it's just that something in the atmosphere is purely Western, not post-apocalyptic. Maybe when Vegas is transferred to the series, it will feel different there, I don't know.
@mbro: that is, f3 with a round multilevel oblivion city (or whatever the gazebo originally did?), with giant crabs and other game - this is in the spirit of fallout. Is New Vegas with death claws and different factions something wrong? Against the background of f3, this is very much a fallout.
@ppcpc10: Yes, that's right. Vegas was not even saved by the factions (well, they are, it is unclear what they affect), there was absolutely no atmosphere. There is no spirit, it is unclear what you are doing there and why, just running back and forth.
There's only the dialog interface and the claws of death from fallout, and weak ones at that. Flying poisonous insects were even cooler than the claws of death.
The final at the dam is generally a separate topic, I just followed the allies and did not understand what the difference was between mine and others.
The spirit of fallout is when you get out of the shelter and don't understand what's going on around, and not where you are some kind of courier. At this rate, you will write down tactics in your favorite parts, because there are unique mechanics there.
@mbro: Tactics has been in favour for a long time. So is Vegas. Like the first two parts... it's unclear what you're doing in New Vegas? YOU're FIGURING OUT WHY THE FUCK YOU GOT SHOT IN THE HEAD! Weak motivation in your opinion?
@mbro: I don't know what I was playing there. It is quite difficult to kill the claws of death, all these flying hornets were not standing nearby (they could be killed calmly from a sniper and they did not have time to fly, unlike the claws of death, which are difficult to lure out one at a time, they quickly ran and hit hard). Factions affect the plot, quests, the ending, everything is as it should be in an RPG. The finale is an excellent large-scale hack, in which suddenly it is not necessary to kill all the enemies yourself, and some of the work will be done by allies, whom you will recruit by completing quests and choosing a side. Is it okay that the starting and conditionally main quest of the first and second fallout is to find a stray and bring it? Is it not a courier? And a lot of quests are courier. The main disadvantage of New Vegas is that somewhere in the middle there is a lot of tiring running around.
I wrote about the factions and the final above - I was not hooked. I didn't understand the motive of the main character, his motivation, I didn't understand the actions and psychology of the NPCs, factions, and everything in general. After f1 and f2 (and even f3, which triggers many) I wasn't interested in playing it.
A simple megaton from f3 caused me more emotions than the whole of Vegas.
And about "finding a stray and bringing " about f1 and f2 - no, not at all. The quest was to save his people, community/refuge.
@ppcpc10: I do not understand why a point of view that does not coincide with the popular one is ignored. I'm an old fan of the fallout universe, I don't write anything offensive, I'm interested in reading your opinion and writing my own in the comments.
Well, okay, then there will be only one point of view in the comments, hello dead habr.
@mbro: minus = disagreement. I disagree somewhere and I don't want to write another comment. "I disagree." - I put a minus. Personally, the most obscure comment now has a total score of -56 (I'm not following, I looked at it now for the sake of interest). As it is, there are more than 80 cons. Nothing happened, they didn't ban me, they didn't forbid me to write. Grades don't seem to affect anything.
@mbro: "statistically" , "in theory " and " in taste and color" , all these three words say something, apparently that you are not part of the group that is being talked about With these three words, you are part of another group. Let's say I expressed my opinion, the usual opinion, does not pretend to anything, does not force anyone, does not propagandize anything. Usually, people who think differently pass by, they do not perceive this opinion as the truth that they are trying to impose on them, and they understand perfectly well that there are people in this world with an opinion different from their opinion, and this is normal, different people think and comment differently, everyone has their own opinion. Do you compare your opinion with others every time? And if it does not match yours, you definitely need to speak out in the spirit of "why the author of the comment thinks this way, because I think in a completely different way, you need to write about it urgently, someone is wrong on the Internet" I'm glad that you like other games in the Fallout universe unlike me, and it's very strange that you're confused that there are other people who like games that you don't like.
The series was waiting, and for a reason, because it turned out great. Of course, I've heard about the Fallout universe, I've tried to go through it, but I've never gone through any of the parts.But after watching the series, I really wanted to do it, so I'll leave a review as just a passing person. It will be easy for a simple person who is not familiar with the universe to integrate, because even the scenery in the background is made with a professional approach. The plot is not drawn out and not tedious. Black humor completely dilutes the whole picture and fell out of some jokes. The main characters, as well as the minor characters, are very well developed. It is impossible to say unequivocally about him whether he is good or bad, everyone has their own story. And as a result, everything was remembered, and not like in other TV series, when sometimes you forget what the main character's name was. The soundtrack and atmosphere are worked out at a high level. It would be very interesting to learn more about New California and the Brotherhood of Steel. I think there will definitely be spinoffs. The plot seemed strange in places, but quite understandable and interesting. Many people do not believe that the corporation could have dropped the bomb itself, but why not believe it? They had plenty of money, technology also allows, there are connections in the government, and moral principles have gone into the background - in general, there are no prohibitions. They dropped it on some country under the guise, without having time to figure it out, it already responded to the "aggression" of another and here's a nuclear war for you. So the conclusion is that we are waiting for the continuation, and I hope it will not be worse. I definitely recommend watching it!👍
@radisu: I'm terribly sorry, but what didn't you like about MDZ? for me, the second and especially the third seasons raised the bar of the first (I did not get to the final, I just need to review everything, I forgot the details). We developed the idea, moved away from the banal pursuit of a solution in favor of multiple complex lines
@Skyscore: purely tasteful, but I don't like them just because of self-repetition and stomping on the spot, thanks at least they gave birth to Jesse Pinkman, his character had an interesting idea, all the others got zero development for the 2nd and 3rd seasons
I'm sorry, but this is "OKIE DOKEY" and even from the character of Lucy's father (Kyle McLachlan), who played in "Sex and the City" (Charlotte's ex) and there he constantly said this "OKIE dokey" ...😅 Is that also a reference? I know it's crazy, but it just cut me))) Mb just in this idealistic society of 33 with the prototype of the 60s, where was this word trending? Not a fact, but an assumption 🤔
I will not say that I am wildly delighted. But I watched it with great pleasure and without looking away, and this does not happen very often. The plot immediately swung at the global question of who arranged all this at all, and does not waste money on trifles, but reveals it through intersecting personal stories, it turned out well. I liked the characters in general, some more, some less, but at least I didn't want to see anyone.
Fallout is probably the most "native" game for me, and frankly, I was equally waiting for the series and was afraid that the authors would shit themselves in full. What I liked: 1. Attention to detail, in terms of decorations at least, right down to the paintings on the walls, the only thing is that all these decorations are from the four, but still, they are conscientiously done. 2. Music! There were probably only three songs that I hadn't heard at all, of the rest I know almost half by heart, and I'm almost sure that most of these songs weren't in the game, but I definitely heard them in fashion on the radio, of course it could just be a coincidence, well, like they were looking for songs from the same era. 3. Meat and other non-childish topics, there could be more, but I am glad that they were not removed for children. In general, some kind of fall atmosphere was tightened, although I would not say that even the 4th, which was clearly filmed, was completely transferred, but in the video I count as a plus because each part has its own atmosphere. 4. Characters. It probably wasn't intended that way, but I practically didn't see any "good" characters, except for Max's friend, who only harmed himself. Everyone has done something bad or selfish by hurting another, it seems to me realistic in life, and even more so in the post-apoc. Of course, Lucy and Max are still considered "good" on paper, but the situation was forced. What I didn't like: 1. In terms of locations and plot, we just put all the games together, it seems like I knew that the obvious Megaton from the trailer would not be a Megaton, but a mixture of Megaton and Diamond City, well, it cuts the eye straight, unless it's some kind of alt. The universe can roll. Another escape from the Shelter and the search for his father. Another cryofreezing of people from the past. Another Cleaner (the energy chip was activated at the end) Another Wedding. Now there will be another New Vegas campaign. I think you can still list it for a long time, in short, where is something new? 2. Is the brotherhood some kind of cult with monks? I'm glad that assholes, the canon is true here.
@Sweet-Sweet: The brotherhood has always been a cult with asshole monks, from the 1st part. I jumped up when Maximus in the 4th Volte called Volt a sect - who would say that)) Megaton is the east coast, and here is the west coast, LA, in the Santa Monica area.
@lits: About the moment when Max called Volt a sect, I also laughed that the Brotherhood itself is a cult, it is clear, but are monks with a censer not too much? There are also strange addresses like "my Lord", even I don't remember this in games. I'm aware that the Megaton is not in LA, but you never know, maybe they would somehow have attached it in the form of a flashback or something, so far they haven't even said why, it seems there are several planes there, mb was an airfield or something.
@Sweet-Sweet: in the first fall there were trials, initiates, paladins, and dudes in purple robes, I don't know about 3-4 falls, I couldn't play it
Few people remember, but the first fall was an allusion to fantasy, only in post-nuclear conditions. From there, zombie ghouls, orcs-super mutants, palladins-brotherhood, etc. And on the game disc there was the first working build of the engine, where everything is just fantasy, in real time, and not step-by-step, the knight runs around the map.
@Sweet-Sweet: I don't remember censers and prayers. I only remember the bald woman. There are no bald women here (ghouls don't count). Better censers than bald women, as for me)))
@lits: But for me, bald women are better, if they are soldiers, even more so than some kind of inappropriate religiosity in the technological community))
@Sweet-Sweet: about the megaton - stop demanding from the film adaptation an exact copy of the plot of the game or book. About the brotherhood, they have always been a repulsed cult of fanatics, and those members of the brotherhood who were against were condemned.
@mbro: I do not require an exact copy of anything, just the opposite, if you read the meaning. There is no need to cross a Megaton with Diamond City in order to make a new city. Did the Brotherhood always have some kind of RCP priests with censers? Well ok. It is known that they are a cult, I mean religious rituals, they are a technological-military cult, not a religious-medieval one.
@Sweet-Sweet: well, the screenwriter crossed and crossed, that's not a fuck. Is the spirit of fallout still there? Stayed. I don't understand the claims "I would like the plot to be different", or "so I decided that the fallout canon is like this". You imagined in your head how you would like to see a film adaptation, and then you are surprised that the director and screenwriter see the story differently. His right.
@mbro: If I'm writing, then I don't give a fuck. At such moments, for me, the spirit of Fallout disappears and kringe appears. I have not decided anything, I proceed from what was shown in the games, and if I could somehow close my eyes to addressing the knights as "my Lord", then I cannot ignore the inappropriate religiosity of the Brotherhood. You don't have to tell me that I imagined how I wanted to see the film adaptation, because there was no such thing. This is exactly what the screenwriter imagined and sees the Brotherhood differently than it was shown in the games. His right to improvise, my right to criticize this improvisation.
@Sweet-Sweet: plus, sound criticism is needed, I even wondered why they were shown like that. In my opinion, it was laid down in the original source, but it was never directly presented like this. Here, in general, the main line is that all factions are a bit of a sect, each of which has its own idea (= faith) in how to save the world. These are religious postulates, at their core. But they really twisted a little bit here.
But in general, this elder (the dude from Mr.Robot) obviously refers to both the outcasts from F3 and Father Elijah from NV. That is, even within a faction that wants to save the world by condom technology, every time it splits into sub-factions that have their own opinion on how to use technology
@Skyscore: To be honest, I doubt that this is inherent in the original source, of course, it's purely my logic, given that they are a technological science-oriented organization, in the real world it's usually either science or religion. A sect, in the case of Fallout, at least, is not necessarily a religious organization, the same Brotherhood and Enclave can be said to be sects, but their ultimate goal is not related to religion, they are just fanatical in achieving their goals, like religious fanatics. As you said, they have faith, but faith in a vision, not in some kind of deity. Well, just think logically, to whom can an organization like a Brotherhood or an Enclave pray? What about the toaster? :D Seriously, it's hard for me to imagine that they would even pray to some founding father of BS, purely because this religiosity does not fit with BS at all. For example, the refugees from Shady Sands prayed to Moldaver and it was normal for me, apparently she did something for them and in general they are empty ordinary people. You are right about splitting into factions, but this seems to me to be a separate topic in general, I doubt that any religious faction has been founded here, although theoretically anything can happen, if in the future they somehow justify reasonably why this is so, then please. So far, it just looks very strange and inappropriate.
@Sweet-Sweet: >A sect, in the case of Fallout, at least, is not necessarily a religious organization, the same Brotherhood and Enclave can be said to be sects, but their ultimate goal is not related to religion, they are just fanatical in achieving their goals, like religious fanatics
I'm wandering around reddit here, I came across a quote from House from New Vegas when he asks to clean up the brotherhood: "They're terrorist group, basically". Militant, quasi-religious fanatics obsessed with hoarding pre-War technology. There is also an interesting idea that the Enclave are followers of a political bloc, the Brotherhood is a military organization. The logical development was the radicalization of each of them. Well, the same Caesar, who came out of the followers of the apocalypse and became disillusioned with liberal values, took and muddied the cult with the form of the Romans. That's why it seems realistic to me that the Brotherhood is becoming more dogmatized
@Skyscore: In this quote, the prefix "quasi" is important, which means he does not say that they are religious fanatics, but "almost" religious fanatics, i.e., as I said, they are rather fanatical in the accumulation of technology. And that the Enclave is watered. the block is so canon, they are the pre-war government, as well as the BoS pre-war military)) Radicalization is logical, yes, given the structure of the organizations themselves, and post-apocalyptic times, although again, radicalization does not have to be religious, they have a third Reich or something there. Caesar just took advantage of the situation in his favor, but he was disappointed rather in uneducated savages, by the way, a man wrote to me there above that there was no medieval rollback of technology in Vegas, yeah, that's the whole Legion just consists of people who rolled back to the Middle Ages, or even further, by the way. That the Brotherhood is becoming more and more radicalized, yes, it is logical that it is becoming religious after all, not for me. Usually people turn to religion when there is no progress, the Brotherhood seems to have everything normal on the technological front, so it would be strange for them to start praying to someone around the campfire with a tambourine, it seems to me.
@Sweet-Sweet: I have a similar experience with you, a fan of the series since 98, when I saw the second foul on the fargus disc at bati's work, the first two passed three times, three and new Vegas five times, four at a time, 76th- I played for five hours. Interestingly, the collective image of cities, plots and artifacts could well be written down as a plus, as following the spirit of the series, and as a minus (which you did). Or the brotherhood - why is it a minus at all? we just wanted to consider them cool guys for a good cause in the first parts, but it wasn't so obvious there, as lits noted.
Overall, I think Nolan, Joy and Howard DID IT. In general, the creator hardly has more than one or two brilliant ideas on his life path. Howard has had the same approach to game design since the days of Morrowind, from there all these "oblivion with guns ", Nolan and Joy have construction on the way to solving, a kind of wild West world with radiation". And for some reason everyone condemns it, but is it so bad? Especially if the idea evolves (okay, in the case of Howard, you want him to walk faster, but the person is tired, you can understand). Or here's Woody - he shot his 50 films, and everything, in fact, is like "Love and Death " 71. So is Clint, and Ridley, and Bergman, and anyone. We don't really care about a lot of things in life, if you think about it that way.
And here the guys did not set the task to replay the game, but to capture the feeling of the world, recreate it extremely realistically, convey the spirit. I think they did it - I'm sure those unfamiliar with the series will run to steam or console stores (the main thing is not to go beyond 76), and the fans got high from the fanservice (although with such a level of meticulousness it's even blasphemous to call it a fanservice, too filigree work)
@Skyscore: I wrote down the collective image in the negative with a postscript, i.e. if we knew that this is generally a separate universe, where the same Megaton may not exist at all, then it would be much easier for me to perceive the hybrid that was shown. About the collective plot, yes, it's more of a minus for me, I wanted something new, by the way, when shooting, it was possible to circumvent game restrictions, such as the number of non-inscriptions per square meter, i.e. it could be a full-scale war or a full-scale city, as they mentioned about Shady Sands that 35k people there it was, but we didn't see more than 50 at a time on the screen. Thanks for adding 2 more POVs, they diluted the plot quite well, that was something new. About the Brotherhood... Well, everyone misunderstood me. The brotherhood is a cult of assholes = the truth and a plus from me. The brotherhood reads some prayers and walks with censers, and calls the knights "my Lord" = what the fuck and minus from me. I agree! I also mostly liked what happened in general, there are more complaints, there is more to praise, but the Fall is still an RPG, here I also make a discount, Cooper is closest to my style of play, and thank you that he is, but if only there was Lucy/Max, which is not really mine at all, I would not take my playlist into account when evaluating it in the same way. I'm glad that you didn't lose face after all and made me happy, not upset! It is clear that they tried, and did not do it on the dump. Personally, I didn't expect to replay the game, namely the feeling of the world, it was cool to see things like Shelter and Power Armor in reality. I would say that they created their own spirit, as each part of the series has its own atmosphere, and I consider it a success and even better than if there was a copy of some part. You're right, I hope we don't have FO4 SE/AE waiting for us now after this series?
@Sweet-Sweet: Thanks for the detailed comment! I somehow didn't even notice, but you're right, I don't remember such appeals in games, but in general, my lord is very correlated with the Order of chivalry, palladins, etc., so it fit in, in my opinion, organically.
>>I hope FO4 SE/AE is not waiting for us now after this series? ahaha, they have already announced a free update for the end of April with the long-awaited 60 signatures on the torrent gene and even a small quest line (something about the enclave), as I understand it, they rolled out a sale for the series.
@Skyscore: And thank you! :) And it just cut me, for those unfamiliar with the series, I think this will come like clockwork, but they have knights and paladins stupidly replacing ranks like sergeant, colonel and so on, they are not some kind of cosplayers... Okie Doki, so we are still waiting for SE/ AE :D
@Sweet-Sweet: "my lord" it seemed to be in a step-by-step tactic about the Brotherhood of Steel, I played it for a very long time and I don't remember exactly).
@Skyscore: I agree with every word, especially since expectations were slightly lowered after the Amazonian Rings of Power. And the result eventually surpassed them, which is very pleasing.😄
@Sweet-Sweet: >2. Is the brotherhood some kind of cult with monks? I'm glad that assholes, the canon is true here. Another fallout specialist who has only seen fallout 76. Knights, clerks, paladins, elders and other religious stuff didn't bother you in the games, but do men with censers bother you here?
By the way, I thought that the squires invented the series, but no, there were squires in the games too -- in particular, in the three-piece Maxon was a squire, and then the main military commander, elder and chief of the Pridven (in the four and beyond).
@NeverLoved: Wow, man, I didn't play 76 at all, you don't have to come up with it out of the blue. Are knights, clerks, paladins and elders religious in your opinion? It's medieval, feudal, if anything. And then, in the games it was only within the ranks, i.e. I do not remember that they addressed the knights as "my Lord", which they did in the series. And yes, there were no men with censers in the games, and yes, censers are religious, perhaps even Orthodox, I don't remember seeing this in Catholicism / Protestantism, but I'm not religious, so I won't say here in which branches of Christianity it is. But what you thought that the squires invented the series is just more likely to talk about you as insufficiently feigned, let's say, because yes squires are in games, it was not at all surprising.
@Sweet-Sweet: post-up is difficult to beat without cryo, just like intergalactic travel, so this is not another, but rather an alternative way to tie the plot after 200 years. just like the loss of a loved one is the only motivated option to leave a vanilla shelter with amenities. it's hard to imagine how a conditional random decided to walk around Pripyat for a couple of months, only if not for the sake of searching for a missing child
@AndreyDubrovsky: How did games up to 4 parts manage without cryo back then? Just as a relative does not have to disappear to leave the Shelter, we recall the same water chip at least. Of course, this is already a separate topic, but I think that it's high time for games to find some other way, and not to leave the Shelter every time, now the places of action are repeated, like there are no more states in America besides Cali, or even more so in other countries. Now we're going back to Nevada.
@Darth_Rexther: I know what was in the shelters there, I passed the first part in the year of its release. But it's one thing to experiment on the inhabitants, and another to bomb ourselves so that what?...
@lits: The site's security reacted to my link and deleted the comment, so I'll duplicate it just in case.
There is an opinion (seen on reddit) that the idea of a Volt-Tech dropping bombs came from a cancelled 2000s movie. It was planned even before the release of the second part of the game, and a draft version was written at the same time. In it, the creator (caretaker) of shelter 13 dropped a bomb and provoked a Great War. The full version of the script is online, including in Russian.
@gkalian: only it does not fit in with the corporate super profits that they allegedly wanted to recapture. the only variation is if they wanted to " advertise" a Fukushima-type bang on some 10k town, and the rest of the countries holding nuclear suitcases did not appreciate the marketing, and then the total fireworks began
@AndreyDubrovsky: In general, it seems to me that everything just did not go according to Volt Tech's plan, at least because the bombs fell when Coop and his daughter were at a birthday party. Although logically they should have been in the shelter, because Coop's wife was very important to their daughter.
@gkalian: in the first episode, two men discussed Coop, like how he got to this point, was a star, and now a children's toastmaster, and called him a commie. It was never shown, but it is assumed that he and this bug were discovered, they could have deprived him of a place in the shelter, maybe his wife too.
@gkalian: ///In general, it seems to me that everything just did not go according to Volt Tech's plan, at least because the bombs fell when Coop and his daughter were at a birthday party. Although logically they should have been in the shelter, because Coop's wife was very important to their daughter.///
Maybe the divorce factor?
At a children's party, it flashed through the conversation that the Cowboy needed to pay alimony. The sinister corporation has embarked on the next stage of its sinister plan. And one of the tops had a child in the wrong place. But, the plan is unstoppable.
The overall impression is good, it turned out to be an interesting season, I liked it.
Of the advantages, I am ready to highlight the maximum attention to detail in the world - decorations, various objects, TV commercials, comics - they were very meticulously transferred to the adaptation, it turned out perfectly. The music for the series was written by Ramin Javadi, but even without him, the series is full of cool compositions, like The Ink Spots – I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire.
Of course, the current state of the NKR and the way Shady Sands was treated were upset. In the morning, of course, I saw the stuffing of people from reddit, that retcon was made, something was canceled, but no. As a result, all the events that happened to the city were explained, saying who did it and why.
Some questions were raised by some computer chips inserted into the series. At the beginning, a machine gun cannot hit the doctor from the Enclave, then the paladin is caught on a hook, then the steam pack instantly heals all wounds. I understand that this may still work in games, but in the series it should be shown a little differently. Well, in the piggy bank of questions - it is not clear how Moldaver lived up to the events of the series, nothing was said about her cryofreezing.
Oh yes, the rejuvenation of McLachlan is some kind of shame, well, similar things have already been done in TV series, why it was done so terribly is not clear.
In general, this is not a film adaptation of any particular part, but it was pulled from a lot of places, as Sweet-Sweet noticed. There's a chip, and a father, and a freeze. Well, some locations are just a hodgepodge of Bethesda games, as if they wanted to please the fans of the games, but come on, it's not critical. As an adaptation of a series of computer games, it turned out quite well.
@gkalian: I was not upset by what happened to Shady Sands (well, that is, upset as a viewer, but there was no rejection of the plot). And moreover, I believe that the Obsidians are to blame for this, with their role-playing elements and choices. Which of the endings should be considered canon? for Dr. House, the NKR or the Legion? In general, even if the quests for the NKR took place in New Vegas, it says in plain text that the NKR has become sluggish, mired in corruption, has stopped caring about citizens for real. She, like the Brotherhood, has lost her ideals. And what would be the right plot move in this case? All empires fell, but many revived in a renewed, evolved form. And here we are shown the "good" NKR sheep fighting for a good goal, the remnants of their former greatness, with this cold fusion core. I think this is a logical development.
@Skyscore: Yes, Canon House should be the most appropriate choice. The NKR and the legion stand for each other. It is difficult for the player to work out his own character for everyone..and in fact, the player is the same for himself as for House, but the player instead listens to the robot 🤣
@Skyscore: Well, with the endings, you can do it easier - push events into the future and just present as a fact who now, at the time of the series, won. It's not as difficult as it might seem. It was more difficult for the studio at the time with the finals of Daggerfall.
In general, I agree, the NKR has really become a clumsy and complex machine, it's just that it started well.
