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Fallout — s01e05 — The Past

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Duration: 45 min.
Released: 10.04.202410.04.2024 15:00
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1 season
s01e05
s01e01 - The End
s01e02 - The Target
s01e03 - The Head
s01e04 - The Ghouls
s01e05 - The Past
s01e06 - The Trap
s01e07 - The Radio
s01e08 - The Beginning

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Nog
Nog
11 Apr 16:50 #
This unbending optimism and Lucy's tenacious naivety both irritate and inspire me. On the one hand, she is still the same girl who grew up in greenhouse conditions, on the other, adapts quickly enough and can stand up for herself.
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kindofake
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11 Apr 17:17 #
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Nog
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11 Apr 17:16 #
Of the entire game series, I actively played only the second part, and it was a very long time ago, so I can't call myself a good expert on the lore of this universe. I have already forgotten a lot, even more have been changed or added in later parts. But I remember the New California Republic, and it's sad to see that it collapsed here.
And from the second part, I remember the Enclave - the former US government, which organized a network of shelters. It is quite possible that what is happening in shelters 31, 32 and 33 has something to do with them. In the game, however, we are winning this very Enclave, as far as I remember, but part of the organization could have been preserved.
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gkalian
gkalian
11 Apr 20:42 #
First of all, what happened to Shady Sands and at what point did the bomb fall on the city? The events of the second part take place in 2241 and there were no skyscrapers there. Okay, let's put it down to the technical difficulties of the game from back in 1998. And at the same time, there were not only Shelters 13 and 15 near the city, but also a hidden Shelter 4, which somehow the Creator did not reach at the time. It's a little strange, but let's assume.

It looks like some kind of strange attempts to cancel the NKR and what was in the first parts or something. I can't say that I like the move with the destruction of the NKR capital, I hope they will tell you more about it - who, how and why.

Secondly, what is there for such a tricky Shelter 33 and who managed to clean up so well and quickly in Shelter 32? And then what is the idea of these three shelters connected to each other?
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Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Apr 02:04 #
@gkalian: it's not a fact that skyscrapers are exactly Shady Sands, because the bomb didn't fall on them, but nearby, but the question is still open, yes
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gkalian
gkalian
12 Apr 02:14 #
@Skyscore: Well, it's a little strange, because Shady Sands was a farming settlement originally and it's unrealistic to build skyscrapers in the post-apocalypse environment. Was there a big city nearby?
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Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Apr 02:25 #
@gkalian: I do not remember that there was an unambiguous answer to this in the first parts. But it is more than realistic to build skyscrapers in 50 years (the same Chicago), but it requires, of course, a developed economy and a relatively strong state with a strong economy. Well, in short, I would just mark it with a question for now, I don't see much contradiction.
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Skyscore
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12 Apr 02:28 #
although I have just watched the screensaver on the credits - it is clear that the Shady Sands school is a small building in the middle of skyscrapers, it is unlikely that they are pre-war
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Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Apr 07:06 #
Damn, though... In the latter, I saw an undisturbed shadishance in a flashback, with destroyed skyscrapers in the background.. xs is shorter
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porco
porco
17 Apr 23:59 #
@gkalian: Well, obviously, the 31st was cleaned up
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mamkerink
mamkerink
11 Apr 22:51 #
Has the NKR collapsed? In Mojave, they clearly won the battle for the chip :)
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Skyscore
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12 Apr 02:11 #
@mamkerink: now I better understand the anger of the fans of deuce and New Vegas at metacritic, that's where, like, the spit is. So far, I don't see how dropping a bomb on Shady Sands cancels the NKR, but we'll see, of course. So far, everything is very intriguing.

offline - of course, I also really love New Vegas with all my heart, but all this eternal deification of Obsidians by everyone in a row is not even cool anymore. This prevents you from looking soberly at the advantages and disadvantages. In particular, no matter how many times I went through NV, I could not get rid of a feeling of dissatisfaction in terms of the ending and its significance, in terms of the integrity of the story. Unlike the troika, which, although there were a few short dialogues, had its own charm, and I always feel very sorry for how they dip her face in the dirt every time compared to NV. For me, NV lacked the very conciseness that was in the top three, and balance. By the way, the second part suffered from the same thing compared to the first.

