@id64850841: firstly, not Netflix, but TNT, secondly, the series was in development for 3 years. Thirdly, a film was released in 2013, which, fourthly, was based on a French graphic novel.
Well, they didn't stupidly make a remake of the film. This is excellent. Another detective investigating a crime is a little beaten up (Asimov also used this plot device in Steel Caves), but it will go. And very quickly they sawed off the Salamanca, it's a pity.
A cheerful start! I liked that it's not a copy of the film, but its own story, the more interesting it will be to find out where the plot will lead. We were pleased with Grandfather Ivan (Salamanca from BB and VS) and Marta from the Americans, as if they saw old friends.
@Xpio: I think half of the cars, if not more, are not residential, but for various needs, growing the same strawberries, fish, etc. + the most wealthy and influential people got on the train, as you can see, the detective himself could not even knock out class 3 tickets. there are selebs, owners of large corporations, in general, billionaires. all this is just my guesses and imho , although now I think how stupid it is on the part of the "creators" of the train not to take care of the selection of candidates of all professions necessary for existence.
@Xpio: the cops were just there, that hostage-taker was a prostitute, but there were no homicide detectives, which does not surprise me, because even if you reject the theory that most of the wagons are household, the main passengers were rich anyway, and not ordinary workers + staff and security. A detective, and specifically for murders, is a rare beast.
Agree. There are too many questions for a non-viewer of the film. Why there are no adequate doctors/criminologists, police officers, etc. That is, the main system of the economy should be. And I have another question: how are the paths maintained? They didn't seem to talk about it. That is, there is -100 something, the train runs once a year (?) on rails and they have been quietly withstanding everything for 6 years? How many years are they even designed for? Very strange
Very good. The plot is different from the film, the story with the corpse is interesting - clearly someone from the rich is frolicking, For some reason I immediately thought that the "Voice of the train" is its head. Almost no one knows about the campaign there. And the riot was dynamic. A good pilot definitely!
I am not familiar with the film, and in general I do not particularly like this topic with rich people and losers, but the plot is interesting, I will definitely look further. Connelly is as good as ever
Judging by the "super secret" that was revealed to the viewer in the first episode, during the season we will be told how Connelly became Mr. Wilford and how many there were before her.
@Superintendent: Because the government corrupts and for the stability of society, changeability is necessary. Well, this is, of course, if the initial orientation was towards utopia, and not as usual.)
It's not even funny anymore that the rebels are again some kind of fabulous level of idiots. Wow! We'll grab everything here, kill half of it on the way! Wow! And I don't care that we don't understand anything about the structure of the train and its really complex structure and how difficult it is to contain all this in general. Wow! We'll build ourselves digging sticks and break everything to hell here, and then we'll figure it out. Great plan. Reliable as a Swiss watch. I can just imagine how these savages break free and fuck up the entire fragile ecosystem of the train, killing a third of the passengers along the way (who also have families here, as one of the rebels cried) and devouring everything they get to. And then they sadly die together with the rest, because for SOME reason everything has stopped working, bearing fruit and in general. Ramin.
And it seems to be clear that keeping people in a pen is a shitty and immoral practice (although they are uninvited passengers and broke into the train by force, but okay, let's put it down, they saved their lives there in a panic (as, indeed, the passengers of the train)), and the BUND had to be arranged sooner or later, but what well, why does it not work out from the word at all to sympathize with the oppressed? Rather, you empathize with those who honestly bought a ticket. Strange. Are the main oppressed heroes supposed to evoke empathy? So far, the impression is as if unfamiliar dudes burst into my house and said, "we're going to live here now. On the same rights as you. Because because. WE ARE PEOPLE AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT." And in such a situation, we can only thank the owners for feeding, watering, and so on. In general, everything is kind of muddy. If the series continues like this, then it will be a disappointment in the inability of the director and screenwriter to stage scenes so that the unfortunate-oppressed-ragamuffins would like to somehow sympathize.
And this race at the end is about the fact that "we need you at the beginning of the train." God, he's an unstable soul. Look at his face. Look at your face. You don't understand a damn thing about how it all works. So stupid, haspod... When you want to become the head of a centaur, but in fact you are the ass of a horse.
@AndreRowell: Even if these rednecks come to power, everything will remain the same or it will get worse. There is always a flock and shepherds, the world rests on this and nothing will change.
@AndreRowell: about "we need you at the beginning of the train" - the detective said this to remove tension, to level the situation. So that the guards don't break in and kill everyone who is still alive from the shanks.
