"Don't be afraid of anything. The suppliers are well done." To understand how, what's out there? Good electrical tape (not from the IT department) turned out to be more effective than the information on the hard disk. 😁 In real life, this also happens quite often.🙂
@apb48: In defense of information from the "ancient" screw. If Jules hadn't seen this school of birds in advance, she wouldn't have realized that she was nae.. , in short, they deceive. Here one does not interfere with the other, but on the contrary contributes to the correct decision.
@Vasya_kurolesov: If the protective suit was not airtight, no knowledge about the "school of birds" would have helped Juliet to survive. Another question is, how much air was charged into the cylinder? I think a little, given their past experience. She needs to run to another bunker, and incredible artistry to very quickly convince the residents of another bunker to let her in. There is, of course, a chance to come back, and I think the observers of her enchanting exit would force her to let Juliet back in, but this is unlikely.
@VASYA_KUROLESOV: She never figured it out. She just decided not to believe in any one theory, but to keep in mind both at once: if everything is bad there, then the suit will save, if everything is good there, then the suit will not hurt.
@Iamliam23: there could also be a theory that the suit itself or the air in the cylinders was poisoned, which is why everyone was falling. So there are a lot of possibilities here, you can't foresee everything.
One thing looks strange, in the last frame at the end you can see how the other bunkers are located close to each other, judging by their size there, this can't be inside.. Who understood, answer, when the mayor said "she understood everything" and ran to the server room, he ran to turn off the screen so that people wouldn't see that she was she able to leave, or did he turn off the projection of the living world in her helmet and thereby help her see reality so that she could figure out where next?
@AdenCastleTown: No, it's different there. In the second season they will show. Here we were shown that everyone saw how Jules went over the hill, and how the picture in the helmet refused to be projected.
@AdenCastleTown: ran away to see if it was possible to restore the hard drive, he was kind of surprised by the information about the door at the bottom of the bunker
@AdenCastleTown: The screens in the bunker are turned off through the cleaning room, and he ran to the office. apparently, the screen really disconnected her from the simulation. Most likely that all the bunkers are interconnected at the lower level, it will be cool if she then returns to her own through the bottom)
@AdenCastleTown: "She got it." This is probably about a fake projection. Or what is it...? (* when I saw this flight of birds, I sighed with regret) Her hand went through the stone and she put the sheriff's badge on the body (or next to it), which she did not see through her helmet. Perhaps the mayor ran to his room to look at the picture from the helmet camera. It looks like no one has gotten this far yet. He was interested to see for himself what was there. But what is strange. After all, if they did the projection, then he had to see it. And the view there was extensive. Apparently, this projection is also not their handiwork. And he didn't see it himself. That is, what is further behind the rise, all these bunkers and a metropolis on the horizon. Or vice versa, I ran to turn off this projection for her. But why ? If she survived, then let her not be deceived? Then the question is: why projection at all? To just die peacefully? This key of his is also interesting. And the hatch is under water. Perhaps these bunkers are all communicating at the levels below. Perhaps Juliet will come back through the hatch under water from another bunker.
@antigin: I think the projection was needed so that the cleaners would wipe the camera, because Jules is the first one who has not wiped in the whole history, as I understand
Yes, he most likely went to contact his superiors or other bunkers, it was clear there that the projection works for a certain distance and he realized that she would go further and see everything, which means that others need to be warned about the guest "from the outside"
@reddit: no, he knows everything. Watch out for the spoiler next. Don't read!
He left to open the door of bunker 18 with a key, the door to the room for the head, where there is a connection with other bunkers, or rather with bunker 1, he went to inform the main one.
@AdenCastleTown: I was looking for a paper one too. Not available anywhere. I think we should wait for a new batch) I've printed it out and am reading from the folder so far) I can't wait to buy it and put it on the shelf.
@reddit: It leads to another bunker. But then it's strange that its purpose was hidden - to interfere with the communication of people between bunkers in a post-apocalypse environment is nonsense. In general, we were intrigued)
@Tartugec: I have another theory: he suspected that Jules understood everything, but she could understand for one reason - the projection in the helmet did not work, and therefore he ran around to room 18 to check if everything was working there, whether the projection was transmitted.
@antigin: The picture on the screen in the bunker is real, the mayor knows this, because he knows about the projection in the helmet, he turns it on before cleaning in a special room number 18 (he has a key). "She understood everything" - this means that Jules saw the real world and the mayor understood it, and to make sure definitively, he ran to room 18 to check if the projection was working. It's just such a montage that the mayor first enters room 18, and then Jules's projection turns off - it feels like he turned off her projection, but why would he do that? It's a joint, I think.
@reddit: in the state in which the HDD was, and this is just a pancake with information, you will need absolutely the same HDD to rearrange the pancake into it, otherwise NOTHING will work
@antigin: Projection is needed for only one purpose. So that those who came out of the bunker could see this "beauty" hologram, and ran to wipe the lens, hoping that others below could also see it. All this is needed as an element of rallying people inside. In the last episode, there were remarks that when she was being led in shackles, for show, so that everyone could see how the justice system works. All the moods (of the guardians) or those who want change have subsided as much as possible.
@Iamliam23: He turns the key, and her hologram goes out. In that order. I have a theory, he did it so that she could see how deadly it was outside, and quickly ran back and died in front of the camera. After all, at this point he had not yet realized that their poisonous gas had no effect on her. But if she goes beyond the perimeter, then there will be unrest inside the bunker, which he is so afraid of. The second version is more fantastic. That he knocked out the projection so that she could go further, roughly speaking, without breaking her neck by falling and tripping over a stone, or falling from this ring-shaped mountain of sand. Who knows, maybe if he hadn't turned the key, there would have been just solid interference in her helmet, she wouldn't have seen anything beyond the radius of this hologram.
Actually, judging by his reaction. She had told him earlier about the five-meter door at the bottom of the bunker, maybe he didn't even know that there were other bunkers. And anyway, that there is at least something alive outside. That is, this is radically new information for him. This can be seen by the way he began to doubt and wanted to restore the broken disk himself.
And the reaction of his shadow is also interesting. Robert Sims. He definitely doesn't know anything about the outside world. How he reacted when they were shown a green landscape on TV. It's like his eyes lit up and maybe now he'll want to get to the truth. Considering that he has children and as a motive, their future will change.
@reddit: infa infa, but there's a writers' strike going on and an actors' strike is approaching, so no one can say with full confidence when it will come out
@guanchzhou: "Actress Rebecca Ferguson has confirmed that filming for Silo season 2 is currently underway and is not impacted by the writers' strike, as scripts were prepared in advance."
@Ackles: Unfortunately, the news is from the 7th, before the start of the Actors Guild strike on the 14th.
Now I have found only one recent note about the filming of the 2nd season of Silo, but this is not off-line news or from someone from the set. They wrote that despite the fact that filming is in England, most of the actors are from the USA, so they can't shoot now. And now a ray of hope. There was news that "House of the Dragon" and the Dune series continue to be filmed even after the start of the actors' strike, as filming takes place in the UK and the actors signed contracts with the local actors' union Equity to work on the series, which did not announce any strikes. Thus, if the actors of Silo work according to the same scheme, then it may well be that filming continues, but there is no official news yet.
@rueful_dream: I would say everything is very theatrical. There are many assumptions that are created only so that the plot can develop. But still it is worth noting the very high-quality work done on the series. Everything is at the highest level.
++++ The first two episodes were so cool, and then the plot began to develop at the level of the series of the 2000s, where the most interesting things are reserved for the last episode of the last season.
@rueful_dream: The most important thing in my opinion is that those who passed on relics and knowledge were simply killed because they destabilized society by believing in a fairy tale, and not persuaded. Wouldn't it be more effective to prove to them that they believe in a fairy tale, rather than kill them? That is, to make them good costumes, show them that there is a post-apocalypse, and then return them back - wouldn't they become law-abiding citizens after that? Not to mention that they would stop messing with people around)
@Iamliam23: so there would still be a lot of people who would want to go upstairs, even in suits, and find out what happened there at all, besides there are other bunkers there. In general, instability could clearly lead to. Yes, and it's more interesting anyway, in my opinion, actually that's what they are assumptions for.
@Yuronk: Well, this is a dangerous procedure, suddenly something will break and you will immediately die from radiation. Many people just won't want to check it personally, and those who want to, let them check, it's even better, there will be fewer troubles, a more stable society.
@rueful_dream: And wouldn't it be cooler if everything were really good outside, the projection would be faked on the screen (the idea that they throw at us from the first episodes), and people would be poisoned with gas contained in cylinders. Then there would be a point in the guardians of knowledge, the horsemen would look like real monsters, and the atmosphere of mystery would only increase.
As a result, it turns out that people are "cleaned" so that they do not muddy the water in the bunker, but in fact just because it is written in their charter. Because the water gets muddy after they're killed anyway. And no one in 140+ years has doubted the correctness and effectiveness of the cleaning idea.
@oldbk: what if each bunker lives by its own laws, each has its own charter, etc.? Somewhere there are intrigues and power struggles, but somewhere everything is calm. Such an extensive system of bunkers that the "founders" could, in principle, lay down different directions of development)
because the air is not suitable? does the duct tape save you? Then where did the corpses go? why didn't GG hide next to the water? a lot of questions, I'm waiting for the second season with impatience)
@maria_krukova: protective suits for the sheriff and his wife were made of low-quality materials that allowed polluted air to pass through, and she was sewn a high-quality suit that really protected her.
Really, it all depended on the quality of the materials… I thought they were poisoning them after all. Because the mayor was sure that she would not reach the tree, because the poison should work (or whatever it is)
@DiKEY999: I also thought they were deliberately poisoning them through an oxygen tank. But it turns out that everything is due to the fact that the tightness of the suit was bad, because of the duct tape. Duct tape solves)
Is this from somewhere in the infa books? Judging by what is seen in the series - rather, the previous "cleaners" did not know about the illusion and took off the helmet, which is why they died, she guessed and did not take it off I think there is an illusion made for this - a person goes out, takes off his helmet, dies, in the people inside the bunker a clear example of how not to do it
@Nmart17_: I can imagine how disappointed he was when he saw the real world and understood everything: that his wife believed in a fairy tale, that he believed in a fairy tale himself and also left bread crumbs for Jules so that she would reach out for him.
@maria_krukova: it seemed to me that the gas in the airlock was poisoning people, not the air outside. And just the time from the moment of "blowing out" to the moment when a person loses consciousness, the mayor knew about it. If the air outside is dangerous, how will Juliet survive, where will she go?
@AndreyChernyaev: I also thought about this, but with bad electrical tape it is confirmed, other theories can be excluded 100%, because if the air outside was poisoned or unsuitable, then they could simply not pump oxygen into the cylinder, pump it for a couple of minutes of life and that's it...
@abel-berg: with their help, the end of the world came. The nuclear weapons were only released so that people would be afraid and crawl into the bunkers. The rest of the nanobots cleared the ground.
@abel-berg: I watched the retelling of the books. I don't remember about the gas. And even if the gas does not cancel out the nanobots. They can be used to kill anyone on the planet anywhere in the world. Well, the meaning of the series is tied to them. The chapters are also put to sleep with the help of them
in general, it seemed to me that naniki are circling only near these shelters. Because in the book, if I'm not mistaken, it says that the dude saw green grass in the distance.
I really, really hoped that she would still get to the water at the bottom of the bunker and that she would come out there. It would be much more difficult and exciting) But in general, and through the main entrance came out well) I suppose at the same time I caused even more excitement among the watching people.
@JimfromIT: I also thought that something would happen to the door after all. But it seemed from the IT guy's face that he wasn't fumbling through that door at all...
@ShaMarinka: I thought for a moment that they wanted to diversify and let her go through the bottom, because there were no "anchors" for her to return here, if you know what I mean. But since Lucas was sent here to mine ore somewhere, probably the door at the bottom will be for him? Well, because there must be at least some connection?
@katcruel: That's right. It surprises me that he said to Juliet (I don't remember exactly how it sounded), at the end of the 8th episode. That it represents the most terrible threat for the entire existence of the bunker (we can say that it is existential). And yet it sends it for cleaning. After that, she ran away. She was caught and yet, he still sends her to clean up. It seems to be an unshakable belief in the "founding fathers" that they can't be wrong in principle. This faith let him down.🙂
I think he himself does not fully understand and has information about how everything really works. When he was sitting with a broken hard drive, an interest was read in his eyes: "but what is it really like? Is what I know true?" Maybe he sent her to the cleaners, knowing that she might learn something more than he did.
@nagichev: when Gloria (the conception consultant) hallucinated "on the seashore" and she was pulled out of there — it really looked the same as when the wheel is turned on Vision Pro)
Wow, how many of these bunkers are there Well, I thought there were more bunkers, because it would be strange to make one for only 10k people. Most likely, they either died in others, or the same Sims are sitting, or even a different formation and they are aware of the rest of the bunkers The only thing is that they are too close to each other, but okay
It turns out that from the very beginning we saw a green picture with birds generated for cleaners. But why did this video with birds appear on the general screen for a second when the electricity was turned off?
@fb1001495: there are problems with this picture in general. After all, when the last sheriff came out - as far as I remember, he saw his wife. And when the heroine came out, for some reason she did not see anyone's bodies. It's too weird. It seems that this moment has not been worked out.
@aitras: I guess I just don't remember anymore) But again, it turns out that the video is played purely on the helmet screen, a kind of vr helmet, and very serious and complex. The question arises - where did they get such technologies, if what was shown in the bunker is very primitive.
@lexastaw: Well , so we are not particularly aware of their real technologies , because on the one hand , archaic dull computers , and on the other , huge and clear screens on each floor and more modern people from the watchers .
Maybe there is a special wildest spread of technologies . The lower classes enjoy the benefits of society at the minimum available level, and the upper ones have Quake 2 on the ultras and they arrange champions on the network between the bunkers :)
In general, I mean that I correctly wrote something that was shown to us in the bunker from technology, but they could not show much. Just another element of deterrence. You see , they even have microscopes specifically banned , as well as many other things . That is, they intentionally slow down progress for something.
@FRFD: Yes, there is some kind of incomprehensible dissonance here. On the one hand, if everything is so bad, then on the contrary it would be more logical to promote progress. On the other hand, if everything is not so bad, then a developed society is quite unprofitable for power structures due to self-interest. And here it turns out that death is on the outside, inside some key elements have significant wear, but at the same time they are trying to crush scientific and technological progress... Why, why - who will explain? While I was writing, I came up with a no less fantastic version than the film itself.)) What if this is some kind of exclusion zone (after a nuclear war, for example (at first I thought about another planet altogether, but the ruins of the city were shown there, so it's unlikely)), to which "extra" people were sent in such a humane way to live out their lives. After all, after the nuclear war, a very small part of the Earth remained habitable and it was inhabited by the elites, and all the rest were sent to live out their lives in these bunkers. That's such a flight of fancy))
@lexastaw: It seems to me that such questions are intentionally (so far) not answered for the sake of intrigue and turnaround. I specifically tried not to read comments from those who have read books and openly spoiler the essence of the movement, but more responsive people try to keep the intrigue and interestingly (and evasively) answer that some of the questions will be answered for sure (if everything goes on in the book), including why, let's say, there is not a single elevator and everyone should run around the bunker on foot :) Also, apparently, they will answer questions later on why they deliberately slow down the development of technology (the improvised microscope was destroyed, although thanks to it it would be possible to save lives. Well, or rather, including thanks to him). Or why they cut off everyone who "digs deep" into the essence and blah blah blah)))
Ahahha 😸 aposly Fallout and hedgehogs with him , of course , something similar comes to mind that maybe these are experiments . Or there were thoughts about another planet, too. In general, I'm waiting for some other kind of direct hard turn. It's like in Cloverfield 10, for example, it was that You think there's one, and then it's over there! Or when you watch a TV series, it would seem, about one thing, and then SUDDENLY it turns out that You watched an illusion for a whole season and there you are in general in another (unless it's about 1899 recent).
In short, we are actively waiting for the continuation of yyyy 🐱
@FRFD: there is no elevator so that it is more difficult for people to communicate with each other, so that there is separation and those people who start thinking too much in the wrong direction where the founders need, do not go all over the bunker and spread their ideas and thoughts like a virus.