Here the guys are trying to tell their story, I'm very interested in how it will be woven into the canon

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gkalian
gkalian
12 Apr 02:15 #
@Skyscore:
gt;So far I don't see how dropping a bomb on shady sands cancels the NKR
To be honest, I didn't see it either. Maybe the very fact that a bomb was dropped on the capital of the NKR, and the NKR is a favorite faction of many, angers me.
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Сериальщик732
Сериальщик732
12 Apr 09:15 #
@mamkerink: In Vegas, you can actually hit them with a nuclear bomb.

In general, even without this, they say that the republic is barely breathing, huge corruption, war with everyone you can: raiders, khans, brotherhood of steel, Legion, etc. So they couldn't stand it. Most likely the canon that their brotherhood was destroyed or the courier in three endings
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Redopera
Redopera
15 Apr 12:18 #
@Сериальщик732: The bombing in New Vegas affects geographically only the Mojave Wasteland. Ulysses chose the targets of the strikes, and it seems that the Courier, if he decides to do so, is not invited to choose other targets. And the goals are not that the centers of the factions were, but like a supply line or the homeland of Ulysses. And if so, then McCarran Airport and Cottonwood Cove remain intact, that is, the Mojave base of the NKR remains intact. Then the Courier's actions do not affect Shady Sands at all, and New Vegas is not related to the series. While.
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Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Apr 02:14 #
The moment when Lucy and Titus enter the hospital unlocked a memory - the tingling of heels when entering any building: What awaits you, mole rats, raiders, ghouls, radiation? Are you pumped enough?
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straminergon
straminergon
21 Apr 23:11 #
@Skyscore: The main thing is not to be super mutants 😭
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ngc4319
ngc4319
24 Apr 14:50 #
It is very interesting how they will be portrayed in the series
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AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
12 Apr 03:44 #
I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that the brotherhood themselves dropped a bomb on the competition. Of course, this is more in the style of an Enclave, but who knows what Todd got into his head there
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Skyscore
Skyscore
12 Apr 04:03 #
@AtomicTroll: but it seems to me that it's someone from shelters 31-33, a mom, a folder, or this fiery demoness. For the brotherhood, it's not according to the code somehow, dropping a bomb on a peaceful settlement of 30k people
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AtomicTroll
AtomicTroll
12 Apr 04:35 #
@Skyscore: and if they did not perceive the NKR as a peaceful population?)
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Skyscore
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12 Apr 08:05 #
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AtomicTroll
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12 Apr 17:06 #
@Skyscore: кек
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Yurmas
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12 Apr 10:36 #
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plalex
plalex
12 Apr 23:14 #
Have you thought about looking for a water chip in Shelter 32? 🤔
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Falleny
Falleny
13 Apr 00:15 #
@plalex: It feels like the water chip was just a gag and was forgotten about. Or it all worked itself out behind the scenes.
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Yurmas
Yurmas
13 Apr 13:25 #
@Falleny: yes, there are mistakes here, not without this, and I think they will still be found and noticed.
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МаркВалерийКальд
МаркВалерийКальд
17 Apr 17:31 #
@Yurmas: this is not a blunder, but just a passing reference to amuse the fans, there this topic was unequivocally hushed up immediately
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Molumen
Molumen
14 Apr 01:23 #
The game fallout 4 has a Vault tech story, and information that different shelters are built for experiments (and sufficiently wild and inhumane) on the inhabitants. This is exactly what we see in shelters 31-32-33. It seems that in the 31st shelter there are experimenters, and in the 32nd and 33rd there are experimental subjects.
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utau
utau
15 Apr 16:08 #
@Molumen: Stop scribbling spoilers, not all parts of the Fallout have passed
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Skyscore
Skyscore
15 Apr 23:40 #
@utau: you shouldn't be minced, actually, it's fair. We get carried away, of course, but it's hard without it
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utau
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17 Apr 17:27 #
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rogoyx
rogoyx
19 Apr 13:56 #
@utau: To be fair, I had the same thought, even though I wasn't playing.
I will add that maybe these three shelters have no purpose at all to come to the surface, but simply constantly move from shelter to shelter, creating some problems and dangers, jointly overcoming them indefinitely for the common "future settlement of America."
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bcm1nt
bcm1nt
14 Apr 13:22 #
I really liked the series, I like the story of shelters 31-32-33, and how Lucy is trying to survive in the wasteland
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phantasm
phantasm
19 Apr 00:00 #
@bcm1nt: You can't exactly call it survival.. rather, he is looking for problems on his fifth point and only miraculously remains alive
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AlbinoDeer
AlbinoDeer
16 Apr 02:37 #
Can someone explain to me the story of Maximus, how he survived the explosions, where the brotherhood came from, he is 200+ years old?
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Nog
Nog
16 Apr 03:02 #
@AlbinoDeer: These are not the explosions, he is just a descendant of those people who stayed on the surface or came out of shelters earlier. He had already survived one of the showdowns between the new forces.
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Hidji
Hidji
16 Apr 05:19 #
@AlbinoDeer: Shady Sands is the capital of the NKR, which, according to the history of the series, was bombed a dozen years ago, and Max survived an explosion in the refrigerator (Indiana Jones vibes). Apparently, he joined the Brotherhood later, or they picked him up in one of their campaigns. But it would be better to watch the whole season, then there will be almost no questions left).
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Abnormality
Abnormality
16 Apr 14:26 #
Excellent cleaning visited 32e)) We would have done the cleaning earlier, and we wouldn't have caught so many suspicions.
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Cassie_Hack
Cassie_Hack
Yesterday, 21:06 #
@Abnormality: it is still not clear who did this cleaning and who installed the new door, and why it was blown up at all.
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myauser
myauser
Yesterday, 22:09 #
@Cassie_Hack: The door was blown up by the raiders at the very beginning so that they would not be chased.
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ChrisRedfield
ChrisRedfield
17 Apr 09:36 #
How can cars and buildings be right next to the funnel? Shouldn't they have been vaporized/discarded/destroyed?
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myauser
myauser
17 Apr 10:38 #
@ChrisRedfield: must. But these are just conventions of the Fallout universe for the sake of entertainment, it has never been an example of a realistic post-apocalypse.
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arahant
arahant
21 Apr 11:11 #
@myauser: this is not the conventions of the universe, this is the indifference of decorators
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myauser
myauser
17 Apr 10:50 #
So many things... I notice interesting points on a piece of paper so that I can leave a meaningful comment later, but after this series I don't even know where to start.

