s01e01 — Countdown

I saw information that the showrunners are the creators of the film adaptation of Game of Thrones. It's interesting to see how they can work with fiction.

I'm waiting for this series, and then maybe I'll take up the book ✨

I have very high expectations for some reason, purely because of the trailer... this is the first time this has happened at all)

The Chinese was great, let's see this one now :)

The first series of the cannon, carried in one breath. It's exciting from the first minute.

It looks interesting so far. It's a pretty good adaptation. But the numbers in the air look strange somehow)

Well, the first impression is wow. And of course the gorgeous Javadi.

Do you already have a translation or subtitles?

Last year's Chinese TV series, IMHO, the selection of Chinese actors was better, and the period at the Krasny Bereg base was more fully disclosed, if I hadn't read the novels and watched the Chinese version, I didn't understand much from this series, so we ran through the tops, I hope they will further reveal the plot more fully...

So my advice to you is to read at least the 1st book out of 3 before watching, otherwise you will not understand much...

Here is half of the caste from the sole proprietor))
And so, quite an intriguing beginning, we are moving on.

The first episode forced me to turn on the second and continue watching. It doesn't look cheap, which is already good. The Chinese TV series and cartoon did not attract attention at the time and did not force me to stop my gaze on this work, but it went well here. 🌚

The Chinese version is a cut above, even though there is a lot of water. It's still very much like this, with a ton of crap and in the "best" traditions of Netflix politics.

I've been flipping through the book the whole series to remember whether this character was there or not)
it's hard to say anything yet, but I probably expected something else anyway, I agree with the commentators above that the narration was quite messy and a lot of important things were omitted and as if the narration was simplified, which is possible and a plus for those who don't I read it

The whole episode started with the fact that Da Shi was called Clarence 🌚

The first episode is good. Javadi recognizable, not seen for a long time )

Несколько лет назад мне пересказали сюжет всех трёх книг, и чисто с рассказов зашло на 10/10. Потом стала ждать, пока забуду детали, чтобы самой прочитать трилогию. Когда узнала, что будет адаптация от создателей ИП, сразу появилась огромная надежда, что будет очередной качественный сериал (всё же Д&Д умеют хорошо снимать, когда у них есть исходный материал). С тех пор детали некогда рассказанного сюжета почти все забылись, и я долго думала, стоит ли начинать читать книги или дождаться адаптации хотя бы 1 сезона, и только потом всё прочитать.

Выбрала всё же второе и, надо сказать, мне, как не читавшему оригинал человеку, зашло прям на отлично)

Вкинули сразу несколько персонажей и интригу сезона (сериала?), для первой серии в самый раз, я считаю. Параллели временных линий тоже красиво показали, особенно в конце серии. К режиссёрской работе и музыкальному сопровождению вопросов нет, атмосфера в целом тоже хороша. После 1 серии сразу хочется и весь сезон дальше смотреть, и книги пойти читать.

Надеюсь, дальше будет не менее интересно. 👀

I didn't read the book, I didn't watch the Chinese TV series - the first episode from Netflix came in. I want to look further.

I read the first two books, watched the Chinese version of the series. It was the scientific nature of what was happening that caught on, and the Netflix version is like some kind of popcorn. The first series included almost half of the first book. The actions of the characters are not justified by anything. I'm not talking about castes at all. For the sake of the agenda, I changed everything.. It would be a shame if people who watched this version would think that Liu Qixin wrote some bullshit.

I read books (2 of 3)
And tried to master the Chinese TV series, which almost completely coincided with the book (it didn't go in, I quit). After all, the Asian type of thinking involves a strong digging into the details during the narration, which is why the dynamics are lost (well, kamon, you can't shoot 1 in 1 what was written in the book).

Therefore, do not hesitate, look, it was shot well and interestingly. At least the first episode hooked me. And the free interpretation of some events only adds to the interest.

Have a nice viewing to everyone!

You guys shouldn't do that) I was also a little confused and disappointed after the first episode. But then I just turned on the second one, and it went off — I watched it in one gulp until I fell asleep in the dead of night. Even the actors seemed to play better there. Perhaps there were some difficulties with entering the project at first, I don't know. I'm looking forward to watching the rest of the evening. Obviously, the book is cool, but I'm unlikely to read it now. Moreover, I have had the first one for a long time)

There is a feeling that the science series has been turned into another series about teenagers where love is in the leading places... who's messing with whom... who's who's ex... What for?
They try to follow the book, but they cut out a lot and add all sorts of rubbish.
For some reason, a lot of time is devoted to talking about God. The screenwriters are really focusing on this.
It is perceived for some reason so-so. Maybe it will get better in the future.

