This unbending optimism and Lucy's tenacious naivety both irritate and inspire me. On the one hand, she is still the same girl who grew up in greenhouse conditions, on the other, adapts quickly enough and can stand up for herself.
Of the entire game series, I actively played only the second part, and it was a very long time ago, so I can't call myself a good expert on the lore of this universe. I have already forgotten a lot, even more have been changed or added in later parts. But I remember the New California Republic, and it's sad to see that it collapsed here. And from the second part, I remember the Enclave - the former US government, which organized a network of shelters. It is quite possible that what is happening in shelters 31, 32 and 33 has something to do with them. In the game, however, we are winning this very Enclave, as far as I remember, but part of the organization could have been preserved.
First of all, what happened to Shady Sands and at what point did the bomb fall on the city? The events of the second part take place in 2241 and there were no skyscrapers there. Okay, let's put it down to the technical difficulties of the game from back in 1998. And at the same time, there were not only Shelters 13 and 15 near the city, but also a hidden Shelter 4, which somehow the Creator did not reach at the time. It's a little strange, but let's assume.
It looks like some kind of strange attempts to cancel the NKR and what was in the first parts or something. I can't say that I like the move with the destruction of the NKR capital, I hope they will tell you more about it - who, how and why.
Secondly, what is there for such a tricky Shelter 33 and who managed to clean up so well and quickly in Shelter 32? And then what is the idea of these three shelters connected to each other?
@gkalian: it's not a fact that skyscrapers are exactly Shady Sands, because the bomb didn't fall on them, but nearby, but the question is still open, yes
@Skyscore: Well, it's a little strange, because Shady Sands was a farming settlement originally and it's unrealistic to build skyscrapers in the post-apocalypse environment. Was there a big city nearby?
@gkalian: I do not remember that there was an unambiguous answer to this in the first parts. But it is more than realistic to build skyscrapers in 50 years (the same Chicago), but it requires, of course, a developed economy and a relatively strong state with a strong economy. Well, in short, I would just mark it with a question for now, I don't see much contradiction.
although I have just watched the screensaver on the credits - it is clear that the Shady Sands school is a small building in the middle of skyscrapers, it is unlikely that they are pre-war
@mamkerink: now I better understand the anger of the fans of deuce and New Vegas at metacritic, that's where, like, the spit is. So far, I don't see how dropping a bomb on Shady Sands cancels the NKR, but we'll see, of course. So far, everything is very intriguing.
offline - of course, I also really love New Vegas with all my heart, but all this eternal deification of Obsidians by everyone in a row is not even cool anymore. This prevents you from looking soberly at the advantages and disadvantages. In particular, no matter how many times I went through NV, I could not get rid of a feeling of dissatisfaction in terms of the ending and its significance, in terms of the integrity of the story. Unlike the troika, which, although there were a few short dialogues, had its own charm, and I always feel very sorry for how they dip her face in the dirt every time compared to NV. For me, NV lacked the very conciseness that was in the top three, and balance. By the way, the second part suffered from the same thing compared to the first.
Here the guys are trying to tell their story, I'm very interested in how it will be woven into the canon
@Skyscore: gt;So far I don't see how dropping a bomb on shady sands cancels the NKR To be honest, I didn't see it either. Maybe the very fact that a bomb was dropped on the capital of the NKR, and the NKR is a favorite faction of many, angers me.
@mamkerink: In Vegas, you can actually hit them with a nuclear bomb.
In general, even without this, they say that the republic is barely breathing, huge corruption, war with everyone you can: raiders, khans, brotherhood of steel, Legion, etc. So they couldn't stand it. Most likely the canon that their brotherhood was destroyed or the courier in three endings
@Сериальщик732: The bombing in New Vegas affects geographically only the Mojave Wasteland. Ulysses chose the targets of the strikes, and it seems that the Courier, if he decides to do so, is not invited to choose other targets. And the goals are not that the centers of the factions were, but like a supply line or the homeland of Ulysses. And if so, then McCarran Airport and Cottonwood Cove remain intact, that is, the Mojave base of the NKR remains intact. Then the Courier's actions do not affect Shady Sands at all, and New Vegas is not related to the series. While.
The moment when Lucy and Titus enter the hospital unlocked a memory - the tingling of heels when entering any building: What awaits you, mole rats, raiders, ghouls, radiation? Are you pumped enough?
I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that the brotherhood themselves dropped a bomb on the competition. Of course, this is more in the style of an Enclave, but who knows what Todd got into his head there
@AtomicTroll: but it seems to me that it's someone from shelters 31-33, a mom, a folder, or this fiery demoness. For the brotherhood, it's not according to the code somehow, dropping a bomb on a peaceful settlement of 30k people
The game fallout 4 has a Vault tech story, and information that different shelters are built for experiments (and sufficiently wild and inhumane) on the inhabitants. This is exactly what we see in shelters 31-32-33. It seems that in the 31st shelter there are experimenters, and in the 32nd and 33rd there are experimental subjects.
