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s03e18 — The Last Heartbreak

Lucifer — s03e18 — The Last Heartbreak

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Duration: 43 min.
Released: 19.03.201820.03.2018 03:00
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3 season
s03e18
s03e14 - My Brother's Keeper
s03e15 - High School Poppycock
s03e16 - Infernal Guinea Pig
s03e17 - Let Pinhead Sing!
s03e18 - The Last Heartbreak
s03e19 - Orange Is the New Maze
s03e20 - The Angel of San Bernardino
s03e21 - Anything Pierce Can Do I Can Do Better
s03e22 - All Hands on Decker

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Weirdo_o
Weirdo_o
19 Mar 2018, 10:43 # Show original
Lutz's jealousy and concern for Chloe... All this, aww, of course, but for 3 seasons it's already in the liver. Maybe you'll finally admit to her, huh? And it's his epiphany that she needs someone better than the devil... And the decision to stand aside because she said that Pierce is a "good man"... WTF? Here even a complete idiot will understand that he needs her only for the sake of breaking the curse

And Maze:(Damn, judging by the spoilers, she's going to Hell... Well, why?
Katya_Nva
Katya_Nva
19 Mar 2018, 11:26 # Show original
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Weirdo_o
Weirdo_o
19 Mar 2018, 12:07 #
https://vk.com/wall-108497584_5480
Damn_Muse
Damn_Muse
19 Mar 2018, 19:16 # Show original
At the moment when Chloe and Pierce were lying unconscious on the floor, I really wanted to naively imagine that Marcus had finally died and everything would return to normal, but no! I was touched by Lucifer hugging Chloe, but damn it, Lucie, stop pretending to be a fool and pretend that she's just a partner and you don't care who she's dating! It was normal for the first two seasons, but now why? I wouldn't be surprised if he, like Maze, throws himself into all sorts of desperate situations.
And Maze, who offended Trixie... that's for sure the last heartbreak.
Damn_Muse
Damn_Muse
20 Mar 2018, 03:18 # Show original
@Damn_Muse: by the way, right now the #RenewLucifer tag is being promoted on Twitter in order for the series to be renewed for another season, so if someone is not too lazy, participate, but don't forget to add @foxtv.
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
23 Mar 2018, 21:48 # Show original
@Damn_Muse: I know from experience with "@ABC_Channel #RenewAgentCarter" and "@mtv_channel #SaveFakingIt" that hashtags don't work. Petitions for Change.org by the way, too.
And "@CBS #SupergirlSeason2" worked only by a stretch, and even then only because another, less demanding channel took over the series.