@AndreRowell: About the first paragraph. There is nothing surprising here. There are decent people in the last cars, but most of them are not academicians of sciences, and in 6 years they have already gone wild there, what else can you expect from them? In 2 months, people have given up self-isolation. And how many cattle do not believe in coronavirus at all, they do not want to wear masks, they talk shit about chipping and blame 5G towers for the spread of coronavirus. So compare it. Will most of the passengers of the last carriages think about how to operate the train and how to maintain it? By the way, this topic is just revealed in the film.
I agree with the second paragraph. I would like to have more sympathy for the characters somehow. So far, I have more sympathy for "Mr." Wilford.
@AndreRowell: The main question here is: do they have a choice? They already have a banal lack of food, they are forbidden to produce children. In fact, apart from the riot, there are no options. Yes, through meat, blood, sweat and guts, but either that, or continue to starve and die. The option to die, but trying to change something is not the worst in the realities of these people. Well, in such conditions, they really should not care about the device of the train, so it's not surprising.
I don't understand where empathy for those who bought a ticket can come from? There are just rich people there, it's not even the fact that they are useful within the framework of the train, they just managed to earn money before the apocalypse. What right does this give them to hold other people as slaves? Where is there at least something human in this? The really useful ones are busy with work, but within the framework of the train they are just the middle class.
Actually, that's what the series is about. Instead of being human and helping those who got on the train, trying to survive, the top is behaving like the last scum. Our current realities are squeezed into the framework of the train.
@Khanberbatch: After reading the above comments, I was horrified.. People, hello! Wake up! What kind of empathy can we talk about for those who bought tickets? You see, they can't agree on a schedule at the spa.. And other people have nothing to eat.. What is of great value on the scale measure? A comfortable life or basically a life?! Our society is still facing such questions. But according to the logic of the above commentators, people who will not be able to buy a ticket for this train should die or something...or turn into slaves? Therefore, I fully agree with Khanberbatch's comment..
I didn't watch the movie, but the series started well, although, of course, there was not much intrigue)) the series is over and it's not interesting who the killer is, or who was killed, or what will happen to the guys from the last car next. Perhaps only the main character and her storyline are interesting. Somehow, in the end, I realized that "not bad" is a very high rating))) Well, let's see what's next. Maybe it's worth watching a movie?
@vimazu: they have the same timeline. The events of the series unfold seven years after the onset of the ice age and eight years before what happened in the film.
Oh, those detective lines again. The killer is the butler, let's have more fiction. Smoke was clearly coming from the submarine in the ice. Did anyone survive outside the train?
@Zy4: He drives in a circle, I mean, on the same route, there is no intrigue in this. This is stated at the very beginning of the series. The word revolution there means circular rotation. Around and around the Earth we circle. We can never stop. These are revolutions, 1001 cars long. Of course, there is a pun here, but there is no intrigue where the train is going.
@cat_pavel: There's a nuclear reactor in the submarine, that's the smoke. It's not a fact that there is someone alive there, but yes, it's strange that it was shown.
Connelly is a beauty. But gg doesn't catch on at all, Chris Evans was much better. I don't know yet how to react to the detective line. It is clear that this is an occasion to show all the wagons and develop a plan. I wonder if there will be tension like in "Escape"? I really hope that the season will not be smeared with all sorts of flashbacks before the train, as it often happens. The first episode looks too crumpled, the tail was given very little time. So far, everything is weaker than the film, but it is curious enough to look further.
I haven't watched the movie (but judging by the good comments, it's worth it). I liked the first episode. I really hope that they will show the train device more - it was very interesting to consider the garden-carriage and the carriage-sea (I don't know what else to call it). It was intuitively felt that there was no real Mr. Wilford. I'm looking at the characters, Connelly's character is impressive, and the actress plays great!
The pilot and it is already clear that there is no serious searchlight: The crude script is poorly developed characters, for example, an African-American with dreadlocks with the principles of pacifism (a certain Bob Marley) who is a former police detective, is very unlikely, the storyline itself is very illogical a group of people sneaks into a rabbit under a shootout in one carriage, on this train they are considered marginals who are treated bestially starved, kept isolated and they cannot give rights under the pretext that this will destroy the existing eco-train system, but for some reason no one exterminates them. Filming was very much saved on camera work, but at some points it feels like shooting two thousandth years 5/10
Oh, I feel that throughout the series (if I don't drop it) I will burn from the stupidity and inadequacy of the characters. For example, "revolutionists" are morons who shout "We want to reproduce!" Why?! Why do you want to reproduce in such a world and such conditions? I was also very pleased with the suspect, the ex-girlfriend. She says I wanted to die like all the cool guys, but you made me live! Well, fuck it now, that's the villain! Jump off the train to hell then, since you don't like it here so much.