Okay, I'm not going to ignore the elephant in the room. Shady Sands was clearly destroyed after the events of New Vegas, because it was mentioned there a couple of times, and it could not be said from the NKR that they had lost any major city (especially the capital). Plus, the Gazebo has already confirmed that NV is canon and no one is going to cancel it. On the other hand, for some reason, no one in the series remembers about the Burial Ground, which was already a fairly large city during the first games.

Maximus... Blunt. He fucked up his armor, his partner, and his head, just because he couldn't lie (and he seems to be able to do it). I would say something like: "Titus was devoured by Yao-gai, I took the armor for myself because it is a valuable technology and I need to fulfill the goal." I don't get tired of laughing when he gets out of the refrigerator as a child. Despite the fact that it was ridiculed in the same NV.

The scenery and landscapes continue to delight, but there are still places where faith in the post-apocalypse disappears. The same bridge looks too new. And some Devils are not devils, but just homeless trash. Maybe, of course, they simply ceased to exist as a tribe after NV.

Lucy and Maximus can only wish good luck. There are very few shelters on the wasteland where you are not in danger of death from various DISEASES.

P.S. It was funny to see "the beast's neighbor" in the cleaned-up Shelter 32. The number 665 is on the mailbox.
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6o4ka
6o4ka
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17 Apr 11:51 #
Why did he introduce himself as Titus? I would say it as it is
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misharoca
misharoca
18 Apr 06:18 #
I haven't seen so much inspiration in the comments to any TV series yet.
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Sunvok
Sunvok
19 Apr 03:02 #
@misharoca: because they shoot either verbatim according to the game (hello arcane) and there is stupidly nothing to find fault with - the players see the familiar, for beginners - who did not skip right away, everything is fine. Either the game is not very popular and stuffy comments are lost against the background of those who did not play)
Everything immediately coincided at once- and there are a lot of players, the series is long, literally several generations were touched, and they did not retell, but their own story. So it's not surprising)))
P.S. although the Witcher series would argue with you, there were also a lot of indignant people there))
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Citokos
Citokos
19 Apr 21:19 #
@Sunvok: ///although the Witcher series would have argued with you, there were also a lot of indignant people there))///

