s01e03 — The Making at the Heart of the World

Shadow and Bone — s01e03 — The Making at the Heart of the World

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Cynosure
Cynosure
23 Apr 2021, 13:11 #
The perfect series! The appearance of new characters (ah, Zhenya), an element of comedy with mines, a taster and a goat for Jesper. I was very touched by the ending, it combined two strengths of the series - the video sequence and the most gorgeous music.
pinki_pai
pinki_pai
23 Apr 2021, 21:50 #
@Cynosure: ZHENYA IS JUST A BEAUTY. AND PERIOD💔
flaxman
flaxman
03 May 2021, 02:45 #
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04 May 2021, 07:28 #
Explain to me the joke about the goat. I still haven't grasped its function. 🤨
American_Beauty
American_Beauty
05 May 2021, 13:00 #
Stroking and calming down, obviously.
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User of MyShows
17 May 2021, 21:58 #
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12 Jul 2021, 04:56 #
Well, it's not obvious to me, because it doesn't calm me down once. 😅
vk526056
vk526056
23 Apr 2021, 15:05 #
1) Jessie began to play a little better
2) ZHENYA BOZHECHKI!!! This is to some extent a very important character for me, I really hoped that she would cheer me up in the series. So it is, she is not only beautiful here, but also generally cute. Let's not lose it all together
3) The second army, which treats Alina well immediately after the first meeting , is strange
4) " What are you doing? She's a spellcaster!" - aaaaa?
5) Zoya became Zoya, but she didn't become Zoya (so now think about what I meant)
6) Alina did not pass the ability test, therefore she did not build a three-hundred-meter stone wall surrounded by a moat with alligators and anacondas, bursting with the flames of a fiery hell, between her "normality" and strength - & amp;gt; what is the drama?
7) Just hug the kid, everything will be fine
vk526056
vk526056
23 Apr 2021, 15:54 #
Changed: item 6 - phew, fixed, everything is normal-everything is normal, the riot is canceled
Snegnarek
Snegnarek
24 Apr 2021, 21:51 #
@vk526056: It seems to me that these are the girls from the Second Army, who are now Alina's "retinue", just sycophants. Well, let's see.
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Meloman_Nastena
Meloman_Nastena
05 Nov 2022, 03:50 #
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nitanael
nitanael
23 Apr 2021, 15:22 #
Nina's arch fits in very well: through her and the situation she gets into, we understand more about the problem of Grisha in this world. In words, of course, it says that Grisha will be followed, etc., but it is through Nina's arch that we really see how serious everything is. Respect to the screenwriters 👏🏻👍🏻
akiratodo
akiratodo
24 Apr 2021, 18:21 #
@Alina_Prim: Maybe Nina and Mathias' branch is needed here to show Grisha's problem. but! As for me, the fact that she has nothing to do with the second army and the Ravka here is a minus. After all, at the moment when Mathias quietly accepted Nina and Grisha, it was important that she defended her own, wanted to return to them and was all such a patriot. I'm very sad not to have this connection, because it's an important part of the character (
anna_anthony
anna_anthony
23 Apr 2021, 15:47 #
Hooray, Nina and Mathias! Crows are insanely charismatic, straight off the pages of books. I was worried that they would be given much less screen time compared to Alina's story. And they prescribed an interesting storyline, combining the book image of the characters and a new backstory. Barnes is love.
VVs7
VVs7
10 May 2021, 00:14 #
Who are crows?
Why can't I remember the names of the heroes? Russian language-makes your ears bleed.
I even confuse the Army numbers! The first or the second. Names of cities and countries as in Mongolia)
But this is a bit of a drag. Zvezdets how interesting. The plot is spinning!
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12 Jul 2021, 04:58 #
It's necessary to read books along the way. The series mixed two stories, one of them about Crows
LeraKler
LeraKler
23 Apr 2021, 16:12 #
It was the third episode, and I still can't remember a single name except Alina...
Yoli-Winchester
Yoli-Winchester
30 Apr 2021, 23:58 #
Vhahah, and I thought I was the only one like this
Poison_i
Poison_i
10 May 2021, 19:00 #
I specially read the books quickly after the first series)) Otherwise, it's a disaster.
lin_wilde
lin_wilde
23 Apr 2021, 16:26 #
I'm sorry, but Ben Bars is losing to HIM on all fronts in this series
Roxy_Bluff
Roxy_Bluff
24 Apr 2021, 20:16 #
@lin_wilde: I agree that Kaz is the most interesting character so far. Although I started watching because of Barnes, but they show him so little that you can't help but wonder what kind of general he is if there is so little of him ((
ragnarady
ragnarady
29 Apr 2021, 15:40 #
@Roxy_Bluff: > What kind of general is he
Busy :)
Roxy_Bluff
Roxy_Bluff
30 Apr 2021, 18:37 #
@ragnarady: XDD
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04 May 2021, 07:32 #
I do not share your enthusiasm. For me, this is the most incomprehensible character and the least interesting. But there is darkness in Kirigan, and that makes it even more beautiful.
Ves
Ves
18 Jul 2021, 10:46 #
@lin_wilde: don't mix it up
VentSauvage
VentSauvage
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 23:30 #
@lin_wilde I agree. I started watching because of Ben, but because he appears in the frame all the time with Alina, I have to rewind. But Kaz is a delight to the eyes😍
rin_rin
rin_rin
23 Apr 2021, 17:03 #
Jesper is exactly what I imagined him to be when reading The Six – an adventurous, funny man, an excellent shooter, a rake, always looking for adventures on his ass! Well, yes, what a cute guy he is!🤩🥴🔥

And this moment with the kid just killed me on the spot:
- We're all going to die!
- Jesper, grab the goat
"There's no way I'm throwing them a kid!"
- Take it! He's not a bait, it's for you to calm down!Hug the kid and shut up!
(Jesper is just like a state of mind in life!🤣🤣🤣🤣)

Nina and Mathias - oh, how good they are😱💔In the book, I just loved all the moments with them and their dating history.✨