@Сериальщик732: if you make house's choice a canon, New Vegas 2 should resemble a bioshock in its plot. After all, House is a classic Howard Hughes or "Atlant" Rand
@Skyscore: What difference does it make which ending of HB is considered canon? The NKR is the largest state entity, almost a million people, more than 100 years of history. And they show us that, having hit the capital with ~ 40k, it all just disappeared without a trace. Industry, agriculture, infrastructure, population, armed forces where? At least the leftovers. It was a settled, developed region. In the series, there is a standard garbage dump with the skeletons of WWII cars, as if the bombs fell a week ago, which gazebo likes to show the wasteland. Todd just took a good chance to erase the long-standing ent from black isle.
@fluffyevil: you are confusing something, not 40k, but about 34k, and there are no figures about a million anywhere. There are 700k forty years before NV, and in NV itself we are already seeing the sunset of the NKR, with ambitions for expansion, and plans to annex Vegas itself, and at the NKR base at the airport, Mccaran Hildern said that "interruptions in grain supplies are waiting for us, in 10-20 years", therefore and he sent us to a shelter with plants to get a vacation (I hope the canonical ending here is not to give him a vacation, because he's an asshole). Tired of hearing about Todd and the NV he hated, Todd always respected the original dilogy and admitted it more than once. He had great respect for Obsidians, who were not so white and fluffy (the eternal story about the lost prize due to two points on metacritic also filled his teeth)
@Skyscore: the first time I went for NCR, then I thought for a couple of days, went back and went for independent Vegas and made the whole enclave help me.
@Skyscore: I can Google numbers, thanks. The question is still different. Where are the traces of the existence of a state with a century-old history besides two billboards?
@fluffyevil: if you can, write correctly right away, what is the problem.. By the way, I don't understand what kind of environment you were waiting for. They showed that the collapse in shady sands happened in '77, that is, the crisis with the capital was even before the bombs were dropped, and somewhere in the 80s, a bomb was dropped. Why did the NKR forces have to stay in the bombed-out region? That would be the stupidity of the developers, not what you write. In general, arguing with an orthodox quasi-religious organization "Witnesses of the second Coming of Black Isle and Obsidian" is more expensive for yourself. You will add any little thing, well, like the glass outside the shady sands crater is not broken - everything is not canon, the gazebo is a sucker, a hack. A cold head should also be turned on sometimes
@Skyscore: One more time. After the explosion of one bomb, everything that had been created for a century disappeared from the region, and the standard post-war landscape returned? Are you seriously defending the moment now that no one has cleared the roads leading to the capital from the skeletons of pre-war cars? Well, since you suddenly enrolled me in a sect, I can't help but ask: how many folds did your tongue count on Todd's anus?
@fluffyevil: I didn't even switch to you, let alone to a person. And so I went through the comments of others to understand who I was dealing with, we really have nothing to talk about, even in such a neutral topic as folych
@Skyscore: by the orthodox quasi-religious organization "Witnesses of the Second Coming of Black Isle and Obsidia". That's about where you ran out of arguments and you moved on to discussing me, not the subject of the dispute. Another soy snowflake, which, being unable to defend its point of view according to the facts, turns to insulting the interlocutor, and, having received a natural response, screams about toxicity. You're ridiculous and pathetic. Oh, I'm sorry. YOU are ridiculous and pathetic :3
@fluffyevil: about the Orthodox - this is a reference to HB and House, about which we dispersed here with Sweet-Sweet, and I did not finish this, but began an argument with Drundel on the fourth series (a much more reasoned argument, by the way). There are many ways to get personal: - if I were an arrogant schmuck, I would go to your page, look at the ratings for your series and say "you're too flat a guy, what can I argue about?". But I didn't get personal, and I just say: when, in the terminology of Kinopoisk, there is 0% closeness of interests (except for wiretapping, and who doesn't like wiretapping?), constructive dialogue is possible only with mutual respect, and there is no smell of it here - if I were one of my kents, with whom we have been hanging out since the beginning of the noughties on (according to the level of toxicity of which you would be just the most obnoxious toots from kindergarten), they would go to your comments and say "you are typical like an ordinary dumb thrush", well, or just "suck it*Ca, friend". But what's the point? We're on the Internet, anyone can send it anywhere. This is not a personal dispute, where for a passage about the anus you can grab a fucking shovel; - if I were, as you say, a soy liberal, I would say that you are a scanty quilted jacket, violating other people's borders, but characters like you, this only provokes - at the very least, I would make a joke in response about the leasing services of your imaginary girl (imaginary - with a hint of incest, of course, with the show-off that quilted jackets are usually offended by life, and are looking for the realization of their greatness with turns "once again", "learn history", "it's clear, another soyboy / liberaha" and so on, but for some reason they still don't give them, and there are no real friends nearby), but I don't know, maybe you are already married and with children, all such a respected cupcake and just I like to get fucked up when someone is wrong on the Internet.;;
In other words, you've crossed the line a little bit. And I went into your comments and saw a pattern, a classic self-denying discourse. But I can't wax a piece of wax on the bottom step of the Graham pyramid for the sake of winning a random boor on the Internet - I won't have a defender from this anymore, but for God's sake, try, grow. You can put a bold dot on something very offensive even - I'm not sorry.
I will not answer you, but I will tell you what they read and may have the same question: - maybe it was not obvious, but I attacked not the personality, but the idea: fans of the original dilogy are biased - they were fascinated by the depth of the study of the world, having cemented the image of the world in their head. This image couldn't help but develop. So, for example, the sunset of the NKR was outlined in the unreleased Van Buren- it's not the amateur showrunners and Howard. The ending for House in NV is most likely canonical (which is a shame - he's an asshole) , they don't tell us ANYWHERE how many people and at what level of development the NKR (not shadisands) was before the bombing. We don't even know if all 30-odd thousand residents from this sign were destroyed by an explosion - they could have fallen off, it's just a sign. Stagnation has set in since the heyday in fallout 2, then the state of the center on vestkost is little known to us, what scattered cars and traces of agriculture, damn, farming should remain there - an open question. Of course, it would be desirable for showrunners to reveal this or at least not show it incorrectly in the second season, but so far there are no contradictions - even if the creators made a mistake and got it wrong (which, again, is not confirmed by anything), I believe that the issue with the remnants of the empire and the mandatory showing of this in the episode where we saw Shady sands is far away not central to lore. And in general, any such argument individually does not prove the stupidity of anyone, it only proves an error. With a critical mass of errors, reliability is violated, this was not the case here. Armed with this logic, you can calculate so many percentages for both the second foul and New Vegas, even if it's a disproportionate ratio of people (since we don't care about the restrictions in film production on props, why should we care about the limitations of the engines on which the games are made? It's unbelievable!)
"I'm not idealizing Howard's team, Black Isle, or the Obsidians. These are communities of talented people who are burning with their idea and have made great games. There are many pros and cons to each of these games. Each team made critical mistakes. But Howard's purchase of the franchise saved her and gave her a second chance. Not perfect. I, in an attempt to avoid confirmational bias arguments confirming my correctness, like to watch videos of "bethesda never understand fallout" or "Fallout dialogue comparison (Bethesda vs Obsidian)" - it's stupid to deny that there are no problems. It's stupid to idealize Todd. But still, if you try to fantasize what the third foul would be without the gazebo, I personally feel sad. This is if we judge, again, by Wasteland 2 or Pillars of Eternity, and try to imagine the completed Van Buren in the 15th year (or whenever they scraped it together) on one of these engines. Todd gave the series popularity, popular love, transferred it to modern (at that time!) equipment, revived it visually, gave the world volume (literally and figuratively). I remember the joy with which I went through the original dilogy in 05, but the sadness, because the future was depressing, and how I tried to get my classmates hooked on the series, but even then it was a game for mammoths
@Skyscore: The funny thing is that I've never seen anyone challenge the superiority of parts 1 and 2 over the subsequent ones. It's like this, maybe there are some who disagree with this, but I haven't seen them. The first two parts are concepts, ideological inspirers, well, just a Fallout in the flesh, so to speak, an ideal. I can understand those who could not continue to play, in full right, I can even understand those who would prefer the series to die on the 2nd part. What I can't understand is the need to constantly talk about it everywhere. I have this in one of the other series of games, I think that they messed up the series, well, I don't just play, the series is dead for me. In the case of Fallout, I understand that 3 and beyond is already "wrong", "cosplay on Fallout" and so on, but I didn't care and I'm personally glad that the series didn't die, everyone can kill the series for themselves, but it's unrealistic to revive the killed series within the individual. Accordingly, I also think it is very strange that someone thought that there was at least a chance that the series would be conditionally the first Fall, and not the fourth. From what? It's still a product, anyway, no matter how brilliant the first Fall was, you can't sell it anymore, well, without a remaster, that's for sure. If someone goes to the game after the series, then 90% will buy only 4, few people will get to 3 and Vegas, there is nothing to say about 1 and 2 parts.
@Sweet-Sweet: I add a big plus to everything, about the last point I just need to make a few clarifications: I went to steam charts now, the first foul shows a tenfold increase online by the beginning of the year. This is more than the rest of the series in percentage terms (two, three and four - five times, HB - three times), but in absolute terms, of course, not so: 4 (75k), NV (20k), 3 (6k), 1 (2.5K), 2 (1k). That is, 96.6% of the total mass of those interested went to the top four. With the caveats that this is online, not sales, and that this is only a PC (there are only four offline parts on the carrentgen). That is, I would absolutely say that 1% of users went to play from the beginning
@Skyscore: Thanks for the real statistics! Yes, it may still change, even not within a week, but in general for the duration of the "life" of the series. By the way, is everyone who went to 1 new players, maybe someone from the oldfages remembered, became nostalgic and decided to shake the old days? But even if this is real, all new players have expected statistics, I think the overwhelming majority would have gone to 4 anyway, even if they had filmed part 1, and then discontent would have begun that everything was wrong in the game))
@Sweet-Sweet: in my opinion, most of them are nostalgic owners of old copies. Another interesting infographic: troika and NV had a peak online in July 15th - before the release of the four, everyone watched the trailer and began to go through both parts. There are values 2 times higher than those that I indicated above, 10k and 30k, respectively. The deuce has the peak online in its entire history now, and the first one - in the 17th, when it was distributed for free on its twentieth anniversary.
> We don't even know if all 30-odd thousand residents from this sign were destroyed by an explosion - they could have dumped In general, it is known that some of them definitely fell off. At least according to the series, some of the survivors of Shady Sands are sweetly praying and smearing ashes in the 4th shelter
@gkalian: It is not clear how Moldaver lived up to the events of the series, nothing was said about her cryofreezing But after all, Mr. Twin Peaks to us with scary eyes for-foreshadow-il "oooh-oooh-oooh, she's really no different from me" when the three of them were chatting with Mr. It seems to me that this series handles its loaded guns too skillfully for them to just drop this line, so we are waiting for the second season.
@gkalian: I'll answer myself. Here Todd Howard and Jonathan Nolan gave an interview to IGN (I will not attach the links, otherwise the comment will be deleted again). So there they said that the idea to destroy the city came from the writers of the series and Todd was initially very surprised by this idea.
The events of New Vegas are canon (and no one threw anything away), and the inscription on the diagram "The Fall of Shady Sands" means the fall of the city in 2277, not the bomb itself. The bomb fell immediately after the events in New Vegas, the year was not named, but apparently it is 2281-2282 approximately.
This is a very good, really great Fallout 4, 76, for me it's even better than the original 4 and 76, but it's no Fallout. As if Blade Runner (1982) was filmed by Disney.
Cool! Yes, it's cool!! Todd's hand is noticeable, of course, but it even helped. For a fan of the franchise, it's fucking awesome. I read on the Internet that some smart guys thought that Vegas was deleted from the canon, but actually chronologically the series after it and F4 is already underway. It's just that apparently it wasn't Mr. House who won the battle for Hoover Dam (WHO WAS SHOWN HERE DURING HIS LIFETIME AND THIS!!!!!! WOW)
The densest 9/10. I just didn't have enough mutants, the super mutant was only shown a corpse in a piece, the Claws were teased only with a skull at the very end. I hope they will rehabilitate themselves in the second season.
We live in a great time, video game adaptations are amazing and cool. Old Uwe Ball must be in complete shock.
@mamkerink: WELL, THE THEME OF THE ENCLAVE IS UNDISCLOSED. I understand that President Eden on the Capital Wasteland has been destroyed for 20 years, but still! Well, the Brotherhood was exposed as outright degenerates. Not to say that they are straight handsome, but right now the border has completely blurred.
@mamkerink: I don't know what kind of brotherhood of steel there was in 1-2 parts. In 3, they are kind-hearted, but they are apostates there, those who are outcasts and trash collectors. Vegas endings, she's banal looters, robbers endings if they're alive, I'm not talking about the psycho Elijah at all. At 4, they look like technofascists with their Fuhrer. So , naturally , they are not particularly here .
@mbro: canon, even if you look at the screensaver of the last series, there is exactly the same design from the game, and I did not find any special contradictions to the events of NV
The Amazons have officially washed their all-round rings of power for me!
Straight fire, a lot of references, a lot of canon, gun battle scenes, rocket plot, the ending promises no less epic ties for the second season. Well, they can, when they want to!
@mbro: agree. The rings are normal, if you look at them as an independent work, and not endlessly compare them with the original or the films of Jackson, who could not, but took the Hobbit.
@Dark_Alice: well, we look at it with pleasure, and they compare everything with the original and play it up to the canon.
In general, I really love the claims "they were shot wrong!", which is very popular now.
Take, for example, the three-body theory book - so someone doesn't like the Chinese version, someone doesn't like the Netflix version, others shout both options are shit, not like in the book.
Well, don't look at what to do. The market probably has little to lose from the stifling condemnation.
As much as I liked the whole series, I didn't like the ending that much. Empty and uninteresting. Just as in Westworld Ed Harris was always going back and forth with clever arguments, so here the ghoul was walking around and always pushing things like that. Shame, may the director's fans forgive me.
@mbro: So this is the season finale, not the series. You might think that all the first seasons of the series end with something epic. It's a good ending here with a start for the second season.
@mbro: The modern fallout is an endless story, so it's strange to expect something intelligible from it. Only the first part had some kind of completeness, but it was very different from the current Arbor universe - there the dead world was finally dying, turning into something completely obscene, and the protagonist partially stopped this obscene, and it did not end well for him. And then there will be people, ghouls, brotherhood, then more super mutants will be brought in, maybe if you're lucky, everything will boil in an endless cauldron of fucked-up adventures.
I expected the worst, I thought it would be straight shit from the trailers. I was pleasantly surprised, good job. When is the second season planned there? P.S. I hope no one gets inspired from corporations and starts building shelters. ))))
It's a great season, I watched it in one breath. I especially liked that everything was thought out to the smallest detail. From the dialogues of the minor characters to the setting. I'm really looking forward to the second season🙌
The second game series that came to me, the first one was twisted metal. I only played the third and new Vegas games when they came out, not that it went down, but the atmosphere of naive fiction of the 50s went down. Here, too, according to the atmosphere, the robot brain is just what you need. The Ghoul line is straight buzz, pure Rory from Doctor Who
okie-dokie, that was good! A strange but compelling mix of thrash and fantasy. I liked that the level of cruelty and madness corresponds to the apocalypse. I looked at it in one breath. The music creates an awesome atmosphere. It's not a masterpiece, but it's very close to it.
As someone who has never played Fallout, the series actually seemed like a bomb, if you know what I mean. Overall, it's not a bad story, we're waiting for the second season)
No, actually, I'm not an ardent fan of everything related to foul — but this series, in my opinion, is a direct fierce hit on the topic.
To begin with, how we are introduced to Lucy — like, well, I pumped myself a perk for shooting, took dexterity, but did not gain strength. A Ghoul joke on the topic: "all sorts of shit will distract you on the way." Again, the idiocy of this final brainiac "stand still, I need to enforce the directive! Why it never works." And the scene in shelter 4 where such a... fuck... well... uh... But okay, I've already started a peaceful passage anyway, Soryan. Plus, this doctor with a choice, who exhausted my nerves in the first foul: "well, look, I can put cheap implants for you, or expensive ones," and you're like, no... Well, damn, I don't know what to choose. Well, it will definitely mess up! What to choose. And here this fucker is gorgeous too.
The only downside is that for some reason they did not do how the heroes vacuum the locations, taking cartridges from the corpses and checking all the garbage cans for whatever was there. Well, that's a plus... now this series is canon. What can I do (although the question is on the topic: we still don't know who blew it up first, we were just told that the business wanted to do it, but they never showed what they did)
It's a pity that they lost their humor by the end... From the second episode, everything gradually came to naught and slipped into another typical drama about saving dad. I am glad that the events take place after all the parts, i.e. what the brotherhood will do with infinite energy is at the discretion of the screenwriters and gives free rein to thought, and, also, does not bind to any part of the game.
Despite all the skepticism, I must say that the series came out very good, at least there is not a single episode where the plot specifically sags. Yes, there are annoying actions of the characters and stupid chewing of the main intrigue at the end, but otherwise everything is fine.
And as for the disadvantages, they all come from the games of the gazebo and the lore rewritten with it.
It's a good season. Four series were overclocked, four were driven. Overall, I am very pleased that I watched it. I didn't expect anything better, to be honest. No one caused rejection, interesting questions remained, we will wait for the second season and answers.
It was wonderful. Why couldn't the Witcher be treated with the same love? Or, if you throw stones into the Amazon garden, to the Rings of Omnipotence? After all, they can, they can, if they want to!
It turned out well. But in addition to the moments mentioned by the commentators above, there were not enough moments in the season of Death Claws and Super Mutants, I really look forward to their appearance in the second season😅
@Hidji: in the footage in which there was a clean CJ -- he looked just disgusting, so it's probably good that they didn't show super mutants and claws. This probably takes a little more time/ money.
I would like to write that it's cool, but still the impressions are mixed. On the one hand, the game was very coolly transferred to the series. On the other hand, they did not make a series, but rather transferred the game with all its conventions and assumptions. As a fan of the series, who played a bunch of months back in the first parts, I dreamed, of course, of seeing a film adaptation of my favorite universe, but unfortunately I saw the same glamorous post-apocalypse with laughs. The main disadvantage is that there is not enough pessimism, oppressive post-apocalyptic hopelessness, and the devastation that will follow a nuclear catastrophe. The visual is good, the universe was transferred in great detail, but the atmosphere that is felt during the game is not felt (I am silent even about the second part, it does not smell here). In short, I don't really believe it, although there were good moments in this regard. By the way, the inspection of shelter 32 just reminded me of Foul 2, something like that was in the spirit of the first parts :) But for a rather short moment. There are very few locations, so despite all the detail shown, they did not actually introduce the post-apocalyptic world itself. With a few exceptions, all secondary characters are as secondary as possible and do not play any role, you immediately forget about them. In fact, they showed the drama of the main storyline, that's all, and the world of the game is much deeper.
In general, I do not regret that I looked, and I expected a worse result, but I cannot say that it is noticeably catchy. However, I will be happy to watch the sequel.
@verolom: The problem is that if you film Fallout properly, it will be a nuclear mix of Dune Villeneuve, Blade Runner, and Terminator Salvation, only even darker and more hopeless. It is unlikely that this will be able to sell.
@lits: Maybe I don't know. I would definitely look at this :)
There is a good (as for me) example of a film adaptation - The Last of Us. Perhaps there is not as much in common with the game as in Foul, I did not have time to play, but the series itself came out atmospheric and exciting. And quite deep, since the locations are well developed there, not only visually, but also in terms of participation in the plot.
In the Foul, almost everything seemed rather superficial. The location is kind of big, but they use literally a couple of scenes in some parts. Except that during the inspection of Shelter 32, there was a slight smell of a second Foul :) For example, when Coop and Lucy met the ghoul in the hospital, they showed the entrance to the hospital and the room with the ghoul. In the last location (the Observatory), they showed essentially a courtyard from above and a room with essentially all the main characters. Yes, the visual is very good, but there is no sense of volume, complicity, like some kind of sitcom :)
P.S. More action scenes are some kind of Bollywood :)
@verolom: I agree with many things. Well, this is the legacy of the 4th and 76th Follies, you can't go anywhere. I don't know about Lastofas, I'm not a fan at all, I'll see when / if they make a deepfake with the face of another actress. I watched the first episode, it didn't go far, I shook it further, I got the impression of some kind of studio series a la Sabrina (in terms of budget and quality of semka in the sense), only a post-episode
@lits: I got used to the actress after a couple of episodes :)))) The beginning was so-so, but then more or less normal. Not a masterpiece, but still, compared to the Foul, it is somehow more atmospheric and exciting.
I have only a few questions about the season: 1) how did the main training program live up to this time? Was she frozen by wolves? Why would they do that if she was against them? Did you freeze yourself? Whose resources? An enclave? It is still not explained 2) why did she fuck up synthesis? Like, so that everyone has energy? Like bs won't hide, well, bs has captured this generator, who prevents them from blocking everything back now? 3) why was the ghoul looking for a thief, they weren't enemies in the past, she just showed him the truth about his wife. So I also killed two guys to find out where she is. 4) why is there such a strange cult in shelter 3, again, of this formulation? It is clear that she was an important person in the SHS, but still strangely they almost had an orgy there. 5) why did she leave Lucy's mom in such a state? Like I loved her, but why make her suffer? Peek-a-boo? 6) well, last but not least, again regarding this lady, we are kind of told at the end that she is actually good, so why would she and some fierce raiders kill a bunch of peaceful people in Lucy's shelter if she could just as well tell all the locals the truth / just steal the caretaker without blood. Were there raiders or homeless people from the NKR with her, or are they raiders?
In short, this woman is the main one who left the most mysteries behind, died and that's it for now.
@AtomicTroll: The good thing about the fallout is that you can make any nonsense, and it will be canon. There are a lot of illogical psychos on the Wasteland, so this is the norm.
Seriously. The 1-5 question has no answer, I hope that they will explain it to us in the second season. Regarding the 6th question, there is not even anything to say. Nothing is clear at all. Why did the 32 shelters kill each other? The experiment was connected only with the appointed managers, and not with psychotropic drugs. Maybe this madam is just evil, and you shouldn't look for morality in her. The fact that at least someone is alive is already good. Yes, figs knows him in general.
@SmilePS: And that's right. That's why I don't like the fourth part. The factions are flat and linear, kill all or kill all. The series has the same problem
@AtomicTroll: This is a popular "grey morality" nowadays. But the screenwriters don't understand how it works. And the result is simply a lack of motivation and meaning.
@SmilePS: I think in 32, as in 33, there was a crop failure, probably orchestrated, and in 32 people were fed human flesh without their knowledge, and then they found out and the massacre began. It's not a fact that there was no such thing at 33, just no one found out.
@IIIelKot: The fact that they were fed human flesh is most likely so, there were hints of it. But it's still not enough to start killing each other. I think it was not without drugs.
@AtomicTroll: 2) Well, yes, so that everyone has it. And why should the Brotherhood block it, if there is, like, eternal energy? You don't have to be greedy about it. Although, with that grandfather and his arguments about power... 3) Didn't the Ghoul want to find out from her where his wife was going? He seemed to be saying something like that. 4) Maybe she promised them eternal energy? 5) Probably so that there is proof of Hank's lies. And the feral ghoul seems to lose his mind completely, there is nothing left to suffer.
@nclsf87: 3. He asked his father, but he is looking for a wife, yes. And she is most likely frozen in the 31st 4. She, kmk, adopted "mutants" (and the offspring of those crosses in the 4th volte) as normal members of society. I gave fusion the reactor and didn't touch them.. Maybe that's why they orgasm.
The squad of the Brotherhood of Steel, who had just broken into the room with a fight, sees a ghoul, and instead of immediately shooting him, (ghoul is abomination as mentioned earlier in the series, the brotherhood does not tolerate any xenos, plus this is a war zone actually) Everyone listens to his rant in unison. The ghoul turns off the lights, and they're like, "I can't see shit!" Hello, you have a flashlight on your helmet! It is in the game, in 4 parts, there are even modifications with night vision. No, we're going to panic and shoot into the dark. And the whole series is full of such stupidity. Everything is OK, the design is cool (well, in terms of matching the game at least), the actors are good, I don't care that the ENT is remade somehow, some events don't fight there, they would be a joke with him. But why is there such a bottom in the script?