When does this woman sleep? She resolves conflicts on the train, moves from the beginning to the tail and back, issues alerts to passengers, along the way manages to have a chat with them, visit a friend, and then goes to control the train. Is it made of iron?
@Esentsiya: there, apparently, some kind of high-speed monorail is used between the cars on the minus ground floor, which was shown to us when delivering the detective to the third class. But the efficiency, of course, is off the scale.
It turned out very well and interestingly, intrigued. I hope for more disclosure of the train and its carriages, of course, this was shown in the film, but the series gives more scope in this.
A great series. From the whole stream, this is interesting. We were really surprised. The main thing is that they don't make nonsense for the second and third series.
The trailer was promising. I watched the movie the day before, I liked it on the whole, although there are some nuances. The first series turned out to be mediocre, somehow crumpled, but there is a lot to grow, I hope it will be more interesting further. P.S. I assume that the search for the killer is just an excuse, but not the main plot-forming line.
A normal series. But so far it is not possible to empathize with the tail. They were really shown as unbalanced savages who "EAT TO DESTROY THE FUCKER." And Connelly doesn't look like a villain yet. He explains quite clearly how everything is perfectly arranged and all this still needs to be maintained (6 years, and everything works like clockwork - commendable).
what is the meaning of generally leave tail was alive at all? and where are the soldiers constantly if the series has already said about last rebellion, and for 6 years was definitely more or is this ecosystem so that they kill each other one detective on the whole train? specifically a caricature of rich men in colorful outfits look funny in General, all terms of idiots and some with no empathy I do not want
@PCE_INOY: well, as we can see, "Mr. Wilfred" is not a complete bastard, so maybe that's why the tailers were left alive. Or maybe just for such a situation, when it will be necessary to get a new service staff from somewhere. I agree, so far the most pleasant character is Connelly's heroine.
I began to suspect that Mr. Wilfred did not exist, somewhere in the middle of the series)
Judging by the smoke from the submarine, there are still survivors in the world. Probably a very early start for the second season.
I didn't think about it when watching the movie, but: why not build a smaller looped track for the constant passage of the train in a circle? So that it all goes on a flat, good terrain and so that the cycle of the route is, for example, one day. This would remove the dangers associated with the changing landscape in the mountains, etc. Of course, the upper class would be bored to look at the same landscape, but safety is above all. Theoretically, it would even be possible to leave repair crews on the tracks and pick them up after the repairs were completed (well, while the temperature still allowed).
It's too bad that the series is a prequel to the film, because now we know that whatever it was, by the time of the film, nothing will change for the better on the train. Well, unless the upper and lower classes switch places. But this is unlikely, it would have been mentioned in the film.
I wish someone based on Hugh Howie's "Bunker" would make a TV series.
I join the opinions above about the fact that at the moment only Connelly's character is of interest, as well as about the last wagon with savages who "EAT TO DESTROY the FUCKER." I didn't watch the movie, but there were questions about the series: - Energy. And why are they moving at all? And not just moving, but fast, constantly for 6+ years, pulling 1001 wagons? Where do they get so much energy from in the "self-isolation mode"? Not to mention domestic consumption. - Food. It also raises big questions. It was said that a little more than a hundred wagons with "hydroponics", i.e. one wagon with plants for about nine others, including cattle, which also need to be fed. - There are still a lot of smaller questions (for example, about a still working smartphone), but for now I would like to deal with these.
@pptzar: 6 years on the road, the train has never broken down. It probably consists of nanites and they are restoring it, as well as the roadways themselves...
@pptzar: This is a series about social injustice in the first place, such as the Joker, Platforms, Parasites. And the train is just for an unusual background to attract the viewer, and so yes, from the point of view of our reality, it is absolutely not realistic
Well, yes, it's like in the TV series "society" There are also a lot of questions about how this or that works, but nobody seems to care because the series is about social problems
I haven't watched the movie. Perhaps this is why I saw episode 1 as wild game, which is relatively watchable only through the facepalm slits between my fingers. It is clear that it was much easier to reveal the idea in the comic, because our imagination is able to create and finish even the most incredible ideas, so it is necessary to give the series a break. But even so, I rate the first episode 1 out of 10. Because the plot and its execution turned out to be some kind of plastic and primitive, and the characters are pop-inspired. It doesn't taste good yet. Let's see what happens next.