I imagined Zhenya and Bagra differently, but the actresses are good, it's also nice to watch them!))
Roxy_Bluff
Roxy_Bluff
24 Apr 2021, 20:17 #
@Rin_Rin: the kid is incredibly cute))))
And how Jasper shot! The scene with the revolvers somehow reminded Guy Ritchie of the atmosphere
rin_rin
rin_rin
24 Apr 2021, 23:48 #
@Roxy_Bluff: yes, yes, Keith is just a master shot, he got used to the role of Jesper 100%%
Arizella
Arizella
29 Nov 2021, 21:33 #
@Roxy_Bluff: as for me, the most impressive scene in the entire series🔥🔥🔥
sunshine_lika
sunshine_lika
26 Apr 2021, 23:13 #
@Rin_Rin:Remind me which book Nina and Mathias are from.
I'm too familiar, but I can't remember.
rin_rin
rin_rin
27 Apr 2021, 00:42 #
@sunshine_lika: this particular couple together is from the "Six Ravens" and the "Corrupt Kingdom" ;))
KayEileenJay
KayEileenJay
23 Apr 2021, 17:34 #
Phahah, I had doubts about Zhenya, but as soon as she opened her mouth, I fell in love ;))
KayEileenJay
KayEileenJay
23 Apr 2021, 17:35 #
here's the Helnik I've been waiting for the most)) My bunnies!
nasyamoon
nasyamoon
23 Apr 2021, 17:43 #
God.... I like this series the most so far.
Zhenya, Nina, and Zoya are here... fighting like that, Zoya is just tin. the beautiful scene where Alina tried to fight with her, I was waiting for something like this.

I'm waiting for Nina/Mathias to interact, I've already received this dose of initial hatred between them. I hope that Nina will reveal herself even better next, she is my favorite character in The Six Ravens.

Jesper suddenly opened up to me as a character, in the book I loved him along with the others, but here I really like him. in general, the trio "kaz, inezh, Jesper" pleases the eye in every episode.

Jesper hugging a goat is the best thing I've seen today.
nasyamoon
nasyamoon
23 Apr 2021, 17:46 #
@nasyamoon: The scenes with Nina were so hard. and when she was kidnapped, and when they were already strapping her on the ship. It really hurts for her, such a tense situation...

It also kills me that the crows are literally going to kidnap the most guarded Grisha from the most guarded place in Ravka. I don't even know which is worse: this or a book robbery...
KayEileenJay
KayEileenJay
23 Apr 2021, 17:56 #
Oh, it would be better to wait and see Nicholas, and I can die in peace :) Where is the 2nd season
lenaz03
lenaz03
23 Apr 2021, 17:56 #
I don't know about the book, but in the series, Zoya really annoys me.
montesquieu
montesquieu
PRO
23 Apr 2021, 23:26 #
In the books, before the "King of Scars", it was similar)))))
KayEileenJay
KayEileenJay
23 Apr 2021, 18:32 #
I am glad that there is humor in the series. the scene with the taster)) "Were you punished for something?" groan "I was glad when the previous taster died")))))))))))))))0
KayEileenJay
KayEileenJay
23 Apr 2021, 18:33 #
and each kind of grisha sits at a separate table, in a triangle) I already love this series for the details
Callistou
Callistou
23 Apr 2021, 18:34 #
Jesper hugging a kid is what I needed, but I didn't know about it.
Just_Jesse
Just_Jesse
PRO
01 May 2021, 20:59 #
— We're all going to die!"
- Jesper, grab the goat.
— There's no way I'm throwing them a kid!"
- Just take it! He's not a bait — it's for you to calm down. Hug the kid and shut up!
KayEileenJay
KayEileenJay
23 Apr 2021, 18:37 #
The new best thing in the series is Shooting Jesper! just aaaaaaa
and the faces of the others))
Doctor_Zlo
Doctor_Zlo
23 Apr 2021, 19:54 #
The canyon crossing scene was cool, driving, humorous, awesome, and totally illogical and pointless. That is, the dude has arranged an intercity minibus with goats and coal and carries those who wish for a fee. Then why don't the fabricators set up the same trailers, put a soldier of the first army with a gun and continue to go on exciting trips. Then why do we need a sun charmer in principle?
IndieAme
IndieAme
24 Apr 2021, 20:02 #
@Doctor_Zlo: a similar question did not leave me the whole series... That is, Ravka (and others) know that there is such a person, but they don't do anything with him and his technology, while people are dying in the Scythians?
Well, it's elementary, his paths go all the way to the very end of the Canyon, what, no one saw them?
It would be better if the creators really sent the Scum around.
Roxy_Bluff
Roxy_Bluff
24 Apr 2021, 20:19 #
@IndieAme: I don't think the official sources know about him. And the paths have most likely already been there. Building new ones is no less dangerous than digging a tunnel, which, as we were told, did not work out, because the monsters heard the excavation.
Doctor_Zlo
Doctor_Zlo
24 Apr 2021, 21:03 #
Judging by the find him episode, he transported a bunch of refugees, I doubt that Aprat and his spy network, and the Darkling, might not have known about it.
There is no need to build new tracks, but to put several trailers along its tracks. The same Sturmhond with his ingenuity could have come up with a cool protected carriage.
vin
vin
24 Apr 2021, 22:01 #
@Doctor_Zlo: >>>minibus with goats and coal
And with icons on the dashboard!!!))
Doctor_Zlo
Doctor_Zlo
25 Apr 2021, 06:05 #
Very Russian, very Orthodox 😂
Rut0Rut
Rut0Rut
23 Apr 2021, 19:56 #
Throw stones. the visual part is super, just drooling. What they did to the plot is just huddle in a corner and cry. :/
Doctor_Zlo
Doctor_Zlo
23 Apr 2021, 20:00 #
Where can I sign up for support?
bad_anastasia
bad_anastasia
23 Apr 2021, 20:03 #
Nina and Mattias, one of the most beloved couples in this universe, have finally appeared. They have a good storyline here, revealing the true problem with the Grisha.