Is there a risk of closing "Lucifer" after the third season? Are the ratings falling? Why the panic?
Damn_Muse
Damn_Muse
25 Mar 2018, 01:00 # Show original
@Kostyurik: I also think it wasn't much use, but at least we tried \_(ツ)_/
As for the risk, well, there is always one, especially considering that ratings have been slowly declining lately, and all this hype was supported by Ellis and Woodside. On the other hand, the same hashtag was displayed after the first (seemingly) season, and in the third season there are 6 more episodes, which, according to Tom, are among the best of the entire series. So these were rather preventive measures.
PlanePassenger
PlanePassenger
30 Mar 2018, 14:32 # Show original
@Damn_Muse: the whole fandom will start watching from official sources for money, then we can talk about real support
alavitka
alavitka
31 Mar 2018, 05:50 # Show original
@PlanePassenger: I tried once, they said "soryan, we don't sell to your country"%-\ Well, who is the fool?
PlanePassenger
PlanePassenger
31 Mar 2018, 06:46 # Show original
@alavitka: Fox TV Channel
MuffinTop
MuffinTop
19 Nov 2018, 14:35 # Show original
@alavitka: that's the most annoying thing) I don't mind paying for all kinds of subscriptions, but even on Netflix, not everything is shown to us))
мальмышь
мальмышь
PRO
20 Mar 2018, 16:27 # Show original
@Damn_Muse: Yes, it was already a huge bust with Trixie.
PsevdoSTALKER
PsevdoSTALKER
23 Mar 2018, 01:14 # Show original
@Damn_Muse: He probably has a strong dependence on Chloe being around, but he didn't achieve it. Every time Lucifer has an interest, exactly until he realizes who or what it is. That is, if Decker becomes his girlfriend, then she may stop being interesting to him. I hope I explained it clearly enough. I have a rough idea of what's going on with him, but it's hard to put it into words.
Yellzz
Yellzz
19 Mar 2018, 21:08 # Show original
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alavitka
alavitka
19 Mar 2018, 22:04 # Show original
@Yellzz: So he didn't seem to lose his physical strength, and his wings returned. And "finding out secret desires" has not gone away. He only lost the devil's face, actually.
Идиотка
Идиотка
20 Mar 2018, 03:14 # Show original
I dare say that we are talking about intimacy (distance) with Chloe.
But I'm really extremely curious about what Pierce is trying to achieve: if he expects "anti-immortality" from Chloe, then it seems to me that mutual feelings are necessary for this effect. Otherwise, if he is counting on Lucifer's jealousy and determination, then it is also deaf here :)
мальмышь
мальмышь
PRO
20 Mar 2018, 16:28 #
@alavitka: Ага, его фирменного лица очень не хватало. )))
alavitka
alavitka
21 Mar 2018, 04:03 #
@Идиотка: Выведывает тайные желания он плечом к плечу с Хлоей постоянно. И супер-силы не лишался, неоднократно злодеев швырял у неё на глазах. Даже лицо дьявола, когда оно было, она чуть не узрела в отражении, стоя за спиной. Да и вообще, оно пропало совсем, а не только рядом с ней. Рядом с ней только неуязвимость пропадала. И я не знаю, откуда вдруг такая версия, что для этого нужны взаимные чувства. Разве что Пирс так думает. Но во-первых, это не логично, а во-вторых, он на чувства уже не способен, похоже (судя по последней сцене, до этого я купилась, но раз такой цинизм, то у него шансов нет).
Идиотка
Идиотка
24 Mar 2018, 01:33 #
@alavitka: Видимо, я неверно сформулировала сообщение: речь идёт не в моём сообщении, а в корневом =)
Да, Люцифер чуть ли не с первых серий какого-то парня выкинул в окно =)
Относительно чувств - я имела в виду, что мне кажется, Люцифер их испытывает, что делает его человечнее, и добавляет уязвимости =) Во всяком случае похоже на это в какой-то степени.
Именно, Пирс не способен, согласна =) Я честно говоря, изначально думала на расчёт на ревность =) Уж слишком неожиданно резко и приторно Пирс начал вести себя, что в совокупности оставило во мне серьезные сомнения =)
alavitka
alavitka
28 Mar 2018, 03:55 #
@Идиотка: Должна отдать должное, Пирс прикидывается очень убедительно =))
alavitka
alavitka
19 Mar 2018, 22:08 # Show original
Damn, this hypertrophied idiocy of the main characters in their relationships with each other is starting to finish me off. Seriozli??? The most adult character there in terms of behavior is an asshole detective. And Mase was completely off the rails. It will be funny if in the end she experiences something like this and repents and becomes "fluffy" again.
I only like how Chloe is embarrassed in front of Cain and how Lucifer is gentle with her, but the rest of the time this drama is sucked out of my finger.
alavitka
alavitka
19 Mar 2018, 23:45 #
И да, ещё флешбэк про прежнюю жизнь Каина понравился.
Rikcon
Rikcon
20 Mar 2018, 03:59 #
@alavitka: BOLO - синоним к APB