@Nmart17_: that's about the same as I understood from the comments, yes :)
Even in the series there was an illustrative moment when Ferguson became the new sheriff , she was teased about what she eats because for them the fact that she is from the bottom is akin to almost a person from another planet ahahaha 🌚 I exaggerate jokingly, but there was about such an essence :)
@lexastaw: lol dude, they created a whole bunker, there's a huge robocrot down there that digs holes, IT has cameras everywhere and 24/7 surveillance, aren't these technologies enough for you? You'll see more later. And technologies have already been said that they are prohibited and people are not allowed to know about them or even about primitive things. Then you will understand why they did this, everything is logically explained in the book)))
@Tartugec: Who are they? The film says more than once that the residents do not know who, when and why created this bunker and put them there. Accordingly, it was not created by the current residents of the bunker and not their immediate predecessors, at least. At the moment of the action of the film, they do not do anything supertechnological - from the word at all. About the cameras. Cameras are far from everywhere, and it's ridiculous to call them the crown of technology. Especially if you consider that the film did not say that they produce all this (as far as I remember, but only repair it), respectively, they use some kind of stock. And if they do not produce technology, then it is also stupid to say that they are technologically advanced. I.e., in fact, they only use a small set of heritage, they do not produce anything themselves and do not develop in any way in this matter. I did not say that they live like aborigines, but only said that they do not develop in this matter in any way. Yes, they can repair an already used generator, but they can't make a new one. As they can't do many other things. And those in power are doing everything for this. So those who created this bunker with all the "stuffing" had the technology. Those who live there now don't have them in the broad sense.
@lexastaw: they mean the creators, and the residents here. I just won't spoiler everything because I've read the books and I know the ending. And you just wait for the new seasons. Enjoy. The series is good
It is quite logical that they are afraid of progress, because progress helped to make a nuclear war and the conditions in which they now exist. And the conditions they made in the bunkers themselves stopped progress in order to maintain order so that a nuclear bomb would not turn out. Well, as a trap for the most curious, it's to go outside, thinking that there is something there, thereby keeping progress at the same level. Do not give birth to people with a good icq.
In fact, it turns into a prison for the continuation of the genus homosapiens at any cost until the appearance of life on the planet. As soon as life appears, the people who go to clean the camera will survive, which will give an impetus to the collapse of the existing rules.
Well, plus they repeatedly talked about the duct tape, which she illegally stole, too, for a reason)
@lexastaw: primitive technology is simpler and it makes sense to repair, the simpler the mechanism, the less likely it will break, you can live for about 200 years only on processing, but they still have mining, because over time, materials from processing deteriorate with impurities.
There are thousands of videos on YouTube where rusty diesels from the 1900s are launched by tapping on the engine, and the aluminum gasoline engine that was released after 2005 is just garbage after a run
It was not expected that everything turned out as for me, as it turns out there are a lot of bunkers. From the beginning, I thought that the door at the bottom of the bunker leads to some kind of emergency exit, etc., and now I think that it most likely leads to some neighboring bunker, but we probably won't find out about this until next season. I am happy with the series and I will wait for the sequel. 🤗
@Julie_Julia: the screenwriters are cranks, so she could have been protected in any niche of the hatches below, and it's even easier to catch her, you don't have to drop anything, but just open the hatch below and grab her ass!
I'm not really friends with physics, so correct me if something is wrong - a rapidly falling heavy air conditioner / fan accelerates faster than a falling body, and would catch up with it in the end, and not fall with a delay of a couple of seconds?)
@bezdelneg: No, gravity is the same for both Jules and the air conditioner... they are about the same in weight, the person is even heavier, so everything fits together... She could have made it
@10anya_d: body weight does not affect the speed of free fall. But other factors can. She just let go of the ladder before they kicked off the conde, and that's why she fell earlier.
@DFG39: So Juliet couldn't have gone to the engine room already. Bernard told her, they say, anyway, don't you regret that you agreed to the position of sheriff, you could be sitting in the engine room right now
@HoldenWisdom: I'm not tied to this story. Alternative plot: 1-4 household, she finds a disk, 5 learns the "truth", gets a book, opens the disk in grandma's room, 6 GG runs away, grandma is caught and sent to clean up and they show us the world, 7-9 learns secrets, rewrites information from the disk and goes to the machine room, 10 finds the door. In parallel, you can throw secret rooms, videos of the creators of the bunker, granny's trip to another bunker, etc.
They could have been better and more interesting, 3-4 episodes are interesting in the original plot, the characters are not interesting at all, why should I take their side, why do I care about the stargazer.
@faceloveme: but about four dozen individuals are so much in admiration that even the thoughts of a seditious one cannot admit that for someone this is quite a dull mediocrity. Yes, it would not hurt to also be familiar with the literary content, since some things are explained by the author, but still - it's pretty depressing, and the author has thrown out his very narrow-minded vision of the existence of mankind, plus his target audience is mom's cooltshackers, for whom IT (so that under this it was not understood) - the center of the universe, around which everything revolves. So the author sings the praises of this impersonal and ephemeral IT, completely not understanding the essence.
@MarkRaffer: why can't thoughts allow it? They just didn't like the comment, the usual thing You don't have a particularly healthy reaction to other people's tastes.
@Yuronk: because they can't... Obviously, the life! And if these are the most alien tastes that like excrement and other feces, then why are they trying to impose these tastes on others, while these very others are chewing literally on their fingers, explaining that feces are feces. But you like it, don't you?
@MarkRaffer: maybe nothing is chewed up in the comment, the dude offers some very crude version of the script and that's it. Dislikes are not an imposition of taste, but an expression of one's attitude to a comment.
Your comparison about excrement and feces is obviously incorrect.
So I only see completely unmotivated aggression on your part, go there, I don't know, have a rest or do something else
@Yuronk: yes, how wrong it is when it is very much in the subject! All Hugh Howie's writing is just a dull G., but the film adaptation is even worse. It's just for the alternatively gifted removed with an IQ of 70 and below. If you are excited about this TV product, then how should I treat you?
@MarkRaffer: well, you're already a pretty pathetic and unimaginative troll, even writing, except for negativity and baseless insults, nothing at all. Does it really give you pleasure to write this? Are you asserting yourself somehow? Are you raising your self-esteem? Well ok what
@Yuronk: well, I won't stop you from feeling excited about this TV channel, which I put in the category a long time ago. I stopped watching it, but for some reason you tagged me and started dumping your incontinence. Therefore, listen to the advice - from now on - you do not need to do this! Smear yourself with feces, but don't involve others in it, OK?!
I don't know where so many dissatisfied people are from, in my opinion this is one of the most solid projects of recent times, where you can only dig into a couple of serial conventions.
For me, a sign of quality is when the season finale reveals at least some basic secrets and sets the stage for the next ones, and not like from the Outside, for example.
@AtomicTroll: Fixing the generator, falling in the garbage chute - this is the "Spanish shame" that greatly spoiled the viewing experience. And not to mention the fact that the series after the 2nd series floated in dynamics and logic. The series is not bad, but not top. 6/10 maximum. The same "Separation" looked much more cheerful.
@AtomicTroll: life from the outside. Why are people whining that the ending is so-so, for me, "Wow" and the answers gave a new storyline, and not as in the above-mentioned series 😅😅
The thread about the bunker, separation and from the outside - I just want to stay here)) for some reason, they are not the most popular TV series, but for me they are some of the most interesting in recent years, albeit contradictory.
It's so hard to comment after reading two books! And I was wondering if the rest of the bunkers would show up or not, but they're great! And it was so beautifully and simply shown how Jules guessed that the picture was fake! The food is filled with delight, even though the picture is a little blurred after the books - still, the "display" in the text has more scope than the display on the screen. I'm really looking forward to the second season. The best TV series of the year after all, but not without a book (because I'm so impatient, yes).
@kingforthesirens: can you tell me where there is a translation of the third book in the series, I read somewhere that it continues the plot of the first two in the Silo series?
@klmvira1: The series ended on page 150 of the first book approximately. There are as many more about further events in the first book alone. And there are 3 books.
@fb1198559: I read it, but I probably wouldn't now if I knew what emotions would be left. What would you understand is that the cleaners on the helmet screens are shown the wrong picture in the book, they said after the first 5 pages. Also, after a couple of dozen more pages about specially degraded electrical tape, so that all the cards are almost immediately on the table and there is no room for guesswork. Everything is also about all the other types of secrets - the author reveals them after a couple of dozen pages. If you plan to watch and enjoy the series, watch and wait, the series is better than books, which is very rare.
@fb1198559: the books are great, I advise you to read them) I started after watching the first episode of the series and did not regret it. You will find many more answers than the commentator wrote above. I'm sorry, but it's like he didn't even finish reading the first book.
@alexhvs: I have expressed my value judgment, if you do not agree with it, you should not try to belittle it by guessing what I read there and what I did not. I read both the first ones in Russian and the third one in English, just because I wanted to put the dots on it. If you have an average cliched dystopian detective story in a very mediocre translation, it has caused such delight... Well, then) No one cared about the series, just like me, and the fact that the publisher stopped publishing at the time, even without translating the 3rd part, once again confirms everything I said.
@_Slimper: You're the one judging me now) I've obviously read more than 300 books in my life, everyone has different tastes, but I love such genres, and this does not mean that I'm such a bad person who liked the "average cliched dystopian detective story") It is clear that among the many readers there will be those who do not like the same Robin Hobb or Tolkien, it is impossible to please everyone. I just got caught up in the fact that there are still more answers in the first book than you mentioned. If only because the first season contains only half of this very first book) Be kind, people will reach out to you.
I'm sorry that you got such an interlocutor. It's necessary to remain so impolite after reading SUCH authors. Silo hasn't read it yet. But the desire arose! I just wanted to support you here.
@fb1198559: I started reading books and would have regretted if I had known that there was no ending in Russian and there didn't seem to be any plans to translate it. And now just sit there without an ending. And the most annoying thing will be if the series is not brought to an end, with such a pace of narration (roughly speaking, they showed us the beginning of book 1 in 10 episodes), it will be fun, neither here nor there (
@10anya_d: well, I already understood the meaning from the comments on the Internet, those who read and explained the ending in 2 words, but still I want to fully immerse myself in the text and find out the smallest details and questions for myself and preferably not miss anything, I really liked the line with Donald from the 2nd book, and I want to understand what is happening to him and how he survived.
@_Slimper: You're not communicating everything correctly to people. The author shows you the cards like a spiral bunker, closes one question, and then another appears. If it wasn't interesting, you wouldn't have finished reading it. You didn't like the ending during the course, did you want the end of the world?)))
@Nmart17_: and the meaning of books is if there are already retellings on YouTube videos. In 15 minutes, they'll chew everything up and tell you, and there are even inserts from the series))
@Tartugec: Are you trying to show off deduction too? It didn't really work out. Okay, I understood and heard your message in the comments. I'll answer in detail, it's not difficult for me, maybe I'll prove something to someone. The book is average, with 5 points out of 10. It was more or less interesting to read, but without a doubt, the translation spoiled a lot, it was hard to read the original, I hadn't read it in English for a long time, and it was clearly written more complicated than Harry Potter. I can't begin to evaluate it in the original, but it also feels sluggish. The ending is ordinary, the same as the book. You're saying here that the author reveals something there and throws the next "kind of secret". Let's figure out what and where I've already seen and what secrets I should have been impressed by. Even in the opening sequence of the series, the steps themselves turn into a DNA spiral, which means that it is immediately clear that the bunker was originally conceived as a eugenic experiment, as in the series "Ascension" obviously, I have already compared this thing with that one. The same thing was said in the book in plain text somewhere towards the end of the 2nd part. The bunkers were built by evil Omerican genius but evil multi-billionaire politicians)))) Immediately after leaving the bunker, there will be a small intermediate death zone, beyond which there will be a wonderful new world, as in every second bunker movie starting with the Sex Mission)))) There are SUDDENLY 50 bunkers, as in every second anime about the apocalypse, well, they explained it with stars on the flag. Fuck, do I really need to continue? Or was I seriously supposed to gasp at their secret rooms with the radio, the organizers of this slag in suspended animation, who, like at a racetrack, want to keep one filly out of 50, the best? Or nano-killer robots and stuff?) Here, the secondary rides the piano and drives the whole thing cliche. Stop messing with me and take my word for it - it's an awesome series and a mediocre book, you can read it, but if you don't read it, you won't lose anything. You and the commenters above are just proving to me, and to other knowledgeable people, how little you've read of worthy things.
@_Slimper: What kind of deduction? You're the one who's writing that you haven't mastered books. I even stopped reading you after those lines. Don't do any bullshit
Since you've gone all out, can you please write a spoiler description of the plot based on the books?) Judging by your description, I'm honestly too lazy to read this stuff, even though I have no problems with English.
@Uzieller: No, I'm not going to retell the plot here. ABC has started republishing the series, and the first two have already been released, and the third should be translated soon. And you can read the plot on the Internet - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silo_ (series), but I already advised you to just watch the series, don't spoil yourself.
@It_is_different: I assume that it's problematic to make one megabunker, and it's unrealistic to maintain it, so we made a city-type system that communicates (through the doors below). This particular No. 18 was isolated due to groundwater even before the "mutiny", so it followed its own development system. and in the rest of the system, the world of the future and technology is possible.
Everything is cool, but why do you need a picture of a good world? Are they writing to motivate you to clean up? But why create such mysteries, as if motivating the characters to dig up that everything is "kind of ok"? Isn't it easier, on the contrary, to show a real picture of the end of the world, so that everyone is afraid, doesn't go anywhere and isn't looking for anything? Why create such a conspiracy theory, which in itself leads to the fact that people start to rebel?
@bucket_man: as an option, this is so that the "cosmonauts", seeing that everything is really bad, do not rush back. Since they went outside, they could "get infected" and bring this "infection" inside. As it is, they died happily there. And everyone in the bunker actually sees the real picture, so they don't stand in droves at the exit. Well, there will always be conspiracy theorists, that's the way people's psychology is. Moreover, when things appear that they cannot explain to themselves (and others too), they begin to interpret everything the way they want. Plus distrust of the authorities. Because they have secrets anyway, which is why even when they tell the truth, they are not trusted.
@lexastaw: the book explains the situation when the cleaner wants to stay in the lock or go back - there, some time after closing the door, argon burns in the lock, which is pumped there. In the series, I noticed the sooty walls of the airlock, but they didn't seem to specify about it.
@DEHiCKA: So what? They can rush in and ask to go back, which will show everyone that everything is really bad there. And if they ask for it back, especially those who had authority (the same sheriffs), then people may feel sorry for him and start a riot to let him back in. Or someone who conducts the procedure will open it. And everything like that.
@aitras: got it, thanks) However, it turns out that it doesn't burn there all the time, which means in theory they can let it back in. At least, I didn't see in the movie that the system only works for release and technically you can't go back.
@Чучело-Мяучело: Mmmm, you've learned the boiling point, class. Now it's time to find out how boiling differs from gorenje, it is also an oxidation reaction. At the same time, read how INERT gases are oxidized, and whether they have oxides in principle. PS. About welding. It does not occur with argon, but IN THE ARGON ENVIRONMENT. Guess why? Hint: it has to do with its relation to oxidation, yeah.
@Чучело-Мяучело: The topic of the eighth grade of the school is absolutely not interesting and easy, you don't have to worry. And why was there an absurd claim that I did not understand the principles of welding, even in the context of argon? What was that supposed to mean?
@serg_as: The main thing is that the "juvenile morons" do not classify us as "senile old people", they can.You don't really consider yourself that way.
@id753261880: Actually, that was the point of the ma'am, and it almost came out of a bearded joke... and it is used as an admission of the lack of knowledge mistakenly attributed to the respondent, or as a counterargument or justification in response to "Monsieur knows a lot about perversions."
@bucket_man: we cannot understand this, because the author of the book and the screenwriters reflect their lives and ideology, they are imbued with it, it was not murderers or outcasts who left there, it was enough to say, I don't remember, I'm leaving or I want to leave... In short, Vita needs to get out((( and that's it! According to the idea of the authors, those who could no longer stay in the bunker left, they came out, saw the illusion, wiped the camera so that everyone could see how far they were and ran joyfully to the embankment. According to the author's idea, it was very cleverly thought out, and we even translated the name of the series without meaning, Silo is a grain storage, such high concrete towers near elevators, etc. there in the series, where you don't dig, you'll come across similar allusions, well, to male autocracy, to the crypto state and to a strong woman who does, Well, everyone saw what she was doing, in real life it would be stopped right away.
In order for the cleaner to take off his helmet and die, thereby showing everyone that life outside is impossible. Residents will not rebel and create chaos.
@bucket_man: So the whole irony is NOT to READ the SPOILER further.
that this is a real picture of the world. It's just that there's such a squalid world around the bunkers for some distance and nothing grows. Because of the nanorobots
did you notice how Bernard was surprised at the mention of the door at the bottom of the bunker? isn't he aware of everything himself? and then he looked so strangely at the broken plate of the hard drive, as if regretting that he would not find out what was on it. well, also pay attention when they show a field of bunkers there, in addition to the ruins of the city, you can see some kind of wall with towers. a protective perimeter? and I wonder where the main entrance is in these bunkers, because it's unlikely that all 10 thousand people came through this obviously emergency exit at the police station, and even with supplies.