Jesper and the kid are just the best, hahahp
meteliq
meteliq
23 Apr 2021, 22:41 #
I agree!
JuliS_Nord
JuliS_Nord
23 Apr 2021, 20:28 #
* food with Lee Bardugo's cameo for 31 minutes*
anatrnd
anatrnd
PRO
24 Apr 2021, 12:52 #
@JuliS_Nord: I was very pleased that it wasn't just a cameo, but she also hugged Alina, so cute.
christinapirs
christinapirs
25 Apr 2021, 17:43 #
@anatrnd: I created you, and I'll hug you!)
Viki-Triki
Viki-Triki
PRO
28 Apr 2021, 15:38 #
@anatrnd: cool!!! It's probably nice to see how your brainchild is growing before your eyes and at the same time you have the opportunity not only to observe this process, but also to participate in it!!!)))
__Anolig__
__Anolig__
23 Apr 2021, 20:35 #
Honestly, when I saw the cast a year ago, I didn't really like the one who plays Jesper. BUT NOW I think he's the best, I can't imagine anyone better than him. Walking charisma.
And yet, I'm looking in English, and Ben Barnes even spoke a little Russian in the scene of Alina's performance))))
Of course, a lot of interesting scenes were cut, but I like it so far
Roxy_Bluff
Roxy_Bluff
24 Apr 2021, 20:21 #
@__Anolig__: yes, from the moment of "my zaritsa" and "my tsar" I just laughed))) But this is not the first time Ben has spoken Russian. He also starred in "More Ben" with Chadov.
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04 May 2021, 07:40 #
In general, I think that Ben should be watched exclusively in the original, because his voice is something incredible. When I first heard him sing, there was no turning back. 😅🥰
Me-wow
Me-wow
23 Apr 2021, 20:42 #
- Hug the goat, shut the hell up!
Jesper and the goat are incredibly cute. "So soft!" In general, they did a great job showing my favorite shooter at his worst and best. The shooting scene of the volcr was beautiful.

Also, both Zhenya and Nina are in this series, and both are lovely so far.

And I think all of Alina's love troubles will still have time to get to me, but so far Malu's letters, mixed with these cuts, look quite touching.
Time_Lord_113
Time_Lord_113
23 Apr 2021, 20:44 #
Darkling: Concentrate on me.
Me: - So I already am!

Zhenya is just a sweetheart, I was really looking forward to her appearance.
And Jesper is just one of my favorite characters! I especially liked his hugs with the kid. 😅
And his shooting is a separate art form.
The bagra is exactly what I imagined it to be. Very good acting.
This episode captured my heart. The best so far, but there are still five more to come.
ViktoryMartini
ViktoryMartini
23 Apr 2021, 22:33 #
I really liked the series - the visual, the development of events, the humor

The moment with Jasper and the kid is just the best, I was so worried that the kid was taken as bait🤍

Since I'm one of those who haven't read the book yet, I'm curious about how Alina's powers will develop and how she will interact with the rest of the characters, who will end up being a friend, who will be an enemy.
oknevermind
oknevermind
23 Apr 2021, 23:04 #
Zhenya and Nina are just wow!! I don't know why I like them so much, but I can feel the strength of spirit in them.
daryajj
daryajj
23 Apr 2021, 23:26 #
I really liked the "show" for the king)
The Darkling is perfectly matched, this is exactly the kind of character I saw when reading
montesquieu
montesquieu
PRO
23 Apr 2021, 23:31 #
Jasper and the kid are the best bromance😂😂😂 and finally Nina and Mathias!!!!! I love them so much! I love every episode that finally adapts my favorite books.
innaliv
innaliv
23 Apr 2021, 23:56 #
Alina is a Chechen woman with a floor lamp on her head 🤣🤣🤣
Sssssamurai
Sssssamurai
24 Apr 2021, 00:18 #
I don't really understand why the state, with all its resources, uses wooden ships to cross the canyon, but some guy managed to build a railroad there and drives a steam locomotive.
Roxy_Bluff
Roxy_Bluff
24 Apr 2021, 20:22 #
@KostyaShalom: She was probably already there before the darkness appeared.
KsunGirl
KsunGirl
24 Apr 2021, 00:20 #
So I need a kid to watch such driving scenes like on the train! That's the kind of Jasper I like! Nina is just gorgeous, druskele hasn't looked at her yet... But the six is generally a fire in the series!
Sonaiveyet
Sonaiveyet
24 Apr 2021, 00:44 #
I'm sorry, but what about the main thing - the great confrontation between the herring in all the dishes of the palace and Alina, who hates her 🥺😅
IrinaFilatova
IrinaFilatova
24 Apr 2021, 02:01 #
Yeah, I was also waiting for this when there were different dishes on the table, but in the series, apparently, they decided to remove this, which is a pity, because Alina had a very nice detail with her dislike of herring, especially when interacting with Nikolai, who adored her.😸
Rut0Rut
Rut0Rut
25 Apr 2021, 23:06 #
Alina: no more corporate snobbery. no groups of ethereals. and no herring.

Nikolai: Good speech. Today will always be remembered as the date of the great ban on herring.