It seems clear that they want to show us an unfair hierarchical world where there are rich oppressors and oppressed shanks. But the guys from the tail did not arouse sympathy at all. The detective is forcibly taken away, and they shout that he is now a traitor, he is no longer with them! What? The most important redneck goes around bullying everyone and demanding some kind of loyalty. To what? To whom? Well, the main thing that killed me is that they demand reproductive rights. Seriously? No, seriously, are you going to raise kids in this shit? At the same time, as I understand it, they have some tiny chance to break out into people and leave the tail, but this is not very natural for them. Well, I have some questions for Mr. Wilford. So you hired a security service, but there is no one in it who would have a detective background? Hand-face, hand-face...
Well, so... detective? for a hundred thousand episodes? Well, this ... the main character does not pull at all, he did not cause any emotions. The only interesting twist from Coneli.
It turns out that we have completely moved away from the idea of the film. There they all fought their way from car to car for an hour and a half, and then they stopped at the first one and zeroed out.
@Chile: You forget that in the film by Pon Joon Hooni, "The Great Curtis Revolution" takes place 17 years after the train left. Before this breakthrough into the first carriage, according to the plot, there were at least two more serious protest events, which are designated as the "Riot of the Seven" and the "McGregor Mutiny". And in the series, the train has only been on the road for 7 years and, perhaps, this is the first attempt at a riot in all that time.
It seems that the limited area of the wagons will be cinematically expanded to the territory of the plant. What are these funiculars in the basement? What kind of basements are these?
And I liked most of all how these shanks wailed that they were hungry and their children were starving. And then you look at these well-fed and well-groomed muzzles with white teeth and realize that the authors did not bother with small details at all)
In fact, the film had a so-so plot and idea. That's why I didn't expect much from the series. I really didn't know that this was a prequel, because of this, it's not clear why the series is at all. In the film, they lived in the same conditions.
Did the show feature a young Chris Evans? After all, after 11 years, as I understand it, gg will be from the film.
About the desire to reproduce. As a society, these shanks have a problem, because they are dying out. That's the whole point. Of course, there are some of them who just want a child. But everything is subjective here. In wartime, children were also born, although the times were still those.
Well, apparently there is an opportunity to somehow move into better cars. It sounds even better than fair. After all, they broke into someone else's property. I don't understand why they are demanding something.
The rich are ordinary. Not caricatured. If someone has enough money for a ticket, it does not mean that this person is good or bad. They just didn't show the best part.
In the film, the intrigue with the main one was revealed only towards the end, as far as I remember. Therefore, it was possible to perceive him as a kind of villain. But here it's Coneli, and in this episode she was very cool. He does 100 things, monitors everything, handles everything. At the same time, she has not yet staged some kind of totalitarianism with the genocide of the shanks.
An interesting idea, we started well, I hope they will logically reveal all the details of the train's life. At the moment, it is not clear what is wrong with the rails, there must be some kind of maintenance, or technology that allows the train to move along them.
It totally sucks. It's strange that visually it looks like a 1 in 1 movie, but it's clear that the budget was not enough and everything looks old-fashioned and toylike, from costumes to the plot)) A ridiculous twist with a murder investigation... In general, everything is ridiculous. Most of the actors are like from a 00x sitcom. Two blondes, one whose hand was chipping off, the second who is also a cop, just like from My beautiful babysitter x) both visually and by the skill of the "game". It's not clear what kind of wind brought Jennifer Connelly here, it seems like she hasn't been playing so much lately... I thought I'd look at it for her sake, but no. Alas.
By the way, I really like the film, I've watched it several times, it's intense and spectacular, and here - pf...
For some reason, the moment in the restaurant car was very touching. Layton looked like that...the actor played well. Oh, this bread, I even wanted toast. Well, in general, the food here is very beautifully shown)
A red-haired dude who watches people in symbiosis is some kind of creep.
@Liza: and in my opinion, he just played so-so. It was like I came to grandma for pancakes, and not more or less normal food for the first time in 6 years
I do not consider the original film to be a benchmark, but still, compared to it, it is still a rather nondescript beginning, as for me. The main character is far from detective in type and feelings, the multicultural mix of the train tail salad is like a stereotypical cranberry, and not those who want to empathize. So far, Connelly has only an interesting line. Let's see what happens next!
@Oleg_Donetsk: outside the window -140 degrees, the movement of the train provides electricity, heat and so on. It moves, as I understand it, on a perpetual motion machine
for such a chamber series, where all the actions take place in cramped rooms, and the space is limited by the size of the car, the main character is very difficult for me to perceive, and literally - huge dreadlocks, a beard, he takes up so much space on the tap, especially in dialogues. it's already hard to breathe)
@SergFischer: but purely out of interest, which of all these unpleasant people would you like to associate yourself with if they were suitable for you by gender and race?
