It seems to me that an apple tree grows in this place later. And in fact all the other trees apple trees are also someone's graves… I think so. Tk, they will spend places for the cemetery on purpose.
@artdnsv: well, there is no guarantee that it will grow from one apple or one seed when they were just thrown into the ground, and not danced over them with tambourines beforehand. And so the chances of at least one tree will increase.
@vk170909: It turns out that apples contribute to decomposition, and I remember from childhood, they were maggots that eat dead rotting flesh. By the way, fish bite maggots well, if you understand what fishing is, of course?
@vk170909: considering that the bodies were submerged only half a meter underground, this is such a thing... This should not be done in any case, especially in their realities. In general, they just need to cremate the bodies, not bury them in the ground.
The series is more like a detective story in which Juliet masterfully solves two iconic murders. Even the newly minted mayor, Bernard, had to admit that he was mistaken about her. Smiled, opening the lock with a pin of the sheriff's badge. If we accept this as the truth, then no doors can resist the power of the sheriff.😀
- I am in power temporarily, for a couple of months, so I will load myself with as much elite alcohol as I can fit. Here it is, the long truth, of all the temporary workers in power.🙂🤔
@fevra: He obviously does not want to be nominated for the post, and considering that he is the head of the information department, I think he understands his chances.
@fevra: the main character of the series, the podcast. all so modest, modest, and then it turns out that he knows everything here and hides everything. casting also gives a hint) in addition to Rebecca Fergusson, who plays the main role, the second "iconic" actor in the series is Tim Robbins.
Honestly, for me, the secretary, or whoever she is, is very annoying. Find out who killed him and I'll help. We found out, oh, I can't help, I'll transfer. Like what???
@DiKEY999: The movie is generally incomprehensible with her. Why would she even think about investigating? Either there's some kind of story in store for her, or I don't know. The plot should be promoted by minor characters
And why write spoilers at all, especially since the person above didn't even ask for it? Even if he asked, it's not worth it. Here they comment on what is happening in the current series or early episodes of the series, period. Spoilers are evil, and those who write them are fried in a separate cauldron in hell)
It is interesting how selectively the transfer of knowledge from generation to generation works for them. They don't know what the stars are, but they know what the sky is, day and night.
@KatyaCyanide: yes, it seems quite logical. The concept of day and night is preserved so that there is a day mode when the lamps are shining and it is light in the Bunker, everyone is working, back and forth - this is the day when the lamps go out – night. One could call it something pretentious like, for example, Eternal Night and White Night, but this concept was transmitted, it is visual and works even in a Bunker. But the stars in the bunker are not visible, the screens are good only at the top, it is quite difficult to explain what stars are, and over time there is no need at all. For example, we know perfectly well what cars are, what skateboards, scooters are, and even, God forgive me, electric scooters and electric cars, but ask one of the current children or even quite adult some to say what a firewood, a gate or a dial phone is – you will get a reaction exactly like in the series :)
@KatyaCyanide: it's also interesting, in the last series they knew the word "drown" and "water under us". From there, that girl knew that there was water under them, if the lowest level was a steam engine, and the drilling machine and all that water were unknown to anyone.
@Darkl_ua: well, they have water, most likely there are baths and a swimming pool on the upper levels, there are also reservoirs for watering and drinking, perhaps people drowned in all this
@Darkl_ua, as I understand it, many mechanics know about the drilling rig, Juliet then told the sheriff that all the most valuable things had long been removed from it and stolen.
It turns out that they do not know that the planet is round, moves around the sun, rotates around its axis, and around the cosmos with other planets and stars 🤯
@It_is_different: it hung well, but it couldn't reach. Although we were shown in the first episode and how she turned the Mega nut in the turbine with a Mega key and up and down the rope without any problems. Weird
@SpAwN_gUy: Nothing strange, it's a skill. pitching with a barbell sometimes can't be pulled up 5 times, but drish makes exits with nines and interceptions at this time
I generally remember a real story where a child practically fell out of the window, the mother managed to grab him with one hand, but also could not resist and fell out and held on to one hand until the rescuers arrived (there was a child in the other) purely on adrenaline and the desire to save her child (if you omit the question why the window was open at all)
The only thing that made my way against the background of all these jumping "suicides": these people have been living since birth in a situation where you have 100 floors of direct line of sight down. Really, safety precautions and sports training are not absorbed with mother's milk?! Well, stand away from the railings if they are low; pull up a million times...
