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s01e04 — Without Their Maker

Snowpiercer — s01e04 — Without Their Maker

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Duration: 60 min.
Released: 07.06.202008.06.2020 04:00
Watched by: 17 88263.34%
1 season
s01e04
s01e01 - First, the Weather Changed
s01e02 - Prepare to Brace
s01e03 - Access Is Power
s01e04 - Without Their Maker
s01e05 - Justice Never Boarded
s01e06 - Trouble Comes Sideways
s01e07 - The Universe Is Indifferent
s01e08 - These Are His Revolutions
s01e09 - The Train Demanded Blood

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Mexannichek
Mexannichek
07 Jun 2020, 05:54 #
A wonderful series! The plot is famously wrapped up.
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seredi
seredi
07 Jun 2020, 23:35 #
I hope we're parting with him for a while...
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Zy4
Zy4
09 Jun 2020, 00:49 #
@seredi: It looks like the bund is growing and Melanie will have to pull it out. Or the Bundars themselves will pull it out.
But not before the end of the next episode, most likely in a week there will be meat.
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bazatron
bazatron
08 Jun 2020, 13:56 #
If the next episode is "it's been 5 years", then everything will start to make sense.)
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Smth_Familiar
Smth_Familiar
08 Jun 2020, 15:10 #
Melanie's psychological pressure with the phone call took your breath away! At first I thought it was very risky that the lady from the first would fight for the rights to the confidentiality of her family. But obviously Wilford's authority is so strong that even the very thought of hearing disapproval from his mouth, or being punished, is paralyzing.
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Smth_Familiar
Smth_Familiar
08 Jun 2020, 15:32 #
@Smth_Familiar: But then the madam said "It can't come off like we have sheltered a monster" and it dawned on me that the only thing people in the first are worried about is their own interests. Just like in the modern world!
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kseniyayuryevna
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08 Jun 2020, 15:26 #
I like this series more and more.
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kseniyayuryevna
kseniyayuryevna
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08 Jun 2020, 15:29 #
And this Mr. Wilford, as I understand it, does not exist at all and was invented as "intimidation by someone from above"?
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Smth_Familiar
Smth_Familiar
08 Jun 2020, 15:37 #
@kseniyayuryevna: He existed because someone (like that musician) shook his hand. And the people from the first one also knew him personally, plus - recordings of his voice also exist. But something happened (he disappeared/ died/ moved to 3rd grade / rebelled/ committed suicide - I don't know) and it was necessary to decide what to do. Since the train needed a strong authority that would hold all people in an iron fist, because the very thought of it disciplines - Melanie and the company decided not to tell anyone anything.