All science fiction has been thrown out of science fiction and everything is greatly simplified, apparently for the sake of increasing the audience. Thus, they deleted everything that attracted me in the book)
If we assume that the series was created based on a short retelling of the book and is aimed at a wider audience, then it is probably watchable. Let's see what happens next...

I'll say this, I've read all 3 books in the series, watched the entire Chinese film adaptation https://myshows.me/view/81629 / tried to watch it. They threw out all the science, changed all the characters, added half of the book, just threw out the rest, ran through the tops.
This is a "work" rather a short retelling of a drunk man in a bar who has already forgotten half and cannot remember the other half exactly because of intoxication. If you want to know what the author wrote about, watch the Chinese film adaptation of this one https://myshows.me/view/81629 / it covers the entire 1 book almost page by page, which is sometimes tedious, of course, but you will have no questions about the integrity of the work. Next, you can take the second book of the series to read, there is no film adaptation yet. There is an animated series based on the second book https://myshows.me/view/77232 / but he is also more likely to be motivated and with a bang.

This is the first time I've heard about this series, the Chinese series, and the books today. I decided to watch it because of the creators of Game of Thrones. The first episode is quite interesting, but little is clear)
Spoiler: it didn't get any clearer in the second one

...and with a shout "Physics does not exist!" Yang Dong jumped into the abyss.

The primitivization of the original managed to shake even in 3 + hours, here it is inferior to the Chinese series very much. It seems as if the scientific part in this version is set out for the dumb. And Wang Miao was replaced by this crowd, which is also not a plus. And in general, except that the E line was left more or less intact, adding only an Americanized view of events. On the positive side, the water is drained, which benefits the book, but in the line-by-line arrangement of the Chinese version of the series made it tedious for most modern viewers, adapted to watch only the fast format. Well, it's nice to look at Ace, she's kind of the frontman of the Miao split personality squad here.😁

Well..What can I say. Reading a book is one thing. Watching the adaptation is different. Two separate works that have a lot in common. It makes no sense to compare it with a book here. I will only touch on common points. The cultural Revolution is shown flatly, I would even say superficially. The viewer is not allowed to have time to understand what kind of trend was going on there around science. The opposition to revisionism is very dryly stated, well, they do not allow the viewer to feel this socio-scientific decline of Mao Zedong's reforms. At the same time, Ye Wenjie's storyline can be said to be carefully preserved, I would even say it shows all the most important things. Journalist, book, destruction of nature, mantou, Red Coast. In the Western storyline, a scientific stupor is played out, the characters are basically familiar, just shifted to a different way and kind. And I have some kind of stupid translation, apparently, since the obvious Da Shi is called differently. We look further. The Chinese series, although verbatim, is considered torture for the European audience to watch.

P.S. it's nice to see a lot of people in the comments who are familiar with either the books or the Chinese TV series.

This is probably the most interesting and beautiful series in a long time

It's straight out of the Netflix, but so far it seems more or less

The feeling is twofold - the main points were shown, but they were distorted in small things. The characters were introduced, but they are completely different, not like in the book. The scene was also changed. The scientific component is near zero, some beautiful pictures on the phone. Ye Wanjie's storyline was shown at a gallop (how she got to the base, and what caused her views on the world (actually, her main motive). The legendary detective Da Shi is just hanging pictures on the board here, beautifully, but pointlessly. The universe flickered for everyone like a faulty light bulb, although in the original it could only be noticed with the help of special equipment. If there is an intrigue, it is only due to the chaotic narrative in the style of "nothing is clear, but it is very interesting ".

Being a fan of the book, it still hurts me personally to look at Netflix's next attempts to make a series of chewing gum. Perhaps in the next episodes the situation will even out. The Chinese series was clearly based on the book. Yes, it is drawn out, yes it is very feigned, but without strong distortions and simplification of the plot.

One of the ideas of the book was to show how far modern China has gone from the time of the cultural revolution in terms of progress, humanity and legality, for example, the police and the authorities could not do anything with a group of conspiratorial scientists, even if they really wanted to, neither detain nor imprison.