@iken: I think the disk in the bag has already been replaced by Grandma and Jules while there was a minute. Some trash can is broken, the real one may be intact.
@DarkPhoenix: it is unlikely that they were replaced. Because the 18 stamp on the disc was clearly visible in the frame, they didn't have time to forge it in a couple of minutes.
@iken: well, it's unlikely through the subway, if you take the floor height at least 4.5 m, and there are 144 of them, you get 650 meters, plus stairs to the top.
@skagerrak: Why not? there are no other exits from the outside, so perhaps the door that leads to some tunnels, according to the drawings, may be the exit to the railway connecting all the bunkers, which goes somewhere beyond the perimeter, for example to the same city. If the founders were able to dig up so many bunkers, then it would be easy to add a couple more small tunnels under the transport system.
I had a very pleasant impression of the series. What you can 't take away from the Apple series is a stylish sexy picture. Even when something boring happens in the series, it's the most delicious thing that will look juicy and mouthwatering. I've watched the season and I just want to instantly turn on another series with the same picture. The servant has already seen it, so we need to go on a search :))
The ending is good, I'm waiting for the second season and I pray that Jesus doesn't cut me off before the release of the second season of Silo and Severance :з
P.S. I sincerely hope that this was not the final lip bite from Ferguson and she will return in the middle of the second season. :*
@id70201890: but by the way, it didn't even cause me gorenje at all :))) Either one or the other is just a classic convention, and that's all. There are a lot of things that piss me off in TV shows, but this is something that is completely missing.
@tuk13tuk: I don't even know about that. I didn't have any questions at all. I understand that for the epicness and beauty of the picture, that's all :)
@FRFD: How did I hurt you?? Be sure to write when and under what series did I offend you? I won't say for sure, but there are your comments almost under the TV series of 2018. Why are you doing this, I don't understand? Why are you blocking the opportunity to rate your comment?, I don't understand this?, please explain.
Are the residents of the bunker completely amorphous? A picture with green trees was displayed on all the screens, but no one blew a mustache. I thought there would be an uprising, people would massively ask to go outside or at least come with questions to the mayor. No one noticed? And those people in the server room who saw it for sure - did they really get affected by "let's close our eyes and erase our memory"? How did she survive the fall in the garbage chute?? And they also dragged her away so quickly, as if they knew about her in advance. Why was the "Stargazer" sent to the mines, and what kind of mines are these, by the way? Is this such a revenge? Well, the main mess with duct tape, can someone explain without spoilers? We were told for half a season that she stole duct tape - why, why? Did she know in advance that the duct tape was cooler there? What did Jules say to Grandma in those few seconds that they were alone? And is it really one tape (a foil cap) that protects from "bad air"? Wouldn't it be easier to make a spacesuit with holes right away?
@oniXtacie: By the way, I double the question about the green video on the screens. Did no one really get to see it, or was it left for the next season?
I haven't read the book, but apparently the fear around duct tape in my youth was that they were afraid she would figure out that the cleaning tape was deliberately poor. But she only realized in the finale (Grandma realized a little earlier) Does electrical tape save you? Well, yes, that's quite possible in theory. It's needed to seal the seams, but it should have enough air for a couple of minutes at least, I think. It's for them that she'll probably have time to drop into the next bunker, where everything has been extinct for a long time, but the ventilation will probably be in working order for some reason. Well, it seems so to me :)
@oniXtacie: One day, when they ran out of electrical tape, she took electrical tape from IT specialists because she needed to repair something. After using it "for other purposes", she found out that the electrical tape was lousy and was not suitable for repair work. From this, it was concluded that 2 types of electrical tape are made in the bunker, one for workers who are good and the other "for other purposes." Therefore, during the manufacture of the costume, the electrical tape was secretly replaced with a good one and it survived. As for the projection on the screen, well, it just wasn't in the book. That's right, the gun that will shoot in the second season is understandable for what it was filmed, but of course it's like that.
@Vescero: Are you sure you've read the book? Or were you scrolling diagonally? There was a story in the first book about a program that replaces images on small screens with a pixel resolution just the size of a cleaner's helmet screen. The letter that Scotty wrote and was read by Jules and Walker.
@_Slimper: They wrote about it in the book, yes, you're right about that. But this picture in the book was not projected onto everyone's screens, as they wrote in the comment above, which you found fault with.
@_Slimper: You've already answered for me below, so I don't think there's any point in answering anymore. But okay, no one hacked any terminals in the book, no one displayed any projections on the screens, no one found any hard drive, even initially it did not exist at all. There was only a program that was restored by the wife of the former sheriff. Later, Juliet's friend helps her find out what kind of program it is, moreover, as you have already written yourself, this program is NOT INTENDED for large screens, but for a small screen that can only be in front of your eyes. Therefore, the previous commenter wondered why everyone ignored the projection shown on large screens throughout the bunker. It just wasn't in the book. Read less diagonally.
@Vescero: Of course, there's no point in answering anymore, but I'll add a short paragraph. Logically. And I express my thoughts clearly, not diagonally, why are they writing me some kind of bullshit.
About the people in the server room who were told they would forget: this may be a reference to the fact that the keepers were given some kind of water, from which they forgot the stories they were supposed to preserve. Maybe Bernard just knows they'll forget. 😅
At the beginning of the series, theories began to creep in that this was not a bunker, but a spaceship. Although this would be secondary, there have already been several such projects in recent years
@MrPаndа: "1883". It just turns out that I've spoiled the main "watershed", since you haven't watched ( And the series ends at the most interesting place, and the second season was canceled. So I don't know if it's worth watching. Although I personally liked it so much that I'll probably even review it sometime.
I watched episode 10 in one go, but I missed it a bit at the end of the drive. Somehow sluggishly, we were shown an episode of a sortie and a picture of the world outside the bunker. The mystery of the installation, which was next to the water, remained unsolved. The question of why there are no lifts in such a bunker is not closed. Initially, I thought that they were actually being strangled in these costumes on purpose. By the way, I still haven't seen the bodies of the sheriff and his wife clearly. The question arises, having access to the disk, why other files have not been viewed, but only this picture of nature, apparently also to confuse. After all, this is essentially a projection picture, and they all hoped that this picture was true. I'm really looking forward to the second season, I don't even know how to start reading books, just not to be disappointed.
@Katrin_90: @EkaterinaTurina: The installation next to the water is a rotary excavator, drawn creepy for the sake of futurism. His task is to develop the rock, so he dug this "glass" under the bunker. And there were not enough resources to lift it back up, or it was not a task at all. This, if not word for word, is what Wilkins tells Juliet when he brings her there for the first time. There are no lifts in the bunker for the same reasons that magnifying lenses are prohibited - an obvious veto on technology. As for the bodies, look at the screenshots. On the upper body of Holston and his wife in "their" place. At the bottom is a frame from the panorama around Juliet. Here they cheated with the prospect - the bodies are lying behind a tree relative to the bunker chamber and not in such a romantic pose as on the screen - Holsten did not have time to touch his wife. But it's definitely two spacesuits.
@Katrin_90: nenenen, there are bodies there because they showed her twice in the background how she clearly felt the sheriff's leg with her hand and jerked in horror because there was a clearing in the picture from the helmet, and she bumped into something with her hand. In short, I explain it may be strange, review this scene again and you will see :) Once it was coolly shown right in the background in the background, and the second time it was a little closer and more obvious. Actually, why did she "go through" this "hologram" and put his badge on the sheriff's body?
I think it was purely for the sake of the beautiful scenario that they showed that they decided to watch only this largest file . Naturally, against the background of the general conspiracy theory, they decided that this was a video of reality, and not the picture that was somehow transmitted to the screen. Even if you think about it, they simply didn't have time to look at other files, plus they were shocked by the open truth.
@FRFD: But George had the opportunity to see everything. It turns out that there is nothing on the disc about the real picture, since he said to watch this file.
@DEHiCKA: Wait, but yes.. So either he wasn't very bright, or he deliberately tipped her off, or he thought she would understand everything and have time to look at other files, or the writers missed this moment . 🤭
@FRFD: it seems that at first, when the disk was hacked, he was looking through the files and there were a bunch of floor plans of the bunker, and then he came across this🤔 I mean, it's a disk with useful information about the bunker's design and this file with a picture that needs to be uploaded to the outside. And the secrets themselves, explanations, or the history of the foundation and why it was all arranged there and not on it, I think the disk had the wrong purpose.
@alesenok: Maybe they didn't tell us or show us who highlighted what information from the disc (except Ferguson, of course, because we follow her in the series yyyy). Maybe there are ten gigs of text information on it, describing everything, because this disk, for example, belonged to the most important person in the bunker and he knew everything. Or maybe the only important thing is these drawings , a video for an illusion with nature , and the actual distribution kit with Quake 3 and a pack of maps for playing online between bunkers yyyy
@FRFD: this recording, which is being played in helmets, is from a SPOILER that you CAN'T READ ANY FURTHER FROM the real world, it's just that nothing grows around the bunkers and there are reasons for that
@Raych: I think this is it. There were rumors about a film adaptation this summer and a bunker is being filmed here. I think the different bunkers that were shown to us are analogs of "storages" in which people live who do not understand that they are participants in some kind of experiments. And the "elites" who live in the city on the horizon are watching everything.
It's interesting to finish, so it seems that you understand how it will end approximately and still look with expectation what will happen. A little surprised with the projection of the picture. And the theft of duct tape was not just carried around all season, it was suspicious, but it did not give any guesses. There is a great desire to read the book, but on the other hand, it seems better to watch this series without knowing the plot in advance.
Oh, she came out after all! I thought she would refuse to put on a spacesuit, or start taking off her helmet in the vestibule.. or he'll take a marker with him and write something on the camera... It is clear that the picture in the helmet was a lie... but it was also unexpected that the world really died out and there is no way to live there yet... Finally, the two of them, Sims and the mayor, an IT specialist, found out that everything had not gone according to their plan... especially the moment with the cleaning sponge.. Well, it's time to visit the neighbors)
@KostyaDyachenko: There is no catch. The world is really uninhabitable, all the previous cleaners died prematurely due to fucking isolation, intentional or accidental. That's how Jules has no chance of surviving on her own either, unless she can get into the next bunker.
A cool twist with what seemed to be true, and the finale! Straight did not disappoint the series at all. Joy) We are waiting for season No. 2 about the life of Bunkers, which are well soooo near. Literally through the wall.
@youhospital: I wonder which one she'll be in next
A stupid question, most likely, but those who are closer to her bunker, in order to tell or find a way out at the bottom of the bunker themselves, assumed that they had seen other bunkers and would return to their bunker through it and either tell everyone the truth about the real world or else, which is unknown, change the government and so on
@Гева: Her suppliers gave her a good protective suit, which does not allow infected air to pass through. Plus, the seams were sealed with duct tape. So she runs there longer than the rest of the "cleansed" ones. Sort of like that.
Super mega cool TV series! They know how to shoot! It brought as many emotions as "Separation". Both the atmosphere and the musical accompaniment are all in the theme! And so, it turns out, there is an endless field of bunkers and they are all interconnected by passages underground. The city on the horizon is where all the answers are hidden, and that's where Juliet should strive.
@Sheckter: I read on Reddit that the city is Atlanta, and the plus was a travel book about Georgia. As it is, there is nothing to look for in this city, it has been standing for 140 years, most likely everything has rotted a long time ago, even the buildings themselves fell apart.
I'll say this, I read all the books, and the series ended only in the first half of the first book. I won't spoil it. I 'll just say that a lot of interesting things are waiting for us . And since they are filming, it will be another season five. Well, in general, very well shot. So even though I know what will happen next, I will wait for the second season with impatience.
@MeTa1cOrE: Well, frankly, it was stretched out, at least at first they kept the intrigue, in the second half of the season the development of events is very slow.
@Raven_Kaosa: Yes, there's nothing much to explain here, when a person is kicked out into the cold, they specially use a leaky tape of poor quality, and the one that the suppliers slipped in is reliable, which the repairmen use, therefore it's better not to use a shitty one for repair work, and the bunker can cover up))).
@CatherineR: it seems to you that it has been explained. There was actually electrical tape protecting it from the other. And not from poisonous gas, as many people here think, or bad ecology in the world)))
The idea of helmet displays is kind of pointless. It seems that according to the idea, the founders did this so that the cleaners would be filled and want to clean the lens, like otherwise no one would agree, because everyone refuses until they go outside. But what's the point if the bunker is full of ideological people who can be sent to clean these lenses anyway. In general, the logic was prescribed, of course, but it was very far-fetched. Wasting scarce state-of-the-art displays that produce such a realistic picture in order to clean the lens.... Have the founders not heard about the wipers?
@rois: There are a lot of such strange moments in the original material, as far as I understand. On the other hand, what apocalyptic story does not have strange ideological turns from the point of view of any adequate person?
@rois: Well, the ideological ones will come out once, they won't be allowed back in, because you can pick up anything on the surface. The ideological ones will end there, or they will stage their own rebellion - let our ideological one in, he's doing well. Not every ideological person is ready to go to death.
@rois: this axiom is also confusing. A man goes to his death, comes out, sees a projection, runs to "show everyone", that is, to clean the viewfinder. Then he falls dead into the camera's field of view and smoulders there for hundreds of years. And next time, it will definitely happen again, because that's how it's meant to be.
I gave this episode the highest score of all the episodes of the season that I watched. Cool, the episode was very suspenseful. Rebecca Ferguson is smart, she plays very well, you believe and empathize with her. A decent end to the season, very much looking forward to the second season!
It turned out to be a good season and the creators finished it very well. Well, once again they confirmed that real engineers can fix anything with the help of electrical tape 😂😂😂
Well, it's a cool series so far. I read the books after the first episodes, so I'm still getting high, maybe I'll even review them before the next season is released. As for the series, I really liked the actors, I watched it in the original, so I felt the norms of their acting, not an Oscar, but very good. Will the following books be affected? Or will they finish on the first one? Let's see. Because the first book is no longer famous, it's a mystery, you think what's hiding up there. It's already clear that we've finished half the book, and the next season should be a good one, because a lot of what's hidden is revealed there.
@aitras: tell me, please, in what order to read books? I found this comment:
"The Silo series got its name only after the release of the second cycle of short stories called Shifts. First, Howie released one short story called Wool — literally "Wool". Then, when the story became wildly popular, readers begged him to continue, which the author did, adding four more novellas. And this whole cycle was called Wool. By the way, the name of almost every novel has something to do with knitting (hmm, a pun turned out). And then the author added a kind of prequel — how it all began and how it all continues in parallel with the events in Wool. He called this cycle of three big stories Shifts. The first of them was called First Shift — Legacy (the 6th part of Silo series (Wool)) — that's what a monstrous name. That's when it was necessary to combine the series under a common name, and then the whole thing got the name Silo. Summing up. The first cycle of five novellas is called Wool, the third cycle of three novellas is called Shifts and the last chat of this monster is a full—fledged novel called Dust. And all this is now called The Silo Cronicles. But no one has canceled the names of individual cycles included in the full series. "
On the filibuster there are these: 1. The bunker. Illusion (per. Andrey Vadimovich Novikov) 2. The bunker. Shift (Andrey Vadimovich Novikov lane)
@D333: Well, wool is also a reference to the idiom "to pull the wool over someone's eyes" — to hide the truth from someone, to deceive. Which makes sense in a "world" where camera sensors are wiped with a woolen cloth.
@D333: Illusion, then Change, then Dust. All these "Purifications" are an amateur translation of an Illusion. Dust is only in the original, because it has not been officially translated, and as far as I know, there are no amateur translations either.
The series is great, the finale is cool, there are no questions except one: what the fuck kind of beard does a bad Negro have!? It is a huge shopping center in terms of area, in terms of growing not downward, but upward! It seems that his whole face is bearded, and he, unfortunately, shaves his little embrasure.
When she realized that a recording was being shown in the spacesuit, I thought that they weren't really being released anywhere at all, but were simply being sent to an empty room and poisoned with something. But after she found the corpse of the former sheriff, her doubts were dispelled. I really liked the series, I wonder what will happen next)
I didn't get any books at all: either the translation is the problem, or the narrative style is not mine. 🤷♀️ But for now, hiatus, I'll try to read in the original, maybe it will go better, the world is interestingly designed, we need to find an approach to it.
And the series is quite successful. Of course, there are questions (generator! and so on.), but there is an intrigue, the picture is good. Rebecca Ferguson is a beauty.
Bravo, Apple TV! They didn't let me down. I was very worried about how the film adaptation would turn out. As we watched the first season, it felt like a lot of changes had been made compared to the books. But in the end, everything, albeit in other ways, resulted in all the same events as in the original source. And all the innovations for filling screen time are very skillfully executed and harmoniously complement the plot. At first, there was a feeling that the series took the structure of the original source, namely, it planned 3 seasons, but season 2 of the series, apparently, adapts the second half of the first book. So there are a lot of seasons planned.
