@Akkordos: a low bow to you, with a brush, it was for this comment that I went, the plot has been dragging on for so long that I left the series until the last episodes come out
@aitras: it's strange that a person is given disadvantages, but you don't remember the ending of the last episode, where the main character allegedly falls down the stairs into the abyss to epic music. And in this series, we are briefly shown that she did not take much risk and landed on this transition) a very cheap move, by the way, a fat minus
@raziel2011: I don't even remember any hints in the last ending that she was falling into the abyss...
It was in the comments that they inflated the idea that she would be killed right now, but the disc would suddenly survive and someone would study it further, which sounded pretty crazy to me right away. And the heroine was just jumping very confidently and there was a feeling that she knew what she was doing and was not going to die.
But in general, she should have had a certain tension, since she jumped from a height of 2-3 floors onto concrete, you can kill yourself there and break well, and in case of injury she would be caught again, so the risks were fatal anyway.)
@xRat: on old hard drives, the reading head can fly off with a smaller push - I had this. And only a specialist can fix it. With all these chases and falls, there is zero chance that she would be able to launch it in real life. And if you've fallen to the bottom, forget it altogether.
@Dark_Alice: That's what I'm talking about. ) I'm just an IT guy myself, at one time I was engaged in hardware, including hard drives, in general, I imagine what a hard drive is and how its filling perceives bumps, falls, etc...) That's why it seemed to me that the main character would be killed, and at the same time the hard drive would also survive, doubly delusional... )
@PlayerENO: Oh you. Can you name a specific model and manufacturer, at the same time, the cost? Just don't write any bullshit, are you specifically interested in screws so that you can bang them with all the nonsense on the concrete floor, and then they worked without problems??
Yes, there's that record with the birds again, apparently Juliet will ask for cleaning herself to see it all. I don't understand why people should be forcibly thrown out if you can show them this record and they will come out to look at the birds themselves))) Well, either she will go down to the flooded door. I wonder if the people in the bunker can swim at all? We've never seen water Of the new favorite characters, a red-haired IT hacker, a cool person The lawyer's child is of course something with something: "Send her to be cleaned so that she never appears again"
again, these riddles, "you find out where the door is, and it turned out that water is not a problem"🙄🙄 you're already saying this to an unknown camera hidden under seven ciphers on a secret disk in a mental hospital, can't you tell me directly where this five-meter door is and how to pump out the water?)) as if someone on the left would be able to find this record. Yes, even if he can, God, what is all this for
Am I the only one who has a feeling that Sims is a double agent there? Nominally, he is for the law, but in fact he wants to get out of the shelter with his family?
"The most important thing is that the door exists. You Just Find Her" (c) George Wilkins
A funny dialogue about who to hang the connection on and incite the raiders. We've been staying on the nit since '98. 😃
It is not very clear why Bernard did not immediately start looking for a screw connection when, at the beginning of the series, a keychain with the number 18 "lit up, vibrated" on his desk? But he immediately announced a system-wide search after Kyle's interrogation, as a result of which this number surfaced. Apparently, he is directly connected to this screw and it scares him terribly. 🤔
@apb48: so the keychain is not connected to the hard drive, but most likely to the room and what's going on there (fuck), if it was flashing every time a disk was inserted, then it would have started hunting for it long ago. After all, the disk has been repeatedly launched before
I'm honestly delighted with the series! I love the feeling of nervous jitters and the desire to find out the outcome as soon as possible. There are still no answers, but it seems that the plot is moving faster, although there is only one episode left and I wouldn't be surprised at all if the ending is like Juliet is standing in front of that very door)
The series is most reminiscent of the World of the Wild West. The subjects, at first glance, are different, but here and there - the world in the world, some kind of experiment and secret plan, hidden superiors, GG begins to realize what is happening, go through his maze in search of the truth and a way out. And even the opening theme here is very similar to Ramin Javadi's track "This World", I've been wondering all the episodes where the melody is familiar from)
Yes, the screensaver also reminds me very much of the World of the Wild West in melody)) but I never finished watching it... and it was closed, I don't know if it makes sense to continue
"Of course, I had no right to take care of you for the sake of a career. But I didn't know then that I would love you. You can't even imagine how far I was from that back then..."