It is strange that in a world where there is nowhere to get something new, in principle, the concept of a relic has arisen, if there are only relics all around. on what principle is one junk a relic and the other just junk?
@maybe12345: just like for us: something "of value only because of its antiquity" and at the same time to some extent "unexpected" and "incomprehensible" is a "relic", and, for example, the shovel that is stored in your grandfather's barn, he also got from her great-grandfather and she is already 100 years old - this is a utilitarian object, not a relic.
@maybe12345: That's the word for prohibition; people shouldn't know how to use it. The rest are ordinary, everyday things. We do not call the word relic what is used to this day. Off-topic: a strange translation of "relic", it also carries a touch of reverence, but these objects, on the contrary, are avoided.
@maybe12345: Addition to Sul_Shel's comment: If relic was translated as a relic, then this is a big fail of translators. It's not a relic, it's a relic.
@flaxman: Not the sheriff, but the judge probably. And so it seemed that she was non-verbally making an offer to the sheriff - leave this case and live longer, you'll see more.
It was interesting how the funeral would show, there was an option that the bodies were burned to save space in the ground. I wondered where the children got the crayons for drawing. Apparently, to learn more about what they grow and what they eat, you need to read a book. In addition, from episode 1, I am interested in the question of where so many identical suits come from, in which they send a person to be cleaned.
@Anya_Blake: I was interested too. 10 thousand people (in my opinion, they said so), where do they bury them with limited living space? I thought they were burning it. It seems to me that burying in the ground is a waste, and throwing bitten fruits there is also. They obviously won't have an excess of food if the whole structure is self-sufficient. In our world, it is allowed to bury (in an existing grave on top of another coffin) in how many years, 20? 40? And do they have so much land to bury there?
@oniXtacie: it would be possible, in theory, to cremate ordinary people, but the mayor is a "pillar of society", like she should have "a place where you can take excursions."
@dimon222: and in the previous episode, the papers were mysteriously shown, and then nothing. Well, the papers. Well, the dossier. That's all. The end of suspense.
Episode 5 …… They showed a continuous struggle for power-we will substitute this one to appoint him, we will kill this one because he knows / hinders a lot… And only at the end of an interesting moment where a man was trying to understand the pattern of "night lights", the very fact that no one knows what stars are, in my opinion, is very cool. I want the series to show not only scenes of power struggles, murders, investigations, but also scenes of searching for new relics, studying the stars on the screen, studying the screen itself (did no one notice the frame change when the generator was turned off?) After all, it is the fact that they have been living in a bunker for many generations that makes it possible to make the series as atmospheric and a little fantastic as possible. It would be a shame if everything comes down to an ordinary detective story and the constant killing of characters by throwing them down the stairs))
Why throw so many bitten apples into the grave? It seems that everything is in short supply there, but there is so much food to bury. Or is it such a hint about apple products, use a little and you can throw it away. :-)
@oldbk: Well, they have such a ritual, they said that the bodies will serve even after death. Apples are seeds, bodies are fertilizers, all the apple trees next to each other in the frame are someone's former graves.
Now it's clear which side the bearded lawyer is on. The cleaners are most likely the shadow government. They are the founding fathers who rebelled against the US government calling them rebels. They killed everyone who wanted to forcibly release them outside into a reborn world with flowers and birds, locked themselves in and came up with the idea of eternal life underground.
