@scarcelyinside: thanks for the clarification) didn't know)
(Turned on the nerd) But it's still strange, I looked at a couple of pages of other series. The Boys: Urban and Quaid are ahead of Starr, Moriarty and Alonso, and social ones with the same number of episodes; Meisel: Midge (B), Susie (B), Joel (Z) go alphabetically, followed by Mom (H) and dad (S) Midge, who according to this logic should be earlier Joel. It is logical, of course, that the "main characters" are ahead, but then all siblings should clearly be higher than Frank and Greg in the Heirs.
@RabbitInTheCity: it may be that the caste heirs have the imdb as they were all alphabetically rewritten in the credits of the first episode of the first season, well, or just as stated in the first season, and they simply add everyone else on the same principle below.
@scarcelyinside: yep, you were absolutely right, the actors on imdb are positioned exactly the same as in the credits, adjusted for the number of episodes in which the actor was involved.
@RabbitInTheCity: As far as I know, the alphabetical arrangement of actors is a thing that the unions fought for, so that there was no leverage and so as not to place the actors "in order of importance." The Boys are a Netflix series, and the heirs are from HBO, so most likely they have different unions and, as a result, different rules
I do not know how, but Kieran Culkin is OBLIGED to leave this year with an Emmy for the leading male role. Despite the fact that the whole cast is incredibly talented, this is absolutely, from A to Z, his season. It is so multifaceted to play a Novel that the attitude towards him changes every second: you love him, you hate him, you regret him, you understand, you hate him again, you regret him, you don't understand him, you love him... I was waiting for him to break down at the funeral, and this scene where he cries in the arms of loved ones is just to the bone. And the ending, which reminds us that he knows how to cope with his emotions exclusively through violence to himself? He wouldn't mind asking for support, but only Kendall is confidently turning into a dad, Shiv has his problems up to his neck, and he has long pushed Jerry away. I'm really worried about him, actually.
What I love most about Menken is that he is not a parody of Trump. He coolly showed all the children here that he is not an old man who was in Logan's pocket, and they will not be able to twist so easily, because none of them is Logan) even Kendall, who cosplays Logan to such an extent that he even hired his security guard. Only I didn 't hit on Kerry
Roman's fall was expected, he was so confident lately, but at the most important moment emotions took over - and although this is a normal reaction, the breakdown cost him many positions (CEO, Menken, etc.). Kendall, on the contrary, gave a strong speech and impressed many again, thinks about the deal, gathers a team ("woof woof"). Evan's speech was also liked, we learned a little about Logan, another cool moment was when they showed Evan's look after Kendall's speech - I saw Logan's features in KLR.
Shiv thinks that the Swede chose her, and the fascist president will support her candidacy, so naive, I wouldn't be surprised if under the US CEO he even thinks about Tom, who at least works with experience.
I liked the moment with Logan's women - Caroline has a couple of seconds of screen time to remind her what a bitch she is (her reaction to "made me and my 3 siblings" is also gorgeous), Marsha in this series also liked the reaction to Carrie, the Shiv scene is respect. Well, I will note Jerry's reaction to the breakdown of the Novel, it's a pity that their union broke up.
I can't believe that the finale is in a week - I want to know how it will end, but I also don't want to say goodbye to such a gorgeous series.
This is typical of American cinema. Maybe the actors are superstitious and want to lie down in a coffin unnecessarily. Or maybe it's just accepted in real life that the lid is always closed. Offhand, I only remember the scene from the open in "The Godfather", but the characters there are essentially Italians.
Thanks to this series for all the people- Marsha, Caroline, the great beloved James Cromwell.It is symbolic that Logan leaves on a day when the country is in chaos because of his henchman, because he chose Menken. This is another fact. There is one series left, I don't believe in the rise of Shiv at all.
out of the whole kaleidoscope of small tragedies, two very tiny scenes unexpectedly broke me: when Marsha took Carrie by the hand and when Carl and Frank told Shiv how they remembered her father
Romich.. I thought he'd be trampled in the crowd. Kieran is incredible - it's been a long time since she felt so sympathetic and hated the character at the same time Lucas ' interactions with all people are cool (except for his attitude towards Abby). playing with everyone at the same time. this is a businessman. I support his philosophy and mindset in life absolutely beautiful moment when Logan's women sat side by side in the front row - "oh I love being a woman" Ken - speechwriter of the year Shiv a moment before the crash, as always
I really like the fact that each episode is the next day, so much has already happened, and Logan died just a few days ago; and, frankly, it's sad to see how Kendall, Roman and Shiv continue to substitute each other, compete, I really wanted to see them all together, building something new or supporting the old, but this is clearly not their way and probably never has been, everyone wants to be on top of anything
Throughout the series, we empathized with each of the siblings in turn, believing, like themselves, that all their good intentions were being broken against their father. The last couple of episodes made it clear: it's not about the father for a long time. They're just the way they are: Ken is arrogant and mean, thinks he's good, but in fact, just give him a reason to spin intrigues against his closest ones. Rom is a coward and just a boy major who loves power. And Shiv is not so smart even in her favorite political field - apparently, all these years the presence of an influential father still spurred an "independent" career, and not a brilliant mind.