Well, did you exhale? ) And then under the last series, a new Game of Thrones was already predicted, with sudden cuts of the main characters))
Well, the series is quite interesting and dynamic. We spent most of the season chatting, and then hop, and immediately a bunch of events. I hope the last episode will be the same and at least it will close some questions for us, and not leave all the answers for the next season.
I wonder what kind of game the wife of the chief lawyer is playing... In general, is this her first appearance in the plot, or has she already shone somewhere in previous episodes?
@Viskorka: Well, then I didn't miss anything. Just the unexpected appearance of an apparently significant character. And she's not the last person in the bunker, obviously.
@Injekcia: And initially, she had the opportunity to just knock Jules out. With a hammer, she had already come within striking distance from behind, and she hinted that if she wanted, she had the experience and skills to defend herself, but she was a former operative, judging by the conversations. Plus her words at the end, in a conversation with her husband...
So, obviously there is some other game here. Apparently, another important character appeared on the scene.
Damn, why is the next episode so far away, aaaaaaa!!!! The series flew by unnoticed at all. It's great that we opened the CD, but now how can we show this video to the others when they don't even really have TVs and there's nowhere to broadcast.... I don't want to wait long, I want to find out how it ends :(
Interestingly, it turns out that now Jules has a choice. Or go to the top and see all this beauty with your own eyes, that is, in fact, to gain freedom. Or else, following George's lead, go to the very bottom and look for some mysterious door there.
The first option seems more logical, you give up and get what you want. The second option seems less logical, because in fact, the door may lead to some other technical room intended for servicing the same drill, for example.
But the first option is too simple and the loss of all those who "came out" is not so clear. Maybe they're really dying, but if they're not dying, then why aren't they trying to reach the others, not guarding the exit, in case someone else is released?
So I'm betting on the option with a flooded room at the drill.
@ndegenet: To me, the poison version seems somewhat dubious, but not from the point of view of the plot, but of logic. The creators of the series put two characters on the main poster, which were quickly removed. It's a bit illogical, maybe it wasn't poison, but a soporific gas.
Maybe I'm wrong and we won't see them anymore, I'm not familiar with the original source.
I think Jules will go to the underwater door... no wonder this option has already been highlighted and George has also made an accent... as for going outside, it's not that simple... it is unclear why those who came out earlier died... perhaps some kind of gas was allowed into the suit, so the sheriff tried to remove it in the first episode... I think it's necessary to go out without a suit, but who would dare to do such a thing?!... there was a plan of the bunker on the hard drive, in the first series it seemed to shine, if Jules finds it, he will understand the system...
I don't think it's that simple, the picture is too perfect. This is the first time in a long time that I've been on pins and needles, and I was really worried about Jules.
I'm currently watching "From the Outside" in parallel, and I can't help but compare the actors' performance in both projects.
Rebecca Ferguson and the rest of the cast are so good, if you watch both shows too, you'll probably understand what I mean. In this episode, at the moment of watching the video from the disc, I almost shed a tear myself when I watched her emotions.
@thunder165: but in the "Outside" they throw intrigues and unanswered questions, then they don't even ask questions. The penultimate episode, and they show what was already in the beginning. The footage they watched is identical to what the Sheriff saw. The same birds flew by.
The boy calmly said, "I hope you'll send her for cleaning." He's like some kind of son of Unicorns, no doubt. And in principle, it's scary to live in a world in which children wish for death. The authorities are threatening to be purged for not writing a denunciation. The executive and legislative powers belong to the same department (lawyers). It turns out that the sheriff and his subordinates were created just for show. We wrote above that it would be more logical to go to the cleaning, rather than to the mysterious door, because there may be another useless room. I don't think so. We were shown the bunker plan in the first episodes. There's a specific passage that leads either outside or to similar bunkers. If there had been a technical room, it would have been marked on the bunker plan. Well, Sims' wife is clearly not that simple. She could have easily defused Jules, but she let her go for some reason of her own (certainly not because of the danger that the order to "hold your fire" would be ignored). I wonder if Jules will go to the door alone. There is already a promising company of smart people for the union (an IT specialist from the cafeteria, a red-haired IT specialist and his friend).