@drundel: is this the most important thing that you remember in the end? Yes, my dear, you are a nitpicker. Do you probably love badcomedians too, relish when you find inconsistencies and blunders? There is nothing more banal than a cliche about the stupidity of screenwriters, in my opinion. It's a great moment! Who cares why they stopped? Maybe he broke their template, stood up outrageously, in a Western way. For the same reason that in movies they run ahead in shootouts, and do not hide in shelters 99% of the time, as in real life
@Skyscore: In general, I personally also cringed with a lantern, and this was almost in the first episode, when this Titus and Max went into the cave, like, man, you have a lantern in your helmet, turn it on. And in this series, it really was an out. But about the ghoul, yes, I think you can believe that they were taken aback by his arrogance and did not react immediately.
@Skyscore: Are you following me now on Chi sho's comments?)) Actually, except for the action in the middle, there was nothing else to watch in this series. No, I also remembered the crazy denouement about the fact that vault-tec themselves took America and Shady Sands, with some idiotic motivation of the horse level in the bathroom with cucumbers, even the Lord from the first foul made more sense. Blunders are excusable, but not when the whole plot is based on them. Yes, logic in the script is important to me, and what, is it now condemned? so much so that they even came up with a new word? Perhaps for people who have a range of attention of no more than 15 minutes, it's OK, just look at the picture, do not delve into anything, do not ask questions. Well, there is a lot more content for such people. The stupidity of screenwriters is a cliche precisely because the trend towards stupidity is progressing.
@Sweet-Sweet: about the cave: to turn on the lantern - to give himself away, for the same reason, he himself, stuffed, did not go first, but let Sancho Panza in his own. Titus was a pussy
@Skyscore: Aah, listen, well, perhaps this explains the cave, it's just that he kind of went there with him too, so it seemed strange that he didn't turn it on, but if he wasn't going to go further than the entrance, then yes, it makes sense.
@drundel: gt;Are you stalking me now by chi sho's comments?))
if it bothers you, I won't do it anymore) I just read all the comments on the series, my eye caught on.
>the crazy denouement about the fact that vault-tec themselves took America and Shady Sands is not true, I repeat, it was never claimed anywhere that Vault-tec bombed America - only had such an intention, and not the fact that he managed to implement it. A bunch of docks in the terminals of the first fouls tells us not only about expos, but also about connections with all major corporations, first of all, RobCo, REPCONN and the government. about bombing Shady Sands - the NKR is the main political force after the destruction of the enclave, if the goal of Vault-tec is world domination in post-military America, what's wrong with this motivation? And along the chain - already the blunders that you are talking about do not break the plot, do not contradict the canon.
@drundel: >The trend towards stupidity is progressing. this cognitive distortion used to be better. Let's open the list of TV series of the 90s and look at the number of works with a good story. And not just by the number, but by a fraction of the total number. It's insignificant, offhand early Sorkin, Lynch, Simon, in the late 90s - HBO came and distributed it to everyone. Yes, now netflix is chopping content, not art, based on algorithms, with cliffhangers and a liquefied structure, but it essentially lured away all the same productions that created the same consumer goods for broadcast channels. In the book Amusing ourselves to Death (1985), Neil Postman complains that TV killed a complex narrative structure - they say, at a time when newspapers were the main medium, dialogue and the length of passages in it resembled newspaper columns in structure - it was easy for people to communicate like that because they consumed information so much. Everything was shortened with the advent of the telegraph, and then, with radio and TV, it was generally vulgar and stupid. Many reviewers say that in the era of Twitter and tiktok, it is more than relevant that people have stopped perceiving the text. Okay, maybe it is, another question is what to do about it? Howl at the moon, how stupid is everyone? Inadequate. To require the creators of multimillion-dollar franchises to make lengthy monologues on plausible backgrounds? For me, it all reminds me of the fight against windmills.
The last thing about the foul show and the writers is imagine that your task is to please fans of isometry, fans of the gazebo, new Vegas, newcomers who have not played in the franchise, not contradict the upcoming fifth part (and Howard misfired them a lot with this) and at the same time make a fresh fascinating story in a vacuum. Does it really seem legitimate to you to use the word "stupidity" in the aspects that you have cited?
@Skyscore: No, this is not a cognitive distortion of "it used to be better" and not my senile grumbling. We conducted studies with data from just under a million people with IQ tests from the 70s to the 2010s, which showed that the general intelligence of people is steadily decreasing every generation. It remains to be seen why, and what contribution modern technology has made. Personally, it seems to me that with things like ChatGPT, the dullness will accelerate even more. This is confirmed by the very fact of the popularity of the tick-tock format, and what kind of content is most popular there.
@drundel: therefore, there is not only a Matrix, where people of the future can visualize binary code from the screen, but also an Idiocracy, where there is also a high-tech future, but in the mass of degenerates who cannot even read). And recent trends are tipping the scales more towards the second type of development😁
@drundel: you talked about the trend towards stupidity in the context of the script and the screenwriters, and I answered you the same thing - how, with the progressive stupidity of the screenwriters, the number of well-written works does not decrease, but increases?
About the study - can I have a name? myshous does not like links, but I have not seen this. I saw a study where IQ decreased in Norway from the 60s to the 90s, based on environmental factors (agenda, as you say), and the general trend to increase IQ from the 70s globally by 0.22 points every year. It is interesting to look at the correlation in the context of developed and developing countries, etc. I would superimpose these graphs on life expectancy, on quality in different countries, on mental health and the level of emotional intelligence (which is no less important and more difficult to measure).
I do not deny the problems - I myself see wild schools completely, in well-off areas, in good clothes, and I think "we were not like that". Now very disturbing videos on YouTube are increasingly appearing from friends in our country, in Europe, and in the USA. Teachers, unlike politicians, who always blame violence in games, look at families and the indifferent attitude of parents, at the infantilism of millennials. The parents who are accused, in turn, throw stones at smartphones and tik-tok (as in the tenth they threw in anime, in the noughties in nickelodeon, in the nineties - in teletubbies, eternal history).
I'm not saying that there is no problem, but the reasons have little to do, in my opinion, with the plastic armor in the fallout series, or with the shiny trinkets. Or in chat gpt, calculator, internet, smartphone and more. It's just that the strategy of grumbling at stupidity doesn't work. Try to show by your example the viability of a reasonable approach to the life of a young growth - this works, but it is not such a trivial task.
@Skyscore: The negative Flynn Effect: A systematic literature review, for example, you can Google, there is a review of research, some show an increase, some decrease. The conclusions say that most likely the Flynn effect follows a parabola, that is, at first the intelligence of the population grows, reaches a peak and then falls. "with the progressive stupidity of the screenwriters, the number of well-written works does not decrease, but increases" - Firstly, the number of good works can increase in absolute values, while decreasing as a percentage of all works, because more and more content is being produced. Secondly, it is unclear what is considered a good job and by whom. For example, you think this series is a good job, but I don't. Not in terms of the script exactly. The reasons are not related to plastic armor and trinkets, of course not, these are not causes but effects. Why bother with the script, if they already do, and even ask for supplements. And any kind of mind like the same Expanse is not needed by anyone and is closed due to lack of ratings.
@Skyscore: "a fresh and fascinating" story is a big word :) It was interesting to me as a fan of Foul, but it was not enough exciting. I do not know how it could be done to please everyone, but the implementation that we have seen is weak in itself.
@drundel: I read the research, there are two reasons called: genetics (parents from a population with a lower IQ tend to transmit a worse IQ) and society (an environment with a low average hospital IQ does not contribute to an increase in IQ in individuals). And although the conclusions themselves are neutral, they can be wrapped up in any direction as arguments. In general, to be honest, I dislike IQ as a concept, it always goes into eugenics, then into discrimination against immigrants, then into banal arrogance on the ground. But okay, even if we talk about the cognitive abilities of society for good purposes, how can the conclusion "IQ drops " be used as an argument about the series dumb? The script is a multilaterally complex thing that is rewritten ten times (and in such complex projects, I'm sure that much more) It's like an algorithm. I don't see how your criticism of the Fallout will stimulate you to consume more complex content, unfortunately - but I can easily imagine how it will anger and set you against. But okay, something has become very stuffy, I will suffer a dialectical fiasco with the lexeme "I see that we cannot have a smart conversation"))
@Skyscore: It became stuffy 10-12 comments ago. What sadness do I have as a viewer, how many times has the script been rewritten if there is a hat on the way out? You got to me yourself, rushed to defend this piece of content from my unfair criticism, as if it turned your milk sour. I thought the question in the root comment of the branch was rhetorical, but if exaggerated, the series is dumb because people get dumb. At the same time, I do not propose to do anything about it. Where did you get the idea that my task is to "stimulate someone to consume more complex content"? I just wrote my opinion about the series on a dedicated page. This opinion will not affect anything or anyone, it will not be read on Amazon and nothing will be corrected, other viewers with exclamations of "Omg! He opened our eyes!" they will not run to imdb to give bad ratings to the series. Those who haven't watched the series yet, especially won't see my opinion, because here are the comments for the season finale. I agree - I put a plus, I disagree - I stuck a minus and went on. If there is something to discuss, you can discuss it, but pour it from empty to empty and for some reason prove to me why I should like what I don't like, of course there is no point and it's better to finish.
A rather intriguing plot of the series (and, accordingly, a series of games, it would be necessary to check it out), I did not expect that it would take so long! After the film adaptation of The Last of Us, I thought that I would not see anything better, and this plot is straight good, although I will not say that it is better and more interesting for me than TLoU, they certainly differ in many parameters and storytelling lines. The characters are interesting, everyone has their own story and their development is interesting to watch.The only thing that scares is the noseless face of this Ghoul actor, it's just creepy to look at him. He also does this kind of tin with everyone ... Cruelty and bloodlust in this series do not take, but it is understandable in this context. Mankind has a sad story, no matter how you look at it. I'm waiting for season 2, I hope it will be just as exciting and tell you more about the fate of the characters and the world as a whole
@Rin_Rin: In my opinion, there is much more meat and tin in games, which is why I personally love them, but I don't know if Cooper shocked you. You can play as a conditional Lucy, of course, but there will be tin around, even stupidly there are some raider or super mutant locations that are all littered with guts and body parts. It is clear that quests with varying degrees of tin are also available. The ghoul here generally only has a nose and differs from a human, they showed others more similar there.
Oh, I see, thank you for warning me about the games, I will know what to prepare myself for before watching (unfortunately, I am more a quiet observer of how others play, I rarely go through anything myself). I am always shocked by the hardness and bloodiness, especially now, when you are literally in the epicenter of the apocalypse🫠But nevertheless, sometimes I take risks and watch horror movies, games, sometimes such an emotional shake-up is sobering. Cooper actually sobered up and reminded what people are like in such conditions of survival;)
@Rin_Rin: You're welcome) Of course, I would still advise you to play in this case, and not to watch, it's an RPG, playing you can make some other choice than the person you are watching. And it's been difficult to shock me for a long time, and yes, the more shocking content you consume, the higher your tolerance for this in the end, that's why I warned you right away, so to speak, "fear in the unknown", if you know what to expect, then it shouldn't be so shocking anymore. Cooper, imo, this is what at least half of the population would be like in a similar situation, it's easy to reason from the couch that you would never do that...
Sweet-Sweet, yeah, I understand that it's really better to go through the game than just to watch, but that's how it turns out — I still won't open my downloaded Life is strange and Alice Madness on PC, at least I can crawl to them😂There are also plans for Detroit ... about shock and fear of something-what's scary is that I crossed the threshold of being afraid to watch the works of Yorgos Lanthimos, but so far I've only watched a couple of films, it's still morally hard to watch this, even though it's art🫠About Cooper again, I support))
in my opinion, the undeniable advantage of the series is that the average daily online of the entire series has grown. Considering that remakes of ALL parts on the Fallout 4 engine (including even Fallout 76 offline) are currently in development by fans, I think they will now be abandoned in the development process of these remakes. If they all came out, I would probably advise a beginner to start with a remake of 1, 2, 3, HB, and then go through 4. It is difficult in your right mind to advise an unprepared player today from the start with the original first foul. But they haven't come out yet, alas, and they may waste another couple of years.
Therefore, I would recommend buying on PC 3, NV and 4 (there are sales on steam right now). I would suggest starting with the third one - even if you end up liking new Vegas or the four more, it will be much easier to go like this. Be sure to download the Fallout3 WinXP patch from nexusmods com-7-8-10 Multicore Threading 4GB LAA with 4GB FOSE Setup - otherwise it will be blunted and crash, and enjoy a smooth game with it. By no means play on ps3, this is the most terrible port of both 3 and NV
@Rin_Rin: Я бы Alice посмотрела, а в Фолл поиграла, если такой выбор стоит, в Алисе нет ни выбора, ничего, тупо заставки даже посмотреть достаточно для понимания, но тут конечно на вкус) Детройт у меня тоже пылиться на компе хаха Может быть как вариант посмотреть что-нибудь что не искусство, а тупо слэшер или в чем конкретно загвоздка, чтобы терпимость поднять, так потом и искусство уже проще смотреть будет? Рада что на счет Купера понимаете о чем я :)
I really liked the series, I'm waiting for the second season. I didn't understand or missed watching it - and whose head was dragged all season, did he escape from where? Like from an enclave or an institute? And in general, is there an institute in this time period or has it already been destroyed? And it's a pity the synths weren't shown here.
@DiKEY999: С Анклава. А что у нас канон что Институт уничтожен, чтоли? По-времени как я поняла после всех игр происходит, по-крайней мере после четверки, про 76 хз что там.
Where is that damn ghoul? I love the Fallout universe so much. I was really looking forward to this series. And after watching it, I was satisfied. Even at the end, an enthusiastic "wow" flashed through my head. I am very glad that we have transferred a lot and conveyed the atmosphere of the games. But there will always be dissatisfied ones, because there are ardent fans of the first Fallout who do not like the second one because there is too much humor there. Someone will be outraged, in their opinion, by too plastic armor. And lemon is too sour for someone. People, such people. And the war. War never changes …
@plalex: we'll probably find out about this in a year from the second season. I suspect that the grandmother will go back to freeze and send another manager instead of herself, who will have to solve this problem)
По итогу, очень бы хотелось узнать мнение Кейна, Боярски, Тейлора, Кэмпбелла и, особенно, Авеллона, на каком органе они вертели Тодда за такое обращение с бережно выписанным ими лором вселенной.
@fluffyevil: I don't know which one yet: Kane, of. youtube: the first 2 episodes, very praises Avellon, of. tweeter: so far, he just asks not to spoiler him , the rest are silent
At one time, the game did not attract me much, so I thought that I would watch the series in the background, but then I got stuck! I looked at it during the day and I don't regret anything) In some places, it even seemed that the development in the series was so dynamic that I would like it more than "one of us" (Which had a lot of stuffiness. Please don't throw tomatoes 🥲)
The only irritant for me was an absolutely cardboard Maximus with an eternally offended face, it constantly seemed that he was about to cry. I was mad at him all season and in the end I was glad when he seemed to have died. And he's not dead :(
In general, I'm really looking forward to the new season!
@_Obscene_show: What kind of game is it? Otherwise, in fallout, each game is very different from the previous one. The last of us is so miserable and boring that the igrofilm on YouTube looks more interesting. We would have reshot the cut scenes from the game 1 in 1 and it would have been a good series. The Fallout series is better by all accounts. Still, to remove various illogical stupidity. However, the series here is such that maybe in the second season it will be justified somehow and it doesn't seem to be stupidity anymore.
@ppcpc10: honestly, I don't remember exactly, maybe part 4 ... played about 6 years ago on ps4, all my memories) The game may be normal, but it didn't go to me then)
I advise everyone to watch the video on YouTube "The Fallout Show Did't Retcon New Vegas" from TKs-Mantis, where he addresses almost every claim made here
The series is just a cannon, here you have both folders and corporations, a bunch of fanservice, no annoying agenda, for those who played games - the series will come to you, especially the last shots of this series ;)
I laughed with transukha in the ranks of the Brotherhood, thank you. If we take into account their zero tolerance to all kinds of mutants, for example, ghouls, then the presence in their ranks of a biological woman with a mustache and hairy legs, sitting tightly on injections of male hormones, looks, to put it mildly, not very appropriate for Laura :D
I can't understand why you thought she was trans? In the post-apocalypse world, shaving machines are not imported, they live in a hot shower, not knowing why she would look like Lucy?
@HoldenWisdom: probably because it is, the original had the pronoun they.. It's also unfair that I didn't really catch up with where the trannies came from in the post-shock
and I just thought in the context that if you live in a "brotherhood" from a conditional childhood and there is only the male sex around, then you will start to feel like a man too, if you want to :')
@ekdmi: In the Brotherhood, even if you do not take into account the non-canonical Tactics, there were always female characters. They are xenophobes and mutant haters, but they have nothing against women, it seems, if they are really women, and not an additional gender.))).
@Hidji: /// in the Brotherhood...there were always female characters /// /// they don't have anything against women, like///
I just wanted to ask you a question. And in the game, the Brotherhood has no celibacy vow. Well, all these religious teachings like that. Fast, read Our Father twenty times and so on.
@Citokos: I have no idea. And during my acquaintance with the games of the series, starting with the release of the first part, it did not even occur to me to be interested in such things. What for? There were definitely knights and squires, but such details are unimportant to me, and I'm not sure that they were in the games.
In general, it turned out so-so. As a fan of the series, I initially expected that there would be the same obscenity as fallouts 3-4. I was not disappointed. 1. Dumb dialogues, plot and characters. It's immediately clear that bethesda and Amazon had their hands on the series (the recent guys won't let you lie), so such a low level of quality. 2. About the transukha as part of the Brotherhood of Steel organization, which is extremely intolerant to mutants and all kinds of deviations, I already wrote above, it's still funny. 3. I don't like Rick and Morty, so hearing Jerry's voice in Shelter 4 was like a blade on glass. 4. The very arch of Shelter 4 is absurd and devoid of any meaning - I consider it a filler. 5. Too much retro music and too little ambient. Fallouts 3-4 are similarly overloaded with such music, which, in comparison with f1-2, somewhat spoils the atmosphere. But it never happened to enjoy the talent of Ramin Javadi, really. 6. The character of Goggins is somewhat contradictory and illogical. He is an obvious villain - in particular, he kicked the unfortunate kid off the farm in front of his bati - so his alliance with Lucy at the end looks somehow wrong. Well, it's clear that he was playing some kind of character of his own, and not Fallout's. 7. The escape of Benjamin Linus looked very funny - in the scene with the turret, which could not hit him at point-blank range, they probably wanted to show how well he pumped Dexterity :D 8. The actor playing Maximus, well, no one at all. 9. The choice of equipment for shooting is not very clear - there are a lot of aberrations, blurring at the edges, the picture is not very good. They probably wanted it for the atmosphere, but I didn't appreciate it.
@bogdansky9000: I'll add it. 10. A comic doctor with a bunch of drugs, including for gulification - so-so, the level of humor is not very high. But we are dealing with bethesda, so see paragraph 1.11. Disappointed with the appearance of New Vegas - as for me, one of the most boring stories in the universe.
@bogdansky9000: 2. The brotherhood has become, in principle, very strange portrayed. Even if, like, they've already gone into moral decay and everything has fallen down. Some schmucks who can't even afford to make normal toilets. It seems that they are trained to be assistants to paladins, but no one knows what to do and what awaits them. 6. Well, the Ghoul has been looking for a family for 200 years. His wife and daughter are apparently also frozen in some kind of shelter and he wants to find them. Over the years, he has clearly changed a lot and on the way to this goal, it is not necessary for some kid from the farm to take revenge on him and stop him. Lucy is not a competitor to him, you can somehow use it for your own purposes, well, like he got into it like the daughter he is looking for. Like in The last of us, a frostbitten man who calmly kills people right and left eventually gets closer to a girl, because he had a daughter, etc.
I would say that an incomprehensible series has been released. And not as obvious trash and fumes as Twisted Metal. It seems that there are interesting moments with the same 31 shelters. But just for fun they take and add shelter 4. It's impossible to look at it seriously. Well, still, it's a fallout cosplay, like all the themed products of the Gazebo. With nothing to do, you can look like a Mandalorian. It could have been much worse, it's quite watchable here. Actually, I put all series 3 on, because it's not really junk, but there's nothing to admire either.
@bogdansky9000: 6. Злодей? Chaotic Neutral скорее. Пацаненок сам на него набросится собирался, что он должен был делать по-Вашему? Вырубить его и уйти? Почему он так напрягаться должен не понятно. Злодей бы убил всю семью, че уж там.
@Sweet-Sweet: an unambiguous villain. I went into the dude's house, starting with the capture of his young daughter, and then stupidly hit the youngster in the sternum in front of his folder, provoking the guy to PvP. The ghoul just wanted to fill up the kid, so no sympathy, it's corny. We would like to portray him as more human - we would let him, yes, stun the guy, or with a deft shot knock the gun out of his hand, Ganslinger. Even the Shrike from the Chronicles of Predatory Cities has more humanity. Dad is also a vegetable - instead of slapping his son on the head and thereby saving him, he just stood and watched, although, according to the ghoul, he had participated in shootouts with him earlier. A strange scene, in general, I did not enjoy such character development.
@bogdansky9000: if he had participated in a shootout, he would have been a corpse) he said that his lead was still in it, perhaps hinting at his line of work, and they collect lead bullets and melt them down
@bogdansky9000: Зашел в дом = нейтрально. "Захват дочки" выражался в том, что она ему ужин накрыла = нейтрально. "Бабахнул юнцу в грудину" - юнцу который собирался или прямо на выходе ему в спину выстрелить или через несколько лет прийти с местью, Купер все это увидел в нем, поэтому и "спровоцировал", считаю это уже тупо самозащитой = нейтрально. Допустим он его оглушил и ушел, оставив в живых, дальше что? Пацан находит его через какое-то время и стреляет в спину, это что за развитие персонажа будет? Просранное имо, он же именно что приспособившийся к пустоши, убей или будь убитым, в Вашем варианте он бы выбрал быть убитым. Папаша как я понимаю не увидел того, что увидел Купер, а именно что пацан на него сейчас набросится, поэтому папаша на полном серьезе думал что все норм. Я считаю что хорошая сцена, вот представить что я этот пацан и как Вы сказали завалился этот чел в дом, рассказал что убил брата. Неужели я могу просто так дать убийце брата уйти? Даже если это будет стоить мне жизни? Тут каждый для себя должен ответить, я пацана понимаю, но и исход закономерный учитывая ситуацию. Мог бы промолчать и выжить, но смог бы он жить зная что поступил как трус и дал убийце брата просто уйти? Почему и говорю что Купер не злодей, потому что мог после пацана еще и его отца с сестрой тоже порешать, вдруг тоже мстить пойдут или еще чего, но в них он этого не увидел, т.е. не убивал просто ради убийства.
@bogdansky9000: Retro music is awesome. You just have no taste for disliking it 🤣 The juxtaposition of the uppity wholesome "golden age" music over the savage reality of post-apocalypse world provides a much needed contrast
@Aeolide: my comment is not about that. The video sequence is overloaded with this retro music, as it was in Fallout 3 and Fallout 4. There is no contrast, because with this approach it turns out a moronic mess for old tracks. Play Fallout 1-2, which, unlike 3 and 4, have the status of " legendary" - you will understand what it is about. There, by the way, retro tracks were played only in the intro and outro, and the rest of the time the atmosphere was pumped up with high-quality ambient.