@Big-eared Roadie: They don't say that in the series. I just watched the first episode yesterday and decided to look at the rebellion of 140 years ago by the rebels, having data from the next 4 episodes. This theory fits well with what has already been shown. In fact, we are now looking at an autonomous cult whose inhabitants do not realize this.
@Velldanas: The more I watch, the more End Rand, Andrew Ryan and Levin's Bioshock pop up, precisely in terms of ideology itself, because that was the case with Rapchur and Colombia (literally the founding fathers there). And if that's the case, I don't mind, anyway, there won't be a series about Bio in the near future, and the idea is a miracle how good.
The riddles are over. It's all domestic stuff. The streets are full of fucking broken lanterns. It's boring. One 1-minute dialogue about riddles of 50 minutes. Sluggish.
@GreenHouse: I thought that the lack of an elevator to save energy, and for such a number of people, there is not enough one elevator for so many floors, however, it would be possible to come up with rules for its economically profitable use. I am more interested in another fact. They have radically banned the development of technology. Frozen, but why? As an option, the available resources should be used to support the existing equipment, since, in my opinion, there is definitely no metal fabrication plant there.
@Darkl_ua: well, I don't know, it seems to me that for important people and emergencies it would be possible to make several small technical elevators, such as kitchen ones, on a system of counterweights that do not require energy
I don't know what people are whining about, I like the extended storyline with Jules in the Shelter. In the book, she breaks off very suddenly and quickly, with Jules, who has not managed to achieve almost anything. The only thing I regret in this context is that they will not keep up with the first book in the first season. It's not that there are a lot of events there for the second half either, maybe they will start to weave the next book right away, it would be interesting.
@ShaMarinka: most likely it will be. Admittedly, the first book came out quite dry, but in it the first three chapters described at best a week and a half, and in general it was unclear when the upper floors had time to feel sympathy for Jules. So who is the extended version of her life as sheriff very much. Although there are definitely questions about the plot changes: Juice already knows the huge secret of the bunker (albeit from the wrong side of it, heh), so the book conflict of the incomprehensibility of the world outside the walls no longer seems like something serious, because kammon, she has already found proof that the world is huge and God did not create the bunker. It seems to me that the Russian Federation would do well to play out the existential crisis of such a character. More questions about the third bunker force: it is clear that the lawyers were introduced to draw attention and take away from the main antagonist, after all, the IT book department was not hiding at all, there were only signs of BERNARD's WORLD DOMINATION missing at the entrance of each of their floors. But such a change is quite problematic, because two control forces are unlikely to get along, one should have been squeezed out long ago to preserve power and control (especially given the power-centricity of the book Bernard, which he will show, and the pressure already shown from the legal side, they are literally people in black, who clean people right and left). So yes, I agree that the adaptation is still good from the point of view of expanding the ent. We'll see how they spin the story. (By the way, how do you like the 360-degree turn in Juice's relationship with people? In the book, all the progeroi loved her and almost wanted to carry her in their arms, especially Marnes, in the series she is an underrated genius, to whom the whole top is frankly not happy).
No one was killed in the first half of the series and I already started to worry, well, like that... Half of the episode has passed and not a single murder... NIKANON is straight !111@¹1! But then the series got better ahahaha 🌚 Seriously, it's true that no matter what the series, the negative population growth in the bunker is happening :) The series is still pleasing :з
With apples and a grave, it is aesthetically and melancholic, considering that the series from Apple, as a whole, was shot very well and clearly better than I thought, but this series seems to have turned into a standard detective story, however, it is interesting to follow Rebecca and the intrigues that are necessary, the only thing that really cut - about the stars and lack of knowledge and understanding of what it is. 140 years is not so much, they are not androids whose memory was erased and people stopped thinking and asking questions (?!), such a shoal of screenwriters, I still understand technology, but this..
140 years ago there was an alleged uprising of the rebels, they have been there much longer, as I understand, because they say in the series that they do not know: who built the bunker, etc.
While others blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. While others are limited by morality and the law, remember - everything is allowed. We act in darkness, but we serve the light. We Are The Cleaners.