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-points_bulletin

P.S веткой промахнулся, это ответ на коммент ниже )
alavitka
alavitka
21 Mar 2018, 04:06 # Show original
@Rikcon: Thank you, milhuman, I have never met in serics until now (well, or after the eponymous series at least)
Lubo4kaa
Lubo4kaa
07 Apr 2020, 05:09 #
С самого начала действительно люблю Дэниела, потому что он один там АДЕКВАТНЫЙ!!
alavitka
alavitka
19 Mar 2018, 22:33 #
Кстати, заметили отсылку на сериал APB? Как будто Пирс воспользовался их приложением =)) (ведь такой штуки в реальности нет, да? полиция подаёт "в розыск" BOLO, а не APB)
darksidius
darksidius
20 Mar 2018, 20:01 #
@alavitka: можно и так, и так
the episode aired 20.03.2018
kamikaze
kamikaze
20 Mar 2018, 03:14 #
"Что этот ниггер себе позволяет" (с)
Похоже Шарлотте ещё сильнее понадобится психотерапевт :D
alavitka
alavitka
21 Mar 2018, 04:09 #
@kamikaze: На самом деле, неизвестно. Это Линда в стабильности была не готова к таким потрясениям, а Шарлотте объяснения наоборот могут помочь, ведь она уже пережила нечто выбивающее из колеи, просто не понимает, что, но раз она помнит ад, то слова Аминя не покажутся ей безумием. Для неё наоборот это единственный человек, который точно знает, что происшедшее с ней - не глюк и она не сумасшедшая.
Ananasik214
Ananasik214
20 Mar 2018, 11:11 #
О эти классные параллели с любовной историей Люцио и Хлои. Когда Люцифер не может сам себе признаться, что любит эту женщину. И тут она запала на другого. Интересно, превратится ли это в мини войну между Люцифером и Каином
Ananasik214
Ananasik214
20 Mar 2018, 15:57 #
Блин, Люцио, почему ты не признался в своих чувствах, был же такой момент
мальмышь
мальмышь
PRO
20 Mar 2018, 16:34 #
@Ananasik214: ИМХО переживает, что если явно проявит свои чувства, то Папа может вмешаться. Не важно для помощи или для наказания. Люцифер же не хочет никого в их отношения вмешивать. По этому поводу и комплексует. В прошлой серии, с певицей, он постоянно на небо посматривал.
alavitka
alavitka
21 Mar 2018, 04:09 #
@мальмышь: Он слишком помешан на своём папе.
dezmond774
dezmond774
22 Mar 2018, 02:47 #
@alavitka: Ну он же узнал в прошлом сезоне, что для рождения Хлои Отец специально отправлял Аменадила благославить мать Хлои или что-то в этом роде. Т.е. Хлоя была рождена от прямого вмешательства с Небес и играет какую-то роль в плане Отца. А это триггерит паранойю Люси.
alavitka
alavitka
23 Mar 2018, 08:35 #
@dezmond774: Вот именно, паранойя - это нездоровое состояние. У него детские комплексы - всё время думать об отце или о том, как ему насолить, считая, что он только и думает, как бы прибрать тебя к рукам. Да делай, что хочешь дружок (собственно, так и происходит), чего оглядываться? А то ни себе, ни людям.
leyton08
leyton08
20 Mar 2018, 17:15 #
Хм, прошел почти сезон, а Амендиль только узнал, что Шарлотта не мама... Или я слишком невнимательная и они правда нигде не пересекались, или это как-то очень странно, неужели Люцифер Аменадилю даже случайно не сказал, что Шарлотта теперь человек и более того работает иногда вместе с ними над делами.

Блин, такая Мейз мне определенно не нравится, ребенка обидеть это уже вообще край. Трикси же не виновата в их треугольнике. Короче #вернитеадекватнуюмейз

Эта внучка Кей, почему мне кажется, она не так проста. А вообще, может это все-таки таки та Кей из прошлого?
Slimov
Slimov
25 Mar 2018, 11:15 #
@leyton08: Я сначала подумал, что на самом деле убийца та официантка, а внучка продолжила ее дело : )
WTheF
WTheF
20 Mar 2018, 21:12 #
Не могу понять никак. Пирсу Хлоя нужна для того, чтобы:
1. Стать уязвимым? Но его уже подстрелили при ней, и он выяснил, что это так не работает.
2. Он думает, что если она будет его любить, он станет уязвимым?
3. Он решил довести Люцифера этим до ручки, чтобы дьявол его порешал? Самый адекватный пора вариант.
Alex98
Alex98
20 Mar 2018, 22:01 #
@WTheF: при том, Люци вроде его уже пытался порешать, или там нужен особый способ
WTheF
WTheF
20 Mar 2018, 22:29 #
Ну, может он не очень старался? А сейчас его как бомбанет, и пока-пока, Пирс
Filadora
Filadora
22 Mar 2018, 21:52 #
@WTheF: )))ага, найдет в Аду кинжал из криптонита ... и пока-пока Пирс))))
id369325427
id369325427
13 Sep 2020, 15:38 #
@WTheF: помню, в какой-то серии Пирс говорил, что очень боится привязаться к кому-то. Может он надеется, что он сам её полюбит? (Я только смотрю, знаю, что уже больше двух лет прошло, сорян, что не ко времени)
julss25
julss25
21 Sep 2020, 05:25 #
@id369325427: я тоже только смотрю и задалась тем же вопросом.
yourpreacher
yourpreacher
19 Dec 2020, 21:42 #
@julss25: ощущение, что за 2 года зрители эволюционировали и стали внимательнее
vbkb
vbkb
20 Mar 2018, 22:11 #
И правда не понятно как простая Хлоя может помочь умереть бесмертному или снять проклятия.