Of all the unpleasant and gray characters in the series (and there are no others in it), I would like to associate myself with that Russian grandfather who hanged himself. It's better that way than watching this massively consumer trash, shot on the basis of a long-realized idea, without imagination and special zest, which fucked up everything old in favor of modern trends. Even some "soap" of the nineties left a mark on history, and this thing was created to kill the time of boring girls in pink socks like you, and will be forgotten immediately after the series closes.
@SergFischer: I'm all over you, I wish you that your hard life got better, and there was no need to go online to rush at people and insult for no reason.
@SergFischer: you understand that I can at least write the alphabet, you will find something to look forward to there. Well, you've had a shit, you're welcome, maybe it'll feel better.
@id_evergreen: That's right. At first, some behave like freaks, not taking into account the interests of the part watching their creation. Then others try on the "skin" of freaks and think it's the right thing to do. First the dictate of some moral freaks, then the dictate of other moral freaks. And everyone thinks they're right.
@ViewerOne: but this is not a dictate. That's the point - whether it's a woman or a man, it's a person. Women may not have been able to enter the character by 146%, but they could imagine themselves in the character's place. The intellectual abilities of men should not be inferior, so what's the problem? What is the problem with imagining yourself in the place of any of the female characters? What is the problem with imagining yourself in the place of a black character (there are no specific aspects in the series at all, the context is the same for all races)?
@id_evergreen: In the series, which is not a unique creation, all the key white men from the original were replaced by women and black men. This is not an accident. This is a summons. That's what I said in my first message. If the audience likes to be brainwashed by TV series and other media products, they watch, rejoice, and give positive ratings. I set one and stopped watching after the first episode. I have the right.
Wagons do not obey the laws of physics. Although the tail is suspiciously similar to the common wagons in India, I speak from the perspective of experience
After watching the first episode, it becomes clear that only the title is common with the film. It was possible to shoot two episodes..It's boring..There is no intrigue at all. The actors' acting and filming are not interesting.
the scene at the end is the epitome of that "this is the future liberals want" meme, where all the women are in latex and with whips. the genius of human thought wears uncomfortable clothes and heels and forces others to do the same, because the power is to obey and serve other people's wishes, gray cardinalism is our everything, girls 🤡🤡🤡
SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE EPISODE, ONE OF THE MAIN PERSIANS (A WOMAN) HE SAYS THAT THE MAIN CLASS (THE RICH) THEY STERILIZE WOMEN WHO ARE ON THE TAIL. AND HE SAYS "THAT IN THE LAST 5 YEARS, THERE HAS NOT BEEN A SINGLE CHILD" I WONDER WHAT THE FUCK TO GIVE BIRTH AND REPRODUCE IN SUCH CONDITIONS? IS THERE SOMETHING I DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS? FUCK HER KIDS WHEN THEY CAN BARELY FIND FOOD?🤦🏿♂️ THE SEATS IN THE CARRIAGE ARE NOT RUBBER AND THE FACT THAT THEY WILL MULTIPLY WILL NOT MAKE IT BETTER. PZDC. In the beginning, in order to show us visually how it all started, we decided to tell what's what in the form of a cartoon and a voice on the background - A BIG FAT MINUS BECAUSE OF THIS.
Oh, Trevor Phillips!) And as always in the role of a pathetic asshole) But in general there is nothing to say yet, I will try the second series. It seems like we tried, but it doesn't catch
What wild, even the wildest nonsense already from the preface. It would be better not to tell anything, he goes on and on. But it doesn't get any better. Is this train a perpetual motion machine? Who maintains the rails? And yes, the world is frozen, there are no resources, but the dining car and sauna are their main problems and an urgent need. Well, at least a little logic is possible? But the picture is beautiful, the rich are so clean, they are still rich, and they probably bought tickets. Against the background of a worldwide CATASTROPHE. This is the bottom
Серия очень понравилась. Снято красиво, синематографично, актеры симпатичные. Включили мою любимую сцену из комикса про повесившего старика, что сразу плюс. Ну и да, момент с поеданием супа с хлебом понравился, сыграно было хорошо.
@kawaiidon: Because a person does not always find himself in a low-class position of his own free will. Everyone is used to the fact that you can come to a rich life by your own work, but the reality is much more complicated.
This whole topic with the train is nonsense on nonsense and drives delirium ... If you close your eyes to the details like "who is servicing the road if the train does not stop", the Aquarium on the train and so on, the storyline is interesting. But he is constantly haunted by the thought "what? ..." It is not thoughtful and unrealistic.
@KateRoseS: "unrealistic" There is such a thing as suspension of disbelief. A must-have piece for viewing any work of art, let alone a fantastic one. Or will you be in a series about elves or superheroes: "It doesn't happen like that, it's unreal!"