@MrKypo: Yeah, and in response to him in Kuplinov's voice: Ha, go fuck yourself! What kind of gun? You look what's going on, I want to go outside. There won't be any guns, there won't be any guns!
@tsokka: I remember that I had a similar thought - I revised the fragment. The 1st and 2nd are definitely apples, the 3rd and 4th are definitely not apples, the 5th and 6th - I won't say. Then they showed everyone together, I noticed a few apples for sure. And already in the grave, in my opinion, mostly apples.
I especially noticed where someone took a close-up bite, and there the flesh is just yellow, like a peach , and in the opening, too, the drawing looks like a peach somehow more like 🤷🏼
@bucket_man: For example, I don't understand the IT guy either. Formally, he was clean, no one should have known about the disk, why would "they" (cleaners, yes) come to him? But somehow they came out, maybe that's the answer. By the way, the main cleaner, before pushing off his assistant, presented him with an IT book as a failure. What is the failure? Well, except for the fall. And what does this have to do with the tunnel that the IT guy was looking for?
The questions are rhetorical, otherwise I know the local public, because they will come running with their spoilers, "but in the book ..." I'm not interested in what you have in the book, reading is for those who do not understand the pictures, leave me alone.
Everything is strained and constantly some shoals come out. One hangs on the railing in front of the crowd, but no one notices. The second one drops from the gallery and no one sees anything. The secretary is a greyhound to the last degree. What was shown in the magnifying glass on the camera? It is also not clear
I don't really understand why such a dynamic beginning, the basis of which is fantasy, where the interest was in revealing the topic of why something was hidden from people in the bunker, merged into a detective story, yes, of course, in the end everything will lead to the original goal, but what is the beginning and what is now. Perhaps the eye is pleased with Rebecca Ferguson, good actors, the characters all died, which is sad, the cast was excellent, at the time of episode 5 I see 1 good actress and a bunch of black very talented actors who can't cope with the role, absolutely 0 charisma, 0 emotions, the actors are inanimate unlike the same Rebecca, the pretensions are not to color I ask you to note because the last chief, an actor very talented and I liked him, also died, leaving behind another black deputy chief who does not exactly fall short of his level... Ian Glen is not enough yet, maybe there will be more, but from what I saw, too, I was not particularly impressed. But the soundtrack in the open is very pleasing, and in general, the soundtracks and camerawork in the first series were at a high level, and at the time of the middle it did not get worse.
They make a whole tragedy of going down and up 140 floors.... The sheriff needs two days off to go down and up the stairs. The screenwriters have apparently never lived in mansions of 20+ floors with steep staircases. In fact, it takes them 2 hours maximum to go down and climb their light twisted stairs. I could have done it at lunchtime)
@PussyDestroier: Yes, it's relatively fast to get down, but it's already much more difficult to get up. Even on the conditionally 20th floor it is quite difficult to climb, and the higher, the more fatigue accumulates. And there are not 20, but 140.
@PussyDestroier: She wants to move her things. It's not very easy to get up with things. Perhaps she has more than one trip, plus they still need to be collected.
Я что-то не очень поняла, почему ночью на экранах вдруг звезды видно? Звезды мы видим когда небо чистое и ясное, а у них днем на экранах всегда небо серое, вообще всё серое. Грязная линза камеры? Ну допустим, понятно. Но почему тогда днем небо серое, а ночью вдруг звезды видно всё равно не очень ясно. Может я что-то упустила?
Неплохо, неплохо. С некоторыми претензиями (практически только к сценарию), но действительно атмосферно, актёры играют довольно сносно, саунд ненавязчивый и в тему.
Maybe they have some kind of reality show there, like the last hero?))) and I also thought, if Sobyanin had been mayor, he would have shifted the tiles on all 144 floors
I kept waiting for the assistant to talk about the moment when the electricity was turned off and the green grass was visible for half a second, why doesn't anyone talk about it? That the camera's filter turned off earlier than the camera itself
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122Do the creators of the series know anything about Apple?? Do owners of Apple devices need to start worrying??😨😱
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Or how it works...