Интерсно если бы Хлоя знала кто на самом деле Люцифер и кто Пирс. Кого бы она выбрала и выбрала бы вообще? А вообще пора бы ей обо всём узнать, сколько можно уже в невединие ходить.
alavitka
alavitka
21 Mar 2018, 04:13 #
@vbkb: Да, теперь с Шарлоттой, похоже, все будут знать, кроме неё.
А с другой стороны, он в самом начале он ей прямо говорил, кто такой и даже пытался ей всё сказать-показать, один раз даже почти получилось, но она не захотела верить, точнее была готова, вот только неуязвимость, при помощи которой он хотел это доказать, не сработала при ней (а почему лицом дьявола не хотел, я понимаю - мог бы навсегда отпугнуть, это не то, что с чего стоит начинать, крылья - получше вариант).
DimasFantomas
DimasFantomas
20 Mar 2018, 22:26 #
Как же меня бесит Пирс... Еще с первых секунд его появления, еще до того, как его личность была раскрыта - уже бесил...
alavitka
alavitka
21 Mar 2018, 04:13 #
@DimasFantomas: А чем собственно?
id_evergreen
id_evergreen
21 Feb 2022, 07:43 #
@alavitka: ходит с bitch face
alavitka
alavitka
28 Feb 2022, 00:19 #
@id_evergreen: I don't know what it is or how it looks like
Помидор
Помидор
23 May 2018, 21:04 #
@DimasFantomas: а мне нравится Кларк Кент((9
yanna_l
yanna_l
21 Mar 2018, 03:52 #
Арррр, как же бомбит от этой серии!
Не знаю чего конкретно добивается Пирс, но ощущение что он хочет выбесить Люци. По крайней мере меня уже эта новая стратегия Пирса, уж очень бесит. При том что это все так явно - попытки пригласить на свидание, натянутая улыбочка. Не смотря на то, что Тому Уэлингу отлично подошел этот образ, не могу смотреть на это... Быстрее бы уже арка с Каином закончилась.
Filadora
Filadora
22 Mar 2018, 21:47 #
@lohvinenko_yana: А мне очень не хочется, чтобы Уэллинг исчезал из сериала. И я бы даже простила Пирсу Хлою (если бы у них действительно была любовь), но вы правы - их отношения какие-то вымученные и натянутые, поэтому арка Каин-Хлоя ужасно раздражает. Пусть сценаристы побыстрее придумают, как прекратить это "безобразие" с Хлоей)))), но оставить Уэллинга в сериале.
Danman
Danman
21 Mar 2018, 04:26 #
@leyton08: актриса из Хорошего Доктора - только сегодня серия вышла, и тут опять ее лицо XD
leyton08
leyton08
21 Mar 2018, 12:38 #
@Danman: Имеете ввиду девушка из прошлого Пирса?
lady_kana
lady_kana
04 Apr 2018, 01:30 #
@Danman:тоооочно))) а я то думааааааю где же я ее видела и чего лицо такое знакомое))))
Eclipse12
Eclipse12
08 Apr 2018, 06:56 #
@Danman: привет, Доктор Резник)))
MaryNoir
MaryNoir
21 Mar 2018, 16:38 #
бедный люци )) я думаю, хоть он и знает желания пирса, наконец то нормально себя повел как взрослый мужик, и может это потом и приведет к последствиям ( там разбитое сердце клои и так далее ) но все таки имхо лучше решение чем какое либо другое )
а вообще да , блин, пора бы уже хотя бы признаться ей в любви , я понимаю что то, что он сам дьявол рановато еще, но уж хочется хоть какой то правды мне ) а то если они так до конца шоу будут бегать в незнании - надоест )
мейз выбесила меня ) на сколько тупой и эгоистичной можно быть то (
в целом хорошая серия)
chch93
chch93
21 Mar 2018, 17:18 #
Подождите, то есть... Аминадиль не знал? Вот же слоупок столетия. Но может это поможет и ему, и Шарлотте, кто знает.
Вроде и логичным кажется всё это безумство Мейз в попытках забыться, отринуть чувства, несет её по бездорожью, а вроде и за Трикси сердечко болит. Но, думаю, это тот случай, когда нужно скатиться на самое дно, чтобы понять, кто тебе нужен и что тебе нужно. Дэн так аккуратно, и в то же время сильно указал ей на ошибки, и несмотря ни на что переживал за подругу, что это не перестает трогать, какой хороший всё-таки персонаж.
Суровость Веллинга -- это как новый сорт сексуальности, ей Богу. Только обвел таки нас вокруг пальца, я ему чутка поверила таки, а он всё же просто ее использует. Не скажу, что это делает персонажа хуже или лучше, скорее подтверждает тот факт, что вечное одиночество заставляет стать куда более безразличным к любым человеческим страданиям. Он видит лишь цель, и он к этой цели идет, иногда ностальгируя о потерянном, но тут же снова выставляя свои стены вперед. *на самом деле, Лорен чем-то напоминает мне Эрику Дюранс, и всё становится крайне забавным*
Элла прям отражение фандома, обожаю.
Меня в очередной приятно удивило, как Люци благородно отошел в сторону и всё, считая, что Хлоя достойна лучшего. На самом деле, вроде сидишь повизгиваешь с этих ревнивых взглядом Люцифера, и как он чуть ли из костюма не выпрыгивал, видя, как Пирс подкатывает к его детективу, но это действительно поднадоело, мы же уже всё это видели, и не один раз. Он ценит Хлои, он переживает за Хлои, она ему важна. Что дальше то?
Что я могу точно отметить про этот сериал, который сюжетно на самом деле радует меньше, чем мог бы: ни один персонаж за все три сезона меня не раздражал до трясучки, всех в итоге понимаешь и всем сочувствуешь.
dezmond774
dezmond774
22 Mar 2018, 02:48 #
Флэшбеки отлично работают. Нужно больше таких моментов из прошлых веков жизни Пирса.
Laowai
Laowai
19 Apr 2020, 03:29 #
@dezmond774: сразу вспомнился Доктор Морган из "Forever" и интереснейшие флешбеки о его жизни в прошлых эпохах)
НадеждаТ
НадеждаТ
20 May 2023, 17:33 #
@dezmond774: О, Tom Welling в прошлом прекрасен.
Его Clark Kent 1940г в s06e20 — Noir Тайны Смолвиля (сериал 2001 – 2011) Smallville https://www.kinopoisk.ru/series/86193 или в Парклэнд (2013)
Parkland https://www.kinopoisk.ru/film/698515
Зыза
Зыза
22 Mar 2018, 18:34 # Show original
Poor Lucie 😭
Filadora
Filadora
22 Mar 2018, 22:01 # Show original
For a complete set of "supernatural patients", the psychotherapist clearly lacks Cain and Chloe))) But we are patient viewers - let's wait
SetaKis
SetaKis
23 Mar 2018, 00:49 # Show original
I even believed in Pierce's sincerity the whole episode, but at the end... What kind of insidious plan is he up to again? I had two thoughts: 1) either he wants to piss off Lucifer so that he does the incredible and still kills Cain; 2) or he wants to somehow blackmail Licifer's daddy with Chloe's life and safety, she is clearly important in some way. But the first one is still somewhat problematic, because Lucifer learned Zen and almost blessed Chloe for an affair with Pierce. And the second one I can't imagine, I think that Daddy, like the FBI, does not negotiate with terrorists.
Oliverell22
Oliverell22
23 Mar 2018, 03:26 # Show original
I'm not sure I can forgive Maze for saying that about Trixie.
Мася
Мася
23 Mar 2018, 09:55 # Show original
For some reason, when watching, I remembered the episode about the Blue Butterfly from Castle.
Oliverell22
Oliverell22
24 Mar 2018, 02:51 # Show original
@Masya: it was a great series...Eh)
Мася
Мася
25 Mar 2018, 00:33 # Show original
@Oliverell22: The episode after which Novafilm stopped voicing the series.
id369325427
id369325427
13 Sep 2020, 15:44 # Show original
@Masya: another series of "Bones" about the club, when Booth was recovering from surgery
ann_mihaelis
ann_mihaelis
PRO
23 Mar 2018, 10:32 # Show original
Somehow it was obvious who the killer was. Even when they arrived at his house. The rest is not even worth talking about
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
23 Mar 2018, 21:34 # Show original
@ann_mihaelis: Thank you, of course, that at least someone noticed the elephant in the room!