Ah kolenka
peppershtein
peppershtein
24 Apr 2021, 06:27 #
Someone explain the separation by the color of the clothes. Why are some in red and the rest in blue?
Doctor_Zlo
Doctor_Zlo
24 Apr 2021, 07:04 #
One of the very many omissions of the series, clearly counting on readers.
Grisha are divided into ethereals, substantials and corporals. Those, in turn, are divided into several more subgroups.
Ethereals are an order of spellcasters, they include squalls, torrential and infernal, and they wear blue. By the way, Alina and Darkling are among them.
Corporals are healers, heartbeats and tailors they wear red.
The substantials are fabricators, they are also divided into prochnikov and wear purple and gray and alkems, they wear purple and red.
peppershtein
peppershtein
24 Apr 2021, 08:05 #
Thanks for the reply
Mortarboard
Mortarboard
24 Apr 2021, 22:07 #
Thank you!)
Doctor_Zlo
Doctor_Zlo
24 Apr 2021, 07:11 #
Zhenya Safina was the first tailor, everyone did not treat her very well, because of this, Zhenya did not wear the red color of her order, but chose white.
Which, again, is not shown, at least at the time of the third episode.
audrey_parker
audrey_parker
24 Apr 2021, 09:17 #
@Doctor_Zlo: Well, she didn't choose white at all. White is the color of servants, and since the Darkling gave it to the queen, she is a servant, and Zhenya herself wanted to wear red and be like all grisha.
Doctor_Zlo
Doctor_Zlo
24 Apr 2021, 10:57 #
I forgot a little bit here, but the point remains the same - not a word is said about this in the series.
mirror_effect
mirror_effect
24 Apr 2021, 11:17 #
You won't find anything better in this series. 😹
murzik23
murzik23
24 Apr 2021, 14:03 #
@mirror_effect: 💖💖💖
mirror_effect
mirror_effect
24 Apr 2021, 11:19 #
The first shot of Nina and Mathias together. I'm so glad they showed me the dating scene. Although I know roughly what will happen next, but this is a landmark moment.
tevladka
tevladka
24 Apr 2021, 13:10 #
Ahhhhh! Jasper, the kid and his shooting are my favorite scene so far! It was very cool! The actor fits perfectly into the character!

And I'm also glad that I finally saw Nina and Mathias. They seem to be visually good! Waiting for the disclosure line!

And Zoya, what a bitch... But because of the actress, it's still hard for me to perceive her as the main beauty among the Grisha, but the hourly sex scene with Alinka is cool.

And our Brother-in-law is just a pervert priest. That 's how I got to her 🙈

And Alina's attitude is "why are you eating, not destroying the canyon" - wouldn't you fucking go there yourself? 🤬🤬🤬
Алианна
Алианна
24 Apr 2021, 13:27 #
Poor kid.😆
youarebymyside
User of MyShows
24 Apr 2021, 13:53 #
"And can you summon the sun without the general clutching your wrist? His blood and bones amplify other Grisha." Gosh, he is amazing. Everything about him is amazing. I'm in love.
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"Jesper, grab the goat!"
"I'm NOT throwing out the goat!"
"Grab the damn goat! It's not bait. It's for you! I need you to calm down. Hug the goat. Shut the hell up."
(in a moment) "So soft."

The way I laughed. :D Probably my best line so far.
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"The world is hard and cruel. But we had each other, and that was enough. That was everything. [...[ Cardinal north is a direction on a map. True north? True north is home. It is where you feel safe. And loved. You have always been my true north. And if I'm to survive this, I need to be home again... with you."

I don't feel them as deeply, but a) this is beautiful b) this reminds me of Steve Rogers & Bucky Barnes. Yeah, that's definitely them. Home.

P.S.: Ben nailed speaking Russian in my opinion. It wasn't even as half bad as it could have been. My respect for practising how to pronounce it.
christinapirs
christinapirs
25 Apr 2021, 06:36 #
@youarebymyside: and at what point did Ben speak Russian?
youarebymyside
User of MyShows
25 Apr 2021, 11:34 #
@christinapirs: "Moya tsaritsa" & "moi tsar" :)
Scheusalwirt
Scheusalwirt
24 Apr 2021, 15:21 #
I haven't read any books, so maybe I'm missing something, but it's very difficult to empathize with Alina. Her behavior reminds me of gg from "The Devil Wears Prada" at the beginning of the film - she got a job that everyone wanted and would be ready to do, but she constantly complains that something is being demanded of her. So far, nothing terrible has happened to her, but she is constantly offended or depressed.
Yes, being chosen is scary and a big responsibility, but I would empathize with her more if she really tried to train and study, and it would be obvious how it was gradually exhausting her. And here she seems to be tired in advance and wants her paradise in a hut.
To be honest, in general, the main characters are a little tired of being unhappy with the presence of superpowers. As if none of the fans of fantasy, science fiction and comics would like to have magical powers. And as if there's anything wrong with enjoying your abilities at least from time to time - if a person, for example, is talented in music and has become a famous performer, should he also constantly suffer that he has achieved success thanks to talent, or be offended when his mentors demand to train more often?..
Rut0Rut
Rut0Rut
25 Apr 2021, 23:17 #
Well, the series may not really show much. then I'll try to clarify a little bit here. although Alina has always infuriated me. :D in general, Alina and Mal have been used to being together since childhood, they hoped that they were not Grisha. There's another thing: Grisha are like experimental rats. they participate in wars, they are experimented on, burned alive at the stake, given up on people, sold. many people hid their strength on purpose, for example, they gave their children to neighbors if they came to the family to conduct tests on grisha, etc. and yes, the books show that Alina didn't do a damn thing at all. Everything was demanded of her, but she couldn't even light a light. She was bullied. According to the canon, Zoya threw her against the wall with her strength and broke her ribs, although this is prohibited by the rules; bagra considered Alina to be worthless, as did coach Botkin. Alina spent her nights crying into her pillow. everything is foreign, everything is not native, there is no small at hand, and he was the only close person who also hammered a bolt on her (she thought so). It's a huge responsibility, and Alina doesn't even own her power. It's very confusing, I'm sorry))
Scheusalwirt
Scheusalwirt
26 Apr 2021, 22:15 #
@Rut0Rut: thank you! this, of course, explains the longing and complaints. In the series, there was a complete feeling that the Grisha lived like an elite, and there didn't seem to be any talk about any experiments there.
NatashaNeta
NatashaNeta
08 May 2021, 01:01 #
@Scheusalwirt: but in the same episode, Nina is shown being bullied because she is Grisha. I haven't read the book, but it seems that this scene showed that Grisha is not going so smoothly.
Scheusalwirt
Scheusalwirt
10 May 2021, 21:51 #
@NatashaNeta: I didn't say that everything was perfect with them, but Alina was already experiencing difficulties due to the fact that she was from a different background, even in the army, next to her friends. What is happening to her among the Grisha does not look like a worsening of the situation: there are clearly people who support her, and there are those who are against her.
dashamedovaya
dashamedovaya
24 Apr 2021, 15:23 #
The series has definitely rocked, episode 3 is the best so
far, and yes, the deer at the beginning of the episode is very beautifully shown.
alensss
alensss
24 Apr 2021, 21:10 #
Hello everyone. Alyona is calling me and I need help. I'm already watching the third episode, but I realize that I don't understand anything because I haven't read the books. All these names scare me.
What about Ravka in the west? Does Peter rule there too? How long has this Rift been going on? Why can't you drive around it? Is Telegram a city or another country? I'm even afraid to disassemble the second line. As I understand it, this is the preface to some big story about a gang... well, let's say this is the most understandable...
How many armies are there? Only two? The first are ordinary dudes, and the second is Grisha? What the hell kind of name is that??? Grisha??? Well okay... Can anyone tell us more about them? Are they just gifted people? To protect the country ? And did one of them create the Rift too?
vin
vin
24 Apr 2021, 22:06 #
@alensss: тут есть много ответов:
https://the-grishaverse-rus.fandom.com/ru/wiki/The_Grishaverse_вики
https://aminoapps.com/c/libardugo/info/
juliakey
juliakey
24 Apr 2021, 22:27 #
Madame Trick, is that you?))