I don't believe there's a habitable world outside....... Well, somehow it doesn't look as plausible as possible.... So many generations in the bunker, so many people sent to clean up.... They can't stay alive....but then another question is why broadcast this picture of the living world to people sent to clean up? Maybe they should be calm and inspired before they die and clean the cell? It would be cool if a door under water leads to a new bunker where people also live....
@aniannaKH: They can't stay because something might be added to the suit itself. one of the versions is that there is some kind of gas. They see the real world, and then they just suffocate in this space suit.
@mike_vass: I started watching the mmm series.. the real world, I took the book literally at the very beginning about this "real world"..bl...seriously....And so it all started great.😧
@aniannaKH: All those who have gone to clean the camera see the same wedge of birds - there is a recording in the helmet! Recording with a helmet, so that they all run to wipe the camera so that the others can see it too (it sounds very stupid, as if the dirt on the camera turns the lawn into a scorched desert). There are also no corpses of previous cleaners on this recording, so the sheriff had to take off his helmet to see his wife's corpse. Some kind of radiation kills them. These are my guesses, I haven't read the book!
@IMMORTALKING: By the way, somehow I didn't listen before, but they talked about sorting garbage every time on sabah? Because there were about ten of these threats on the series. Of course, there is a lot of bullshit in the subs, but here I didn't even think that they could lie so much.
@kingforthesirens: on the one hand, there's a spoiler, but on the other, the audience was immediately shown everything. We just refused to watch and think cretically and just decided for ourselves about the living world. But the picture has never changed, either on the computer or when people came out. I would imagine if they all came out at the same time and saw the same thing, but no. Everyone came out with intervals of a couple of years, but everyone has summer, grass, and sun. And the birds fly exactly at this moment and always the same way. After all, some of them could come out in the summer, and some in the fall or winter. It could have been raining at that moment, but no, we always see the same picture.
@vmonstaa: by the way, sometimes moderators delete comments here, but for example, in this series, only the community itself is working to ensure that spoilers go under the cat. And the moderators are asleep. Many thanks to the community for promptly registering all book readers.
@Ytzin: there is nothing wrong with reading books ;) you can read books and not spoil those who haven't read them (that's how I live). But going into the comments and refuting all theories by referring to books is already a crime. :D And I agree with you, the moderation in the comments of other series seems to work faster. I've never seen SO MANY spoilers in the comments since I've been on mayshouse, it's kind of a nightmare.
@coysweet: you didn't read the books well, or you didn't read the third book (and it hasn't been translated into Russian), otherwise you wouldn't have written this ;) If you've read it, remember Donald and his cough ;) And the scriptwriters have moved away from the original source, literally after the second episode there are huge discrepancies.
@Ooleetka: I've read books vertically, so to speak, but yes, they've moved away from the source in many places... starting with Lucas, who, according to the book, Bernard did not send to the mines... I made him my deputy... I didn't read what happened next, so I decided to scroll through the Shift...And yes, there is an interesting point about Donald coming out...
@10anya_d: yes, they have moved away from the book in all places :) I don't know who gave me a dislike there, he probably didn't read the book either, but I finished reading the third one yesterday, and I can once again responsibly declare nonsense :)))) It's a pity that any dialogue on this topic implies spoilers, I don't want to spoil anyone's pleasure.
The sluggish current pace is a bit annoying. The plot unfolds very slowly and at least something interesting is thrown up in the last couple of minutes of the episode.
And here's the first mention 18) Of course, I won't spoiler, but how will they be able to keep up with the series? (There is no need to answer this, even the conversation will be a spoiler) I personally liked the 2nd book, not the first, so I'm waiting for them to take up the 2nd one, well, if they don't end this season stupidly.
Damn, you left a fat intrigue here, but I think many people here have the idea that 18 is the number of another bunker. But don't answer me. We will be waiting)))
The series has almost nothing in common with the book, some kind of crap has been stirred up. How did Alison record what she saw when she came out of the Bunker on this disc? Complete nonsense. Well, from the Holston footage, one could already guess that a beautiful picture is broadcast only in a helmet.