To call Andrew Leeds himself, who once played Christopher Pelant, for the role of the killer (for those who have not watched the series "Bones", Pelant is an awesome criminal genius and a homicidal maniac. Something like Red John from The Mentalist or Tri-X-Key from Castle. Well, or Moriarty, with a stretch) - in any other series, this would break the entire detective line, because one of the main signs of the serialist is "you see a familiar face flashed in the detective series - so it was a killer"

However, I must admit that in the end, because of how everything in the episode was filmed and presented, I managed to forget about Pelant's face and think about the awkward kid with the pastrami, the radio station host, and in the end, Maddie, Kay's granddaughter - that would be a turning point!

So Pelant, which turned out to be a criminal, became for me more of a double plot twist than its absence.
Помидор
Помидор
23 May 2018, 21:06 # Show original
@Kostyurik: very positive!
id264460076
id264460076
14 Dec 2019, 18:41 # Show original
This actor is always playing maniacs of all kinds)))
Севереса
Севереса
PRO
23 Mar 2018, 16:45 # Show original
The song from Men in Black 3 was played. Returned in 2012
hua_mulan
hua_mulan
24 Mar 2018, 03:46 # Show original
@Severesa: And from Dirty Dancing with Grey and Patrick. )) It is clear that the song is even earlier, but it gained fame thanks to this film.)
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
23 Mar 2018, 21:45 # Show original
At some point, I thought that the creators of the series would avoid the obvious love triangle and bring Pierce together with Maddie, Kay's granddaughter. Partly because I would like Fiona Gubelmann to stay in the series for a little longer.