How I liked the beginning! The series looked in one go. You immediately get into the characters, even goosebumps come from the horrors they go through. I really like the topic of class inequality. I finally found the very series about the future for myself. He just hopes that he doesn't slide into the cesspool. I definitely advise everyone to start watching!
I must admit, I was very intrigued by the first episode! I didn't have high hopes, because I was used to not building expectations so as not to be disappointed. But here I was waiting not only for an interesting idea of dystopia, but also, it seems, a detective story! Class inequality, closed space... It should be good.
I love the movie, but I was wary of the series because they often turn decent film adaptations into soap in the pursuit of money. But I decided to try to turn on the series. What should I do? The first episode is pretty good. In general, I usually do not dig into the genre of fiction. I'm ready to turn a blind eye to shoals, so I'm not really picking on them yet. And I perfectly understand the heroes, who no longer care how to die, as long as they don't die like starving rats because of power and wealth, so they desperately try to do something before they die. I probably would have done the same thing.
I personally like the story of the investigation, I love detective stories. And here's the ending... I'd like to find out who's in charge of the train later, with more intrigue... but okay, so far the four, let's go further)
No. No, I can't fucking watch this. I tried. I took out the 2.5 series and I can't do it anymore.... The more you look, the more stupid this nonsense seems.
Well, fuck it. The planet is frozen. Minus 100. This is where logic and common sense end. Next, only stupid illogical shit like a train with 1001 cars, running for 7 years. Drugs. Wagons — districts: night, Chinese and all in this spirit.
And fuck, you're just watching and there's an irresistible and frantic stream of questions. And the most important thing is: where the fuck do they get it all? Reagents for drugs. Bullets. Food. Clothes. WATER!!!!! How can a train with one locomotive pull 1001 wagons? Where do the batteries in the flashlights come from? Pasta in the handles? Flour??? Where the fuck are flour noodles from? Bitch, where the fuck do you get all this on the train?
The whole shoot boils down to a dumb detective on pussy in narrow corridors. What the fuck is this last carriage with homeless people? Why not unhook it at all?
@DoggNight: This is a condition in the world that the comic book author came up with. The post-apocalypse, the train and the community divided into classes. You either accept such a condition with some reservations, or you ask yourself a bunch of questions, which is why the whole world is falling apart at the seams almost immediately. Suspension of disbelief.
@afunix: They said at the beginning that the earth was very deeply frozen. Apparently they decided to go because the moving train does not have time to freeze. But there is a lot of fiction here, so you don't have to look for much logic. Bunker is a musthave, and then we decided to go the original way. We are now waiting for a survival with an airplane powered by solar energy and forever hovering in the clouds.
Something somehow didn't catch on at all. Especially the main character. I really liked Connelly's character. I think I'll keep watching just because of her. And stuffing black characters into every movie and TV series is already kind of boring.)) I understand equality and all that, but God, if you think about it, then this is how they oppress the white race, taking the place of white, black actors in the series.)) Somehow it's very unpleasant to watch because This one.
The pilot is not bad, the timing of the series format allows you to show the author's idea more deeply. The graphic novel itself is very atmospheric and the film turned out great, the actors are certainly stronger there, except that only Connelly is good here, but I hope the rest will open up.
I started watching the series after the series "The Secret Diary of a Call Girl" because of actor Iddo Goldberg. So in the call diaries, his character's name is Ben. And when Connelly says at the end of the episode: Thank you Ben. My brain automatically completed that Ben was offended at everyone and went to work on this train, which turned out very nicely.
Jennifer is a beauty🤩
And very quickly they sawed off the Salamanca, it's a pity.
We were pleased with Grandfather Ivan (Salamanca from BB and VS) and Marta from the Americans, as if they saw old friends.
strictly speaking, the tall moustache Stephen Ogg is also from BCS, he was in two series
, although now I think how stupid it is on the part of the "creators" of the train not to take care of the selection of candidates of all professions necessary for existence.
Well, this is, of course, if the initial orientation was towards utopia, and not as usual.)
I can just imagine how these savages break free and fuck up the entire fragile ecosystem of the train, killing a third of the passengers along the way (who also have families here, as one of the rebels cried) and devouring everything they get to. And then they sadly die together with the rest, because for SOME reason everything has stopped working, bearing fruit and in general. Ramin.