I fell hard 2 times in my childhood. The first time from a tree from the height of the third floor to the ground. He woke up the next day in the hospital with a concussion and temporary memory loss. It's amazing that I didn't break anything. The second time he fell from an ordinary brick garage onto the asphalt. He broke his arm. So I have a question. How could Jules jump from such a height, fall flat on the asphalt and then just get up and run on? The height there is 7-8 meters by eye
If suddenly someone is thinking about reading a book, but has not started yet, my unsolicited advice to you is: do not read it yet, wait at least until the series is unwound a little, otherwise you will be like me now, sitting with a squint and not understanding what is going on, trying to find at least something in common :D At the same time, I should note that the series itself is not bad and holds the intrigue quite well.
@Kentavr: I started reading because I can't wait for the ending, and blinb, they're completely different and equally well-received. Although books shock me for the third day and keep me on pins and needles. It's even interesting how things work out in the series.
Everything is cool, but there are only more questions: 1. If the air outside does not kill, but what is in the helmet kills, then this explains why so many bodies are lying outside (if you look from the cafeteria). But, from the same cafeteria, when the screensaver went out, it is clear that there are no bodies. It turns out that they are either carried away (survivors, aliens, smth else), or still wearing helmets is not a soporific gas (poison). 2. Where do all the surviving cleaners go? If we discard the options with the fact that there are a bunch of other bunkers, then it becomes really interesting what the first ones did there. 3. Let's say Juliet and the redhead from ivanushki cut a video from the disc in the cafeteria. The riot police will immediately come running and kick everyone out with sticks, they will also announce that the video is mounted (although what to mount it on). 4. It is unclear why the new sheriff burned the book. Tear out the page, put the rest back in place, the current sealer is better to put. 5. Well, in general, it seems to me that he will very quickly take the side of Juliet. He saw the cameras, the broken mirror is translucent too, there is also a guide to Georgia.
And of course we are waiting for which door Juliet will choose. I agree with the majority here that it will be underwater. Let's see how she will learn to swim)
@AtomnijPchelovek: It makes no sense to go outside, the series is about a bunker. So no matter how you twist it, the action inside will be connected with the bunker(s)
@AtomnijPchelovek: Why discard it? He'll come out, see more bunkers, and that's it- the end of the season. They won't even finish the first book, they can still stretch it out for the season.
The movement was interesting, but the fact that the screen shows lies was predictable. The question is, is that video from the hard drive true? Well, in fact, it was also possible to guess about the underwater door. Although we were there a few episodes ago, it's still unclear how to open a case for Anthony. They can't even swim there, let alone dive. Maybe they'll get some ancient scuba gear?
And who cut down the cameras for them all over the bunker?! Okay, Jules is a master of jumping, it may well be if she often ran up and down stairs, but cameras?!
Yeah... There are 10 thousand people in total, and there are less than a hundred of them IT specialists, and the head of this service says that I do not know you, but I was told. Seriously? Yes, in the buried space, everyone knows each other not only by sight and by name, but also all the rumors associated with each. And if you remove those who are not in contact with each other, and vice versa, who are in closer contact, then there is a maximum sample of a thousand. So there are also those who are engaged in serious illegal work for such a small community. Well, it's just a facepalm on a facepalm. Seriously, who is all this designed for?
@MarkRaffer: any person has an average limit on the number of social connections, equal to 150. Plus, in this community, residents of some levels may not have contact with residents of others for a lifetime.
@indianhate: for any "Average" person under normal conditions. There are initially conditions with limited numbers, which are neither more nor less from year to year. It's like being on a submarine - everyone knows each other. And if you take away the upper class and the most shudra-shitbearers, then at the same level, everyone is just a brother and matchmaker to each other. But come on, the author didn't bother with this description of society, because he doesn't know anything about it. He tried to spell out other allusions.
By the way, what about their sewage system? This issue is not something that has not been disclosed, but has been completely bypassed.
How annoying this Black Sims with his barbershop beard is with his "acting" abilities. In the last episode, his voice broke out of the blue, but here he was shouting unintelligible shit as he ran. It feels like the directors aren't messing up at all and they're all making 1-take clips.