I hope that in the end the situation with the triangle will be resolved, and preferably without getting rid of Tom Welling. Just one season of "Lucifer" after too long a break after "Smallville" is very little, I want to enjoy this man again for several years in a row.

For some reason, flashbacks from Cain's past reminded me of the TV series "New Amsterdam" and "Eternity". And immediately there was such a sweet sadness...
alexevah
alexevah
24 Mar 2018, 00:33 # Show original
They made the last bitch out of Maze, what the fuck. He behaves like a woman in PMS, only special, divine - a fucking thousand times stronger. It was an ugly act with Trixie, ugh, what an abomination, I offended the girl for nothing. This is a crying face : (Too much, and hard. The rest is somehow nothing at all. The series is more than average.
NutaLeende
NutaLeende
PRO
24 Mar 2018, 03:32 # Show original
I was very surprised by the appearance of the Moose from Step Forward) it has not been seen for a long time
a_l_amirovna
a_l_amirovna
25 Mar 2018, 01:19 # Show original
@NutaLeende: Is this a boy with a pastor?? I would never have found out
nens8_8y
nens8_8y
24 Mar 2018, 19:19 # Show original
A boring, meaningless series. I liked Amenadil, he used to be so kind of wise, the mainstay of sanity in this story, and Dan was a "shower" and a walking disaster. And now Amenadil is always laughing with his attempts to please the pope, to comprehend the pope's plan, to fulfill the pope's plan...And Dan pushes wise thoughts and guides the lost on the right path. A funny role reversal.
I liked Maze. It is always nice to see her and, it seems to me, a very natural development of her line. Trixie, of course, is immensely sorry. I would like to see them reconcile as soon as possible.
Slimov
Slimov
25 Mar 2018, 11:29 # Show original
@nens8_8y: rather than a natural development, but a sudden character drain :)
mrskylines
mrskylines
PRO
25 Mar 2018, 18:01 # Show original
Doesn't it bother you that she's a demon? She should have no human feelings or empathy for anyone at all.
Slimov
Slimov
25 Mar 2018, 18:57 # Show original
@mrskylines: Doesn't it bother you that the series ruins this concept from the very beginning?
And what does the presence of feelings have to do with it, they have been there for a long time, they turned on the idiocy of the character to the fullest, not feelings.
nens8_8y
nens8_8y
25 Mar 2018, 19:56 # Show original
@Slimov: It's hard to call the main idea of the character a drain. Maze has been systematically humanized for the third season, overgrown with feelings, relationships, attachments, weaknesses and everything else. Yes, she went to psychotherapy. It's time to accept that there are demons, angels and devils in this series.
Slimov
Slimov
25 Mar 2018, 20:23 # Show original
@nens8_8y: so in your opinion, the presence of feelings cuts off the adequacy and basis of the character completely? Because mysticism and supernatural entities are not important here, if Maze had originally been just a brutal lady, not a demon, and then she would have suffered all over because of the guy she dumped herself (as far as I remember), I would have called it a sudden character drain.
It's like if Pierce starts crying after 10 episodes after he gets hit.
alavitka
alavitka
28 Mar 2018, 04:05 # Show original
@Slimov: And I've been saying for a long time that screenwriters don't have any emotional coherence in their characters. This is their weak point. From which no one is spared, but writing emotions when you don't understand their ways is somewhat strange. Perhaps that's why the most cool episodes here are just "fillers", all sorts of extravaganzas and other reckless things that you rarely find in the serial world. But as soon as you start spreading emotions, put on mittens so that you don't break your face! =)) However, this is a very unpopular opinion for obvious reasons =))
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
28 Mar 2018, 04:43 # Show original
@alavitka: "coherence"...