@Do4_Samuraya: The events of the book and the series are practically the same. Unless the suspense is better developed in the series, apparently in order to make it interesting to watch all 10 episodes. The events of the first season of the series cover only three parts of the first book (Holston, The Right Choice, Exile). And if you're not interested in rereading them, then start with the fourth part of the first book (Exposure).
@Do4_Samuraya: if you take it GLOBALLY, it's not that they differ directly. Sheriff Holston and his wife went out, Juliette went out, there are 50 bunkers, the world outside the bunker is unsuitable for existence, fake greenery is shown to cleaners. But if you take at least some details, then EVERYTHING is different there, starting from the many actors and the connections between them. And Juliet is a little smarter in the book than in the TV series.
I hope the book explains everything better. If the bunkers are almost side by side, as they do not know about the existence of each other, it is not clear, but it is trivial if they have shafts, then bunkers may already come into contact with them, even if the walls of the bunker are thick with good sound insulation. The final twist is a little strange, well, the duct tape saved from air leaks, but in general, there is little air in the cylinder (at least the one that was shown in the series) and it's good if it's enough to reach another bunker. Overall, the series intrigued me, so much so that I've already started reading the book because I can't stand waiting that long.
@komutator: one of the basic rules of the bunker is that it is forbidden to drill into the sides, but this will be discussed in the second season. And this is not something like a spoiler, since all the bunkers have already been shown and everyone already knows that there are many of them and they are relatively close.
@Songeur: Before the door appeared there, and even more so the water – they were drilling just right :)) And then, apparently, they got bored and tied up with this case. At some point, they decided to separate from the rest of the bunkers and flooded this case. This is my suggestion, not a conditional fact from a book or something :)
Perhaps in other bunkers there will be other vaccinations and laws, for example, no one is kicked out into the cold on demand, and you can most likely get to your neighbors through those gates at the bottom and they were flooded due to a conflict with other bunkers.
It's a pity the narration is very slow. As I understand it, the entire season 1 is only half of the first book. I can't stand waiting for the second season, I'll have to read books.
And until the last moment, I was sure that they would replace the electrical tape with a "bad" one, which she would pick out with a needle from the token, I had never been so wrong before.
something Apple has gone headlong into series about a closed group. bunker/train/sect/blindness... and it's kind of interesting, but lately it's not so new and exciting. the main events of the whole season can be contained in one or two episodes. I hope the sequel will be more dynamic because it turned out to be interesting anyway
It's a good series, it was shot with high quality, the actors are generally top. I couldn't resist reading the book - I hoped to the last that they would change everything in the series to surprise the viewer (not like in the walking dead, but quite the opposite), but it's also good.
The most important thing is the feeling of the series. If we compare, for example, with Last of Us (specifically as an example, because it was new), then the situation was exactly the opposite - all the characters there, Joel and Ellie, and an adult lesbian who courted young Ellie, and Joel's brother, and the fireflies - were all scum and bastards. who have done bad things and participated in vile events. It's like watching a Balabanov movie. Here we have a creepy bunker, some conspiracies, misunderstandings, omissions, some dudes "press" the townspeople - but at the same time all the characters are positive and kind. The mayor, played by a brilliant actor, is in the boat with everyone in the same way and does not pursue his own bad goals, but cares about the welfare of the bunker, Sims - Common is also not a villain at all. They cannot be directly considered scoundrels. If you want to get out of the bunker, please, they'll even give you a suit (of some kind), and they'll also ask you to wipe the camera with a rag. Some kind of goody-goody or soy villains. The series has earned an unequivocally positive review.
But I'm tormented by questions: where are the others who got out before the sheriff and his wife? Why are they lying together? Where are all the bodies?
I expected a lot, I built a lot of theories. But the last shots are just shaking It's a pity, of course, that now I have to wait a minimum year for the sequel, but this is definitely one of the best Sai Fais in recent times And yes, Rebecca Ferguson is just something with something.
God, this is just an amazing episode, how I liked their fucking faces when Jules didn't fall like everyone else, but went on, it's called: scared, no, shit himself😅 That is, there are many such bunkers and some kind of catastrophe has really happened to the world🤔 or they can control the picture even outside the bunker, because the picture changed only when he turned the key... in short, there are a lot of questions and I'm looking forward to the second season to find out the answers to them!!! I really hope I hope that the second season will be released as soon as possible, because the series turned out to be just fantastic and I don't want to part with it for a long time.🔥
@NickPaulson: The picture didn't change because Bernard turned the key... It was just that Jules had gone further beyond the projection, where there was no point in continuing her, because the cleaners were already dying by that time.
The mayor probably ran to warn the other bunkers to turn off the street view at their canteens so that people would not see the cleaner from another bunker. Another question is why the mayor ordered the staff to turn away when there was a projection on the screens?
I read the book, but since I don't remember a damn thing anymore, except for the main idea, it means that the book turned out to be not particularly impressive to me. So let's get the fuck up to the show.
1. What was the point of cleaning this camera? I mean, you're sitting in this bunker and you see everyone coming out and cleaning the cell. Then you go out, you see such a world around you and it's like — aah... So it's because they can't see that the camera hasn't been cleaned! I need to go and clean it. So what is it? You already know that many people have cleaned the camera before you and nothing has changed?
2. Why would people include this beautiful picture? So that they take off their helmet and die? Then why give them shitty spacesuits? So that they die if they don't take off their helmet? Then why would they include a beautiful picture if they're going to die anyway? It's a waste of resources just for all these vagaries.
3. I understand that this cleaning is kind of like a punishment for people who want to get out of the bunker. Who allegedly dig under its foundations and claim that, in fact, everything is not as we are told. And then they're like, fuck, here's the proof. They believe that the world is actually normal, go out into it, see how beautiful it is and die... But for those inside, nothing changes. So? Then what's the point?
@GreenHedgehog: I agree about the cleaning... that it looks strange, well, okay, the first cleaners could still grab a rag and rub the camera, but the rest... because you wiped the camera, the world didn't get any more colorful and the birds didn't fly.... but here, perhaps, the moment of this euphoria from seeing a vivid picture, which none of the residents had seen before, played a role... what is common for us to see every day is something unreal for them...
@10anya_d: No, they said in the show itself that this was so that people could see more clearly what was going on there and did not want to go outside.
@NickPaulson: well, okay, all the last people who came out witnessed how the camera was cleaned before and nothing changed (not that the camera was just dirty), then they come out, see this colorful bright world, but they don't even think about why this world was not visible from previous cleanings... and they run to the camera and start stupidly cleaning, as if a small layer of dust distorts the world so much, but they cleaned it and saw the light... Well, it doesn't make sense
@GreenHedgehog: The "cleaners" must be kicked out of the Bunker, but in such a way that they are guaranteed to rest and not go over the hill. Because some point of the Rules says that "if someone has gone over the hill, prepare for war." And at the same time, everything should look perfect. For this, managers like Bernard have all the means there, because the picture in the helmet allows people to break the template, they were sure that everything was terrible, a nightmare, they would not clean, and then suddenly it turns out that the grass is turning green, the sun is shining. My breath catches in my throat from joy and I want to somehow show people that everything is fine there. And how? You only have a rag in your hands, you can only happily rub the camera sensor and wave, and then curiosity will pull you higher and see how beautiful this world is without drugs. And so they go up the hill, and then they stumble (everyone is stumbling there, you can't see a single blemish of the real picture) and then they are already crawling up the hill. And the air is tight. In total, we have a more or less well-developed and predictable scheme. The people inside see the pattern and are not eager either to leave or to be forcibly released. What Bernard and co. need is stability and predictability. A kind of miniature Luzhkov.
@Kentavr: So that's the question. They have already seen people wipe the camera several times and nothing happens. Why do they suddenly start wiping themselves when they find themselves in this world?
If Bernard already has everything planned, why don't they stupidly give them a spacesuit pierced in an inconspicuous place? What's all this crap about simulating a beautiful world for? Well, you came out like that, a ready—made dead man, and you think, damn, I have a complete mess in front of me. And there's beauty all around you. And you take off your helmet... By the way, why didn't anyone take it off as soon as they saw it? So what? Well, you drop dead. Just to stir up this whole complicated scheme? Is one hole in the suit not enough?
@GreenHedgehog: why give some kind of pierced suit, and risk being caught or that someone will notice the hole and fix it, if the whole suit is technologically made to just let air through, outwardly looking high-quality? And only the head of IT knows that it is of poor quality.
I did not understand the first question, there is already an answer to it even in my message above, not to mention the book: "... the picture in the helmet allows people to break the template, they were sure that everything was terrible, a nightmare, they would not clean, and then suddenly it turns out that the grass is turning green, the sun It glitters. My breath catches in my throat from joy and I want to somehow show people that everything is fine there. And how? You only have a rag in your hands, you can only happily rub the camera sensor and wave, and then curiosity will pull you higher and see how beautiful this world is without drugs..."
@Kentavr: I really think the whole hook with the helmet picture is buggy. That is, after all, when you go out, it becomes obvious to you that the screens are NOT what they are outside at all. Well, it's impossible to think that the glass is so dirty, that the Blue sky, green grass, birds fly - it looks like an extinct world through the dusty glass, well, what nonsense. and MOREOVER, we have seen more than once how AFTER wiping the camera, NOTHING really changes, perfectly, cleanly, beautifully. From here, I don't understand at all how "seeing a completely different picture" on the street makes me feel like I need to wipe the camera a little. Damn, they sketch the stars in the sky in the evenings day after day. It doesn't make sense.
@digil: I'll say more - understanding and building the whole philosophy around what's out there is a real mess and ruin, which is exactly what allows you to build a society inside, since nothing else just doesn't work a priori. As it is, it's some kind of false hope... And why? Of course, I'll try to read, or rather listen to books, maybe I'll change my mind, because they will logically answer this question. But so far, I see it as something like Zhenya Bazhenov, aka the Bedcomedian, perfectly portrays the scriptwriter of all sorts of nonsense, where there is zero logic, but gee-gee-gee.
Some kind of matryoshka doll comes out, first 1 bunker, in the second season 2 or more, in 3 they will tell about all those who escaped, and if they live to see season 4, then it turns out that they are on another planet, and so on. We are expecting!
Here, I'm interested. First of all, why didn't Grandma and Jules talk on the radio, as we were clearly shown, anyone could accidentally overhear them. Well, and secondly, why didn't Grandma use her radio to pick up signals from neighboring bunkers, since they were so close
@dissentfree: I guess the point is that this is fiction and the characters have to be dumb, like the villains, otherwise you won't be able to create a drama. And absolutely wonderful pianos should appear in the bushes. And none of the 5,000 residents of the shelter accidentally ever broke a mirror to see a cool lens there.
@bogdansky9000: in the same place, the mayor said that Juliet broke the mirror and pulled out an "air purification device" (instead of a camera), that is, if someone accidentally broke the mirror and saw the camera, they told him that it was an air purification device))))
Of course, this huge number of bunkers is just a tin can.... I wonder what happened on earth if the air is infected? How long will there be enough air in the balloon/suit?
I forgot to write in the previous post. I don't want to accuse anyone of plagiarism, but didn't everyone hear the track from Nolan's "The Beginning" when Walk came out of her workshop? This is a question for people who don't have a bear in their ear.
@Mysterious-007: I suspect these are local watchmen, they are very easy to catch - now you can see who is setting the cons. By the way, the same characters are probably stalking me and monitoring my comments, because it's not the first time I've seen them in my comments on various TV series. The track in that scene, by the way, is very similar to Hans Zimmer - Time - it's when Walk comes out of the workshop and cheers herself up. Slightly modified, certainly not a complete copy, but very close.
@bogdansky9000: I don't give a shit about dislikes, and the fact that there are people without a musical ear is a fact. I'm like that myself. By the way, let me know, I disliked you, is it important?? 🤣🤣 It seemed to me that @Mysterious-007 is your "local watchman". If I'm wrong, then forgive both /both/ wallpapers, I didn't mean to offend.🙂
@11_13_17_19: this is the first time I've commented on this account, I'm not in the habit of tracking specific people) Well, I don't actually have a musical ear either (no education in this field)- maybe because of this, people were bombed out- that the author of the comment was trying to hurt them- like for snobbery) I just don't like that people are taking a minus here just out of stupidity- not for negativity or aggression- I can understand that, but when you just have a different opinion and want to discuss it, and they give you a minus- how-is that stupid and childish?) There is a majority opinion and a wrong one.
@Mysterious-007: exactly... especially when someone writes meaningful sentences and is ready for discussion and exchange of opinions, but no - there are violent negative ones... and so that the comment is not visible? In general, such a "Kindergarten" is often present here.
@MarkRaffer: That's not for you to talk about "discussion and exchange of opinions." You've hidden your profile and blocked the ability to rate you. Who are you after that? Piss off!!!
@11_13_17_19: Why did I hide my profile? It's open to the palm of your hand and let everyone watch and enjoy good taste in both TV series and movies... and if I don't like something, whether it's the script, the acting, or the scenery/special effects, I always talk about it directly, describing what, where, and how. That's the way it is...
Beautiful world = safety, so you can take off your helmet. Helmet removed= death. Death of the cleaner = the people in the bunker see that it is impossible to go outside. Residents don't want to go outside = a quiet, safe life in a bunker. Prohibition of having children = prevention of the risk of overpopulation of the bunker (it is clear that its area is very limited). Cleaners cannot help but die, as the risk of riots and those who want to go outside increases. All the rules are quite logical and reasonable. This is the only way they can keep alive in the bunkers.
Is it a problem that the third one doesn't have a translation? Everyone tries to say this... well, there is no translation, you can read it in the original.
Of course, the mayor had to be safe, because he didn't know how much information Juliet had read from the disk, but for some reason he trusted her.. However, his suppliers had never failed him before.
Many people write that emulation in a helmet through augmented reality was supposed to encourage people to take off their helmet, which would lead to their death. But the question arises: why bother so much if many people's suits were made of substandard materials anyway, which would have led to the death of a person anyway?
That is, in either case, the person will die. It turns out that the only purpose of augmented reality is to motivate a person to go and wipe the camera lenses, and that's it. But that didn't sound particularly intriguing then.
@Karrong: Here's a much simpler explanation for you. Suppose we take conditional figures for convenience, there is enough air in the suit for 3 minutes. As it was told in the story, no one in their memory even went to the ledge beyond which the illusion ends. And they have cameras for broadcasting the state of the environment to the bunker. Anyone who comes out of the bunker can: Be conscious and clean the lenses Be deceived by the external environment and clean the lenses Climb a hill and see a bunch of bunkers and think they've been tricked and run back But in the end, everything was cleaned. And the 3rd option is the worst for bunker managers, but even it is advantageous because the lenses will still be cleaned by running back waving their arms. That's why they are shown a picture so that they spend their precious time on an illusion and they don't have enough time to run upstairs to see the bunkers, rethink their whole lives and run to signal to the camera that they are not alone here. There's not enough time for everything, especially since people come out who don't know what to expect and everything is new to them. So it takes a minute to create an illusion, a minute to clean, and a minute to run down the hill. Either a minute for the illusion, a minute to run to the hill, and a minute back to come back and clean the lenses to play charades. But there won't be enough time for everything, because the poisoned air through the "spoiled" suit will end the life of the person who left.
@Vescero: And what's the problem with showing that there's a full and unviable ass outside? And that life is possible only inside the bunker. The only reason is that there is an opportunity to find out that there are other bunkers.
I wonder what could have happened to make the air unsuitable for breathing. I assumed that people coming out were being poisoned on purpose, but it turned out to be much more prosaic. It's just poor isolation, and the world is probably really unsuitable for humans. What is called Jebaited.
@10anya_d: Do Japanese people live in bunkers in Hiroshima now? Nuclear weapons do not have such damaging factors that would survive after hundreds of years and kill a person instantly.