What a charm, there are so many fans of the Fallout universe in the comments))))
Honestly, I'm thrilled with the first season. Despite very minor flaws or lapses, the creators exceeded all expectations. Respect and gratitude. I'm waiting for the banquet to continue)))
The season turned out to be great. Characters, costumes, development, graphics - everything is great. There will obviously be a second season, and I'm really looking forward to it. In general, it is rich, beautiful and interesting
I can't say that I'm thrilled, but overall I liked the series, it's interesting and sticky. I liked the atmosphere and the look, the details and the music. The characters, on the whole, are not bad either. I will definitely watch the sequel, I hope that it will be officially extended soon, if it has not been extended yet))
With all my love for HBO projects, but this is the best game adaptation! I watched with pleasure, the references were pleasing, and they didn't even look mediocre! There were, of course, various mistakes, but I just forgot them, because I enjoyed the series! Well, Ramin Javadi is as good as ever! In the end, I also thought, it's a pity that this is a TV series, I would have played such a story myself! Well, New Vegas at the end is just wow! And what about the dog???
The series came to me. I love intrigues, but there were a lot of them here, it's good that most of them were revealed at the end of the season. But I'm a little disappointed that the main intrigue in the end turned out to be cryo-cameras, I didn't like this idea in the 4th fallout, at least there were no synths
I expected the worst, but it turned out to be good. In general, I love folk, I skipped the first parts by age, the third is in my heart forever. As the Guardians of the Galaxy game turned out to be a full-fledged igrofilm, so this series turned out to be a filmgame with 95% hits in the details. I saw very few references: a shepherd dog and a boy in the refrigerator, and a revived volt-boy. Experimental shelters are default, like ghouls, like kernels, ncr and caps. So personally, I didn't have enough plot intersections with games anymore. These hooks would take up 5% of the timekeeping, but at the expense of memories they created a deeper dive. I didn't like the open landscapes. Of the familiar mutated animals, only cockroaches. 8 episodes, but the season is not much remembered, it seems to be a reference these days, but the common goal of all the minor main characters somehow belittles their importance. Again, wishes: more independence, like in Game of Thrones, when the Snow guards the Wall, the Lanisters have their own worries. And so they are companions with a very poorly developed motivation, well, it is impossible for an hour of ethereal relationships to go a full-fledged path from "I'll kill you " to "come with me", too deliberately. Here is the same cowboy, damn it, he ran half the film after his head, then after the heroine, if his claim is in the end: "where is my family" - released into the air by her father. Why did he exchange it with two suckers in the market, if in his perception it is the main key and a guide for communication with a person of that era. How, after living 200 years in the wasteland, he does not know where the observatory is located and who lives there, there is also a whole city that the incubator girl found in 2 accounts.
@AndreyDubrovsky: "having lived for 200 years in the wasteland" after all, his storyline in the series did not begin at all with the fact that he was sitting in a coffin? Why would he need Lucy to get information from her father? He didn't give him any information with her either, just left her there and ran away.
@NyanQt3_14: I agree about the coffin, but the fact that he knows all the non-irradiated NPCs reduces his underground captivity to a maximum of several years. plus, it caused confusion as a woman who drowns for cold fusion, light in all the houses of the wasteland, in fact world peace, shot half of 33 shelters for the sake of capturing the caretaker, who was silent all season, and in the end, without torture and proper motivation, gave out all the passwords in a minute, when in fact they could just take him away a daughter under the resettlement program after marriage. In general, visual is the least of the problems nowadays, but with the story, script and plot in such a rich world with a lot of loyal fans, they could have done much better
@AndreyDubrovsky: initially, he grabbed Lucy to bring him to the head, but when she broke his medicine by the pond, he had to change his main quest, score on his head and go to the hospital - there was no medicine there; he went to drug addicts, where he had to sell the girl, since the medicine for survival is more important to him than his head or his own There was no family at that moment. He said at the end that he had heard her last name, but it took him a moment to realize that her last name was the last name of the same person from the past; so he did not see any key in it. It was only in the final that the puzzle came together when I saw her and her dad directly.
About the massacre in Volta, she came pretending to be a raider and with a gang of raiders. Perhaps the disguise meant that it was necessary to kill someone, but the raiders - don't get it. Or maybe she just considered the residents useless NPCs who are not important for her story and goals (the lives of several dozen for the lives of many and all that). Otherwise, she would have just come on her own behalf.
@SherLoki: So what would be the point if he got that head? He needed the bespectacled man alive, to get to meldaver. That is, the zombie's main quest is to find any living body from that era, which eventually began and ended in the last episode, when he bargained for information from a local Sidorovich. at the same time, meldaver only needed a password from the caretaker, well, in fact, after killing 30 people, she would have cut off his daughter's finger and received all the information, and in the end even this was not required, although the ionizer was in her hands. In general, I have huge questions about the setting of the plot, personally I do not consider it logical and intriguing. In my understanding, thriller moments are needed here, as in lost, and here there is more Myasilov as a duma, and not development as in folk
You know, considering that the series turned out to be fantastically cool, I don't want to write enthusiastic odes to thousands of characters again. Instead, I propose a discussion, which, I am sure, will be interesting to many who have watched the series, namely on the topic "Do you think that 200 years after a nuclear war, humanity will be a handful of "homeless people" living apart from each other and members of various factions united by a common idea (mission), while living in the absence of the comfort familiar to modern man in the atmosphere of a general dump?" Let me give my opinion. It seems to me that all the hardships would have fallen on the first two post-war generations. Somewhere at the end of the life of the second generation, various associations of people (without global ideas, not sectarians, but simply survivors) had already settled down and assumed a real quasi-state form, in which totalitarian regimes would first reign. Two or three more generations of such structures would have been spent in strengthening their orders and arranging their possessions (clearing the territory of debris, building new housing, creating roads, farming, etc.). After 70 years, central energy supply and sanitation would have appeared in individual "states", factories and enterprises would have started working (not necessarily pre-war ones, of course). Already 120 years after the war, a significant part of the planet's territory would have been restored to relative order (of course, with nuances related to radiation, mutations and other features of such a world). And after a couple of decades, the authoritarian authorities would gradually give way (not voluntarily, of course) to the analogues of modern capitalist states (changes, of course, would not come from the "grassroots", but primarily from people who have mastered capital over the past decades. Thus, in 200 years, I think the world would be quite similar to the one we are used to, with some natural and medical features, plus taking into account changes in social relationships. What do you think about this?
@ksander92: Yes, in real life, of course, you are right. But we need this convention for the series, simply because we don't want to lose these retro-apoc-vibes.
I completely understand. I was rather interested in the above question in the context of post-nuclear worlds in art in general. In all films and TV series, in all books (I can't be familiar with absolutely everything, but usually the picture is as follows), the world after a nuclear war loses its familiar appearance for hundreds or even thousands of years. It seems to me that in real life everything would be restored almost instantly. Perhaps even for the next ten or twenty years after the war. I just wanted to raise a discussion on this topic and listen to different opinions. By the way, if you think about it that way, then a world that has recovered relatively quickly after a nuclear (large-scale) war in the hands of a skillful author can be no less dangerous, because at least in such conditions the existential fear of nuclear weapons subsides and its use becomes commonplace in any military conflicts, of which there are always criminally many.
@ksander92: sounds like you managed to find your own answer... good science fiction tends to look on the negative paths for development so that those stories can serve as a cautionary tale for us not to follow the same path. If you have a nuclear war and everything is peachy a few years after, then why not have one now to "solve" all our problems?
I agree that chaos can be maintained artificially, but I do not agree that it can be beneficial for someone inside. Any capitalist power is based on profit. In such societies, big business merges with the government and, through the institution of lobbying, has many levers of control. And if something is not profitable, it is alien to this order. And business does not develop well under the rule of chaos. There should be clear rules of the game for their own and, most importantly, purchasing power. If there is no such thing, then there is no business, which means there is no power.
@ksander92: An office with ambitions like vault-tec may be guided not by paper profits, but by monopoly access to all resources. They may not have sales, since there is no one to trade with, but this will not prevent them from fulfilling some other goals.
@ksander92: Интересный вопрос! Меня тоже "бомжи...в атмосфере всеобщей свалки" как-то напрягали долгое время, но потом я подумала, что такое может быть, на самом деле. Насколько помню считается что вот эти все бомжи это потомки выходцев из Убежищ, что мне кажется странным, т.к. в большинстве своем мы находим эти Убежища полные трупов, т.е. мне кажется там в лучшем случае процентов 20 это реально потомки выходцев, которые соответственно могли иметь образование, даже профильное, и какой-никакой доступ к технлогиям. А основная масса тогда что? Потомки тех, кто просто находился на относительно безопасном расстоянии от взрыва и выживали как могли на подножном корму, логично предположить что в зависимости от условий в которых они переживали взрыв у них могло не быть возможности дать образование своим детям, даже базовое, поэтому условно внуки-правнуки современников взрыва уже могли быть необразованными дикарями воющими на луну, типа как те племена что Цезарь объединил. Фракции тоже думаю реалистичны, религия или какая-то еще общая идея всегда очень актуальна в катастрофические времена. Анклав там "мы здесь власть, мы наведем порядок", Братство "мы не допустим того, чтобы это произошло снова" и т.д. условно успокаивая людей, давая цель и надежду в безнадежное время. А вот касательно перестройки, тут я считаю два главных вопроса. 1. Каковы реальные последствия взрыва атомной бомбы? Я слышала что на самом деле не так ужасно, как мы привыкли думать, т.е. что не сотня-две лет должно пройти, а там какие-то реальные цифры, чуть ли не через пару недель самый ужас радиации должен пройти, а лет через пять чуть ли не все как было почти, тут не цитируйте, я говорю нужно уточнять. Короче, если радиация действительно долгое время является критическим фактором, влияющим на воду, еду (включая урожайность), возможность выхода из помещения и прочее, то вот от степени и времени воздействия этой радиации будет многое зависеть.
@ksander92: 2. Уровень образования выживших. Если в группе есть врач/механик/инженер и т.д. то такие люди могут передать эти знания другим и действительно возрождать цивилизацию. Если их нет, в лушем случае может повезти наткнуться на проф. материал и будет человек который в состоянии его освоить. Если же мы говорим о необразованных дикарях тут думаю ответ очевиден. К слову, вот тут из комментаторов у нас есть кто мог бы организовать электроснабжение, водоснабжение или какую-либо еще инфраструктуру в подобной ситуации? Я лично нет. В лучшем слчае с книжкой и то, не факт, и это при наличии комплектующих, которых тоже может не быть. В общем думаю сильно варьировалось бы от места к месту. Тот же Анклав имел заранее и военных и ученых, Братство имело военных, возможно врачей и техников каких тоже, в остальном по-книжке, как я понимаю. А условные фермеры или бухгалтеры маловероятно обладают знаниями для воссоздания довоенной инфраструктуры.
@ksander92: following the example of asylum 33, even after nuclear power will remain in the hands of the elect, and it is unclear how much they benefit from the development of progress in which new people will receive authority. plus, take into account demographics in peacetime (IRL) and extrapolate it to the radiation landscape, there are only a few children in the game and in the series, so in 200 years I see just total extinction
Rewinding the plot back in my mind, I realized that I did not understand something. Residents of 32 have been dead for a couple of years. The neighbors did not contact them during this time, for example. Moldaver wanted to get the code from McLean, for this she used the pipboy of McLean's wife to enter 32, and then, having arranged a pseudo-wedding, attacked 33. We already know everything further. What I don't understand is is she so damn lucky that the wedding request came at that very moment, or did her subordinates sit in the shelter for a long time and wait for the right moment? And if the second, then what, were they sitting surrounded by devastation and corpses, not even tidying up a little for their own minimal comfort? Or did they just somehow connect to the shelter's communication system, and monitor the messages, and return at the right moment? If it was explained in the series, then maybe I missed it. Or is it just a plot assumption, and it's not worth going into too much?
@Nog: they explained it in a streamlined way, McLean asked Moldaver something in the first episode about the previous Caretaker, from which I concluded that the guys came in, checked the terminal with a request for a wedding (perhaps it was hanging there for a while), changed clothes, prepared minimally and went. - and she told him at the meeting that the caretaker was dead, now she was.
Why she used raiders and not NKR fighters at the same time is another question, no less interesting. Personally, I am concerned about why she, realizing that most, in fact, innocent residents of the shelter (including the daughter of her beloved passion) may be at risk - here, of course, the assumption is being made, and such a fat one
@Nog: the question is why they didn't just take their daughter after marriage, because she already wanted to find a boyfriend and take him to another shelter, this was also discussed at the very beginning. "After drinking, they quietly move with her to 32 and blackmail the caretaker through the terminal." But instead, dozens of peaceful people are being killed, whereas this dark-skinned woman is literally a warrior of light in this adaptation. In the end, he seems to be emotionally draining passwords for a couple of seconds at the sight of his daughter, and a minute later he runs away from her without saying hello. there are a lot of illogical plot denouements
War never changes. I hope it will be at least the same in the future. And not worse, but this is the end of the story in the middle of a word) I've been waiting for the series for 10 years to wait a few more years for the new season.
I didn't understand how Maldaver lived up to the events of the series, otherwise there are no questions. The appearance of super mutants and the death claw was not enough (but at least his skull was shown)
Maybe she was in the capsule too, just like Lucy's father. but then it's a mystery how she got there, because she wasn't a special supporter of the "regime" to deserve this. or maybe there is some other third way, which will be revealed later
The season passed very quickly, I liked it. After watching it, all that remains is: I want more! I admit that I did not play games (only in building a shelter on the phone), I really like the idea, I decided to watch the series here. The episodes were watched in one gulp, so I even said several times "that the series has already ended??". Questions, of course, remain after watching. Unfortunately, not all the arches were closed. In general, we are waiting for the second season and hope that it will also be interesting.
The series is cool, you can feel the spirit of Fallout. It's just a pity that the creators set back the development of society. I'm talking about NCR. Heck! It was an entire state, America was recovering! And then the herax! As if nothing had happened. And the dead Vegas at the end of this episode? It was a city that had almost completely survived. An island of civilization... Destroyed. Nevertheless, I cannot but mention the main merit in the development of the lore of the universe. We were finally told why Voltek was conducting these crazy experiments in shelters. Finally, there is logic in this. Of course, some experiments were ridiculous and stupid, and they remained, but nevertheless. And they also showed us who started the war.
@Lepestok: О, хоть кто-то еще заметил! Я уж думала что мне показалось, что Вегас разрушен, все такие "прям как картинка с игры" а я думаю там же казино типа Ультра-Люкса и Топс высокие были... Раз только Лаки 38 стоит, значит House always wins, я так понимаю. Плюс наверно к Хаусу отец Люси и пришел.
@Sweet-Sweet: When the credits roll after the episode, animated pictures of the streets of Vegas are shown. There is only destruction, anti-tank hedgehogs, a downed NCR rotorcraft and at some point lifeless automatons are visible. Vegas has fallen, there is no doubt about it.
The finale is a bomb. Atomic. I was waiting for sabzh, but with misgivings. And he eventually exceeded all expectations. I dearly love all fallouts in my own way, so there was a serious demand from the show. It's all the more surprising that they didn't just give out the best film adaptation of the game in history, but quite a full-fledged sequel to the universe. The version with a golden "not a billion ", who wants to create a utopia for himself on mortal earth, through a full-fledged reboot of civilization, as well as cultivating ideal slaves for himself (quite an evolutionary path), fits perfectly into our modern realities and popular conspiracy theories. Yes, and they brought the main arches together beautifully in the final, the pcm arch of Lucy and the Ghoul. A pleasant and charismatic cast of characters, excellent visual, soundtrack, and a good script from people who definitely love this universe and understand it. Such a level of expertise is incredibly rare for a modern film adaptation, because they are already used to the fact that the showrunner and scribblers do not care about the source material. Among the minuses are the unfinished arches of the Brotherhood (not counting the personal arch of Marcus himself) and all this cold synthesis movement, which are simply lost against the background of the main plot and serve so far only to bring the characters from point A to point B.
Well, I was a little confused by the fact that they did not show the danger of the wastelands, where various representatives of fauna and humanoids are at every turn in the games. It is clear that all sorts of super mutants and death claws were saved for the future, but they could at least show some kind of radscorpion once or twice. And then the world turned out to be very empty.
@ekko: Про последний абзац, согласна, тоже заметила, но помню про какой-то другой сериал прям создатели так говорили, что мол там игра, а тут сериал, игровые условности типа. Ну может быть что-то между игрой и тем что в сериале показали было бы идеально, так что и жизнь с опасностью есть, но и не так, что по двадцать рейдеров на каждом шагу)
@Sweet-Sweet: well, in the first episode there were hints that this world is very dangerous. When Lucy went to bed and the radtarakans came running. Well, or a meeting with Yao Gai. And then they seemed to forget that in addition to the danger coming from people, there is also a sea of all sorts of hostile animals in the wasteland and survival is not a joke.
@ekko: Да, действительно. Правда был же еще этот Gulper и парочка на мосту, в принципе тоже к случайным встречам/врагам можно отнести. Меня скорее удивило что ни одной группы рейдеров (не считая захвативших 32) не было за сезон, больше одной перебор для сериала, ок. А для живности допустим надо забрести в пещеру (яо гай) или в воду (gulper), а то помню как в тройке тупо выйдешь в пустошь, а там робот с яо гаем машуться, плюс кротокрыс какой-нибудь еще на них обоих нападает, лол какой-то))
@Sweet-Sweet: This is how the game is supposed to keep interesting, activities should be placed tightly and constantly, so it's not surprising that wasteland games are full of monsters.
@gkalian: Так я и не спорю, в первом ответе сказала что про другой сериал по-игре обосновывали что другой формат, поэтому нет врагов на каждый кв. метр как в игре. Но я также согласна с ekko что пустовато мир выглядел в сериале, пока что.
@Sweet-Sweet: you can always justify this by saying that there were inhabited places and the former patrimony of the NKR, they reduced the monsters around their capital before the explosion.
@Hidji: Теоретически да. Только вот в НВ нам насколько помню втирали, что вот у Легиона безопасные дороги без рейдеров и живности, а в НКР опсано ходить. Наверно смотря что там за расстояния, от того мужика которого Люси у дома встретила до Филли было не очень далеко, но вот до Шейди Сэндс какое расстояние я хз.
@Sweet-Sweet: so it's not worth comparing distances with F3, HB and 4). It's all sooo much too much for better playability in the footsteps of Morrowind and Oblivion (although I remember that in Daggerfall you could walk from city to city for a day, that's where the realism is). But it's actually close. If you evaluate the location of the action by real objects, then at the beginning of the series there were Santa Monica piers and by the end there was a ghoul against the background of the letters HOLLYWOOD, this is about 15 kilometers away. Not the distance at all.
@Hidji: Да я понимаю что игровые расстояния сильно ужаты, не знала про Даггерфолл этого, круто! Я в принципе рассуждаю, если расстояния большие, то как я поняла из НВ, на территории НКР небезапасны даже дороги, конечно если там 15 км, как Вы говорите, то думаю нормально что нет врагов на каждом углу. Вот путь Люси с Купером до Вегаса уже должен быть неспокойным, но тут неизвестно покажут ли его нам, может тоже телепорт будет как с ее отцом.
@Chip_kate: No explanation was given for this, one can only guess. The most logical option is that she also used a cryocamera, but there is no confirmation of this. As far as we know, all the cryocambers are concentrated in the 31st shelter, and it is unlikely that she was there, but it is possible that pre-war connections allowed her to get one for herself. It's not a fact that it will be discovered. Another thing that comes to mind is her obvious connection with the 4th shelter, perhaps the scientists there conducted some kind of experiment on her at the very beginning, which saved her from aging, but again this is just a guess.
@Nog: considering that the ghoul still has to find his wife and daughter, the cryocambers were not in one shelter, but several of them. It would be strange to put all the eggs in one basket. And Dad said she was the same. Maybe they had their own shelter project with a similar theme.
@Chip_kate: It seems that all these elderly and young gentlemen from the past used cryocambers and came out only on significant dates... for some serious business...like blowing up Shady Sands, getting re-elected for a new term and going to sleep, leaving management to subordinates, overseeing the creation of the California Republic as a Moldaver...and so on. They're all from the same pack of elites...they just have different views on the management of the society of the future (remember how they planned there - each shelter is an experiment of one of the corporations, and the world of Fallout is a testing ground for them), and they all use the same technologies in fact.
I was not the only one who noticed the similarity of Walton Goggins as a Ghoul and Ed Harris as a PMH from the Wild West World, they literally have characters very similar in characters, appearance and manner of communication.
Apparently Nolan and Joy decided to shake the old days, remember their past work, and take a little from the MDZ)) which is even very cool.
As a person who has been a fan of Fallout since the first part, and despises everything that the Gazebo has done, it went to me)) Especially respect for canonizing my favorite Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel. I sincerely do not understand why they love New Vegas, apparently, people felt so bad from the trash that the Obsidian craft seemed like genius against its background. But to all of them, as to China, cancer is up to the level of the originals, alas.
Regarding the series itself, of the minuses, I can only note the excessive idiocy of everyone and everything, especially the Brotherhood. Yes, yes, we all know how the games bantered on the same topics, but still not that much. There were also questions about how they showed intelligent ghouls, some of them turned out to be too powerful against the background of their counterparts in the games. And of course it was extremely unpleasant to see what they did to Shady Sands and the NKR =(
Otherwise, it's a great series, I'm really looking forward to the sequel. I really liked the way the scriptwriters are bantering about the current situation in the states - all this naivety of the residents of shelters and kindness to the raiders, a direct comparison with the left agenda and not understanding such people, which many scumbags they protect would do to them if they were left alone
The only thing I'm thinking about now is how all this will affect the further meta-plot of the franchise. I'm afraid Todd has released a genie from a bottle that he can't control, and that can change the ent of the universe much more than he and his Gazebo. But Nolan is still a fan of the franchise, and clearly proved this in the first season with a bunch of Easter eggs for his own, and in general, not with a disregard for the original, so keep your fists
@Darth_NOD: I want to minuscule the first two paragraphs, plus the last ones (the arguments have already been rubbished here, I will not repeat myself), so I will leave them unchanged. Can you tell us more about Tactics, what exactly was woven into the canon? Never played, never liked Jagged Alliance and Commandos
Well, this is a Fallout. It looks like a Fallout, smells the same, tastes the same. Although the actions in the series take place 19 years after the 3rd part of the game, in fact, this is a reinterpreted piece for the audience about the search for a father and clean water \ energy for everyone. Especially if you consider that at the end of the season, the action is transferred to Nieuwegas (according to the chronology of the games) 15 years after the plot of the game, where season 2 will be similar. And if this is the case, then in the third season, maybe 4 parts 9 years after the plot of the game will be shown.
Of course, it was shot not for fans of the series, but rather for the target audience of the online game Fallout 76, where everything is very superficial, "fun " and quite primitive. If a person played the original fallouts, most likely, the series can be very upsetting. In general, taking into account the claims voiced above, you can put a solid 6 out of 10 to the series, provided that the viewer is not familiar with the series.
@bogdansky9000: Obviously, the series is strongly inspired by Part 4. Everything is here - from stylistics and humor to directly recreated places from there. It is clear that they aimed at recognizability of the last numbered part.
I don't care about the game that I haven't played and I'm not going to, and the coincidences and differences between the series and the game) The show turned out great, different from that shit. what is being filmed in 90% of cases in recent years, a breath of fresh air, waiting for the second season)
ps. Moten looks and looks like Denzel Washington more than Denzel Washington's son)))
I haven't played in 1 and 2, and I won't call myself a fan. So I have questions that may have answers.
1. Why didn't everything in this world rot in 2 centuries and how did I understand after several nuclear bombings? All these cars are parked here and there. All sorts of toys, vending machines and stuff? Was there an explanation for this? 2. Why, at the first meeting of the ghoul with the knight, he did not kill him. And in the last one, suddenly remembered the vulnerability in the suit and killed them all there? Even if he really only remembered, there are places on this suit that aren't covered with bulletproof armor anyway. In general, the hero's scenic armor or what was it? 3. As I understand it, the Volt-Tech plan is not canon. And the whole ideology seems to be not capitalism for the sake of capitalism. That is, it is precisely the modern social agenda, judging by what I have read. In any case, I still did not understand how those smart guys behind closed doors wanted to make money on all this by destroying everything they had acquired, all the comfort around them and all the human resources.