Smiled, opening the lock with a pin of the sheriff's badge. If we accept this as the truth, then no doors can resist the power of the sheriff.😀
- I am in power temporarily, for a couple of months, so I will load myself with as much elite alcohol as I can fit.
Here it is, the long truth, of all the temporary workers in power.🙂🤔
But the stars in the bunker are not visible, the screens are good only at the top, it is quite difficult to explain what stars are, and over time there is no need at all.
For example, we know perfectly well what cars are, what skateboards, scooters are, and even, God forgive me, electric scooters and electric cars, but ask one of the current children or even quite adult some to say what a firewood, a gate or a dial phone is – you will get a reaction exactly like in the series :)
The only thing that made my way against the background of all these jumping "suicides": these people have been living since birth in a situation where you have 100 floors of direct line of sight down. Really, safety precautions and sports training are not absorbed with mother's milk?!
Well, stand away from the railings if they are low; pull up a million times...
Off-topic: a strange translation of "relic", it also carries a touch of reverence, but these objects, on the contrary, are avoided.
If relic was translated as a relic, then this is a big fail of translators. It's not a relic, it's a relic.
They showed a continuous struggle for power-we will substitute this one to appoint him, we will kill this one because he knows / hinders a lot…
And only at the end of an interesting moment where a man was trying to understand the pattern of "night lights", the very fact that no one knows what stars are, in my opinion, is very cool. I want the series to show not only scenes of power struggles, murders, investigations, but also scenes of searching for new relics, studying the stars on the screen, studying the screen itself (did no one notice the frame change when the generator was turned off?)
After all, it is the fact that they have been living in a bunker for many generations that makes it possible to make the series as atmospheric and a little fantastic as possible. It would be a shame if everything comes down to an ordinary detective story and the constant killing of characters by throwing them down the stairs))
fully describes each episode with the death of one of the characters :D
Rebecca Ferguson in this image is a miracle how good she is 😍
So yes, I agree that the adaptation is still good from the point of view of expanding the ent. We'll see how they spin the story.
(By the way, how do you like the 360-degree turn in Juice's relationship with people? In the book, all the progeroi loved her and almost wanted to carry her in their arms, especially Marnes, in the series she is an underrated genius, to whom the whole top is frankly not happy).
Seriously, it's true that no matter what the series, the negative population growth in the bunker is happening :)
The series is still pleasing :з
While others are limited by morality and the law, remember - everything is allowed.
We act in darkness, but we serve the light. We Are The Cleaners.
- The old one hasn 't cooled down yet 😂😂😂
The 1st and 2nd are definitely apples, the 3rd and 4th are definitely not apples, the 5th and 6th - I won't say. Then they showed everyone together, I noticed a few apples for sure. And already in the grave, in my opinion, mostly apples.
, and in the opening, too, the drawing looks like a peach somehow more like 🤷🏼
By the way, the main cleaner, before pushing off his assistant, presented him with an IT book as a failure. What is the failure? Well, except for the fall. And what does this have to do with the tunnel that the IT guy was looking for?
The questions are rhetorical, otherwise I know the local public, because they will come running with their spoilers, "but in the book ..." I'm not interested in what you have in the book, reading is for those who do not understand the pictures, leave me alone.
Juliette is doing great, she's taking everything for granted.
What was shown in the magnifying glass on the camera? It is also not clear
The sheriff needs two days off to go down and up the stairs.
The screenwriters have apparently never lived in mansions of 20+ floors with steep staircases.
In fact, it takes them 2 hours maximum to go down and climb their light twisted stairs. I could have done it at lunchtime)
Perhaps she has more than one trip, plus they still need to be collected.
Грязная линза камеры? Ну допустим, понятно.
Но почему тогда днем небо серое, а ночью вдруг звезды видно всё равно не очень ясно. Может я что-то упустила?