A great actor was chosen for the role of a confessor. You can see with the naked eye what a nasty guy he is.
yulialik
yulialik
24 Apr 2021, 22:51 #
I was so impressed with the relationship between Mal and Allina in the series, unlike in the book, I like Mal here. I shouldn't have been afraid for the Six, it's more or less understandable and very interesting. And they're so charismatic.
vk728323
vk728323
24 Apr 2021, 23:30 #
She took away all the scars and bruises except for the one on her arm, she asked her to leave it

And the ones on your forehead you couldn't remove?!
Or as I understood it, the real scars of the actress!?
And that they could not be made up?!
scarcelyinside
scarcelyinside
25 Apr 2021, 00:42 #
Jesper and the goat are so sunny
Lihiominaa
Lihiominaa
PRO
25 Apr 2021, 01:15 #
Unscheduled viewing, but delayed, I'm having fun. I don't like the idea of a love triangle here. Both men are not bad, of course, that's why it's even sadder. Although I probably fizz her more with Barnes.
And so in the series, many characters deliver.

But Zhenya is certainly awesome, I can't get enough of it.

And yes, the Jasper scene is creepy. The heroes continue to amaze
Necromantica
Necromantica
25 Apr 2021, 04:39 #
Hug the goat and shut up)))))
christinapirs
christinapirs
25 Apr 2021, 06:33 #
- The kid is for you, Jesper, hug him and calm down!
Jesper: Right now I'll calm them all down here.
attlst
attlst
25 Apr 2021, 08:29 #
The last scene is tearful. After all, I really like Mal in the series.
DmitriyPetrov
DmitriyPetrov
25 Apr 2021, 08:36 #
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tana_potter
tana_potter
25 Apr 2021, 13:32 #
The Canyon crossing scene in the trolley is super! Jesper is the star of this scene, first hugging a baby goat, and then shooting a wolf under his arm, super)))
I really like Zhenya, and Nina, my God, she's beautiful! How she fought to the last with the Druskals!
Aprat is just as nasty as in the books. In general, I never cease to admire the excellent cast.
RedEvilFox13
RedEvilFox13
25 Apr 2021, 14:28 #
God, Jesper, "Hug the kid and shut up!"
Jesper, with a kid under his arm and a revolver in his other hand, is a separate kind of beauty.
mmurza
mmurza
25 Apr 2021, 15:27 #
And oh , how much drama

I don't like these changes in the essence of Alina
's character, and I'm not the only one who imagined her letters to be less painful?

from the important:
Bagra , Zhenya, Nina just 💘
mikrobelka
mikrobelka
25 Apr 2021, 16:52 #
No, well, did you hear the Darkling say "my queen"? And what a stupid hat with a veil Alina was wearing, it's just awful.

The King and Queen are just as disgusting as in the book, imho. Alina's skin looks very strange when she causes light.

What's the story with the train and the rails? How is it possible to build rails in the middle of a Shady Canyon? Are you kidding? The Ravkians would have thought of that themselves.

christinapirs
christinapirs
25 Apr 2021, 17:45 #
Ben *in Russian*: My King
Russian dubbing: My lord!
ORU)
marinatennant
marinatennant
PRO
25 Apr 2021, 19:14 #
So, I urgently went to review this moment in the original.
I knew it was better to watch with subtitles rather than dubbing 🗿🗿
christinapirs
christinapirs
25 Apr 2021, 19:21 #
@marinatennant: I've suffered too, but I really like the voices in the Russian dubbing (although the voices of Ben and Amita are incomparable in the original) it's not very clear in the orig if you look at it, so I look in Russian, and I review some points again already in the orig)
Well, all sorts of concepts from books that I only know in Russian from the "Six Ravens" rather than in English, and there are plenty of them here.
missfake
missfake
26 Apr 2021, 00:29 #
What's up?😱
marinatennant
marinatennant
PRO
25 Apr 2021, 19:12 #
Freddy as Kaz is sooooo charismatic. I know there are those who are unhappy with the cast, but he's perfect for me.

Jesper and the kid are a different story just ahahahah
It's not for nothing that they showed us how Jesper shot the last volcra, will they really tell us who he really is in the series 🤔

I'm a little upset that they didn't show how Alina chose the color of the caftan, how the Darkling wanted her to wear black, but she refused, referring to the fact that she is the same ethereal as the rest of the casters and will wear blue. It would be a strong scene, I think.