@bAt0Nx: I won't say, of course, but since the tragedy of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, nuclear weapons have certainly "improved" in strength and range of destruction... plus, the half-life of radioactive substances plays a role there... but I'm not going to argue with you and prove my point of view, nuclear weapons are just the first assumption that comes to mind, it's possible that everything there is much more interesting and global...🤷♀️
The series leaves a teenage feeling, where a lot of things are far-fetched and frankly raw. - the engine repair scene and the fall scene are just no comments, physics has left the chat. - a villainous villain who has no point in hiding and pretending to be kind at all. No, seriously, where is the stopper, the counterweight that prevents the bunker from sliding into an open dictatorship? Why was this one-man theater necessary? It would be understandable if there were various groups in the bunker and the division of power by spheres of influence - then yes, scandals, intrigues, investigations are appropriate. If there were a system of checks and balances, a trick would be appropriate. But when you actually own all the power, you are the head of IT specialists, you removed the mayor and took his place, you crushed the lawyers, the judge trembles at the mere mention of your name - in this case, who do you play in front of? What prevents you from taking power into your own hands openly, if you already have it all? What are these public games for? Well, of course - to add to the audience's turn. But from the character's point of view, what is his motivation to stage a circus instead of a simple elegant power grab? - what was the sacred meaning for George to jump down? Was he so sure that Juliette would unearth all the secrets on her own? If he was afraid of being tortured, why didn't he ask to go outside in front of witnesses? So at least there would be a chance to give Jules some information when saying goodbye. As it is, there is a feeling that they wanted to show off this twist and break Jules even more, but from George's point of view, the act is somewhat impulsive and uncharacteristic (I believe more that he would have haggled and tried to dodge to the last, rather than just suicide on the verge of discovering the biggest secret in life).
In general, it's kind of damp. Physics is lame in some places, logic and motivation are in some places, and in the middle the plot just slows down and slows down. It could have been better-and really gorgeous. And so - on 6/10, perhaps.
@almost_lt: You're the one who paid off the six in advance... and so, yes, absolutely everything is lame and does not even reach the top four. Watch exclusively for the sake of Rebecca.
@almost_lt: I didn't understand why he took out the mayor at all! Vanity? Suppose that Deputy Kholstin was right and he was the real target, not the mayor, then why did he want to remove him? He would have been a passive, obedient deputy, and it would have been even worse after the murder!
I didn't think there was more than one bunker, although I wondered why only 10,000 people were alive. The mayor probably ran to contact other mayors, and Jules will probably come back through that very door, under water.
I understand the 18 on the key is the number of our bunker) and the door at the bottom leads to other bunkers. In short, some kind of falaut turned out) and in other bunkers everything will be arranged differently)))
@Denbasket: It has been written here many times that there were 50 bunkers. Now, it's been written several times that there were 51. I wonder if I write that there were 48 bunkers (so, out of stupidity), will I end up in the category of spoilers or in the category of freaks who read books diagonally??😂😂 I mean, you're going to fall into some category anyway.🙂
The series delighted both me and my husband. It was one of our best nights, and while watching this masterpiece, I'd like to see the sequel sooner. We sincerely hope that it will be on the same level and even higher. There are no more comments, just emotions and a desire to review the "Shelter" more than once 👍
@polli123: I haven't had this for a long time either, I want to read all the books and it's impossible to wait a year, I'm already listening to an audiobook, I'm so curious))
@MemesKirdi: Yes. There was a funny moment in the book where, in theory, this season ended. Seeing that Jules is leaving, the mayor goes down to a room, picks up the phone and says, "First bunker? This is the eighteenth. We have a problem." And then you realize that they're not alone, cool.
The series is so cool that after the season finale, I couldn't stand it and read the short story of the entire book series.🤯 Now it's two years to wait for the film adaptation, it sucks
@sanya017: The second season will be a bombshell and will finish book 1. But then it's full of shit, as for me. I barely finished reading book 2. In Book 3, many mysteries and omissions were not revealed. Here, of course, you can make a great season if you try hard.
Before the release of the last two episodes, I managed to read the first book and, frankly, I lost interest a little. In the book, everything seemed somehow not too surprising, so despite the differences with the film adaptation, I somehow paused the viewing.
I didn't really understand the turn with Lucas, perhaps this is the main question after watching the episodes, initially he has a rather important role. In any case, I'll wait for the second season and see, after all, there aren't many science fiction series coming out these days.
I swallowed the season in one gulp on the weekend! I was completely delighted and now, on the eve of waiting, I'm already starting to read books) It's been a long time since some kind of universe has dragged on.
In the end, I would like to say that the series turned out to be even very good. Despite his cliched appearance at the beginning, he accelerated a lot by the end. There were some unexpected moments, and how cool it was when grandma finally came out of her house, overcoming her fears (?). The series is a solid 4-plus, we have to wait for the second season, I hope it will be even more interesting. But I still don't understand why she survived.
@lexx011201: At the time Walker left her room, and how hard it was for her. I remembered how Charles "Chuck" McGill went out of his house to get a newspaper and then, in the legendary TV series (in my opinion) "Better call Saul." There, we knew that he had a phobia (fear of any kind of electricity). Here, I do not know why she was afraid to come out? Perhaps he was looking at it inattentively.
@DeadKennedys: Well, in this episode, I think she was afraid to go out, because she had been living in the same room for 25 years, afraid of something unknown to her. But why she hasn't come out all this time, I do not know. It doesn't seem to have been explained.
When listening to the melody of the screensaver for the first time, it seemed that Ramin Javadi had written the music for them. It's like the World of the Wild West has started to look. But no, it was Atli Ervarsson. It's funny that two different composers have a similar style.
An interesting series. If I watched the first few episodes falling asleep, then by the end of the season I couldn't stop. Until the last moment, I believed that the "lawyers" were replacing the picture on the camera with a shitty one so that no one would try to escape from their "mouse paradise"... And also, as I understood it, a hefty airlock with a tunnel at the very bottom should lead to neighboring shelters. Rebecca Ferguson in the title role is, of course, a dubious choice, but well, we have what we have. I'll look forward to continuing.
There's one thing I don't understand. If the person outside dies, why would they waste valuable spacesuits and oxygen tanks? Would you send it like that? "Humanists". I wonder what/where the poison is
@RetroGirl: something like - the atmosphere is filled with some kind of nanorobots... but the lifespan of these nanorobots is just like that of Duncan MacLeod...
After all, I went upstairs instead of looking for the door that Josh found at the bottom. Well ok.
Spacesuits are certainly strange. Does it bother anyone that the places where the helmet and neck meet do not require any electrical tape? And on the hands, all the joints must be rewound.
I'm looking forward to the second season, a very good series.
She went upstairs against her will, but she was determined and sentenced. She didn't seem to choose, unless earlier it was necessary to fall down the garbage shaft instead of falling into the garbage
This projection in the helmet is a direct advertisement for Apple Vision Pro... like look at what a juicy picture, everyone believes :Apple knew what they were filming and for what 😄
The series is top-notch. The middle was a bit tedious, but the beginning and the end are cheerful. Rebecca Ferguson is 39 years old, but she looks like a young girl, is perfect for this role and plays perfectly. I can't stop admiring her, now I'm waiting for Dune with her participation. Well, while waiting for the second season, I'll start reading books, because the story is very fascinating and intriguing.
I thought that they had smashed the fake disk, and the grandmother would be able to show the real broadcast on the cafeteria screen. But everything turned upside down and expectations were disappointed)
@MarkRaffer: How did I hurt you? Why can't I rate (confirm) your comment? It's real on the surface, there are no people. This is already known, even by those who have not read anything.
@DeadKennedys: Could it be that you've been taking a lot of chances with my perfectly good jokes or sarcastic remarks? But whatever you say, I've taken it out of the spotlight for now.
And why did Juliet's friend kill himself? If he knew that "everyone was lying" and that it was possible to live on the surface, then why bother? I would have asked for a way out.
And by the way, why are those who go out for "cleaning" treated with gas? This is usually how people who come in from the outside are treated in all sorts of fiction, but why go out? Why doesn't anyone from the bunker ask this question?
@Necromantica: They are treated with argon before release (element 18 in the periodic table, a funny coincidence). It has many properties, including protective ones. But as you can see, according to the protection properties of cleaners, there is dust in the eyes.
@Necromantica: so there, they did not treat the escapees with gas, but purged the airlock with argon pressure, then burned it through so that the infection would not enter the bunker.
I liked the series. I went to read books after him. Although the books don't keep the intrigue as much as in the TV series, they're no less hooked. Especially since the outcome there was completely different. In short, I read the book as if I hadn't watched the series. If you're really hooked on it, then I recommend reading it. However, the third book is not in translation, which is very sad.
The end of the season came out unexpectedly, and in general, the series came out very decent, that's what it means when you shoot a series without departing from the original source (the book).
@Andger: So the thing is, they took the very idea from the book, and that's basically it. Well, there are also heroes, some of them have also been redone. I counted 3 matches)
@Lilpeace: I just haven't read this series of books, I read the comments before, they seemed to unsubscribe, which corresponds to the book, but it's clear that the one who wrote them either read the books or wrote the comments out of stupidity. Thanks for the clarification. PS:+ thank you for your reply
All season long we thought that the real world was green, but it turned out that the picture on the screens in the bunker was real. The checkmate of conspiracy theory. It's a shame that the sheriff and his wife died, and he believed to the last that they would meet Juliet in the wonderful world of the future...
The series is a bomb! I'm really looking forward to the second season. I wish there were more such series about the post-apocalypse. Among other things, I'm wondering who the three cleaners who came out long before Holston's wife. Did they volunteer themselves or were they kicked out? Did everyone go outside together? I haven't read a book.
The best TV series for 2023 for me, the characters are all good, no one was annoying, the plot is interesting👍 I'm really looking forward to the sequel.
It is very expected that some kind of disaster has occurred and there are plenty of such shelters, and every "mayor" wants to keep people completely unaware of what is happening, I wouldn't be surprised if aliens are behind everything. 🤣
At first, the series seemed so-so, but by the end of the season, and especially the ending, it's on fire! I didn't expect the greens to be fucked up so that the camera would be cleaned. But there are still a couple of questions:
1. So why did they try to kill and kill Marnes' assistant, and accidentally the mayor along with him? That's naaafiiigaaa? 2. Why did the head of IT, being the most important, approve Nichols as sheriff, and then take her side in the conflict with Sims over planted evidence?
As for the second one, it seemed to me that he expected that she could be manipulated for his own purposes, he did not understand why in fact it was her previous sheriff who chose his successor, in the end he simply underestimated her stubbornness and maturity. Plus, Sims obviously pursues some personal goals of his own in his post and the mayor does not trust him. Or maybe all his decisions are conditioned by orders from above, for sure he is also a puppet in the whole hierarchy of power, as we will find out in other seasons.
The comments on the final episode of the series are more interesting than the series itself. In general, yes, 1 and the last episode = watch. Skip the murk between them.
Damn, I want a sequel!😅 One of the most interesting series of the last year. So many riddles, so many questions that it's just oh and ah. It is clear that those who have read the books already know the ending) What will happen to her next, where will she go, will she come back somehow, etc . The series is very similar to Ascension. I have always said that high-quality electrical tape is the key to the success of any repair 😅 I wonder how she'll get through to the other bunkers. Is it really possible to survive in the open world? Wow, I haven't had so many questions yet))))
It's a cool series, even though the middle got hooked after a rough start and a change of characters, the finale came out great. It's a rare case when you want to look into what the plot is based on, for spoilers.
Questions about the series: 1. The ending of the bunker location confused me as an engineer. There, the descent circle itself is already the size of a excavation. 2. The generator has been running for 140 years and has never stopped. No engine has ever worked so much, even without so many blades. And then there's a whole blade engine, where only 1 blade is bent, and it's not clear how. 3. The pipes and the pipe system itself have long been rusted or simply worn out. Since the steam pressure that is supplied in it and the temperature eventually destroy the metal. And in the movie, they're not even painted with special paint. This means that the service life is doubled. 4. Where do they get their clothes from. For ten thousand people, so many clothes, for different tailoring. This is simply impossible. Considering the size of the bunker and the meticulousness of the designers to fit everything into a small space. They still live like barons. 5. Waste metal is thrown out every hour...Question...where does so much metal come from that they can produce it into parts and transform it? Even if you take into account the mines or smelting workshops. But every hour of the day, it is not possible to produce as much as they do. Even with 140 floors. 6. How easily a super hacker appeared who agreed to hack everything and everyone. Even that confused me. 3 minutes of screen time and immediately he hacks the hard drive. At the beginning of the film, even the main character and the main character of episode 1 were afraid to do this, but here is the "red-haired Ivanushka". 7. The division of floors has not been explained here. I realized that whoever is higher on the floor has a rank and a place in some kind of service organization. And who is lower....he digs into the engine, supplies everything with energy, but has absolutely no voice. It's kind of weird. The hierarchy is poorly represented, although when the female mayor came down, it was clear that the upper ones didn't care about the lower ones. If she was down there already 20 years ago. Just like in real life.
@MypMyp: 8. Diseases. Usually, the healthiest are taken to the bunker, checking them on special devices so as not to cause pathology. But the strange thing is that this disease is here like a single virus or a birth defect. 9. Based on what qualities the mayor or other people are chosen. Paint the benches and enlarge the food in the dining room. It's stupid. There is nothing to do there, the whole system is set up. And the Mayor is most likely created for a habitual understanding of government. In fact, it is not needed there. Here's the I.T. system, yes, they keep order. Even considering their stealth, this is the correct understanding of bunker survival. There should be no censures or guesses. But the strange thing is that there is no Religious theme here. that is, when a person is locked up or dreaming of something, he raises it into favor and creates an image of holiness. That is, the stars in the sky are heavenly angels or other system for creating fairy tales for children. To form a god system here later. But it just doesn't exist. And it's weird. 10. The bunker system itself. Due to the difficulty of creating such structures, they are always made compact. There will never be such a staircase. At most, it would go along the middle and already the branches went to the rooms. Any increase in size and complexity of the structure leads to an increase in cost and operating time. Even if you consider that there are 51 of them, as they say. Imagine how much money and time it takes to build them. Each bunker has its own drilling machine, it is not small. Plus supplies and boxes of apartments, all this is being built from the lower tiers. Of course, it is possible to accept this as the author's fantasy, but as practice shows, it is impossible to build such a thing in the specified amount.
@MypMyp: according to the book, everything is bad, so you don't even have to start, because there are hundreds of similar questions. But the author is a fucking idiot, and Amazon is promoting him to its unicellular audience. The essence of the whole story can be expressed in one sentence: "Someone decided to destroy all of humanity, because it is too technologically advanced, and this can cause problems... but something went wrong in the end."
@MypMyp: No, I'm just saying that I've read the books and I'm telling it like it is. In fact, the author is clearly not Hemingway or Faulkner in literary terms, but in terms of plotting, he loses 100% to some kind of chat with the beginnings of artificial intelligence. And he really got a kind of situation, but how would it be right now, yes for 100+ years ahead and without even answering basic natural questions on the go, how did it come to this. All these canned goods, computers, generators, light bulbs, gloves, syringes, toilet paper and so on. The author doesn't seem to care where it all comes from. It's all there, and that's what makes him dance like a constant. Well, licking with his rough tongue to some hypothetical IT, whatever the author understood by this word. But to the sad public from this very IT, for some reason, something like this comes to me, as the one who has been associated with IT since the last millennium - from this I just yell in my voice.
The theory with the cartoon that makes you wipe the glass has been justified. I would never have guessed) How many bunkers are there, my goodness? Dozens? And the city, as far as I understand, is abandoned. And apparently there is no pact in the other bunkers, everything is different there. Maybe the "relics" are not destroyed in the neighboring bunker, but carefully stored. Or is there still a connection between the bunkers and a single system is maintained? I probably can't wait for the second season, I'll read the books. It's too long to wait.
It would be great if the account was banned for spoilers. At least don't read the comments at all. You're all so smart and cool, you can read, and you even bothered to read two whole books, but why would anyone spoil the experience and reveal the basics of a future plot? So that what? For the future, I've rerolled all the commenters with spoilers, but why do they spoil the viewing for others at all?
I am very sorry for the wasted time. Instead of trying to talk about this world, about farming in a bunker. No one will tell us where the food, water, where all the resources come from, etc., but we will see a rather boring police investigation and a small conspiracy theory, they won't really show anything interesting, repair as repair, police as police, FSB as FSB. As a result, there will be no clues, only new questions will appear. Moreover, these questions will be from the field of "what the hell?"
@izkrys: Is it very interesting about the FSB? Where did it come from, and most importantly, who is the leader? And how can these letters be deciphered in the bunker world? It is especially interesting if there is a Federation in the bunker, then who are the subjects? Damn, so many questions?
@Пьяный_ёжик: FSB = lawmen, I thought it was obvious. a branch of the executive branch that is closer to real power. just an analogy, so as not to write more.
It's not obvious at all, especially in the series. As far as I remember, there was a confrontation between the lawyers and the executive branch, at the beginning of the season, that's for sure. However, I will not argue, before the release of the second season I will review the first and remember everything.😉
It's just creepy.😬 It's like they said, "You know what... oh, I'll tell you next season." I was hoping that everything would end with one season, but it's worth waiting for the second one. The best TV series of 2023, I think)
@ermigurt17: How inexperienced you are... In fact, this creation, both the book version and the TV version, is no more than three or four points out of ten. And then with a big stretch.