What do we see in this film adaptation? The brutal cruelty and dictatorship of China and, as a contrast, the scientific progress and prosperity of the modern multicultural West.

This can no longer be attributed to simplification for the sake of timing.

Oh, it's some kind of cringe. Why such a strong gallop? For a person who has not watched the Chinese adaptation and has not read the books, this is too fast. I personally watched the Chinese version and started reading the book. The Chinese adaptation just doesn't compare to this one. There is so much devoted to science. Many things are even interesting, something new is being learned. The scene with the nanowires still doesn't let go. Netflix really seems to have made a version for the dumb. Even the characters themselves (the collective image of Wang Miao) look stupid, maybe they will introduce us to everyone a little further. I will watch it only for the sake of comparison and understanding where the season will end. The actors are chosen terribly, Ye Wanjie in the Chinese version is just a beauty, but here honestly sucks. Even Shi is not happy in this version.

An actress with plump lips looks completely out of place here:(

Wow, it's really interesting
There has been no excitement and interest from the series for a long time

In the spirit of Netflix, Negroes have changed the gender of the main character. For those who have read the book, it is painful to watch.
You'd better watch the Chinese 30-episode TV series, it's great.

I am anxiously awaiting the appearance of a transgender person.

Well, plus everything is crumpled up, a lot of details were missed

And of course castes..
this is a Chinese book about the Chinese. Netflix: the idea, let's replace the Chinese scientist with a plump-lipped white blonde!

How tired I am, it's the same thing every time: they shoot a series based on a book - stuffy in the comments: the books were better, it's not possible to watch.

Anyway, I'll say it another way - if I haven't read the book and haven't watched the Chinese series, then the variation from Netflix is healthy.

I just recommend that you watch the Chinese version later, it is attached to the book as much as possible and there are 30 episodes -- everything is really revealed correctly. In the Netflix version, everything is crumpled up and they made up a little bit of shit.

So far, I like everything. I have just read the book, it would not be interesting to watch the literal translation. I will be happy to see how the plot is reinterpreted. The trailer looks promising.
For those who haven't read it, it should be even more exciting due to the intrigue.

The first episode. It's shit so far. I will continue to choke on masochism.

It's like some kind of fantasy action movie from Marvel, so far I like everything!

Damn seril! I've been writing since the 4th episode and it's still a delight. There was no Black Mirror lying around

What was not clear in the trailers, what is so far now - why divide Wang Miao into two characters? Why add some kind of Ye Wenjie love line? It is clear that the series does not have to follow the book verbatim, but the characters were invented for a reason. But this is a strange and unclear move.

I liked the book, it's strong science fiction. Let's watch the series. Especially since Asa Gonzalez is filming here

I can't look at the authentic versions yet, it's clear that cranberries are designed for Western barbarians. Both the book and the Chinese TV series are full of restraint, but somehow everything is vulgar and rude.
But I'll try to get through the first episode, I think I'll get used to it, because I'm not Chinese either))

I've heard a lot about the book and the Chinese TV series. After learning that the version adapted for the Western viewer is coming out, while the Chinese series is not boring for many people, I decided not to get acquainted with them but to wait for this version.

The first episode was disappointing. Very strongly. Perhaps this is the effect of inflated expectations and I will try to look again, but there is nothing scientific in any dialogue, in any piece of the plot.

Let's start at least with the fact that science is just studying why an experiment differs from a previous theory. Any inconsistencies in which there are patterns are gold for any scientist. One can recall at least Milliken, who won the Nobel Prize for trying to refute Einstein's theories experimentally for many years.

That is, for many years a person received the wrong data and rebuilt the theory piece by piece until he was convinced that only one remained true.

And here "Oh, we have the wrong data, so we close all experiments". And we went to cut out. From the point of view of science, complete nonsense! After all, if an experiment can only give 1 option, then it is not needed.

I'll try to look further, maybe then the series will be revealed later. Or my expectations will come into harmony with what is happening.

I saw in the comments that a lot of people write that the series is boring. I don't know why they felt that way, but the first episode is very interesting and I really want to understand what is happening in this world.
Let's look further!)
I am no exception and also came when I found out that the creators of the series were also game of thrones.