And so the series is cool. I liked the Ghoul from gg, that's really a resident of the post-apocalypse. I have fully adapted. He is consistent in his actions, they are all logical. In the context of the world, he is not a villain at all, almost a hero. I didn't understand why he hadn't found the entrance to the shelter in 200 years. Over there, the 4th shelter takes over, and there seems to be a connection between the shelters. And the raiders somehow break into shelters. They were recognized in the first episode.
Maximus seemed like some kind of scum to me. He looks like a sociopath who tried to play the role of a knight. His moral compass is at zero. As well as intelligence. The knight's path has passed, now he wants to hang out with Lucy in a shelter wherever.
Lucy is funny. She is still an optimistic humanist, but she has completed a quick course on mastering life on the surface.
@Wefast: That aunt who is also from the past that everyone knows in the wastelands. In general, she was just dumped with her invention and she harbored a grudge. I didn't see in her actions an attempt to make the world cool. It is quite likely that with the help of this synthesis she wanted to get more power into her own hands. In the beginning, she and her people slaughtered people in the shelter. But apart from the most important thing there, everyone else is not to blame for anything. They are even useful considering their education.
@Wefast: ///Why didn't he kill the ghoul when he first met the knight?///
It is known where, I saw an interesting comment about this. Quote:
///Well, at that moment he was in a playful mood. The ghoul initially went to the middle of the clearing to troll everyone. And he also played with the little black boy, paying attention that that recruit with a shitty training, and out of a sense of solidarity with the warriors, he might not want to kill him, just interrupted the management of the security forces for 1 poke with a knife. How would it be cooler than shooting at a weak panel. All opponents (counter strike game) indulge in this.///
@Wefast: "In any case, I still did not understand how those smart guys behind closed doors wanted to make money on all this by destroying everything they had acquired, all the comfort around them and all the human resources."
In the series, they wanted to wipe out most of humanity by raising obedient greenhouse slaves in shelters from generations of cruel experiments (who will survive and undergo unnatural selection in these experiments), so that they can then remain alone in the devastated world, build the world from scratch the way they want it to be, and manage the way they want. "We will wait until time destroys all our enemies and competitors and sit down to rule, and whoever time does not destroy, we will destroy with nooks" - we have expressed this message. They don't need profit, they need power and a world built on their desires and vision. And when the NKR began to raise its head and slowly flourish, it was blown up, too, because they don't need it, so that someone was formed not according to their will and orders. Most likely, as a result, everything did not go exactly according to plan, but still.
Surprisingly, it turned out to be a very good series. It is clear that Jonathan and Lisa have studied the issue well and worked out the world very efficiently. Of course, there are a lot of blackheads in places, it would be possible to show it in less detail, but okay. As a result, the score is 9 out of 10 and we are waiting for the continuation. 😎👍🏻
It's a wonderful series. I've been a fan of the series since the third part, but I understand roughly what happened there in the first and second. And how well it was possible to transfer the atmosphere of the game, the music and the overall tone to the series.
This is not a simple meager retelling of the game, like the film adaptation of Last of Us, which in my opinion turned out to be quite average. This is a separate work in the universe shared with the games. There is a similar atmosphere, tone, humor, music, locations, but a completely different time and characters. And what amazing characters they are. It was a pleasure to follow their adventures. Perhaps only Maximus upset him, sometimes he did not understand his motivation and actions.
The series perfectly replays many moments from the video game when you have a few minutes of serious drama and horror, and in the next few minutes there is such an absurd and ridiculous situation that you just laugh out loud.
Well, one can't help but say that Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy, whose work I've been following since Person of Interest, were responsible for the series, and everything turned out just fine. A perfectly calibrated picture, an excellent plot that throws twists literally in every episode. The finale is simply made of twists.
In general, for me this is the best adaptation of a video game (Arcane does not count, there is still an animated series), my warmest recommendations to all fans and anyone who wants to watch an interesting series in a very cool setting
@Andrey1555: that's such a fake and they breed inexperienced viewers to watch, and then they spit in the comments, they say, "What the hell did I watch?" :D
If the Ghoul can so famously deal with guys in power armor, then why was he messing with Maximus in the second series? To be honest, this Ghoul really pisses me off. Too imbecile. He has endless cartridges for the miracle cannon, one hundred percent accuracy. In complete darkness, it hits the vulnerable points of the power armor. A cold-blooded killer who kills innocent people. I wish him all the bad things. Although, if you think about it, this is a direct mirror of the characters of the players in Fallout))) I also note that it is unlikely that the Observatory would have wires capable of withstanding the load necessary to power an entire city. Everything would have burned out to hell. In general, the last episode is kind of blurry and hurried. There is little certainty
@Lepestok: У меня два варианта, или он тупо его серьезно не воспринимал и пранковал, или что он только позже вспомнил про уязвимость СБ, там где-то уже в середине сюжета был флэшбэк где он высказывал этому корпоративному челу претензии. А меня Гуль радует) Что это игрок, в плане скиллов и прокачки 100% но у него и было дохера лет для практики. А вообще я 99% гарантии даю, что в конечном итоге Купер будет главным фаворитом сериала, очень мало останется тех, кто его терпеть не может, он нейтрал, а не злодей, пока показали его боллее жестокую сторону, потом он там спасет кого-нибудь или типа того и на него посмотрят в другом свете.
@Lepestok: he wanted to have fun with Maximus, apparently - after all, he had been lying in a coffin for so long, and the kid in the armor was clearly a clumsy nubuck. This often happens in online games, when experienced players make fun of an outspoken beginner :D The fact that the ghoul is a villain and a bastard without principles is indisputable. Even considering his sad story about his family and hundreds of years of wandering, there is still somehow no sympathy and sympathy for him because of his vile deeds. As for the power grid, it's a fantastic modern-style movie, they don't think about such little things. An entire city with apartments with unserved wiring for 200 years after exposure to nuclear weapons lit up at the click of your fingers :D I would also like a bigger and more detailed denouement - still not such a deep movie to try to think of something.
I will add to my previous comments. 12. The authors don't care not only about the ENT of the original fallouts (I've already come to terms with this), but also about the ENT of the Besedkovskys. In particular, Shelter 111 from f4 was for testing freezing people in cryocambers for long periods. Here, volt-tech famously freezes its top managers without any tests for hundreds of years. Very logical. 13. Lucina is kind "godmother" Moldaver aka "you look so much like your mother", who kept Lucy's ghoul-mom out of warm feelings, without any questions put Lucy under a radioactive rapist from the Wastelands, who was supposed to after the wedding" immediately kill Lucy. Moldaver's collaboration, as a representative of the NKR, with wild raiders from the Wastelands also raises questions. Wow, and I also swore at the character of Goggins, they say, what an illogical one.
@bogdansky9000: Well, here's a couple of thoughts for you right away. In 111, there was a short-term experiment for half a year to check if everything was fine, so to speak, the last run, while after sending a message to the caretaker 111 that everything went well, Vol-Tech did not contact them anymore because they themselves lay down in the cryocambers at 31 and slept. And Moldaver didn't come to the shelter to Lucy and she didn't know that she was going to get married, she doesn't keep track of the family tree. She came to her father, who, by the way, if for some reason you have already forgotten Shady Sense, blew up and killed more than 40k people, including women and children, and destroyed everything. No one was going to choose the culprits. By the way, even these same "raiders" stated that the neighboring 32 shelter was not peaceful at all. It can be assumed that top managers had a whole bunker with top guards to carry out all military assignments. Because just saying that they are the smartest will not achieve anything, you also need to pave the way for those who refuse to cooperate. Those who wanted to take revenge on them were through the roof. By the way, this is not to mention the fact that they were called raiders by Lucy, who had never heard of the NKR before and did not even understand varieties at all.
@Vescero: It's a little far-fetched about 111, but let's see what they tell us about it in season 2. About Moldaver, they also said that Lucy's mom and the children had left the Shelter, so she was definitely aware of Lucy and her brother in the Shelter and that they were in mortal danger. The Pro does not understand the raiders - is it probably those peaceful moderate civilized citizens of the NKR who wanted to carry out a humanitarian mission to electrify the city, just staged a peaceful humanitarian bloodbath in the Shelter? Understood, I have no more questions.
@bogdansky9000: Once again, the Caretaker of Shelter 33 destroyed 40k residents of the NKR along with the city (with a 154-year history, the CAPITAL! NKR). The residents of the NKR, guided by the law of the wastelands, had every right to cut them all out there. What's your logical problem? That the residents of the NKR did not come and say GUYS, LET'S NOT DO THIS MAYBE? Are you sure you're talking about a Fallout?
@Vescero: And why did the kind aunt keep Lucy's ghoul-mother? Are you sure you watched the series or did you imagine it in your mind? There is literally zero logic. By the way, judging by what peaceful civilized residents of the NKR capital did in the Shelter at the wedding, and then in the casemates, then Shady Sands is not really a pity - since the same monsters and sadists lived there and in neighboring cities of the NKR. This is if we follow your strange logic and really consider them citizens with broken hearts :D
Well, also, when the pussy runs screaming about "this is canon ", "this is not canon ", then you can already start burying right away. They're not looking, they're looking for cons.
I love the atmosphere, that's what they shoot for. What kind of stuffers are you, aren't you tired of it yourself?
True nuka break fans have filed away, if anything.
Of the questions that no one seems to have written yet: if everything is frozen at 31, then who brought such a delightful order to 32 in one night? with:
I don't remember the first Fouls very well, I didn't finish the Third and Fourth, and only New Vegas passed 5-6 times. I won't say that the series is a masterpiece, but it is very, very good. The Vault-Tec meeting is like a fanservice parade. There is Mr. House, as a timid representative (also joking about the casino), and REPCONN, and references to experiments in shelters, and in general it looks like a fat reference to Dr. Strangelove. The very idea that corporations had a direct impact on nuclear war is quite in the spirit of the series. In general, I am glad that in the series such an influence was given to Volt-Tech and their pre-war activities. A couple of small details, like a banner with Sunset Sunsparilla and the code 101097, referring to the release date of the first Folych, also pleased. Well, a panorama of Vegas and a flight along the Strip in the credits... Goosebumps. And in general, the screensavers and credits in the series are beautifully made, I watched them every time. Shelter 31.. well, a typical non-control shelter, albeit a bit like 111. Nothing original, but it was interesting to follow them. Cooper is the pearl of the series, a very charismatic Ghoul, I hope they will pay even more attention to him in the second season. Why there is a branch about the Brotherhood in the series is not very clear to me, but the Gazebo loves them, so I'm not surprised. I liked the series as a whole, the expectations were much lower. I will be waiting for the second season.
P.S. I've read a lot of negative reviews and therefore I don't understand why people still expect the Gazebo to be a clear follower of the canon of the first games. After three, four and 76, I can't believe it at all
An extremely controversial series. The main disadvantage of the series is the script. Then they throw you well-written characters (except Maximus, his line is a nightmare), then the screenwriters start writing complete nonsense, which is hard to believe. Yes, it is clear that they really tried to work on the series. The atmosphere, the music and the picture are on top, except that the Brotherhood's armor looks very ridiculous. The stories of Howard (no, not Todd Howard) and Lucy are well written, they are interesting to watch + Howard's flashbacks were interesting to watch, but in the end the character does not go anywhere, fortunately Lucy was treated wisely. The denouement itself is quite good, but the disclosure of the Vault-Tec plan is right in the spirit of the worst ideas of the Gazebo. The series, by the way, focuses very much on the Gazebo games, and not on the first two parts, which were radically different from what they started doing with the third part (New Vegas does not count). And if a person who has not played games tries to figure out the factions through the series, then he will not succeed at all, because apart from the Brotherhood of Steel, which are represented in a somewhat strange way, no other faction has received even a minimum of disclosure. Once again, to tell the story that we need to find our father. And then they tell us that there is a problem with the water chip in the Shelter (the beginning of the first part of the game), and then they just forget about it. I can't call the series uniquely good, but there are things in it that I liked. I hope that in the second season the writers will approach their work more competently.
@Sheldon4446: and Cooper has nowhere to develop. He's an accomplished character with a two-hundred-year background. There were hints of the Vault-Tec conspiracy in previous games.
@Sheldon4446: I didn't like the fact that the series came out quite shallow anymore. There is no deep study of the characters, no study of the locations (everything is generally bad with them in this regard), the plot is also some kind of fake. The setting worked well, no doubt, but even with that it didn't catch on. It's like watching a fan video.
I watched it, well, who liked the gazebo - it will come in. Bright, glamorous in tiktok style. But those who love Vegas or the first two parts are strictly forbidden to watch, because the ass will burn from what has now been made a canon.
@verolom: so you don't like the original parts and Vegas, because in this series the events of these games, as well as their message, were simply shoveled over, and the rest was cut out.
I saw a curious moment here. Sorry that this is not the topic of the series, but the number of players who play Fallout 4 (20 thousand online) \ Fallout New Vegas (5 thousand) has increased 5 times over the last year, compared to the last year in general, according to statistics from Steam, because of the series. It's funny :)
I will add a comment about the authors' respect for the lore of the series. I saw a funny meme about it. 14. Shelters 31, 32 and 33 are literally in the very center of LA and are not hidden in any way. The master from Fallout 1, it turns out, simply ignores them :D
Once there was such a drunkenness. A question for experts.
And why, in S01E04, did the hospital ghoul Roger get killed?
When viewing it, I thought in order to grind it into oriental medicine to enhance Japanese strength. But then it's not displayed anywhere.
Replenish your supplies with them? Bloodthirsty. But then, there was only nothing left on the Ghoul's backpack. Did they tear him offscreen right from Lucy, like hyenas? %-(
Out of compassion? One last help for a friend? But then what's all this for?
I misunderstood even that. The scene was not continued. What's the sex about? Is someone watching this scene more widely than me?
@Citokos: Roger was on the verge of madness. He could pose a danger to the heroes after a complete transformation. So I don't think it was important for Cooper to kill him now or later.
@Citokos: It seems to me that there is no compassion or bloodlust in the character of the Ghoul, only pragmatism. When you rock cannibalism in the game, you also somehow don't think about the moral side of this issue. Well, after the fight, you will need to spend no steampacks, it's useful. Nothing personal.
That's all intertwined in half a season, that's the saturation, and how everything turned out to be connected - I'm delighted and it's all in my favorite franchise. I even opened my mouth when I realized that Betty's Caretaker and Betty's young assistant - it turns out she is, frozen out of this shelter
I don't have any censored words to describe how much I liked it. I've seen some outrage from fans of the game, now I'm going to run and watch plot comparisons. Gorgeous! God, I wish there were more such vivid film adaptations where I really want to know what's next?!"
This scene with the ghoul and the knights is such nonsense. Why didn't they just shoot him? And why don't they have a built-in night vision device of some kind, or just a damn corny flashlight? Turned off the lights and that's it, the power armor doesn't work? One ghoul just shot everyone in some sudden vulnerable spot. Kringe
A good ending, the lights turned on) we are waiting for season 2, I even thought about whether it would be worth trying to play... although I used to be interested in more human games, or something))
Put a plus if you also drowned the whole series for a ghoul😁 It's a great series! I didn't regret that I started watching I hope that there will be a continuation.
The first thing I would like to note is that the fanservice has benefited history in the first place. In the game, we rummage through buildings a lot in search of supplies and often find adventures on the ass... Actually, that's what happened with Lucy and Maximus. Plus, this spirit of adventure and exploration, unusual locations that complement the world and stories. The props work is fantastic. One power suit is worth a lot. The graphon is like in a big expensive movie. I liked that we carefully developed the universe further in some details, like the same cold fusion. Well, the application for New Vegas is very interesting. There are even more beaten-down factions and charismatic places. The season was definitely a success!
There's no doubt it's a good series. I'm already waiting for the second season. But I would like to note separately that they left wonderful soundtracks from orig games. Right in the heart. Nothing else would have come here.
In general, the series came to me, I watched all the episodes at once during the day (here you can say thank you to Amazon that they released all the episodes in one day, and did not stretch for 8 weeks).
Very atmospheric scenery, great music and titles that I didn't even want to miss.
Walton Goggins did a great job, both as a Ghoul and as Cooper, it was interesting to watch him.
I'm looking forward to the next season, I want more Lucy, Ghoul and CX404.
Well, I've always liked Goggins for a reason, he dragged me with charisma, a rare case when it's interesting for me to look not only at the character now, but also at flashbacks with him. Ella Pernell is an unreal beauty, it's impossible to tear yourself away from her eyes. They even thought about the fact that she was so clean with silky hair by the season finale she was already all dirty, dirty and there was no trace of strained naivety. It was interesting to watch, although Maximus's sour face tried to prevent it. I really thought that after his kiss with Lucy, when he smiled for a couple of seconds, now the character will start to change, but no, he dragged his sour face all the way to the finale.
That awkward moment when the branch with the bunker was much more interesting than the main one. The main one was rocked only by the last two episodes. Before that, everything is boring.
Despite the fact that my detailed opinion about the series is suitable, rather, in the comments to the first episode, but suddenly someone vulnerable will consider some phrase a weighty spoiler, so I share it here. I'm sorry about the sheet in advance, but graphomania is like that.
The year is 2296. More than two hundred years have passed since the nuclear war. The surviving remnants of humanity live relatively serenely in underground shelters, unaware of how a completely non-idyllic new world order with mutants, cannibals, sects and wars has been built on the surface for decades... wars that never change. Naive Lucy, an inhabitant of shelter 33, who left her native penates for the first time and went in search of her kidnapped father, will have to face such an unfriendly environment. Her path will periodically intersect with two colorful characters: Maximus, the squire (newly consecrated) of the knight of the Brotherhood of Steel, and Ghoul (long converted), a bounty hunter. And all these three, in the best traditions of the Good, bad, and evil Sergio Leone, will with enviable regularity intentionally or not help and hinder each other on the way to the cherished unifying and separating goal.
In short, reader, I watched the series Fallout and I will not play the expert of the franchise... So, a reference to the wrong video game about the post-apocalypse.
In general, indeed, somehow it so happened that, despite my almost thirty-five years of playing experience, I am familiar with the Fallout series only slightly. In the first two parts, I played quite a bit - at that time I was not interested in the role-playing genre, and the three (along with New Vegas) and the four came out when it was getting harder and harder to find time for hours of adventures every year (hello, by the way, bought, but not completed games from Rockstar, starting with the fourth GTA). Of course, some things reached me anyway, but - I repeat - I'm not an expert, no. Accordingly, the opinion will be unbiased, for every little thing that somehow does not correspond or contradicts the games in the series, I simply will not be able to find fault, and, in general, even if I could, I probably would not want to.
These are the amazing times when the curse of video game adaptations came to naught. Sometimes contradictory things come out, and frankly bad ones, but the overall quality has certainly grown by a head in recent years. It's not so scary for your favorite series, as it was, say, in the nineties, when filmmakers (with rare exceptions like the first Deadly Battle) simply did not understand why they love a particular game. And all the more gone are the days when the German Uwe Boll massively bought licenses and cynically laundered money (Nazi gold, yeah) through his adaptations, simultaneously knocking out reviewers for criticism. Nevertheless, I was a little afraid of what would happen with the Fallout. Yes, not only Jonathan Nolan (with his wife Lisa Joy) was a producer, but also a director. For me personally, Christopher Nolan's films, where Jonathan had a hand in the script, are the most interesting and lively. And, of course, Jonathan and Lisa were the authors of the serial The World of the Wild West, the first season of which is one of the brightest, smartest, brain-crushing projects of the last X years on television. On the other hand, they also seem to be directly related to subsequent seasons, which were much weaker. On the third hand, the married couple, it seems, is vulnerable to the West (especially closer to the finale), because they began to engage in Fallout, and Nolan somehow flirted so much in the third part that he did not have time to write scripts. And, on the fourth hand, Nolan is exactly what producers and directors are, but not screenwriters and showrunners. Seeing the final result, of course, I will not believe that Nolan never influenced the screenwriters, but the main ones in terms of the plot were still some Geneva Robertson-Duoret (relaunch of Lara Croft, the first Captain Marvel) and Graham Wagner (the long-running sketch show little known to us "Portlandia"). I would say a dubious reputation. Not an outright failure, but it raises questions.
Nevertheless, everything turned out as it should, and even better. "Fallout" is good at almost everything. Firstly, this is actually a full-fledged fifth part of the game - the action of the series takes place nine years after the events of the four. Yes, I suspect there are some discrepancies with the canon, but while Bethesda, led by Todd Howard, is cooking up a real game sequel, even such a development is bread for fans. Despite the fact that the same Howard was a consultant for screenwriters. This is partly why the adaptation, of course, in terms of style, still tends more towards the later parts of the games. Secondly, "Fallout" works from and to as an independent work. You may not know what was in the games, what kind of constant references to them flash in the frame, but you will have fun, regardless of your degree of immersion in the world created a long time ago.
Surprisingly, on modern TV (and streaming services), it turns out that you can create great things without mentioning the agenda, taking on the main roles of charismatic actors and beautiful actresses. "Fallout" it is difficult to call a super serious work. This is an excellent black comedy with a considerable amount of naturalistic violence (however, there are boundaries, of course). However, where drama is needed, the authors skillfully escalate, and the actors act out. Not to mention the sharp political satire and subtext in the spirit of Dr. Strangelove Kubrick, which is revealed in full force by the last episode (even if such comments look slightly hypocritical from the products of the Bezos company Amazon). However, there will be a place to think before that. This is facilitated by a narrative that not only switches between the three main characters/antiheroes: Lucy, Maximus and Ghoul, but also between two timelines: events before the nuclear war and modernity. By the way, it is in this approach that the ears of the photographer are visible... Jonathan Nolan. One of the main characters, Ghoul, is such a Man in Black from the Wild West World. Just find ten differences (spoiler: you won't find that many). But my respect is to Walton Goggins, he got his own unique PMT. I've been watching the actor since the days of the police series Shield - the man grows above himself without stopping. So, both time lines offer their own set of riddles, which in the end deftly (and logically) intertwine into one tangle.
You won't be bored anyway. There is not a single overtly passing or weak episode in the first season. Somewhere there will be a lot of action, somewhere they will significantly furrow their eyebrows and dump out another batch of questions / answers, somewhere they will hit into unrestrained black fun: whether it refers to the witch hunt / communists in the past or to the harsh realities of the nuclear wasteland, somewhere a new unusual location will be shown or a strange character will be introduced. However, it is not a single plot - the picture looks expensive-rich, one hundred percent immersion, everything is authentic. I can't remember a single frame where something screamed "Naked CGI!". The soundtrack is gorgeous. It is clear that all (or almost all) songs are taken from games, and in games, in turn, they appeared from the golden fund of American music of the forties and fifties. There can be no complaints at all, however, one of my favorite modern composers Ramin Javadi (The World of the Wild West, by the way, yes, he is again], Game of Thrones, Prison Break) I didn't pass by either.
Well, the atmosphere of retrofuturism (as if taken for granted for those who have seen at least one frame from the games) is, of course, very cool.
To be honest, according to the trailer of the series, there was a feeling that everything would work out, but the fact that everything would work out so well makes you believe that not everything is lost on modern TV. And even within the framework of one channel, for every "Rings of power" there will be a "Fallout".
P.S. Something, of course, is not very good hovering in the noosphere about nuclear war, yes. The creators on this topic became animated. However, given the realities, it is not surprising. Let's hope for the best.