I also don't like this innovation a bit, that Alina is half shukhanka, and everyone ridicules her for that too. Although, if you think about it, it's pretty logical that she could be a half-breed, since she was born near the border with Shuhang 🤔
marinatennant
marinatennant
PRO
25 Apr 2021, 19:13 #
And, of course, how could I forget about Mathias and Nina?
They haven't been given much screen time yet, but I'm really looking forward to these buns. ☺️
Suuushi
Suuushi
26 Apr 2021, 00:07 #
I haven't read the six, but damn, these characters are perfect.
Nika and Big Handsome are clearly going to claim the title of the most chemical couple (after Jasper and the kid)
The transition was amazing! And anyway, it's just such an aesthetic and fan pleasure to watch this series.
id154212987
id154212987
26 Apr 2021, 10:22 #
Take the kid and calm down ahahahahahahahahahah
justlikefiiire
justlikefiiire
26 Apr 2021, 14:17 #
Zhenechka is beautiful!! I'm glad that Zoya started hitting on Alina at least a little, although it's still not the same.
I'm tired of these letters to Malu, to be honest..
and I wonder why a darkling can't be called a darkling? Where did 'General Kirigan' come from?
Frustapple
Frustapple
26 Apr 2021, 18:05 #
Nina was finally shown.
Alnk24
Alnk24
26 Apr 2021, 21:44 #
Jasper and the kid are the cutest things I've seen today.😍☺️
sunshine_lika
sunshine_lika
26 Apr 2021, 23:27 #
Damn, I just realized a huge thing! , By reading the comments.
Those who haven't read the series of books can't understand a lot of things. But for us "enlightened" people, everything is so simple. I'm soooo glad when this or that frame/moment/scene starts to be shown, and it's just an EXPLOSION OF HAPPINESS that the series was filmed at all.
I imagined Zhenya a little different, but Bagra was a little older, not such a middle-aged woman. Zoya is Zoya, but not like Zoya (bookish). It's hard to explain.
Mal is the only character I've seen completely different, perhaps because of Lee Bardugo's omission of the description of Mal's appearance. Why isn't Clegane a Darkling????

But I haven't finished reading the Six's line, so they can't recognize some of the characters. I know the Trinity, but I don't remember what kind of robbery they planned in the original, but then they connected the timeline altogether, and bam, the Hunt for Alina, nothing.

I like everything! It's just the fact that it's something native, here's the paper version, and here's a treat for the eyes and ears. 💖💖💖💖💖💖
vatslav
vatslav
27 Apr 2021, 00:14 #
We got on the train, threw in some carbidic coal, and gave the gunner a kid in his hands so that he wouldn't worry. they crossed themselves and drove over the iron to the other side of the canyon, here it is a gold mine for smugglers.
Мяурицио_К
Мяурицио_К
27 Apr 2021, 00:40 #
It's so strange to look at Aprat. In the book, he has very explicit Rasputin vibes, but in the TV series he is completely different.
miheeva
miheeva
PRO
27 Apr 2021, 19:11 #
I'd like to have a little chat about Nina's caste. In general, I liked the actress, but we could still take a plus-size girl. This is how Nina was described in the book: "she was so round", "she has thick thighs, thick waist and full breasts". Kaz described her and Matthias as "two biggest crew members," and in one of her childhood memoirs, the boy told her that she was "already fat enough." The author does not just come up with the appearance of the characters, all the details are important. Nina is such a confident, flirtatious, sexy girl, I think this is an important part of her image. It turns out that the showrunners curtsied towards racism and for this they added Alina, making her a Shoo, but at the same time they are not ready to find a plus-size actress.

I really liked everything else, Jasper is just love. I liked him in books, but here he just came to life. They gave him some charm and humor, he turned out to be just great. For the third series, the line with six (or so far three) ravens is the best and most dynamic, I would watch the series only about them)