Thank you for "forcing" me to Google, I learned a new word. But why not say "correlation" or even better, "consistency"?
alavitka
alavitka
31 Mar 2018, 05:51 # Show original
@Kostyurik: connectivity
KonstantinRomeow
KonstantinRomeow
31 Mar 2018, 07:57 # Show original
@alavitka: here! Even better.
Brevity is a sister, as they say :-)
Enigma1993
Enigma1993
25 Mar 2018, 03:57 # Show original
After all, actor Welling's charm is simply unreal. Let him be left in the series for good.
Gordey
Gordey
26 Mar 2018, 21:39 # Show original
Here's a Pier infection after all!!
centik
centik
29 Mar 2018, 00:07 # Show original
- .. I need to ask you something..
- Good
- How did you recover from the breakup with the detective when I came along and replaced you?
- You didn't replace me))
- That's right, yes. That would suggest that we are on the same level.
:D:D:D
lady_kana
lady_kana
04 Apr 2018, 01:36 # Show original
I liked the pier in flashback more than in real life))
lady_kana
lady_kana
04 Apr 2018, 01:36 # Show original
@lady_kana: collection of stones - surprised))
LUXEON
LUXEON
09 May 2018, 01:03 # Show original
A beautiful flashback and Lucie's jealousy, but most of all I remember why his gorgeous suit))
ridie
ridie
08 Jun 2019, 05:08 # Show original
I like everything about this series, except for the already empty line with Chloe. I got this slowburn with the suffering.
lazzolvan
lazzolvan
10 Nov 2019, 01:00 # Show original
Two morons - Chloe and Lucie. Well, as many guys as you can, season 3 is already here, and the relationship hasn't moved one iota. It seemed like cuties were kissing a season ago, and now... What we started with is what we came to. Lucifer is changing, but Chloe is not. OPERA HOUSE, LUCIFER, tell Chloe already and let's have our hearts and kisses, and not all that the authors have made of the wonderful idea of the devil falling in love with a person
lazzolvan
lazzolvan
10 Nov 2019, 01:02 # Show original
DO YOU GUYS REMEMBER WHEN CHLOE AND LUCIFER KISSED, YES, I REMEMBER TOO
id264460076
id264460076
14 Dec 2019, 18:39 # Show original
And I think it's perfectly understandable why he let her go. Just because he loves it very much. And he wishes her happiness. Even if not with him.

Maze is a fool.
For some reason, I thought that the waitress (from the real one) would turn out to be Pierce's granddaughter.
SilveriaW
SilveriaW
06 Jul 2020, 21:17 # Show original
Somewhere here it gets boring to watch the series (( the characters don't really develop, but for a second it's already the end of the third season, and you believe them less and less from season to season. The behavior of the seemingly demons of hell and the lord himself, sometimes a little childish, as if they were not thousands of years old... Well, there is no progress towards why Chloe is special either. In general, where it was possible to deploy a mega interesting plot, it all comes down to CSI-type investigations. And this series will be pumped out for as long as the unfortunate Supernatural. It's a pity.
katenka_dolce
katenka_dolce
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09 Sep 2020, 06:14 # Show original
Oh, jealous Lucie is just adorable.😍 And how he lovingly hugged Chloe on the floor) But if you dynamite her so hard the rest of the time, she won't wait forever, kamon, Luci, don't be stupid
miss_Julia
miss_Julia
23 Sep 2020, 00:23 # Show original
Somehow everything is disappointing this season. Except, of course, Pierce. He's a sweetheart. But Lucifer, who can't decide what he wants. Linda is getting boring. If earlier their sessions with Lucifer were one of the most favorite moments in the series, now there are very few of them and everything has somehow become snotty. Amenadiel is generally a complete disappointment. In previous seasons, he somehow developed and became cool and interesting, but now the character is generally stuck and has become boring. The most striking event is his "relationship" with Linda and his attempt to tell the truth to Charlotte. Let's see what happens. And here's Mase...There are just no words. She used to be a favorite, what happens to her, behaves worse than the most moody teenager, and the way she offended little Trixie, it's just too much. In general, the third season personally disappoints me.

Oh, and yet, hardly many people pay attention to this, but apparently they changed their makeup artist, because absolutely everyone's makeup is just plain squalid! He just ages Linda specifically. Of course, she is not young, but somehow the previous master hid it better, and apparently they changed the brand of cosmetics. You can see how many layers of foundation and powder she has on her face, it's terrible. Even on Lucifer, the makeup has become much more noticeable, plus he looks somehow very tired. In general, they don't try.
Bob2013
Bob2013
23 Sep 2020, 01:23 # Show original
@SilveriaW: I will support you.
It's getting boring too.
No one changes, despite the changed circumstances. Each character is moderately pleasant. But take someone away-I won't even notice.
Lucifer is especially frustrating, retaining his pristine goofiness. Although he showed such hopes! Linda is a shitty psychologist.
ssddkkvv
ssddkkvv
01 Oct 2020, 15:06 # Show original
So is Pierce using her or what? I don't understand.
but if Lucifer had stayed with Chloe, everything could have been different.
id264460076
id264460076
01 Oct 2020, 18:46 # Show original
@ssddkkvv: Yes, it uses
loving_w
loving_w
14 Oct 2020, 06:21 # Show original
every episode I wonder what kind of money Amenadiel lives on and what he does on earth in general, except walking around women and bullying lucie. HOW HE PAID FOR THIS COFFEE!!!!!!!
id264460076
id264460076
14 Oct 2020, 12:21 # Show original
@loving_w: his brother is fabulously rich)))
loving_w
loving_w
14 Oct 2020, 17:48 # Show original
@id264460076: I've been thinking about it too, but it seems to me, considering how often they quarrel with Luci, Luci is not ready to keep him on maintenance)))
id264460076
id264460076
14 Oct 2020, 17:57 # Show original
@loving_w:however, apparently holds)
darrr
darrr
03 Dec 2020, 00:38 # Show original
In Las Vegas, Lucifer tipped the bartender an armful of bucks (when his future wife pulled out her wallet). Money means nothing to higher beings.