Damn it, I knew it(
I knew that everything would be simplified to the kindergarten level, they would stuff Negroes and Lesbian women, but then the main actor went on, TWO WOMEN ahahaaah well, you can relax and watch calmly, with the book only the name and a couple more facts are common

I kept waiting for someone to say: "Physics does not exist! "

Classic netflix, Wang Miao became a woman and his roles were divided among several people. In general, this is a retelling of poor quality, of the 30 episodes of the Chinese adaptation there are 8 episodes, half were simply thrown out, the other half was simply crumpled up. There are too many actors from Game of Thrones + comedians here, I can't believe in the overall picture of fiction at all, again, the entire scientific and technical base was simply compressed to a virtual reality helmet a la golden underpants and this is what I was waiting for? Seriously?

According to the classics of such series:
Nothing is clear, but it is very interesting.

The intrigue was set, the characters were told about, the position of the investigator was shown. Very curious

Eternally irritated, rude colored, white jerks, teenage scientists with obscenities are not in the subject, in general, classics. Well, at least they're not shaming CERN, but they came up with an accelerator somewhere in Britain.

I have not read the book, I learned about the Chinese series only from the comments above. I really like everything, I perceive it as a separate work based on the motives of ".

Neither women nor Negroes infringe on me, but to whom they are directly annoying among scientists — I want to finish you off with the film Hidden Figures (2016), it is generally biographical! Representatives of LGBT+, by the way, up to the sixth series (I haven't got further yet) — adyn pieces, but a third-rate character and he is not visible with a partner. That statistically does not fit into 2024, but because of this, for some reason, no one is outraged.

I was making my way through the first episode a little bit. It resembles the arrival of a " on the vibe. But then the truth is more like Marvel in terms of dynamics, only instead of superheroes, scientists. Well, as far as the creators were able to make them so. There is an impression that these are ordinary people with ordinary problems, but passionate, loving their work. It's interesting to watch them, you empathize with them. Yes, not all geniuses, but everyone doesn't need to.

In general, I advise you to give the series a chance.

I haven't read a book, I was able to master only 5 episodes of the Chinese TV series. The same series is immediately addictive and intriguing, I want to keep watching further 🥹

In the first episode, only the line of the Cultural Revolution is good, and even then it's a stretch... otherwise, everything is very sad and the Chinese version, which was originally a C, is just 10 out of 10 compared to this difference. But I'll see what the netflix took next.

I haven't read the book, I haven't seen the Chinese 30-episode adaptation. On recommendation, I started watching, and already for 4 episodes. Definitely, the series is a cannon 👍

I don't want to offend anyone, the series is cool
But Gonzalez, with her model appearance, is not convincing in the role of chief scientific researcher, the whole series smelled of Hollywood because of her
Inspires unrealistic standards

I'm watching the Shogun and this one at the same time. The intensity has not yet been compared, the fairy tale is both there and here, but here again the inventions are incredible in type "Stay Alive"

Once I tried to read the first book, but I quickly gave up, it was very difficult to walk. And here it is served in an interesting and clear way.

I learned about the Chinese series and the book only from the comments (as usual, mostly continuous whining of the same spill as it used to be better) - the first series came in, I missed the dense fiction. By the way, by the way, for some reason I reminded you of the German Darkness)) I really like the cast, except Auggie - well, really " I don't believe ". I love beautiful women, but this one is too instagrammable

Physics in reality 👴🏻
physics in Netflix 👨🏿🧔♀️👳🏾♂️🧑

Complete bullshit. After reading (listening to) the book, even the first episode shows that it is complete nonsense.

I have watched only the 1st episode so far, without reading or watching the original works before. It's hard to say for sure, somewhere the plot seems banal (I've already seen it!") -- but it's Netflix, it's a normal reaction; it's not bad somewhere.
In general, the episode was not very intrigued, but I will continue watching - judging by the ratings of the episodes, it will be better from now on)

Advice to those who arrange holivars on the topic of what is better - calm down and find something better to do if there is nothing to do. Any film adaptations and remakes are, first of all, a way to earn a lot of money. I don't see anything wrong with them, because it's at least attracting a new audience; let's better hope together that young people will start reading good books after they like the film adaptations of them 😉

I didn't understand anything

The countdown was reminiscent of the recent Hellbound, also on Netflix.

I didn't understand anything, but it's very interesting

Ramin Javadi (composer) didn't bother with the soundtrack anymore. The theme is almost one-on-one like in the World of the Wild West, I recognized his handwriting from the first notes)

"And how many conversations there were ... " as they say. After the Chinese version of the series (which is closest to the book), it is simply impossible to watch it. Not only did they throw out almost everything, but they also changed the main characters to someone unknown. The very idea that physics does not exist is conveyed very sluggishly. The first episode should be of interest to the viewer, but they literally spit in his face, I don't really explain anything with crumpled pieces of narration. If I hadn't seen the Chinese adaptation, I might have continued to watch to figure out what they're trying to show us and what the hell is going on here.