@ermigurt17: What kind of TV series? Although, you can always go to the profile and see who gives what ratings to certain TV series and even episodes, as well as the movie. After all, everything is in the palm of your hand, who is watching what and how he evaluates (well, unless of course this "someone" has closed his profile). So go ahead.
@ermigurt17: cult status does not mean high-quality material, and 5-7 episodes of the entire series are quite noticeable, but is 4 out of 5 a bad thing? But since you broke up, well, it's not a pity! Flow around!
@MarkRaffer: Can I explain the 5 American gods? That's where I got really hot, if you don't take into account the first season, then it's just a terrible bore, isn't it?
@izkrys: Well, I'm familiar with the original literary work and Neil Gaiman is one of my favorite authors, but it still comes down to the specifics of rating. If you had noticed, for some reason I didn'T put down the first season in episodes, but the series got an A, and then I gave the episodes ratings and even triples there. But to change the overall assessment - I just didn't pay attention to it, especially since this is one story that is divided into several years of filming, and also unfinished... although with regard to ratings, there is such a Fargo, and I lowered the overall rating there, although the first season was simply excellent. But in general, this is an exception, in order to change the initial assessment, as it is forgotten, and in general.
@MarkRaffer: Well, thanks for the reply. I agree that it's hard to force yourself to change your assessment after disastrous seasons, when the memory of the first great seasons is still fresh. and in principle, it's too lazy to do it. but then don't use the "everything is in the palm of your hand" argument) and again, the estimates of the merger are subjective. I'm watching the same Demeter, well, it's a movie, and it's normal, and the special effects are normal, but why 0.5? Well, because it annoyed you specifically, even though it's just a bad movie, not a nasty one.
@izkrys: Demera is really terrible... not in the sense of "terrifying", as a horror movie should do, but in the sense of "hack", "hat", "sad G." and the like. And everything is already bad, starting from the level of the script and ending with the acting. On the other hand, I watched only 50-55 minutes, of which, starting from the 25th, I overcame myself in every possible way... Well, just a little more, maybe it will get better, well, just a little more and that's it.
@MarkRaffer: Yes, I know it's a shitty movie, it's just that I've watched so many of your ratings, it's the only 0.5. Is this really the worst movie you've ever seen?)
@izkrys: This year, yes, it couldn't be worse... There was also Bezos, and everything is bad there too. Well, that's if you don't take the products of studios like Asilum, since there will instantly be negative values. But about Dracula, I even had some expectations for this movie, but I was completely disappointed.
I am very surprised by the high ratings of each of the episodes. It was boring to watch. The concept of the world and curiosity about the post-apocalypse caught on in the first two episodes, but then the usual weekly smearing of snot on the screen began. The artificial (in every sense) Rebecca Ferguson is needed only for a show-off poster, the powerful Tim Robbins and Jorah Mormont are cramped in their roles, and Dzhigan-Sims is generally cardboard. The rest of the actors are just extras. All this, plus Nichols' story armor, and silly situations like generator repairs and cliched installation escapes from enclosed spaces don't play into the immersion. Was it possible to reduce it all to eight episodes — it seems so. It's unlikely that the series would have been any better. I keep wondering and not understanding where the series got such high ratings.
I really liked the series) although at first the idea itself didn't seem interesting. There were moments where I even rewound. Cool done! Well, as usual, the season ended at the most interesting place))
I read the first book and realized that the series came out much better) the plot of the book breaks off in places, go guess for yourself what happened there. I won't spoil it, I'm sure the second season will be even cooler and more interesting than the book) in the meantime, I'm going to start reading the second book.
@RELEVIL: She had already arranged for another scotch. She even had a criminal record because of this high-quality scotch, which she stole at one time)
Damn, it's funny that everyone was thinking about gas, even though we've been hinted at duct tape for so long. Everything ingenious is simple as they say. It's still unclear why the cleaners should show a beautiful picture, why not just kill them
It is obvious that the bunkers are located too close to each other. The circles we see are about the diameter of the central mine, but the entire infrastructure is located outside it, including huge fields. All these bunkers simply wouldn't fit in such an area.
It's been a long time since I've experienced such tension when watching, everything is in the best traditions of Lost, there's a bunker there and a bunker here! I started watching because of Rebecca, but I liked the plot too. Of course, these 10 episodes could be combined into 5-6 episodes and cut some minor branches, I don't understand why you need to stretch the plot if you already have three books, in any case, I'm happy with what I've seen. The production of the series is simply excellent. Yes, there are still questions, some points are not very plausible, but I stopped finding fault with such things a long time ago. Of course, I would like the series to be released this year!
When Juliette was climbing up the garbage chute and something big was thrown at her from above, and she decided to let go of her hands and jump down (and there she wouldn't fly a couple of meters), and then she fell into a pile of various debris (well, not at all on a soft bed), and remained almost unharmed - WHAT IS IT ANYWAY?
In general, the series is top! I'm really glad that I found out about him) We look forward to continuing)
@DoggNight: Yeah, the calculation is that all watching together will forget the laws of physics XD The box would have caught up with her, and even overtaken her in this race
Awesome! I watched it a second time, looking forward to the second season. Imho - the best TV series in its genre for 23 years. Everything high-quality and delicious has been collected here: a cool, not banal story, high-quality implementation, professional cast and a bunch of riddles, revealing which you can shoot for more than one season. I liked everything in general, there's really nothing to complain about, and nothing to complain about. A separate summary of Fergusson's game - it feels like the actress is imbued with her character and is giving her all. In short, I'm really looking forward to season 2, so much so that I thought about reading books, but changed my mind so as not to bring down the anticipation.
@Nmart17_: Rebecca Ferguson announced that her series "Shelter" should have four seasons. That's the plan. So far, they have filmed the second season, and if the service is satisfied with the numbers that it will show, then it will extend the series for two seasons at once, which this time will be filmed in a row. That is, the project will be finished. They immediately worked out the whole story and thought that four seasons was perfect. Hugh Howie's books, which formed the basis of the series, are currently eight.
@__Maxwell77: it's better from the beginning, but 1) the series went off the rails 2) what goes on in the books like " how, this is an unexpected twist" here for some reason they showed in the first episodes, so there will be no effect "wow " 3) the first and third books are about the story of Jules, and the third without translation into Russian, the second and third are the story of the appearance of the bunker and, accordingly, the answers to all questions, so I do not advise skipping the second, otherwise you will not understand the third half of the story.
@Sorceress772: well, firstly, there is already a translation into Russian (crooked, and dialogues in quotation marks, but there is, secondly, if you want to read it, you can also read it in the original
Against the background of the degradation of the world of TV series, "Bunker" is a watchable, relatively dynamic series. I watched it with pleasure. The actors did a wonderful job. I recommend it! Definitely!
Where the hill is, you can see that something like a cable is running in a circle. I think that's why it was important that no one went over the hill, I think the hologram of the green world works only in a certain radius, designated just by this, so to speak, "energy field". Perhaps the hologram with birds is what it projects in other bunkers on the display (the episode with the generator shutdown speaks in favor of this theory, when for a second we were shown a green world instead of a dead one). And the mayor ordered everyone to see, because people could believe that the world was not dead and arrange a riot so that they would all be released, which everyone was afraid of, both the previous mayor and the new one. It looked like the new mayor was not in the course of the big door. It remains a mystery what kind of machine is buried, who built the shelters and yet what happened. I have not read the books, so I ask you not to throw slippers, as these are purely my assumptions and observations.
@fb1073577: there are retellings of books on YouTube, the first book was stretched over two seasons, which will be in the second one you can quickly listen to.
The authors keep a fig in their pocket and offer the viewer to guess what is there. And we're like, "Mmm, how interesting, how mysterious, mysterious."
Overall, I liked the series. What didn't you like: - The moment when the lights were turned off, the picture switched, and people didn't even notice and didn't ask questions. - Terribly prolonged moments with love that made you want to sleep
the ending is bombastic, as is the series itself. and to be honest, it's just unexpected. how did they figure it out before?... how did Jules realize that the picture was also changed outside?...
I hope for a sequel, although I hardly believe in it.
I really liked the series! Of course, there are some illogicalities, but it pays off with an exciting plot... and it's very interesting what happens next... I hope it won't be that far away...
Books, of course, are more interesting, because everything is told in much more detail, in more detail, with the inner feelings of the characters. They are read in one breath, it is impossible to break away.
The sheriff's wife then saw some tunnels (or something like that) at the very bottom of the bunker on that hard drive. And it may be possible to move from one bunker to another. Or maybe through that 5-meter door you can get into another bunker?
There are only two questions gnawing at me: why was it necessary to depart from the plot of the books and how is the plot turned out now because of this? The book is wonderful, the series was shot well, but alas, it's better to watch it first, and only then read it.
@Sorceress772: it will be turned out somehow, or the plot will intersect at key points. I was generally blown away when reading the book, when a different picture began to appear on the pages in front of me) The main thing is not to deviate far from the basics, otherwise there will be a different story in the end
The most excellent series. It keeps you in suspense, until the last it is unclear where the reality is and what will happen next. And it is also unclear where the bodies of the mayor and his wife went - in fact, they died or still went somewhere
How can we wait for the second season, which is coming out in 4 days?How did the others wait for the whole year? So even now you will have to watch one episode a week😭 I thought maybe they were being poisoned with gas in the airlock, but the air was still habitable. Well, let's see. This tunnel under the water is also very interesting, it looks like she will return through it
The most suitable series, because you don't need to watch the previous season before the next one is released, what was there? - she came out of the bunker! profit! )
@19jshaman19: As far as I remember, the air on Earth is really not suitable. The spacesuits of the previous people who were sent for cleaning were wrapped with poor quality tape. And Jules's spacesuit was wrapped with another adhesive tape, and thanks to this, the air from the surface did not get into the spacesuit. But rather, she doesn't have much time until the air in her spacesuit runs out.
Damn, I liked it. But there's one thing I don't understand. If it's really such trash from the outside, why show that everything is fine in a helmet? Like what would they wipe and go to the gun and die? The goal? Such a sadistic way of getting rid of unwanted people? As it is, it just went right for me. Interestingly, there are many bunkers, all quite close to each other
@Natalina_kr: so that the cleaner would want to clean the camera and show that everything is fine outside and it's just the camera is dusty. But in general, everything is too stretched, so don't strain your brain too much) Howie admitted the illogicality of what was happening in all three books))
@Natalina_kr: read it if you don't want to wait forever) especially recently, the third part was officially translated) I advise you from the very beginning, since the story in the series is slightly different.
Physics followed logic (in the primary sources, apparently, in the same way), the Indians messed up with cgi, actors and not actors at all, but rappers.. We live in mortal time..
@EbakaWin: The idea itself is moronic, I don't give a shit in the ceiling. I just talk about work with boys aged 12-14, they don't have such thoughts, the boys are smart, literate, physically developed, even though they smoke quietly. Is that why your age is interesting?
@EbakaWin: I'm going to put a femshiza on you right now, and they'll tell you in detail how girls are better than boys. Although I won't, you won't take them out.🤣🤣
I haven't read anything, I haven't watched the second season yet, but I think she'll go to the next bunker, where it turns out no one cleaned the camera, clean it and they'll open the door for her?
Dignities: an intriguing and exciting post-apocalyptic plot, atmosphere, acting, Rebecca Ferguson is especially good here. Disadvantages: the series cannot be called dynamic, especially the first episodes were very sluggish.
Of course, I understand everything, but I don't understand why there is an illusion and mystery around everything. Why not tell the residents the truth: our bunker is a shelter, because the Earth is no longer habitable. It would be possible not to even say if there are other bunkers, even if there are. And if there is, then to say that moving between them is dangerous and fraught with such and such consequences. And why this green screen? Plot for the sake of plot, so to speak. But, of course, I'm going to watch another season. Suddenly it's just a field of bunkers, and then there's a normal city and life on the surface.
@BlueberryNights: That's how they've been saying since the first episode, that there's no life outside, no one remembers why, but life on Earth has become impossible. It's the residents of the bunker who don't believe and want to check if it's already safe)
@katemariposita: Yes, but people have questions, because any conversation about the surface is forbidden. Why? Everyone could pass on memories of life on the surface from generation to generation. Mystery always attracts people, encourages them to build intrigues and reach the forbidden. And the screens are not with the actual picture, but with recordings/generated - for what?
Oh well the plot has finally progressed Almost all episodes except the first, second and last were watched at 1.5-2x speeds It seems to me that if you watch the first and last episodes, you won't lose much.
An interesting, though very disturbing series for me!
I haven't read the books, but I assumed there were several bunkers. I think they're connected by the passageways below, and Jules will come back to his own someday.
Interestingly, Sims is not aware of all the cases, but only parts of them. From a conversation with Jules in prison, it becomes clear that the gray-haired boss only thought he was aware of everything, but in fact he himself does not know a lot. Apart from the fact that there is really no life outside the bunker. I even felt the weight of his burden at the end...
But there are still a lot of questions: where are the rest of the bodies of those who came out before the sheriff and his wife? Why are they just the two of them lying there?
When the sheriff saw birds flying by in the first episodes and, in general, exactly the same picture that his wife had seen on the disc before, I suspected something was wrong. And this world looked strangely unrealistic.
But I still didn't think that the image in the dining room was real.
An extremely unexpected outcome. Here's a really interesting twist that turned out to be that the picture is actually real. Until recently, I thought that Holston and his wife were alive and their corpses were just a hologram. At first, the series was delayed, I'm glad that I didn't give up watching. It turned out to be very interesting!
@g1217882: I counted more than 30 pieces while they were being shown on the screen The only thing that bothered me was that they were somehow very close to each other.... He's huge inside
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Discussion: Season 1, Episode 10 Join the Discussion
696To understand how, what's out there? Good electrical tape (not from the IT department) turned out to be more effective than the information on the hard disk. 😁 In real life, this also happens quite often.🙂
"What you have seen must be "seen".😁
She needs to run to another bunker, and incredible artistry to very quickly convince the residents of another bunker to let her in. There is, of course, a chance to come back, and I think the observers of her enchanting exit would force her to let Juliet back in, but this is unlikely.
Who understood, answer, when the mayor said "she understood everything" and ran to the server room, he ran to turn off the screen so that people wouldn't see that she was she able to leave, or did he turn off the projection of the living world in her helmet and thereby help her see reality so that she could figure out where next?
Perhaps the mayor ran to his room to look at the picture from the helmet camera. It looks like no one has gotten this far yet. He was interested to see for himself what was there.
But what is strange. After all, if they did the projection, then he had to see it. And the view there was extensive. Apparently, this projection is also not their handiwork. And he didn't see it himself. That is, what is further behind the rise, all these bunkers and a metropolis on the horizon.
Or vice versa, I ran to turn off this projection for her. But why ? If she survived, then let her not be deceived?
Then the question is: why projection at all? To just die peacefully?
This key of his is also interesting.
And the hatch is under water. Perhaps these bunkers are all communicating at the levels below. Perhaps Juliet will come back through the hatch under water from another bunker.
Watch out for the spoiler next. Don't read!
He left to open the door of bunker 18 with a key, the door to the room for the head, where there is a connection with other bunkers, or rather with bunker 1, he went to inform the main one.
"She understood everything" - this means that Jules saw the real world and the mayor understood it, and to make sure definitively, he ran to room 18 to check if the projection was working.
It's just such a montage that the mayor first enters room 18, and then Jules's projection turns off - it feels like he turned off her projection, but why would he do that? It's a joint, I think.
I have a theory, he did it so that she could see how deadly it was outside, and quickly ran back and died in front of the camera. After all, at this point he had not yet realized that their poisonous gas had no effect on her. But if she goes beyond the perimeter, then there will be unrest inside the bunker, which he is so afraid of.
The second version is more fantastic. That he knocked out the projection so that she could go further, roughly speaking, without breaking her neck by falling and tripping over a stone, or falling from this ring-shaped mountain of sand. Who knows, maybe if he hadn't turned the key, there would have been just solid interference in her helmet, she wouldn't have seen anything beyond the radius of this hologram.
Actually, judging by his reaction. She had told him earlier about the five-meter door at the bottom of the bunker, maybe he didn't even know that there were other bunkers. And anyway, that there is at least something alive outside. That is, this is radically new information for him. This can be seen by the way he began to doubt and wanted to restore the broken disk himself.
And the reaction of his shadow is also interesting. Robert Sims. He definitely doesn't know anything about the outside world. How he reacted when they were shown a green landscape on TV. It's like his eyes lit up and maybe now he'll want to get to the truth. Considering that he has children and as a motive, their future will change.
Источник: https://www.geo.tv/latest/497780-rebecca-ferguson-confirms-filming-for-silo-season-2-underway-amidst-writers-strike
Now I have found only one recent note about the filming of the 2nd season of Silo, but this is not off-line news or from someone from the set.