What, surely Amenadiel is also throwing a pack or two.
He drove a Bentley (which was blown up by Maze).
sssaarah
sssaarah
PRO
15 Oct 2020, 19:09 # Show original
I liked the flashbacks with Pierce. Still, it was interesting to see, since Pierce likes me (even if he uses Chloe)
Dolorous
Dolorous
08 Jan 2021, 22:23 # Show original
it is interesting to observe Lucifer's "insights". This time, he realized that Chloe would figure out who to date on her own.. although he didn't run away at home, she offered him coffee and all that, well, it's clear that she wouldn't sleep with him right there, but every time he starts behaving like a person after his quirks, she also goes to meet him, and he runs away, but the opposite is necessary)) grief onion))
I'm worried about Maze
and Charlotte.. She'll probably go completely crazy (if she believes amenedil)
yourpreacher
yourpreacher
09 Jan 2021, 02:59 # Show original
@Dolorous: Charlotte strong
Relict
Relict
15 Feb 2021, 20:20 # Show original
You see Pelant for a couple of seconds, you suspect Pelant, and then Pelant turns out to be the serial killer. Thanks, Bones, for the spoiler, I love you. Of course, I am so attentive that I did not understand how he found victims, if it was revealed. When the topic of the show came up and that the killer should work on the radio, I forgot that I had ever seen Pelant. In general, I have this with most of the detective component of this series, it does not insert. Therefore, if there are any connections, I lose them. Well, they opened it and well done.
It was so nice to see Pierce back in the role of a lieutenant, and not in the role of a sad suicide. Pierce is charming and what the plot has done to him is a crime. How can you choose between this amazing man, whom he appears in front of Chloe, and Lucifer (call for coffee-get rejected-make a date with Pierce) Lucifer? Everyone has their own (very specific) tastes, but she herself told Pierce about the attitude she would like.
Not only did the plot mock Pierce, but also Maze. Hopefully, she'll get over her crisis over time, but at the moment she's infuriating.
So it turns out that the characters gradually disappoint, but there are one or two for which you want to keep watching. It used to be Maze and Dan, now it's Pierce. And that's as long as he's a lieutenant, not Cain. And judging by the cast, he has six episodes left.
Dana_ptr
Dana_ptr
30 Mar 2021, 01:40 # Show original
Oh, Cain, you fucking son of a bitch, what are you up to 😏😏😏
In general, I'm still waiting for a trick from him, I'm still not comforted by such a stingy plot with a Sinner, without answers and a story...
no wonder Aminadiel says that Cain got his mark for a reason. Even though Abel turned out to be a simpleton, this whole backstory of the brothers is kind of murky.
I'm waiting for something big
id264460076
id264460076
30 Mar 2021, 09:59 # Show original
@Dana_ptr: yes, of course, that's not for nothing, but because he killed his brother
the_stitch_kern
the_stitch_kern
03 May 2021, 16:48 # Show original
It's a shame for Trixie
id18379359
id18379359
20 Jun 2021, 17:29 # Show original
As soon as I saw the actor that Pelanta played, I immediately realized who would be the killer! They couldn't just shove someone like him casually
Karnavskaya_
Karnavskaya_
31 Jan 2022, 04:17 # Show original
How I want to strangle Cain, it's a pity, it won't help
Lihiominaa
Lihiominaa
08 May 2022, 22:29 # Show original
Oh, I've been waiting for this shake-up for Lucifer for a long time. But the trouble is that he always draws the wrong conclusions. Even if you think that's it, that's it! He's blunted again! I sometimes marvel at Linda's iron patience. It's necessary how many times he turned everything inside out like that.

Oh, yes. Amenadil becomes a truly infuriating Persian.

And Maze of course.. yeah.
MrsChimodanova
MrsChimodanova
08 May 2023, 22:08 # Show original
Poor Trixie! I was hoping that they would at least cuddle with Lucifer or with Chloe, but they didn't even show her to us (It turns out that Maze, her friend, offended her so much, and they won't even show us how the baby is comforted? A nightmare! Not enough Trixies this season!
valdislava
valdislava
09 Feb 14:00 # Show original
Maze is very fu, very annoying
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