Right now I've checked it out, it turns out to be some famous rapper. It's clear, in short, the creators didn't give a shit about the quality of the actors, the quality of the shooting, or the realism in general. They decided to take out the entire series on Rebecca Ferguson alone.
The only thing I don't understand is that there is so much information on the disk. Is there really nothing more important than a video recording with the outside world, which is unknown whether it is true or not? George has had years, and is this video the most important thing that he directed Jules to in his message?
This series keeps me intrigued, I'm very curious what will happen next, there are so many guesses in my head.. I'll try to crack the picture in the dining room or not 🤔
The paper lights up at a temperature of 450 degrees Celsius. How the fuck did the book catch fire in the oven? I have an electric oven, there is a maximum of 250 degrees. And there are no ovens where 450 degrees can be, it's just not necessary. And where do they get chips for computers, how does everything work in this world?
@-TraumfraU-: It's commendable, of course, that you've read or at least know Ray Bradbury's book, but the problem is that 450 degrees Fahrenheit, not Celsius 🤣
@kate_kumko: In fact, it was Celsius that Bradbury mixed up the scales. I Googled it on purpose before I wrote that comment. It depends on the type of paper, of course, but it doesn't burn in my oven at 300 Celsius.
@-TraumfraU-: With an instant flame in the oven, this is, of course, cinematic hyperbole, but in principle, baking parchment at 250 on a convection grill smoulders quite cheerfully and charred at the edges.
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139Just gorgeous.
Now we have to wait a whole week for the denouement of all this (
P.S. I am not familiar with the original source.
It was in the comments that they inflated the idea that she would be killed right now, but the disc would suddenly survive and someone would study it further, which sounded pretty crazy to me right away. And the heroine was just jumping very confidently and there was a feeling that she knew what she was doing and was not going to die.
But in general, she should have had a certain tension, since she jumped from a height of 2-3 floors onto concrete, you can kill yourself there and break well, and in case of injury she would be caught again, so the risks were fatal anyway.)
Of the new favorite characters, a red-haired IT hacker, a cool person
The lawyer's child is of course something with something: "Send her to be cleaned so that she never appears again"
A funny dialogue about who to hang the connection on and incite the raiders. We've been staying on the nit since '98. 😃
It is not very clear why Bernard did not immediately start looking for a screw connection when, at the beginning of the series, a keychain with the number 18 "lit up, vibrated" on his desk? But he immediately announced a system-wide search after Kyle's interrogation, as a result of which this number surfaced. Apparently, he is directly connected to this screw and it scares him terribly. 🤔
The series is most reminiscent of the World of the Wild West. The subjects, at first glance, are different, but here and there - the world in the world, some kind of experiment and secret plan, hidden superiors, GG begins to realize what is happening, go through his maze in search of the truth and a way out. And even the opening theme here is very similar to Ramin Javadi's track "This World", I've been wondering all the episodes where the melody is familiar from)
- I love you, Juliette Nichols
"I love you".
Just Novoseltsev and Kalugin)
"Of course, I had no right to take care of you for the sake of a career.
But I didn't know then that I would love you.
You can't even imagine how far I was from that back then..."
Well, the series is quite interesting and dynamic. We spent most of the season chatting, and then hop, and immediately a bunch of events. I hope the last episode will be the same and at least it will close some questions for us, and not leave all the answers for the next season.
I wonder what kind of game the wife of the chief lawyer is playing... In general, is this her first appearance in the plot, or has she already shone somewhere in previous episodes?
So, obviously there is some other game here. Apparently, another important character appeared on the scene.
I don't want to wait long, I want to find out how it ends :(
The first option seems more logical, you give up and get what you want. The second option seems less logical, because in fact, the door may lead to some other technical room intended for servicing the same drill, for example.
But the first option is too simple and the loss of all those who "came out" is not so clear. Maybe they're really dying, but if they're not dying, then why aren't they trying to reach the others, not guarding the exit, in case someone else is released?
So I'm betting on the option with a flooded room at the drill.
Maybe I'm wrong and we won't see them anymore, I'm not familiar with the original source.