Heh, heh, heh. But what about "The Last of Us" with 1,328 comments under which series is known. ;-)
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Hidji
Hidji
20 Apr 04:47 #
@Citokos: most likely, a person has hardly watched other TV series (except for a couple of movies) on games and has not seen them in the comments below))).
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Sunvok
Sunvok
20 Apr 16:19 #
@Citokos: when I looked, there wasn't that much, and I didn't really go through the comments) moreover, it is clear why there are so many)))
Specifically about last of us, I can say this - they shot just as I put it " almost verbatim ", if you compare some moments and screensavers from the game, there's just one in one, even a video on the topic of comparing moments somehow found) Therefore, I would say this - there are not good-natured, as TS put it)))
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Sunvok
Sunvok
20 Apr 16:21 #
@Hidji: you guessed it with the comments) I very rarely climb here, usually to clarify something or if the original work is not familiar)
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namo
namo
20 Apr 23:06 #
@Sunvok: well, it seems like a continuation of the canon, not a retelling - these events were not in the games, so the igrodushnils can step aside - they can notice at most some inconsistencies, but no more - this is not a reason to stifle, if in general everything is OK
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phantasm
phantasm
18 Apr 23:56 #
Ох, как же этот Максимус выбешивает своей тупизной. Вот начерта Люси то надо было врать? Смысл? Обычно, когда какой-н. главгад бесит - признак того, что актёр чертовски хорош. Но у этого то и с игрой так себе. Полторы эмоции на 20 ситуаций.

Сцена на мосту чуднай. Отойдите на километр, подождите пока эти каннибалы пройдут, потом сами идите. В чём проблема не рисковать на ровном месте.

А в какое убежище они попали?
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Citokos
Citokos
19 Apr 21:26 #
@phantasm: ///The scene on the Chudnai Bridge. Step back a kilometer, wait for these cannibals to pass, then go yourself. What's the problem with not taking risks out of the blue.///

The arc of Lucy's character. She grew up in her greenhouse and does not act adequately for the inhabitants of the Wasteland. :-(

The magic didn't work, but Maximus got some kind of scarecrow.
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MichaelKuksa
MichaelKuksa
19 Apr 19:32 #
Maybe this shelter is not so simple 🤔
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ГариСиднев
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20 Apr 01:02 #
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nonaems
nonaems
21 Apr 22:47 #
Maximus is a fool. He should have rushed headlong into the brotherhood and begged for forgiveness, but instead he decided to fuck up absolutely everything.
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25 Apr 07:52 #
Still the kid well done)))
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PRO
25 Apr 08:34 #
What would have happened if Maximus had not lied but told the truth for the first time?
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LEANMUNN
LEANMUNN
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Yesterday, 02:23 #
Maximus, what kind of a slow-moving mattress are you, "When the bombs fell, I was little" are you 200 years old? I didn't understand something. Democracy.... in reality, your democracy has been fucked up more than once and will be tested more than once for various reasons. There is some kind of mysticism going on in the shelters. And where are the radscorpions?
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Hidji
Hidji
Yesterday, 04:50 #
@LEANMUNN: This refers to the bombing of Shady Sands 10-12 years before the events of the series.
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LEANMUNN
LEANMUNN
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Yesterday, 19:22 #
@Hidji: OK, thanks. Just a claim to the series again, I understood this landing site, shouldn't there be a radiation background there, God forbid?
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Hidji
Hidji
Yesterday, 22:10 #
@LEANMUNN: but there were times when Soviet and American soldiers went to the explosion sites during exercises and no one was surprised. And then there is surprise about the same thing in the vastness of the post-nuclear world, where everything sounds at all, only in different ways😁
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LEANMUNN
LEANMUNN
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Yesterday, 22:20 #
@Hidji: Yes, it's just funny, she goes to the water and her meter is cracking. And then they come to the epicenter of the explosion 10 years ago, where there should be a radiation contamination, a lot of radiation penetrated into various objects and buildings, but the counter is silent.
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myauser
myauser
Yesterday, 23:31 #
@LEANMUNN: so in one of the episodes it was generally shown that the counter must be turned on first :D
It's so logical)
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