As a result, everyone is in ignorance and in fear of Wilford.
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kseniyayuryevna
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08 Jun 2020, 16:26 #
о, спасибо за объяснение, а то я видимо упустила этот момент)
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stomat82
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20 Jun 2020, 19:42 #
@Smth_Familiar: or maybe Melanie put Wilford in the drawers too. And she began to run everything herself.
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FeykO
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19 Jan 2021, 02:00 #
@Smth_Familiar: So why was he a hired actor?
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beresin
beresin
08 Jun 2020, 20:11 #
@kseniyayuryevna: Melanie constantly wears an MIT hoodie, which seems to unequivocally hint that the train is her creation. As the cop in this episode says, Mr. Wilford is a myth. Created by her. And the stories about shaking hands are most likely just fiction for the sake of show-offs.
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Венцель
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09 Jun 2020, 05:16 #
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Shof09
Shof09
09 Jun 2020, 21:39 #
@Wenzel: You've already spoilered! Well, why, huh?
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Венцель
Венцель
11 Jun 2020, 07:13 #
And what did you understand from my comment? Besides the fact that you can find a real spoiler on the Movie Search? I'm really interested in listening. Or are you able to reveal plot twists according to the degree of my surprise?
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Капитан_Сосулька
Капитан_Сосулька
14 Jun 2020, 20:46 #
@Wenzel: I'm thinking, has no one else tried to watch the list of roles? And now they've accused me of spoilers, strange people
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Джемка
Джемка
16 Jun 2020, 10:38 #
@Vodoved: I watched it too, right after I started watching the first episode. I often look out for familiar faces of the actors, and where else they played. but after what I saw, it didn't become less interesting, on the contrary, I was intrigued by how they would wrap everything up. This is purely an interest and curiosity as to how the plot will turn out. How can this be a spoiler?
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cherresh
cherresh
24 Jun 2020, 19:44 #
@Jemka: Yes, it's probably just a voice cast
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Liza
Liza
08 Jun 2020, 16:42 #
A very interesting series! I was surprised that Layton did not collude with the girl in return for the drawings, but instead received a soporific shot from Melanie. It was harsh, but it seemed even right, you couldn't figure out what else she had to do.
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Венцель
Венцель
09 Jun 2020, 05:29 #
And to me, it's not surprising, he understands that the first class does not need to help the tail, and as soon as "wilford" would have heard about the closure of the case, Layton would have become an unnecessary witness and would most likely have been killed on the way to the tail "while trying to escape" by a purchased guard. Plus, I think cop principles played an important role.
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eyskov
eyskov
08 Jun 2020, 17:25 #
Jennifer Connelly and her acting are just something. The perfect moment and her facial expressions during the call to Mr. Wilford. After watching the entire episode, all that remains is to think about what will happen in the end and be with the thoughts "another whole week before the release, damn it!"
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GeNoM
GeNoM
08 Jun 2020, 18:51 #
What a fucking Jennifer Connelly in this role!
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Liza
Liza
08 Jun 2020, 19:16 #
@GeNoM: She's just a goddess in this series! And how the character keeps calm and composure is just bravo!
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winchesters1202
winchesters1202
08 Jun 2020, 20:41 #
I saw Jennifer Connelly for the first time in this series, but how fucking amazing she plays!
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mifinc
mifinc
08 Jun 2020, 21:27 #
A wonderful series, the plot is like in a real detective story.
Let's see what the shanks will do next..
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СтасХрамцов
СтасХрамцов
10 Jun 2020, 12:03 #
I missed the moment when they were convinced that the killer was a first-class resident. It was probably in the previous episode. Please remind me.
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XYAB
XYAB
17 Jun 2020, 01:43 #
@Staskhramtsov: the Arab cleaner looking at him told him
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that_damn_write
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11 Jun 2020, 00:11 #
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MrKos
MrKos
31 Jul 2020, 21:26 #
Thanks bro, if anyone else gets killed, we know where to find you...
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RareBouqueT
RareBouqueT
13 Aug 2020, 03:29 #
Connelly is charming more and more, matching the plot.
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Necromantica
Necromantica
11 Dec 2020, 08:46 #
That's how you help the rich (
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Necromantica
Necromantica
11 Dec 2020, 09:05 #
And by the way, why did they kill the killer so quickly? There were 1 of them against one, and it would be possible to twist and interrogate as much as you want. No, the scene was spectacular, of course, but illogical.
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CalmClapper
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22 Feb 2021, 04:28 #
An incredibly exciting series. I watched series 1-4 today. I'll be joining the live commentary soon. Have a good viewing for everyone who has just started too💪🏼
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Groundjke
Groundjke
09 Aug 2021, 15:52 #
Have they been traveling by train for 7 years?? In the first episodes, they said 5 years, like
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LeonardaSoul
LeonardaSoul
08 May 2023, 22:06 #
@Groundjke: they have an hour for 1.25))
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unixmuse
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02 Oct 2022, 21:29 #
The series is great! It was interesting to watch the detective line.
And despite the particularly inconspicuous actors (Connelly is certainly an exception), the plot is intriguing and the series is gaining momentum.
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LeonardaSoul
LeonardaSoul
08 May 2023, 22:06 #
Well.. immured Miguel from dancing =(
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bertruce
bertruce
16 Jun 2023, 13:36 #
@LeonardaSoul: And I still couldn't figure out who the actor reminded me of)
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LeonardaSoul
LeonardaSoul
17 Jun 2023, 00:11 #
@bertruce: Me too. and when it came, I laughed for a long time)
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