They wrote that despite the fact that filming is in England, most of the actors are from the USA, so they can't shoot now.
And now a ray of hope. There was news that "House of the Dragon" and the Dune series continue to be filmed even after the start of the actors' strike, as filming takes place in the UK and the actors signed contracts with the local actors' union Equity to work on the series, which did not announce any strikes.
Thus, if the actors of Silo work according to the same scheme, then it may well be that filming continues, but there is no official news yet.
But still it is worth noting the very high-quality work done on the series. Everything is at the highest level.
The first two episodes were so cool, and then the plot began to develop at the level of the series of the 2000s, where the most interesting things are reserved for the last episode of the last season.
Wouldn't it be more effective to prove to them that they believe in a fairy tale, rather than kill them? That is, to make them good costumes, show them that there is a post-apocalypse, and then return them back - wouldn't they become law-abiding citizens after that? Not to mention that they would stop messing with people around)
Yes, and it's more interesting anyway, in my opinion, actually that's what they are assumptions for.
As a result, it turns out that people are "cleaned" so that they do not muddy the water in the bunker, but in fact just because it is written in their charter. Because the water gets muddy after they're killed anyway. And no one in 140+ years has doubted the correctness and effectiveness of the cleaning idea.
According to my calculations at least 10 maximum 30 at least at the moment that we were shown at that moment
Then where did the corpses go?
why didn't GG hide next to the water?
a lot of questions, I'm waiting for the second season with impatience)
But it turns out that everything is due to the fact that the tightness of the suit was bad, because of the duct tape. Duct tape solves)
I think there is an illusion made for this - a person goes out, takes off his helmet, dies, in the people inside the bunker a clear example of how not to do it
If the air outside is dangerous, how will Juliet survive, where will she go?
in general, it seemed to me that naniki are circling only near these shelters. Because in the book, if I'm not mistaken, it says that the dude saw green grass in the distance.
But in general, and through the main entrance came out well) I suppose at the same time I caused even more excitement among the watching people.
But since Lucas was sent here to mine ore somewhere, probably the door at the bottom will be for him? Well, because there must be at least some connection?
Well, I thought there were more bunkers, because it would be strange to make one for only 10k people. Most likely, they either died in others, or the same Sims are sitting, or even a different formation and they are aware of the rest of the bunkers
The only thing is that they are too close to each other, but okay
And when the heroine came out, for some reason she did not see anyone's bodies.
It's too weird. It seems that this moment has not been worked out.
But again, it turns out that the video is played purely on the helmet screen, a kind of vr helmet, and very serious and complex. The question arises - where did they get such technologies, if what was shown in the bunker is very primitive.
Maybe there is a special wildest spread of technologies . The lower classes enjoy the benefits of society at the minimum available level, and the upper ones have Quake 2 on the ultras and they arrange champions on the network between the bunkers :)
In general, I mean that I correctly wrote something that was shown to us in the bunker from technology, but they could not show much. Just another element of deterrence. You see , they even have microscopes specifically banned , as well as many other things . That is, they intentionally slow down progress for something.
On the one hand, if everything is so bad, then on the contrary it would be more logical to promote progress.
On the other hand, if everything is not so bad, then a developed society is quite unprofitable for power structures due to self-interest.
And here it turns out that death is on the outside, inside some key elements have significant wear, but at the same time they are trying to crush scientific and technological progress... Why, why - who will explain?
While I was writing, I came up with a no less fantastic version than the film itself.)) What if this is some kind of exclusion zone (after a nuclear war, for example (at first I thought about another planet altogether, but the ruins of the city were shown there, so it's unlikely)), to which "extra" people were sent in such a humane way to live out their lives. After all, after the nuclear war, a very small part of the Earth remained habitable and it was inhabited by the elites, and all the rest were sent to live out their lives in these bunkers.
That's such a flight of fancy))
Also, apparently, they will answer questions later on why they deliberately slow down the development of technology (the improvised microscope was destroyed, although thanks to it it would be possible to save lives. Well, or rather, including thanks to him). Or why they cut off everyone who "digs deep" into the essence and blah blah blah)))
Ahahha 😸 aposly Fallout and hedgehogs with him , of course , something similar comes to mind that maybe these are experiments . Or there were thoughts about another planet, too. In general, I'm waiting for some other kind of direct hard turn. It's like in Cloverfield 10, for example, it was that You think there's one, and then it's over there!
Or when you watch a TV series, it would seem, about one thing, and then SUDDENLY it turns out that You watched an illusion for a whole season and there you are in general in another (unless it's about 1899 recent).
In short, we are actively waiting for the continuation of yyyy 🐱
Even in the series there was an illustrative moment when Ferguson became the new sheriff , she was teased about what she eats because for them the fact that she is from the bottom is akin to almost a person from another planet ahahaha 🌚 I exaggerate jokingly, but there was about such an essence :)
At the moment of the action of the film, they do not do anything supertechnological - from the word at all.
About the cameras. Cameras are far from everywhere, and it's ridiculous to call them the crown of technology. Especially if you consider that the film did not say that they produce all this (as far as I remember, but only repair it), respectively, they use some kind of stock. And if they do not produce technology, then it is also stupid to say that they are technologically advanced.
I.e., in fact, they only use a small set of heritage, they do not produce anything themselves and do not develop in any way in this matter.
I did not say that they live like aborigines, but only said that they do not develop in this matter in any way. Yes, they can repair an already used generator, but they can't make a new one. As they can't do many other things. And those in power are doing everything for this.
So those who created this bunker with all the "stuffing" had the technology. Those who live there now don't have them in the broad sense.
And the conditions they made in the bunkers themselves stopped progress in order to maintain order so that a nuclear bomb would not turn out.
Well, as a trap for the most curious, it's to go outside, thinking that there is something there, thereby keeping progress at the same level. Do not give birth to people with a good icq.
In fact, it turns into a prison for the continuation of the genus homosapiens at any cost until the appearance of life on the planet.
As soon as life appears, the people who go to clean the camera will survive, which will give an impetus to the collapse of the existing rules.
Well, plus they repeatedly talked about the duct tape, which she illegally stole, too, for a reason)
There are thousands of videos on YouTube where rusty diesels from the 1900s are launched by tapping on the engine, and the aluminum gasoline engine that was released after 2005 is just garbage after a run
Alternative plot: 1-4 household, she finds a disk, 5 learns the "truth", gets a book, opens the disk in grandma's room, 6 GG runs away, grandma is caught and sent to clean up and they show us the world, 7-9 learns secrets, rewrites information from the disk and goes to the machine room, 10 finds the door. In parallel, you can throw secret rooms, videos of the creators of the bunker, granny's trip to another bunker, etc.
They could have been better and more interesting, 3-4 episodes are interesting in the original plot, the characters are not interesting at all, why should I take their side, why do I care about the stargazer.
Yes, it would not hurt to also be familiar with the literary content, since some things are explained by the author, but still - it's pretty depressing, and the author has thrown out his very narrow-minded vision of the existence of mankind, plus his target audience is mom's cooltshackers, for whom IT (so that under this it was not understood) - the center of the universe, around which everything revolves. So the author sings the praises of this impersonal and ephemeral IT, completely not understanding the essence.
You don't have a particularly healthy reaction to other people's tastes.
Dislikes are not an imposition of taste, but an expression of one's attitude to a comment.
Your comparison about excrement and feces is obviously incorrect.
So I only see completely unmotivated aggression on your part, go there, I don't know, have a rest or do something else
Does it really give you pleasure to write this? Are you asserting yourself somehow? Are you raising your self-esteem? Well ok what
There's xs here, if you only watch mockumentary.
For me, a sign of quality is when the season finale reveals at least some basic secrets and sets the stage for the next ones, and not like from the Outside, for example.
I agree, we got at least some of the answers in the Bunker, but the ending gave us interest, what's next)
The food is filled with delight, even though the picture is a little blurred after the books - still, the "display" in the text has more scope than the display on the screen. I'm really looking forward to the second season. The best TV series of the year after all, but not without a book (because I'm so impatient, yes).
I've obviously read more than 300 books in my life, everyone has different tastes, but I love such genres, and this does not mean that I'm such a bad person who liked the "average cliched dystopian detective story")
It is clear that among the many readers there will be those who do not like the same Robin Hobb or Tolkien, it is impossible to please everyone.
I just got caught up in the fact that there are still more answers in the first book than you mentioned. If only because the first season contains only half of this very first book)
Be kind, people will reach out to you.
I hope it won't be postponed due to the writers' strike and will be released in 2024.
And everyone in the bunker actually sees the real picture, so they don't stand in droves at the exit.
Well, there will always be conspiracy theorists, that's the way people's psychology is. Moreover, when things appear that they cannot explain to themselves (and others too), they begin to interpret everything the way they want.
Plus distrust of the authorities. Because they have secrets anyway, which is why even when they tell the truth, they are not trusted.
And if they ask for it back, especially those who had authority (the same sheriffs), then people may feel sorry for him and start a riot to let him back in. Or someone who conducts the procedure will open it.
And everything like that.
However, it turns out that it doesn't burn there all the time, which means in theory they can let it back in. At least, I didn't see in the movie that the system only works for release and technically you can't go back.
PS. About welding. It does not occur with argon, but IN THE ARGON ENVIRONMENT. Guess why? Hint: it has to do with its relation to oxidation, yeah.
And why was there an absurd claim that I did not understand the principles of welding, even in the context of argon? What was that supposed to mean?
is NOT to READ the SPOILER further.
that this is a real picture of the world. It's just that there's such a squalid world around the bunkers for some distance and nothing grows. Because of the nanorobots
I've watched the season and I just want to instantly turn on another series with the same picture. The servant has already seen it, so we need to go on a search :))
The ending is good, I'm waiting for the second season and I pray that Jesus doesn't cut me off before the release of the second season of Silo and Severance :з
P.S. I sincerely hope that this was not the final lip bite from Ferguson and she will return in the middle of the second season. :*
Either one or the other is just a classic convention, and that's all.
There are a lot of things that piss me off in TV shows, but this is something that is completely missing.
And those people in the server room who saw it for sure - did they really get affected by "let's close our eyes and erase our memory"?
How did she survive the fall in the garbage chute?? And they also dragged her away so quickly, as if they knew about her in advance.
Why was the "Stargazer" sent to the mines, and what kind of mines are these, by the way? Is this such a revenge?
Well, the main mess with duct tape, can someone explain without spoilers? We were told for half a season that she stole duct tape - why, why? Did she know in advance that the duct tape was cooler there? What did Jules say to Grandma in those few seconds that they were alone? And is it really one tape (a foil cap) that protects from "bad air"? Wouldn't it be easier to make a spacesuit with holes right away?
I haven't read the book, but apparently the fear around duct tape in my youth was that they were afraid she would figure out that the cleaning tape was deliberately poor. But she only realized in the finale (Grandma realized a little earlier)
Does electrical tape save you? Well, yes, that's quite possible in theory. It's needed to seal the seams, but it should have enough air for a couple of minutes at least, I think. It's for them that she'll probably have time to drop into the next bunker, where everything has been extinct for a long time, but the ventilation will probably be in working order for some reason. Well, it seems so to me :)
As for the projection on the screen, well, it just wasn't in the book. That's right, the gun that will shoot in the second season is understandable for what it was filmed, but of course it's like that.
And the series ends at the most interesting place, and the second season was canceled. So I don't know if it's worth watching. Although I personally liked it so much that I'll probably even review it sometime.
As for the bodies, look at the screenshots. On the upper body of Holston and his wife in "their" place. At the bottom is a frame from the panorama around Juliet. Here they cheated with the prospect - the bodies are lying behind a tree relative to the bunker chamber and not in such a romantic pose as on the screen - Holsten did not have time to touch his wife. But it's definitely two spacesuits.
Once it was coolly shown right in the background in the background, and the second time it was a little closer and more obvious.
Actually, why did she "go through" this "hologram" and put his badge on the sheriff's body?
I think it was purely for the sake of the beautiful scenario that they showed that they decided to watch only this largest file . Naturally, against the background of the general conspiracy theory, they decided that this was a video of reality, and not the picture that was somehow transmitted to the screen.
Even if you think about it, they simply didn't have time to look at other files, plus they were shocked by the open truth.
So either he wasn't very bright, or he deliberately tipped her off, or he thought she would understand everything and have time to look at other files, or the writers missed this moment . 🤭
Maybe there are ten gigs of text information on it, describing everything, because this disk, for example, belonged to the most important person in the bunker and he knew everything. Or maybe the only important thing is these drawings , a video for an illusion with nature , and the actual distribution kit with Quake 3 and a pack of maps for playing online between bunkers yyyy
FROM the real world, it's just that nothing grows around the bunkers and there are reasons for that
Well, it's time to visit the neighbors)
That's how Jules has no chance of surviving on her own either, unless she can get into the next bunker.
We are waiting for season No. 2 about the life of Bunkers, which are well soooo near. Literally through the wall.
They're out there, of course, I wonder what kind of next one she'll be in.😏
A stupid question, most likely, but those who are closer to her bunker, in order to tell or find a way out at the bottom of the bunker themselves, assumed that they had seen other bunkers and would return to their bunker through it and either tell everyone the truth about the real world or else, which is unknown, change the government and so on
And so, it turns out, there is an endless field of bunkers and they are all interconnected by passages underground. The city on the horizon is where all the answers are hidden, and that's where Juliet should strive.
Who knows, at least in the frame that we were shown, according to my calculations, there are about 30 of them, and who knows how many more where
The air in the suit will run out anyway.
On the other hand, what apocalyptic story does not have strange ideological turns from the point of view of any adequate person?
Not every ideological person is ready to go to death.
As for the series, I really liked the actors, I watched it in the original, so I felt the norms of their acting, not an Oscar, but very good.
Will the following books be affected? Or will they finish on the first one? Let's see. Because the first book is no longer famous, it's a mystery, you think what's hiding up there. It's already clear that we've finished half the book, and the next season should be a good one, because a lot of what's hidden is revealed there.
"The Silo series got its name only after the release of the second cycle of short stories called Shifts. First, Howie released one short story called Wool — literally "Wool". Then, when the story became wildly popular, readers begged him to continue, which the author did, adding four more novellas. And this whole cycle was called Wool. By the way, the name of almost every novel has something to do with knitting (hmm, a pun turned out).
And then the author added a kind of prequel — how it all began and how it all continues in parallel with the events in Wool. He called this cycle of three big stories Shifts. The first of them was called First Shift — Legacy (the 6th part of Silo series (Wool)) — that's what a monstrous name. That's when it was necessary to combine the series under a common name, and then the whole thing got the name Silo.
Summing up. The first cycle of five novellas is called Wool, the third cycle of three novellas is called Shifts and the last chat of this monster is a full—fledged novel called Dust. And all this is now called The Silo Cronicles. But no one has canceled the names of individual cycles included in the full series. "
On the filibuster there are these:
1. The bunker. Illusion (per. Andrey Vadimovich Novikov)
2. The bunker. Shift (Andrey Vadimovich Novikov lane)
1. Cleaning [Wool-ru] (sonate10 lane)
2. Cleaning-2. Accurate calculation [Proper Gauge-en]
3. Cleaning-3. Exile/Reset Loops [Casting Off-en]
I really wanted to read the book!
I really liked the series, I wonder what will happen next)
The most cheerful series in recent times
I knew the spoilers and watched with interest anyway.
That's what a quality product means.
And the series is quite successful. Of course, there are questions (generator! and so on.), but there is an intrigue, the picture is good. Rebecca Ferguson is a beauty.
But if you take at least some details, then EVERYTHING is different there, starting from the many actors and the connections between them. And Juliet is a little smarter in the book than in the TV series.
And then, apparently, they got bored and tied up with this case. At some point, they decided to separate from the rest of the bunkers and flooded this case.
This is my suggestion, not a conditional fact from a book or something :)
I couldn't resist reading the book - I hoped to the last that they would change everything in the series to surprise the viewer (not like in the walking dead, but quite the opposite), but it's also good.
The most important thing is the feeling of the series.
If we compare, for example, with Last of Us (specifically as an example, because it was new), then the situation was exactly the opposite - all the characters there, Joel and Ellie, and an adult lesbian who courted young Ellie, and Joel's brother, and the fireflies - were all scum and bastards. who have done bad things and participated in vile events. It's like watching a Balabanov movie.
Here we have a creepy bunker, some conspiracies, misunderstandings, omissions, some dudes "press" the townspeople - but at the same time all the characters are positive and kind. The mayor, played by a brilliant actor, is in the boat with everyone in the same way and does not pursue his own bad goals, but cares about the welfare of the bunker, Sims - Common is also not a villain at all. They cannot be directly considered scoundrels.