To me, as a person who has never been familiar with the Fallout universe, the series went even further In the last episode, well, they just chewed everything up, which was the question in previous episodes. How glad I am that Lucy and Ghoul are now in the dream team, finally the dynamics are incredible! I'm really looking forward to continuing, and I really hope that they won't be shooting for three years. 😵💫
- At the end of episode 8, Cooper (Ghoul) is interested in where his family is, but at the very beginning they show us how he rides a horse with his daughter and 4 bombs fall?! All the way, it was expected that he would tell a whiny story about how his daughter died from radiation, and he gulified, but no, he lost her somewhere and is sure that voltek knows where she is?? -7 minute 38 seconds of episode 1 show in shelter 33, at least 8 children no older than 10-12 years, after which about their existence do they forget in principle how? -Why didn't Hank MacLean recognize Lee Moldaver, why didn't he have any questions why the caretaker of shelter 32 is not a representative of 31?! (In the context of everything that will be told next, he decided not to spoil the intrigue for the audience.) -Why does Moldaver need a code, and 100 computer hacking skills didn't help? But the most important thing is that she sat on her ass without doing anything to help Siggi Wilzig (from the Enclave), the fact that the component for thermonuclear fusion in the end turned out to have a whole orchestra in the bushes! - There is no safety of shelter 31 at all. Go who you want to kill the sleepers, there is zero security. There are no cameras, there has been no connection for 3 years, no one cares, the entrance codes do not change! - None of the management knew what was going on in shelter 32, so they had the opportunity to put everything in order and, by the way, fix the gateways between the crossings. - Residents of 32, let's write with our blood that we know a terrible secret, but what kind of secret won't we tell, and then we'll all drink together? - If you read the Ent, the NKR breathed incense, there is no water, constant crop failures, they are raking in from the Legion, BS and Mr. House's robots. TV series: Voltek- "we have been waiting for 219 years and our main weapon is time, don't let's drop the bomb."
The series will also appeal to the old ones, who are new "folychs" do not perceive ;) And the actor of the main character for the brotherhood, Aaron, is very similar to the son of Mr. Denzel Washington ... =)
I do not share the general enthusiasm. Having started well, the series began to slide very quickly into complete nonsense with each episode. The last episode is not bad, series 6/10.
The ghoul opened some kind of perk to a shootout with the Brotherhood, because for some reason he did not beat him up at the first meeting with Maximus)
It is still not clear how Lee Moldaver lived for 200 years, for some reason they did not tell this season. Apparently also with the help of a cryocamera
It's not perfect, of course, but I got high anyway. The ending is very open, it is clear that they were counting on an extension. And hooray, they promise a second season. I'll be waiting.
What did you like: Gray morality. There is not a single purely positive character. Everyone has a catch. Except that Lucy is still a sweet idealist, but her character is also being tempered. Visual. Honestly, I was getting high from the view of the wastelands. I love beautifully shown deserts. Humor. Oh, yes, black humor is great here. She screamed like a seagull several times. Ghoul. Awesome character, I love them. Cynical character, interesting storyline, charismatic actor. A complete set for happiness. And Lucy, think about it. You can do better chemistry with Cooper if you're with Maxim. Please think about it.
What didn't you like: The local world. All locations are within walking distance, as if we use fast movement. It's too empty. At the beginning, there were at least cockroaches and that amphibian from the lake. Then completely zero. It is clear that they focused on the main plot, and the budget is not rubbery, but I would like to see more different animals. Well, just some bandits, looters, illegal traders. Something that would enliven the world. Maximus. Potentially, the character seems to be interesting. But how insipid the actor is acting out. I don't know, maybe they gave him such an installation, but in any case it doesn't look very good. And my eye is already twitching when the flashback with him and the refrigerator flashes once again. Stop repeating yourself, please! I also memorized this episode the first three times. Stop it!
I haven't played any games yet. Well, that is, I only managed to set the third fallout, completed training, and went out into the open world. There, some bandits killed me in the first location, and that's my hero's path so far. Therefore, the series was evaluated as an outsider who was not familiar with Lore. And I got a sincere pleasure from 7 episodes out of 8. Success, I think.
I didn't expect the series to be good. The thrash entertainment bribed me. It's cool that they don't completely slide into thrash, but balance the whole thing with drama. The drama is certainly a bit boring, but the plot is twisted quite well, it's interesting to watch it. Definitely waiting for the second season.
I played the first two parts a million years ago. And I liked the series. Dynamic, interesting, atmospheric, sometimes humorous. There are no complaints about the actors. Everyone is very organic in their images. Especially the Ghoul. In general, we are waiting for the second season.
I played the first two games, but it didn't go any further.. The series has its drawbacks, but they are mostly scripted, and the characters are good (except for the Maximum). I liked it more than not
I played everything (starting with the first one when it came out). I liked the film adaptation. The only question is to the translators (and the commentators who followed them) who are about Titus, Maximus - and do they also call Spartacus Spartacus?
I'm not familiar with the game, I watched it as a separate series, honestly I didn't understand anything, but Amazon shot it perfectly. Top-level detail ☺️
I didn't play the game. I really liked the intrigue and unexpected twist in the series with the fact that the owners of the shelter themselves staged explosions. We would also need a series with a plot: the owners of online cinemas secretly gather with the owners of courier services / marketplaces and decide for their own benefit to create a dangerous virus that will cause a lockdown, self-isolation.
I'm absolutely thrilled, I'm looking forward to continuing in New Vegas.
No one has ever said that these countries started a war. It just suddenly started.
And if you watch the first episode, there weren't even any traces of missiles.
Therefore, it is now the official canon that corporations, not countries, started the war (:
Personally, I would not like such violence against the ent of the universe. In the original Fallout, there were records that the war really unfolded between states, and that the first explosions in the United States were on the east coast; in F4 it is explicitly stated that the war began with the fixation of ICBM launches.
But I understand the current tension of the public and their desire to blame everything on evil corporations.
I've heard the opinion that it's about money as usual. ;-)
The series will definitely go to China, with its crazy-sized audience. How would you smooth out the corners?
Well, this independent Maximum - yes, we could take someone who at least knows how to play.
In general, the first series were very sugary, just for very children 12-13 years old, but then it got a little better and you can even say - a sturdy foursome, although the film adaptation of The Last of Us, as for me, came out better.
The series itself is super, I didn't see any illogicalities for myself. Sometimes you watch other series and ask yourself: Why did he do it, why did he do it, etc." Here it's all right
The series is very cool by the way, I'll go to fallout 3 and finally pass
Firstly, as a person who has passed all the parts of Fallout more than once (especially the 2nd part), NEW VEGAS is waiting for us, and it's a hundred times better, the aesthetics of this season, made in the style of the 4th part (one Legion is worth waiting for)
Secondly, there is a lot of black humor, non-standard moves and injuries of the main characters (although there is a steampunk, so all the necessary characters will survive), the plot, of course, is the search for the father, but not mediocre
Thirdly, the secondary characters are gorgeous, I could watch a couple more road movie episodes of Pernell and Goggins, the chemistry is felt, the branches with Lucy's brother, Goggins' wife and daughter have good potential.
There are no questions for the actors.
Fourthly, there are a ton of references, they are everywhere, in phrases, on the screen, in the soundtrack.
Amazon and others (it feels like a lot of people who love the Fallout universe participated in the team) created a wonderful series (not a walk-through, like the Lord of the Rings), which at least will appeal to fans of 3 and 4 fallouts, and as a maximum will come in as an attraction and acquaintance with the universe for everyone else
Goggins is inexcusably few on the screen, a spinoff about the brotherhood has become unequivocally necessary, and all hopes that Nolan will not mess up with the second season (I remember the World of the Wild West)
Therefore, when everything collapses around, the easiest thing is to build a farm and collect primitive and cheap firearms, and live by the principle of the law is the one who is stronger and who has a bigger gun.;
Naturally casinos, slaves, drugs, religion will flourish in such a world)
There's only the dialog interface and the claws of death from fallout, and weak ones at that. Flying poisonous insects were even cooler than the claws of death.
The final at the dam is generally a separate topic, I just followed the allies and did not understand what the difference was between mine and others.
The spirit of fallout is when you get out of the shelter and don't understand what's going on around, and not where you are some kind of courier. At this rate, you will write down tactics in your favorite parts, because there are unique mechanics there.
it's unclear what you're doing in New Vegas? YOU're FIGURING OUT WHY THE FUCK YOU GOT SHOT IN THE HEAD! Weak motivation in your opinion?
Factions affect the plot, quests, the ending, everything is as it should be in an RPG.
The finale is an excellent large-scale hack, in which suddenly it is not necessary to kill all the enemies yourself, and some of the work will be done by allies, whom you will recruit by completing quests and choosing a side.
Is it okay that the starting and conditionally main quest of the first and second fallout is to find a stray and bring it? Is it not a courier? And a lot of quests are courier.
The main disadvantage of New Vegas is that somewhere in the middle there is a lot of tiring running around.
I wrote about the factions and the final above - I was not hooked. I didn't understand the motive of the main character, his motivation, I didn't understand the actions and psychology of the NPCs, factions, and everything in general. After f1 and f2 (and even f3, which triggers many) I wasn't interested in playing it.
A simple megaton from f3 caused me more emotions than the whole of Vegas.
And about "finding a stray and bringing " about f1 and f2 - no, not at all. The quest was to save his people, community/refuge.
Well, okay, then there will be only one point of view in the comments, hello dead habr.
Do you compare your opinion with others every time? And if it does not match yours, you definitely need to speak out in the spirit of "why the author of the comment thinks this way, because I think in a completely different way, you need to write about it urgently, someone is wrong on the Internet"
I'm glad that you like other games in the Fallout universe unlike me, and it's very strange that you're confused that there are other people who like games that you don't like.
It will be easy for a simple person who is not familiar with the universe to integrate, because even the scenery in the background is made with a professional approach. The plot is not drawn out and not tedious. Black humor completely dilutes the whole picture and fell out of some jokes.
The main characters, as well as the minor characters, are very well developed. It is impossible to say unequivocally about him whether he is good or bad, everyone has their own story. And as a result, everything was remembered, and not like in other TV series, when sometimes you forget what the main character's name was.
The soundtrack and atmosphere are worked out at a high level. It would be very interesting to learn more about New California and the Brotherhood of Steel. I think there will definitely be spinoffs.
The plot seemed strange in places, but quite understandable and interesting. Many people do not believe that the corporation could have dropped the bomb itself, but why not believe it? They had plenty of money, technology also allows, there are connections in the government, and moral principles have gone into the background - in general, there are no prohibitions. They dropped it on some country under the guise, without having time to figure it out, it already responded to the "aggression" of another and here's a nuclear war for you.
So the conclusion is that we are waiting for the continuation, and I hope it will not be worse.
I definitely recommend watching it!👍
I liked the characters in general, some more, some less, but at least I didn't want to see anyone.
What I liked:
1. Attention to detail, in terms of decorations at least, right down to the paintings on the walls, the only thing is that all these decorations are from the four, but still, they are conscientiously done.
2. Music! There were probably only three songs that I hadn't heard at all, of the rest I know almost half by heart, and I'm almost sure that most of these songs weren't in the game, but I definitely heard them in fashion on the radio, of course it could just be a coincidence, well, like they were looking for songs from the same era.
3. Meat and other non-childish topics, there could be more, but I am glad that they were not removed for children. In general, some kind of fall atmosphere was tightened, although I would not say that even the 4th, which was clearly filmed, was completely transferred, but in the video I count as a plus because each part has its own atmosphere.
4. Characters. It probably wasn't intended that way, but I practically didn't see any "good" characters, except for Max's friend, who only harmed himself. Everyone has done something bad or selfish by hurting another, it seems to me realistic in life, and even more so in the post-apoc. Of course, Lucy and Max are still considered "good" on paper, but the situation was forced.
What I didn't like:
1. In terms of locations and plot, we just put all the games together, it seems like I knew that the obvious Megaton from the trailer would not be a Megaton, but a mixture of Megaton and Diamond City, well, it cuts the eye straight, unless it's some kind of alt. The universe can roll. Another escape from the Shelter and the search for his father. Another cryofreezing of people from the past. Another Cleaner (the energy chip was activated at the end) Another Wedding. Now there will be another New Vegas campaign. I think you can still list it for a long time, in short, where is something new?
2. Is the brotherhood some kind of cult with monks? I'm glad that assholes, the canon is true here.
Megaton is the east coast, and here is the west coast, LA, in the Santa Monica area.
I'm aware that the Megaton is not in LA, but you never know, maybe they would somehow have attached it in the form of a flashback or something, so far they haven't even said why, it seems there are several planes there, mb was an airfield or something.
Few people remember, but the first fall was an allusion to fantasy, only in post-nuclear conditions. From there, zombie ghouls, orcs-super mutants, palladins-brotherhood, etc. And on the game disc there was the first working build of the engine, where everything is just fantasy, in real time, and not step-by-step, the knight runs around the map.
Did the Brotherhood always have some kind of RCP priests with censers? Well ok. It is known that they are a cult, I mean religious rituals, they are a technological-military cult, not a religious-medieval one.
But in general, this elder (the dude from Mr.Robot) obviously refers to both the outcasts from F3 and Father Elijah from NV. That is, even within a faction that wants to save the world by condom technology, every time it splits into sub-factions that have their own opinion on how to use technology
You are right about splitting into factions, but this seems to me to be a separate topic in general, I doubt that any religious faction has been founded here, although theoretically anything can happen, if in the future they somehow justify reasonably why this is so, then please. So far, it just looks very strange and inappropriate.
I'm wandering around reddit here, I came across a quote from House from New Vegas when he asks to clean up the brotherhood:
"They're terrorist group, basically". Militant, quasi-religious fanatics obsessed with hoarding pre-War technology.
There is also an interesting idea that the Enclave are followers of a political bloc, the Brotherhood is a military organization. The logical development was the radicalization of each of them. Well, the same Caesar, who came out of the followers of the apocalypse and became disillusioned with liberal values, took and muddied the cult with the form of the Romans. That's why it seems realistic to me that the Brotherhood is becoming more dogmatized
And that the Enclave is watered. the block is so canon, they are the pre-war government, as well as the BoS pre-war military)) Radicalization is logical, yes, given the structure of the organizations themselves, and post-apocalyptic times, although again, radicalization does not have to be religious, they have a third Reich or something there. Caesar just took advantage of the situation in his favor, but he was disappointed rather in uneducated savages, by the way, a man wrote to me there above that there was no medieval rollback of technology in Vegas, yeah, that's the whole Legion just consists of people who rolled back to the Middle Ages, or even further, by the way.
That the Brotherhood is becoming more and more radicalized, yes, it is logical that it is becoming religious after all, not for me. Usually people turn to religion when there is no progress, the Brotherhood seems to have everything normal on the technological front, so it would be strange for them to start praying to someone around the campfire with a tambourine, it seems to me.
Interestingly, the collective image of cities, plots and artifacts could well be written down as a plus, as following the spirit of the series, and as a minus (which you did). Or the brotherhood - why is it a minus at all? we just wanted to consider them cool guys for a good cause in the first parts, but it wasn't so obvious there, as lits noted.
Overall, I think Nolan, Joy and Howard DID IT. In general, the creator hardly has more than one or two brilliant ideas on his life path. Howard has had the same approach to game design since the days of Morrowind, from there all these "oblivion with guns ", Nolan and Joy have construction on the way to solving, a kind of wild West world with radiation". And for some reason everyone condemns it, but is it so bad? Especially if the idea evolves (okay, in the case of Howard, you want him to walk faster, but the person is tired, you can understand). Or here's Woody - he shot his 50 films, and everything, in fact, is like "Love and Death " 71. So is Clint, and Ridley, and Bergman, and anyone. We don't really care about a lot of things in life, if you think about it that way.
And here the guys did not set the task to replay the game, but to capture the feeling of the world, recreate it extremely realistically, convey the spirit. I think they did it - I'm sure those unfamiliar with the series will run to steam or console stores (the main thing is not to go beyond 76), and the fans got high from the fanservice (although with such a level of meticulousness it's even blasphemous to call it a fanservice, too filigree work)
We just got stuffed because of the abundance of content. I'm fine, the rest are looking for cons
About the collective plot, yes, it's more of a minus for me, I wanted something new, by the way, when shooting, it was possible to circumvent game restrictions, such as the number of non-inscriptions per square meter, i.e. it could be a full-scale war or a full-scale city, as they mentioned about Shady Sands that 35k people there it was, but we didn't see more than 50 at a time on the screen. Thanks for adding 2 more POVs, they diluted the plot quite well, that was something new.
About the Brotherhood... Well, everyone misunderstood me. The brotherhood is a cult of assholes = the truth and a plus from me. The brotherhood reads some prayers and walks with censers, and calls the knights "my Lord" = what the fuck and minus from me.
I agree! I also mostly liked what happened in general, there are more complaints, there is more to praise, but the Fall is still an RPG, here I also make a discount, Cooper is closest to my style of play, and thank you that he is, but if only there was Lucy/Max, which is not really mine at all, I would not take my playlist into account when evaluating it in the same way. I'm glad that you didn't lose face after all and made me happy, not upset! It is clear that they tried, and did not do it on the dump. Personally, I didn't expect to replay the game, namely the feeling of the world, it was cool to see things like Shelter and Power Armor in reality. I would say that they created their own spirit, as each part of the series has its own atmosphere, and I consider it a success and even better than if there was a copy of some part. You're right, I hope we don't have FO4 SE/AE waiting for us now after this series?
>>I hope FO4 SE/AE is not waiting for us now after this series?
ahaha, they have already announced a free update for the end of April with the long-awaited 60 signatures on the torrent gene and even a small quest line (something about the enclave), as I understand it, they rolled out a sale for the series.
Okie Doki, so we are still waiting for SE/ AE :D
>2. Is the brotherhood some kind of cult with monks? I'm glad that assholes, the canon is true here.
Another fallout specialist who has only seen fallout 76. Knights, clerks, paladins, elders and other religious stuff didn't bother you in the games, but do men with censers bother you here?
By the way, I thought that the squires invented the series, but no, there were squires in the games too -- in particular, in the three-piece Maxon was a squire, and then the main military commander, elder and chief of the Pridven (in the four and beyond).
But what you thought that the squires invented the series is just more likely to talk about you as insufficiently feigned, let's say, because yes squires are in games, it was not at all surprising.
The market decides
There is an opinion (seen on reddit) that the idea of a Volt-Tech dropping bombs came from a cancelled 2000s movie. It was planned even before the release of the second part of the game, and a draft version was written at the same time. In it, the creator (caretaker) of shelter 13 dropped a bomb and provoked a Great War. The full version of the script is online, including in Russian.
Maybe the divorce factor?
At a children's party, it flashed through the conversation that the Cowboy needed to pay alimony. The sinister corporation has embarked on the next stage of its sinister plan. And one of the tops had a child in the wrong place. But, the plan is unstoppable.
No luck. :-(
In the second season they will tell)
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Of the advantages, I am ready to highlight the maximum attention to detail in the world - decorations, various objects, TV commercials, comics - they were very meticulously transferred to the adaptation, it turned out perfectly.
The music for the series was written by Ramin Javadi, but even without him, the series is full of cool compositions, like The Ink Spots – I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire.
Of course, the current state of the NKR and the way Shady Sands was treated were upset. In the morning, of course, I saw the stuffing of people from reddit, that retcon was made, something was canceled, but no. As a result, all the events that happened to the city were explained, saying who did it and why.
Some questions were raised by some computer chips inserted into the series. At the beginning, a machine gun cannot hit the doctor from the Enclave, then the paladin is caught on a hook, then the steam pack instantly heals all wounds. I understand that this may still work in games, but in the series it should be shown a little differently. Well, in the piggy bank of questions - it is not clear how Moldaver lived up to the events of the series, nothing was said about her cryofreezing.
Oh yes, the rejuvenation of McLachlan is some kind of shame, well, similar things have already been done in TV series, why it was done so terribly is not clear.
In general, this is not a film adaptation of any particular part, but it was pulled from a lot of places, as Sweet-Sweet noticed. There's a chip, and a father, and a freeze. Well, some locations are just a hodgepodge of Bethesda games, as if they wanted to please the fans of the games, but come on, it's not critical. As an adaptation of a series of computer games, it turned out quite well.
We are waiting for the second season.
In general, even if the quests for the NKR took place in New Vegas, it says in plain text that the NKR has become sluggish, mired in corruption, has stopped caring about citizens for real. She, like the Brotherhood, has lost her ideals. And what would be the right plot move in this case? All empires fell, but many revived in a renewed, evolved form.
And here we are shown the "good" NKR sheep fighting for a good goal, the remnants of their former greatness, with this cold fusion core. I think this is a logical development.
In general, I agree, the NKR has really become a clumsy and complex machine, it's just that it started well.
Todd just took a good chance to erase the long-standing ent from black isle.
Tired of hearing about Todd and the NV he hated, Todd always respected the original dilogy and admitted it more than once. He had great respect for Obsidians, who were not so white and fluffy (the eternal story about the lost prize due to two points on metacritic also filled his teeth)
In general, arguing with an orthodox quasi-religious organization "Witnesses of the second Coming of Black Isle and Obsidian" is more expensive for yourself. You will add any little thing, well, like the glass outside the shady sands crater is not broken - everything is not canon, the gazebo is a sucker, a hack. A cold head should also be turned on sometimes
Well, since you suddenly enrolled me in a sect, I can't help but ask: how many folds did your tongue count on Todd's anus?
by the orthodox quasi-religious organization "Witnesses of the Second Coming of Black Isle and Obsidia". That's about where you ran out of arguments and you moved on to discussing me, not the subject of the dispute.
Another soy snowflake, which, being unable to defend its point of view according to the facts, turns to insulting the interlocutor, and, having received a natural response, screams about toxicity. You're ridiculous and pathetic. Oh, I'm sorry. YOU are ridiculous and pathetic :3
There are many ways to get personal:
- if I were an arrogant schmuck, I would go to your page, look at the ratings for your series and say "you're too flat a guy, what can I argue about?". But I didn't get personal, and I just say: when, in the terminology of Kinopoisk, there is 0% closeness of interests (except for wiretapping, and who doesn't like wiretapping?), constructive dialogue is possible only with mutual respect, and there is no smell
of it here - if I were one of my kents, with whom we have been hanging out since the beginning of the noughties on
- if I were, as you say, a soy liberal, I would say that you are a scanty quilted jacket, violating other people's borders, but characters like you, this only provokes
- at the very least, I would make a joke in response about the leasing services of your imaginary girl (imaginary - with a hint of incest, of course, with the show-off that quilted jackets are usually offended by life, and are looking for the realization of their greatness with turns "once again", "learn history", "it's clear, another soyboy / liberaha" and so on, but for some reason they still don't give them, and there are no real friends nearby), but I don't know, maybe you are already married and with children, all such a respected cupcake and just I like to get fucked up when someone is wrong on the Internet.;;
- maybe it was not obvious, but I attacked not the personality, but the idea: fans of the original dilogy are biased - they were fascinated by the depth of the study of the world, having cemented the image of the world in their head. This image couldn't help but develop. So, for example, the sunset of the NKR was outlined in the unreleased Van Buren- it's not the amateur showrunners and Howard. The ending for House in NV is most likely canonical (which is a shame - he's an asshole)
, they don't tell us ANYWHERE how many people and at what level of development the NKR (not shadisands) was before the bombing. We don't even know if all 30-odd thousand residents from this sign were destroyed by an explosion - they could have fallen off, it's just a sign. Stagnation has set in since the heyday in fallout 2, then the state of the center on vestkost is little known to us, what scattered cars and traces of agriculture, damn, farming should remain there - an open question. Of course, it would be desirable for showrunners to reveal this or at least not show it incorrectly in the second season, but so far there are no contradictions
- even if the creators made a mistake and got it wrong (which, again, is not confirmed by anything), I believe that the issue with the remnants of the empire and the mandatory showing of this in the episode where we saw Shady sands is far away not central to lore. And in general, any such argument individually does not prove the stupidity of anyone, it only proves an error. With a critical mass of errors, reliability is violated, this was not the case here. Armed with this logic, you can calculate so many percentages for both the second foul and New Vegas, even if it's a disproportionate ratio of people (since we don't care about the restrictions in film production on props, why should we care about the limitations of the engines on which the games are made? It's unbelievable!)
4 (75k),
NV (20k),
3 (6k),
1 (2.5K),
2 (1k).
That is, 96.6% of the total mass of those interested went to the top four. With the caveats that this is online, not sales, and that this is only a PC (there are only four offline parts on the carrentgen). That is, I would absolutely say that 1% of users went to play from the beginning
Another interesting infographic: troika and NV had a peak online in July 15th - before the release of the four, everyone watched the trailer and began to go through both parts. There are values 2 times higher than those that I indicated above, 10k and 30k, respectively.
The deuce has the peak online in its entire history now, and the first one - in the 17th, when it was distributed for free on its twentieth anniversary.