@utau: To be fair, I had the same thought, even though I wasn't playing. I will add that maybe these three shelters have no purpose at all to come to the surface, but simply constantly move from shelter to shelter, creating some problems and dangers, jointly overcoming them indefinitely for the common "future settlement of America."
@AlbinoDeer: These are not the explosions, he is just a descendant of those people who stayed on the surface or came out of shelters earlier. He had already survived one of the showdowns between the new forces.
@AlbinoDeer: Shady Sands is the capital of the NKR, which, according to the history of the series, was bombed a dozen years ago, and Max survived an explosion in the refrigerator (Indiana Jones vibes). Apparently, he joined the Brotherhood later, or they picked him up in one of their campaigns. But it would be better to watch the whole season, then there will be almost no questions left).
@ChrisRedfield: must. But these are just conventions of the Fallout universe for the sake of entertainment, it has never been an example of a realistic post-apocalypse.
So many things... I notice interesting points on a piece of paper so that I can leave a meaningful comment later, but after this series I don't even know where to start.
Okay, I'm not going to ignore the elephant in the room. Shady Sands was clearly destroyed after the events of New Vegas, because it was mentioned there a couple of times, and it could not be said from the NKR that they had lost any major city (especially the capital). Plus, the Gazebo has already confirmed that NV is canon and no one is going to cancel it. On the other hand, for some reason, no one in the series remembers about the Burial Ground, which was already a fairly large city during the first games.
Maximus... Blunt. He fucked up his armor, his partner, and his head, just because he couldn't lie (and he seems to be able to do it). I would say something like: "Titus was devoured by Yao-gai, I took the armor for myself because it is a valuable technology and I need to fulfill the goal." I don't get tired of laughing when he gets out of the refrigerator as a child. Despite the fact that it was ridiculed in the same NV.
The scenery and landscapes continue to delight, but there are still places where faith in the post-apocalypse disappears. The same bridge looks too new. And some Devils are not devils, but just homeless trash. Maybe, of course, they simply ceased to exist as a tribe after NV.
Lucy and Maximus can only wish good luck. There are very few shelters on the wasteland where you are not in danger of death from various DISEASES.
P.S. It was funny to see "the beast's neighbor" in the cleaned-up Shelter 32. The number 665 is on the mailbox.
@misharoca: because they shoot either verbatim according to the game (hello arcane) and there is stupidly nothing to find fault with - the players see the familiar, for beginners - who did not skip right away, everything is fine. Either the game is not very popular and stuffy comments are lost against the background of those who did not play) Everything immediately coincided at once- and there are a lot of players, the series is long, literally several generations were touched, and they did not retell, but their own story. So it's not surprising))) P.S. although the Witcher series would argue with you, there were also a lot of indignant people there))
@Citokos: most likely, a person has hardly watched other TV series (except for a couple of movies) on games and has not seen them in the comments below))).
@Citokos: when I looked, there wasn't that much, and I didn't really go through the comments) moreover, it is clear why there are so many))) Specifically about last of us, I can say this - they shot just as I put it " almost verbatim ", if you compare some moments and screensavers from the game, there's just one in one, even a video on the topic of comparing moments somehow found) Therefore, I would say this - there are not good-natured, as TS put it)))
@Sunvok: well, it seems like a continuation of the canon, not a retelling - these events were not in the games, so the igrodushnils can step aside - they can notice at most some inconsistencies, but no more - this is not a reason to stifle, if in general everything is OK
Ох, как же этот Максимус выбешивает своей тупизной. Вот начерта Люси то надо было врать? Смысл? Обычно, когда какой-н. главгад бесит - признак того, что актёр чертовски хорош. Но у этого то и с игрой так себе. Полторы эмоции на 20 ситуаций.
Сцена на мосту чуднай. Отойдите на километр, подождите пока эти каннибалы пройдут, потом сами идите. В чём проблема не рисковать на ровном месте.
@phantasm: ///The scene on the Chudnai Bridge. Step back a kilometer, wait for these cannibals to pass, then go yourself. What's the problem with not taking risks out of the blue.///
The arc of Lucy's character. She grew up in her greenhouse and does not act adequately for the inhabitants of the Wasteland. :-(
The magic didn't work, but Maximus got some kind of scarecrow.
Maximus is a fool. He should have rushed headlong into the brotherhood and begged for forgiveness, but instead he decided to fuck up absolutely everything.