And it seems to be clear that keeping people in a pen is a shitty and immoral practice (although they are uninvited passengers and broke into the train by force, but okay, let's put it down, they saved their lives there in a panic (as, indeed, the passengers of the train)), and the BUND had to be arranged sooner or later, but what well, why does it not work out from the word at all to sympathize with the oppressed? Rather, you empathize with those who honestly bought a ticket. Strange. Are the main oppressed heroes supposed to evoke empathy? So far, the impression is as if unfamiliar dudes burst into my house and said, "we're going to live here now. On the same rights as you. Because because. WE ARE PEOPLE AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT." And in such a situation, we can only thank the owners for feeding, watering, and so on. In general, everything is kind of muddy. If the series continues like this, then it will be a disappointment in the inability of the director and screenwriter to stage scenes so that the unfortunate-oppressed-ragamuffins would like to somehow sympathize.
By the way, this topic is just revealed in the film.
I agree with the second paragraph. I would like to have more sympathy for the characters somehow. So far, I have more sympathy for "Mr." Wilford.
I don't understand where empathy for those who bought a ticket can come from? There are just rich people there, it's not even the fact that they are useful within the framework of the train, they just managed to earn money before the apocalypse. What right does this give them to hold other people as slaves? Where is there at least something human in this? The really useful ones are busy with work, but within the framework of the train they are just the middle class.
Actually, that's what the series is about. Instead of being human and helping those who got on the train, trying to survive, the top is behaving like the last scum. Our current realities are squeezed into the framework of the train.
Therefore, I fully agree with Khanberbatch's comment..
Smoke was clearly coming from the submarine in the ice. Did anyone survive outside the train?
It was intuitively felt that there was no real Mr. Wilford. I'm looking at the characters, Connelly's character is impressive, and the actress plays great!
The crude script is poorly developed characters, for example, an African-American with dreadlocks with the principles of pacifism (a certain Bob Marley) who is a former police detective, is very unlikely, the storyline itself is very illogical a group of people sneaks into a rabbit under a shootout in one carriage, on this train they are considered marginals who are treated bestially starved, kept isolated and they cannot give rights under the pretext that this will destroy the existing eco-train system, but for some reason no one exterminates them.
Filming was very much saved on camera work, but at some points it feels like shooting two thousandth years
5/10
Perhaps there are still some shifts.
The first series turned out to be mediocre, somehow crumpled, but there is a lot to grow, I hope it will be more interesting further.
P.S. I assume that the search for the killer is just an excuse, but not the main plot-forming line.
and where are the soldiers constantly if the series has already said about last rebellion, and for 6 years was definitely more
or is this ecosystem so that they kill each other
one detective on the whole train?
specifically a caricature of rich men in colorful outfits look funny
in General, all terms of idiots and some with no empathy I do not want
I agree, so far the most pleasant character is Connelly's heroine.
Judging by the smoke from the submarine, there are still survivors in the world. Probably a very early start for the second season.
I didn't think about it when watching the movie, but: why not build a smaller looped track for the constant passage of the train in a circle? So that it all goes on a flat, good terrain and so that the cycle of the route is, for example, one day. This would remove the dangers associated with the changing landscape in the mountains, etc. Of course, the upper class would be bored to look at the same landscape, but safety is above all. Theoretically, it would even be possible to leave repair crews on the tracks and pick them up after the repairs were completed (well, while the temperature still allowed).
It's too bad that the series is a prequel to the film, because now we know that whatever it was, by the time of the film, nothing will change for the better on the train. Well, unless the upper and lower classes switch places. But this is unlikely, it would have been mentioned in the film.
I wish someone based on Hugh Howie's "Bunker" would make a TV series.
My question is, why are they even going somewhere by train?
I didn't watch the movie, but there were questions about the series:
- Energy. And why are they moving at all? And not just moving, but fast, constantly for 6+ years, pulling 1001 wagons? Where do they get so much energy from in the "self-isolation mode"? Not to mention domestic consumption.
- Food. It also raises big questions. It was said that a little more than a hundred wagons with "hydroponics", i.e. one wagon with plants for about nine others, including cattle, which also need to be fed.
- There are still a lot of smaller questions (for example, about a still working smartphone), but for now I would like to deal with these.
Thank you for supporting the topic about important questions.
It's better this way: seven pies and one candle! (c) Carlson
My point is that in such a scenario with renewable food, they will not succeed, just like Frekken Bok, "get into this little box." (c) He is the same
detective? for a hundred thousand episodes? Well, this ...
the main character does not pull at all, he did not cause any emotions.
The only interesting twist from Coneli.
the twist of this comment is better than the twist in the series itself
I really didn't know that this was a prequel, because of this, it's not clear why the series is at all. In the film, they lived in the same conditions.
Did the show feature a young Chris Evans? After all, after 11 years, as I understand it, gg will be from the film.