In general, it is known that some of them definitely fell off. At least according to the series, some of the survivors of Shady Sands are sweetly praying and smearing ashes in the 4th shelter
But after all, Mr. Twin Peaks to us with scary eyes for-foreshadow-il "oooh-oooh-oooh, she's really no different from me" when the three of them were chatting with Mr.
It seems to me that this series handles its loaded guns too skillfully for them to just drop this line, so we are waiting for the second season.
The events of New Vegas are canon (and no one threw anything away), and the inscription on the diagram "The Fall of Shady Sands" means the fall of the city in 2277, not the bomb itself. The bomb fell immediately after the events in New Vegas, the year was not named, but apparently it is 2281-2282 approximately.
As if Blade Runner (1982) was filmed by Disney.
Todd's hand is noticeable, of course, but it even helped. For a fan of the franchise, it's fucking awesome. I read on the Internet that some smart guys thought that Vegas was deleted from the canon, but actually chronologically the series after it and F4 is already underway. It's just that apparently it wasn't Mr. House who won the battle for Hoover Dam (WHO WAS SHOWN HERE DURING HIS LIFETIME AND THIS!!!!!! WOW)
The densest 9/10. I just didn't have enough mutants, the super mutant was only shown a corpse in a piece, the Claws were teased only with a skull at the very end. I hope they will rehabilitate themselves in the second season.
We live in a great time, video game adaptations are amazing and cool. Old Uwe Ball must be in complete shock.
Straight fire, a lot of references, a lot of canon, gun battle scenes, rocket plot, the ending promises no less epic ties for the second season. Well, they can, when they want to!
In general, I really love the claims "they were shot wrong!", which is very popular now.
Take, for example, the three-body theory book - so someone doesn't like the Chinese version, someone doesn't like the Netflix version, others shout both options are shit, not like in the book.
Well, don't look at what to do. The market probably has little to lose from the stifling condemnation.
Only the first part had some kind of completeness, but it was very different from the current Arbor universe - there the dead world was finally dying, turning into something completely obscene, and the protagonist partially stopped this obscene, and it did not end well for him. And then there will be people, ghouls, brotherhood, then more super mutants will be brought in, maybe if you're lucky, everything will boil in an endless cauldron of fucked-up adventures.
I was pleasantly surprised, good job.
When is the second season planned there?
P.S. I hope no one gets inspired from corporations and starts building shelters. ))))
Amazon already has storage areas all over the world, who knows what's underneath them...
I only played the third and new Vegas games when they came out, not that it went down, but the atmosphere of naive fiction of the 50s went down. Here, too, according to the atmosphere, the robot brain is just what you need. The Ghoul line is straight buzz, pure Rory from Doctor Who
A strange but compelling mix of thrash and fantasy. I liked that the level of cruelty and madness corresponds to the apocalypse. I looked at it in one breath. The music creates an awesome atmosphere. It's not a masterpiece, but it's very close to it.
Overall, it's not a bad story, we're waiting for the second season)
To begin with, how we are introduced to Lucy — like, well, I pumped myself a perk for shooting, took dexterity, but did not gain strength. A Ghoul joke on the topic: "all sorts of shit will distract you on the way." Again, the idiocy of this final brainiac "stand still, I need to enforce the directive! Why it never works." And the scene in shelter 4 where such a... fuck... well... uh... But okay, I've already started a peaceful passage anyway, Soryan. Plus, this doctor with a choice, who exhausted my nerves in the first foul: "well, look, I can put cheap implants for you, or expensive ones," and you're like, no... Well, damn, I don't know what to choose. Well, it will definitely mess up! What to choose. And here this fucker is gorgeous too.
The only downside is that for some reason they did not do how the heroes vacuum the locations, taking cartridges from the corpses and checking all the garbage cans for whatever was there. Well, that's a plus... now this series is canon. What can I do (although the question is on the topic: we still don't know who blew it up first, we were just told that the business wanted to do it, but they never showed what they did)
I am glad that the events take place after all the parts, i.e. what the brotherhood will do with infinite energy is at the discretion of the screenwriters and gives free rein to thought, and, also, does not bind to any part of the game.
Yes, there are annoying actions of the characters and stupid chewing of the main intrigue at the end, but otherwise everything is fine.
And as for the disadvantages, they all come from the games of the gazebo and the lore rewritten with it.
No one caused rejection, interesting questions remained, we will wait for the second season and answers.
As a fan of the series, who played a bunch of months back in the first parts, I dreamed, of course, of seeing a film adaptation of my favorite universe, but unfortunately I saw the same glamorous post-apocalypse with laughs.
The main disadvantage is that there is not enough pessimism, oppressive post-apocalyptic hopelessness, and the devastation that will follow a nuclear catastrophe. The visual is good, the universe was transferred in great detail, but the atmosphere that is felt during the game is not felt (I am silent even about the second part, it does not smell here). In short, I don't really believe it, although there were good moments in this regard. By the way, the inspection of shelter 32 just reminded me of Foul 2, something like that was in the spirit of the first parts :) But for a rather short moment.
There are very few locations, so despite all the detail shown, they did not actually introduce the post-apocalyptic world itself. With a few exceptions, all secondary characters are as secondary as possible and do not play any role, you immediately forget about them. In fact, they showed the drama of the main storyline, that's all, and the world of the game is much deeper.
In general, I do not regret that I looked, and I expected a worse result, but I cannot say that it is noticeably catchy. However, I will be happy to watch the sequel.
There is a good (as for me) example of a film adaptation - The Last of Us. Perhaps there is not as much in common with the game as in Foul, I did not have time to play, but the series itself came out atmospheric and exciting. And quite deep, since the locations are well developed there, not only visually, but also in terms of participation in the plot.
In the Foul, almost everything seemed rather superficial. The location is kind of big, but they use literally a couple of scenes in some parts. Except that during the inspection of Shelter 32, there was a slight smell of a second Foul :)
For example, when Coop and Lucy met the ghoul in the hospital, they showed the entrance to the hospital and the room with the ghoul. In the last location (the Observatory), they showed essentially a courtyard from above and a room with essentially all the main characters. Yes, the visual is very good, but there is no sense of volume, complicity, like some kind of sitcom :)
P.S. More action scenes are some kind of Bollywood :)
I don't know about Lastofas, I'm not a fan at all, I'll see when / if they make a deepfake with the face of another actress. I watched the first episode, it didn't go far, I shook it further, I got the impression of some kind of studio series a la Sabrina (in terms of budget and quality of semka in the sense), only a post-episode
1) how did the main training program live up to this time? Was she frozen by wolves? Why would they do that if she was against them? Did you freeze yourself? Whose resources? An enclave? It is still not explained
2) why did she fuck up synthesis? Like, so that everyone has energy? Like bs won't hide, well, bs has captured this generator, who prevents them from blocking everything back now?
3) why was the ghoul looking for a thief, they weren't enemies in the past, she just showed him the truth about his wife. So I also killed two guys to find out where she is.
4) why is there such a strange cult in shelter 3, again, of this formulation? It is clear that she was an important person in the SHS, but still strangely they almost had an orgy there.
5) why did she leave Lucy's mom in such a state? Like I loved her, but why make her suffer? Peek-a-boo?
6) well, last but not least, again regarding this lady, we are kind of told at the end that she is actually good, so why would she and some fierce raiders kill a bunch of peaceful people in Lucy's shelter if she could just as well tell all the locals the truth / just steal the caretaker without blood. Were there raiders or homeless people from the NKR with her, or are they raiders?
In short, this woman is the main one who left the most mysteries behind, died and that's it for now.
Seriously. The 1-5 question has no answer, I hope that they will explain it to us in the second season.
Regarding the 6th question, there is not even anything to say. Nothing is clear at all. Why did the 32 shelters kill each other? The experiment was connected only with the appointed managers, and not with psychotropic drugs.
Maybe this madam is just evil, and you shouldn't look for morality in her. The fact that at least someone is alive is already good. Yes, figs knows him in general.
2) Well, yes, so that everyone has it. And why should the Brotherhood block it, if there is, like, eternal energy? You don't have to be greedy about it. Although, with that grandfather and his arguments about power...
3) Didn't the Ghoul want to find out from her where his wife was going? He seemed to be saying something like that.
4) Maybe she promised them eternal energy?
5) Probably so that there is proof of Hank's lies. And the feral ghoul seems to lose his mind completely, there is nothing left to suffer.
4. She, kmk, adopted "mutants" (and the offspring of those crosses in the 4th volte) as normal members of society. I gave fusion the reactor and didn't touch them.. Maybe that's why they orgasm.
It's a great moment! Who cares why they stopped? Maybe he broke their template, stood up outrageously, in a Western way. For the same reason that in movies they run ahead in shootouts, and do not hide in shelters 99% of the time, as in real life
But about the ghoul, yes, I think you can believe that they were taken aback by his arrogance and did not react immediately.
if it bothers you, I won't do it anymore) I just read all the comments on the series, my eye caught on.
>the crazy denouement about the fact that vault-tec themselves took America and Shady Sands
is not true, I repeat, it was never claimed anywhere that Vault-tec bombed America - only had such an intention, and not the fact that he managed to implement it. A bunch of docks in the terminals of the first fouls tells us not only about expos, but also about connections with all major corporations, first of all, RobCo, REPCONN and the government.
about bombing Shady Sands - the NKR is the main political force after the destruction of the enclave, if the goal of Vault-tec is world domination in post-military America, what's wrong with this motivation?
And along the chain - already the blunders that you are talking about do not break the plot, do not contradict the canon.
>The trend towards stupidity is progressing.
this cognitive distortion used to be better. Let's open the list of TV series of the 90s and look at the number of works with a good story. And not just by the number, but by a fraction of the total number. It's insignificant, offhand early Sorkin, Lynch, Simon, in the late 90s - HBO came and distributed it to everyone. Yes, now netflix is chopping content, not art, based on algorithms, with cliffhangers and a liquefied structure, but it essentially lured away all the same productions that created the same consumer goods for broadcast channels.
In the book Amusing ourselves to Death (1985), Neil Postman complains that TV killed a complex narrative structure - they say, at a time when newspapers were the main medium, dialogue and the length of passages in it resembled newspaper columns in structure - it was easy for people to communicate like that because they consumed information so much. Everything was shortened with the advent of the telegraph, and then, with radio and TV, it was generally vulgar and stupid.
Many reviewers say that in the era of Twitter and tiktok, it is more than relevant that people have stopped perceiving the text. Okay, maybe it is, another question is what to do about it? Howl at the moon, how stupid is everyone? Inadequate. To require the creators of multimillion-dollar franchises to make lengthy monologues on plausible backgrounds? For me, it all reminds me of the fight against windmills.
The last thing about the foul show and the writers is imagine that your task is to please fans of isometry, fans of the gazebo, new Vegas, newcomers who have not played in the franchise, not contradict the upcoming fifth part (and Howard misfired them a lot with this) and at the same time make a fresh fascinating story in a vacuum. Does it really seem legitimate to you to use the word "stupidity" in the aspects that you have cited?
About the study - can I have a name? myshous does not like links, but I have not seen this. I saw a study where IQ decreased in Norway from the 60s to the 90s, based on environmental factors (agenda, as you say), and the general trend to increase IQ from the 70s globally by 0.22 points every year. It is interesting to look at the correlation in the context of developed and developing countries, etc. I would superimpose these graphs on life expectancy, on quality in different countries, on mental health and the level of emotional intelligence (which is no less important and more difficult to measure).
I do not deny the problems - I myself see wild schools completely, in well-off areas, in good clothes, and I think "we were not like that". Now very disturbing videos on YouTube are increasingly appearing from friends in our country, in Europe, and in the USA. Teachers, unlike politicians, who always blame violence in games, look at families and the indifferent attitude of parents, at the infantilism of millennials. The parents who are accused, in turn, throw stones at smartphones and tik-tok (as in the tenth they threw in anime, in the noughties in nickelodeon, in the nineties - in teletubbies, eternal history).
I'm not saying that there is no problem, but the reasons have little to do, in my opinion, with the plastic armor in the fallout series, or with the shiny trinkets. Or in chat gpt, calculator, internet, smartphone and more. It's just that the strategy of grumbling at stupidity doesn't work. Try to show by your example the viability of a reasonable approach to the life of a young growth - this works, but it is not such a trivial task.
The script is a multilaterally complex thing that is rewritten ten times (and in such complex projects, I'm sure that much more) It's like an algorithm. I don't see how your criticism of the Fallout will stimulate you to consume more complex content, unfortunately - but I can easily imagine how it will anger and set you against. But okay, something has become very stuffy, I will suffer a dialectical fiasco with the lexeme "I see that we cannot have a smart conversation"))
Gorgeous in his stupidity?...
It is difficult in your right mind to advise an unprepared player today from the start with the original first foul. But they haven't come out yet, alas, and they may waste another couple of years.
Therefore, I would recommend buying on PC 3, NV and 4 (there are sales on steam right now). I would suggest starting with the third one - even if you end up liking new Vegas or the four more, it will be much easier to go like this. Be sure to download the Fallout3 WinXP patch from nexusmods com-7-8-10 Multicore Threading 4GB LAA with 4GB FOSE Setup - otherwise it will be blunted and crash, and enjoy a smooth game with it. By no means play on ps3, this is the most terrible port of both 3 and NV
An interesting plot
I read almost everything as in the game
I sometimes felt Spanish shame for the heroes🤣🤣🤣
But it will not be shown until pip-chad (even) or pip-sister find the 31st vault.
Wherever Pip needs to be written Volt 😔
Kane, of. youtube: the first 2 episodes, very praises
Avellon, of. tweeter: so far, he just asks not to spoiler him
, the rest are silent
I looked at it during the day and I don't regret anything)
In some places, it even seemed that the development in the series was so dynamic that I would like it more than "one of us" (Which had a lot of stuffiness. Please don't throw tomatoes 🥲)
The only irritant for me was an absolutely cardboard Maximus with an eternally offended face, it constantly seemed that he was about to cry. I was mad at him all season and in the end I was glad when he seemed to have died. And he's not dead :(
In general, I'm really looking forward to the new season!
The last of us is so miserable and boring that the igrofilm on YouTube looks more interesting. We would have reshot the cut scenes from the game 1 in 1 and it would have been a good series.
The Fallout series is better by all accounts. Still, to remove various illogical stupidity. However, the series here is such that maybe in the second season it will be justified somehow and it doesn't seem to be stupidity anymore.
/// they don't have anything against women, like///
I just wanted to ask you a question. And in the game, the Brotherhood has no celibacy vow. Well, all these religious teachings like that. Fast, read Our Father twenty times and so on.
So there isn't?
1. Dumb dialogues, plot and characters. It's immediately clear that bethesda and Amazon had their hands on the series (the recent guys won't let you lie), so such a low level of quality.
2. About the transukha as part of the Brotherhood of Steel organization, which is extremely intolerant to mutants and all kinds of deviations, I already wrote above, it's still funny.
3. I don't like Rick and Morty, so hearing Jerry's voice in Shelter 4 was like a blade on glass.
4. The very arch of Shelter 4 is absurd and devoid of any meaning - I consider it a filler.
5. Too much retro music and too little ambient. Fallouts 3-4 are similarly overloaded with such music, which, in comparison with f1-2, somewhat spoils the atmosphere. But it never happened to enjoy the talent of Ramin Javadi, really.
6. The character of Goggins is somewhat contradictory and illogical. He is an obvious villain - in particular, he kicked the unfortunate kid off the farm in front of his bati - so his alliance with Lucy at the end looks somehow wrong. Well, it's clear that he was playing some kind of character of his own, and not Fallout's.
7. The escape of Benjamin Linus looked very funny - in the scene with the turret, which could not hit him at point-blank range, they probably wanted to show how well he pumped Dexterity :D
8. The actor playing Maximus, well, no one at all.
9. The choice of equipment for shooting is not very clear - there are a lot of aberrations, blurring at the edges, the picture is not very good. They probably wanted it for the atmosphere, but I didn't appreciate it.
10. A comic doctor with a bunch of drugs, including for gulification - so-so, the level of humor is not very high. But we are dealing with bethesda, so see paragraph
1.11. Disappointed with the appearance of New Vegas - as for me, one of the most boring stories in the universe.
2. The brotherhood has become, in principle, very strange portrayed. Even if, like, they've already gone into moral decay and everything has fallen down. Some schmucks who can't even afford to make normal toilets. It seems that they are trained to be assistants to paladins, but no one knows what to do and what awaits them.
6. Well, the Ghoul has been looking for a family for 200 years. His wife and daughter are apparently also frozen in some kind of shelter and he wants to find them. Over the years, he has clearly changed a lot and on the way to this goal, it is not necessary for some kid from the farm to take revenge on him and stop him. Lucy is not a competitor to him, you can somehow use it for your own purposes, well, like he got into it like the daughter he is looking for. Like in The last of us, a frostbitten man who calmly kills people right and left eventually gets closer to a girl, because he had a daughter, etc.
I would say that an incomprehensible series has been released. And not as obvious trash and fumes as Twisted Metal. It seems that there are interesting moments with the same 31 shelters. But just for fun they take and add shelter 4. It's impossible to look at it seriously. Well, still, it's a fallout cosplay, like all the themed products of the Gazebo.
With nothing to do, you can look like a Mandalorian.
It could have been much worse, it's quite watchable here. Actually, I put all series 3 on, because it's not really junk, but there's nothing to admire either.
Even the Shrike from the Chronicles of Predatory Cities has more humanity.
Dad is also a vegetable - instead of slapping his son on the head and thereby saving him, he just stood and watched, although, according to the ghoul, he had participated in shootouts with him earlier.
A strange scene, in general, I did not enjoy such character development.
Допустим он его оглушил и ушел, оставив в живых, дальше что? Пацан находит его через какое-то время и стреляет в спину, это что за развитие персонажа будет? Просранное имо, он же именно что приспособившийся к пустоши, убей или будь убитым, в Вашем варианте он бы выбрал быть убитым. Папаша как я понимаю не увидел того, что увидел Купер, а именно что пацан на него сейчас набросится, поэтому папаша на полном серьезе думал что все норм.
Я считаю что хорошая сцена, вот представить что я этот пацан и как Вы сказали завалился этот чел в дом, рассказал что убил брата. Неужели я могу просто так дать убийце брата уйти? Даже если это будет стоить мне жизни? Тут каждый для себя должен ответить, я пацана понимаю, но и исход закономерный учитывая ситуацию. Мог бы промолчать и выжить, но смог бы он жить зная что поступил как трус и дал убийце брата просто уйти? Почему и говорю что Купер не злодей, потому что мог после пацана еще и его отца с сестрой тоже порешать, вдруг тоже мстить пойдут или еще чего, но в них он этого не увидел, т.е. не убивал просто ради убийства.
The juxtaposition of the uppity wholesome "golden age" music over the savage reality of post-apocalypse world provides a much needed contrast
Play Fallout 1-2, which, unlike 3 and 4, have the status of " legendary" - you will understand what it is about. There, by the way, retro tracks were played only in the intro and outro, and the rest of the time the atmosphere was pumped up with high-quality ambient.
Honestly, I'm thrilled with the first season. Despite very minor flaws or lapses, the creators exceeded all expectations. Respect and gratitude. I'm waiting for the banquet to continue)))
The season turned out to be great. Characters, costumes, development, graphics - everything is great. There will obviously be a second season, and I'm really looking forward to it. In general, it is rich, beautiful and interesting
I watched with pleasure, the references were pleasing, and they didn't even look mediocre!
There were, of course, various mistakes, but I just forgot them, because I enjoyed the series!
Well, Ramin Javadi is as good as ever!
In the end, I also thought, it's a pity that this is a TV series, I would have played such a story myself! Well, New Vegas at the end is just wow!
And what about the dog???
I didn't play the game, but I waited for a reason, I watched all the episodes during the day and I liked everything)
I saw very few references: a shepherd dog and a boy in the refrigerator, and a revived volt-boy. Experimental shelters are default, like ghouls, like kernels, ncr and caps. So personally, I didn't have enough plot intersections with games anymore. These hooks would take up 5% of the timekeeping, but at the expense of memories they created a deeper dive.
I didn't like the open landscapes. Of the familiar mutated animals, only cockroaches.
8 episodes, but the season is not much remembered, it seems to be a reference these days, but the common goal of all the minor main characters somehow belittles their importance. Again, wishes: more independence, like in Game of Thrones, when the Snow guards the Wall, the Lanisters have their own worries. And so they are companions with a very poorly developed motivation, well, it is impossible for an hour of ethereal relationships to go a full-fledged path from "I'll kill you " to "come with me", too deliberately.
Here is the same cowboy, damn it, he ran half the film after his head, then after the heroine, if his claim is in the end: "where is my family" - released into the air by her father. Why did he exchange it with two suckers in the market, if in his perception it is the main key and a guide for communication with a person of that era. How, after living 200 years in the wasteland, he does not know where the observatory is located and who lives there, there is also a whole city that the incubator girl found in 2 accounts.
after all, his storyline in the series did not begin at all with the fact that he was sitting in a coffin?
Why would he need Lucy to get information from her father? He didn't give him any information with her either, just left her there and ran away.
plus, it caused confusion as a woman who drowns for cold fusion, light in all the houses of the wasteland, in fact world peace, shot half of 33 shelters for the sake of capturing the caretaker, who was silent all season, and in the end, without torture and proper motivation, gave out all the passwords in a minute, when in fact they could just take him away a daughter under the resettlement program after marriage.
In general, visual is the least of the problems nowadays, but with the story, script and plot in such a rich world with a lot of loyal fans, they could have done much better
About the massacre in Volta, she came pretending to be a raider and with a gang of raiders. Perhaps the disguise meant that it was necessary to kill someone, but the raiders - don't get it. Or maybe she just considered the residents useless NPCs who are not important for her story and goals (the lives of several dozen for the lives of many and all that). Otherwise, she would have just come on her own behalf.
at the same time, meldaver only needed a password from the caretaker, well, in fact, after killing 30 people, she would have cut off his daughter's finger and received all the information, and in the end even this was not required, although the ionizer was in her hands.
In general, I have huge questions about the setting of the plot, personally I do not consider it logical and intriguing. In my understanding, thriller moments are needed here, as in lost, and here there is more Myasilov as a duma, and not development as in folk
It is a common misconception that a nuclear war is for an hour or two, and then the end of civilization. :-(
But actually, after the exchange of blows, the war will continue further. And it will last for more than one year. :-(
Фракции тоже думаю реалистичны, религия или какая-то еще общая идея всегда очень актуальна в катастрофические времена. Анклав там "мы здесь власть, мы наведем порядок", Братство "мы не допустим того, чтобы это произошло снова" и т.д. условно успокаивая людей, давая цель и надежду в безнадежное время.
А вот касательно перестройки, тут я считаю два главных вопроса. 1. Каковы реальные последствия взрыва атомной бомбы? Я слышала что на самом деле не так ужасно, как мы привыкли думать, т.е. что не сотня-две лет должно пройти, а там какие-то реальные цифры, чуть ли не через пару недель самый ужас радиации должен пройти, а лет через пять чуть ли не все как было почти, тут не цитируйте, я говорю нужно уточнять. Короче, если радиация действительно долгое время является критическим фактором, влияющим на воду, еду (включая урожайность), возможность выхода из помещения и прочее, то вот от степени и времени воздействия этой радиации будет многое зависеть.
В общем думаю сильно варьировалось бы от места к месту. Тот же Анклав имел заранее и военных и ученых, Братство имело военных, возможно врачей и техников каких тоже, в остальном по-книжке, как я понимаю. А условные фермеры или бухгалтеры маловероятно обладают знаниями для воссоздания довоенной инфраструктуры.
What I don't understand is is she so damn lucky that the wedding request came at that very moment, or did her subordinates sit in the shelter for a long time and wait for the right moment? And if the second, then what, were they sitting surrounded by devastation and corpses, not even tidying up a little for their own minimal comfort? Or did they just somehow connect to the shelter's communication system, and monitor the messages, and return at the right moment?
If it was explained in the series, then maybe I missed it. Or is it just a plot assumption, and it's not worth going into too much?