The Darkling is depressing, but it's also depressing in books. Barnes is handsome, but it's not enough to take out the series. I hope they'll add dynamics to it.
icelbi
icelbi
16 Nov 2021, 14:25 #
@miheeva: Isn't Nina plus-sized in the series? In the scene where they are in the whalers' hut, its size is quite noticeable.
CaribaFiesta
CaribaFiesta
PRO
27 Apr 2021, 20:26 #
daryajj
daryajj
28 Apr 2021, 00:55 #
LissLiss
LissLiss
29 Apr 2021, 02:34 #
This kiss, how I've been waiting for it ♥️
Slava_Nahorny
Slava_Nahorny
29 Apr 2021, 12:35 #
To wash in a minute, an ability that is needed in the morning
IzaGorg
IzaGorg
29 Apr 2021, 21:21 #
That is, in fact, they only need one sharpshooter to cross the Canyon. How simple it turned out to be…
Gordey
Gordey
29 Apr 2021, 23:21 #
It was a hell of a ride!!
Moli_boga
Moli_boga
30 Apr 2021, 17:11 #
After raising the bar of "Game of Thrones," this film adaptation seems like a children's matinee, the conflict between countries resembles a drunken brawl between villages, a so-so action movie, magicians who look defenseless against guns and monsters.
The main characters are brought together by racism and xenophobia towards them in childhood.
The series will be great for those who just want to relax and not think about it after a hard week at work.
flaxman
flaxman
03 May 2021, 02:40 #
Well, these books were written by Auntie, and she obviously did not write them for an adult audience. This is not George Martin.)
Kholopovarita
Kholopovarita
01 May 2021, 19:13 #
1) The pressure on Alina from all sides sucks.
2) Raspberry
BlinDneSS
BlinDneSS
PRO
02 May 2021, 19:42 #
As an interim result, thanks to the arc of the six ravens, which arouses interest in the series; Alina's arc is an ordinary and boring story that is not the same as anywhere in the United Kingdom, it disappoints; there remains some hope for the Nina-Mathias line
flaxman
flaxman
03 May 2021, 02:36 #
This is the best episode of the series so far. At least it became a little clearer what was happening. The line with Alina's education is too slow. Let's see what happens next.
tanyaabozhko
tanyaabozhko
04 May 2021, 17:44 #
Very beautifully shot! Actors! The atmosphere! A series you want to enjoy
fb942393
fb942393
05 May 2021, 22:19 #
With each episode, the series becomes more sluggish. It may work as a fantasy for 13-year-old girls, but it doesn't work as something that can interest an adult audience.
veer
veer
07 May 2021, 05:06 #
Nina and Mathias! I liked the choice of actors, and that we will be shown their story.
After the scene with the revolver, I recognized the typical book Jasper)
I didn't like Kaz right away, but he's exactly like in the book, sullen, tense, neurotic and under constant control and a thinking head!
That's the only one who should be the typical handsome man in this story, it's the Darkling and he's perfect, the demonstration of his power is endless delight! I also want to see Nina in full force.
veer
veer
07 May 2021, 05:11 #
I would also like to add that those who have read the books write tons of fat spoilers and don't even understand it!
I've read it too, I also want to discuss who and what in advance, but let's respect those who haven't read it, spoilers are bad form on Maishow.
Сплюшка
Сплюшка
12 Jul 2021, 05:02 #
A low bow to you from the non-readers. It's one thing when a person watched an episode and didn't understand some point, and they explained it to him. And it was quite another thing when they told him everything to the end of the book.
Arizella
Arizella
29 Nov 2021, 21:42 #
@veer: it is a pity that there is no mark on the comments about the fact that there is a spoiler in the comment and it is not hidden as they do on some sites.
I've only read Six books, but the plans after the series were to read Shadow and Bone, and now I've picked up spoilers and I'm wondering if I should?)
Viki-Triki
Viki-Triki
PRO
30 Nov 2021, 06:20 #
@Arizella: be sure to read it))) I also already sat down to read both Ravens and TICK when I picked up a bunch of spoilers, but this made me much more interested. I wanted to understand what actions would lead to such consequences) Moreover, Nikolka Lantsov appears in "Storm and Tempest")))
Allons_y
Allons_y
10 May 2021, 09:40 #
Yeah, so the ship with the military and the Grisha merged in the canyon after the second mark, but some guy in almost one helmet easily carries everyone back and forth?
Here's everything you need to know about local sorcerers and army training. Funny.
Yoruichi
Yoruichi
13 May 2021, 23:23 #
And the kid is very cute 🐮
Arrr_14
Arrr_14
15 May 2021, 15:03 #
Forgive me in advance for this comment by those who are completely delighted with the series, but I have a few words about its one bad side.
Why doesn't anyone talk about how poorly designed Alina's character is? She is very nervous, everything is exaggerated, her mouth is always open, she goes to the king, staring at the ceiling like a stupid hillbilly. Even with all the surprise she's experienced at the scale of the palace, her character can't behave like that. Trying to show that she's so scared and surprised, they're just doing stupid things, and they're not the same thing.
It was shot perfectly, as they decided to intertwine the plots of the dilogy and the trilogy of the book series - it was interestingly conceived, although there are also some slightly ill-conceived moments here, but one of the central figures of the series spoils the impression very much.
I love books, I was really looking forward to the series, like most of them; I accepted the chosen cast, but this moment is very, very annoying.
sssaarah
sssaarah
PRO
06 Jun 2021, 23:40 #
The character Zhenya is very impressive. Nina's not bad either, but she's not very clear yet. In general, the whole storyline of the Ravens is much more interesting than Alina's. I felt that they would appeal to me much more. It also turns out that all they needed to cross the canyon was Jasper, his weapons, and his talent. In general, it was a stressful trip, I was worried about them. The storyline with Alina is a bit far-fetched, because here she is the girl who can overcome it all, but she didn't ask for such strength and blah blah, and you have to wait until she accepts and finally takes everything under control.
GrenKain
GrenKain
07 Jun 2021, 03:38 #
If in the last series Ravka was associated for me with east and west Jerusalem, then in this one it is more likely with Berlin after World War II.
Lolaa_
Lolaa_
13 Jun 2021, 04:00 #
The Darkling
Kaz🛐🛐
Inezh
Zhenyaaya
BlueberryNights
BlueberryNights
26 Jun 2021, 17:13 #
That's the case when the main character doesn't catch on at all. Also, these sufferings in love letters - phe.
Either the series is like this, but it's better in the books, or they'll just show more later.

But Zhenya Safina is beautiful. Just like the Darkling.
For the sake of these characters, I want to look further.

The trip through the canyon was also good.
TheArty
TheArty
11 Sep 2021, 16:48 #
@BlueberryNights: Darkling is beautiful!
Ana_stasia_
Ana_stasia_
10 Jul 2021, 18:16 #
I love Darkline with all my passion, I think nothing can beat the chemistry between them.🔥
But here, in the series, Alina and Mala are a couple, so lively, clean and bright.
And her letters, confessing her feelings, are something😍
GentleManiac
GentleManiac
15 Jul 2021, 17:50 #
Oh, how many sofa critics have divorced, dear mother! The whole Shady Canyon can be laid with them, and there's not enough room for everyone. Moreover, all those who shouted under the first episode about Alina's vulnerability are now snorting that she dared to show fear and concern. Where's the logic, sobsna? Or is it now possible to fuck the main female character? Yes, Alina was crying. But these are, for a moment, normal, adequate human experiences! But you just read the comments and rejoice, what kind of brave, fearless, strong, capable, unshakeable personalities we have watching TV series! My admiration, gentlemen!
Kreado
Kreado
PRO
06 Aug 2021, 00:44 #
I fell in love with the series. It's beautiful, although there are moments that leave more questions. I like every character, but I realize that I'm already getting confused about what's going on. You'll have to pause, order books, and only then continue watching the series.
Nog
Nog
12 Aug 2021, 08:14 #
Translated, it means Aprat. The name is like a fantasy name. And in the original he's The Apparat, it was funny.
eviltea
eviltea
23 Aug 2021, 17:21 #
I didn't say one thing in this letter, Mal. With these incoherent words, I tried to write that I was afraid. I'm scared, Mal.

As a child, we read about a Saint who would create a miracle of the world and save the whole country. But we knew that these were fairy tales. We knew that no one would come and solve all the problems; that miracles do not happen. But we believed in each other. The world is harsh and cruel, but we were together and that was enough. It was our world.