Первое ощущение, что снимали те же люди, что снимали Чернобыль.

This is a very bad film adaptation. It was impossible to allow DJs to screen good books again so soon, it was impossible to give the film adaptation to Netflix, it was impossible to fit such a cool, interesting, thought-provoking book into 8 episodes!! Basically, you have to sift through some inclusions of the book, which were removed well, through a bunch of nonsense, garbage and husks. The narrative immediately flies, the detective in the first series was not even named, Wang Miao was split into several Persians. Scientists on the behavior of some irresponsible students who are not interested in what is happening with science, the Negro was smoking weed in general when his Salazar called him to look at the disco flashing of the universe...🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️😨 Some kind of showdown, who was messing with whom, talking about God, daughter E, it turns out she was a bore and none of her friends are particularly worried about the fact that she got drunk, a parody of Mike Evans comes to the funeral without a trace.
Only the opening scene of the first series was well shot, but then the feeling persisted that the creators seized the opportunity with gusto to thicken the colors and pile cranberries now on the theme of China. Of course, it was in the book, in the Chinese TV series it was shamefully hushed up, but here it was just savored, given how much less they redrawn the E branch in China.
And well, Samuel Tarly plays either Samuel Tarly or himself real, half of his lines caused bouts of fierce rage.

Great scientists risked their lives, gave their lives for the sake of discoveries and their ideas - the character Gonzalez, pissing off numbers that came from nowhere and it is unclear what will lead to, is ready to give up on her discoveries and opportunities to improve this world. She doesn't have the vibe of a scientist at all. I tell you right away I haven't read the books. And anyway, why don't they have a logical chain: scientists commit suicide, they are intimidated and forced to close projects that will change the world and possibly give a new breakthrough in science - it is logical that these are done by those to whom the progress of mankind is unprofitable.

Серия в общем очень понравилась, но непонятен посыл "неприятности" для науки того, что происходит что-то, ломающее её фундаментальные/устоявшиеся схемы. И сами ученые будто бы чуть ли не в трауре по этому поводу. Но случись такое в реальной жизни - это было время всеобщего ажиотажа! В этом и есть один из больших научных смыслов: хоть как-нибудь экспериментом сломать устоявшуюся концепцию и предложить что-то более глубокое новое.

The series is good. The first 3 episodes are interesting, fantastic and somewhat reminiscent of Arrival, but then, it seems to me, they were overloaded with sadness and despondency.
Don't expect a good mood.

I read books. I watched a Chinese TV series and animation. I liked Chinese very much. I love it when they shoot close to the plot. The regularity doesn't scare me at all. I never increase the playback speed. Everyone liked Chinese, there's nothing to complain about. Of course, people are now used to fast food everywhere, including TV shows. Of course, a lot of things come out, it's hard to spend so much time on one series. But for me, 30 episodes per season is a long-forgotten luxury and pleasure. I'm tired of TV series of 5-8 episodes per season, where it starts " galloping across Europe ". I'd rather put up with bad special effects and little-known actors, for the sake of saving money, which will add 1-2 more episodes. I didn't like the animation just because the second book is supposed to be, but in fact it was shot not based on it, but on ball lightning and generally mixed up.
Netflix has not impressed at all so far, although it is clear that you can make it there in 8 episodes. Is it dynamic? Yes. Is it beautiful with a licked picture? Yes. But let's add to this the wild leaps of the plot, the unreliability of the plot (after all, this is a film adaptation and was advertised as a film adaptation, not an original story on the topic). Well, in general, this "Western" approach. The Cultural Revolution is the only place close to the text, but here it is clear how Western capitalism will not cling to this bloody piece of history of communist China. And, of course, everything related to this will be filmed exclusively with Asian actors, we are for authenticity. But when you need to show the good guys, it will be people of all colors of the rainbow and genders, and not exclusively Chinese. The Chinese cannot work to save the world, God forbid they should be put in a good light now. Netflix is such a netflix. For the sake of curiosity, I'll look through the rest to form a complete opinion. But for now, the feeling of a simple chewing gum - I looked and forgot.