About the desire to reproduce. As a society, these shanks have a problem, because they are dying out. That's the whole point. Of course, there are some of them who just want a child. But everything is subjective here. In wartime, children were also born, although the times were still those.
Well, apparently there is an opportunity to somehow move into better cars. It sounds even better than fair. After all, they broke into someone else's property. I don't understand why they are demanding something.
The rich are ordinary. Not caricatured. If someone has enough money for a ticket, it does not mean that this person is good or bad. They just didn't show the best part.
In the film, the intrigue with the main one was revealed only towards the end, as far as I remember. Therefore, it was possible to perceive him as a kind of villain. But here it's Coneli, and in this episode she was very cool. He does 100 things, monitors everything, handles everything. At the same time, she has not yet staged some kind of totalitarianism with the genocide of the shanks.
Dubbing Enjoy watching
A ridiculous twist with a murder investigation... In general, everything is ridiculous. Most of the actors are like from a 00x sitcom. Two blondes, one whose hand was chipping off, the second who is also a cop, just like from My beautiful babysitter x) both visually and by the skill of the "game".
It's not clear what kind of wind brought Jennifer Connelly here, it seems like she hasn't been playing so much lately... I thought I'd look at it for her sake, but no. Alas.
By the way, I really like the film, I've watched it several times, it's intense and spectacular, and here - pf...
A red-haired dude who watches people in symbiosis is some kind of creep.
The main character is far from detective in type and feelings, the multicultural mix of the train tail salad is like a stereotypical cranberry, and not those who want to empathize. So far, Connelly has only an interesting line. Let's see what happens next!
It moves, as I understand it, on a perpetual motion machine
Sting's daughter is not like that)
I WONDER WHAT THE FUCK TO GIVE BIRTH AND REPRODUCE IN SUCH CONDITIONS? IS THERE SOMETHING I DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS? FUCK HER KIDS WHEN THEY CAN BARELY FIND FOOD?🤦🏿♂️
THE SEATS IN THE CARRIAGE ARE NOT RUBBER AND THE FACT THAT THEY WILL MULTIPLY WILL NOT MAKE IT BETTER. PZDC.
In the beginning, in order to show us visually how it all started, we decided to tell what's what in the form of a cartoon and a voice on the background - A BIG FAT MINUS BECAUSE OF THIS.
But in general there is nothing to say yet, I will try the second series. It seems like we tried, but it doesn't catch
Включили мою любимую сцену из комикса про повесившего старика, что сразу плюс.
Ну и да, момент с поеданием супа с хлебом понравился, сыграно было хорошо.
If you close your eyes to the details like "who is servicing the road if the train does not stop", the Aquarium on the train and so on, the storyline is interesting.
But he is constantly haunted by the thought "what? ..."
It is not thoughtful and unrealistic.
There is such a thing as suspension of disbelief. A must-have piece for viewing any work of art, let alone a fantastic one. Or will you be in a series about elves or superheroes: "It doesn't happen like that, it's unreal!"
I didn't have high hopes, because I was used to not building expectations so as not to be disappointed.
But here I was waiting not only for an interesting idea of dystopia, but also, it seems, a detective story!
Class inequality, closed space... It should be good.
What should I do?
The first episode is pretty good. In general, I usually do not dig into the genre of fiction. I'm ready to turn a blind eye to shoals, so I'm not really picking on them yet. And I perfectly understand the heroes, who no longer care how to die, as long as they don't die like starving rats because of power and wealth, so they desperately try to do something before they die. I probably would have done the same thing.
I personally like the story of the investigation, I love detective stories.
And here's the ending... I'd like to find out who's in charge of the train later, with more intrigue... but okay, so far the four, let's go further)
Well, fuck it. The planet is frozen. Minus 100. This is where logic and common sense end. Next, only stupid illogical shit like a train with 1001 cars, running for 7 years. Drugs. Wagons — districts: night, Chinese and all in this spirit.
And fuck, you're just watching and there's an irresistible and frantic stream of questions. And the most important thing is: where the fuck do they get it all? Reagents for drugs. Bullets. Food. Clothes. WATER!!!!! How can a train with one locomotive pull 1001 wagons? Where do the batteries in the flashlights come from? Pasta in the handles? Flour??? Where the fuck are flour noodles from? Bitch, where the fuck do you get all this on the train?
The whole shoot boils down to a dumb detective on pussy in narrow corridors. What the fuck is this last carriage with homeless people? Why not unhook it at all?
Fuck yeah. What the fuck is a train???…
The graphic novel itself is very atmospheric and the film turned out great, the actors are certainly stronger there, except that only Connelly is good here, but I hope the rest will open up.
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