Why she used raiders and not NKR fighters at the same time is another question, no less interesting. Personally, I am concerned about why she, realizing that most, in fact, innocent residents of the shelter (including the daughter of her beloved passion) may be at risk - here, of course, the assumption is being made, and such a fat one
Somehow McLachlan got to the Strip quickly.
Overall, the season is good.
I hope it will be at least the same in the future.
And not worse, but this is the end of the story in the middle of a word)
I've been waiting for the series for 10 years to wait a few more years for the new season.
The appearance of super mutants and the death claw was not enough (but at least his skull was shown)
I admit that I did not play games (only in building a shelter on the phone), I really like the idea, I decided to watch the series here. The episodes were watched in one gulp, so I even said several times "that the series has already ended??".
Questions, of course, remain after watching. Unfortunately, not all the arches were closed. In general, we are waiting for the second season and hope that it will also be interesting.
Nevertheless, I cannot but mention the main merit in the development of the lore of the universe. We were finally told why Voltek was conducting these crazy experiments in shelters. Finally, there is logic in this. Of course, some experiments were ridiculous and stupid, and they remained, but nevertheless. And they also showed us who started the war.
I was waiting for sabzh, but with misgivings. And he eventually exceeded all expectations.
I dearly love all fallouts in my own way, so there was a serious demand from the show. It's all the more surprising that they didn't just give out the best film adaptation of the game in history, but quite a full-fledged sequel to the universe.
The version with a golden "not a billion ", who wants to create a utopia for himself on mortal earth, through a full-fledged reboot of civilization, as well as cultivating ideal slaves for himself (quite an evolutionary path), fits perfectly into our modern realities and popular conspiracy theories.
Yes, and they brought the main arches together beautifully in the final, the pcm arch of Lucy and the Ghoul.
A pleasant and charismatic cast of characters, excellent visual, soundtrack, and a good script from people who definitely love this universe and understand it. Such a level of expertise is incredibly rare for a modern film adaptation, because they are already used to the fact that the showrunner and scribblers do not care about the source material.
Among the minuses are the unfinished arches of the Brotherhood (not counting the personal arch of Marcus himself) and all this cold synthesis movement, which are simply lost against the background of the main plot and serve so far only to bring the characters from point A to point B.
Well, I was a little confused by the fact that they did not show the danger of the wastelands, where various representatives of fauna and humanoids are at every turn in the games. It is clear that all sorts of super mutants and death claws were saved for the future, but they could at least show some kind of radscorpion once or twice. And then the world turned out to be very empty.
Well, or a meeting with Yao Gai.
And then they seemed to forget that in addition to the danger coming from people, there is also a sea of all sorts of hostile animals in the wasteland and survival is not a joke.
Another thing that comes to mind is her obvious connection with the 4th shelter, perhaps the scientists there conducted some kind of experiment on her at the very beginning, which saved her from aging, but again this is just a guess.
Apparently Nolan and Joy decided to shake the old days, remember their past work, and take a little from the MDZ)) which is even very cool.
I hope the second season will not take long to wait 🙂
Regarding the series itself, of the minuses, I can only note the excessive idiocy of everyone and everything, especially the Brotherhood. Yes, yes, we all know how the games bantered on the same topics, but still not that much. There were also questions about how they showed intelligent ghouls, some of them turned out to be too powerful against the background of their counterparts in the games. And of course it was extremely unpleasant to see what they did to Shady Sands and the NKR =(
Otherwise, it's a great series, I'm really looking forward to the sequel. I really liked the way the scriptwriters are bantering about the current situation in the states - all this naivety of the residents of shelters and kindness to the raiders, a direct comparison with the left agenda and not understanding such people, which many scumbags they protect would do to them if they were left alone
The only thing I'm thinking about now is how all this will affect the further meta-plot of the franchise. I'm afraid Todd has released a genie from a bottle that he can't control, and that can change the ent of the universe much more than he and his Gazebo. But Nolan is still a fan of the franchise, and clearly proved this in the first season with a bunch of Easter eggs for his own, and in general, not with a disregard for the original, so keep your fists
10 NC caps out of 10
I would love to watch a separate series about the ghoul, and his career as a bounty hunter. The top branch turned out to be
Аж мурашки побежали.
In general, taking into account the claims voiced above, you can put a solid 6 out of 10 to the series, provided that the viewer is not familiar with the series.
ps. Moten looks and looks like Denzel Washington more than Denzel Washington's son)))
1. Why didn't everything in this world rot in 2 centuries and how did I understand after several nuclear bombings? All these cars are parked here and there. All sorts of toys, vending machines and stuff? Was there an explanation for this?
2. Why, at the first meeting of the ghoul with the knight, he did not kill him. And in the last one, suddenly remembered the vulnerability in the suit and killed them all there? Even if he really only remembered, there are places on this suit that aren't covered with bulletproof armor anyway. In general, the hero's scenic armor or what was it?
3. As I understand it, the Volt-Tech plan is not canon. And the whole ideology seems to be not capitalism for the sake of capitalism. That is, it is precisely the modern social agenda, judging by what I have read.
In any case, I still did not understand how those smart guys behind closed doors wanted to make money on all this by destroying everything they had acquired, all the comfort around them and all the human resources.
And so the series is cool. I liked the Ghoul from gg, that's really a resident of the post-apocalypse. I have fully adapted. He is consistent in his actions, they are all logical. In the context of the world, he is not a villain at all, almost a hero.
I didn't understand why he hadn't found the entrance to the shelter in 200 years. Over there, the 4th shelter takes over, and there seems to be a connection between the shelters. And the raiders somehow break into shelters. They were recognized in the first episode.
Maximus seemed like some kind of scum to me. He looks like a sociopath who tried to play the role of a knight. His moral compass is at zero. As well as intelligence. The knight's path has passed, now he wants to hang out with Lucy in a shelter wherever.
Lucy is funny. She is still an optimistic humanist, but she has completed a quick course on mastering life on the surface.
It is known where, I saw an interesting comment about this. Quote:
///Well, at that moment he was in a playful mood. The ghoul initially went to the middle of the clearing to troll everyone. And he also played with the little black boy, paying attention that that recruit with a shitty training, and out of a sense of solidarity with the warriors, he might not want to kill him, just interrupted the management of the security forces for 1 poke with a knife. How would it be cooler than shooting at a weak panel. All opponents (counter strike game) indulge in this.///
Please.
In the series, they wanted to wipe out most of humanity by raising obedient greenhouse slaves in shelters from generations of cruel experiments (who will survive and undergo unnatural selection in these experiments), so that they can then remain alone in the devastated world, build the world from scratch the way they want it to be, and manage the way they want. "We will wait until time destroys all our enemies and competitors and sit down to rule, and whoever time does not destroy, we will destroy with nooks" - we have expressed this message. They don't need profit, they need power and a world built on their desires and vision. And when the NKR began to raise its head and slowly flourish, it was blown up, too, because they don't need it, so that someone was formed not according to their will and orders. Most likely, as a result, everything did not go exactly according to plan, but still.
This is not a simple meager retelling of the game, like the film adaptation of Last of Us, which in my opinion turned out to be quite average. This is a separate work in the universe shared with the games. There is a similar atmosphere, tone, humor, music, locations, but a completely different time and characters. And what amazing characters they are. It was a pleasure to follow their adventures. Perhaps only Maximus upset him, sometimes he did not understand his motivation and actions.
The series perfectly replays many moments from the video game when you have a few minutes of serious drama and horror, and in the next few minutes there is such an absurd and ridiculous situation that you just laugh out loud.
Well, one can't help but say that Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy, whose work I've been following since Person of Interest, were responsible for the series, and everything turned out just fine. A perfectly calibrated picture, an excellent plot that throws twists literally in every episode. The finale is simply made of twists.
In general, for me this is the best adaptation of a video game (Arcane does not count, there is still an animated series), my warmest recommendations to all fans and anyone who wants to watch an interesting series in a very cool setting
To be honest, this Ghoul really pisses me off. Too imbecile. He has endless cartridges for the miracle cannon, one hundred percent accuracy. In complete darkness, it hits the vulnerable points of the power armor. A cold-blooded killer who kills innocent people. I wish him all the bad things.
Although, if you think about it, this is a direct mirror of the characters of the players in Fallout)))
I also note that it is unlikely that the Observatory would have wires capable of withstanding the load necessary to power an entire city. Everything would have burned out to hell.
In general, the last episode is kind of blurry and hurried. There is little certainty
А меня Гуль радует) Что это игрок, в плане скиллов и прокачки 100% но у него и было дохера лет для практики. А вообще я 99% гарантии даю, что в конечном итоге Купер будет главным фаворитом сериала, очень мало останется тех, кто его терпеть не может, он нейтрал, а не злодей, пока показали его боллее жестокую сторону, потом он там спасет кого-нибудь или типа того и на него посмотрят в другом свете.
The fact that the ghoul is a villain and a bastard without principles is indisputable. Even considering his sad story about his family and hundreds of years of wandering, there is still somehow no sympathy and sympathy for him because of his vile deeds.
As for the power grid, it's a fantastic modern-style movie, they don't think about such little things. An entire city with apartments with unserved wiring for 200 years after exposure to nuclear weapons lit up at the click of your fingers :D
I would also like a bigger and more detailed denouement - still not such a deep movie to try to think of something.
So what if she's a ghoul…
It's kind of cold on Lucy's part.
12. The authors don't care not only about the ENT of the original fallouts (I've already come to terms with this), but also about the ENT of the Besedkovskys. In particular, Shelter 111 from f4 was for testing freezing people in cryocambers for long periods. Here, volt-tech famously freezes its top managers without any tests for hundreds of years. Very logical.
13. Lucina is kind "godmother" Moldaver aka "you look so much like your mother", who kept Lucy's ghoul-mom out of warm feelings, without any questions put Lucy under a radioactive rapist from the Wastelands, who was supposed to after the wedding" immediately kill Lucy.
Moldaver's collaboration, as a representative of the NKR, with wild raiders from the Wastelands also raises questions.
Wow, and I also swore at the character of Goggins, they say, what an illogical one.
And Moldaver didn't come to the shelter to Lucy and she didn't know that she was going to get married, she doesn't keep track of the family tree. She came to her father, who, by the way, if for some reason you have already forgotten Shady Sense, blew up and killed more than 40k people, including women and children, and destroyed everything. No one was going to choose the culprits. By the way, even these same "raiders" stated that the neighboring 32 shelter was not peaceful at all. It can be assumed that top managers had a whole bunker with top guards to carry out all military assignments. Because just saying that they are the smartest will not achieve anything, you also need to pave the way for those who refuse to cooperate. Those who wanted to take revenge on them were through the roof. By the way, this is not to mention the fact that they were called raiders by Lucy, who had never heard of the NKR before and did not even understand varieties at all.
About Moldaver, they also said that Lucy's mom and the children had left the Shelter, so she was definitely aware of Lucy and her brother in the Shelter and that they were in mortal danger.
The Pro does not understand the raiders - is it probably those peaceful moderate civilized citizens of the NKR who wanted to carry out a humanitarian mission to electrify the city, just staged a peaceful humanitarian bloodbath in the Shelter? Understood, I have no more questions.
By the way, judging by what peaceful civilized residents of the NKR capital did in the Shelter at the wedding, and then in the casemates, then Shady Sands is not really a pity - since the same monsters and sadists lived there and in neighboring cities of the NKR. This is if we follow your strange logic and really consider them citizens with broken hearts :D
They're not looking, they're looking for cons.
I love the atmosphere, that's what they shoot for. What kind of stuffers are you, aren't you tired of it yourself?
True nuka break fans have filed away, if anything.
- All right, then
Of the questions that no one seems to have written yet: if everything is frozen at 31, then who brought such a delightful order to 32 in one night? with:
The Vault-Tec meeting is like a fanservice parade. There is Mr. House, as a timid representative (also joking about the casino), and REPCONN, and references to experiments in shelters, and in general it looks like a fat reference to Dr. Strangelove.
The very idea that corporations had a direct impact on nuclear war is quite in the spirit of the series. In general, I am glad that in the series such an influence was given to Volt-Tech and their pre-war activities.
A couple of small details, like a banner with Sunset Sunsparilla and the code 101097, referring to the release date of the first Folych, also pleased.
Well, a panorama of Vegas and a flight along the Strip in the credits... Goosebumps. And in general, the screensavers and credits in the series are beautifully made, I watched them every time.
Shelter 31.. well, a typical non-control shelter, albeit a bit like 111. Nothing original, but it was interesting to follow them.
Cooper is the pearl of the series, a very charismatic Ghoul, I hope they will pay even more attention to him in the second season.
Why there is a branch about the Brotherhood in the series is not very clear to me, but the Gazebo loves them, so I'm not surprised.
I liked the series as a whole, the expectations were much lower. I will be waiting for the second season.
P.S. I've read a lot of negative reviews and therefore I don't understand why people still expect the Gazebo to be a clear follower of the canon of the first games. After three, four and 76, I can't believe it at all
It's great that you haven't forgotten about the Vegas ticket
I can't call the series uniquely good, but there are things in it that I liked. I hope that in the second season the writers will approach their work more competently.
There were hints of the Vault-Tec conspiracy in previous games.
14. Shelters 31, 32 and 33 are literally in the very center of LA and are not hidden in any way. The master from Fallout 1, it turns out, simply ignores them :D
And why, in S01E04, did the hospital ghoul Roger get killed?
When viewing it, I thought in order to grind it into oriental medicine to enhance Japanese strength. But then it's not displayed anywhere.
Replenish your supplies with them? Bloodthirsty. But then, there was only nothing left on the Ghoul's backpack. Did they tear him offscreen right from Lucy, like hyenas? %-(
Out of compassion? One last help for a friend? But then what's all this for?
I misunderstood even that. The scene was not continued. What's the sex about? Is someone watching this scene more widely than me?
It's a great series! I didn't regret that I started watching
I hope that there will be a continuation.
Plus, this spirit of adventure and exploration, unusual locations that complement the world and stories.
The props work is fantastic. One power suit is worth a lot. The graphon is like in a big expensive movie.
I liked that we carefully developed the universe further in some details, like the same cold fusion.
Well, the application for New Vegas is very interesting. There are even more beaten-down factions and charismatic places. The season was definitely a success!
Very atmospheric scenery, great music and titles that I didn't even want to miss.
Walton Goggins did a great job, both as a Ghoul and as Cooper, it was interesting to watch him.
I'm looking forward to the next season, I want more Lucy, Ghoul and CX404.
The year is 2296. More than two hundred years have passed since the nuclear war. The surviving remnants of humanity live relatively serenely in underground shelters, unaware of how a completely non-idyllic new world order with mutants, cannibals, sects and wars has been built on the surface for decades... wars that never change. Naive Lucy, an inhabitant of shelter 33, who left her native penates for the first time and went in search of her kidnapped father, will have to face such an unfriendly environment. Her path will periodically intersect with two colorful characters: Maximus, the squire (newly consecrated) of the knight of the Brotherhood of Steel, and Ghoul (long converted), a bounty hunter. And all these three, in the best traditions of the Good, bad, and evil Sergio Leone, will with enviable regularity intentionally or not help and hinder each other on the way to the cherished unifying and separating goal.
In short, reader, I watched the series Fallout and I will not play the expert of the franchise... So, a reference to the wrong video game about the post-apocalypse.
In general, indeed, somehow it so happened that, despite my almost thirty-five years of playing experience, I am familiar with the Fallout series only slightly. In the first two parts, I played quite a bit - at that time I was not interested in the role-playing genre, and the three (along with New Vegas) and the four came out when it was getting harder and harder to find time for hours of adventures every year (hello, by the way, bought, but not completed games from Rockstar, starting with the fourth GTA). Of course, some things reached me anyway, but - I repeat - I'm not an expert, no. Accordingly, the opinion will be unbiased, for every little thing that somehow does not correspond or contradicts the games in the series, I simply will not be able to find fault, and, in general, even if I could, I probably would not want to.
These are the amazing times when the curse of video game adaptations came to naught. Sometimes contradictory things come out, and frankly bad ones, but the overall quality has certainly grown by a head in recent years. It's not so scary for your favorite series, as it was, say, in the nineties, when filmmakers (with rare exceptions like the first Deadly Battle) simply did not understand why they love a particular game. And all the more gone are the days when the German Uwe Boll massively bought licenses and cynically laundered money (Nazi gold, yeah) through his adaptations, simultaneously knocking out reviewers for criticism. Nevertheless, I was a little afraid of what would happen with the Fallout. Yes, not only Jonathan Nolan (with his wife Lisa Joy) was a producer, but also a director. For me personally, Christopher Nolan's films, where Jonathan had a hand in the script, are the most interesting and lively. And, of course, Jonathan and Lisa were the authors of the serial The World of the Wild West, the first season of which is one of the brightest, smartest, brain-crushing projects of the last X years on television. On the other hand, they also seem to be directly related to subsequent seasons, which were much weaker. On the third hand, the married couple, it seems, is vulnerable to the West (especially closer to the finale), because they began to engage in Fallout, and Nolan somehow flirted so much in the third part that he did not have time to write scripts. And, on the fourth hand, Nolan is exactly what producers and directors are, but not screenwriters and showrunners. Seeing the final result, of course, I will not believe that Nolan never influenced the screenwriters, but the main ones in terms of the plot were still some Geneva Robertson-Duoret (relaunch of Lara Croft, the first Captain Marvel) and Graham Wagner (the long-running sketch show little known to us "Portlandia"). I would say a dubious reputation. Not an outright failure, but it raises questions.
Nevertheless, everything turned out as it should, and even better. "Fallout" is good at almost everything. Firstly, this is actually a full-fledged fifth part of the game - the action of the series takes place nine years after the events of the four. Yes, I suspect there are some discrepancies with the canon, but while Bethesda, led by Todd Howard, is cooking up a real game sequel, even such a development is bread for fans. Despite the fact that the same Howard was a consultant for screenwriters. This is partly why the adaptation, of course, in terms of style, still tends more towards the later parts of the games. Secondly, "Fallout" works from and to as an independent work. You may not know what was in the games, what kind of constant references to them flash in the frame, but you will have fun, regardless of your degree of immersion in the world created a long time ago.
Surprisingly, on modern TV (and streaming services), it turns out that you can create great things without mentioning the agenda, taking on the main roles of charismatic actors and beautiful actresses. "Fallout" it is difficult to call a super serious work. This is an excellent black comedy with a considerable amount of naturalistic violence (however, there are boundaries, of course). However, where drama is needed, the authors skillfully escalate, and the actors act out. Not to mention the sharp political satire and subtext in the spirit of Dr. Strangelove Kubrick, which is revealed in full force by the last episode (even if such comments look slightly hypocritical from the products of the Bezos company Amazon). However, there will be a place to think before that. This is facilitated by a narrative that not only switches between the three main characters/antiheroes: Lucy, Maximus and Ghoul, but also between two timelines: events before the nuclear war and modernity. By the way, it is in this approach that the ears of the photographer are visible... Jonathan Nolan. One of the main characters, Ghoul, is such a Man in Black from the Wild West World. Just find ten differences (spoiler: you won't find that many). But my respect is to Walton Goggins, he got his own unique PMT. I've been watching the actor since the days of the police series Shield - the man grows above himself without stopping. So, both time lines offer their own set of riddles, which in the end deftly (and logically) intertwine into one tangle.
You won't be bored anyway. There is not a single overtly passing or weak episode in the first season. Somewhere there will be a lot of action, somewhere they will significantly furrow their eyebrows and dump out another batch of questions / answers, somewhere they will hit into unrestrained black fun: whether it refers to the witch hunt / communists in the past or to the harsh realities of the nuclear wasteland, somewhere a new unusual location will be shown or a strange character will be introduced. However, it is not a single plot - the picture looks expensive-rich, one hundred percent immersion, everything is authentic. I can't remember a single frame where something screamed "Naked CGI!". The soundtrack is gorgeous. It is clear that all (or almost all) songs are taken from games, and in games, in turn, they appeared from the golden fund of American music of the forties and fifties. There can be no complaints at all, however, one of my favorite modern composers Ramin Javadi (The World of the Wild West, by the way, yes, he is again], Game of Thrones, Prison Break) I didn't pass by either.
Well, the atmosphere of retrofuturism (as if taken for granted for those who have seen at least one frame from the games) is, of course, very cool.
To be honest, according to the trailer of the series, there was a feeling that everything would work out, but the fact that everything would work out so well makes you believe that not everything is lost on modern TV. And even within the framework of one channel, for every "Rings of power" there will be a "Fallout".
P.S. Something, of course, is not very good hovering in the noosphere about nuclear war, yes. The creators on this topic became animated. However, given the realities, it is not surprising. Let's hope for the best.
Rating: 9 Nuka Cola caps out of 10
-7 minute 38 seconds of episode 1 show in shelter 33, at least 8 children no older than 10-12 years, after which about their existence do they forget in principle how?
-Why didn't Hank MacLean recognize Lee Moldaver, why didn't he have any questions why the caretaker of shelter 32 is not a representative of 31?! (In the context of everything that will be told next, he decided not to spoil the intrigue for the audience.)
-Why does Moldaver need a code, and 100 computer hacking skills didn't help? But the most important thing is that she sat on her ass without doing anything to help Siggi Wilzig (from the Enclave), the fact that the component for thermonuclear fusion in the end turned out to have a whole orchestra in the bushes!
- There is no safety of shelter 31 at all. Go who you want to kill the sleepers, there is zero security. There are no cameras, there has been no connection for 3 years, no one cares, the entrance codes do not change!
- None of the management knew what was going on in shelter 32, so they had the opportunity to put everything in order and, by the way, fix the gateways between the crossings.
- Residents of 32, let's write with our blood that we know a terrible secret, but what kind of secret won't we tell, and then we'll all drink together?
- If you read the Ent, the NKR breathed incense, there is no water, constant crop failures, they are raking in from the Legion, BS and Mr. House's robots. TV series: Voltek- "we have been waiting for 219 years and our main weapon is time, don't let's drop the bomb."
And the actor of the main character for the brotherhood, Aaron, is very similar to the son of Mr. Denzel Washington ... =)
What did you like:
Gray morality. There is not a single purely positive character. Everyone has a catch. Except that Lucy is still a sweet idealist, but her character is also being tempered.
Visual. Honestly, I was getting high from the view of the wastelands. I love beautifully shown deserts.
Humor. Oh, yes, black humor is great here. She screamed like a seagull several times.
Ghoul. Awesome character, I love them. Cynical character, interesting storyline, charismatic actor. A complete set for happiness. And Lucy, think about it. You can do better chemistry with Cooper if you're with Maxim. Please think about it.
What didn't you like:
The local world. All locations are within walking distance, as if we use fast movement.
It's too empty. At the beginning, there were at least cockroaches and that amphibian from the lake. Then completely zero. It is clear that they focused on the main plot, and the budget is not rubbery, but I would like to see more different animals. Well, just some bandits, looters, illegal traders. Something that would enliven the world.
Maximus. Potentially, the character seems to be interesting. But how insipid the actor is acting out. I don't know, maybe they gave him such an installation, but in any case it doesn't look very good. And my eye is already twitching when the flashback with him and the refrigerator flashes once again. Stop repeating yourself, please! I also memorized this episode the first three times. Stop it!
I haven't played any games yet. Well, that is, I only managed to set the third fallout, completed training, and went out into the open world. There, some bandits killed me in the first location, and that's my hero's path so far.
Therefore, the series was evaluated as an outsider who was not familiar with Lore. And I got a sincere pleasure from 7 episodes out of 8. Success, I think.
The thrash entertainment bribed me. It's cool that they don't completely slide into thrash, but balance the whole thing with drama.
The drama is certainly a bit boring, but the plot is twisted quite well, it's interesting to watch it.
Definitely waiting for the second season.
The only question is to the translators (and the commentators who followed them) who are about Titus, Maximus - and do they also call Spartacus Spartacus?
200 years have passed, but it works properly!
I really liked the intrigue and unexpected twist in the series with the fact that the owners of the shelter themselves staged explosions.
We would also need a series with a plot: the owners of online cinemas secretly gather with the owners of courier services / marketplaces and decide for their own benefit to create a dangerous virus that will cause a lockdown, self-isolation.