Rebecca Ferguson and the rest of the cast are so good, if you watch both shows too, you'll probably understand what I mean. In this episode, at the moment of watching the video from the disc, I almost shed a tear myself when I watched her emotions.
And in principle, it's scary to live in a world in which children wish for death. The authorities are threatening to be purged for not writing a denunciation. The executive and legislative powers belong to the same department (lawyers). It turns out that the sheriff and his subordinates were created just for show.
We wrote above that it would be more logical to go to the cleaning, rather than to the mysterious door, because there may be another useless room. I don't think so. We were shown the bunker plan in the first episodes. There's a specific passage that leads either outside or to similar bunkers. If there had been a technical room, it would have been marked on the bunker plan.
Well, Sims' wife is clearly not that simple. She could have easily defused Jules, but she let her go for some reason of her own (certainly not because of the danger that the order to "hold your fire" would be ignored).
I wonder if Jules will go to the door alone. There is already a promising company of smart people for the union (an IT specialist from the cafeteria, a red-haired IT specialist and his friend).
Maybe they should be calm and inspired before they die and clean the cell?
It would be cool if a door under water leads to a new bunker where people also live....
There are also no corpses of previous cleaners on this recording, so the sheriff had to take off his helmet to see his wife's corpse.
Some kind of radiation kills them.
These are my guesses, I haven't read the book!
Many thanks to the community for promptly registering all book readers.
And I agree with you, the moderation in the comments of other series seems to work faster. I've never seen SO MANY spoilers in the comments since I've been on mayshouse, it's kind of a nightmare.
And the scriptwriters have moved away from the original source, literally after the second episode there are huge discrepancies.
I don't know who gave me a dislike there, he probably didn't read the book either, but I finished reading the third one yesterday, and I can once again responsibly declare nonsense :))))
It's a pity that any dialogue on this topic implies spoilers, I don't want to spoil anyone's pleasure.
I personally liked the 2nd book, not the first, so I'm waiting for them to take up the 2nd one, well, if they don't end this season stupidly.
But don't answer me.
We will be waiting)))
So I have a question. How could Jules jump from such a height, fall flat on the asphalt and then just get up and run on? The height there is 7-8 meters by eye
At the same time, I should note that the series itself is not bad and holds the intrigue quite well.
1. If the air outside does not kill, but what is in the helmet kills, then this explains why so many bodies are lying outside (if you look from the cafeteria). But, from the same cafeteria, when the screensaver went out, it is clear that there are no bodies. It turns out that they are either carried away (survivors, aliens, smth else), or still wearing helmets is not a soporific gas (poison).
2. Where do all the surviving cleaners go? If we discard the options with the fact that there are a bunch of other bunkers, then it becomes really interesting what the first ones did there.
3. Let's say Juliet and the redhead from ivanushki cut a video from the disc in the cafeteria. The riot police will immediately come running and kick everyone out with sticks, they will also announce that the video is mounted (although what to mount it on).
4. It is unclear why the new sheriff burned the book. Tear out the page, put the rest back in place, the current sealer is better to put.
5. Well, in general, it seems to me that he will very quickly take the side of Juliet. He saw the cameras, the broken mirror is translucent too, there is also a guide to Georgia.
And of course we are waiting for which door Juliet will choose. I agree with the majority here that it will be underwater. Let's see how she will learn to swim)
Well, in fact, it was also possible to guess about the underwater door. Although we were there a few episodes ago, it's still unclear how to open a case for Anthony. They can't even swim there, let alone dive. Maybe they'll get some ancient scuba gear?
So there are also those who are engaged in serious illegal work for such a small community. Well, it's just a facepalm on a facepalm. Seriously, who is all this designed for?
By the way, what about their sewage system? This issue is not something that has not been disclosed, but has been completely bypassed.
A delightful tip from George. Still, it's clear what needs to be done.
Where? How? What's the difference? Ahah
From the series suckers
Right now I've checked it out, it turns out to be some famous rapper.
It's clear, in short, the creators didn't give a shit about the quality of the actors, the quality of the shooting, or the realism in general. They decided to take out the entire series on Rebecca Ferguson alone.