If there were Saints, they left us a long time ago, and now everyone is looking at me with hope. It's like I'm the miracle this world has been waiting for. Or they know I'm a liar. Impostor. I'm terribly afraid of both failure and success. If I really have this power, then who am I? One of those whom I ridiculed and rejected; a stranger to myself and to you. You said that the scariest thing for you was when you got lost. But you can get lost even knowing where you are.

You were talking about the Far North and the True North. The Far North is a place on the map, and the True, True North is a Home where you feel safe and loved. You have always been my True North. And if I survive after all, I want to go home. To you.
nalia159
nalia159
29 Sep 2021, 09:52 #
I read shadow and bone, but it's only about Alina, do you also need to read the six ravens to understand the series?
scarcelyinside
scarcelyinside
29 Sep 2021, 15:04 #
@nalia159: The line in the TV series with crows is a prequel to the "six ravens".
nalia159
nalia159
25 Oct 2021, 09:14 #
It's strange that Nina doesn't treat the Second Army well. In the books, she is a patriot and was eager to serve herself. But in any case, it's good that the ravens were introduced into history, only by reading the ravens did I understand the problems of the Grisha and what the Darkling was struggling with. Freedom and independence. Otherwise, Alina only whines about her terrible lot. And he doesn't even think that Grisha has been persecuted, killed and sold into slavery throughout the history of the world. And it's everywhere except Ravka, and that's thanks only to the Darkling.
I'm for the Darkling. And the crows, of course, are all great.
nalia159
nalia159
25 Oct 2021, 09:36 #
I'm glad Nina is a canon. Hair, figure. Her forms were never mentioned in the books, especially on behalf of Mathias😁
Arizella
Arizella
29 Nov 2021, 21:45 #
@nalia159: and I imagined her a little more vividly, even at first I was a little disappointed with her appearance, but then I realized from the following shots that Nina was good too.
nalia159
nalia159
25 Oct 2021, 09:43 #
Tell me which translation to watch. In sdi media, they translate kefta, not kaftan (annoying). Lost movie is a light caster. Does anyone translate it properly? By the books?
Сплюшка
Сплюшка
07 Nov 2021, 04:21 #
How it should be is the original)
Тахири
Тахири
10 Nov 2021, 15:18 #
I really like Alina. Like a gray mouse, but with a temperament. I don't know what's in the books, but I feel sorry for her here. The girl wants to have friends and a quiet life, not to save assholes who won't even let her eat. What does it even mean, "how can you sit here and eat?" Lol, man, no matter how holy she is, how can that be? Grisha is terribly annoying, except for the main characters.
veer
veer
15 Jan 2022, 02:26 #
@Тахири: She was treated even worse in the book.
wassabii
wassabii
14 Jan 2022, 17:10 #
Explain for all this entourage of the times of the Russian Empire, please? )) Russian is still spoken in places)

And if Slavic names are used, then why don't they bend according to the rules? It pisses me off terribly.
Arizella
Arizella
14 Jan 2022, 21:16 #
@wassabii: This series is an adaptation of the series of books "Shadow and Bone" and "Six Ravens" by Lee Bardugo, she took the entourage of the Russian Empire and some Slavic names as the foundation of this world.
wassabii
wassabii
15 Jan 2022, 01:21 #
@Arizella: спасибо)
justlikefiiire
justlikefiiire
01 Feb 2022, 21:26 #
I really don't like the way they change the history of crows in order to introduce them earlier. Nina was not a radical and was accidentally captured. ) : Jesper fire.
vort
vort
09 May 2022, 23:25 #
I have a dissonance, I haven't read the book...
Alina grew up in an unfavorable environment, an orphanage, a half-breed, but she protected Mala, they grew up, he became a normal guy, and once she got into a conditionally unfavorable environment, she lets out snot and behaves like a girl who grew up in a greenhouse, and it's "I want to go home, to the army.".. it knocks me out somehow...
bichitoo
bichitoo
10 May 2023, 03:25 #
@vort: Don't worry, she also whines in books. The only thing in the book is that she's not a half-breed.
msSomnium
msSomnium
19 Jun 2022, 20:41 #
I would have sent this guy in red to dinner. "I must, I must." She doesn't owe anyone a damn thing. They're the ones who've decided something for her and are demanding it.
Although the main character doesn't like me, but the environment that really puts pressure on her is infuriating.
Meloman_Nastena
Meloman_Nastena
05 Nov 2022, 04:03 #
Zhenya is beautiful, hooray for a new character, which is nice to watch besides the crows.

The whole story about the girl who was stolen - what's the point of this plot anyway? Why is the whole scenario like a patchwork quilt sewn with white threads
VentSauvage
VentSauvage
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 23:26 #
Well, damn, the book is being filmed, in the future we will find out why this story is about a girl, not to reveal everything in one episode.
SonyaChase
SonyaChase
28 Nov 2022, 21:08 #
I can't get rid of the book canon. So many details are missing:(
bichitoo
bichitoo
10 May 2023, 03:29 #
I don't understand how it was possible to make the Raven line as interesting as Alina's boring line? The moments with Alina are interesting only when they feature Darkling and Zhenya, however, here the series and the book converge.
VentSauvage
VentSauvage
PRO
10 Dec 2023, 23:25 #
And Jasper is cool and what a cute goat, I was worried about her.😁 Do I understand correctly that Crows are Kaz, Jasper, and so on?! Then why the Six? I counted three, well, four, if you're with this guide.…
phenomenyaa
phenomenyaa
27 Jan 2024, 03:29 #
He's so soft, I wouldn't have thought that a baby goat would act as an antistress guide. It would be interesting to know the situation after which he is like, "Bitch... what can I come up with? ASSHOLE FUCK YES!!!!!!!"
g1217882
g1217882
04 Apr 2024, 21:49 #
It's hard for Alina, everyone expects the impossible from her. She's not ready and it's weighing her down even more.
salvus_angel
salvus_angel
05 Apr 16:23 #
Black Nadia 🥲
id165383750
id165383750
12 May 20:56 #
Even though I don't understand anything at all , it doesn't come to me :(
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