Maximus, what kind of a slow-moving mattress are you, "When the bombs fell, I was little" are you 200 years old? I didn't understand something. Democracy.... in reality, your democracy has been fucked up more than once and will be tested more than once for various reasons. There is some kind of mysticism going on in the shelters. And where are the radscorpions?
@LEANMUNN: but there were times when Soviet and American soldiers went to the explosion sites during exercises and no one was surprised. And then there is surprise about the same thing in the vastness of the post-nuclear world, where everything sounds at all, only in different ways😁
@Hidji: Yes, it's just funny, she goes to the water and her meter is cracking. And then they come to the epicenter of the explosion 10 years ago, where there should be a radiation contamination, a lot of radiation penetrated into various objects and buildings, but the counter is silent.
And from the second part, I remember the Enclave - the former US government, which organized a network of shelters. It is quite possible that what is happening in shelters 31, 32 and 33 has something to do with them. In the game, however, we are winning this very Enclave, as far as I remember, but part of the organization could have been preserved.
It looks like some kind of strange attempts to cancel the NKR and what was in the first parts or something. I can't say that I like the move with the destruction of the NKR capital, I hope they will tell you more about it - who, how and why.
Secondly, what is there for such a tricky Shelter 33 and who managed to clean up so well and quickly in Shelter 32? And then what is the idea of these three shelters connected to each other?
offline - of course, I also really love New Vegas with all my heart, but all this eternal deification of Obsidians by everyone in a row is not even cool anymore. This prevents you from looking soberly at the advantages and disadvantages. In particular, no matter how many times I went through NV, I could not get rid of a feeling of dissatisfaction in terms of the ending and its significance, in terms of the integrity of the story. Unlike the troika, which, although there were a few short dialogues, had its own charm, and I always feel very sorry for how they dip her face in the dirt every time compared to NV. For me, NV lacked the very conciseness that was in the top three, and balance. By the way, the second part suffered from the same thing compared to the first.
Here the guys are trying to tell their story, I'm very interested in how it will be woven into the canon
gt;So far I don't see how dropping a bomb on shady sands cancels the NKR
To be honest, I didn't see it either. Maybe the very fact that a bomb was dropped on the capital of the NKR, and the NKR is a favorite faction of many, angers me.
In general, even without this, they say that the republic is barely breathing, huge corruption, war with everyone you can: raiders, khans, brotherhood of steel, Legion, etc. So they couldn't stand it. Most likely the canon that their brotherhood was destroyed or the courier in three endings
I will add that maybe these three shelters have no purpose at all to come to the surface, but simply constantly move from shelter to shelter, creating some problems and dangers, jointly overcoming them indefinitely for the common "future settlement of America."
Okay, I'm not going to ignore the elephant in the room. Shady Sands was clearly destroyed after the events of New Vegas, because it was mentioned there a couple of times, and it could not be said from the NKR that they had lost any major city (especially the capital). Plus, the Gazebo has already confirmed that NV is canon and no one is going to cancel it. On the other hand, for some reason, no one in the series remembers about the Burial Ground, which was already a fairly large city during the first games.
Maximus... Blunt. He fucked up his armor, his partner, and his head, just because he couldn't lie (and he seems to be able to do it). I would say something like: "Titus was devoured by Yao-gai, I took the armor for myself because it is a valuable technology and I need to fulfill the goal." I don't get tired of laughing when he gets out of the refrigerator as a child. Despite the fact that it was ridiculed in the same NV.
The scenery and landscapes continue to delight, but there are still places where faith in the post-apocalypse disappears. The same bridge looks too new. And some Devils are not devils, but just homeless trash. Maybe, of course, they simply ceased to exist as a tribe after NV.
Lucy and Maximus can only wish good luck. There are very few shelters on the wasteland where you are not in danger of death from various DISEASES.
P.S. It was funny to see "the beast's neighbor" in the cleaned-up Shelter 32. The number 665 is on the mailbox.
Everything immediately coincided at once- and there are a lot of players, the series is long, literally several generations were touched, and they did not retell, but their own story. So it's not surprising)))
P.S. although the Witcher series would argue with you, there were also a lot of indignant people there))
Heh, heh, heh. But what about "The Last of Us" with 1,328 comments under which series is known. ;-)
Specifically about last of us, I can say this - they shot just as I put it " almost verbatim ", if you compare some moments and screensavers from the game, there's just one in one, even a video on the topic of comparing moments somehow found) Therefore, I would say this - there are not good-natured, as TS put it)))
Сцена на мосту чуднай. Отойдите на километр, подождите пока эти каннибалы пройдут, потом сами идите. В чём проблема не рисковать на ровном месте.
А в какое убежище они попали?
The arc of Lucy's character. She grew up in her greenhouse and does not act adequately for the inhabitants of the Wasteland. :-(
The magic didn't work, but Maximus got some kind of scarecrow.
It's so logical)