If you want to get out of the bunker, please, they'll even give you a suit (of some kind), and they'll also ask you to wipe the camera with a rag. Some kind of goody-goody or soy villains.
The series has earned an unequivocally positive review.
But I'm tormented by questions: where are the others who got out before the sheriff and his wife? Why are they lying together?
Where are all the bodies?
But the last shots are just shaking
It's a pity, of course, that now I have to wait a minimum year for the sequel, but this is definitely one of the best Sai Fais in recent times
And yes, Rebecca Ferguson is just something with something.
That is, there are many such bunkers and some kind of catastrophe has really happened to the world🤔 or they can control the picture even outside the bunker, because the picture changed only when he turned the key... in short, there are a lot of questions and I'm looking forward to the second season to find out the answers to them!!!
I really hope I hope that the second season will be released as soon as possible, because the series turned out to be just fantastic and I don't want to part with it for a long time.🔥
Another question is why the mayor ordered the staff to turn away when there was a projection on the screens?
1. What was the point of cleaning this camera? I mean, you're sitting in this bunker and you see everyone coming out and cleaning the cell. Then you go out, you see such a world around you and it's like — aah... So it's because they can't see that the camera hasn't been cleaned! I need to go and clean it. So what is it? You already know that many people have cleaned the camera before you and nothing has changed?
2. Why would people include this beautiful picture? So that they take off their helmet and die? Then why give them shitty spacesuits? So that they die if they don't take off their helmet? Then why would they include a beautiful picture if they're going to die anyway? It's a waste of resources just for all these vagaries.
3. I understand that this cleaning is kind of like a punishment for people who want to get out of the bunker. Who allegedly dig under its foundations and claim that, in fact, everything is not as we are told. And then they're like, fuck, here's the proof. They believe that the world is actually normal, go out into it, see how beautiful it is and die... But for those inside, nothing changes. So? Then what's the point?
In total, we have a more or less well-developed and predictable scheme. The people inside see the pattern and are not eager either to leave or to be forcibly released. What Bernard and co. need is stability and predictability. A kind of miniature Luzhkov.
If Bernard already has everything planned, why don't they stupidly give them a spacesuit pierced in an inconspicuous place? What's all this crap about simulating a beautiful world for? Well, you came out like that, a ready—made dead man, and you think, damn, I have a complete mess in front of me. And there's beauty all around you. And you take off your helmet... By the way, why didn't anyone take it off as soon as they saw it? So what? Well, you drop dead. Just to stir up this whole complicated scheme? Is one hole in the suit not enough?
I did not understand the first question, there is already an answer to it even in my message above, not to mention the book:
"... the picture in the helmet allows people to break the template, they were sure that everything was terrible, a nightmare, they would not clean, and then suddenly it turns out that the grass is turning green, the sun It glitters. My breath catches in my throat from joy and I want to somehow show people that everything is fine there. And how? You only have a rag in your hands, you can only happily rub the camera sensor and wave, and then curiosity will pull you higher and see how beautiful this world is without drugs..."
It doesn't make sense.
Of course, I'll try to read, or rather listen to books, maybe I'll change my mind, because they will logically answer this question.
But so far, I see it as something like Zhenya Bazhenov, aka the Bedcomedian, perfectly portrays the scriptwriter of all sorts of nonsense, where there is zero logic, but gee-gee-gee.
How long will there be enough air in the balloon/suit?
I'm looking forward to the second season.
I don't want to accuse anyone of plagiarism, but didn't everyone hear the track from Nolan's "The Beginning" when Walk came out of her workshop? This is a question for people who don't have a bear in their ear.
The track in that scene, by the way, is very similar to Hans Zimmer - Time - it's when Walk comes out of the workshop and cheers herself up. Slightly modified, certainly not a complete copy, but very close.
It seemed to me that @Mysterious-007 is your "local watchman". If I'm wrong, then forgive both /both/ wallpapers, I didn't mean to offend.🙂
Well, I don't actually have a musical ear either (no education in this field)- maybe because of this, people were bombed out- that the author of the comment was trying to hurt them- like for snobbery)
I just don't like that people are taking a minus here just out of stupidity- not for negativity or aggression- I can understand that, but when you just have a different opinion and want to discuss it, and they give you a minus- how-is that stupid and childish?) There is a majority opinion and a wrong one.
All the rules are quite logical and reasonable. This is the only way they can keep alive in the bunkers.
Many people write that emulation in a helmet through augmented reality was supposed to encourage people to take off their helmet, which would lead to their death. But the question arises: why bother so much if many people's suits were made of substandard materials anyway, which would have led to the death of a person anyway?
That is, in either case, the person will die. It turns out that the only purpose of augmented reality is to motivate a person to go and wipe the camera lenses, and that's it.
But that didn't sound particularly intriguing then.
Anyone who comes out of the bunker can:
Be conscious and clean the lenses
Be deceived by the external environment and clean the lenses
Climb a hill and see a bunch of bunkers and think they've been tricked and run back
But in the end, everything was cleaned. And the 3rd option is the worst for bunker managers, but even it is advantageous because the lenses will still be cleaned by running back waving their arms. That's why they are shown a picture so that they spend their precious time on an illusion and they don't have enough time to run upstairs to see the bunkers, rethink their whole lives and run to signal to the camera that they are not alone here. There's not enough time for everything, especially since people come out who don't know what to expect and everything is new to them. So it takes a minute to create an illusion, a minute to clean, and a minute to run down the hill. Either a minute for the illusion, a minute to run to the hill, and a minute back to come back and clean the lenses to play charades. But there won't be enough time for everything, because the poisoned air through the "spoiled" suit will end the life of the person who left.
Nuclear weapons do not have such damaging factors that would survive after hundreds of years and kill a person instantly.
- the engine repair scene and the fall scene are just no comments, physics has left the chat.
- a villainous villain who has no point in hiding and pretending to be kind at all. No, seriously, where is the stopper, the counterweight that prevents the bunker from sliding into an open dictatorship? Why was this one-man theater necessary? It would be understandable if there were various groups in the bunker and the division of power by spheres of influence - then yes, scandals, intrigues, investigations are appropriate. If there were a system of checks and balances, a trick would be appropriate. But when you actually own all the power, you are the head of IT specialists, you removed the mayor and took his place, you crushed the lawyers, the judge trembles at the mere mention of your name - in this case, who do you play in front of? What prevents you from taking power into your own hands openly, if you already have it all? What are these public games for? Well, of course - to add to the audience's turn. But from the character's point of view, what is his motivation to stage a circus instead of a simple elegant power grab?
- what was the sacred meaning for George to jump down? Was he so sure that Juliette would unearth all the secrets on her own? If he was afraid of being tortured, why didn't he ask to go outside in front of witnesses? So at least there would be a chance to give Jules some information when saying goodbye. As it is, there is a feeling that they wanted to show off this twist and break Jules even more, but from George's point of view, the act is somewhat impulsive and uncharacteristic (I believe more that he would have haggled and tried to dodge to the last, rather than just suicide on the verge of discovering the biggest secret in life).
In general, it's kind of damp. Physics is lame in some places, logic and motivation are in some places, and in the middle the plot just slows down and slows down. It could have been better-and really gorgeous. And so - on 6/10, perhaps.
The mayor probably ran to contact other mayors, and Jules will probably come back through that very door, under water.
I wonder if I write that there were 48 bunkers (so, out of stupidity), will I end up in the category of spoilers or in the category of freaks who read books diagonally??😂😂
I mean, you're going to fall into some category anyway.🙂
There are no more comments, just emotions and a desire to review the "Shelter" more than once 👍
Now it's two years to wait for the film adaptation, it sucks
I didn't really understand the turn with Lucas, perhaps this is the main question after watching the episodes, initially he has a rather important role. In any case, I'll wait for the second season and see, after all, there aren't many science fiction series coming out these days.
It's been a long time since some kind of universe has dragged on.
The series is a solid 4-plus, we have to wait for the second season, I hope it will be even more interesting.
But I still don't understand why she survived.
I remembered how Charles "Chuck" McGill went out of his house to get a newspaper and then, in the legendary TV series (in my opinion) "Better call Saul." There, we knew that he had a phobia (fear of any kind of electricity). Here, I do not know why she was afraid to come out? Perhaps he was looking at it inattentively.
But why she hasn't come out all this time, I do not know. It doesn't seem to have been explained.
Spacesuits are certainly strange. Does it bother anyone that the places where the helmet and neck meet do not require any electrical tape? And on the hands, all the joints must be rewound.
I'm looking forward to the second season, a very good series.
Rebecca Ferguson managed to shoot in the 2nd season of "Shelter" even before the strike.
To continue to be!
Cut the crap
Ps; I hope the second season doesn't disappoint.
Thanks for the clarification.
PS:+ thank you for your reply
Among other things, I'm wondering who the three cleaners who came out long before Holston's wife. Did they volunteer themselves or were they kicked out? Did everyone go outside together? I haven't read a book.
I'm really looking forward to the sequel.
But there are still a couple of questions:
1. So why did they try to kill and kill Marnes' assistant, and accidentally the mayor along with him? That's naaafiiigaaa?
2. Why did the head of IT, being the most important, approve Nichols as sheriff, and then take her side in the conflict with Sims over planted evidence?
In general, yes, 1 and the last episode = watch. Skip the murk between them.
One of the most interesting series of the last year. So many riddles, so many questions that it's just oh and ah. It is clear that those who have read the books already know the ending)
What will happen to her next, where will she go, will she come back somehow, etc
. The series is very similar to Ascension.
I have always said that high-quality electrical tape is the key to the success of any repair 😅
I wonder how she'll get through to the other bunkers. Is it really possible to survive in the open world?
Wow, I haven't had so many questions yet))))
1. The ending of the bunker location confused me as an engineer. There, the descent circle itself is already the size of a excavation.
2. The generator has been running for 140 years and has never stopped. No engine has ever worked so much, even without so many blades. And then there's a whole blade engine, where only 1 blade is bent, and it's not clear how.
3. The pipes and the pipe system itself have long been rusted or simply worn out. Since the steam pressure that is supplied in it and the temperature eventually destroy the metal. And in the movie, they're not even painted with special paint. This means that the service life is doubled.
4. Where do they get their clothes from. For ten thousand people, so many clothes, for different tailoring. This is simply impossible. Considering the size of the bunker and the meticulousness of the designers to fit everything into a small space. They still live like barons.
5. Waste metal is thrown out every hour...Question...where does so much metal come from that they can produce it into parts and transform it? Even if you take into account the mines or smelting workshops. But every hour of the day, it is not possible to produce as much as they do. Even with 140 floors.
6. How easily a super hacker appeared who agreed to hack everything and everyone. Even that confused me. 3 minutes of screen time and immediately he hacks the hard drive. At the beginning of the film, even the main character and the main character of episode 1 were afraid to do this, but here is the "red-haired Ivanushka".
7. The division of floors has not been explained here. I realized that whoever is higher on the floor has a rank and a place in some kind of service organization. And who is lower....he digs into the engine, supplies everything with energy, but has absolutely no voice. It's kind of weird. The hierarchy is poorly represented, although when the female mayor came down, it was clear that the upper ones didn't care about the lower ones. If she was down there already 20 years ago. Just like in real life.
9. Based on what qualities the mayor or other people are chosen. Paint the benches and enlarge the food in the dining room. It's stupid. There is nothing to do there, the whole system is set up. And the Mayor is most likely created for a habitual understanding of government. In fact, it is not needed there. Here's the I.T. system, yes, they keep order. Even considering their stealth, this is the correct understanding of bunker survival. There should be no censures or guesses. But the strange thing is that there is no Religious theme here. that is, when a person is locked up or dreaming of something, he raises it into favor and creates an image of holiness. That is, the stars in the sky are heavenly angels or other system for creating fairy tales for children. To form a god system here later. But it just doesn't exist. And it's weird.
10. The bunker system itself. Due to the difficulty of creating such structures, they are always made compact. There will never be such a staircase. At most, it would go along the middle and already the branches went to the rooms. Any increase in size and complexity of the structure leads to an increase in cost and operating time. Even if you consider that there are 51 of them, as they say. Imagine how much money and time it takes to build them. Each bunker has its own drilling machine, it is not small. Plus supplies and boxes of apartments, all this is being built from the lower tiers. Of course, it is possible to accept this as the author's fantasy, but as practice shows, it is impossible to build such a thing in the specified amount.
The essence of the whole story can be expressed in one sentence: "Someone decided to destroy all of humanity, because it is too technologically advanced, and this can cause problems... but something went wrong in the end."
And he really got a kind of situation, but how would it be right now, yes for 100+ years ahead and without even answering basic natural questions on the go, how did it come to this. All these canned goods, computers, generators, light bulbs, gloves, syringes, toilet paper and so on. The author doesn't seem to care where it all comes from. It's all there, and that's what makes him dance like a constant. Well, licking with his rough tongue to some hypothetical IT, whatever the author understood by this word. But to the sad public from this very IT, for some reason, something like this comes to me, as the one who has been associated with IT since the last millennium - from this I just yell in my voice.
I would never have guessed) How many bunkers are there, my goodness? Dozens? And the city, as far as I understand, is abandoned.
And apparently there is no pact in the other bunkers, everything is different there. Maybe the "relics" are not destroyed in the neighboring bunker, but carefully stored. Or is there still a connection between the bunkers and a single system is maintained?
I probably can't wait for the second season, I'll read the books. It's too long to wait.
For the future, I've rerolled all the commenters with spoilers, but why do they spoil the viewing for others at all?
As a result, there will be no clues, only new questions will appear. Moreover, these questions will be from the field of "what the hell?"
It's like they said, "You know what... oh, I'll tell you next season."
I was hoping that everything would end with one season, but it's worth waiting for the second one.
The best TV series of 2023, I think)
I've already written that we have different tastes) but if it bothers you so much, roll the sausage))
There were moments where I even rewound. Cool done!
Well, as usual, the season ended at the most interesting place))
And Jules, in the same costume, didn't die.
I started watching because of Rebecca, but I liked the plot too. Of course, these 10 episodes could be combined into 5-6 episodes and cut some minor branches, I don't understand why you need to stretch the plot if you already have three books, in any case, I'm happy with what I've seen. The production of the series is simply excellent. Yes, there are still questions, some points are not very plausible, but I stopped finding fault with such things a long time ago. Of course, I would like the series to be released this year!
In general, the series is top! I'm really glad that I found out about him) We look forward to continuing)
The box would have caught up with her, and even overtaken her in this race
I liked everything in general, there's really nothing to complain about, and nothing to complain about.
A separate summary of Fergusson's game - it feels like the actress is imbued with her character and is giving her all.
In short, I'm really looking forward to season 2, so much so that I thought about reading books, but changed my mind so as not to bring down the anticipation.
- The moment when the lights were turned off, the picture switched, and people didn't even notice and didn't ask questions.
- Terribly prolonged moments with love that made you want to sleep
and to be honest, it's just unexpected. how did they figure it out before?...
how did Jules realize that the picture was also changed outside?...
I hope for a sequel, although I hardly believe in it.
and it's very interesting what happens next... I hope it won't be that far away...
The book is wonderful, the series was shot well, but alas, it's better to watch it first, and only then read it.
I thought maybe they were being poisoned with gas in the airlock, but the air was still habitable. Well, let's see. This tunnel under the water is also very interesting, it looks like she will return through it
The spacesuits of the previous people who were sent for cleaning were wrapped with poor quality tape. And Jules's spacesuit was wrapped with another adhesive tape, and thanks to this, the air from the surface did not get into the spacesuit. But rather, she doesn't have much time until the air in her spacesuit runs out.
We live in mortal time..
Is that why your age is interesting?
Disadvantages: the series cannot be called dynamic, especially the first episodes were very sluggish.
And why this green screen?
Plot for the sake of plot, so to speak.
But, of course, I'm going to watch another season. Suddenly it's just a field of bunkers, and then there's a normal city and life on the surface.
P.S. I haven't read any books.
And the screens are not with the actual picture, but with recordings/generated - for what?
Almost all episodes except the first, second and last were watched at 1.5-2x speeds
It seems to me that if you watch the first and last episodes, you won't lose much.
I haven't read the books, but I assumed there were several bunkers. I think they're connected by the passageways below, and Jules will come back to his own someday.
Interestingly, Sims is not aware of all the cases, but only parts of them. From a conversation with Jules in prison, it becomes clear that the gray-haired boss only thought he was aware of everything, but in fact he himself does not know a lot. Apart from the fact that there is really no life outside the bunker. I even felt the weight of his burden at the end...
That 's the twist 😲
But there are still a lot of questions: where are the rest of the bodies of those who came out before the sheriff and his wife? Why are they just the two of them lying there?
But I still didn't think that the image in the dining room was real.
The only thing that bothered me was that they were somehow very close to each other.... He's huge inside