I think in the last series they will be waiting for another scam from the Swede and the new president, and they will remain on their own, without dad's company, without careers and in their problems. Thus, Logan will finally let them go.
Shiv will hit the happiness of motherhood, Rum will dump somewhere to hang out and do light startups, and Ken will go to another rehab (a manic smile and constant sniffling clearly hints that he has not shed tears). And Tom and Greg will remain in the system, where will she go without them) It's interesting to see in a week whether I was right or not.
@Ekaterina_Kanda: well, it's not about the father) the whole series is about what kind of people he made out of his children. even after his death, they repeat what he said, act as he would like, seek his posthumous approval. and Logan himself became like this because of his family, in particular his uncle, as his brother told at the funeral.
hitting on Shiv is generally strange. she managed to bring together a fascist and a Swede, although the brothers thought that Menken's support was in their pocket. she helped the Swede deal with a huge problem that he himself had created and which called into question the entire transaction. a lot can still happen, but Shiv is doing a great job.
Logan will never let them go - it's not for nothing that his huge mausoleum was shown, where places for his children have already been prepared.
@Ekaterina_Kanda: My father, as Marsha said, broke my heart. Yes, their father died, but it did not magically heal all that their father had inflicted on them. It was not Logan as such who prevented them, but how he raised them, how he treated them until the last day
Yes, that's an excuse. In fact, Tom didn't come because Logan wouldn't be offended anymore. After the horror of the plane, the usual ceremony is about nothing at all, and it's not fifteen to be so impressed, kamon. He's a grown man and he's probably seen some shit.
Many human thanks for Alexander Skarsgord in a suit. That's from the heart.
I knew that it would be at Roman's funeral that he would catch up, and he would fall down. Kieran is amazing.
I look forward to the children being left with nothing. The US CEO may be someone from the old guard, for example, everyone there has a lot of experience, but the same Jerry. Tom and Greg are options, but they are family—related with the Swarms, it is unlikely that letting them into such a position is a good option - the children will try to turn something through them.
I'm not ready, I'm 1000% not ready to say goodbye to the series. I watched the trailer for the final episode and tears appeared in my eyes from the fact that such a brilliant series is ending.
It hurts for Roman, the way he realized at the funeral that everything had happened, that his father really died, Kiran played brilliantly. When you sit and see HOW this realization comes. And in the end, Ken talked to him so unfairly, wants to be like a father and behaves like a father. I still have no idea how it will end.
@ElllaDee: So Ken is right, Roman screwed up, what else should he have told him, said that we would fix everything, but Menken actually wasn't shy in his expressions.
@Roh: he said this to Kendal, meaning that he managed to smooth over the moment, and the Novel was openly mocked by "whimper whimper little son." And of course he realized that Roman is a weakling and, in addition, he doesn't have enough brains not to climb with speeches if you don't control yourself.
I think the Swede will outplay everyone) since he and Ebba are clearly stirring up some kind of game. Ken, Roman and Shiv will be out of business, Tom will become US CEO. And Greg will take an important position.
I am for the old guard, professionalism and competence)), but it is unlikely that this will happen. I would also like Menken to fly with the presidency, which is also unlikely)).
I've been rooting for the great royal couple Tom and Greg on the throne for the last two years, and I really hope that when Mattson said about the US CEO, he meant him. so that the children can finally relax and take care of themselves and their destroyed psyche.
I missed Carrie looking at the coffin. they even showed Greg and Colin, but not her. And when Marsha took her hand, I burst into tears. I hope she will be fine.
- Are you pregnant? - Yes - From me? - ... The novel is just something. I thought he would be trampled in the end, I even closed my eyes instinctively. Phew, it worked out. Kalkin's game in this series > > everything else. If he does get an Emmy this year, then justice still exists somewhere in the world. It's even a bit of a pity that he will most likely go to the nomination for the main role, for the supporting role his chances would be much higher.
Oh, what a strong and sad speech from Brother Logan. About the terrible vicious circle of violence and generational trauma, which will not break in any way.
The final scene with Roman is one of the strongest for me in the series. He went to drown in the storm, which he himself generated.
And the brother's speech at the funeral is good. The ideal description of Putin's activities: "He was a man who pulled up the edges of the world here and there" (until at the end he pulled the tablecloth with all the dishes on himself too much). "Here and there he made the heavens a little darker. He closed human hearts. Fed the dark flame in people. A heavy, evil, decadent flame that warmed their hearts while others were freezing." (the flame of imaginary achievements and victories, false history, which will turn into the heaviest disruption of the covers) "And they saved grain while others were starving." (the largest theft in the history of mankind in absolute (not relative) numbers. The stars turned out that it became possible to steal so technologically, oil cost more than ever, and there was no one to stop it. Theft has even become a way of governing the state. After all, by allowing you to steal, you can make people loyal and at the same time hang on the hook. An old Chekist trick. The normal way of management for an organized criminal group. But not for the state. That's why it's in agony right now.)
A very touching ceremony. The cult of personality in all its glory.
Very sincere emotions and speeches without falsehood. Here they are open and you can immediately see who is the most vulnerable.
On the one hand, I am insanely sorry for them all - after all, broken children. But Shiv and Kendall are still more confident and find themselves outside the family. And Roman is an absolutely lost boy, very very lonely against their background, not needed by anyone. I really felt sorry for him, in a moment.
On the other hand, they are so eager for power, destroying themselves. So there is no place for pity, everything is deserved.
Strongly. You can feel how they worry and instantly come out of sensitivity when it comes to their own position in business.
What will you do at your father's funeral? Con: I will go to the future rival president to negotiate a diplomatic position for my resume of a politician Ken: Showman speeches that will make everyone respect me Shiv: We will make money, we will make money with the Swede, and then I can throw him off the pedestal Novel: I still didn't grieve in advance... On business now p...y (left to scold himself by kicking protesters)
Ken and Roman are tough. Very. Again trying to get used to the role of Logan. You're pro...xia. I'm nothing without you! I need you, loshok) I love you, brother))
For the first time in any series, the theme of grief, from the loss of a loved one, is so strongly revealed. I felt their pain. The breakdown of the Novel, the way they comforted him - right in the heart.
Roman thought he would be the new Logan, take his place. King of Dong, the appointee of presidents, will make a speech, "fuck" Marsha, will become the most important thing in Waystar. But standing in front of the crowd, he realized with horror that he was not taking out. Sobbing, he repeated over and over again, "I'm not ready." I guess that's what his real feelings were, and not the grief for his father that broke through.
а мне показалось, или в предыдущих сезонах никто не рассказывал историю Роуз? Её имя пару раз всплывало, что вот была у дедули сестра и умерла. Это первый раз рассказали?
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(Turned on the nerd) But it's still strange, I looked at a couple of pages of other series. The Boys: Urban and Quaid are ahead of Starr, Moriarty and Alonso, and social ones with the same number of episodes; Meisel: Midge (B), Susie (B), Joel (Z) go alphabetically, followed by Mom (H) and dad (S) Midge, who according to this logic should be earlier Joel. It is logical, of course, that the "main characters" are ahead, but then all siblings should clearly be higher than Frank and Greg in the Heirs.
-Privacy, pussy, pasta
I love how they manage to dilute even the most intense series with such moments:D
Shiv thinks that the Swede chose her, and the fascist president will support her candidacy, so naive, I wouldn't be surprised if under the US CEO he even thinks about Tom, who at least works with experience.
I liked the moment with Logan's women - Caroline has a couple of seconds of screen time to remind her what a bitch she is (her reaction to "made me and my 3 siblings" is also gorgeous), Marsha in this series also liked the reaction to Carrie, the Shiv scene is respect. Well, I will note Jerry's reaction to the breakdown of the Novel, it's a pity that their union broke up.
I can't believe that the finale is in a week - I want to know how it will end, but I also don't want to say goodbye to such a gorgeous series.
Lucas ' interactions with all people are cool (except for his attitude towards Abby). playing with everyone at the same time. this is a businessman. I support his philosophy and mindset in life
absolutely beautiful moment when Logan's women sat side by side in the front row - "oh I love being a woman"
Ken - speechwriter of the year
Shiv a moment before the crash, as always
The last couple of episodes made it clear: it's not about the father for a long time. They're just the way they are: Ken is arrogant and mean, thinks he's good, but in fact, just give him a reason to spin intrigues against his closest ones. Rom is a coward and just a boy major who loves power. And Shiv is not so smart even in her favorite political field - apparently, all these years the presence of an influential father still spurred an "independent" career, and not a brilliant mind.
I think in the last series they will be waiting for another scam from the Swede and the new president, and they will remain on their own, without dad's company, without careers and in their problems. Thus, Logan will finally let them go.
Shiv will hit the happiness of motherhood, Rum will dump somewhere to hang out and do light startups, and Ken will go to another rehab (a manic smile and constant sniffling clearly hints that he has not shed tears).
And Tom and Greg will remain in the system, where will she go without them)
It's interesting to see in a week whether I was right or not.
hitting on Shiv is generally strange. she managed to bring together a fascist and a Swede, although the brothers thought that Menken's support was in their pocket. she helped the Swede deal with a huge problem that he himself had created and which called into question the entire transaction. a lot can still happen, but Shiv is doing a great job.
Logan will never let them go - it's not for nothing that his huge mausoleum was shown, where places for his children have already been prepared.
I knew that it would be at Roman's funeral that he would catch up, and he would fall down. Kieran is amazing.
I look forward to the children being left with nothing. The US CEO may be someone from the old guard, for example, everyone there has a lot of experience, but the same Jerry. Tom and Greg are options, but they are family—related with the Swarms, it is unlikely that letting them into such a position is a good option - the children will try to turn something through them.
It hurts for Roman, the way he realized at the funeral that everything had happened, that his father really died, Kiran played brilliantly. When you sit and see HOW this realization comes. And in the end, Ken talked to him so unfairly, wants to be like a father and behaves like a father.
I still have no idea how it will end.
I've been rooting for the great royal couple Tom and Greg on the throne for the last two years, and I really hope that when Mattson said about the US CEO, he meant him. so that the children can finally relax and take care of themselves and their destroyed psyche.
I missed Carrie looking at the coffin. they even showed Greg and Colin, but not her. And when Marsha took her hand, I burst into tears. I hope she will be fine.
- Your father has one problem: in the last few days he has lost all his influence
The magnificent two)
- Yes
- From me?
- ...
The novel is just something.
I thought he would be trampled in the end, I even closed my eyes instinctively. Phew, it worked out.
Kalkin's game in this series > > everything else.
If he does get an Emmy this year, then justice still exists somewhere in the world. It's even a bit of a pity that he will most likely go to the nomination for the main role, for the supporting role his chances would be much higher.
That such Logans are not born, they become.
And the brother's speech at the funeral is good. The ideal description of Putin's activities:
"He was a man who pulled up the edges of the world here and there" (until at the end he pulled the tablecloth with all the dishes on himself too much).
"Here and there he made the heavens a little darker. He closed human hearts. Fed the dark flame in people. A heavy, evil, decadent flame that warmed their hearts while others were freezing." (the flame of imaginary achievements and victories, false history, which will turn into the heaviest disruption of the covers)
"And they saved grain while others were starving." (the largest theft in the history of mankind in absolute (not relative) numbers. The stars turned out that it became possible to steal so technologically, oil cost more than ever, and there was no one to stop it. Theft has even become a way of governing the state. After all, by allowing you to steal, you can make people loyal and at the same time hang on the hook. An old Chekist trick. The normal way of management for an organized criminal group. But not for the state. That's why it's in agony right now.)
Very sincere emotions and speeches without falsehood. Here they are open and you can immediately see who is the most vulnerable.
On the one hand, I am insanely sorry for them all - after all, broken children. But Shiv and Kendall are still more confident and find themselves outside the family. And Roman is an absolutely lost boy, very very lonely against their background, not needed by anyone. I really felt sorry for him, in a moment.
On the other hand, they are so eager for power, destroying themselves. So there is no place for pity, everything is deserved.
And I just want to bury Greg.
What will you do at your father's funeral?
Con: I will go to the future rival president to negotiate a diplomatic position for my resume of a politician
Ken: Showman speeches that will make everyone respect me
Shiv: We will make money, we will make money with the Swede, and then I can throw him off the pedestal
Novel: I still didn't grieve in advance... On business now p...y (left to scold himself by kicking protesters)
Ken and Roman are tough. Very. Again trying to get used to the role of Logan.
You're pro...xia. I'm nothing without you! I need you, loshok) I love you, brother))
Karl is an abominable type
She cried with Roman, it's a pity that their union with Jerry was destroyed, she could have supported him